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Athens City Council - January 25, 2021
B
B
Hazardous
and
then
also
rick
wasserman
is
here
from
the
county
to
talk
about
the
land
bank.
So
first
we
have
david
riggs
from
the
code
enforcement
office,
he's
the
code
important
director
to
talk
about
condemnation
and
things
that
we
do
to
make
sure
that
places
are
healthy,
safe
in
the
city
of
athens.
Thank
you,
david.
Thank
you
for
coming
today.
C
Thanks
chris
and
thanks
everybody
for
giving
me
a
few
minutes
of
time,
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
share
my
screen
here,
I've
got
a
little
bit.
Can
everybody
see
that
yeah?
Okay
great?
So
this
is
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
complicated
process
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
go
through
it
with
you,
there's
blight
condemnation
and
then
demolition.
If
we
get
that
far
so
if
we
start
with
blight,
I
thought
the
best
thing
we
could
do
is
look
at
what
the
definition
of
blight
is.
C
I
can
get
there.
We
go
screen
to
work,
so
this
is
our
definition
of
city
in
the
city,
codified,
ordinances,
flight's,
condition
of
decays.
You
can
you
can
read
this,
I'm
going
to
read
it
to
you,
but
you'll
see
here
that
it
has
to
do
with
safety,
sanitation-
and
there
is
something
here
at
the
very
bottom-
a
significant
decrease
in
the
property
values,
including,
but
not
limited
to
graffiti
and
adjacent
properties.
C
C
So
I
thought,
maybe
I
could
go
with
through
a
few
things
here
of
what
I
think
triggers
the
blight
process
and
what
does
not.
So
obviously,
if
you
have
a
property
that
has
a
safety
or
fire
hazard,
whether
or
not
it
has
a
structure
on
it,
you
can
actually
have
a
blighted
property
that
doesn't
have
a
structure
on
it.
But
if
there's
a
fire
safety
hazard
that
that's
definitely
a
blight
could
be
a
blight
problem.
C
Excessive
loose
trash,
as
our
definition
in
title
29
says,
broken
or
dilapidated
fences,
unusable
appliance
or
automobile
parts,
unused
rugs,
rags
or
materials,
broken
and
dilapidated,
unusable
furniture
and
mattresses.
One
of
the
things
that
we
don't
think
triggers
a
blight
is,
if
you
have
multiple
vehicles
parked
in
the
driveway,
whether
or
not
they're
working.
It's
really
difficult
for
us
to
cons
to
have
that
considered
blight
and
that
comes
actually
from
us.
The
state,
codified
ordinances
or
the
state
regulations.
C
Is
that
gets
into
whether
you
know
what
some
people
think
is?
Is
a
problem
and
some
people,
don't
so
ugly
house
paint
furnishing
decorations,
those
really
don't
trigger
the
blight
process
and
neither
do
children's
toys,
bicycles,
playsets,
that
are
laying
around
the
front
yard.
They
may
look
bad
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
trigger
the
blight
process,
also
outdoor
storage
of
construction
materials
equipment,
although
that
is
time
limited.
C
And
so
here
we
go.
This
is
our
process.
So
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
have
a
code
officer
inspect
the
property?
Usually
because
we
get
a
complaint,
then
the
next
thing
we
do
is
we
notify
that
property
owner
that
there's
a
problem
or
if
we
found
those
you
go
back
to
the
you
know
what
those
conditions
are.
So
maybe
there's
a
lot
of
trash
in
the
yard
or
they've
got
a
a
swimming
pool.
That's
partially
working
and
partially
the
fence
is
partially
broken
down.
C
That
would
be
a
safety
hazard,
so
we'd
notify
them
and
request
that
they
comply
give
them.
Typically,
if
it's
a
first
offense
we'll
give
them
a
couple
of
weeks
and
then
we'll
go
back
and
we'll
reinspect
that
property
to
see
whether
or
not
they've
done
anything,
hopefully
just
that
presence
of
us
being
out
there
will
get
that
taken
care
of,
but
often
that
doesn't
happen.
So
we
would
then
prepare
and
send
out
a
notice
of
violation,
we'll
actually
physically
go
to
the
house
and
post
the
violation
on
the
door.
C
If
those
violations
still
aren't
addressed,
then
we
need
to
we'll
go
back
and
we'll
talk
to
the
law
director
and
let
them
know
that
we're
going
to
do
in
order
to
comply,
and
that
takes
another
15
days,
and
these
are
business
days
too.
So
it's
not!
It's
not
two
weeks,
it's
actually
three
weeks
for
this
after
that
wait
we'll
reinspect
the
property,
and
if
the
violations
aren't
addressed,
we
go
down
the
city,
prosecutor,
road
and
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
that
goes
with
that.
C
But
at
this
point
we
actually
get
into
the
legal
branch
and
the
you
know
the
defendant
go
to
the
judge.
We
end
up
going,
we'll
go
and
we'll
testify
and-
and
the
judge
will
actually
make
a
decision
on
that.
We
can
repeat
this
process
over
and
over
again
until
either
it
gets
corrected
or
until
they
say,
sell
or
dispose
of
the
property
in
some
other
way.
B
C
Think
those
we
think
of
those
as
health
hazards
right,
so
you
have
standing
water
and
mosquitoes
that
certainly
becomes
a
health
health
hazard
problem.
We
actually
work
with
the
health
department
in
those
cases,
if
you
have
gutters
that
aren't
working,
you
actually
end
up
eventually
with
a
with
a
structural
problem
on
the
building.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we
look
at,
not
just
that
it
looks
bad
up
there,
but
it'll
actually
you'll
actually
get
water
running
down
the
face
of
the
foundation
and
you
could
have
foundation
failure
or
rot
there.
C
E
C
Yeah,
it's
it's
it's
quite
a
bit,
so
it
has
to
be.
You
know
we
wouldn't
typically
do
this
and
go
through
this
whole
process
unless
we
really
think
there's
a
problem,
and
it's
typically
when
you
have,
you
know
a
structural,
a
structural
problem
or
a
real
safety
safety
issue
and
I'll
get
to
the
next
step
of
what
we
do
after
that
here,
in
just
a
minute
I
can
I
can.
I
can
follow
up
on
what
we
do
after
this
aaron.
F
C
The
then
I'd
say
probably
25
percent
of
the
time,
we'll
notice
something
going
on
and
75
percent
of
the
time.
Just
rough
numbers
it'll
be
complaint
based,
so
we
do
go
out
there
and
we
do
see
things,
but
more
often
we'll
actually
get
a
complaint
and
we'll
respond
to
that.
So
that's
that's.
How
we,
how
we
operate.
C
Anybody
else,
so
what
what
happens
if
we
go
through
this
process
and
and
you
can't
find
the
property
owner
or
the
property
owner
just
ignores
you
and
you
he
he
builds
up.
You
know
warrants
against
him.
Well,
we
would
actually,
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
safety
problem,
we'd
actually
go
to
the
next
step,
which
is
condemnation
and
we
have
in
our
code
under
the
same
title,
29
housing,
a
condemnation
piece
and
that's
when
a
structure
or
part
of
a
structure
is
unsafe
or
unfit
for
human
occupancy.
C
What
we
do
there
is
well
it's
real
similar.
We
inspect
the
property,
verify
whether
it's.
If
we
verify
that
it
is
unsafe
or
uninhabitable,
we
would
have
to
break
it
into
two
pieces.
If
it's
unoccupied,
we
notify
the
property.
If
it's
occupied
and
it's
unsafe,
the
tenants
need
to
be
removed
from
that
unsafe
condition
and
they
actually
our
code
says
that
they
need
to
be
removed
within
48
hours.
Now,
there's
a
couple
of
pieces
here:
one
would
be
whether
you're
it's
a
voluntary
inspection
or
whether
the
occupants
don't
want
you
there.
C
If
we
can,
if
we
think
that
there
is
an
unsafe
condition
where
we
have
people
living
in
a
in
a
structure
that
might
be
unsafe,
we
need
to
get
a
warrant
from
the
judge,
and
we'd
have
to
have
some
reasonable
cause
to
get
the
warrant,
and
then
the
judge
would
actually
decide.
We'd
have
to
have
the
police
come.
C
If
they
still
aren't
complying,
then
we
we
have
a
process
where
we
go
through
the
law
office,
prepare
a
affidavit
and
record
it
at
the
recorder's
office.
We'll
then
placard
the
structure,
that's
being
unsafe
and
that's
not
the
same.
You'll
see
these
placards
on
some
of
our
structures
that
were
that
are
going
through
the
condemnation
process
and
it'll
have
a
big
red
x
on
it.
That's
actually
a
placard
that
the
fire
department
puts
up
to
indicate
that
it's
unoccupied
and
it
might
be
unsafe
for
a
firefighter
to
go
inside.
C
C
That
placard
will
go
on
and
it
will
stay
on
until
the
until
the
structure
is
repaired.
So
the
this
would
be
like
a
foundation.
That's
failing
a
roof,
that's
failing
some,
some
really
significant
stuff.
So
we
can
go
through
this
condemnation
process
and
we
could
get
stuck
here
because
the
next
step
after
this,
if
the
homeowner,
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
really
uninhabitable,
unsafe
property
and
the
owner,
isn't
going
to
repair
it.
The
only
thing
we
can
do,
then
is
try
to
go
through
the
demolition
process.
C
C
G
Thank
you
and
thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
talking
with
us
this
evening.
I'm
just
curious
it.
It
sounds
pretty
good
that
tenants
would
be
removed
within
48
hours
if
it's
unsafe,
but
is
it
possible
that
those
that
it
had
been
unsafe
for
a
long
time
as
you
go
through
all
those
30
days
and
15
days,
and
would
those
tenants
be
unsafe.
C
C
It's
a
safety
problem
now
there's
some.
There
are
some
caveats
here
in
our
code,
so
I
don't
want
to
go
into
the
weeds
too
far.
But
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a
problem
that
the
tenants
created,
then
the
tenants
are
responsible
to
to
move
out
and
pay
for
the
move
out
and
everything.
If
it's
a
if
it's
an
issue
that
the
landlord
has
allowed
and
created,
then
the
landlord
is
responsible
to
move
those
tenants
and
and
find
a
place
for
them,
and
he
has
to
pay
for
that.
C
C
We
get
the
right
or
we
have
the
ability
to
declare
a
structure
unfit
for
human
occupation,
and
then
we
would
go
to
the
section
to
see
if
we,
if
it
can
be
repaired-
and
that
is
this
part
of
the
section.
So
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
condemn
a
structure
and
then
hire
an
appraiser
that
the
c
would
have
to
pay
for
to
get
a
a
cost
to
repair
find
the
ascent
also
see.
C
Then
we
have
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
calculation
and
see
if
the
repair
cost
is
more
than
100.
130
percent
of
the
appraised
value
or
the
auditor's
valuation,
and
if
it
is,
then
the
structure,
then
the
repair
that
structures
is
considered
by
the
city
to
be
unreasonable.
It's
not
worth
doing
you
put
more
money
into
the
property
than
you'll
ever
get
out
of
it.
C
If
that's
the
case,
then
we
can
follow
up
and
go
down
through
the
demolition,
get
cost
for
demolition
work,
get
a
contractor
out
there
and
deem
the
structure
to
be
demolished.
If
the.
If,
for
instance,
the
repair
costs
doesn't
exceed
130
percent
of
the
property
values
we're
stuck,
we
really
can't
do
anything
except
rare
cases
that
I
wouldn't
typically
recommend
that
we
would
go
to
eminent
domain.
That
would
be
the
next
step.
That's
people
do
that,
but
it's
it's
a
difficult
to
do
so.
C
I
really
hate
to
see
a
structure
demolished,
especially
some
of
these
old
beautiful
these.
If
we
could
find
anyway
and
that's
what
we
really
try
to
do
to
find
any
way
that
we
can
to
get
the
property
owner
to
either
sell
the
property
or
fix
it
up,
because
some
of
these
some
of
these
properties
are
really
beautiful,
just
hate
to
see
them
demolished.
C
There's
I
got
one
more
slide
here
and
then
I
could.
I
could
ask
entertain
questions
and
that
would
be
eminent
domain,
and
this
is
something
I'm
not
sure
we
would
ever
want
to
do,
but
it's
out
there
and
available
for
us.
This
is
through
the
ohio,
revised
code
and
it
actually
originally
comes
from
the
fifth
amendment
where,
where
the
government
can
take
properties,
you
can,
if
you,
if
you
follow
everything
right,
take
a
blighted,
parcel
and
take
it
by
eminent
domain.
B
C
That
that
that
I
don't
really
have
to
really
come
across,
that
would
be
something
we
wouldn't
typically
want
to
just
evict
them
and
make
them
make
them
leave
without
some
provisions.
We
don't
have
anything
in
our
city
code
that
would
follow
up
with
that,
but
I
know
there
are
some
not-for-profit
organizations
that
can
help
in
the
area.
We
would
probably
want
to
contact
them,
see
how
they
could
help
us.
Thank
you.
E
H
Not
necessarily
a
question
for
david,
but
it's
a
response
to
remember,
falls
question
that
there
are
programs
through
the
hawking
athens,
perry,
community
action
for
for
improvements.
There
are
diminishing
loans
as
well.
You
know,
as
long
as
someone
lives
there
for
a
certain
amount
of
time
that
it
essentially
is
forgiven
at
the
end
or
significantly
reduced.
H
C
C
Some
of
these
are
are
basically
wins.
You
know
we
had.
The
property
went
to
sale
and
somebody
bought
it
and
they're
trying
to
fix
it
up:
10,
10
and
10
12
cook.
I
wasn't
I
was
actually
involved
in
and
they
voluntarily
the
owners
voluntarily
demolished
the
structures
and
now
they're
for
sale.
So
that
might
be
a
really
good.
They
were.
I
think
they
were
residential
structures
in
a
business
zone.
So
that's
be.
That's
that's
a
basically,
I
think
a
win
for
us
other
subs
nine
atlantic
has
a
structural
problem.
C
There
are
some
owners
that
are
working
on
repairs,
so
we
were
moving
down
the
demolition
condemnation
process.
Somebody
bought
it
and
they're
trying
to
fix
it
up,
so
we're
keeping
that
the
orange
ones
we're
kind
of
keeping
on
the
radar
hoping
that
they
will
get
them
repaired
and
fixed
back
up
and
then,
of
course,
the
yellow
ones.
Here
are
the
ones
that
are
still
open
that
we're
working
on
38
brown,
probably
the
next
one.
C
C
11
atlantic
they're
they're
slowly
working
on
that,
but
they
are
making
some
progress
so
we're
doing
okay
there
there
could
be
more,
we
would
add
on
here
and
if
you
have
any
properties
that
you
think
would
need
to
be
in
either
the
blight
or
the
condemnation
category.
Please
let
the
office
know
and
we'll
we'll
certainly
take
a
look
at
them
and
see
what
we
can
see
we
can
get
accomplished
thanks
for
your
time.
If
anybody
has
any
questions.
F
C
D
C
Yeah
there's
it
is
a
it
is
a
a
process.
You'll
have
to
you,
get
the.
If
you're
going
to
condemnation
and
demolition
you
have
to
get
the
appraiser
to
come
in,
you
might
have
to
go
to
the
judge
to
get
a
warrant
multiple
times
to
have
that
done.
That
all
takes
time
to
do
much
better.
If
you
can
get
the
owners
to
either
sell
or
fix
the
property
up.
That's
that's
the
cheapest
easiest,
quickest
way
for
us
to
get
improvements.
F
C
They
they
have
been.
That
doesn't
mean
that
that's
that's
where
they'll
always
be,
but
that's
that's
an
older
part
of
town,
the
you
know,
the
east,
the
near
east
side
is
probably
newer,
someone
this
is
one
of
the
older
older
parts
of
town
and
then
just
some
people
will
buy
property
and
just
won't
fix
it
up.
So
you
end
up
with
with
property
owners
that
are
that
are
like
that.
I
B
B
If
there
is,
you
know,
there
are
a
whole
lot
of
other
things
that
happens
with
with
bad
housing.
So
I
think
that
it's
really
important
that
people
understand
and
that
they
have
a
lot
of
choices
as
a
homeowner
to
be
able
to
work
with
you.
If
there's
problems-
and
I
think
that's
a
really
important
thing
to
let
people
know.
B
C
B
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
now
we
have
rick
walterman,
who
is
the
athens
county
treasurer
and
one
of
one
of
the
pro
projects
programs
that
I've
really
appreciated
for
athens
county
is
the
land
bank,
which
was
started
by
bill
bias
when
he
was
treasurer
very
forward
thinking,
and
I
liked
to
think
of
that
as
bill's
help
for
the
county
and
rick.
When
you
came
on
board
with
your
candidacy
and
you're
winning
has
made
it
into
an
even
bigger
project
and
program.
J
J
So
I'm
going
to
give
you
like
the
quickest
five-minute
overview
of
of
what
we
do
and
the
differences
between
how
a
code
enforcement
approaches,
dilapidation
and
delinquency
and
and
how
the
land
bank
does
and
then
talk
just
a
little
bit
at
the
end
about
ways
in
which
we
can
work
together.
So
land
bank,
officially
known
as
the
athens
county
land
reutilization
corporation,
was
incorporated
by
the
county
commissioners
and
the
treasurer
in
2018,
and
we
were
pretty
late
to
the
game.
J
Most
of
the
other
counties,
I've
known
in
the
state
hadlem
bank
for
a
couple
years
by
that
point,
there
are
some
very
interesting
nuances
about
how
land
banks
work,
but
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
those.
I
want
to
leave
you
with
one
main
thought.
As
regards
the
land
bank,
a
land
bank
is
a
tool
to
address
properties
that
no
longer
have
value.
J
J
So
the
reason
the
land
bank
does
not
do
a
lot
of
work
in
the
city
of
athens
is
that
you
virtually
never
have
a
parcel
in
the
city
of
athens
that
has
no
value
left,
so
the
negative
value
concept
is
really
important.
I
mentioned
that
the
land
bank
has
some
special
powers
when
we
get
involved
with
a
parcel.
J
We
can
reset
the
taxes
and
the
assessments
to
zero
assessments
are
a
huge
deal
in
other
parts
of
the
county,
where
you
have
sewer
systems
that
were
installed
with
federal
government
money
and
the
sewer
system
is
required
to
send
a
bill
every
single
month
to
that
parcel,
whether
someone's
living
there
or
not,
very
often
in
trimble
township,
and
we
foreclose
on
a
parcel,
there's
twelve
thousand
dollars
in
delinquent
taxes
and
fully
sixty
or
seventy
percent
of
it
is
fewer
peace.
So
we
have
the
ability,
then,
to
you
know
to
get
rid
of
that.
J
We
also
have
numerous
other
things
under
the
law
that
help
us
do
our
job.
So
the
difference
between
what
a
code
office
does
with
condemnation
and
what
the
land
bank
does
in
the
first
part.
I
realized
that
it
looked
like
that
condemnation
process
was
really
long,
but
that's
actually
pretty
fast
action
compared
to
a
foreclosure.
J
You
know,
that's
really
so
a
land
bank
property
has
to
be
both
tax,
delinquent
and
abandoned
and
abandoned
does
not
mean
the
same
thing
as
vacant
abandoned
means.
There's
no
owner.
There's
nobody
left
really
taking
care
of
it.
Nobody
doing
anything
with
this
property.
It's
not
just
nobody's
lived
there
for
the
last
three
months,
so
it
has
to
be
both
tax,
delinquent
and
abandoned,
and
a
lot
like
how
the
irs
got
out
the
bone.
J
Tax
delinquency
is
how
the
land
bank
gets
properties,
we
go
in
and
we
file
a
tax
foreclosure
case
and
we
go
in
and
we
are
able
to
get
the
property
in
that
way.
The
other
big
difference
between
condemnation
and
how
the
code
office
has
to
go
about
things
and
what
we
do
at
the
county
level
is
condemnation,
can
remediate
the
immediate
hazard
you
can
board
the
building
up.
You
can
get
the
tenants
out.
You
can
do
the
things
that
you
have
to
do
to
make
it
a
safe
and
secure
situation
for
the
neighborhood.
J
But
condemnation
does
not
change
the
ownership
situation
of
the
building,
so
you
might
have
a
building
that's
sitting
there.
Now
it's
boarded
up,
nobody
can
go
in
it,
but
it's
still
sitting
there
and
nobody
can
go
and
change
that
situation
in
order
to
change
ownership
there
either
has
to
be
a
sale
or
a
foreclosure,
and
so
that's
like
one
of
the
things
I
spend
most
of
my
time
on
is
managing
foreclosure
cases.
I
have
probably
60
or
70
people
in
any
one
time.
Most
of
them
are
land
bank
cases.
J
Most
of
them
are
situations
of
abandoned
properties
where
there
hasn't
been
an
owner
for
10
years
or
more
nobody's
paid
property
taxes
on
it.
It's
just
sitting
there
completely
delinquent.
Steve
knows
a
lot
about
this.
I
didn't
mention.
The
land
bank
is
not
a
governmental
organization.
It's
a
private
nonprofit
that
was
started
by
the
commissioners.
J
We
have
a
board
of
five
people,
all
of
whom
are
elected
officials,
two
county
commissioners,
myself,
the
mayor
of
the
largest
city
in
the
county,
which
is
steve
and
a
township
trustee
in
our
case,
greg
andrews
from
out
in
waterloo,
township
and
the
land
bank
runs
basically
like
a
non-profit.
We
have
a
public
meeting
every
month.
We
do
our
business
in
the
open.
Now
we
do
it
by
zoom.
J
We
used
to
do
it
by
you,
know,
meeting
live,
but
that
was
so
long
ago,
and
we
we
make
decisions
every
month
about
how
we're
going
to
handle
individual
situations,
individual
properties.
So
what
do
we
do
within
the
city
of
athens
as
the
land
bank?
Not
much?
There
isn't
much
that
the
land
bank
can
help
you
with
in
the
city
of
athens.
J
Unless
we
find
a
property
that
just
simply
has
no
value
anymore
but
as
treasurer,
I
can
work
with
the
code
director
and
I
would
love
to
to
address
certain
situations
like,
for
instance,
the
ones
that
are
going
on
with
mr
novak
on
the
west
side.
So
I
currently
have
the
properties
on
north
lancaster.
On
my
foreclosure
list,
I've
been
waiting
for
quite
a
while
for
the
prosecutor
to
file
foreclosure
there
zach
who's
now
going
on
to
become
judge,
was
pretty
busy
the
last
six
or
eight
months
that
he
was
there.
J
The
new
guy
who
took
his
place
is
really
starting
to
focus
in
on
this
stuff
and
I'm
hoping
to
get
those
cases
into
court
within
the
next
three
or
four
months.
Once
that
happens,
we
can
then
bring
them
eventually
to
a
sheriff's
deal.
The
reason
why
we
would
do
that
instead
of
taking
it
through
the
land
bank,
is
that
once
the
property
goes
to
the
land
bank,
the
taxes
are
gone
and
we
never
have
any
hope
of
recouping
any
of
that
money.
That's
out.
J
So,
in
the
case
of
the
north,
lancaster
properties,
you've
got
property
taxes.
You
also
got
nine
grand
owed
to
the
city
for
demoing
that
one
house,
and
certainly
we
would
like
to
recoup
that
money.
If
we
can,
we
want
the
school
district
to
get
their
share.
35
cents
of
every
tax
dollar
that's
paid
in
property.
Taxes
goes
to
the
county,
to
support
9-1-1
and
the
senior
citizen
programs
and
all
the
stuff
the
county
does
about
six
or
seven
percent
goes
to
the
city.
So
we
want
to
recoup
that
money.
J
If
we
can
so
taking
a
property
through
the
land
bank
essentially
means
kissing
that
money
to
buy,
and
I'm
pretty
reluctant
to
do
that
if
I
believe
the
property
would
sell
at
a
sale,
so
my
hope,
with
the
north
lancaster
properties
in
particular,
is
it
will
get
a
foreclosure
foreclosure
squashes
any
other
liens.
Then
it
goes
to
a
sheriff's
sale.
Somebody
comes
along
and
buys
it
and
part
of
the
minimum
bid
on
that
sheriff's
sale
is
all
that
taxes
and
all
those
assessments
that
might
be
owed
on
it.
That's
the
main
thing.
J
J
We
had
sold
liens
on
that
property
a
number
of
years
ago
and
I
pushed
them
very
hard
to
get
that
to
a
sale
so
that
the
ownership
could
change
there,
because
the
previous
owner
was
just
not
going
to
fix
that
situation
up
and
same
thing
with
with
any
other
properties.
In
the
city,
there
was
a
property
on
brown
avenue
that
we
had
a
foreclosure
on
that
was
owned
by
tom
debeck.
J
J
J
G
At
thank
you
so
much
treasurer
wasserman
for
coming
and
and
sharing
this
information.
This
evening
I
was
wondering
when
you
were
defining
an
abandoned
property.
You
said
that
the
way
that
the
land
bank
considers
a
property
to
be
abandoned,
as
if
is,
if
you
can't
find
the
owner,
but
what
if
people
are
living
there?
How
does
that
affect
the
process
and
what
kind
of
rights
do
the
tenants
have.
J
B
F
Yeah
thanks
so
much
for
being
here
really
informative
answered
a
lot
of
my
questions.
The
presentation
didn't
made
me
think
of
another
one
though
so
we
have
this
a
lot
of
formal
opportunities
to
intervene,
tax
delinquency
or
visible
dilapidation.
That
would
allow
us
to
step
in
or
or
force
us
as
a
government
to
step
in.
But
then
we
enter
this
place.
F
C
Did
yeah
council
member
schmidly
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
look
at
is
there
there
is
you're
right
there's
this
balance
between
property
owner
rights
and
the
rights
of
the
community,
and
this
it's
a
balancing
act
for
us
to
try
to
to
try
to
to
figure
out
what
makes
the
most
sense.
We
do
have
people
that
don't
like
their
neighbor
or
they
think
their
neighbor
is
a
slob
and
they
want
them
to
fix
up
their
property.
J
J
You
can
play
cat
mouse
with
a
property
owner
for
years
trying
to
get
places
that
are
essentially
waste
dumps
cleaned
up
and
if
you
don't
have
code,
it's
just
so
much
more
difficult,
because
I
foreclosure
is
a
really
blunt
instrument
and
it's
almost
the
only
instrument
that
my
office
wields.
But
a
code
office
can
do
a
lot
of
things.
And
you
know:
we've
really
encouraged
other
parts
of
the
county
to
look
into
instituting
a
code
office
or
strengthening
the
code
offs.
B
D
D
The
land
bank
does
look
for
an
end
user
for
the
property,
and
so
you
know
please
correct
me
if
I'm,
if
I'm
wrong
on
anything
here,
but
the
you
know,
the
goal
is
hopefully
that
you
have
somebody
an
adjacent
property
owner
or
something
like
that.
That
will
come
in
and
absorb
the
costs
of
the
of
say
the
demolition
or
the
re
rehabilitation
of
the
property.
J
For
so
where
we
had
two
really
nasty
abandoned
houses
through
the
generosity
and
the
goodwill
of
an
end
user,
we're
going
to
get
you
know
a
brand
new
house
and
get
that
property
cleaned
up
so
yeah.
It
happens
all
the
time,
I'm
always
looking
to
make
deals
with
people
who
can
do
some
good
for
the
community
at
the
same
time
acquiring
a
property
at
a
really
really
steep
discount.
J
In
many
cases
yeah
I
mean
the
individual
has
to
be
out
there.
I
mean
there
are
some
properties
that
are
so
difficult
that
you
know
we'll
probably
never
be
able
to
sell
them,
and
there
are
some
properties
we
don't
want
to
sell
because
they
may
be
in
flood
zones
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
in
general
I
would
agree
with
you
yeah,
okay,.
B
And
and
when
you
mention
flood,
you
know
floodways
and
flood
zones.
There
are
other
programs
that
have
been
used,
especially
in
nelsonville,
to
buy
houses
that
are
continually
flooded
so
and
tear
them
down
and
keep
it
from
ever
being
built
again
and
that's
one
way.
That's
another
program
that
people
have
the
tool
of
to
be
able
to
use
for,
especially
for
repeated
hazardous
areas,
so
yeah.
B
So
thank
you
other
questions,
yeah
great
well,
thank
you
david
and
rick.
It's
been
very
educational.
I
love
it.
So
I
think,
maybe
in
the
next
time
we
should
have
the
water
purification
and
sewage
people
on
in
the
future
talk
about
our
lovely
sewage
system.
No,
I
think
it's
important.
So
look
for
that.
Maybe
a
couple
so
next
on
the
agenda
is
a
special
right-of-way
permit,
that's
over
in
the
university
estates.
B
They
would
like
to
put
a
guard
house
on
that
median
have
and
it's
in
the
right
of
way.
So
I
don't
see
anybody
here
from
that,
which
is
unfortunate,
because
I
added
some
questions.
All
the
paperwork
has
been
signed.
It's
no
problem.
They
used
to
have
a
gazebo
there.
I
think
at
one
point
kind
of
in
that
median,
and
I
was
just
wondering
why
a
guard
house
card
guard
hatch.
Thank
you,
steve.
H
You're
welcome,
councilmember
fall
it
it.
It
had
been
a
guard
house
before
it
was
pretty
much
taken
out
of
commission
by
an
errant
driver
that
went
right
through
it
or
at
least
significantly
damaged
the
the
guard
house
or
guard
shack.
There
was
also
a
gazebo
you're,
not
incorrect
on
that,
but
the
gazebo
was
further
up
the
boulevard
in
the
median,
but
no
this
is,
as
you
had
indicated.
This
is
in
the
public
right-of-way,
it's
just
as
you
pull
into
university
boulevard
and
it
was,
the
foundation
is
still
there.
H
B
Why?
Well
because
I
was
looking
at
a
guard
house
and
like
whether
it's
going
to
become
a
gated
community
which
would
be
odd
because,
there's
all
those
you
know
public
infrastructure
up
there.
So
that
answered
my
question.
Thank
you,
steve.
Any
other
questions
on
that
everybody's
signed
off
on
it.
Jeff.
E
E
I
could
see
that
if
that
was
a
situation
that
would
start
backing
traffic
up
onto
682
people
trying
to
get
in
but
being
not
being
able
to
get
past
the
guard
house,
for
whatever
reason,
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
wrapping
my
head
around
this.
What
I
mean
is
it
going
to
have
a
machine
gun
or
something
what.
H
I
assure
you
councilmember
reisner,
that
it
isn't
going
to
have
a
machine
gun
nest
or
anything
of
the
sort.
It
was
a
simple
six
or
eight
by
eight
laugh
structure
that
sat
there.
It
had
windows
in
it.
It
was
just
that,
but
it
was
simply
to
to
protect
and
keep
out
of
the
elements,
some
utilities
that
are
inside
there,
those
still
exist.
H
H
B
B
I
A
It
was
it
sylvain
is
saying
it
was
not
a
usable
guard
house,
as
steve
said
it
really
only
held
the
utilities
decorative
only
so
it's
yeah
it's
aesthetic,
but
I
must
admit
I
had
the
same
questions
as
council
member
fall
and
reisner.
Is
this
a
guard
house
to
keep
people?
You
know
out
slow
traffic
traffic
calming,
but
it
sounds
more
like
yeah,
it's
a
utility
cover.
B
A
K
K
K
It's
a
gentleman
who's
transferring
from
a
union
to
a
non-union
job,
and
the
discussion
with
the
city
administration
was
that
the
27
dollars
put
them.
I
believe
I
don't
know
if
the
mayor
wants
to
speak
to
this,
but
put
them
at
the
at
the
proper
place.
I
think
it
may
have
been
a
dollar
raise
a
slight
raise
from
what
they
were
receiving
earlier,
but
there
were
different
benefits
in
the
union
package.
Maybe
that
were
covered
mayor
patterson.
H
K
Good
question
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
other
council
members
or
committee.
Okay.
Moving
on
another
item
we
have
under
staffing
levels
for
next
week
is
to
fix
an
error
in
our
2021
staffing
ordinance.
We
have
the
mixture
wrong
for
the
program
specialist
in
the
city,
rec,
arts
parks
and
recreation.
K
G
K
G
K
Those
are
excellent
questions
in
the
past.
Remember
cloudflutter.
It's
been
a
lot
of
vehicles
and
vehicles
that
are
past
their
prime
but
I've.
Actually,
I
assume
the
city
puts
out
some
sort
of
announcement
that
these
auctions
are
are
going
on,
but
I
am
remember
fall.
Are
you
shaking
your
head?
Yes,
I
can't
tell.
B
K
K
K
Any
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee
or
other
members,
okay,
see
none.
The
second
item
is
authorization
to
pay
the
december
invoice
for
athens,
hawking
recycling
services
for
their
waste
and
recycling
services,
and
this
obviously
is
a
december
bill
that
we
need
to
authorize
to
pay
in
the
amount
of
141
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars.
K
Sorry,
the
request
to
suspend
the
rules
and
pass
an
emergency
was
put
into
the
hopper
when
it
was
sent
to
me,
so
I
assume
that
they
would
that
they
are
supporting
this.
I
believe
it's
a
regular
invoice,
so
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
suspending
and
paying
it,
but
would
anyone
else
like
to
reply
to
that.
E
Well,
I
I
you
usually
suspend
when
when
we're
when
we
have
not
yet
or
when
we
have
failed
to
pay
a
debt
or
that
there
is
an
emergency
to
pay
something,
you
know
a
break
in
the
line
somewhere
and
we
had
to
bring
in
an
emergency
crew
from
outside
and
they
want
paid
okay,
but
for
the
recycling
center.
I
I
don't
see
the
emergency
there
other
than
the
fact.
Yes,
I
I
would
like
to
get
paid
in
a
hurry.
E
I
understand
that,
but
on
the
other
hand,
council
does
have
rules
and
protocols
for
passing
ordinances
and
so
on,
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
suspensions
here,
the
last
few
weeks
and
it's
almost
becoming
a
habit.
I
think
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
rein
it
in
a
little
bit.
That's
my
concern
here
so
unless
I
really
see
a
good
reason
that
it
would
have
to
be
suspended,
I
just
don't
see
the
need
to
suspend
it.
A
I
think
I
think
what
might
be
helpful
is
to
check
with
the
auditor
on
it,
because
we
don't
usually
move
forward
on
these
recommendations
unless
they're,
you
know
requesting
to
suspend
the
other
thing.
I'd
say
in
favor
of
ahrc
in
this
particular
case,
is
that
it's
a
local
nonprofit
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
work
with
for
our
trash,
and
I
I
hear
you
council,
member
risen.
Are
we
suspended
a
lot
yeah
last
few
weeks?
But
you
know
it
is.
I
K
A
H
It
was
a
prior
year
bill,
and
this
was
one
of
those
issues
to
where,
when
we
were
budgeting,
we
did
not
budget
for
this,
because
I
personally
didn't
know
that
that
we
actually
owed
this.
It
was
a
it's
a
complicated
story
without
getting
into
the
weeds
on
it,
but
it
was
for
that
senior
housing
study
that
there
were
three
entities
partnering
together
to
get
that
study.
The
city's
portion
was
two
thousand
two
hundred
dollars,
I
believe,
or
in
that
that
ballpark-
and
so
that's
what
this
is
again.
H
K
K
We,
there
are
funds
that
are
outside
the
general
funds
for
administrative
services.
These
are
these.
Are
appropriations
similar
to
what
we've
done
for
internal
services
and
there
is
a
whole
series
of
these
appropriations
from
you
know
two
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
one
dollars
up
to
a
hundred
and
forty
one
thousand
eight
hundred
fifty
three
dollars.