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Athens City Council - February 14, 2022
A
The
first
one
is
for
a
land
appropriation,
and
this
is
part
of
what
we've
previously
referred
to
as
the
west
union
street
improvements
project.
It's
part
of
the
design
that
was
some
of
the
design
and
conversations
for
this
began,
I
believe,
as
far
back
as
2000,
maybe
earliest
2016
and
then
2017.
A
So
it's
been
a
number
of
years
and
typical
of
a
lot
of
our
projects
where,
where
service
safety,
director
stone,
coordinates
different
parcels
of
money
to
accomplish
improvements
to
curb
sidewalks
the
road
itself
and
in
this
particular
case
with
the
land
appropriation
there.
The
design
as
it
is
now
will
be
a
connector
road,
and
I
might
add
that
a
number
of
designs
and
I'm
sure
service
safety,
director
stone,
can
detail
and
further
that
there
are
were
a
number
of
designs
that
were
considered.
A
But
we
are
at
the
final
stages
now,
and
so
our
role
is
not
to
design
the
project
design,
the
design,
the
improvements
or
the
route,
but
rather
to
take
a
look
at
this
to
get
the
update
from
several
of
our
council
members,
who
have
been
in
meetings
with
director
stone
and
to
look
at
what
is
now
requested
by
the
administration.
A
That's
a
resolution
to
appropriate
two
parcels
of
real
property
in
for
the
project,
so
that
there
is
a
right-of-way
easement,
and
I
believe
that
council,
members,
crowl
and
reisner,
and
maybe
council
member
spieldness,
you've
spoken
with
the
city
administration.
So
if
you
have
any
comments,
we'll
lead
off
with
you
three
council
members
and
then
we'll
turn
it
over
to
administration.
B
Thank
you,
madam
president,
as
you
mentioned
myself
and
my
colleagues
have
met
with
director
stone
concerning
this,
what
we're
talking
about
is
the
use
of
eminent
domain
and
that's
something
that
no
community,
and
certainly
not
this
council
would
take
lightly
to
do
when
we're
dealing
with
appropriating
someone's
property
for
the
public
good.
B
I
thought
director
stone
and
his
staff
who
were
present
at
the
meeting
did
a
really
good
job
of
explaining
to
myself,
and
I
remember
crowl
that
the
whole
series
of
steps
that
have
to
be
done
in
order
to
move
forward
on
something
like
eminent
domain.
B
B
First
of
all,
in
order
to
do
it,
the
director
will
need
a
approval
from
the
city
that
comes
to
council,
the
mayor
and
then
down
to
the
director,
and
I
think,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
either
my
colleagues
or
yes,
councilmember.
C
Crowl,
thank
you
president
nicely
and
member.
B
C
I'll
just
say
that
I
came
to
the
meeting
last
week
with
a
number
of
questions
specifically
regarding
the
project
under
discussion,
and
they
were
all
answered
satisfactorily
to
to,
and
you
know
and
completely
in
my
mind,
my
questions
were
about
the
the
benefit
to
the
public
good
for
the
prep
for
the
project
in
general
for
the
the
possibility
of
alternative
routes.
C
Instead
of
acquiring
this,
this
specific
property
through
eminent
domain,
as
well
as
you
know
how
those
routes
connect
to
west
state
street
and
the
importance
of
where
that
intersection
will
be-
and
I
am
was
completely
satisfied
with
the
responses
I
got
from
director
stone
and
his
staff
for
the
specific
need
of
this
acquisition.
Okay,
thank
you.
President.
Obviously,.
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
President
nicely.
I
met
with
ed
newman,
who
is
a
west
sider
one
of
my
constituents,
and
he
was
particularly
interested
in
talking
about
well
a
few
things,
but
one
of
them
that
comes
that
is
important.
Today
is
this
particular
issue.
D
He
is-
and
I
think
folks
know
this-
that
he
has
been
opposed
to
this
project
or
the
herald
street
bypass
cut
through.
I
guess
we
talked
about
his
concern
and
he
specifically
said
that
he
feels
that
it
could
increase
traffic
through
the
neighborhoods,
and
that
was
something
that
he
was
opposed
to
and
he
feels
as
though
he
hasn't
gotten
a
sufficient
answer
to
that
issue.
D
You
know
who
knows
exactly
how
things
are
going
to
go,
but
I
promised
him
that
we
would
give
him
an
answer
that
director
stone
would
address
that
issue
and
he
did
with
with
me,
like
I
said,
and
some
other
issues
too.
So
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
understand
why
this
is
a
good
thing
and
director
stone
did
a
really
nice
little
write-up
for
me
and
for
you
know
the
community
but
he's
interested
and
what
the
benefits
are.
C
You
president
nicely
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Membership
on
this.
I
also
spoke
with
mr
newman,
and
I
understand
his
concerns.
C
I
I
I
think
that
the
overall
benefits
to
the
west
side
in
terms
of
safety
service
access
through
this
roadway
outweigh
the
concerns
over
additional
traffic
in
the
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
A
And
that
covers
what
I
was
going
to
say
so
yes,
administration
well,
and
are
there
any
other
comments
briefly
from
council
members?
If,
if
not
we'll
move
on
to
administration,
to
provide
some
background?
Yes,.
E
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
president
eisley
and
council
members
to
speak
specifically
about
what
we're
asking
tonight
and-
and
it's
in
the
committee
meeting
to
introduce
the
one
reading
resolution
that
will
take
place
next
week
in
order
to
set
conditions
for
the
appropriation
of
that
real
property.
So
the
appropriation
of
property
is
a
is
a
is
an
action
that
that
you
know
rarely
has
to
occur,
but
from
time
to
time
has
to
occur.
E
When
you
do
a
public
improvement
where
the
the
the
public
body,
whether
that
be
the
you
know,
the
village,
the
city,
the
the
state,
make
the
determination
of
the
county,
the
state
that
make
the
determination
that
that
the
the
benefit
to
the
public
good
outweighs
the
individual
private
property
right.
E
There
are
some
very
strong
federal
laws
about
what
how
and
when
a
public
body
can
exercise
eminent
domain
actions
and-
and
it's
not
taken
lightly.
As
member
eisner
mentioned
you
know,
much
of
that
is
a
and
much
of
those
laws.
The
uniform
act
is
the
federal
law,
specifically
that
talks
to
about
it
is
was
put
in
place
after
the
construction
of
the
eisenhower
interstate
system.
E
Where
you
know
often,
you
know
a
a
a
land
agent
or
even
a
you
know,
representative
of
a
public,
would
show
up
and
say,
here's
here's
a
couple
thousand
dollars.
The
bulldozers
will
be
here
tomorrow
and-
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
havoc
that
that
you
know
it
reached
in
in
cities
and
such
over
time.
E
And
so
you
know
the
the
federal
government
recognized
that
that's
a
that's
an
a
significant
impact
to
communities
and
so
therefore
there's
some
pretty
stringent
laws
related
to
how
public
bodies
acquire
prop
property
for
public
improvements.
The
ohio
department
of
transportation,
when
a
local
agency
is
spending
federal
money
on
a
public
improvement
where
they're
going
to
acquire
property,
has
some
very
stringent
regulations
about
how
you
have
to
you
have
to
go
about
acquiring
that
property
which
involves
requiring
the
the
public
agency
to
hire
a
third
party
pre-qualified
land
agent.
E
Basically
that
functions
as
as
your
proxy,
your
being
the
public
agency's
proxy
to
to
meet
with
individual
property
owners
who
are
going
to
be
affected
by
a
project
and
and
we've
done
that
the
city
of
athens.
So,
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
athens,
we
hired
a
land
agent
who
subsequently
has
been
doing
the
negotiations
with
the
property
owners
related
to
this
project.
E
There
are
a
couple
dozen
parcels
that
are
being
acquired
and
when
I
say
parcels
I
don't
necessarily
mean
the
entire
parcel,
often
times
it.
It
might
be
a
space
the
size
of
this
desk,
but
because
it's
outside
of
the
existing
public
property,
whether
it
be
temporarily
needed
or
permanently
needed,
there's
an
acquisition
necessary
and
there's
an
appraisal
that
takes
place
to
look
at
that.
E
The
the
value
of
that
property
and
the
land
agent
will
go
in
and
contact
the
individual
following
the
prescribed
regulations
that
odot
puts
in
place
to
make
sure
you're
following
the
provisions
of
the
uniform
act
and
and
seeks
to
to
to
ensure
that
the
the
owner
understands
what's
happening
and
then
is
justly
compensated.
E
Should
they
choose
not
to
donate
the
property.
In
many
cases,
you've
got
property
owners,
that'll
donate
property
because
they
see
the
benefit.
In
some
cases
they
get
a
tax
write-off
or
something
along
those
lines,
but
but
oftentimes
they
they
ask
for
compensation
for
for
the
property,
and
so
in
all
cases
on
this
particular
project
are.
It
appears
as
though
that
that
negotiator
that
land
agent
has
achieved.
You
know
an
agreement
with
the
property
owner
to
clear
the
right-of-way
is
what
we
call
it.
E
One
remaining
parcel
that
is
not
clear
right
now
are
two
parcels
are
the
two
that
we're
talking
about
this
evening
and
it
has
to
do
with
a
particular
access
point
between
the
harold
avenue
access
road
that
goes
between
west
state
street
and
west
union
street
and
and
and
west
state
street.
Specifically,
there
is
a
a
vacant
lot
next
to
355
west
state
street
that
will
be
acquired
in
fee
simple
and
owned
completely
by
the
members
of
the
or
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
athens.
E
You
know
a
permanent
ownership
for
for
that
road
purpose,
as
well
as
another
partial
take
of
a
vacant
lot
behind
355
west
state
street,
as
well
as
a
temporary,
take
in
order
to
construct
a
slope.
This
particular
property
owner
hasn't
responded
and
won't
respond
to
the
land
agent
and
in
your
materials.
E
You
see
the
the
record
of
the
efforts
to
make
that
to
make
that
contact
so
in
this
particular
action
that
we're
asking
this
evening,
it's
the
for
the
council
to
authorize
the
administration
to
let
the
property
owner
know
that
that
we're
gonna
make
a
filing
in
in
court
for
appropriations,
where
the
money
that
has
been
the
appraised
value
of
that
property
basically
will
be
deposited
in
the
court
with
the
court
and
then
at
such
time
in
the
future,
there'll
be
a
either.
E
You
know,
negotiations
outside
of
the
court
or
actually
in
court
to
determine
whether
or
not
that
compensation
is
just,
but
by
making
that
deposit.
You
know
that
functionally
clears
right
away
so
that
the
project
can
move
ahead
and
that's
what
we're.
What
we're
asking
for
this
evening,
specifically,
hopefully
that
answers
questions
as
far
as
process
goes.
You
know
I
can
speak
to
the
wider
project.
We
have
talked
about
the
wider
project
in
a
couple
other
sessions
of
council.
E
I
know
that
there
are
some
new
council
members
since
the
last
time
that
we've
talked
about
the
project.
There
will
be
a
couple
more
pieces
of
legislation
that
will
come
forward,
one
of
which
is
a
is
an
lpa
agreement
which
allows
the
city
to
enter
into
agreement
with
the
ohio
department
of
transportation
in
order
to
locally
administer
those
federal
funds.
You
know
athens
is
fortunate
and
that
we
we've
done
a
good
job.
E
We
are
applying
for
state
issue,
one
which
is
state
money.
We
haven't
been
awarded
that
yet,
but
we've
scored
very
well
and
that
and
then
the
remainder
of
the
the
money
that
will
go
into
this
project
will
be
street
rehab
money
from
the
572
fund,
as
well
as
water
and
sewer
fund
money
for
the
capital
improvements
associated
with
those
particular
attributes
of
the
particular
project.
E
A
He
knows
me
too
well,
we've
been,
we
did
have
a
copy
of
a
map.
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
in
the
document
it's
the
last
page
of
the
document
and
and
on
it
I'm
noticing
here
on
the
heart
or
the
copy
that
we
have
in
our
computers.
The
two
parcels
are
shaded,
so
this
particular
individual
owns
three
parcels
and
two
of
which
are
vacant,
but
the
third
parcel,
then,
is
that
where
the
person
resides,
it's.
E
Actually,
four
parts,
so
so
there's
the
parcel
where
the
house
is
there's
a
vacant
lot
on
either
side
and
then
there's
a
vacant
lot
in
the
back,
separated
by
an
alley.
E
The
take
is
the
eastern
vacant
lot
in
its
entirety
as
a
warranty,
deed
and
then
a
portion
of
the
rear
or
the
southern
vacant
lot
that
is
included.
The
the
house
itself
is
not
included,
nor
is
the
vacant
lot
to
the
west.
B
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
this,
what
this
resolution
does
it,
it
does
not
say,
grant
permission
for
the
city
to
proceed,
to
take
the
property.
What
we're
talking
about
is
the
amount
of
money
that
has
been
assessed,
which
is
64
310
dollars
will
be
placed
essentially
in
escrow
in
the
court,
which
I
assume
quarter
column
please,
so
would
that
be
right
and
the
suit,
as
it
were,
is
really
about
whether
or
not
that
amount
is
significant
or
sufficient
enough
to
cover
the
the
true
value
of
that
land?
B
That's
the
dispute
at
that
point.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
make
it
clear
that
we're
not
saying
that
with
this,
you
can
go
ahead
and
take
the
land.
What
we're
really
saying
is
okay,
the
deal
has
been
done.
We're
going
to
put
give
you
three
thousand
dollars
you.
You
can
now
come
back
and
say
no,
I
want
more.
E
Proceed,
you
know
we
could
not
appropriate
the
property.
That
said,
the
the
court
dispute
is
not
about
whether
or
not
the
property
is
taken
or
not
it's
about
the
value.
Ultimately,
that
is
due
for
the
the
taken
property.
F
Boy
I
went
down
here
today.
Looked
around
got
a
lot
of
nasty
looks
as
I
was
walking
all
over
the
place
and
looking
at
this
map,
it
looks
like
we're
gonna
cut
through
the
old
rail
raised
railroad
bed
no
well.
E
Cut
through
is
is
incorrect.
You
know
there
won't
you
know
I
I'd
like
to
probably
sit
down
and
show
you
the
cross
sections
of
the
of
the
the
the
ultimately
the
the
the
finish
grade
of
the
the
top
of
the
old
railroad
bed
will
remain
what
it
is
today.
There
will
be
a
provision
on
the
on
on
both
on
the
southern,
I'm
sorry,
the
northern
side,
where
that
slope
will
be
made
less
severe,
but
ultimately
the
finished
grade
will
remain
the
same.
So.
F
F
E
Or
just
be
part
of
it,
we
most
likely
would
would
not
be
able
to
deliver
the
access
road
portion
in
time
and
we
would
risk
loss
of
the
federal
arc
money,
which
is
a
five
500
000
grant
for
economic
development
and
the
construction
of
this
access
road.
Specifically,
you
know
that
is
a
portion
of
the
larger
project
we
probably
could
go
and
carve
that
out
and
continue
to
proceed
with
the
western
industry
improvements.
E
You
know
that
said
we're
trying
to
in
order
to
get
some
economy
of
stale
bid.
The
whole
thing
together
as
one
project
also
the
maintenance
of
traffic
for
the
west
union
street
project
is
the
west
indian
street
portion
of
the
improvements
includes.
You
know:
dependence
upon
the
construction
of
the
access
roads.
E
So
when
you
look
at
phasing
of
construction
having
the
access
rebuilt
will
help
with
phasing
of
construction
of
the
improvements
on
west
union
street
specifically,
but
you
know
it
it
conceivably,
you
could
carve
out
that
portion
and
say:
okay,
we're
not
we're
not
doing
that,
but
you
turn
back
in
500
000
of
federal
money.
G
Mayor
patterson,
let
me
just
share
director
stone-
may
have
mentioned
this
to
those
that
he
did
meet
with
that.
You
know,
anytime,
you
don't
deliver
and
you're
returning
money.
It'll,
definitely
impact
your
scoring
for
future
projects,
and
the
city
of
athens
has
been,
I
would
say,
you
know
triple
a
rating
in
terms
of
delivering
on
projects
and
odot
recognizes
that
and
arc
recognize
the
arc.
G
Appalachian
regional
commission,
as
some
of
you
may
know-
and
some
may
not
you
know-
is
a
federal
body
that
does
have
this
kind
of
a
granting
mechanism
for
appalachian
states
or
appalachian
regions
are
the
only
ones
who
are
eligible
to
receive
funding
through
the
arc,
and
this
has
been
a
kind
of
a
long
process
to
be
able
to
acquire
the
arc
funding.
G
We
started
doing
this.
I
would
say
easily
three
years
ago,
in
meeting
with
the
director,
the
governor's
office
of
appalachia
john
kerry
came
down.
He
visited
the
site
and
recognizes
the
value
to
the
citizens
of
athens
to
have
a
project
like
this
go
through.
We
still
had
to
go
through
the
rating
process
and
be
scored
and
whatnot,
but
we
were.
We
were
successful.
Yet
again
to
receive
arc
money,
which
is
it's
kind
of
a
big
deal,
but
it's
an
even
bigger
deal
to
have
to
turn
around
and
give
that
money
back.
F
If
I
could
continue,
do
you
have
any
concern
at
all
about
traffic
where
harold
intersects
west
state
excuse
me,
west
union
street
larry's
dog
house,
particularly
on
wednesdays
and
saturdays,
in
the
months
of
april
may
and
june,.
E
E
There's
a
turn
lane
put
in
place
for
eastbound
left
turners
onto
harold
avenue
that
also
will
serve
eastbound
left
turners
into
larry's
doghouse
drive
through.
I
can't
get
larry's
dog
house
to
change
the
configuration
of
its
drive-through.
You
know
unless
we
want
to
buy
larry's
doghouse
unless
the
citizens
of
athens
would
like
to
buy
it.
E
What
we
can
do
is
work
with
them
to
say
how
their
access
to
the
roadway
is,
and
then,
if
there's
a
dispute
about
that,
are
you
in
court
on
the
back
end
when
it
comes
to
any
kind
of
taking
a
domain
action
by
by
reconfiguring
drive-throughs,
we
have
been
working
with
the
current
owner
of
larry's
doghouse,
the
restaurant,
to
ensure
that
the
design
meets
their
needs
as
well
as
meets
the
the
needs
of
the
citizenry,
and
so
we're
going
to
make
it
better
we're
not
going
to
make
it
perfect
with
this
project.
F
There
were
lots
of
cars
down
there
that
we
were
in
somewhat
of
a
dangerous
situation
in
the
event
of
an
emergency,
either
two
years
ago
or
three
I
can't
remember-
I
was
at
the
driving
range
one
saturday
or
sunday
afternoon,
hitting
golf
balls,
and
it
was
just
me
and
a
young
lady
about
30
yards
down
from
me.
Her
swing
was
much
better
than
mine
and
all
of
a
sudden,
this
car
comes
screeching
to
a
halt
in
that
parking
lot
and
everybody
jumps
out
of
the
car
yelling
and
screaming.
F
F
F
There
was
what,
if
we
had
a
big
emergency
and
for
some
reason
that
road
west
state
street
was
closed
off
up
towards
the
innovation
center
or
whatever,
and
what
cost
would
a
lack
of
a
second
entrance
and
exit
be
to
the
city
and
probably,
for
that
first
hand,
reason
and
and
no
other
reason,
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
this
project,
assuming
you
can
save
the
big
tree
at
350
at
353
between
351
and
355.
F
G
And
let
me
share
real
quick.
There
has
been
a
major
emergency
that
occurred
down
there
on
that
portion
of
west
state
street.
I
believe
it
was
2016
or
2017.
G
H
G
Point
well
taken:
we
also
have
athens
public
transit.
That's
their
hub
is
down
there
next
to
where
our
service
garage
is
so
all
of
our
service
garage
vehicles
and
the
workers
that
are
down
there.
To
your
point,
I've
often
thought
what
if
there
was
a
major
water
line,
break
or
something
worse
that
occurred
closer
to
central
avenue.
Now
we
have
apartment
complexes
and
homes
that
are
completely
cut
off,
at
least
a
vehicular
passage
in
that
particular
area,
which
is
something
that
I've
thought
about
something
else
to
share
real
quick.
G
If
I
made
president
nicely
and
I'll
be
short,
is
that
when
we
were
also
looking
at
the
possibility
of
an
access
road
and
working
with
arc,
I
had
been
working
with
ohio
health
believe
it
or
not.
Ohio
health,
where
harold
drive,
takes
that
dog
leg
and
goes
back
up
to
where
visiting
nurses
used
to
be
that
property
belongs
to
oblenas,
ohio
health
and
they
have
been
working
with
us
and
are
are
willing
to
to
vacate
that
property
that
roadway
as
we
continue
on
with
this
connector
road.
So
it's
been
a
lot
of
communications.
A
D
Yes,
council
members,
this
is
my
ward.
I
feel
it's
my
responsibility
to
be
informative
to
the
people
who
would
be
affected.
That
you
know
are
my
constituents,
so
I
just
want
to
sum
up
for
the
record-
and
I
think
this
is
important
to
understand-
and
some
of
this
has
already
been
said,
but
there
was
a
concern
about
traffic
volume
and
based
on
the
modeling
that
they
did
and
initially
working
on
this.
D
They
believe
that
it
won't
increase
traffic
or
it
will
balance
out,
as
as
they
said
so
and,
as
already
was
mentioned,
decreasing
emergency
response
time.
That
to
me
is
really
important
as
well
and
also
a
couple
of
other
things
and
business
support
and
economic
development.
This
will
provide
opportunities
for
businesses
to
grow
along
harold
avenue
and
possibly
west
union
and
and
west
state
street,
and
take
some
burden
off
of
the
businesses
on
like
stumac
on
shaffer.
D
That
really
has
gotten
bogged
down
when
we've
had
all
this
construction
and
heavy
traffic
there,
so
it
will
increase
our
tax
base
and
that's
important
also,
as
also
was
mentioned,
the
west
state
street
park
complex
will
access
will
be
accessed
more
easily
and
possibly
divert
traffic
that
otherwise
would
have
gone
through
schaefer
and
and
other
streets.
So
all
in
all,
based
on
everything
that
I
have
found,
I
am
supportive
of
this
project.
D
A
J
Grace
first,
thank
you
president
nicely.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
this
is
a
project
that
is
this.
The
city
has
looked
at
for
many
years
and
the
concern
ultimately.
For
me,
it
comes
down
to
the
concern
for
the
safety
of
individuals
who
might
be
at
the
west
state
ball
fields
or
at
the
apartment
complexes
or
anything
on
west
state
street
west
of
central
avenue.
J
F
Quickly,
taxes
were
were
mentioned,
anytime,
private
property
is
taken
offline.
There
is
an
impact
on
the
tax
base.
I
stopped
at
the
county
auditors
today
and
the
maximum.
This
is
going
to
affect
the
tax
base
in
athens.
Athens
city
schools
is
a
total
of
less
than
600
dollars,
so
the
impact
on
the
city,
schools
of
losing
some
taxes
is
minimal.
Oh,
and
by
the
way
the
ou
student
was
able
to
revive
that
young.
K
A
Yes,
so
name
address
and
you
can.
L
L
So
it's
a
bad
sidewalk
as
it
is
really
probably
need
a
sidewalk
installed
on
the
north
side
of
of
west
state
to
be
able
to
make
our
yeah
west
state,
north
side
or
west
state
to
be
able
to
get
better
pedestrian
access
to
the
park.
That
would
work
with
this
project,
but
maybe
I
could
just
get
clarification
if
there's
any
sidewalk
improvements
on
what
state
considered
as
part
of
this
project,
or
is
my
answer
before
that
I
heard
before
was
no.
That
would
have
to
be
a
separate
project.
Is
that
still
the
case?
E
There's
not
a
plan
right
now
to
construct
a
sidewalk
on
what
state
street
on
the
north
side.
That
said,
it's
not
beyond
the
pale.
I
mean
it's
only.
It's
only
money
right.
E
I
I
The
thing
that
concerns
me
when
they
did
the
trap
when
the
traffic
study
was
done,
I
I
feel
like
it
was
sort
of
incomplete
and
actually,
when
I
mentioned
it
to
jessica
at
a
dean
back,
then
she
noted
that
we,
you
know
we
had
it.
Hadn't
looked
at
like
say,
clark
at
that
point
and
places
like
that
nor
north
of
the,
where
the
project
is
being
looked
like.
I
So
what
I'm
concerned
about,
I
guess
that's
is
how
this
will
affect
traffic
going
through
our
neighborhood
like
west
state,
I
mean
west,
I
mean
central
shaffer
and
second,
you
can
relate
to
that.
You
know,
while
it
may
very
well,
and
hopefully
it
will
alleviate
traffic
snarls
that
are
down
on
west
state
in
various
places
and
schaefer.
I
I
Now
when
that
study
was
done,
I
think
it
was
done
when
those
bus,
those
bus
lanes
were
put
over
there
for
the
school
that
won't
be
there
pretty
soon
and
if
it
would
have
been
illustrating
the
traffic
before
that,
when
people
were
parked
on
both
sides
of
the
street
traveling
through
west
state
street,
some
sort
of
like
playing
chicken,
because
the
streets
just
not
quite
wide
enough
to
handle
two
cars
passing
through
parked
cars
on
either
side
very
well,
and
it's
a
little
bit
crazy,
a
little
bit
dangerous.
I
What's
the
is
there
some
kind
of
I
guess,
plan
b,
to
address
that
I
know
in
other
parts
of
town
there's
all
kinds
of
traffic,
slowing,
slowing
down
things
going
on
signage
infrastructure,
and
it
seems
like
on
the
west
end
that
isn't
any
kind
of
priority
at
all,
and
so
I'm
concerned
about
making
it
maybe
more
dangerous
for
the
neighborhood
adjacent
to
that
area,
and
I
would
like
to
see
some
more
thought
go
into
that.
I
Three
minutes
regarding
the
person
the
eminent
domain
vic
victim
there.
I
don't
think
they're
into
that.
Having
that
happen
by
their
house,
I
can't
speak
for
them,
but
that's
they've
expressed
that
I
know
I
wasn't
faced
with
the
same
thing.
Ap
was
including
their
their
electric
line
by
me.
They
wanted
to
expand
the
right
of
way
there
all
the
way
almost
into
my
house,
and
I
didn't
go
for
that.
I
A
Well
and-
and
they
have
been
it's
at
this
point-
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
hear
your
comments
I
hear
and
your
your
sense
of
empathizing
with
them
and
that
you've
been
in
that
similar
situation,
so
appointment.
I
A
A
It's
coming
forward
tonight.
As
a
committee
of
the
whole
council
member
mccary,
I
believe,
is
going
to
offer
a
recap
and
then
I
think
we
have
some
other
issues
that
that
I
think
the
council
member
swank,
wants
to
discuss
and
so
we'll
go
through
those
items
and
and
have
some
discussion
about
it,
and
I
do
want
to
get
the
input
also,
then,
from
city
administration,
realizing
that
amidst
all
of
this,
we
are
midway
in
a
contract,
and
I
I
I
I
I
think
council
needs
to
be
very
careful
in
thinking
about
that.
A
M
M
Once
we
have
identified
this
equity
issue,
we
also
started
to
think
bigger
picture
about
the
upcoming
renegotiation
of
our
trash
and
recycling
contract
and
the
services
that
come
with
that
and
the
fact
that
the
whole
rate
system
is
quite
complex
and
we
want
to
be
very
thoughtful
about
the
repercussions
of
any
rate
changes
right
now,
not
only
in
terms
of
the
projected
revenue.
That's
back
on
track
right
now,
but
we
know
that
in
general,
if
we
were
to.
A
F
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
good
job
with
summation
appreciate
that,
although
I
must
say
I'm
glad
that
the
demonstration
I
shared
with
you
was
it
two
weeks
ago,
I
believe
was
not
a
lesson
I
was
delivering
at
athens
high
school
when
dr
david
liggett
came
in
to
evaluate
to
my
class,
because
I
think
he
would
have
given
me
a
failing
grade
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
what
I
was
trying
to
focus
on
was
one
issue
and
one
issue
only,
and
that
issue
is
the
issue
of
equity
and
the
disparity
disparity
that
we
have
between
a
homeowner
who
puts
out
one
can
of
trash
and
a
renter
who
puts
out
one
can
of
trash.
F
The
the
difference
is,
you
know,
only
seven
dollars,
but
seven
dollars
is
seven
dollars
and
over
one
year
that's
84..
Over
five
years,
that's
400
over
10
years,
that's
800!
F
F
I
asked
a
magistrate
in
northern
ohio
about
this.
A
person
I've
known
for
a
very,
very,
very
long
time
and
I
said,
isn't
this
discrimination
and
I
was
advised
no,
it
is
not
discrimination
because
renters
are
not
a
protected
class,
but
the
magistrate
said
to
me:
if
you
were
standing
before
me,
I
think
you
would
have
a
very
difficult
time
convincing
me
why
a
renter
should
pay
more
than
a
homeowner
for
the
same
amount
of
garbage.
F
That
was
the
point
I
was
trying
to
get
across.
What's
happened.
Is
we've
got
off
into
things
such
as
discussing
the
contract
size
of
cans?
I
think
president
nisly
mentioned
that
two
weeks
ago
we've
been
talking
about
that
off
and
on
for
three
years,
and
maybe
a
standardized
can
composting
a
huge
issue
which
mr
newman
spoke
to
us
quite
eloquently
about
two
weeks
ago.
F
All
I'm
really
focusing
on
at
this
point
in
time
is
the
disparity
and
the
rates
between
a
renter
and
a
homeowner,
a
an
equity
issue,
those
other
things
are
complex
and
I
agree
100
percent
with
mr
mccarry
that,
yes,
we
need
to
start
looking
at
those
and
mr
stone
too.
I
believe
we
need
to
start
looking
at
those
sooner
rather
than
later,
as
we
move
towards
that
july,
2023
date
for
the
new
contract,
but
I'd
like
to
separate
the
two,
the
disparity,
the
inequity.
I
think
we
can
address
very
clearly
and
very
quickly
the
others.
F
F
F
Why
now
most
people,
in
my
opinion,
don't
even
know
this
in
fact
in
walking
the
neighborhood
with
my
dog
on
a
daily
basis.
I
talk
to
the
constituents
and
I
ask
them
about
this
scenario
and
they
said
well.
Where
does
that
happen?
I
said
right
here
in
athens,
ohio
and
the
response.
Is
you
got
to
be
kidding
me,
but
I
wasn't
I'm
not
kidding
and
then,
of
course,
why
me?
Let
me
tell
you
a
very
short
story:
back
in
1981,
I
started
coaching
volleyball
at
athens,
high
school
girls,
volleyball
team.
F
I
was
teaching
out
there
at
the
time
too.
I
had
the
reserve
team
and
the
varsity
team
by
myself
no
assistant
coach
at
all.
Even
though
the
boys
football
team
had
six
coaches,
we
would
practice
24
girls
we'd
go
to
a
match.
We'd
have
the
first
match
reserves
would
play
match,
is
over
and
immediately
had
to
turn
my
attention
to
the
varsity.
F
What
drove
the
point
home
was
in
the
second
year
where
we
had
the
same
scenario,
and
we
were
down
at
southern
high
school
in
meigs,
county
heck
of
a
match
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
back
and
forth
12
to
12
in
the
third
game.
That's
when
you
had
to
serve
to
serve
to
score
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
start
hearing.
F
F
F
I
didn't
want
to
walk
over
there
a
very,
very
simple
formula
and
again
we're
not
taking
action
tonight
by
any
means,
but
this
could
possibly
be
the
basis
for
an
ordinance
if
you
will
follow
down
the
left-hand
side
right
now.
We
classify
one's
rate
by
residence.
We
divide
it
into
owner
and
renter,
so
an
owner
who
puts
out
one
can
currently
pays
three
15.23
a
month
that
includes
a
recycling,
a
renter
who
puts
out
one
can
because
they're
a
renter
puts
out
twenty
pays.
F
Twenty
two
dollars
and
five
cents,
and
you
can
read
on
down
two
owner-
puts
out
two
twenty
five
that
are
all
the
way
down.
So
you
have
the
number
of
cans
there
on
the
left.
F
The
current
rates
what's
interesting
and
mr
delock
is
here
tonight
ray
brought
up
an
interesting
point
two
weeks
ago,
which
I
am
fully
in
in
agreement
with,
when
you
get
down
to
two
three
four
and
five
cans,
the
incremental
increase
from
two
cans
to
three
three
to
four
four
to
five
is
so
small.
There
is
no
incentive
to
put
out
less
trash.
F
So
what
this
would
do
is
eliminate
the
number
of
cans
based
on
resonance,
so
you
go
down
to
the
third
line.
One
can
current
rate
would
be
1523,
whether
you're,
whether
you're
an
owner
or
a
renter.
The
new
rate
would
be
the
same:
two
cans
2205,
whether
you're
a
renter
or
a
or
a
homeowner,
three
cans
would
increase,
four
cans
would
increase
and
five
cans
would
increase
in
the
column.
F
Mark
customer
are
the
number
of
customers
that
we
currently
have,
and
a
couple
of
these
are
estimates
based
on
the
figures
that
I
got
from
mr
riggs
and
from
mr
chicky.
Our
system
is
such
as
tough
to
distinguish
in
some
cases,
but
these
are
estimates.
Currently
we
have
870
homeowners
who
put
out
one
can.
F
F
F
So
if
the
amount
that
they're
being
charged
is
commensurate
with
the
increase
from
one
can
to
two
cans
for
the
three
can
folks,
we
would
increase
revenue
by
sixteen
thousand
six
hundred
and
ninety
one
dollars:
four
cans:
three,
nine,
eight,
seven
and
five
cans.
Three
thousand
sixty
four
combine
those
figures
and
it
would
cost
the
city
51
878
over
a
12
month
period.
F
A
C
Thank
you,
president.
Thank
you,
mr
swank
member
swank,
for
starting
this
discussion.
I
think
it's
always
good
when
we
take
a
close
look
at
at
code
and
certainly
the
fees
for
the
city
of
athens.
My
only
concern
here
is
in
the
way
we
are
describing
this
discrepancy.
C
It
is
not
about
whether
you
are
a
homeowner
or
you
are
a
renter.
The
rates
are
based
on
one
can
or
two
cans.
It's.
It
is.
If
you
are
a
homeowner
and
you
have
two
cans,
then
you're
paying
the
same
rate
as
a
renter
with
two
cans.
The
distinction-
and
I
think
it's
good-
that
we
discuss
this
and
work
this
out-
is
that
we,
the
renters,
are
automatically
put
on
the
two
can
rate.
That
is
the
difference,
not
that
we
have
decided
that
renters
are
lesser
people
or
there's.
C
C
I
think
the
assumption
is
you
know
when
I
look
at
a
lot
of
rental
units
around
the
city
is
that
they
they
tend
to
have
overflowing
trash
cans
on
on
pickup
day,
so
it
it
would
appear
to
me
that
that
there
is
enough
waste
being
generated,
that
two
cans
are
almost
of
a
necessity.
C
Now
I
I
agree
with
you
that
we
should
incentivize
throwing
away
less
trash
and
doing
more
recycling
and
more
composting.
So
I
think
rural
action
had
sort
of
discussed
pay
as
you,
mr
newman,
what
does
it
pay
as
you?
Throw?
Basically
is
you
pay
for
what
you
were
throwing
away
and-
and
I
understand
that-
I
think
it
again-
it's
complicated
as
long
as
I've
been
on
city
council,
we
have
proprietary
funds
such
as
garbage.
C
I
believe
that
the
the
city
administration,
I
think
city
council
has
long
agreed-
should
pay
for
themselves
that
we
shouldn't
be
subsidizing
with
general
fund
or
other
monies
to
pay
our
garbage
bill.
We
should
try
to
work
it
out
with
the
city
code
office
with
the
city
administration,
to
set
the
fees
so
that
we
are
all
paying
what
we
need
to
pay
for
our
for
our
solid
waste
contract
collection
services.
I
realize
it's
complicated,
but
my
biggest
concern
is
that
we
spread
to
the
public
that
it's
about
whether
you're
a
renter
or
a
homeowner.
C
C
J
I
appreciate
member
carl's
comments
as
far
as
the
it
is.
It
is
based
on
the
number
of
cans,
with
the
caveat
that
a
renter
has
not
been
given
the
option
to
reduce
their
their
term
to
one
can
of
service,
and
it
used
to
be
that
the
the
city
utility
bill
was
in
the
name
of
often
in
the
name
of
the
renter,
and
so
those
would
change
nearly
every
year,
and
it
is
now
that
all
rental
unit,
the
utility
bills,
are
kept
in
the
name
of
the
property
owner.
J
They
they
don't
change
every
year,
however,
and
so
some
landlords
pay
the
city
utilities
and
some
have
the
the
water
sewer
trash
bill
sent
to
the
occupant
of
of
the
dwelling.
But
what
I
wonder
about
is
the
tracking
and
the
documentation,
and
who-
and
at
what
point
can
someone
say
I
would
like
to
switch
from
a
two
can
contract
to
a
one
can
and
then
on
the
other
side
of
that?
J
Are
we
then
asking
the
folks
who
pick
up
to
keep
track,
of
which
addresses
are
permitted
to
put
out
one
can
versus
two
cans
and
who
keeps
track
of
that
as
member
crowl
stated
often,
and
it
is
certainly
not
entirely
consistent,
but
often
you
will
see
very
full
to
nearly
overflowing
trash
cans
at
rental
residences,
and
so
I
just
wonder
about
sort
of
the
the
record
keeping
who
keeps
track
of
how
many
cans
each
place
is
allowed
to
put
out
when
it
comes
to
pick
up
mourning
and-
and
I
think
that
that
that
could
create
some
additional
complications,
and
I
would
wonder
about
changing
that
mid
contract.
J
If,
if
we
are
expecting
our
service
provider
to
to
change
what
they
are
doing,
what
they
are
looking
at
when
they
are
collecting
the
garbage.
I
would
question
whether
we
could
fairly
do
that.
Mid-Contract.
M
You
I'll
be
brief.
I
was
just
looking
for
some
guidance
in
our
athens
2040
plan
with
regard
to
what
our
long-term
goals
with
recycling
and
waste
and
didn't
see
much
there
other
than
a
indication
that
we
want
to
continue
with
the
implementation
of
our
athens
sustainability
action
plan
and
there
there
are
two
points
that
I
think
are
relevant.
Residents
are
incentivized
to
divert
materials
from
the
landfill
was
one
goal
of
where
we
should
be
heading.
M
So
I
appreciate
those
two
things
and
hope
that
we
will
keep
them
in
mind
as
we're
having
these
discussions,
but
also
I
see
that
we
are
regularly
acknowledging
that
this
is
something
that
we'd
like
to
change.
So
it
seems
like
a
matter
of
when,
and
with
that
in
mind,
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
hear
from
our
administration
about
the
consequences
and
concerns
that
they
have
given
that
our
council
just
recently
approved
the
rates
that
are
in
effect
at
the
end
of
last
term.
D
I
think
these
are
each
of
everybody
who
has
commented
so
far
has
brought
up
really
important
points,
and
I
think
it's
it's
worth
an
important
discussion
now
as
well
as
we
go
forward
with
equity
in
mind.
But
you
know,
I
think
one
of
my
concerns
was,
as
member
grace
said,
how
do
you
keep
track
of
that?
What's
being
done
now,
if
there's
overflow
and
whatever,
how
do
they
keep
track
of
that?
So
what's
the
job
of
the
collectors
and
how
would
this
impact
them
if,
at
all,.
A
Even
is
the
city
of
dublin
operates,
you
buy
tags
or
upper
arlington.
Does
you
buy
tags
if
you
got
one
bag,
you
put
one
tag
on.
You've
got
two
bags.
You
put
two
tags
on
so
that
would
make
you
know
as
possibility,
but
that's
not
right
now.
I
don't
think
that
we're
looking
at
it
other
comments
from
council
members.
E
You
know
just
a
couple
brief
comments.
I
will
get
the
answers
related
to
how
how
you
switch,
how
you
make
the
request.
E
I
know
that
you
asked
that
I
believe
it's
three
months
with
one
you
know
with
one
can
and
then
you
can
make
the
request,
but
I
don't
want
to
definitively
say
that
so
I'll
get
that
answer
also
talking
about
tracking
at
the
location,
it
is
the
the
people
who
pick
up
and
ultimately,
if
there's
a
if
you're
on
the
one
can
rate
and
you
get
a
second
can
for
a
particular
week,
you
get
charged
an
additional
fee
associated
with
that
for
putting
out
extra.
You
know.
E
You
know
we
want
to
set
our
rates
in
order
to
incentivize
people
to
generate
less
waste,
and
that's
that's
important
from
the
point
that
member
mccurry
indicated
from
our
sustainability
plan
that
that's
always
how
we
wanted
incentivize,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
cost,
it's
two
guys
in
a
truck
showing
up
at
your
house
every
week
to
get
your
trash,
not
in
the
volume
that
you
take
to
the
landfill.
E
E
So
you
know
I,
I
guess
that's
important
as
we
go
forward
and
we
look
to
mess
with
these
to
recognize
that
you
know
getting
a
pickup
at
a
house
whether
it's
a
rental
or
a
or
an
owner-occupied
house.
Every
week,
52
weeks
a
year
is
really
where
the
costs
are
are
driven
from.
So
but
all
of
these
points,
and
certainly
this
proposal,
you
know
we
can
go
back
and
analyze
and
and
look
at
what
what
the
results
would
be
from
that.
A
Councilman
mayor
patterson,
did
you
have
some
comments?
I
don't
auditor
hacked.
N
N
I
am
not
and
have
never
been
in
favor
of
using
any
kind
of
general
obligation
dollars.
It's
a
horrible
business
practice.
I've
seen
many
cities
over
the
years
get
in
trouble
for
doing
that
subsidizing.
We
have
an
obligation
to
charge
for
the
services
and
water
sewer
garbage
and
the
parking
garage
to
pay
for
themselves
and
to
not
subsidize
them,
and
so
that's
that
part
of
it
and
andy
kind
of
addressed
the
fact
that
anytime
you're,
a
new
customer
you're
put
on
the
two
can
rates,
and
I
can
name
off
the
top
of
my
head.
N
Three
women
who
moved
across
town
single
women
who
had
been
on
one
can
and
they
signed
them
up
for
two
can
rates
to
begin
with,
and
maybe
it's
changed.
I
hope
it
has,
but
at
the
time
they
had
to
wait
a
full
year
paying
the
two
can
rate
to
show
that
they
only
ever
use
one
can.
Then
they
could
request
to
get
back
on.
N
The
one
can
rate
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
renter
or
landowner
or
property
owner,
so
that
that's
just
been
a
practice
until
we
can
see,
and
the
other
thing
and
ed
can
probably
help
with
this-
is
our
the
people
who
pick
up
our
garbage
have
handhelds,
where
they
track
that
that's
how
they
track.
N
If
you
have
extra
things
out
there
like,
if
you
have
a
chair
or
anything
extra
out
there,
they
track
that
and
you
get
charged
for
that,
and
so
that's
how
they
track
all
that
and
whether
you're
supposed
to
be
on
a
one
or
two
and
then,
when
you
get
billed
that's
how
you
get
billed
for
an
extra
can
or
a
bag
if
you
lay
it
out
there
so
and
one
other
thing
I
want
to
say,
is
I'm
not
in
favor
of
doing
bags
ever.
We
have
way
too
many
critters
in
in
town
that.
N
A
few
that's
true,
our
garbage
is
picked
up
very
early
and
I
feel
like
we're
kind
of
just
on
our
way.
In
from
you
know,
we
must
be
the
beginning
of
the
route,
and
so
we
put
our
trash
out
the
night
before
and
it
has
to
be
in
a
can
with
a
lid
and
it's
because
sometimes
they
even
knock
over
the
cans,
and
things
like
that,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
back
to
that
ever.
Thank
you.
F
I'm
still
laughing
about
the
critters.
That's
good
couple
things.
F
F
There's
no
parole,
there's
no
get
out
of
jail
free
you're
in
there
as
long
as
you
rent-
and
I
think
we
may
underestimate
the
number
of
rental
families
that
we
have
in
this
town
who
stay
in
the
same
house
for
two
five,
seven
years,
that
current
thing
for
turn
pertains
to
one
to
three
people
in
a
house:
renters
they're,
the
toucan
rate.
F
So,
yes,
you
are
in
charge
if
you're
a
renter
for
two
cans.
If
there
are
one
to
three
people
on
the
rental
permit-
and
you
can't
get
out
of
that
glad
to
hear
yes,
they
do
track.
We
already
have
a
tracking
system,
so
I
really
don't
think
it's
any
big
deal,
one
or
two
cans,
some
actually
have
it
mounted.
I
called
every
city
in
southeast
ohio
and
some
actually
have
it
mounted
on
the
dashboard
of
the
the
garbage
truck
and
it's
gps
activated.
F
F
F
If
that's
where
the
majority
of
the
cost
in
the
contract
is
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
contract,
we've
already
changed
rates
once
there'll
be
no
problem,
changing
again
we're
already
in
the
middle
of
a
contract.
We've
already
changed
it
once
back
in
december.
Do
it
again
as
for
moving
funds
around
in
december,
we
moved
sixty
thousand
dollars
into
the
garbage
fund.
We've
already
done
it
now
we
want
to
get
in
the
habit
of
doing
it.
F
F
F
What
did
we
do?
Sometimes?
They
would
come
to
us
and
negotiate
with
us.
We
had
a
long-term
relationship
with
those
folks,
and
you
know
what
we'll
reduce
your
bill
a
little
bit
this
year,
because
you
know
what
we
hope
to
continue
that
relationship
in
the
fall.
We've
never
even
talked
about
possibly
sitting
down
with
our
current
vendor
if
we
find
ourselves
short
and
negotiating
a
little
bit.
F
Sadly,
when
we
negotiated
that
contract
in
the
first
place,
it
was
based
on
the
number
of
customers
and
not
what
we're
putting
in
the
landfill.
Well,
not
only
do
we
have
fewer
customers
now,
but
we
have
lot
less
trash
because
of
the
decline
in
enrollment
at
ohio
university.
In
2016
there
were
18
266
students
at
ou.
F
So
again,
looking
at
equity
and
one
simple
part
of
this
homeowners
and
renters,
if
they
put
out
one,
can
of
trash
only
being
charged
for
one
can
of
trash
without
two,
regardless
of
your
situation,
you
get
charged
for
two
all
this
other
stuff.
Yes,
it's
complicated,
it
could
take
a
while.
But
let's
talk
about
that
for
the
next
contract.
N
I
just
think
everybody
should
know
we
actually
last
year
transferred
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
garbage
fund
and
we
used
karezak
money
for
that
karzak
and
arpa
money.
Our
new
slrf
money,
whatever
it
is,
is
not
available
for
those
kinds
of
expenses
just
for
the
record,
but
that's
all
part
of
the
reason
that
we
increase
the
rates
for
this
year
and
it
looks
like
now.
We
expect
to
be
in
the
black
based
on
the
race
that
we
have
now
and
no
more
transfers
into
the
garbage
funds.
E
Safe
as
a
follow-up
to
the
auditor's
point
about
the
shortfall
that
was
in
the
garbage
fund,
you
know
we
talked
about
this.
You
know
last
time,
but
for
the
new
council
members,
you
know
a
significant
portion
of
that
shortfall
wasn't
just
from
volume
of
trash,
but
it
was
in
tickets.
E
So
you
know
about
half
of
the
shortfall
came
from
tickets
associated
with
the
solid
waste
inspectors
issuing
violations
and
when
the
city
vacated
because
of
kovid
there
were
no
violations,
which
is
a
good
thing.
I
mean
that's,
that's
where
you
want
to
be,
but
you
know
when
you're
you
know
you're
operating
with
those
expenses
in
place,
you
you
know
wow.
Now
we
see
there's
more
trash
and
and
litter
happening
again
as
we
yeah
as
we
get
back
to
normal
life.
So.
A
Thanks
for
the
conversation
and
discussion,
so
where
I
sense
from
this
going
on,
is
we
have
a
proposal
from
council
member
swank
on
one
idea
on
what
we
might
do
to
what
he
is
regarding
as
an
inequitable
situation,
and
I
would
but
I
also
acknowledge
that
we're
working
within
a
contract
period.
A
I
know
council
member
swank
you've
noted
that
we
have
already
raised
the
rates
once,
but
we
do
need
to
operate
within
our
limited
means
with
auditor
hector
acknowledging
the
money
that
was
there
before
for
a
bail,
not
a
bailout,
but
a
help
in
a
deficit.
There
is
not
available
with
the
new
federal
funds
and
that
this
current
proposal
would
be
a
50
000
subsidy
with
these
new
rates.
But
I
would
urge
us
to
continue
in
the
discussion
and
to
work
with
administration
and
to
see
ways.
We
might
do
this.
A
You
know
work
see
if
there
is
something
in
between,
but
I
need
to
have
an
assurance
that
it
needs
to
work
through
the
auditor's
office,
the
city
administration,
and
it
would
need
to
be
approved
by
the
law
director
before
anything
would
come
before
a
committee
of
the
whole
and
that
all
needs
to
happen
before
it
would
even
become
before
committee
of
the
whole
for
consideration
of
some
kind
of
solution
to
it.
A
K
A
J
Thank
you,
president
nicely.
We
just
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
for
this
committee
that
I
believe
will
be
considerably
faster
than
the
two
items
from
the
previous
committee.
J
The
first
item
is
regarding
the
sunday
creek
horizons:
consulting
and
development
of
a
potential
remote
work
system
for
and
with
the
city
of
athens,
in
consideration
of
a
a
business
opportunity,
development
at
our
armory
site-
and
we
have
heard
from
sunday
creek
horizons
in
past
and
had
a
an
agreement
with
them
that
covered
a
six-month
time
period
and
that
either
just
expired
or
is
expiring
at
the
end
of
this
month.
J
We're
very
close
to
the
the
end
of
that
agreement
with
sunday
creek
horizons,
and
they
would
like
to
extend
their
contract
with
the
city
of
athens
to
continue
doing
further
work
for
us
on
this
project.
J
J
But
two
weeks
from
tonight
we
will
be
hearing
from
zacharias
of
sunday
creek
with
a
presentation
where
he
will
provide
us
with
information
on
what
they
have
accomplished
on
behalf
of
the
city
thus
far
and
what
they
would
hope
to
be
able
to
do
in
a
continuation
of
that
relationship.
J
So
we're
bringing
this
up
to
say
we
would
like
to
sort
of
get
the
process
started
so
that
if,
after
hearing
from
sunday
creek
horizons,
we
agree
that
it
is
a
good
opportunity
and
a
good
partnership
for
the
city
that
we'll
be
in
a
position
to
to
move
that
forward
in
in
a
timely
manner.
Does
the
administration
have
anything
that
they
would
like
to
add
to
that
description
before
I
open
it
up
to
to
questions
I'd.
G
Like
to
add
just
real,
quick
and
then
director,
stone
is
gonna,
we'll
take
a
deeper
dive.
Mr
rises
has
been
told
that
he
has
10
minutes
in
which
to
present
to
city
council,
yes,
and
we
will
hold
him
to
those
10
minutes
I'll.
E
So,
along
those
lines
he's
going
to
provide
documents
in
advance
for
council
members
so
that
he
doesn't
have
to
present
as
much
you
know,
there'll
be
some
background
information.
I
am
going
to
request,
probably
around
45
000
and
to
go
towards
this
from
a
couple
different
funds
and
I
got
to
decide
which
funds
specifically
are
most
appropriate.
E
I
think
we're
gonna
have
some
discussion
tomorrow
at
the
finance
and
personnel
mayor
auditor
meeting
about
what
are
the
appropriate
pathways
for
that
for
the
type
of
work
that
they
would
do
over,
probably
the
next
four
to
six
months
and
then
and
then
we
would
request
to
start
that
reading
next
week
and
then
you
can
decide
based
upon
zack's
presentation
whether
or
not
he's
worth
it.
You
know.
C
Thank
you.
Member
grace.
I
was
able
to
have
lunch
with
mr
rises
longer
than
10
minutes,
but
that
was
okay.
It
was
lunch
and
you
know
he's
very
optimistic
about
the
work
that
sunday
creek
might
be
able
to
do
in
the
in
the
state
of
ohio's
sort
of
political
arena
to
secure
some
funding
for
the
armory
and.
C
I
think
that's
exciting.
I
mean
I
I
am.
There
are
a
number
of
constituents
in
my
ward
long
time,
residents
of
the
city
of
athens
who
the
day
I
was
elected
to
city
council,
penned
me
a
handwritten
letter
saying
that
the
most
important
thing
to
them
was
the
armory
and
I've
kept
in
touch
with
those
residents
and.
C
I
I
think
that
the
the
the
presentation
we'll
have
from
sunday
creek
will
be.
You
know,
quality
presentation
that
will
excite
council.
I
am,
I
think,
they're
the
right
organization
to
continue
to
take
this
project
forward.
I
I
did
not
talk
any
dollars
with
mr
o'reilly,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
ask
is
going
to
be.
It
sounds
like
from
the
city
administration,
forty
five
thousand
dollars.
I
think
they're
well
well,
positioned.
I
think
it's
an
organization
that
is.
C
You
know
well
structured
from
its
staff
and
the
and
its
connections
in
the
in
the
state
of
ohio
in
order
to
help
us
move
this
project
forward.
I
don't
have
any
questions.
Member
grace
I'll
just
say
that
I'm
supportive
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
and
possibly
continuing
to
do
for
us.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
Member
crawl
right
there
any
questions
at
this
point,
other
members
of
council.
Yes,
mr
zip.
H
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
grace.
Not
to
to
just
you
know,
paddle
on
and
repeat
everything
that
member
crowd
just
said,
but
I
also
was
lucky
enough
to
have
a
sit
down
of
about
an
hour
with
with
mr
rises
the
other
day
he
managed
to
carve
that
chunk
out
of
his
remarkably
busy
schedule.
His
calendar
is
terrifying
to
look
at,
but
yeah
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
he
was
talking
about
is,
I
think,
very,
very
exciting.
I
I
also
just
like,
like
member
crowd,
was
saying
I
was.
H
I
was
really
really
excited
about
a
lot
of
the
possibilities
he
was
talking
about
with
you
know,
with
potential
funding
access
from
different
points
of
the
ohio
government
yeah,
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
go
with
an
open
mind
for
you
know.
Potentially,
if
we
decided
to
give
them
more
money,
I
they
seem
to
have
some
really
great
ideas
on
how
we
could
revamp
the
armory.
So.
K
F
Stone
if
you
could
as
much
information
as
we
could
get
prior
to
that
meeting,
particularly
documented
documentable
successes,
progress
would
be
great
and
then
the
second
question
is
this
contract
that
we
might
be
entering
into.
How
long
will
that
be
for
six
months,
just
six
months,
six
months.
M
J
Yeah
we've
had
a
six
month
contract
with
them
that,
I
believe,
was
thirty
thousand
dollars,
and
the
ask
is
for
forty,
five
thousand
for
another
six
months.
J
G
I
think
it's
council
is
well
aware.
You
know
I've
been
at
this
for
the
armory
since
2011,
really
when
I
was
a
newly
elected
or
soon
to
be
sworn
in
city
council
member,
I
was
also
the
one
working
with
chris
fall
to
establish
the
armory
ad
hoc
committee
to
where
we
were
meeting
monthly
to
kind
of
discuss
what
the
army
could
become
and
what
funding
opportunities
are
out
there
in
that
10
plus
years.
G
You
know,
I
think
that
this
is
the
closest
that
we
have
come
to
having
the
armory
become
a
functional
facility
open
to
the
public
and
a
usable
building
at
that
with
a
co-work
share
workspace.
So
to
that
end,
a
lot
of
that
credit,
if
not
all
that
credit
goes
to
sunday
creek
horizons,
for
what
they've
been
able
to
establish
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
In
that
six
months,
I
will
say
to
council
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
be
looking
at
is
getting
into
the
capital
budget.
G
In
order
to
do
that,
you
have
to
have
buy-in
from
your
state
representative
as
well
as
your
state
senator
at
least
you've
got
to
have
someone
who's
going
to
be
the
champion
to
get
that
across
the
finish
line
and
again,
I
believe
we
see
a
path
forward
with
that
as
well.
G
G
G
You
know
all
of
the
military
members
who
have
left
there,
which
would
include
world
war,
one
world
war
ii,
korean
conflict,
vietnam
and
all
the
way
up
to
1997,
to
which
is
the
point
in
time
to
where
the
guard
the
ohio
guard
sold
it
to
the
city
of
athens.
We
have
been
the
stewards
of
that
building
since
that
time
we
have
put
over
230
000
into
preservation
of
that
building.
The
building
envelope
is
75
percent.
G
You
know
sealed
up.
We
do
have
windows
that
thank
you,
council,
for
authorizing
the
expenditure
for
new
windows
for
the
armory.
Those
windows
made
it
to
gallopolis,
hopefully
they'll-
be
here
soon,
but
we'll
be
slowly
replacing
the
windows
for
the
armory
that'll
complete
the
building
envelope.
It's
got
a
new
roof
on
it,
or
at
least
a
2006
roof.
The
asbestos
has
been
removed.
G
G
I've
had
conversations
with
council,
one
of
the
things
that
I
see
being
very
appropriate
to
continue
to
spur
this
project
along
is
to
use
about
300
500
000
of
our
arpa
money
to
go
into
restoring
at
least
the
lower
level.
Of
course,
that's
going
to
require
city
council's
approval
to
to
use
our
arpa
monies
or
portion
of
it
for
this
particular
project,
but
again
my
point
to
to
kind
of
just
abbreviate
everything
again
in
my
ten
years
of
working
on
this
building.
J
J
Held
priority
for
for
many
in
the
city
to
find
a
valuable
use
for
the
armory
and
and
as
the
mayor
has
outlined,
I
and
member
crowl
and
members
of
have
also
stated
it.
It
feels
that
sunday
creek
has
made
some
good
progress
and
is
is
well
positioned
to
continue
to
move
this
forward
are
there
and
we
will
hear
details
from
them
in
two
weeks,
but
in
10
minutes
any
any
other
comments
or
questions.
J
J
Moving
on
to
the
next
item,
it
is
a
a
couple
of
changes
to
athens
city
code,
title
33,
the
section
that
outlines
the
membership
of
the
shady
commission,
and
there
was
a
discrepancy
in
the
listing
of
the
number
of
members
in
our
our
ordinance.
It
currently
reads
or
our
city
code.
There
is
hereby
established
a
shade
tree
commission
consisting
of
seven
members
and
two
alternates,
and
the
ordinance
would
strike
the
word
and
and
insert
including
so
it
would
be
consisting
of
seven
members,
including
two
alternates.
J
So
that
is
the
first
change
and
then
the
other
change
is
to
strike
a
gender
specific
language.
J
J
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
regarding
that,
if
not
from
other
members
of
council
administration
or
the
audience
it's
just
free
for
all
now,
okay,
we.
That
concludes
this
committee
for
this
evening.
Thank
you.
A
F
B
Okay,
transportation
committee
comes
to
order,
there's
only
two
bullet
items
here:
safe
routes
to
school
funds,
application
to
odot.
B
So
is
there
anything
more
to
add.
When
does
the
application
do.
E
It's
it's
very
soon.
It's
march
4th
it's
due
so
ultimately
I'll
be
asking
for
this
to
to
be
suspended
at
some
point
before
that
that
and
ultimately
this
just
allows
us
to
apply
correct.
B
E
Know
we've
had
a
lot
of
success
with
this
program,
particularly
early
it
rolled
out
really
in
the
2009
field,
910
era,
and
the
idea
is
to
improve
walkability
and
bike
ability,
but
primarily
walkability
for
students,
attending
k-8
schools
and
so
there's
a
series
of
criteria
associated
with
the
projects
can't
be
used
for
repairs.
Gotta
be
used
for
new
construction
to
improve
infrastructure
that
currently
doesn't
exist.
E
That
would
support
walking
and
biking
to
school
k-38
school,
and
so
you
know
we
we
we
got
funded
for
about
the
first
five
years
and
then
you
know,
basically
that
told
us
athens,
you've
got
enough.
You
know
some
other
communities
need
a
chance.
Well,
you
know
it's
kind
of
come
back
around
that
that
they
said.
Okay
happens,
come
again
and
we're
ready
to
apply,
and
I
think
we
probably
could
have
some
success.
E
It
can
the
safe
routes
to
school
program,
and
we
have
not
had
success
with
that.
In
the
first
year
we
were
awarded
five
thousand
dollars
as
the
and
the
city
of
athens
being
the
fiscal
agent
and
that
five
thousand
dollars
was
to
pay
for
a
crossing
guard
program
at
east
elementary
school
and
at
the
time
the
principal
at
east,
elementary
school
just
didn't,
have
the
bandwidth
to
to
manage
and
and
hire
and
then
to
allow
the
city
to
give
them
five
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
crossing
guards
at
that
school.
E
So
there
is
a
provision
to
allow
for
some
programming
like
whether
it
be
crossing
guards
or
or
what
are
those
called
the
there's
a
term
for
that,
like
a
walking
school
bus
like
where
everyone
you
know
gathers
together
in
a
group
and
a
parent
like
walks,
a
whole
bunch
of
kids
to
school,
like
in
funding
associated
with
that
and
other
such
matters
to
improve
walking
biking.
That
program
allows
for
that.
E
L
L
B
J
I
know
that
the
school
does
have
a
crossing
guard
they're
at
the
the
light
on
east
state
street
nearest
east
elementary
yeah
verona,
there's
because
I
see
them
out
there
in
the
mornings
before
school.
G
G
Any
element
of
the
project
has
to
be
within
two
miles
of
the
school
itself,
so
that's
something
to
be
mindful
of,
and
then
it's
also
you
have
to
demonstrate
the
number
of
students
you
know
by
address
that
are,
you
know,
going
to
be
using
said
infrastructure,
as
it
goes
in
to
the
point
about
the
the
crossing
guard
at
verona,
the
traffic
signal
at
verona,
as
well
as
the
sidewalk
that
was
a
safe
routes
to
school
project,
as
were
the
stairs
at
west
elementary.
B
G
And
a
number
of
other
projects
that
have
gone
on
around
the
city,
so
we
we've
used
that
program
well,
I
believe,
but
we'll
certainly
bring
this
up
at
the
sidewalk
ad
hoc
committee
and
talk
about
the
the
potential
projects
that
we
have
scoped
out
and
also
ears
open
to
any
other
potential
projects
during
that
meeting.
So.
J
G
So
let
me
share
with
you:
madison
we've
tried
twice
already
with
madison
the
problem
with
madison
and
putting
the
sidewalk
in
aside
from
the
slope
and
the
the
right-of-way
that
we
have
there
is
that
it
didn't
ever
score
well
because
of
the
number
of
individuals
who
would
be
using
that
the
the
counts
just
weren't
there
to
capture
you
know,
you
know
anybody
coming
off
of
briarwood.
G
You
know
columbia
and
northwood,
it
just
didn't
add
up.
E
It's
a
you
know:
we've
tried
a
couple
times
now.
You
know
we'll
we'll
kind
of
test
the
waters
with
odot.
In
many
cases
you
know.
I
think
that
our
failure
in
the
past
is
because
there's
lots
of
people
asking
you
know
if
there's
less
people
asking
and
they're
looking
to
spend
money,
it's
possible,
it
would
be
more
competitive
with
even
you
know
not
having
very
many
potential
users
in
the
area.
B
Anything
else:
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
topic:
ohio
department,
transportation's,
cooperative,
purchasing
program
street
salt.
Again
this
is
an
ordinance
that
comes
up
about
every
year.
Last
time
was
april,
19
2021.
E
You
know
salt
price,
it's
a
big
commodity
and
you
you
do
better.
If
you
are
part
of
a
collective
purchasing
program
and
you
have
to
forecast
it
pretty
far
out,
and
so
the
high
department
transportation
will
will
bid
for
communities
if
they
want
to
participate
in
this
program,
and
we
have
for
several
years,
we've
achieved
about
as
good
of
price
as
we're
going
to
get
by
participating
in
this
program,
and
this
is
for
next
winter.
By
the
way.
B
M
Okay,
thanks
everyone.
We
have
a
first
item
up
regarding
our
fire
code.
I
believe
it's
pretty
simple.
My
understanding
is
that
we
occasionally
need
to
update
and
clarify
what
fire
code
we
are
using,
and
I
believe
director
stone
likely
has
a
comment
about
the
latest.
I
find
that
you
can
browse
it
online
if
anyone
wants
an
interesting
read,
it's
very
thorough.
E
Yeah,
so
there's
a
couple
provisions
in
title:
nine
that
talk
about
you
know
fire
safety
and
fire
protection
that
make
reference
to
ohio
fire
code
and
it
has
a
specific
year
associated
with
it.
And
I
don't
remember
if
it's
1990
or
1997.
E
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
into
it,
but
it
says
that
you
know
you
know
this.
The
city
of
athens
ultimately
will
enforce.
You
know
fire.
You
know
the
ohio
fire
code,
1990
edition
and
it's
changed
since
then,
and
what
we're
simply
asking
is
to
have
it
modified
such
it
says,
to
strike
the
year
and
just
say
the
current
fire
code.
So
as
it
changes
we're
not
having
to
revisit
this
in
the
future,
because
the
fire
chief
stays
on
top
of
that
as
ohio,
fire
crew
changes.
M
So
I
see
that
that
year
was
1990,
and
so
this
would
be
about
introducing
an
ordinance
amending
athens
city
code
title
ix
in
order
to
reflect
what
we're
actually
using
for
the
code
adopted
any
questions
from
council
members
or
committee
members.
First
sorry
and
council
members
and
administration
audience
thought
that
would
be
straightforward
all
right.
So
we
can
move
on
to
number
two.
M
Okay,
tennis
and
pickleball
courts,
design
and
construction.
That
would
be
another
update
to
figure
out
where
we're
at
with
our
project
there
and
I'll
turn
the
directors
down
again.
E
We're
asking
for
an
appropriation
and
an
authorization
of
250
thousand
dollars
for
design
construction
of
the
replacement,
tennis
courts.
That
also
would
include
outdoor
pickleball
courts.
E
The
we
currently
have
a
contract
using
existing
funds
for
design
services
and
we're
just
getting
started
with
that,
and
what
we
would
do
is
roll
that
encumbrance
into
the
overall
authorization
for
a
project,
and
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
I'm
estimating
250
000,
it's
possible
that
we
get
through
design
and
we
come
back
to
you
and
say:
hey
it's
actually
going
to
be
this
much.
I
don't
anticipate
it
being
significantly
different
than
that,
but
you
know
that's
kind
of
the
mark
on
the
wall.
We've
established
this
process
just
getting
started.
E
I
know
that
the
director
of
architecture
recreation
has
a
record
advisory
board
meeting
on
thursday
and
intends
to
solicit
input
from
rec
advisory
board
members
prior
to
her
first
meeting
with
the
design
consultant
on
friday
of
this
week,
so
that
they
influenced
that
process
with
design
specifically
about
you,
know,
location
and
attributes
and
amenities
associated
with
these
new
outdoor
facilities.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
member
mccary,
just
a
quick
question
on
timing.
I
know
that
we
have
the
the
solar
project
in
that
same
area.
Will
the
pickleball
tennis
courts
come
first.
E
Do
you
know
I
don't
and
I'd
like
to
say
that
you
know
in
the
perfect
world
we
would
be
able
to
coordinate
the
construction
between
the
two.
Certainly
design
has
to
be
coordinated
when
it
comes
to
conduit
and
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
they
don't
conflict
with
one
another.
That
said,
a
lot
of
it
will
be
a
function
of
if
we
move
forward
with
the
solar
project.
It's
a
power
purchase
agreement.
So
there's
a
there's
a
you
know.
E
We
won't
be
the
owner
for
at
least
until
we
make
a
decision
to
buy
out
that
array,
and
so
you
know
when
we
can
cross
the
finish
line
for
the
for
the
construction
of
the
array
it'll
be
on
their
timeline
versus
versus
ours.
You
know
I'd
like
to
think
I
can
both
of
them
build
in
2022,
but
I
just
don't.
I
just
don't
know.
F
Mr
stone
are
we
still
looking
at
the
preliminary
and
very,
very,
very
rough
design,
at
least
for
area
that
the
third
sun
solar
gave
us
back
on
the
the
12th
of
may
last
year,
yeah?
That
was
what
you
have
there
in
front
of
you.
E
And
again
not
a
design,
but
it
was
a
footprint
associated
with
the
deconfliction
that
member
crowd
mentioned.
F
Right
because
this
one
that
we
came
in
apr,
I
was
on
the
apr
board
at
the
time
we
talked
about
this.
It
seemed
like
every
meeting
for
about
four
months
had
actually
three
tennis
courts
and
four
pickleball
courts,
and
we
always
talk
about
bringing
people
to
town
and
all
of
that
with
those
four
pickleball
courts.
We
could
actually
host
some
smaller
tournaments
in
this
area,
where
people
would
literally
come
in
much
like
youth,
basketball
and
all
of
that,
but
that
was
how
we
came
up
with
this
configuration.
F
E
I
don't
know
specifically
about
the
configuration,
but
I
agree
with
you
that
pickleball
is
definitely
gaining
in
popularity.
You
know
my
personal
observation
at
the
community
center
is,
is
you
know
half
the
gym
is
regularly
committed
to
to
pickleball.
So
there's
a
demand
and
and
certainly
tournaments
would
be
something
that
you
know
when.
K
E
M
E
E
Like
yeah,
thank
you
and
ultimately,
this
will
be
bid,
so
it'll
be
a
series
of
design
documents
that
we'll
put
out
and
then
we'll
put
it
on
the
street
and
bid
it
for
for
construction
and
see
what
kind
of
contractors
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
specialty
thing.
You
know,
there'll
be
a
general
contractor.
That'll,
probably
do
site
work
and
then
they'll
bring
in
like
a
not
unlike
what
happened
with
the
pool
where
we
had
a
general
contractor.
F
Fact,
if
you
would
call
mark
ferguson
down
at
campus
rec,
he
could
tell
you
exactly
how
this
works,
because,
oh
you
just
went
through
this
same
process
in
resurfacing
their
courts
and
could
give
you
a
real
good
outline
of
how
this
would
work.
A
total
tennis
out
of
columbus
is
probably
the
number
one
company
in
this
area
for
doing
this
sort
of
thing.
Thank
you.
B
E
Now
you're
the
first
person
to
bring
that
up.
Member
eisner,
I
appreciate
I
gotta.
L
G
B
I
could
think
of
well
when
was
it
that
we
were
doing
crosswalks
with
bricks,
designs
and
imprints,
and
things
like
that
yeah,
that's
art,
it's
it's
on
the
ground,
it's
flat,
but
nonetheless
it's
there.
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any
other
council
members
administration,
audience
members
great.
We
look
forward
to
hearing
more
updates
about
these
projects
and
that
concludes
our
committee
meeting.
A
C
C
We,
the
city,
owes
290
000
on
its
parking
meter
purchases
and
we'd
like
to
pay
down.
Obviously,
on
that
debt,
I
believe
the
city
administration
recommends
paying
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
this
year,
and
that
is
the
item.
Is
there
any
questions
about
the
city
administration's
recommendation
to
pay
under
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
our
parking
meter
debt?
D
E
That
I
took
a
loan
to
buy
and
somebody
stole
it.
I'd
still
have
to
pay
the
person
I
took
the
loan
for
even
if
it
was
stolen.
Now
we
could
make
an
insurance
claim
if
they're
valued
at
less
than
or
more
than
five
thousand
dollars.
C
C
N
I
was
just
going
to
mention
that
this
money
comes
out
of
the
general
fund,
that's
where
parking
enforcement
is
out
of,
and
I
have
contacted
our
bond
council
dennis
schwalle
in
columbus
and
hawking
valley
bank.
I
have
do
not
have
an
interest
rate
just
yet,
but
I'll
let
you
know
as
soon
as
that
happens.
C
Thank
you,
auditor
guys.
B
The
auditor
question:
please
yeah:
did
you
mention
the
dennis
the
amount
for
the
the
rollover.
N
N
N
300
000
290
is
it's
not
a
huge
amount.
B
N
So
it's
it's
a
good
amount
to
pay
down
on
that
right
and,
in
reality,
we're
we're
paying
off
the
whole
note
and
getting
a
new
one.
B
N
N
C
N
C
N
They
have
excellent
and
when
I
first
started
doing
this,
I
would
call
around
and
get
interest
rates,
but
these
are
short-term
notes.
These
aren't
a
bond
like
we
got
for
to
finance
the
pool,
and
things
like
that,
and
I
would
call
around
and
actually
dennis
told
me
that
I
didn't
really
have
to
do
that
in
this,
because
we're
lucky
enough
to
have
a
local
bank,
that's
so
good
to
us.
Nobody
else
could
even
get
within
one
percent
of
what
we
pay.
You
know
what
they
charge
now.
I
have
no
idea.
N
Things
are
changing
right
now
what
it
will
be,
but
I
think
if
you
look
at
our
interest
rate
right
now,
it's
pretty
really
really
well.
I
can
look
that
up.
You
know
my
weight
in
just
a
second.
N
K
N
C
G
I
just
want
to
kind
of
reaffirm
that
I
would
like
to
pay
this
off
with
the
remainder
next
year
we
are
seeing.
You
know.
Meters
spots
used
more
heavily
these
days,
because
people
are
coming
back
and
with
the
with
the
dora
when
it
goes
active
in
may,
I
suspect
that
we're
still
going
to
see
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
during
the
summer
months
uptown
parking
on
the
street,
so
I
believe
the
revenue
is
going
to
be
there
toward
again
next
year.
C
Excellent
community
members:
okay,
moving
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
really
two
items
together,
which
is
appropriations
and
trend,
then
transferring
from
that
appropriation
city
has
received
749
thousand
483
dollars
from
the
federal
emergency
management
agency
for
things
that
have
happened
to
our
city
infrastructure
over
the
past
four
or
five
years.
C
I
believe
it
goes
back,
and
so
so
we
are
taking
this
money
and
then
we
are
transferring
it
and
the
items
are
are
listed
on
the
agenda
there
into
four
different
funds
in
the
city:
the
general
fund,
the
streets
fund,
the
water
fund
and
the
sanitary
sewer.
C
C
C
D
You
mentioned
the
the
bike
path
and
does
this
include
the
bike
path
that
ex
that
extends
to
university
of
state's
boulevard?
No
right.
E
This
is
a
these
are
expenditures
that
were
already
made
in
response
to
specific
disasters
and
the.
E
Is
that
you
basically
pay
up
front
with
your
local
funds,
and
then
they
reimburse
you
that
money
goes
into
a
set
fund
which
is
the
fema
fund,
and
then
we
have
to
basically
show
the
record-keeping
before
we're
allowed
to
to
take
this
action
you're
about
to
take,
which
is
to
go
ahead
and
take
it
out
of
that
fema
fund
and
put
it
into
a
the
fund
that
money
originally
came
out
of
so
yeah.
E
C
Question
just
for
people
taking
detailed
notes,
the
fema
grant
fund
is
588.
if
you're
wondering
where
this
money
is
going
into
and
then
the
general
fund
is,
I
think,
we're
all
aware.
101
the
streets
is
220,
water
is
740
and
sanitary
sewer
is
7.50.
That's
where
these
funds
will
end
up
in
the
city's
budget.
Other
questions,
other
members
of
council
city
administration
to
add
citizenry.