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Athens City Council - November 14, 2022
A
B
Good
evening
it's
701
Monday
November,
14th
2022..
This
is
Athens
city
council.
We
are
meeting
in
a
committee
night,
which
is
slightly
different
than
our
working
sessions.
Where
we
pass
ordinances
here
we
discuss
upcoming
legislation
and
determine
if
modifications
are
needed
and
so
on.
So
the
first
thing
I'll
have
to
do
is
establish
a
quorum
and
I
see
we
have
all
members
save
one
president
of
council,
Chris
nicely
is
acting
mayor
and,
as
present
Pro
tem
I
assume
her
duties
as
president
of
council.
B
D
B
Call
for
a
vote
all
this
in
favor
of
bending
the
agenda
say
the
five
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye.
The
agenda
has
been
changed.
Please
remind
me
that
we've
changed
it
I'm
sorry,
but
at
my
age,
I
have
a
memory
like
a
sieve,
so
yeah
come
into
the
hole
anyway.
Moving
right
along
the
Transportation
committee
will
meet
now
and
hear
from
the
ad
hoc
committee
on
pedestrian
accessibility
update.
B
B
E
Oh
good
I
was
looking
there
and
didn't
see
the
slides.
So
thank
you
to
the
transportation
committee
for
having
us
come
here
tonight
and
to
all
of
the
council
members.
This
is
The.
Pedestrian
accessibility
committee's
third
update
with
the
city
council
and
our
Focus
tonight
will
be
give
we'll
be
to
give
voice
to
the
community
input
that
we
receive
mostly
this
summer,
so
I
think
you'll
be
interested.
E
They're
more
than
meeting
Ada
standards
they're
more
than
ODOT
regulations.
We
need
to
remember
that
there's
really
a
magic
to
sidewalks
and
we
need
to
think
about
what
happens
on
sidewalks,
even
though,
and
even
though
they're
throughout
the
city,
how
invisible
they
can
be,
especially
when
they
take
you
seamlessly
and
safely
to
where
you
want
to
go.
E
That's
the
magic.
We
want
everyone
to
feel
when
they
use
our
sidewalks,
so
I
had
a
thought
actually
in
the
spring,
to
invite
Wendy,
McVicker,
Athens,
Poet,
Laureate
and
longtime
Athens
resident
to
write
a
poem
for
us
about
sidewalks,
which
she
graciously
did
and
she's
here
tonight
to
read
her
poem
entitled
sidewalks.
F
Thank
you
Diane.
This
is
because
I
love,
sidewalks
and
I
am
an
inveterate
Walker
on
sidewalks,
so
my
name
is
Wendy
McVicker,
I,
guess
I'm
supposed
to
say
that
Athens
Poet
Laureate,
this
is
sidewalks
sidewalks
bring
us
together.
Sidewalks
help
us
get
away
there,
We
Gather,
Smiles,
posies
of
wild
and
unexpected
joys.
F
F
Once
I
found
a
list
of
words
on
a
sidewalk,
a
ladder,
I
climbed
into
a
poem,
a
singer,
plucked
a
card
from
the
sidewalk
and
discovered
his
stage
name
pop-up
art
appears
Hopscotch
tiny
hand,
prints,
chalked
rainbows,
a
haiku,
a
cat
may
follow
you
home
a
new
friend,
a
wise
person.
I
know
says:
wear
the
Sidewalk
Ends
there
ends
civilization
that
place
where
our
lives
meet
and
mingle
braid,
like
currents
in
a
river
flow
together
and
apart
a
sidewalk
river.
That
brings
us
news
from
far
away
irrigates
our
world.
E
Place
where
our
lives
meet
and
mingle.
Thank
you,
Wendy
our
cherished
Athens
Poet
Laureate
for
writing
this
poem
and
for
adding
poetry
to
our
lives.
Now
I'd
like
to
give
an
overview
of
what
our
process
was
for
Gathering
Community
input.
First,
we
assigned
first
we
designed
and
implemented
sorry
I've
got
to
start
all
over.
First,
we
developed
a
space
framework
to
talk
about
to
give
everyone
sort
of
a
language
for
talking
about
sidewalks,
because
we
wanted
people
to
say
more
than
they're
broken
or
they're
fine.
E
We
wanted
really
to
understand
what
were
the
issues
that
people
were
coming
across
and
we
developed
a
qualtrics
survey
and
we
did
some.
We
passed
it
around
to
people.
We
knew,
and
also
the
disability
commission
members
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear
in
what
we
were
trying
to
ask
for
and
before
we
put
it
together,
so
we
piloted
it,
we
made
changes
and
then
we
launched
the
survey
and
I
have
to
say
that
when
we
decided
to
do
a
survey,
I
thought.
Okay.
E
If
we
get
a
hundred
responses,
I
will
be
super
happy
and
within
the
first
week
we
had
a
hundred
responses.
I
was
really
Blown
Away.
We
had
784
people
respond
to
this
survey,
I've,
never
seen
that
happen
in
any
survey
that
I've
been
a
part
of
so
I
I.
Think
in
the
end.
So
then
we
took
time
we
analyzed
the
results.
We
reviewed
what
people
said.
E
E
It
there's
a
lot
of
expectation,
there's
a
lot
of
sense
that
we
need
to
do
something
with
this,
that
we
can't
just
let
it
sit
so
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you,
as
a
committee,
were
interested
in
us
putting
this
together
and
getting
Community
feedback.
I
think
it
really
means
that
the
the
city
needs
to
be
ready
to
take
leadership
to
make
things
change.
E
So,
first
we're
going
to
have
Stephanie's
going
to
talk
about
the
space
model,
because
it
really
is
a
really
interesting
and
a
clear
way
to
try
to
think
about
how
we
work
with
sidewalks
and
then
solve.
Is
going
to
talk
about
the
data
that
we
we
found
and
then
give
a
summary
of
what
our
next
steps
are.
So
thank
you
very
much.
G
Safety
refers
to
how
secure
a
pedestrian
feels
while
navigating
the
city's
sidewalks
and
crosswalks
and
I
think
we
all
really
know
what
safety
is.
So.
Safety
can
include
things
like
the
risk
of
crossing
the
road
tripping
and
falling
the
Road
speed,
design,
driver,
behavior
and,
of
course,
sheer
pedestrian
vulnerability
and
how
we
have
designed
the
road
to
emphasize
that
or
ignore
that
went
on
the
sidewalk.
G
Of
course,
next
comes
proximity,
so
proximity
allows
pedestrians
to
reach
their
destination
in
about
15
minutes
or
three
quarters
of
a
mile,
and
this
comes
from
the
concept
of
the
15-minute
City
right
now.
Athens
is
a
15-minute
City
by
car,
so
you
can
just
get
just
about
anywhere
in
15
minutes,
but
by
walking.
How
far
can
you
go
so
this
considers?
Can
you
reach
Necessities,
like
socialization
Recreation,
public
transportation?
G
Can
you
get
to
the
grocery
store
in
a
15-minute
walk,
and
so
what
we
consider
is
various
places
around
Athens
have
huge
amounts
of
blockability
and
plenty
of
places.
Don't
so
after
proximity
comes
accessibility,
so
accessibility
allows
persons
of
all
abilities
to
use
continuous
level
and
sufficiently
wide
sidewalks
with
trinium,
radiuses
and
crosswalks
and
compliant
curb
ramps.
This
is,
if
you
have
wheels,
if
you
have
a
walker,
if
you
have
any
Mobility
device
or
health
condition,
can
you
use
our
sidewalks?
Are
they
ADA,
Compliant,
and
so
we're
talking
about
the
surface
must
be
smooth.
G
It
must
be
level
so
that
you're
not
tipping
over.
It
must
be
wide
enough.
Can
you
pass
another
person
without
going
onto
the
grass?
Are
the
curb
ramps?
There
are
the
curve
ramps
usable,
do
I
push
my
stroller
into
them
and
flip
it.
That's
a
possibility.
Are
the
slopes
too
steep?
Are
there
just
barriers
in
the
sidewalk?
Are
there
movable
barriers
like
trash
cans
and
cars,
or
are
there
things
we
can't
move
like
utility
poles
or
falling
down
retaining
walls?
Are
there
accommodations
for
people
who
have
Vision
disabilities?
G
Are
there
things
like
audible
signals?
If
you
are
deaf
Are,
you
able
to
use
our
sidewalks
so
next
comes
connection
connection
is
about
how
sidewalkspring
Community
together
physically
through
shared
pedestrian
paths
and
access
to
Transit
and
socially
as
friends
and
Neighbors.
So
when
you
use
our
sidewalks,
can
you
talk
to
your
neighbors?
Can
you
actually
like?
Are
they
connected
in
a
line?
G
G
G
Are
there
places
to
rest
along
the
way?
Can
you
sit
on
a
bench?
Is
there
a
sign
that
says
that
these
stairs
are
public
and
is
walking
a
pleasure,
or
are
you
huddling
on
the
far
edge
of
it
hoping
a
car
doesn't
come
off
and
wrap
around
you,
and
so
this
is.
This
is
our
in
our
entire
model,
and
this
is
what
we
ask
people
about.
H
All
right,
thank
you,
Stephanie,
so
as
to
wrap
up
pedestrians
need
more
space
safety,
proximity,
accessibility,
connection
and
ease
I'm
really
happy
with
this
model.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
up
that
was
primarily
theirs.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
data.
I
know
we
don't
have
very
much
time
and
I
did
give
you
the
reports,
but
I
thought
I'd
hit
the
highlights.
There
were
surveys
and
focus
groups.
H
As
Diane
essentially
said,
we
really
made
an
effort
to
try
to
have
a
methodology
that
was
going
to
be
as
scientific
as
possible
to
get
a
full
range
of
information
from
a
wide
variety
of
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
a
demographic
for
it.
So
784
participants
and
first
the
survey
alone
that
in
a
community
of
this
size
in
in
the
summertime,
was
Quite
a
feat
and
we
put
a
lot
of
effort
into
spreading
that
through
social
media,
as
well
as
through
newspapers,
the
university
getting
out
of
the
donkey
Etc.
H
So
just
quickly
about
the
demographics,
the
largest
age
group
was
between
35
and
44..
Smalls
was
75
and
over
and
the
other
cohorts
were
about
15
percent
of
the
rest
of
them.
Primarily
the
demographics
fit
fairly
well
with
the
overall
demographics
of
the
city,
so
we
felt
that
we
met
that
as
a
fairly
representative
sample.
H
H
So
we
have
a
ways
to
go
all
right,
quickly:
survey
participants
percentage
by
neighborhood,
not
surprisingly
the
near
east
side
and
the
West
Side,
had
the
biggest
pool
of
survey
participants
and
probably
because
they
have
the
most
number
of
old
sidewalks,
and
for
that
matter
the
most
number
of
sidewalks
period
actually
and
also
as
you
can.
As
you
can
see,
University
of
States
had
the
lowest.
H
We
don't
really
have
sidewalks
over
there's
one
little
sidewalk,
that's
it
but
the
rest
of
it.
They
don't
and
the
the
far
east
side
and
University
States
for
the
most
part,
really
don't
want
sidewalks.
So
that
emphasized
the
point
that
as
we
go
through
and
try
to
determine
priorities
Etc,
we
want
to
individualize
it
by
neighborhood,
so
that
we're
not
going
to
force
people
to
have
sidewalks
that
don't
want
them
as
a
small
example.
H
Okay,
again,
two
targeted
focus
groups
and
Diane
did
a
wonderful
job.
With
this
she
worked
with
the
disability
commission
to
talk
to
people
who
have
disabilities.
She
also
worked
with
the
community
center
and
interviewed
people
as
a
focus
group
for
persons
under
over
age
60,
because
those
are
the
ones
that
obviously
would
have
the
most
difficulty
navigating
our
sidewalk.
H
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
they're
happy
and
we're
following
the
ADA
compliance
that
everyone
else
is
going
to
be
satisfied
as
well,
so
they're
an
important
Target
group
and
the
the
impetus
behind
why
we
did
this
in
the
first
place.
Okay,
so
some
comments
from
Seniors
I'm
going
to
let
you
look
over
this
on
your
own,
but
essentially,
not
surprisingly,
they
felt
that
you
know
it
was
difficult
to
get
around.
People
fall
down
and
trip
on
the
bricks
Etc.
It's
it's
not
smooth
and
comfortable,
and
also
people
had
questions
about.
H
H
This
is
really
heartfelt,
I,
think
hearing
about
how
people
had
to
figure
out
a
strategy
to
get
from
where
they
lived,
where
they
were
to
the
next
place
they
wanted
to
get
to
and
knowing
that
well,
this
I
can't
go
this
sidewalk,
it
stops
and
then
I
have
to
go
out
into
the
street.
Then
I
have
to
go
this
way
and
then
I
have
to
oh
this
one
has
a
pothole
I
can't
go
there.
It
has
a
a
pole
in
the
middle
of
the
side.
H
I
can't
go
there,
so
they
had
to
plan
it
out
and
figure
out
how
they
were
going
to
get
to
where
they
wanted
to
go
well.
This
is
just
not
okay
and
also
the
curb
Cuts
I
mean
you
know
on
on
downtown.
We
have
some
really
shaky
bricks
and
no
curb
Cuts
in
areas
right
downtown.
They
need
to
do
something
about
that,
so
it
needs
to
be
smoother
flat
or
wider
and
continuous,
okay.
So
some
key
findings.
H
We
have
tilted
heaved
cracked
sidewalks,
77
percent
of
the
respondents
named
smooth
level
sidewalks
as
the
highest
accessibility
priority,
dangerous
sidewalks,
no
curb
ramps.
As
I
said,
we
have
lack
of
sufficient
crosswalks.
We
don't
have
enough
crosswalks
in
areas
like
Richland
Avenue,
West
Union,
trying
to
get
from
one
place
to
another
without
crosswalks
makes
it
very
difficult
and
not
accessible,
so
lack
of
lack
of
or
discontinuous
Pathways.
H
How
do
we
decide
where
that
goes,
and
there's
also
the
issue
of
traffic
calming
which
came
up
several
times
as
well,
but
then
there's
the
issue
of
ice
and
snow
and
things
getting
in
the
way
Greenery
Etc
and
then
how
much
are
we
going
to
emphasize
pedestrian
use
over
car
use?
And
that
was
a
theme
by
some
people?
Is
that
we've
overemphasized
car
use
and
if
we're
really
going
to
think
about
a
green
Community
which
we're
trying
to
do
as
in
I'm
so
excited
about
our
electric
Transit
bus?
H
Let's
continue
that
by
really
thinking
about
how
we
can
make
this
more
pedestrian
friendly,
then,
finally,
and
now
we're
at
the
end.
Here
we
have
to
draft
the
final
plan.
We
have
to
get
some
additional
feedback
to
make
sure
that
some
of
our
proposals
and
ideas
are
going
to
be
accepted
or
get
some
feedback
on
them.
H
We're
going
to
present
that
to
council
we're
going
to
then
finalize
the
report,
probably
the
last
little
bits
we're
going
to
try
to
get
as
much
done
for
December
and
then
I
think
we're
going
to
not
actually
have
the
report
formatted
Etc
until
January.
That's
that's
pretty
much
how
we're
seeing
it
any
questions.
I
H
I
think
that
we're
not
going
to
describe
that
in
detail
now
we
don't
have
time
and
there's
too
many
different
options.
However,
we're
being
we're
trying
to
be
very
creative,
looking
at
models
around
the
country
of
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work,
we
obviously
are
looking
at
what
the
law
says
and
we
know
what
that
is,
but
we
want
to
be
a
model
for
other
cities,
so
we
don't
want
to
be
restricted
to
a
very
narrow
scope
that
isn't
working
hasn't
worked,
doesn't
work
anywhere,
so
we
want
to
look
at
what
can
we
do?
H
H
That
is
down
there
yeah.
This
is
just
one
piece
of
this
is
right.
What
is
the?
What
do
the
people
want?
What
does
the
law
say?
What
are
we
doing
now?
What
have
we
been
doing?
What's
a
framework
we
can
live
with
and
then
what's
reasonable
is
that
is
that?
Okay,
all
right?
So
that's
that's
where
we
are
with
that.
Okay,.
I
The
second
Point
has
to
do
with
your
bullet
point
number
two
here
on
the
screen
continue
to
get
feedback
and
input
on
the
plan.
I
know
you'd
like
to
get
this
done
in
a
timely
fashion.
There
is
one
neighborhood
association
in
the
city
that
meets
monthly.
It
has
the
Far
East
Side
neighborhood
association,
where
you
would
have
a
captive
audience
and
I
would
suggest,
since
that
is
half
of
the
ward.
I
That
I
represent
that
perhaps
contact
the
leadership
of
that
group
to
see
if
they
would
be
willing
to
advertise
to
their
members
to
sit
down
in
a
captive
audience.
We
doubt
to
adopt
the
City
Rec
building
and
you
can
get
some
additional
input
which
says
you're
going
to
ask
for
in
the
second
bullet
point.
H
H
Good
good
to
know,
but
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
sit
AF
you'll
be
happy
about
this
for
us
to
ask
you
questions
before
we
present
something
to
the
city
and
we'll
we'll
see
about
that.
But
yeah,
it's
it's
coming
along!
There's
a
lot
of
other
pieces
to
it,
but
this
was
important
to
let
you
know
what
the
city
wanted.
Remember.
B
L
So
I'm
not
great
at
absorbing
information,
just
immediately
it's
nice
to
have
some
time
to
think
about
it,
but
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
that
I
really
love
about
being
on
city
council,
but
I
think
what
I
probably
love
the
most
is
seeing
stuff
like
this
and
just
a
group
of
concerned
citizens,
volunteering
their
time
to
try
and
better
the
community
that
they're,
a
part
of-
and
it's
it
makes
me
want
to
cry.
I
mean
honestly.
L
It
moves
me
almost
to
tears,
control
yourself,
yeah
I
will
not
if
you
ever
watch
a
movie
with
me,
I'm
a
crier
but
I,
just
I
appreciate
so
much
all
the
work
that
you
guys
have
put
into
this
and
there's
another
organization
here
tonight
as
well
with
ABA
who's.
Also,
thank
you
but
we'll
get
to
you
later,
but
thank
you
guys
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
doing
this
work.
Thanks
for
helping
the
city
with
us.
H
I
B
I
M
Remember
Eisner
and
this
evening,
planning
and
development
has
just
one
item
on
our
agenda,
and
that
is
the
discussion
of
a
requested
lot
split
on
at
3640
and
3648
Pleasant
Hill
Road,
and
when
someone
who
owns
property,
that
is
outside
of
Athens
city
limit
but
is
within
a
three
mile,
radius
of
the
city
wishes
to
split
a
lot
or
do
other
similar
activities.
They
do
have
to
come
to
the
city
for
approval
of
that
process.
M
So
it's
slightly
more
complicated
than
a
lot
split
in
that
it
actually
needs
to
be
handled
as
a
major
subdivision,
but
be
treated
as
a
minor
subdivision.
So
it
the
reason
for
that
is
because
it
is
approximately
10
acres
total
and
the
split
is
a
front
back
split.
So
it
would
be
three
approximately
three
acres
in
the
front
lot
and
then
approximately
seven
acres
in
the
back
lot,
but
the
back
one
does
not
have
Road
Frontage
this.
M
I
N
N
However,
sometimes
a
provision
of
the
lot
split
triggers
the
major
subdivision
regulations
in
accordance
with
our
subdivision
codes
and
in
those
particular
instances,
even
when
they're
extremely
minor
actions,
technically
they're
considered
major
subdivisions
which
require
city
council
approval,
and
so
they,
the
the
requester,
gets
caught
in
this
kind
of
kind
of
Catch-22,
where
it's
got
to
go
through
Planning,
Commission
and
then
to
city
council
for
approval.
And
so
you
know
that's
what
has
happened
here
and
it's
because
of
the
fact
that
there's
an
easement
necessary
to
access
this
back
property.
N
I
I
have
no
concern
with
this
one,
but
the
fact
that
we're
granting
an
easement
to
a
property
with
no
Frontage
If
This
Were
to
set
precedent
could
potentially
adversely
affect
a
another
situation
within
the
city
that
may
be
coming
forward.
So
I
guess.
My
question
is
in
that
particular
situation.
Could
they
refer
back
to
this
as
precedent
for
granting
that
easement,
where
there
was
no
Frontage.
N
I
can't
think
of
an
instance
in
the
city
limits
where
we've
done
this
and
in
instances
external
to
the
city
limits
where
we
allow
access
via
an
easement.
You
know
our
code
says
that
that
up
to
four
Parcels
can
be
served
by
a
private
easement.
You
know
so
without
you
know,
triggering
the
major
subdivision.
N
The
reason
why
this
particular
case
triggered
it
is
because
it's
a
new
easement
and
it's
a
it's
an
area
without
Frontage,
it's
probably
not
the
best
practice
in
a
in
a
more
dense
environment,
but
in
a
in
a
situation
like
this,
where
you
know
and
they've
used
this
driveway
for
you
know
a
long
time
and
they
just
want
to
split
the
back
parcel
and
as
long
as
there's
a
a
proper
understanding
that
you
know
who
owns
access
to
that
easement
that
runs
with
the
land.
We
don't
see
a
problem
with
this
particular
situation.
M
That's
it
and
just
for
clarifying
it
is
a
private
easement
friend
yeah.
That
is
all
it's
from
one
piece
of
the
property
to
the
other
piece
of
the
property.
It
doesn't
involve
the
city
like
granting
the
easement
correct,
so
it's
just
being
Incorporated
in
this.
What
would
be
the
new
Deeds
for
the
lot
split?
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments.
M
C
B
B
M
Thank
you,
member
Eisner,
so
this
is
a
draft.
What
we
have
before
us
this
evening
is
a
draft
resolution
that
I
believe
came
to
us
through
the
Athenians
for
bodily
autonomy
and
was
modeled,
at
least
in
part
after
the
legislation
adopted
by
Columbus
City-
and
this
has
been
reviewed
by
our
city
law
director,
as
well
as
by
our
chief
of
police
and
is.
M
The
problem
that
is
is
facing
particularly
people
with
uteruses
and
but
also
their
families
and
their
significant
others,
and
so
I
after
it
was
reviewed
by
by
our
law
director
and
was
sent
to
me.
I
reviewed
it
and
I
did
make
a
a
few
changes,
some
since
I'm
introducing
it
to
meet
my
personal
preferences
and
then
some
in
order
to
with
the
guidance
of
our
law,
director
and
our
Clerk
of
council,
to
align
it
with
our
City
Rules
and
restrictions.
M
This
is
not
an
issue
that
only
faces
pregnant
people.
The
Restriction
to
abortion
and
reproductive
Health
Care
primarily
face
is
something
that
women
face
or
pregnant
women
face,
but
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
are
honoring
the
rights
of
all
people
to
bodily
autonomy,
because
I
think
they're,
potentially
other
battles
coming
our
way,
and
so
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
put
that
out
there
that
all
people
should
have
the
right
to
bodily
autonomy
to
make
choices.
M
M
Athens
city
council
encourages
the
mayor
not
to
use
city
of
Athens
funds
for
the
investigation
or
support
for
the
prosecution
of
any
allegation,
charge
or
information
relating
to
the
outcome
of
a
given
pregnancy,
including
abortion
and
abortion
related
care
or
any
party.
There,
too,
be
the
lowest
priority
for
enforcement
and
the
use
of
City
resources
and
Personnel,
except
in
the
following
cases.
M
So
for
those
who
have
read
reviewed
previous
versions
of
this,
some
of
the
changes
were
necessary
because
of
what
Authority
city
council
has,
and
so
the
specific
funding
allocations
within
City
Administration,
including
the
city
police
department,
are
not
stipulated
by
city
council,
but
are
rather
set
by
the
administration
and
by
the
police
department.
And
so
we
to
set
specific
budgetary
restrictions
other
than
would
require
an
ordinance
and
significant
change.
M
And
so
we
are
taking
the
route
of
a
resolution
to
urge
the
administration
to
prioritize
and
de-prioritize
these
types
of
Investigations
and
further,
though
I
regret
to
say
so.
Our
our
city
law
director
does
does
not
is
not
the
person
or
office
that
prosecutes
felony
crimes,
and
that
is
the
city
office.
M
They
they
prosecute
misdemeanors
and
with
changing
laws
in
Ohio
abortion
crimes
would
will
likely
be
treated
as
or
coded
as
felonies,
so
we
are
limited
in
the
scope
of
our
Authority.
But
a
lot
of
the
purpose
of
this
resolution
is
to
make
a
statement
of
our
beliefs
and
well
acknowledging
the
limitations
of
our
Authority.
H
M
D
H
I
Two
quick
questions
in
section
two
and
and
if
you
don't
know
the
answer
to
this,
we
can
I
obviously
refer
to
the
law
director
at
a
later
time.
What
does
this
mean?
Athens
city
council
encourages
the
mayor.
I
know
what
that
means,
except
to
the
extent
otherwise
required
by
state
or
federal
law.
Well,
what.
M
I
M
No
we're
we're
Crea
we're
carving
out
the
exception,
like
we're,
not
saying
mayor,
make
a
decision
to
do
these
things,
even
if
it's
it
goes
against
state
or
federal
law.
It
is
except
to
the
extent
otherwise
required,
so
do
not
store
information
regarding
a
report
of
an
abortion,
except
what
is
possibly
required
by
state
or
federal
law,
don't
store
anything
extra,
and
so
we're
saying
we
city
council
are
not
asking
the
mayor
to
violate
state
or
federal
law.
M
I
M
I
M
P
My
name
is
arly
Faber
I'm,
the
operations
coordinator
at
United,
campus
ministry,
Center
and
I
live
on
Meadow
Lane
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
When
I
got
the
resolution
this
morning,
I
couldn't
stop
twos
coming
to
my
eyes,
not
only
tools
if
we
leave
it
seeing
hard
work
and
persistence
paying
off,
but
also
cues
for
all
the
individuals
across
the
state
and
Country
who
don't
have
local
governments
willing
to
fight
for
them
and
defend
their
rights
to
bodily
autonomy.
P
I
appreciate
the
work
of
city
council
and
my
co-organizers
more
than
my
words
can
adequately
describe
that
being
said.
I
believe
some
of
the
wording
in
sections,
3
and
4C
should
be
changed.
They
make
it
sound
like
abortion
is
a
crime
and,
while
it
likely
will
be
after
six
weeks
gestation
in
Ohio
soon,
we
do
not
believe
in
the
authority
of
any
governance
to
make
safe,
ablution
criminal
as
it
is
currently
written.
P
Section
3
states
that
the
policy
stated
above
does
not
apply
in
cases
where
collusion
or
force
is
alleged,
to
have
been
used
against
the
pregnant
person
or
in
cases
involving
an
allegation
of
conduct
criminally
negligent
to
the
health
of
the
pregnant
person
seeking
care
or
was
the
ablution
miscarriage
or
reproductive
Health
Care
is
not
the
crime
being
investigated,
but
evidence
of
another
crime.
We
would
recommend
editing
it
to
say.
The
policy
stated
above
does
not
apply
in
cases
with
collusion.
P
Earthquakes
is
alleged
to
have
been
used
against
the
pregnant
person
or
in
cases
evolving,
involving
an
allegation
of
conduct
criminally
negligent
to
the
health
of
the
pregnant
person
seeking
care
over
the
abortion
of
miscarriage
or
reproductive
Health.
Care
is
evidence
of
a
crime
in
section
4C.
A
similar
edit
should
be
made
instead
of
reading
with
the
abortion
miscarriage
or
reproductive
Health.
Care
is
not
the
crime
being
investigated
by
evidence
of
another
crime.
It
would
be
better
if
it
read
with
the
abortion
miscarriage
or
the
productive,
Health
Care
is
evidence
of
a
crime.
Again.
P
Thank
you
most
sincerely
for
your
time
and
energy
spent
on
this
resolution.
It
will
go
falling.
Protecting
the
citizens
of
Athens
and
students
of
Ohio
University
I
know
I
speak
for
many
when
I
say
how
grateful
I
am
to
live
in
a
city
where
elected
officials
care
about
our
rights
to
bodily
autonomy
enough
to
do
something
about
it.
Q
Q
Laws
that
are
being
implemented
in
this
state
government
are
invalid
in
other
state
governments
in
the
U.S,
and
we
I
think
it's
our
importance
important
to
us
to
actually
question
that
Authority
by
the
governor
by
the
state
legislature
and
by
the
Attorney
General.
So
I
would
very
much
like
to
see
something
more
substantial
where
we
were
absolutely
not
Prosecuting
people
who
were
seeking
this
Medical
Care
abortion
is
Medical.
Care
is
a
human
right.
Q
Q
Why
would
they
come
to
Ohio
when
they
could
actually
go
to
jail
for
seeking
reproductive
Health
Care?
So
I
think
that
this
is
really
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
strongly
and
forthright,
and
not
just
saying
that,
oh
great,
we
have
this
resolution
and
this
is
what
we
will
believe,
but
we
won't
put
any
money
into
the
prosecution,
but
there's
really
nothing
to
back
up
what
our
belief
system
is,
if
indeed
the
Attorney
General
decides
to
come
after
some
of
some
of
our
community
members,
so
I'd
really
like
it.
Q
M
Can
address
a
couple
of
okay
good
thanks
if
they're
they're,
not
facilities
within
the
city
of
Athens
that
perform
abortions,
people
have
to
leave
the
city
to
get
an
abortion,
even
when
they
are
legal
within
the
state
of
Ohio
city.
Council
only
has
authority
over
what
happens
with
in
the
city
of
Athens,
and
so
that's
one
issue
that
also
when
a
crime
is
a
felony
which
I
believe
is
what
will
happen
within
the
state
of
Ohio.
M
We
as
a
city
were
a
statutory
City.
We
do
not
have
the
power
or
authority
to
dictate
what
the
County
prosecutor
does
and
it
would
be
the
County
prosecutor
who
prosecutes
felonies
within
Athens
County,
and
we
don't
have
any
authority
to
dictate
to
that
person
that
an
elected
individual
what
their
job
is,
and
they
are
bound
to
their
own
set
of
rules
as
far
as
whether
they
uphold
the
Constitution
and
the
laws
of
the
state
of
Ohio,
so
I
I
promise.
M
You
I
wish
that
that
I
could
say
which
state
laws
apply
within
the
city
of
Athens
and
which
do
not,
but
I
cannot
we
we
don't.
The
city
does
not
have
the
authority
to
say:
well,
some
state
laws
don't
apply
within
here.
It
would
be
we
we
are
within
the
state
of
Ohio.
So
what
you're
asking
of
us
is
not
something
that
we
have
the
authority
to
do
and
would
not
hold
up
in
court
and.
M
And
this
is
just
my
own
personal
I
I.
Think
that
creating
a
Target
saying,
hey
people
come
to
Athens.
To
do
something
that
the
state
has
made
illegal
would
would
create
a
target
for
the
people
who
provided
those
services
and
and
would
subject
them
to
further
prosecution
from
the
state
level,
but
that
that's
just
my
own
personal
suspicion,
but
but
the
basics
of
it
are
we.
We
don't
have
the
authority
to
say
that
that
the
city
does
not
have
to
abide
by
state
law.
Q
M
M
M
Everyone
should
have
the
right
to
choose
for
themselves
what
their
health
care
should
look
like
and
be,
but
I
also,
as
was
mentioned,
have
house
sworn
and
oath
to
uphold
the
Constitution
and
and
I
have
limited
power.
Like
I
mean
that's
I,
there's
there's
not
something
that
I
can
change
in
the
city.
That's
within
the
state,
yeah
well.
Q
I
mean
I
I
would
hope
that
the
city
addresses
this,
because
we
are
going
to
be
seeing
a
more
repressive
law
coming
out
of
this
next
legislature
and
we
don't
have
the
Supreme
Court
Justices
to
hold
it
up.
So
this
is
a
critical
issue
and
I
think
one
that
each
of
us
should
be
pretty
terrorized
by
even
if
you're,
not
seeking
health
care
yourself.
Q
M
I
I
M
I
Okay,
yeah,
where
I
got
confused,
is
alleged
to
have
been
used
against
the
pregnant
person
that
almost
appears
to
be
after
the
fact
or
instead
of
used
against
to
have
caused.
The
pregnancy
would
be
a
little
clearer
to
that
point
if
you
would
be
so
kind
as
to
after
the
meeting
get
that
suggested
verbiage
to
member
Grace
so
that
that
can
be
reviewed
before
this
comes,
there
will
be
no
vote
tonight.
R
R
A
N
N
This
happened
at
the
end
of
two
different
administrations
ago
and
at
the
same
time,
the
developer
was
going
bankrupt
and
through
either
oversight
or
or
you
know,
failure
to
to
do
the
the
work
correctly
that
easement
was
never
recorded.
Subsequently,
the
developer
declared
bankruptcy.
The
land
in
the
area
was
acquired
by
a
bank.
The
bank
subsequently
sold
the
property
and
the
property
changed
hands
to
another.
N
On
the
land
holder,
the
entire
time
there
was
a
lift
station
that
was
built
there
and
the
city
has
been
operating
it
to
provide
sewage
services
to
what
we
call
University
States
phase
two.
So
we
only
discovered
this
recently
as
a
developer
was
coming
forward
to
build
more
housing
in
in
phase
two,
and
subsequently
we
determined
when
we
were
reviewing
that
situation,
that
there
was
no
easement
recorded.
N
We've
approached
the
the
landowner
which
is
H2
LLC
and
offered
a
an
amount
for
that
property
based
on
the
appraised
value
and
the
lender
declined
that
offer,
and
so
what
we're
asking
you
next
week
to
pass
a
resolution,
and
strangely
enough,
we
just
had
this
discussion
about
resolutions
and
and
but
in
this
particular
instance
of
Appropriations.
It's
only
a
resolution
that
goes
forward
that
basically
resolves
that
the
the
mayor
and
the
law
director
take
action
to
appropriate
the
property
through
eminent
domain
actions
and
and
through
a
court
of
law.
I
I
Also
in
that
meeting
to
see
if
this
can't
be
worked
out
now,
I'm
not
sure
it
can
be,
but
I
think
one
more
conversation
might
just
do
it,
because
this
is
not
a
pressing
matter,
one
more
week
or
with
Thanksgiving
coming
up
two
more
weeks
in
which
to
accommodate
a
meeting
might
very
well
be
worth
it
when
we're
paying
not
us,
but
we're
paying
three
and
four
hundred
dollars
an
hour
for
attorney.
To
do
something
like
this.
Take
it
to
court
the
bad
will
that
comes
out
of
that.
H
J
D
A
C
C
C
I
To
answer
your
question
directly:
Alan
thanks
again
for
reaching
out
last
week.
Let
me
know,
when
is
a
good
time
for
a
meeting.
I
have
a
conference
room
in
my
office
on
East
State
Street,
my
partner,
maybe
in
Florida,
but
can
Loop
her
in
by
phone.
The
only
other
person
from
my
side
would
be
my
assistant,
Kayla
Rupp,
who
was
a
part
of
the
last
meeting
with
the
Andy
Stone
Sally
and
Lisa
okay,
she's
willing
to
meet
and
again
remember,
Grace,
I
I.
Think
it's
it's
worth
our
while
to
to
make
that
recommendation.
N
Ultimately
allows
the
the
mayor
to
to
serve
notice
of
intent
to
acquire
basically
that
the
the
resolution
has
happened
and
then,
ultimately,
the
long
director
of
policy
you
know.
Certainly
negotiations
can
continue
all
the
way
up.
You
know,
prior
to
this
evening
being
and
and
to
your
to
your
point,
member
Swank
I
requested
from
Mr
Hayes
for
him
to
to
make
a
counteroffer,
and
he
did
not.
I
If
we
pass
said
resolution
that
that
sends
a
message
and
the
message
whether
intended
or
not,
is
it
that
we
feel
there
is
some
validity
to
this
and
therefore
say:
go
ahead,
take
the
property
I
guess
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
not
bring
that
hammer
down
until
that
conversation
can
be
had.
And
after
that
conversation
is
had,
and
we
hear
from
the
administration
that
we
tried
and
it
didn't
work.
I
B
H
M
Just
with
regard
to
exercising
the
control
of
that
piece
of
property,
the
city
has
owned
and
operated
a
lift
station
on
that
piece
of
property
for
several
years,
and
it
is
something
that
the
residents
of
University
Estates
certainly
need
to
have
continue
operating.
So
just
there's
we're
only
asking
for
an
easement
to
the
property
that
contains
this
sewer
lift
station.
I
C
We
passed
an
orange
Cap
City
Council
passed
an
ordinance
creating
authorizing
the
creation
of
the
community
Improvement
Corporation
those
persons
have
been
notified,
there's
to
serve
on
that,
and
the
first
meeting
is
scheduled
for
next
week.
For
that
organizational
body,
and
during
our
discussion
of
the
creation
of
this
community
Corporation,
we
talked
about
the
Armory
being
one
of
the
properties
of
interest.
That
would
make
that
we
could
make
use
of
this
mechanism
this
to
be
able
to
do
certain
improvements
to
the
Armory.
C
That
might
not
otherwise
be
possible
if
it
was
still
a
city
piece
of
property
and
what's
come
before
us
now
as
an
application
through
the
Appalachian
Monies,
and
we
have
a
December
9
deadline,
application
deadline,
and
so
we
are
interested
in
at
least
beginning
the
discussion
so
that
we
can
be
working
towards
having
the
transfer
of
the
property
of
the
Armory
from
the
city
to
the
community.
Improvement
Corporation.
N
Sure,
no
president
nicely
absolutely
describe
what
we're
seeking
to
do,
and
ultimately
the
council
can
can
put
restrictions
upon
that
transfer
to
say
that
the
community
improvements
Corporation
can't
divest
of
the
property.
So
if
that's
something
that
this
body
would
like
to
do,
which
I
would
recommend
that
this
body
does
it.
P
N
N
N
We
believe
what
they
really
mean
is
non-economic
development
government
building
efforts
for
without
having
revitalization
such
as
Courthouse
renovation
or
City
Hall
renovation
are
not
applicable,
but
in
this
particular
project,
as
this
body's
aware,
you
know
we're
seeking
ultimately
to
to
renovate
the
building
and
then
then
use
it
for
economic
development
purposes,
with
the
with
the
shareware
co-work
space
and
the
the
event
space
and
the
home
of
the
Athens
County
Foundation
there.
So
you
know,
ultimately,
we
believe
it
absolutely
fits
in
line
with
the
intent
of
the
Appalachian
communities
Grant.
N
B
M
M
That's
already
been
done
in
terms
of
Armory
planning,
because
I
hopeful
I
believe
is
applying
for
the
technical
assistance
grant,
because
our
infrastructure
plans
would
not
be
shovel
ready,
90
days
after
the
award
announcement,
because
that
means
you
90
days
means
you've,
got
your
plans
ready
to
go
and
you've
got
funding
like
figured
out
pretty
much.
If
and
then
it's
like
Oh
yay
we've
got
a
grant
instead,
but
because
otherwise,
like
you,
can't
have
something
shovel
already
in
90
days
very
easily.
N
Thank
you
memories.
Yes,
absolutely.
You
know
this
body
past
money
in
the
budget
earlier
in
the
year,
and
we've
been
diligently
working
with
the
architect
and
our
goal
is
to
have
construction
drawings
on
about
January
1st.
So
you
know
the
the
the
requirements
of
the
implementation.
Grant
are
shovel
ready
within
90
days
of
award
again
in
the
opaque
guidelines
from
odod
Awards
will
be
in
early
2023,
so
you
know
early
2023
could
be
January,
it
could
be
March
bottom
line.
N
I
B
C
E
N
Thank
you
memorizner,
so
so
the
the
the
implementation
yeah
implementation
round
is
50
million
dollars,
for
you
know
several
ready
projects,
early
implementation.
You
know
we're
looking
at
about
a
10
million
dollar
ask
with
four
communities
partnering
together
with
like
projects
that
ultimately
we're
we're
tying
together
as
as
one
one
project,
because
they're
interrelated
and
and
these
are
these
are
four
communities
that
are
doing
renovations
of
buildings
in
their
downtown
and
the
the
renovations
are
in
order
to
provide
space
for
share
work,
co-work
that
help
for
economic
development
in
their
particular
community.
N
And
so
when
you
look
at
the
guidelines
and
what
they're
scoring
the
grants,
you
know
the
applications,
basically
against
as
a
rubric
that
says:
Downtown
provideration,
that
kind
of
development
is
very
important
and
so
that
scores
high
and
multiple
communities.
Regional
impact
is
very
important
in
that
screws
high.
So
if
you
can
explain
to
me
what
downtown
revitalization
of
multiple
communities
means,
I
I
will
fully
I.
N
You
know
I
really
appreciate
that
that
input
But,
but
so
you
know
we're
taking
a
shot
at
it,
which
basically
is
a
project
that
involves
four
communities
with
four
different
facilities.
That
are
all
being
renovated
that
are
all,
within
this
time
frame
of
being
shovel
ready
to
to
apply
against
this
and
say:
hey,
look.
We
have
a.
We
have
a
group
of
projects
that
are
interrelated,
and
so
really
it's
one
project
we're
asking
for
about
10
million
dollars
and
we'd
like
to
be
the
lead
applicant.
N
Just
so
we're
the
ones
pressing
send
so
I
know
that
it
goes
in
on
the
before
November
9th
to
to
I'm
sorry,
December
9th
for
OD,
so
I
I
don't
know
the
form
of
this
legislation.
Yet
because
again
the
guidelines,
don't
specifically
say
you
have
to
have
legislation
from
a
governmental
body
in
order
to
to
you
know,
have
multiple
people
function
together.
B
I
H
N
Thank
you,
member
Spanish,
the
the
structure
that
we're
envisioning
is
a
a
shared
membership
for
participants
who
you
know
have
access
to
one
of
the
locations
to
be
able
to
also
go
and
use
the
other
locations.
If
they
are
to,
you
know,
buy
a
membership
for
a
certain
number
of
hours
per
month
of
use
of
open
space.
They
can
use
any
of
the
spaces
another
technique
or
another
portion
of
this
would
be
if
you,
if
you
use
one
space,
you
could
go
to
one
of
the
other
spaces,
and
you
can.
N
You
could
rent
that
space
at
a
discount,
and
so
really
those
are
the
two
Arrangements
that
we're
looking
at.
In
our
case,
you
know
we
have
a
non-profit
identify
that
ultimately
is
going
to
run
the
space
and
the
lease
from
the
cic
the
space
in
order
to
operate
the
facility,
and
they
would
have
to
basically
have
that
agreement
with
the
the
entities
that
run
the
other,
the
other,
the
other
three
facilities
and,
in
each
case,
there's
a
a
different
entity
running
the
other
facilities.
N
But
you
know,
all
of
us
are
committed
to
making
this
application
and
working
together,
and
you
know
it's
not
just
to
get
the
grant
money.
It
really
kind
of
makes
sense.
You
know
all
of
these
facilities
are
within
70
miles
of
Intel,
so
you
know
we
really
do
believe
you
know
with
both
Intel
and
then
all
the
second
and
third
order,
Economic
Development
and
businesses
that
are
going
to
come
to
the
region.
B
K
N
N
You
know
not
a
huge
increase,
but
that's
a
that's
a
good.
You
know
it's,
it's
a
notable
notable
increase,
we're
still
dialing
in
several
of
these.
Several
of
these
different
things.
I
really
think
our
Personnel
lines
are
the
things
that
are
that
are
driving
that
just
the
function
of
additional
costs
associated
with
with
people
the
other
funds,
so
basically
starting
at
fund
206
all
the
way,
through
all
the
way
through
fund
903.
At
the
very
end,
that's
about
a
10
increase
over
last
year.
N
N
N
One
Personnel
cost
that
that
I'm
particularly
concerned
with
is
a
couple
years
ago.
Council
passed
legislation
that
called
for
increases
to
part-time
and
and
seasonal
employees
to
push
those
wages
up
to
15
an
hour
over
a
I
think
a
five-year
period
or
four
year
period.
We're
up
to
I.
Think
a
couple
the
second
year
in
that
or
the
third
year
through
that
second
year
through
that
and
the
base
wage
now
is
twelve
dollars
for
all
of
those.
Seasonal
and
part-time
places
are.
N
Are
that
that
really
impacts
the
wreck
and
the
community
center
operation
way
more
than
anywhere
else
in
the
city,
because
they
have
the
vast
majority
of
those
particular
positions
and
with
our
projections,
even
with
a
number
of
efficiencies
that
we
believe
we
can
achieve
with
pool
operation
for
next
year.
Those
increase
pieces
are
driving
about
a
seventy
five
thousand
dollar
increase
in
tc100
costs,
and
so,
when
we're
bumping
up
against
the
all
the
revenue.
That's
in
the
fund
and
that's
coming
into
the
fund
in
in
Tu,
70
and
271.
N
That's
a
place
where,
where
I
have
some
concerns-
and
that
actually
is
the
is
the
topic
of
the
next
agenda
item
when
we
get
into
that-
but
barring
that
those
are
the
the
primary
points
on
the
budget.
If
there
are
specific
questions
about
specific
lines,
I
can
take
some
notes.
Some
of
them
I
might
be
able
to
speak
right
off
the
top
of
my
head.
N
K
H
Okay,
so
in
my
experience,
working
on
various
management
situations
and
boards
and
whatnot
I've
always
seen
a
percentage
showing
between
the
previous
year
and
the
the
upcoming
year,
so
you
can
because
that
really
helps
you
to
appreciate
what
exactly
is
happening
and
since
that
wasn't
there,
my
husband
and
I
went
back
and
figured
out
the
percentage
for
all
of
them.
Comparing
them
and
I
would
really
like
to
see
and
I'm
surprised.
It's
not
here.
H
Percentages
reported
on
an
ongoing
basis,
I
think
it's
very
hard
to
assess
how
you're
doing
without
showing
the
percentage
increase
over
the
previous
year.
The
percent
of
total
to
me
is
not
as
valuable
as
the
percentage
over
what
was
spent
the
year
before
so
doing
that
one
area
that
I
thought
was
interesting.
That
went
down
considerably
and
I'm
wondering.
Why
is
the
court
costs
I
see
that
fire
and
police
are
up
fairly
significantly,
but
that's
understandable?
We
get
that
and
then
it
went
up
quite
a
bit
and
I'm
kind
of
curious
about
that.
N
See
if
I
I
can
I
can
speak
to
it.
You
know
the
number
of
I.T
costs
that
that
we
expect
to
have
with
hardware
and
software
upgrades
in
the
in
the
coming
year
is
pretty
significant.
So
really
it's
not
people
that
are
driving
this.
It's
it's
Professional,
Services
and
Hardware,
and
you
know
coding.
So
you
know,
we've
got
a
number
of
initiatives
in
order
to
maintain
the
secure
environment,
and
you
know,
there's
there's
a
host
of
things.
N
If
you
want
to
sit
down
and
go
over
some
of
the
specifics,
I
can
arrange
a
meeting
to
talk
about
that.
But,
for
instance,
you
know
copper,
copper
line
as
a
as
a
phone
system
is,
you
know,
gradually
being
Sunset
across
the
across
the
United
States.
You
know,
as
people
move
to
you
know
all
voice
over
IP
systems,
and
so
you
know
cost
associated
with
moving
hardware
and
the
systems
over
to
that
is
one
of
the
costs
switch
to
Office
365.
N
H
N
N
We
we
up,
you
know
installed
the
new
firewalls
that
that
we've
had
sitting
on
the
shelf
for
about
three
years
and
really
needed
to
install
and-
and
it
was
very
painful
to
do
it,
but
with
the
the
help
of
the
external
firm
that
we
used
to
you
know
help
manage
the
system
we
were
able
to
get
that
done.
So
I
think
I.
Think
right
now,
Lucas
is
is
pretty
happy
with
the
arrangement
that
we
have
with
the
go
to
it.
N
N
K
M
Say
that
the
auditor
probably
has
more
details
but
I
know
there
have
been
some
staffing
changes
and
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
Staff
because
they
determined
that
they
could
manage
the
court
operations
with
fewer
staff
members.
So
that's
and
some
staff
members
had
been
with
the
city
for
a
long
time,
so
change
changes
in
the
number
of
Staff
reduces
the
cost.
O
So
I
agree
with
member
Grace
that
they
have
had
some
reductions
in
their
personnel
costs,
so
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
follow
what
how
we're
looking
at
this
budget,
because
I
look
at
it
from
several
different
ways.
So
you're
looking
at
the
estimated
budget
for
next
year
and
you're,
comparing
it
with
what
the
budget
was
or
what
was
spent
last
year.
H
O
O
A
O
I,
don't
know
about
that.
It's
just
hard
to
compare
budgets
from
the
last
two
years
to
this
year
because
of
covid.
What
went
on
what
didn't
go
on?
You
know
and
Court
kept
operating,
so
there
weren't
as
many
fluctuations
as
some
of
our
other
other
funds
and
account
lines,
but
yeah
I'd
have
to
look
at
it
more
closely
to
see
what
you're,
comparing
exactly
I'm
I'm
going
through,
say.
O
O
The
construction
you
know
in
the
area
changed
and
there's
just
a
lot
of
things
to
look
at
in
that
respect
and
and
so
yeah
Revenue
wise
is
very
different
and
the
same
with
expense
wise,
because
there
were
things
we
didn't
do
you
know
and
I
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
anything
else
about
court,
except
that
if
you're
talking
about
Personnel,
then
in
the
100s,
then
that's
what
it
is.
They're
they've
reduced
their
staff
by
two
full-time
people,
mayor.
C
C
And
were
you
comparing
it
to
the
previous
one?
That's
on
the
shared
drive
and
what
service
safety
director
Stone
was
pointing
out
is
is
that
in
certain
cases
we
started
out
the
year
with
a
certain
budget,
but
we've
made
appropriation
amendments
during
the
year,
and
so
that's
why
some
of
them
may
be
significantly
higher
or
lower.
O
I'd
be
happy
to
get
with
you
and
send
you
anything
I,
don't
always
send
a
lot
of
things
to
council
I.
You
know
it
depends
on
how
far
in
the
weeds
you
want
to
go,
but
we
also
do
a
comparison
report
which
that's
why
I
said
it
depends
on
what
you're
looking
at.
Are
you
looking
at
the
actual
budget
from
last
year
or
the
budget
ordinance
or
and
spreadsheet
that
was
prepared
a
year
ago?
Now
because,
as
the
you
know,
member
nicely
just
said
it
varies
a
lot.
O
We
we've
added
millions
of
dollars
to
our
budget
over
the
years
through
Appropriations,
and
so
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
use
this
document.
A
more
accurate
document,
I
think,
would
be
a
system
report
which
are
the
actual
numbers
that
we
yeah
we
do,
and
so
so,
although
we
have
government
accounting
where
we
have
an
expense
report
and
we
have
a
revenue
report,
we
do
pull
together.
O
We
do
a
comparison
report
and
that
can
show
you
in
those
two
areas
and
then
that's
why
we
do
the
unappropriated
balance
sheet,
because
it
shows
you
the
money
we
expected
to
come
in
and
what
was
appropriated
and
what
we
have
left
and-
and
so
so
we
have
a
lot
of
different
documents
that
I
can
show
you.
That
would
give
you
a
better
better
representation
of
what's
gone
up
and
what's
gone
down.
O
O
To
what
what
council
passed
for
the
budget
so
keep
in
mind,
they're
working
on
an
expense
budget
based
on
what
they
think
their
needs
are
and
right
now
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
what
I
think
is
going
to
come
in
Revenue
wise,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
looking
at
now.
At
the
same
time,
however,
that's
not
something
that
goes
through
counsel,
that's
done
in
the
Honor's
office.
O
Sure-
and
so
you
know,
that's
where
we
might
you
know
have
issues
is,
is
if
I
think
we're
only
going
to
bring
in
this
much
revenue
this
year,
because
this
is
all
we
brought
or
next
year,
because
this
is
all
we
brought
in
this
year.
But
you
know,
as
as
service
safety
director
Stone
was
saying,
you
know
we
struggle
with
a
very
tight
budget
in
Park
in
Parks
and
Recreation
funds.
O
So
you
know,
and
some
other
funds
are
pretty
tight
just
because,
and
so,
if
you
let
me
know
if
there's
another
way,
I
mean
I'm
looking
at
this
very
differently
than
what
you
are
looking
at
with.
What
you
have
to
work
with,
and
an
unappropriate
balance
sheet
would
show
you
how
much
additional
Appropriations
have
been
done
in
a
fund.
I'd
be
happy
to
send
you
one
of
those,
that's
a
spreadsheet
that
we
do
in-house,
because
our
finance
system
doesn't
work.
That
way.
N
Along
this
same
lines,
to
what
the
other
just
mentioned,
remember
Crow.
My
guidance
to
my
department.
Heads
is
any
single
expenditure
that
you
expect
to
be
greater
than
fifty
thousand
dollars
do
not
include
in
this
budget,
and
the
reason
is
that
city
council
has
to
pass
legislation
authorizing
that
expenditure
anyway,
and
so
we
don't
do
those
Appropriations
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
if
they
haven't,
unless
it's
part
of
a
project,
that's
already
been
authorized.
N
That
carries,
carries
forward
like,
for
instance,
that
ODOT
money
I
was
talking
about
in
fund
589
but
say
for
instance,
there's
a
you
know:
significant
piece
of
equipment
that
costs
more
than
that
costs
more
than
you
know,
fifty
thousand
dollars
the
council
is
going
to
have
to
authorize
it,
and
so
the
the
I
just
tell
the
department
heads
don't
put
that
in
there,
because
we
will.
You
know
we'll,
go
to
council
for
that
single
project
and
and
and
seek
a
separate
appropriation,
a
separate
when
we,
when
we
seek
for
the
authorization.
I
O
On
the
other
hand,
there
are
areas
where
I
might
increase
the
revenue
to
cover
their
budget.
If
I
think
there
is
a
possibility
that
that
money
will
come
in
I
do
have
one
other
thing
on
this
I
did
happen
to
bring
an
unappropriate
balance
sheet
for
the
end
of
September,
not
October,
if
just
for
the
record
but
year-to-date
additional
Appropriations,
which
would
have
all
gone
through
Council
7
million
one
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventy
one
dollars
has
been
added
to
the
budget
that
Council
passed
at
the
end
of
last
year.
K
D
N
I
can't
speak
entirely
to
cares
act
because
all
of
that
has
been
moved
into
the
general
fund
and
it's
functioning
basically
as
a
cushion
in
the
general
fund.
Right
now
for
us,
but
I
can
speak
to
arpa.
We
anticipate
receiving
another
1.2
million
dollars
in
art
for
money.
I
hear
coming
up
in
in
the
next
year.
K
The
the
city
of
Athens
has
a
number
of
tax
levies
that
equal,
almost
13
percent
of
our
revenues
and
those
those
monies
go
to
go
directly
into
those
those
funds
left
over
from
that
is
the
the
rest
is
87.11
percent.
That,
then,
is
by
ordinance
mixed
amongst
various
funds
in
the
city.
73
of
that
goes
into
the
general
fund.
K
18
of
that
goes
into
streets.
Five
percent
goes
into
the
recreation
Department
three
percent
goes
into
capital
and
one
percent
goes
into
Transit.
That
is
what
we
call
the
income
tax
mix
as
director
Stone
was
just
discussing.
The
city
Administration
is
proposing
a
change
in
the
income.
Tax
mixed,
hopefully
fill
some
of
this
hole.
Would
you
like
to
address
that
directly
director
Stone.
N
I
can,
thank
you,
remember
crowd.
So
you
know
each
percent
of
the
of
the
the
what's
left
over
after
the
special
levees
you
know
are
paid
is
about
130
000
130
to
140
000,
and
so
that's
I'm.
Sorry,
that's
one
percent,
that's
one
percent
of
the,
not
one
percent
income
tax,
but
one
percent
of
the
remainder
of
what's
leaving.
N
You
know
really
might
be
necessary
in
the
rec
fund
and
so
we'd
like
to
reduce
that
general
fund
transfer
of
72
point
to
72.5
percent
and
the
street
fund
to
17.5
percent,
to
increase
the
rec
fund
to
six
percent.
You
know
my
hope
is
that
that'll
help
stabilize
things
there
in
that
particular
fund.
It's
not
all
the
money,
but
there's
a
lot
of
Demands
on
on
that
department
and
every
time
I
turn
around.
N
K
N
K
N
Sure
thank
you.
Member
Swank
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
specific
item
up
because
we
do
plan
on
opening
on
Sunday
next
year,
so
at
least
for
a
limited
hours.
We
have
the
discussion
here
recently
because
we
know
there's
a
demand
for
that.
You
know.
I
would
argue
that
that
the
opening
of
Planet
Fitness
number
one
and
the
pandemic
number
two
were
really
the
two
things
to
drive
membership
down
over
the
last
several
years.
N
I
I've
asked
that
question
people
Planet
Fitness,
is
one
it's
open
extended
hours.
Secondly,
you
can
take
your
Planet
Fitness
membership
anywhere.
Second
is
availability
of
working
machines
and
that
Sunday
thing
is
a
big
deal
for
some
people.
Some
people
like
to
go,
work
out,
go
home,
shower
and
then
go
to
church,
so
it
has
had
an
effect
and
I've
surveyed
people,
not
a
tremendous
number,
but
I
have
surveyed
people
on
that.
N
Thank
you,
member
Swank,
you
know,
memberships
is
not
a
significant
portion
or
it
is
a
significant
portion,
but
it's
not
that
much
of
the
revenue
in
in
the
270
and
271
fund.
You
know
really
taxes
are
ultimately
what
what
are
the
Lions
share?
We
try
to
do
cost
recovery
in
the
services
that
we
offer
as
much
as
possible.
I
think
the
industry
standard
is
to
try
to
recover
40
of
your
costs,
so,
regarding
you
know,
loss
of
Revenue
associated
with
hours
versus
cost
and
demands
on
the
on
the
system.
N
There.
You
know
it's
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
tough
to
say
you
know
what
specifically
changes
and
levers
we
can
pull
to
to
increase
membership.
Certainly
fixing
machines
and
being
open
more
hours
are
two
things
we
could
do
to
potentially
bring
in
more
membership.
I,
don't
know
that
that
will
equate
to
the
cost
associated
with
fixing
the
machines
and
being
open
for
more
hours,
and
that
just
may
be
a
service
we
want
to
issue
to.
You
know
give
to
the
citizens
via
tax
subsidies.
N
With
regard
to
your
question
on
the
community
center,
fifteen
thousand
dollars
is
the
cost,
the
the
the
you
know.
This
is
what
we
think
it
will
cost.
However,
in
the
facilities
use
agreement
agreement,
we
identified
that
we
would
review
that
within
a
year
and
if
it,
for
whatever
reason,
cost
more
than
that,
then
we
would
adjust
that
in
future
years.
N
So
you
know
to
say
whether
or
not
that's
Market
rates
or
not
I,
don't
know
that
that
that
I
could
say
that
clearly,
market
rate
is
thirty
thousand
dollars,
or
else
Mr
Hayes
wouldn't
be
charging
them
thirty
thousand
dollars
at
the
thing.
So
we
could
do
market
rate,
but
you
know
the
the
ordinance
on
the
book
says
that
we
shall
provide
a
space
and
we
thought
it
appropriate
to
charge
what
we
thought.
O
I
was
just
going
to
do
a
quick
update
here.
As
I
said,
we've
got
our
October
reports
done
for
the
month
of
October
and
as
far
as
our
projections
for
revenue
for
last
year,
both
rack
and
the
community
center
have
almost
they're
they're
at
97
and
95
after
10
months,
so
I'll
be
adjusting
that
those
Revenue
estimates
higher,
because
we
have
brought
in
more
money
than
we
expected
already
this
year,
whether
we're
back
at
2019
or
comparison
to
2019.
O
O
K
I
K
K
S
K
I
I
C
A
M
That
you
know
that
the
mayor,
as
an
elected
officially
official,
the
mayor's
salary
increases
by
a
percentage
and
president
of
council
could
be
a
different
percentage
or,
and
that
percentage
could
be
zero
for
any,
which
is
what
it
would
be.
If
we
don't
do
anything,
but
in
in
2025,
there
would
be
no
raise
it's
a
little
odd
to
try
to
think
what
the
raise
for.
O
O
Know
how
this
happened
that
we
have
five
years
on
this
one,
but
in
all
my
previous
years,
one
Council
and
in
this
office
they
did
it
four
years
at
a
time
for
my
office,
two
years
for
Council
and
the
treasurer's
position
is
on
a
four-year
term.
But
it's
not
the
same
four
years
as
mine
and
the
mayor
and
the
law
directors
and
there
used
to
be
a
separate
ordinance
for
the
the
treasurer's
salary.
Then
it
got
forgotten
one
time
and
she
went
four
years
without
any
raise.
O
B
Election
because
I
mean
yeah,
you
don't
want
to
talk
about
that
because
it's
a
political,
Hot,
Potato,
okay,
but
that
is,
is
the
truth
of
the
matter.
We're
counsel
we
budget,
we
can
set
it
up
the
way
we
choose
to
do
it
and
we
can
say:
okay,
every
two
years,
you're
going
to
get
a
raise
or
you
say
every
four
years
and
like
you
say
we
can
come
back
and
change
it.
If
we
change
our
mind,
if
you
get
a
new
Council
in
here,
so
that's
something
everyone
has
to
to
think
about.
I
Should
each
of
us
choose
to
run
again
and
get
reelected
the
following
year,
we'll
get
nine
thousand
ninety
seven
dollars
and
fourteen
cents.
If
we
do
nothing
correct
so
tonight
we
could
do
nothing
tonight.
We
can
say
you
know
what
that
eighty,
nine
hundred
and
nine
thousand
isn't
enough
and
we
could
come
up
with
some
other
numbers
or
we
could
say
starting
in
2025,
it's
going
to
be
x
amount
and
we
could
do
2025
and
26
and
20.
However,
many
years
we
wanted.
H
M
C
P
C
S
C
Mean
you
know
there
are
some
council
members
who
are
only
getting
a
hundred
dollars
per
meeting,
and
so
you
know
we're
faring
obviously
far
better
than
that.
The
other
thing
I
think
is,
is
that
council
members
and
elected
officials
have
tied
their
not
tied
but
have
closely
followed
in
the
percentages
that
non-union
employees
have
have
made
and
granted.
There
are
some
there's
a
progressive
kind
of
alignment,
but
it's
usually
been
in
that
in
the
two
percent
range.
So
those
are
my
comments.
C
K
B
I
So
what
the
last
ordinance
was
was
a
two
percent
increase
per
year
for
all
those
five
to
to
the
acting
mayor's
point
for
those
cities
in
Ohio
between
twenty
thousand
and
thirty
thousand.
Regardless
of
how
the
city
set
up
the
average
salary
was
nine
thousand
fifty
five
dollars
and
Thirty
Four
Cents
for
a
council
member,
so
we're
right
there
we're
within
a
hundred
or
two
dollars,
so
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
if
we
got
to
get
this
to
an
ordinance
standpoint,
this
two
percent.
What
someone
just
mentioned,
the
Ohio
Municipal
League!
J
Mary
Abel
48
Strathmore,
just
for
the
sake
of
transparency
and
you're
discussing
the
salaries,
would
you
just
go
through
what
those
elected
officials
and
their
current
salaries
are
so
that
anyone
watching
knows
that
it's
a
little
nebulous
and
may
not
be
clear
and
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
would
do
that.
Thank
you
sure.