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Athens City Council - September 13, 2021
A
I
will
be
hearing
from
all
four
committees,
plus
at
the
end
of
the
committee
of
the
whole,
which
will
include
all
council
members
way.
This
will
work
is
that
when
a
committee
is
called
to
session,
the
members
of
that
committee
will
remain
up
here
on
the
diocese.
A
Those
other
members
will
sit
down
at
the
table
on
my
on
my
left
so
starting
out
with
finance
and
personnel
committee.
These
members
are
sam
crowell,
as
chair
jeff
reisner
vice
chair,
which
is
myself
and
aaron
smedley.
So
as
soon
as
everyone
gets
settled
in
we
turned
over
to
councilmember
crowl.
C
B
Our
first
agenda
item
is
enterprise
fleet
management.
The
city
administration
would
like
to
discuss
with
council
giving
the
service
safety
director
authorization
to
enter
into
a
contract,
to
perhaps
lease
vehicles
as
an
alternative
to
the
city
purchasing
vehicles,
and
I
believe
we
have
some
guests
tonight,
mr
baldwin
and
miss
ross
from
enterprise
for
a
presentation.
Thank
you
for
joining
us.
D
By
far
the
coolest
intro
I've
seen
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
city
council
meetings
and
that's
you
guys
got
it
going
on.
That's
pretty
good,
that's
pretty
good!
So,
really
briefly,
before
I
jump
into
it,
I
got
a
powerpoint
to
walk
through
one.
It
helps
some
visual
persons
helps
kind
of
see
what
we're
talking
about.
But
two
like
I
got
adhd,
so
squirrel
happens
every
now
and
then
so
it
helps
me
keep
on
keep
on
track,
but
we
are
divisional
rental.
D
Car
company
we've
been
doing
business,
actually,
leasing
to
entities
commercial
primarily
since
1957
in
2000
time
frame.
The
city
of
chicago
was
the
very
first
government
entity
that
reached
out
to
us
and
said:
hey.
You
do
business
with
a
lot
of
our
contractors.
We
have
no
money.
Can
you
help
us
out
and
that
really
spurred
the
government
realm?
We
are
still
a
privately
held
company,
so
we
move
across
the
country.
We
do
very
things
very
conservatively,
so
we've
only
been
in
ohio
for
about
nine.
D
Ten
years
now
we
have
over
60
or
so
government
agencies
in
the
state
of
ohio
and
growing,
because
the
it's
a
really
big
benefit
for
both
parties
to
have
a
partnership.
One
of
the
things
we
work
on
is
really
helping.
You
figure
out
what
is
the
right
life
cycle
to
run
a
vehicle,
because
today,
you're
spending,
you
know
x
on
your
fleet?
It's?
How
do
we
implement
your
budget?
D
Your
initiative,
your
green
initiatives,
to
really
get
you
to
where
you
want
to
be
for
a
fleet
so,
instead
of
running
a
20
year
old
vehicle,
let's
get
you
to
something,
that's
running
two
or
three
times
the
fuel
efficiency,
let's
improve
image,
and
we
can
do
everything
from
your
small,
smart
car
up
to
your
33,
000,
gbw
truck
and
everything
in
between
so
we'll
jump
into
it.
Here,
like
I
mentioned,
we
have
over
60
or
so
government
entities
as
customers
and
growing.
These
are
some
of
the
local
cities
that
we
have.
D
We
are
part
of
these
three
purchasing
co-ops
nationwide
purchasing
co-ops
on
the
bottom
source.
Well,
which
used
to
be
called
njpa.
We've
been
the
preferred
fleet
vendor
for
them.
For
about
six
years,
tips
taps
is
like
one
of
their
competitors
again
they're.
All
free
we've
been
there
for
about
nine
years
and
e
is
mostly
on
the
on
the
education
institute.
So
university
or
sorry,
university
of
athens
is
partnering
with
us
here,
so
one
of
my
counterparts
is
walking
through
the
exact
same
conversation
that
we're
having
with
them
at
the
same
time.
D
So
one
of
the
benefits
is:
is
that
it's
enterprise
we
buy
over
a
million
vehicles
a
year,
so
that
means
we've
got
to
sell
a
million
vehicles
a
year.
But
when
you
buy
a
million
vehicles
a
year,
you
get
great
incentives
and
you
run
it
for
that
short
time.
That
means
you
can
sell
that
vehicle
for
the
same
or
just
a
little
less
than
what
you
paid
for
the
vehicle.
D
Conversely,
you
as
a
government
entity,
you
get
such
great
incentives
and
you
drive
generally
low
miles
compared
to
retail
public
that
you
guys
can
do
the
exact
same
thing.
The
issue
is
coming
into.
How
am
I
going
to
sell
30
vehicles
a
year,
I'm
just
throwing
that
number
out
here.
We
haven't
got
some
analysis
yet,
but
how
are
you
going
to
sell
30
vehicles
a
year?
That's
like
someone's
full-time
job.
D
Now
you
become
a
used
car
salesman,
and
can
you
do
it
as
well
as
enterprise,
so
we
are
the
best
in
the
world
at
selling
vehicles,
because
when
you
offload
a
million,
you
want
to
make
money
on
those,
so
we're
really
implementing
the
same
time
frame
and
what
we
do.
If
you
look
at
it
here,
is
we
look
at
each
vehicle
individually
and
we
want
to
manage
each
vehicle
on?
How
is
it
up
fit?
What
is
its
utilization
to
identify?
D
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
look
at
each
vehicle
and
figure
out.
How
do
we
shrink
that
cost?
Essentially,
we
plug
you
into
our
rental
car
model,
how
we're
managing
all
our
1.6
million
vehicles
globally
and
you
guys
get
the
same
infrastructure.
It's
actually
managed
all
by
amanda
over
here,
so
she's,
your
long-term
client
strategy
manager,
I
go
out
and
I
help
to
start
the
partnership
start.
D
The
plan
and
amanda
meets
with
our
clients
two
to
four
times
out
of
the
year,
to
really
make
sure
everything
that
we
talked
about
still
meets
the
plan,
the
budget
everything
going
forward.
So
it's
a
very
fluid,
flexible,
ongoing
consultation
because
we're
not
a
dealership,
we're
not
here,
just
to
sell
your
vehicles
and
see
an
x
amount
of
time.
It's
a
hey!
This
is
what
vehicle
makes
sense
this
year,
maybe
it'll
change
next
year.
Some
internal
charter
changes.
Okay.
How
can
we
be
flexible
to
what
those
changes
are?
D
D
D
So
if
you
guys
have
probably
been
aware
every
time
you
buy
a
vehicle
and
as
soon
as
you
title
it,
it
loses
25
of
this
value
right
away.
Well,
because
you
buy
so
well,
your
incentive
is
taking
that
depreciation
hit
right
away
for
you.
So
what
that
means
is
you're
really
in
a
break
even
position
essentially
day
one.
That
means
you
could
buy,
that
vehicle,
run
it
a
year
or
less
and
sell
it
for
the
same
or
more
than
what
you
paid
for
it.
D
D
If
we
cut
your
life
cycle
in
half
to
five
years,
you
know
you're
doing
less
maintenance,
half
of
maintenance
and
twenty
five
thousand
miles
you're
picking
up
a
little
better
resale,
which
is
great
maintenance,
cost
decrease
better
fuel
economy
on
the
newer
vehicle,
so
your
capital
outlay
is
less
and
then
again
we
plug
you
into
what
are
we
doing
on
the
rental
car
side,
with
these
trucks
or
cars
or
suvs?
What
have
you
so
in
this
scenario?
D
You
could
run
this
vehicle,
and
this
is
what
we're
doing
on
the
rental
side
and
with
our
other
government
entities
running
these
vehicles
for
two
years
selling
it
with
10
000
miles
for
more
than
what
you
paid
for
it
or
last
year,
selling
it
for
one
year,
five
thousand
miles
for
a
few
thousand
dollars
more
than
what
you
paid
for
it.
A
real
world
example
is
what
we
did
with
amanda
as
a
client
strategy
manager
for
city
of
sharonville,
one
of
both
of
our
customers.
D
A
couple
years
ago
we
got
nine
f-250
crew
cabs
for
them.
For
the
public
works
department,
they
cost
thirty
three
thousand
dollars
a
piece
we
are
estimating
at
the
end
of
three
years,
they're
going
to
be
worth
about
thirty
five
thousand
well,
based
on
what
we
look
at
all
the
con
ongoing
consultations
that
we
do.
We
ended
up,
saying:
hey:
let's
get
rid
of
those
vehicles
in
two
years
instead
of
three,
because
it
makes
more
sense,
resale
wise.
D
We
ended
up
selling
those
vehicles
back
in
june
for
about
forty
two
to
forty
five
thousand
dollars
a
piece.
So
essentially
they
got
paid
four
hundred
dollars
per
month
to
run
that
vehicle
for
two
years.
D
So
that's
the
program
that
we're
looking
to
implement,
not
saying
it
happens
all
the
time,
but
that's
what
we're
doing
on
the
rental
car
side
and
because
you
guys
buy
so
well
and
do
low
miles
you
guys
get
to
piggyback
off
of
that
same
thing.
Now
again,
this
isn't
going
to
work
for
all
vehicles
or
anything
like
that.
But
that's
how
we
look
at
it.
So
there's
sedans
on
our
different
life
cycle
than
their
pickup
trucks,
then
their
green
vehicles.
D
All
of
that,
but
those
are
the
types
of
analysis
that
we
do,
because
it's
all
about
decreasing
the
money
you're
spending
today
you're
spending
it
without
us.
How
do
we
work
together
to
spend
less
to
show
more
savings
that
you
could
use
elsewhere
in
your
city,
like
parks
or
hire
people?
Or
what
may
have
you
any
questions
so
far?.
D
Correct
correct
so
we'll
talk
about
disposal
here,
a
little
bit,
we
hand
sell
all
our
vehicles,
but
we'll
just
jump
into
the
open
end,
at
least
because
that's
really
what
a
lot
of
people
want
to
know.
How
does
this
work
right?
So
we
do
what's
called
an
open-ended
lease,
so
it's
not
your
dealership
style
lease,
there's
no
miles
restrictions,
there's
no
wear
and
tear
penalties.
D
What
we'll
do
is
we'll
have
you
pay
from
thirty
thousand
dollars
down
to
fifteen
thousand
over
five
years,
so
fifteen
grand
over
five
years
or
roughly
three
thousand
a
year
when
that
vehicle
sells
for
twenty
thousand
dollars,
you
get
the
difference
between
the
20
and
the
15.,
so
it's
essentially
you're
just
paying
for
a
little
more
than
what
you
use
instead
of
financing
the
whole
thing,
because
if
you
finance
the
whole
thing
to
zero,
you
get
20
000
back.
That's
a
waste
of
you
know
all
your
money
just
to
get
it
back
in
five
years.
D
So
it's
just
a
better
way
of
financing.
It's
really
a
cash
flow
tool,
so
you
can
outfit
these
vehicles.
However,
you
want,
you
know,
they're
your
vehicles,
you
can
put
all
you
know:
police
cruisers
equipment
on
their
dump
equipment
on
their
strobes
on
there.
What
have
you
you
need
to
use?
We
will
and
coordinate
that
install
they're
your
vehicles,
logo
on
all
of
that.
D
So
we
know
that
these
vehicles
are
going
to
come
back
with
a
cracked
windshield
they're,
going
to
come
back
with
dents
and
dings,
probably
stains
on
this
inside
holes.
Tears
they're
a
tool
for
business,
so
we
hand
sell
these
vehicles
via
to
local
dealerships.
We
have
over.
I
know,
300
or
close
to
300
in
central
southwest
ohio,
that
my
region
takes
care
of,
and
cleveland
has
some
up
north
as
well
as
pittsburgh.
West
virginia.
So
your
market
of
resale
increases.
D
D
D
D
You
average
miles
is
about
6,
100.
aaa
says:
retail
is
about
13
000
miles
a
year,
so
you
guys
are
a
little
less
than
half
of
what
retail
miles
is.
So
again.
If
we
look
at
that
resale
value,
piece,
you're
not
really
doing
much
mileage
on
the
vehicle
which
increases
resale
you're,
not
really
doing
much
operational
expense.
D
You're
only
doing
two
oil
changes
in
the
tire
rotation
in
a
year
right,
so
it's
kind
of
we're
looking
at
that
shorter
life
cycle,
if
you
run
that
vehicle
five
years
to
thirty
thousand
miles
you've
done
five
times
two
ten
oil
changes,
five
tire
rotations
and
that's
it
right,
so
your
maintenance
cost
decreases
significantly
because
running
a
vehicle
sixty
to
seventy
percent
of
its
life.
If
you
run
it,
10
plus
years
is
going
to
be
the
cost
of
operational
maintenance
fuel
downtime.
D
D
That's
over
10
years
old
or
over
100
000
miles,
essentially
the
worst
of
the
worst
ones
that
are
getting
terrible
fuel
economy
that
are
probably
nickel
and
dime
in
you
or
people,
don't
want
to
drive
because
it's
shocks
are
very
bouncy,
it
doesn't
have
updated
safety
features
or
maybe
it
just
doesn't
look
good
again.
Those
are
things
that
people
tell
us
so
doing
that
out
there.
So
in
that
first
year
that's
39
of
your
vehicles,
so
essentially
51
of
your
fleets
over
10
years
old
or
over
100
000
miles
year.
Two
is
eight
years.
D
Eighty
thousand
your
three
six
sixty
four
four,
so
you
can
see
we're
going
to
replace
your
entire
fleet
over
the
next
five
years
and
then
we
identify
is
there
anything,
that's
not
being
used
and
you
had
one
vehicle
that
was
driven
less
than
200
miles
a
year,
some
hybrids
sedan.
I
think
it
was
the
a
nissan
leaf
or
something
like
that
that
no
one
wanted
to
drive-
or
I
don't
know,
but
we
identified
that
again
as
we
talk
through
tom
with
andy
work
through
that
any
questions
so
far,
okay.
So
now
what
does
that?
D
D
The
annual
needs
right
underneath
fleet
fleet
mix
is
you
guys,
are
getting
about
six
vehicles
a
year
and
those
six
vehicles
are
costing
you
about
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
using
your
maintenance
data,
you're
spending
about
a
hundred
and
three
thousand
hundred
and
four
rulers.
Roundup
fuel
based
off
10
miles
per
gallon
and
250
gallons
about
116
000,
so
your
fleet
budgets,
roughly
400
000
a
year
for
these
76
vehicles.
D
So
what
we
look
at
is
year
one
we're
going
to
replace
those
39
vehicles
for
252
000.
That's
really
open
at
least
make
sense
right,
because,
if
you're
going
to
replace
39
vehicles
with
cash,
that's
1.2
million
dollars
of
cash
you'd
have
to
come
out
with
39
at
30
000
average
times
40
vehicles,
1.2
million.
D
D
We
know
that
if
you
go
from
a
10
year
old
ford,
taurus,
that's
getting
18
miles
per
gallon
to
a
brand
new
chevy
malibu,
for
instance,
you're
getting
33
you're,
almost
doubling
the
fuel
economy
or
if
you
go
to
a
hyundai,
sonata
blue
you're,
going
to
get
50
miles
per
gallon,
but
because
we're
not
sure
what
vehicles
you
guys
are
going
to
choose.
We
just
won't
go
with
a
conservative
assumption
on
fuel
economy,
you're
going
to
see
at
least
three
miles
per
gallon
across
the
board
on
all
of
these.
D
So
then,
you
see
year
one
that
net
cash
savings
about
148
000.
So
the
reason
we
want
to
show
you
that
it's
a
10-year
plan
is
we
want
to
show
you
that's
long-term,
sustainable
again
we're
not
a
dealership,
we're
not
here
to
sell.
You
vehicles
see
you
again
in
five
years
adios
that
sort
of
thing
we
want
to
show
you
that's
a
long
term
plan
that
we're
going
to
ongoing
consultation.
D
So,
as
you
add
more
vehicles,
your
lease
column
goes
up
because
you're
adding
more
vehicles
to
it,
but
the
next
two
columns
you're
going
to
start
seeing
that
you're
going
to
start
seeing
better
equity
from
your
existing
fleet.
Newer
vehicles
sell
better
and
then
we're
going
to
start
implementing
those
shorter
life
cycles
and
you're
going
to
start
seeing
equity
back
from
your
leased
vehicles
from
enterprise.
D
The
other
piece
is
that
your
maintenance
cost
is
going
to
go
down
and
essentially
become
fixed
because
again,
if
you're
doing
two
oil
changes
entire
rotation
a
year,
all
right
outside
of
that,
it's
going
to
be
some
freak
accident
right.
So
really
living
in
that
preventive
maintenance
world
that
rental
car
model,
your
fuel
economy
is
essentially
going
to
become
fixed
because
every
model
year
is
going
to
have
the
best
fuel
economy.
D
I
don't
know
if
it's
still
going
to
happen
if
kovid
put
a
hole
on
this,
but
by
2025
all
half
ton
vehicles
and
smaller
or
pickup
trucks
we're
supposed
to
be
at
an
average
of
30
and
a
half
miles
per
gallon
by
2025
and
all
sedans
suvs.
Minivans
are
supposed
to
be
an
average
of
54.5
miles
per
gallon
by
2025..
D
D
So
by
getting
to
that
shorter
cycle,
that's
your
initial
green
initiative
right,
getting
rid
of
your
10
year
old,
12
year
old
vehicles
that
aren't
getting
very
good
fuel
economy
to
your
brand
new
ones.
You
just
go
gas
to
gas
you're,
doubling
it.
If
you
go
gas
to
hybrid
you're,
almost
tripling
your
fuel
economy.
D
So
over
10
years
we're
estimating
about
477
000
of
savings.
For
you
guys,
and
then
we
want
to
step
further
to
say
what.
If
we
implemented
a
one
year
cycle,
assuming
that
the
pickup
truck
market
stays
strong,
which
we're
seeing
it's
going
to
next
year
and
the
year
after
and
probably
next
year
year
after,
because
you're
now
taking
advantage
of
better
resale.
Because
the
market's
strong
we're
looking
at
about
a
752
thousand
dollars
to
savings
over
10
years.
D
This
analysis
takes
in
a
like
for
like
vehicle
too.
So
if
you
were
driving
a
full-size
sedan,
we
just
put
in
a
full-size
sedan.
You
drive
a
pickup
truck
pickup
truck,
so
it
just
did
light
for,
like
I
met
with
tom
and
all
the
directors,
and
we
actually
walked
through
and
picked
out
which
vehicles
can
be
hybrids
and
we
want
that
route.
So
we
know
that
the
fuel
economy
savings
is
just
going
to
be
better,
but
we're
a
conservative
company
and
we
rather
show
you
hey
at
worst.
D
A
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
I'll
give
you
until
7
30
to
get
everything
done.
E
Quick
question:
yes:
is
there
a
fee
associated
with
going
into
partnership
with
yeah.
D
Maybe
I'll
get
to
that
yeah
yeah.
So
it's
a
great
question.
A
lot
of
things
come
up
at
this
point,
as
this
sounds
great.
How
do
you
make
your
money
right?
A
lot
of
people
are
probably
wondering
that
so
whoever
sells
you
a
vehicle
less
or
a
dealership.
That
manufacturer
pays
that
entity
three
percent
of
the
msrp
price
of
the
vehicle.
D
So
it's
a
30
000
vehicle
us,
your
local
hyundai
dealership,
it's
900
bucks.
So
whoever
sells
you
that
vehicle,
because
all
dealerships
are
franchised
that
manufacturer
says
hey
here,
you
go
so
that's
one
way.
We
make
our
money,
two
we're
the
bank.
So
if
you
do
an
open-ended
lease
versus
paying
cash,
we
are
the
bank
and
our
interest
rate's
around
three
percent,
so
we're
pretty
low
and
then
the
other
piece
is
we
have
our
management
fee,
which
is
usually
about
one-tenth
of
one
percent
of
the
price
of
the
vehicle.
D
So
thirty
thousand
dollar
vehicle
thirty
bucks
a
month
and
that's
only
on
vehicles,
we
get
for
you,
so
we
don't
really
make
a
ton
of
money
per
vehicle.
We
look
at
that.
We
do
a
great
job,
consulting
running
analysis,
showing
you,
the
right
life
cycle
that
you
continue
to
get
vehicles
from
us.
So
we're
again
we're
not
a
dealer,
we're
a
long-term
partner.
D
F
F
Tv
audience
can
hear
you
yep,
I
will
meet
with
our
partners
and
I
am
the
strategic
person
so
we're
looking
at
your
fleet
looking
at
the
one-year
flip
with
the
pickup
trucks,
as
jeremy
mentioned,
with
city
of
sharonville,
I
helped
them
with
the
analysis,
and
I
think
you
were
a
little
off.
We
made
them
48
000
on
the
back
end
with
those
vehicles
when
we
sold
them
and
they
bought
them
at
33..
So
more
of
your
long-term
relationship
with
you
guys,
if
you
were
to
partner
with
us.
G
D
So
then
we
we
look
at
again
annually.
These
three
meetings
a
year
january
february,
is
when
we
do
a
year-over-year
report:
hey
here's
what
you
spent
last
year,
here's
what
you
spent
this
year
with
us,
it's
kind
of
like
hey,
where,
where
areas
of
opportunity,
how
well
are
we
tracking
monitoring
your
fleet
spending
money
in
the
summer
year?
Right
when
you
start
budgets
is
when
we
start
our
fleet
analysis
meeting
for
the
next
year?
That's
perfect
timing!
So
that's
that's!
D
When
the
new
model
year
comes
out,
the
new
pricing
comes
out,
so
we
can
really
work
with
you
on
the
budgets
for
the
next
year
and
then
at
the
toward
the
end
of
the
year
is
when
we
really
start
doing
the
meeting
of
where
are
we
is
the
plan
we
still
have
in
place
still
good.
Do
we
need
to
make
changes,
because
again
you
can
get
the
other
beauty
of
this?
Is
you
can
get
in
and
out
of
vehicles
at
any
time,
you're
not
stuck
with
us
for
any
time.
D
So
if
you
get
that
vehicle
six
months
later,
you're
like
amanda,
you
stink
boot
us
to
the
curb,
not
saying
that's
going
to
happen.
It
doesn't
just
saying
you
can
turn
those
vehicles
in
and
walk
away
at
any
time,
it's
just
where's
the
vehicle
sold
to
what
it
sells
for
or
where
you've
paid
it
down
to
to
what
sells
for
in
the
market.
That's
the
only
thing
you're
ever
really
on
the
hook
for
and
because
you're
a
government
entity
and
you
get
such
great
incentives
you're
generally
out
of
breakeven
within
six
months
at
all.
D
So,
city
of
logan
we're
doing
two
tesla
police
cruisers
for
them
working
with
city
of
huber
heights
and
getting
them
some
sonata
hybrids,
malink
corporation
in
cincinnati.
We
do
all
priuses
for
them
it's
becoming
more
and
more
common,
also
working
on
relationships
with
the
brandon
andrew
and
rachel
over
at
clean
fuels.
Ohio
because
we
have
very
similar
mindset,
so
yeah
we
can
get
you
we're
not
tied
to
the
state
bid.
So
we
can
get
you
any
make
and
model
so.
B
B
D
Very
different
are
the
numbers
very
different.
It
depends.
Usually
a
hybrid
might
cost
you
a
thousand
dollars
more
a
year.
So
it's
not
it's
not
crazy,
and
it
just
depends
it's
on
the
resale
piece,
because
a
lot
of
hybrids
are
now
becoming
like
cell
phones,
where
there's
a
new
model
every
year.
So
you've
really
got
to
look
at.
What's
that
resale
factor
going
to
be
on
the
back
end,
where
you
guys
are
hybrid
versus
electric,
makes
more
sense,
just
the
electric
infrastructure,
just
generally
isn't
a
big
pole
for
all
of
it
out
here.
D
Just
yet
it's
coming,
I
would
suggest
you
know.
If
I
was
me
here,
I'd
suggest
hyundai,
because
you've
got
the
dealership
here
for
warranty.
They
have
the
kona
hybrid,
they
have
the
sonata
hybrid,
they
have
the
tucson
hybrid,
great,
reliable
vehicles,
and
if
there's
a
warranty
issue,
you
don't
have
to
drive
very
far
forward.
E
D
D
Exactly
yeah,
it's
you
know
each
year,
so
we
can't
force
you
one
vehicle.
We
just
show
you
here's
all
the
sedans,
here's!
What's
the
cheapest
cost
per
mile,
the
most
expensive,
which
one
do
you
want
to
go
with,
so
we're
not
again
we're
not
tied
to
anybody,
and
but
I'll
tell
you.
If
you
say
I
want
a
sprinter
van
I'll,
tell
you
you
probably
shouldn't
do
a
sprinter,
van
or
high
maintenance
numbers,
but
ultimately
it's
your
decision.
What
you
want
to
do
we're
not
we're
brand
agnostic.
D
E
And
just
one
quick
question:
you
may
have
said
this
already:
how
many
years
have
you
have
you
been
working
with
municipalities.
D
I
D
So
yeah
so
great
question,
so
we
don't
buy
vehicles
from
a
local
dealer.
A
lot
we
go
straight
to
the
manufacturer,
so
we'll
go
to
ford
or
ram
and
say:
hey
city
of
athens
needs
this
many
23
quarter
tons
this
many
one
tons,
we'll
order
them
they'll
come
in
in
six
six,
twelve
six
to
seven
months
and
then
you'll
get
them
that
way.
So
we
don't
if
we
minimize
as
little
as
possible,
buying
from
a
dealer
lock,
because
it's
usually
about
two
thousand
dollars
more
expensive
yep.
It's
actually
a
question.
G
D
Is
a
lot
it's
an
act.
It's
impacting
everybody!
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
privy
to
is
because
we
have
everyone,
a
manufacturer,
rep
from
every
entity
in
our
office
in
st
louis.
We
know
which
vehicles
are
still
available
to
get
and
we
want
to
be
work
with
our
customers
be
more
proactive
than
reactive.
So
we're
telling
everybody.
If
you
want
some
of
these
vehicles,
you
need
to
order
these
vehicles
by
november,
otherwise
you're
probably
not
going
to
get
any
next
year,
and
that
goes
across
the
board.
That's
hybrids!
That's
electrics!
That's
everything!
D
Try
to
order
before
before
november,
because
the
factory
order
cut-offs
it's
just
coming
faster
and
faster.
Where
they're
saying
no,
we
can't
produce
anymore
toyotas
out
for
this
year.
They
pretty
much
told
us,
no
camrys,
no
highlanders,
no
tundras,
no
tacomas
okay,
so
they
just
did
so
and
then
ford
just
told
us
last
week
or
a
month
ago
we
no
longer
we're
no
longer
taking
any
truck
orders.
So
it's
just
just
how
it
is
they
people
order
them
and
then
they're
gone
and
then
that's
it.
J
Just
one
last
question
I
was
wondering,
and
what
percentage
of
the
time
do
cities
not
end
up
making
money
at
the
end
of
a
cycle.
D
So
it
depends
on
the
vehicle
right.
I
would
say
that
where
city
make
money-
and
I
would
say
it's
probably
ten
percent
of
the
time-
because
ultimately
it
comes
down
to
what
is
the
best
tool
of
vehicle
right
and
what
is
your
initiatives?
Hybrid
vehicles?
You
want
to
run
usually
four
to
five
years,
I
would
say
just
thinking
seeing
the
hypers
that
I've
done
before
they're
a
little
more
expensive
up
front
resale
value
is
just
not
there
at
three
dollars
a
gallon.
Now
we
go
to
six
dollars
a
gallon.
It's
reverse
right!
D
So
that's
the
other
piece
is
the
the
fuel
economy
and
when
gas
is
low,
people
don't
care.
So
much
generally
about
green
initiatives
when
gas
is
high
sedans.
So
that's
the
other
beauty
of
this
program
is
that
if
we,
whatever
vehicle,
we
look,
we
forecast
out
18
months.
We
see
that
the
market's
changing
we're
going
to
have
those
conversations
like
hey.
We
need
to
get
ahead
of
this.
Let's
take
advantage
before
the
resale
market
tanks
and
get
you
into
something
else.
Thanks
for
your
question,
yeah.
B
K
Andy,
I
don't
have
questions
comments
you
know
for
if
you're,
if
you're,
through
with
your
presentation,.
K
Okay,
so
I
think
jeremy
ingratiated
himself
to
this
body
at
the
beginning
of
his
presentation,
by
referring
to
the
university
of
athens
rather
than
ohio
university,
I'm
sure
they
probably
wouldn't
be
too
happy
about
that,
but
we
certainly
are
yeah.
K
I've
never
heard
that
one
before
yeah,
that's
great
absolutely
so
we
are
a
member
of
source
well
and,
and
this
body
signed
up
to
be
a
member
of
source.
Well,
I
think
last
year,
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
went
direct
here
with
enterprise.
I've
listened
to
about
four
pitches
over
the
time
that
I've
been
with
the
city
of
athens
about
hey.
K
We
got
a
great
deal
for
you
if
you
would
just
lease
your
fleet
instead
of
instead
of
buy
outright
and
I've
never
brought
one
of
those
pitch
men
to
this
body
because
it
hasn't
been
a
good
deal.
It
really
isn't.
It
was
a
good
deal
for
the
dealer
that
was
making
the
pitch.
It
was
not
a
good
deal
for
the
city
of
athens.
This
is
the
first
time
that
I've,
you
know,
felt
confident
enough
in
the
business
model.
K
To
say
this
makes
sense
for
us
to
do
a
leasing
arrangement
rather
than
a
than
just
a
straight
up,
purchase
and
owning
arrangement
for
for
vehicles,
and
it's
because
of
what
jeremy
just
explained.
This
will
be
a
paradigm
shift
in
our
in
how
we
think
about
our
budget
with
costs
moving
from
tc
500s
to
tc
300s.
K
You
know
over
over
a
longer
period
of
time,
but
I
do
think
that
you
know
we
ought
to
be
able
to
demonstrate
what
that
savings
is
it'll,
just
be
something
that
when
you
pass
a
budget
you
say:
oh
yeah,
that's
significantly
more
in
tc
300
than
there
was
last
year.
Well,
it's
because
we're
not
going
to
have
that
complete
replacement
cost
in
the
in
the
capital
outlay.
Then,
for
for
that
thing,
and.
K
Maintenance
to
do,
but
it
was
because
we
had
more
computer
oversight
and
maintenance
and
network
management
to
do
as
it
became
a
much
larger
part
of
what
we
do
and
so
for
recent
years
we've
you
know,
we've
really
been
fairly
understaffed
for
the
size
of
fleet
that
we
have
with
those
mechanics,
and
we
don't
see
us
replacing
them
anytime
soon.
K
B
Thank
you,
mr
stone.
So,
just
to
repeat,
we
are
looking
at
authorizing
mr
stone
to
enter
into
a
contract
for
this
fleet
management.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
today.
I
Thank
you
so,
with
the
specific.
I
Right
away,
are
we
specific
if
we
authorize
entering
into
this
the
agreement?
Is
that,
like
that's
the
specific
plan,
or
is
that
still
being
worked
out
in
terms
of
which
vehicles
and
what
the
timeline
is
for
replacing.
K
It
it
will
not
be
I
mean
that's
the
the
business.
You
know,
that's
the
arrangement
that
they
had,
but
this
plan
go
forward
just
to
enter
into
the
lease,
but
then
we'll
we'll
get
into
the
details
about
which
ones
and
then
I'll
bring
forward.
Okay,
it'll
be
this
37
or
this
you
know
30
or
what
have
you
that
are
the
ones
that
will
start
for
the
first
year.
Okay,
yeah.
I
I
just
wondered
about
like
how
specific
the
agreement
correct.
D
C
D
Is
just
that
you
want
to
partner
with
enterprise,
you
could
sign
that
and
never
do
business
with
us.
Each
con
each
vehicle
has
its
own
contract.
So
that's
the
the
that
starts
everything
so
like
you
could
sign
the
agreements.
Lisa's
already
actually
looked
at
it
and
approved
it
went
through
all
that
legal
stuff
and
approved
it
gave
her
a
blessing.
So
you
guys
could
sign
that,
but
never
do
anything
with
us.
So
each
vehicle
you
have
to
prove
each
vehicle.
E
Thanks
for
that
additional
context,
I
didn't
think
about
the
staff
that
impacted
the
staff,
so
it's
good
to
know
that
they'll
still
be
adequate
work
for
it
for
at
least
some
period
of
time
for
the
pool
we
have
on
staff
right
now.
Where
have
we
traditionally
purchased
our
vehicles.
K
In
that's
a
great
question,
it's
kind
of
across
the
board.
In
most
cases,
we
go
with
the
with
the
state
bid,
which
is
a
department
of
administrative
services,
basically
pre
pre-pre-bid
contract,
where
they
identify
different
dealers
and
different
dealers
will
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
bid
mid-size
pickup
trucks
and
whichever
dealer
gets.
It
is
the
one
that
that
that
we
end
up
selecting
off
of
so
you
know
occasionally
when
we
bought
used
vehicles
in
the
past-
and
we
have
you
know
things
under
fifty
thousand
dollars.
K
We
will
come
and
buy
from
dealers
here
in
town,
but
in
almost
all
cases
for
a
new
vehicle,
we'll
go
out
for
that
state.
Cooperative,
purchasing
agreement
through
the
department
of
administrative
services,
which
is
which
is
not
unlike
what
they're
already
doing,
and
they
just
do
it
at
a
much
larger
scale.
Thank
you.
H
H
You
know
we
will
be
looking
really
long
and
hard
at
not
just
hybrids
but
as
evs
electric
vehicles,
because
the
low
mileage
that
we
do
have
and
the
current
charging
capacity
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
now
we'd
have
to
grow
it
a
little
bit,
but
most
of
the
charging
takes
place
at
the
service
garage
or
at
the
where
the
vehicles
are
stored
overnight.
We
have
that
access
already.
H
A
Eisner
speaking
of
the
green
fleet,
we
have
a
standing
ordinance
that
authorized
a
green
fleet
committee
composed
of
various
city
officials
and
a
member
of
council,
but
it
hasn't
met
in
a
few
years.
How
is
it
going
to
be
rolled
into
this,
because
by
ordinance
that
has
to
have
something
to
do
with
it?.
A
C
H
You
just
indicated
the
green
fleet
committee
has
not
met
in
a
long
time
as
a
matter
of
fact,
when
we
purchased
the
ev
fleet
for
a
code
as
well
as
the
evs
for
arts
parks
and
recreation
granted,
it
would
have
met
every
chip
box
checked
by
that
group
yeah.
There
was
no
group
that
was
available
to
review
that.
A
B
To
remember
eisner's
point
I
reviewed
that
greenfleet's
policy,
which
was
enacted
by
council
in
2009
led
by
former
member
ghazni,
and
it
I
think
it
may
be
semantics.
I
don't
know
it
talks
about
procurement
of
vehicles.
B
B
The
language
or
or
up
re-update
the
committee
itself.
D
Just
hold
the
title,
so
we
can
do
all
the
front
and
back
and
paperwork
with
your
with
your
comment,
I
mean:
that's,
that's
something
we
do
every
model
year
and
we
look
at
all
vehicles
and
you
say
you
wanna,
electric,
we'll
just
throw
them
all
into
the
mix.
For
us,
it's
just
adding
another
or
amanda,
it's
adding
another
column
to,
and
it
spits
out
what
it
does
for
that
life
site.
What's
the
right
life
cycle,
what
it's
gonna
cost
and
go
that
route,
so
we
can.
We
can
definitely
help
you
with
that.
D
B
Appreciate
that
and
mayor,
I
appreciate
your
commitment
to
sustainability
and
our
carbon
emissions.
That
was
my
big
question
for
today
I
looked
at
the
numbers
before
I
came
in
and
they
look
great.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
I
was
worried
about
the
green
fleet
initiative,
so
thank
you,
mr
baldwin.
D
B
Thank
you
all
right,
president
reisner.
We
are
moving
on
to
number
two
on
our
agenda
item
tonight,
that
is,
fire
equipment
loan,
the
payment
amount.
This
is
for
the
fire
truck
that
we
have
been
paying
for
for
a
number
of
years.
Council
members
may
recall
that
we
usually
pay
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
down
per
year.
That
is
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
the
city
of
athens
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
ohio
university's
contribution
to
the
fire
truck
to
the
to
the
city.
B
So
the
recommendation
by
the
city
administration
is
to
pay
down
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
currently
owe
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
this
truck.
I
believe
the
exact
amount
is
five
hundred
and
three
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars.
This
is
included
on
our
get
on
our
debt
schedule.
It
is
due
in
mid-november
november
19th,
so
we
would
need
a
first
reading
on
the
amount
that
we
have
agreed
upon
by
october.
So
we're
ahead.
B
B
The
amendment
itself
or
the
ordinance
itself
did
not
include
a
project
number
for
the
west
state
street
improvements
and
the
auditor
looking
back
at
this
and
knowing
how
their
annual
audits
go
knows
that
having
that
project
number
in
that
ordinance
will
help
them
down
the
road.
So
this
is
an
amendment
to
09321
to
add
arts
parts
and
recreation
project
number
341
and
also
to
designate
the
actual
cost
of
the
trees.
You
may
remember
that
we
had
five
thousand
dollars
in
that
ordinance.
Some
of
that
was
going
to
be
for
the
west
state
street
parks.
B
We
would
like
to
know
exactly
what's
going
down
to
west
state
street,
so
I
believe
the
city
administration
has
recommended
about
four
thousand
dollars
about
eighty
percent
of
that
five,
so
four
thousand
dollars
would
be
amended
to
put
into
that
ordinance
with
project
number
three.
Forty
one,
I
believe,
that's
the
complete
issue
there.
Any
questions
from
count
from
the
committee.
B
The
initial
ordinance
had
the
figure
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
trees
right,
but
it
actually
wasn't
just
for
west
state
street
park
because
we're
purchasing
trees.
Some
of
those
trees,
were
going
up
to
oakmont.
B
H
H
It
just
kind
of
got
lost
in
the
shuffle
of
what
was
what,
but
it
is
we
again.
I
just
want
council
to
know
that
there
was
a
project
number
in
place
for
west
state
street
improvements
prior
to
catching
the
fact
that
there
wasn't
a
project
number
on
that
ordinance.
E
B
All
right,
thank
you,
member
president,
reisner
that
ends
finance
and
personnel.
A
I
Thank
you,
president
reiser,
and
we
have
just
one
item
on
our
agenda
this
evening,
and
that
is
that
we
need
to
make
a
slight
change
to
an
appropriation
ordinance
that
was
passed
back
in
august.
I
You
may
recall
we
discussed
the
engineering
and
public
works
department
needed
a
new
dump
truck,
and
so
we
authorized
the
expenditure
of
seventy
thousand
seven
hundred
and
forty
seven
dollars
for
that
dump
truck.
Well,
we
now
get
a
new
model.
We
get
a
2022
dump
truck
rather
than
a
2021
dump
truck
because
of
the
timing
of
when
new
vehicles
come
out.
This
is
a
lot
of
vehicle
talk
tonight
in
city,
council
and
so
associated
with
that
change
in
model
year.
I
There
is
a
an
increase
in
price,
so
we
need
to
adjust
that
by
eleven
hundred
dollars.
I
believe
is
that
correct.
Twelve
hundred,
it's
like
I've
got
the
old
ordinance
up,
but
not
my
email.
I
So
but
it
was
pretty
straightforward
as
sorry:
I've
got
a
little
pop-up
message.
I
I'm
not
sure
that
enterprise
offers
dump
trucks
as
part
of
their
program,
but
I
think
this
is
one
that
we
need.
We
need
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
our
purchase
plan
and
I
know
we
authorized
the
disposal
of
the
old
one,
and
so
we
we
do
need
to
go
ahead
and
replace
it,
and
there
is
just
a
bit
of
an
increase,
but
we
are
getting
a
newer
model
year.
So
are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
committee.
H
Yeah,
this
is
the
comment
because
you
mentioned
the
enterprise
program
that
was
just
introduced
to
council
and,
for
a
truck
of
this
nature,
a
dump
truck
these
larger
vehicles.
You
know
with
with
the
level
of
use
that
they
get
the
city.
We
feel
pretty
confident
that
these
can
be.
We
can
continue
to
purchase
them
as
needed
as
we
move
forward
as
opposed
to
rolling
into
a
lease
option
for
a
truck
this
size.
I
So,
based
on
an
email
that
I
have
from
mr
mail,
the
cost
is
one
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
more.
I
Come
back
we'll
leave
it
back:
okay,
okay,
so
so
we'll
be
next
week
introducing
an
amendment
and
I
believe
we'll
want
to
go
ahead
and
suspend
that
on
first
read
so
that
the
purchase
of
that
truck
can
move
forward.
Any
questions
from
other
members
of
council.
Okay,
that's
all
for
this
evening!.
A
A
A
A
H
H
H
The
service
plan,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
and
please
correct
me
wrong-
includes
things
like
gum,
removal,
snow
removal,
graffiti
removal,
litter
removal,
and
so
those
are
kind
of
their
starting
points
for
what
they
see
and
with
that
service
plan,
they
also
had
to
formulate
what
that
cost
would
be
by
linear
foot
for
the
properties
that
are
within
the
special
improvement
district,
and
I
believe
that
that
is
ten
dollars.
A
linear
foot
as
well
moving
forward.
H
I
this
is
an
estimate
on
my
part.
I
can
get
you
the
actual
numbers,
but
to
meet
the
needs
of
that
service
plan
with
that
ten
dollar:
a
linear
per
linear
foot
that
comes
out
to
approximately
eighty
thousand
eighty
six
thousand
again
I'll.
Get
you
the
true
number,
if
you
care
to
see
it
for
what
that
the
sid
will
generate
per
year,
which
would
be
well
into
what
would
be
needed
to
cover
that
service
plan
also
gives
them
the
ability.
H
If,
if
the
service
plan,
the
actual
expenses
during
any
given
year
are
less
than
then,
they
can
also
vote
to
do
things
like
purchase
the
flowers
that
are
in
the
hanging
baskets
and
have
someone
water,
those
flowers
in
the
hanging
baskets
that
kind
of
falls
outside
the
service
plan,
but
can
be
something
that
is
a
service
that
the
special
improvement
district
property
owners
may
say.
We
want
that,
and
so
they
do
have
the
flexibility
within
the
board
to
make
changes
like
that
for
revenue
that
they
have
above
and
beyond
the
service
plan.
A
E
H
H
It
is
not
well,
the
general
assembly
is
so
there's
the
general
assembly,
but
then
there's
the
board
and
the
board
has,
I
believe,
it's
nine
members,
member
smedley.
I
will
double
check
that
I
am
kind
of
de
facto
the
the
mayor
and
a
city
council
member
both
serve
on
that
board
and
I
believe
the
current
council
member
that
is
serving
on
that
board
is
member
fault.
H
So
council
may
want
to
consider
council
president
may
want
to
consider
moving
forward,
who
that
individual
will
be
in
the
near
future,
but
that's
and
then
the
other
members
are
property
owner
members
of
the
basically
the
the
board
of
directors
for
the
special
improvement
district.
E
Just
to
two
other
questions,
and
so,
though,
that
voting
authority
selected
these
items
for
the
purposes
of
these
funds-
okay-
and
it
mentions
it'd-
be
creating
a
non-profit
and
is-
is
that
correct?
Did
I
read
that
correctly,
there'd
be
a
non-profit
and
that
would
be
used
to
hire
any
contractor
if
they
were
to
hire
employees
or
something
like
that
to
do
this
work.
H
H
I
think
that's
in
your
package
as
well
to
sign
off
and
if
not,
I
can
explain
it
to
council
now
is
that
then
the
property
owners
within
the
special
improvement
district
need
to
be
re-canvassed,
to
sign
a
petition
agreeing
to
pay
the
60
60
to
pay
the
ten
dollars
per
linear
foot
four
said
service
agreement
and
we
have
to
have
the
sid
needs
to
have
six.
I
believe
it's
sixty
percent
of
the
property
owners
within
the
special
improvement
district
vote
in
the
affirmative
on
the
petition
that
they
agreed
to
have
this
take
place.
E
Just
a
quick
comment:
it
is
cool
that
it's
like,
as
close
as
you
can
get
to
seeing
your
tech,
essentially
as
a
small
tax,
going
right
back
into
your
community
and
you
having
a
really
close
proximity
to
deciding
how
to
use
it.
So
the
city's
part
in
this
is
simply
the
administrative
piece
of
collecting
the
funds
and
then
directing
no,
not.
E
H
No,
the
collecting
agency
would
be
through
the
county
auditor
and
then
that
money
would
be
remitted
to
the
the
sid
okay
board
and
then
they
would
manage
the
use
of
those
funds
and
they
also
are
subject
to
auditing.
They
would
be
audited
and
okay.
J
I
Remember
grace
just
also
to
point
out
this:
the
city
is
a
member
of
the
sid,
and
so
our
linear
footage
will
be
assessed
and
we
will
pay
into
that
fund.
To
then
have
these
services
in
front
of
the
city-owned
properties
as
well
and.
H
B
So
a
couple
of
questions
related
to
that
you
know
what
percentage
the
city's
square
footage
is
in
the
overall
sid.
Oh,
it's
it
it's
small
and
the
60
that
you
need
to
get
them
to
sign
off
on
this
when
you
originally,
when
we
originally
created
the
sid.
Was
it
also
60
of
the
property
owners
that
had
to
agree?
Yes,
so
I
mean
you're,
we're
hoping
somebody
over
six
years
hasn't
fallen
off,
but
we
should
be
able
to
get
they've
already
agreed
once
right.
Yes,
thank
you.
H
They
have,
and
you
did
ask
percentage-wise.
I
can't
give
you
percentage-wise,
but
I
can
give
you
the
estimate
as
to
what
the
cost
would
be
annually
for
the
city
for
those
three
frontages
and
I
believe
it's
somewhere
between
two
and
three
thousand
dollars
annually
to
have
things
like
continuous
snow
removal,
gum,
removal,
trash
removal,
graffiti
removal.
A
Any
other
question
remember.
G
Zip,
I
just
have
just
one
small
comment
and
just
as
an
employee
of
an
uptown
business.
How
excited
about
this?
I
am
because
I
I
couldn't
tell
you
the
number
of
mornings
I've
had
to
go
in
front
of
where
I
work
at
5
30
in
the
morning
and
try
and
chisel
away
at
ice
and
snow
and
then
deal
with
cigarettes
and
gum
and
stuff
taking
that
burden
off
of
employees
of
businesses
who
are
already
doing
a
lot
of
stuff
doing
their
jobs.
A
I
Sure,
just
it
looks
to
me
like
this,
is
an
awning
to
go
over
the
the
garage
door
opening
like
the
the
restaurant
uses
for
a
loading
area,
an
awning
over
that
entry.
That
is
fairly
simple
but
tastefully,
designed
to
read
salaam
fine
world
cuisine.
C
H
Mr
mayor,
that
garage
has
been
recently
remodeled
into
an
I
think,
an
expansion
of
their
dining
area,
so
I
think
for
them
to
roll
up
that
garage
door
on
a
pleasant
evening.
I
think
it
also
allows
them
to
have
keep
the
rain
out
if
they
do
get
a
shower
or
something
like
that.
But
if
you
haven't
seen
it
it's
it's
worth,
taking
a
look
at
it
so
long.
C
K
The
right-of-way
line,
okay,
as
just
a
reminder
for
this
body
that
the
title
49
you
know
which
this
this
body
passed
a
couple
years
ago,
basically
totally
revamped
our
the
way
that
we
manage
city
rights
of
way.
If
you
may
remember
back
in
the
day,
we
did
revocable
licenses
for
use
of
the
right
of
way
that
that
term
changed
to
special
right-of-way
permits
under
the
under
the
title
49.
K
But
it
still
is
the
authority
of
city
council
to
grant-
and
these
are
for
the
one-off
uses
of
right-of-way
by
a
property
owner
to
do
a
given
thing
like
a
it
could
be
a
fence.
It
could
be
a
sign.
It
could
be
a
balcony
in
many
cases.
The
way
that
we're
administering
these
is
that
as
a
revocable
license
that
somebody
may
have
already
had
comes
due
for
renewal,
we
come
back
to
council
and
request
a
special
right-of-way
permit,
rather
than
a
revocable
license.
K
You
know,
as
the
as
the
thing
comes
up
for
a
renewal
in
this
case.
This
is
a
new
item
that
they're
doing,
but
that's
that's
the
purpose
of
this.
This
request
from
them.
A
Other
members
of
the
council
questions
about
this
awning
member
crawl.
B
K
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
When
we
passed
title
49,
I
think
that
there
was
initially
what
we
had
proposed
was
that
you
know
you
just
make
this
an
administrative
permit
type
function
as
opposed
to
a
council
function,
and
there
was
some
concern
from
council
members
that
that
they
were
exceeding
authority
to
the
administration
by
basically
giving
up
the
revocable
license
authority
and
instead
and
say
granted
to
the
administration.
K
The
title
49
does
give
the
the
permits
for
entities
that
operate
a
system
in
the
right-of-way
after
they
are
initially
authorized
by
city
council
to
for
for
changes
to
those
to
be
done
administratively
and
people
who
operate
a
system
in
the
right-of-way
are
utility
companies.
So
american
electric
power
spectrum.
You
know
and
there's
a
whole
body
of
law
that
governs
public
utilities
and
use
of
public
rights
away,
and
this
is
our
little
effort
within
athens
to
try
to
try
to
manage
that.
K
In
these
instances,
the
special
right-of-way
permits-
those
are
the
one-off
property
owners
who
don't
operate
a
system
in
the
right-of-way
and
are
basically
using
the
public
space
for
private
good,
and
so,
given
that
city
council
owns
is
the
is
the
functionally
the
the
landlord
for
lack
of
a
better
term
for
all
of
the
public
land
in
the
city
or
the
owner
of
all
the
public
land
in
the
city.
K
C
A
A
K
This
is
an
example
of
one
of
the
prior
prior
ones
that
we
discovered,
basically
that
was
a
property
owner
using
a
portion
of
the
right-of-way
that
we
hadn't
we
didn't
know
before,
and
so,
when
the
use
changed
of
this
particular
property,
we
went
through
a
you
know
the
zoning
review
to
to
look
at
things
like
the
sign
ordinance
and
making
sure
there
was
a
compliance
with
the
sign
ordinance
and
the
co-director
determined
that
the
sign
as
it
stood
before
under
under
the
lock
and
key
facility,
actually
was
in
the
right
of
way
and
so
required
a
permit
from
from
the
council
to
keep
it
there
and
this
property
owner
just
wants
to
keep
the
sign
in
its
current
location,
just
to
change
it
to
be
their
new
business
sign,
and
so
here's
a
situation
where
we've
caught
somebody
basically
using
the
public
space
that
has
for
a
long
time.
C
A
I
A
Okay,
well,
I
believe
that
concludes
planning
and
development
committee,
and
our
last
committee
to
come
up
will
be
transportation,
which
is
chaired
by
myself.
Jeff
reisner,
with
vice
chair
sam
krau,.
A
B
B
This
is
again,
I
believe,
bookkeeping
in
terms
of
having
the
west
state
street
park
paving
be
included
in
our
paving
ordinance.
I
have
no
problems
with
it.
Thank
you.
Memberizer
remembers.
A
A
So
so
amenable
okay,
I
didn't
get
to
do
anything
yeah.
I
know
you
could
pick
something
or
something.
Well,
if
there's
does
the
administration
want
to
talk?
A
All
right
so
well,
in
that
case
transportation
committee
is
completed,
and
I
will
now
call
a
committee
of
the
whole.
A
The
topic
for
committee
of
the
whole
is
halloween,
and
I
assume
that
means
a
little
more
than
just
october.
31St
turned
over
to
the
administration.
H
And
administration
turns
it
right
back
over
to
you
now.
So,
as
council
was
aware,
you
know
you
approved
a
slate
of
street
closings
and
and
suspending
rules
on
the
noise,
ordinance
and
and
other
things
vending
in
this
area.
H
You
know
we're
watching
closely,
as
I
imagine
most
of
council
is
at
the
current
state
of
affairs
when
it
comes
to
the
chronovirus
and
most
notably,
the
delta
variant
here
in
athens,
so
the
service
safety
director-
and
I
are
watching
those
numbers
closely
at
this
point
in
time.
Aside
from
the
fact
that
council
did
authorize
street
closing
for
this,
for
what
would
otherwise
be
the
halloween
block
party,
we
are
certainly
watching
things
closely
and
what
is
the
safest
thing
to
do
for
our
community?
H
The
other
thing
that
the
clerk
council
and
I
were
discussing
earlier
was
the
neighborhood
trick-or-treating
that
takes
place.
Usually
that's
the
thursday
before
halloween
this
year.
It
would
be
the
28th
of
october.
H
At
this
point,
it
is
on
the
household
that
may
want
to
distribute
candy
to
individuals
coming
to
trick
or
treat
so.
Therefore,
you
know,
I
feel
that
october
28th
at
this
point
in
time,
for
those
who
choose
or
not
choose
to
partake
in
the
neighborhood
trick-or-treating
that
they
can
do
so
between
5
30
and
7
p.m.
H
On
the
28th
for
the
neighborhood,
the
one
item
that
we
don't
have,
I
haven't
heard
anything
from
the
uptown
business
association,
which
is
under
the
chamber
of
commerce
as
to
whether
they
were
going
to
do
their
court
street
trick-or-treating
clerk
of
council.
Do
you
recall
was
that
also
included
in
it
was
okay,
so
that
council
did
authorize
a
street
closing
for
I
believe
it's
typically
for
about
six
to
eight
hours
in
the
evening
when
that
does
take
place.
K
Quick
before
we
start
questions,
you
know,
we've
talked
a
lot
about.
Do
we
cancel
halloween
the
block
party?
You
know,
we've
talked
a
lot
internally
about
it
and
you
know
if
I
were
to
look
at
the
news
today
and
I
were
to
look
at
the
coveted
numbers
today
compared
to
last
year.
K
My
recommendation
would
be
yes
that
that
we
would
do
that,
but
my
fear
is
if
we
make
that
decision
today,
that
it
is
indeed
cancelled
and
then
the
the
pandemic
takes
a
takes
a
downturn
in
cases
and
that
downturn
rides
for
several
weeks.
Then
we
crash
into
halloween
and
halloween
happens
to
us
rather
than
us,
driving
the
action.
So
what
we've
told
folks
who
have
asked
is
the
decision
about
whether
or
not
the
block
party
is
cancelled
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
make
later
in
september.
K
As
we
get
a
better
picture
of
the
pandemic
and
the
direction
the
pandemic
is
going.
You
know
when
I
started
with
the
city,
the
the
whole.
It
was
a.
K
It
was
an
adverse
relationship
with
the
public
and
and
halloween
it
was.
You
know,
we're
gonna
fight
about.
You
know
we'll
put
all
the
police
out
here
and
you
get
out
of
the
streets
and
you
can't
be
in
the
streets
and
the
public
said.
Well,
we
want
to
be
in
the
streets
and
that's
what
we
want
to
do
and-
and
it
really
was
pretty
ugly
and
over
the
years
we've
come
to
terms
with
you
know,
with
the
halloween
block
party
and
and
allowed
it
to
occur
in
the
safest
venue
possible.
K
We've
tried
a
very
a
variety
of
different
ideas
on
on
how
to
you
know
how
to
even
monetize
it
a
little
bit
for
for
the
city
so
that
we
recruit
a
little
bit
of
the
cost.
K
How
we
gradually
shift
the
time
earlier
in
the
evening
how
we
focus
the
crowd
towards
towards
you,
know:
bands
versus
just
just
wandering
around
on
the
streets
and-
and
it's
really
been
rather
successful-
most
successful
last
year
when
there
was
pandemic
and
there
was
no
no
people
and
they
came
so
you
know,
but
but
this
year
my
fear
if
we
said
today,
halloween's
canceled
because
of
the
pandemic
and
then
the
delta
variant
starts
to
subside
and
we
go
six
seven
weeks
with
no.
K
F
K
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
make
a
decision
a
little
closer
to
october
1st.
As
to
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
happen
as
we
bring
an
ordinance
forward,
it
will
probably
be
along
the
lines
of
what
what
you
did
last
year,
which
is
granting
you
know
authority
to
the
administration
if
an
emergency
occurs
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
closure.
But
if
you
give
us
a
couple
more
weeks
here
to
assess
the
situation
and
then
we'll
come
forward
with
the
recommendation.
Well,.
A
K
K
Well,
we
would
have
to
grant
permission
to
that
and
you
know:
we've
been
in
touch
with
the
the
historic
folks
who've
participated
in
the
planning
and
they've
asked
the
question:
hey
we're
gonna,
do
it
or
not?
We've
said
we're
not
making
a
decision
yet,
but
if
I
had
to
tell
you
today,
no
so
they
said
all
right.
H
Just
got
an
email
today
asking
is
this
happening
and
we
responded
saying
exactly
what
we're
telling
you
is
that
we're
certainly
monitoring
coveted
19
cases
here
in
the
city
of
athens
and
the
positivity
rate,
and
I
don't
mean
that
in
a
good
way,
they
increase
in
positive
cases
so
that
communication
has
been
had.
I
would
also
add
to
director
stone's
comment
about
the
change
in
things.
Another
group
that
we
have
not
heard
from
is
the
honey
for
the
heart
parade
through
passion
works.
There
has
been
no
communications
with
passion
works.
To
have
that.
H
That
is
another
great
positive
event
that
takes
place
during
the
halloween
block
party
in
non-coveted
years
in
the
past,
to
where
we
started,
seeing
more
and
more
families
with
small
children
coming
up
and
attending
that
portion
to
itself.
So
there
has
been
some
really
great
changes
to
the
halloween
block
party
and,
but
unfortunately,
we're
living
under
a
pandemic.
That's
constantly
evolving
and,
unfortunately
we're
we're
sitting
with
a
variant
that
is
extremely
contagious.
H
I
can
attest
to
that
on
my
own
experience
with
having
children
that
are
on
the
non-vaccinatable
age
range,
unfortunately,
and
having
to
live
through
that
nightmare
as
a
parent
so
again
we're
watching
things
closely.
We
will
certainly
keep
council
abreast
as
well
as
the
public
when
we
have
an
announcement
to
make
on
that
particular
event.
But
again
we
have
to
think
out
think
what
is
best
for
the
safety
and
welfare
of
our
entire
community
entire
community.
I
Going
back
to
the
neighborhood
trick-or-treat,
I
I
think
that
I
recall
in
past
years
we
had
discussed
holding
trick-or-treat
night
on
halloween
night
on
the
31st,
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
It
is
planned
for
the
thursday
before,
rather
than
on
the
31st.
I
I
E
I
remember
smedley
thank
you.
Member
eisner
last
year
did
we
send
out
some
materials
on
suggestions
for
families
on
how
to
safely
do
trick-or-treating?
Can
we
do
that
again?
Are.
H
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
yeah.
We
saw
some
very
creative
ways
of
delivering
candy
last
year,
everything
from
taping
or
hanging
pieces
of
candy
from
a
tree
in
your
front
yard
to
having
a
six
inch,
pvc
pipe
that
is
10
12
feet
long
and
shooting
it
down
into
kids
bags.
I
I
would
caution
people
against
that.
That's
a
really
long
distance
and
you're
liable
to
blow
the
kid
right
over,
but
you
know
we
can
push
out
something
remember
smoothly.
It.
E
Would
be
cool,
we
did
this
candy
shoot
and
for
what
it's
worth
reese's
piece
of
peanut
butter
cups
get
stuck
so,
but
wouldn't
it
be
fun
if
there
was
sort
of
a
little
contest
to
see
who
could
do
it?
The
most
creatively
like
and
people
can
post
the
ways
that
they
they're
doing
it
safely
online
or
something
like
that.
Just
a.
C
J
H
Yeah
I
have,
I
have
not
had
any
one-on-one
communications
with
president
hugh
sherman
or
his
staff
about
the
homecoming
and
homecoming
events.
K
Yeah,
I'm
not
either
they've
not
contacted
me
yet.
That
said,
you
know
we
typically
work
with
them.
You
know
we
do
homecoming
under
parade
permit
and
which
is
a
different,
a
different
process,
but
but
it
is
a
definitely
something
that
we'll
have
to
work
closely
with
ohio
university
on
you
know.
We've
historically
talked
about
different
routes,
and
you
know
change
routes
over
time.
Based
upon
you
know,
various
concerns
this
you
know
I
think
last
year
was
was
it
canceled
last
year
you
know
totally,
or
you
know,
was
the
parade
yeah.
K
So
I
think
this
year
it's
it's
probably
one
of
those
things
that
they
haven't
thought
that
much
about
so
we
we
owe.
C
J
J
J
A
Figures,
you
always
seem
to
know,
what's
going
on
any
other
questions
about
the
topic
at
hand
or
other
events,
nothing.
Well.
I
think
that
concludes
the
committee
of
the
whole
and
I
believe
that
concludes
our
council
meeting.
So
we're
adjourned
well,
not
really
adjourned,
we're
just
out
of
here
at
8
21..
Do
we
need
a
motion
for
that?
No
no
committee,
okay,.