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Athens City Council - March 14, 2022
A
Good
evening
welcome
to
athens
city
council,
it's
7
01
p.m.
Monday.
Tonight
we
are
in
committees.
We
have
no
special
session
scheduled
according
to
our
agenda.
We
will
be
meeting
as
the
committee
of
the
whole,
which
means
that
all
members
of
council
will
sit
at
the
diocese
and
discuss
the
topic
after
that
is
the
transportation
committee
and
then
that
be
followed
up
by
finance
and
and
personnel
committee.
A
B
C
C
I
met
with
mr
stone
and
also
mr
riggs,
and
we
worked
out
a
plan
that
will
do
just
that
and
most
importantly,
not
affect
the
city's
budget
in
a
negative
way.
Those
were
the
two
goals,
one
to
allow
a
renter
to
have
the
same
rate
as
a
homeowner,
but
also
not
to
affect
the
city's
budget
in
a
negative
way.
C
C
C
C
If
a
significant
number
of
people
decide
to
switch
from
the
two
can
rate
to
the
one
can
rate
for
every
100
customers
who
do
that
the
rates
will
go
up,
20
cents,
so
that
may
sound
like
a
lot.
But
let's
put
it
this
way.
If
a
thousand
residents
did
that
which
we
know
is
not
going
to
happen,
the
rate
would
go
up
two
dollars
just
two
dollars.
C
This
would
do
two
things:
it
would
bring
equity
to
the
charges
so
that
renters
and
homeowners
would
pay
the
same
amount
if
they
opted
into
the
one
can
rate,
and
secondly,
it
would
not
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
city's
budget.
I
met
with
mr
stone,
mr
riggs
and
andrew
chickey.
They
ran
the
numbers
on
this
and
we
came
to
this
conclusion
to
achieve
those
two
desirable
goals,
mr
stone.
Does
that
pretty?
Well,
some
things
up
anything
you'd
like
to
add.
Please.
B
I
it
does
it
does
you
know,
I
don't
know
that
I
could
have
said
that
any
more
succinctly.
The
important
thing
to
note
is
with
that
that
scale,
the
the
initial
20
increase
occurs
initially
and
then,
as
every
100
people
opt
in.
Basically
that
would
then
go
and
cause
it
to
slide,
and
you
know
we
will
probably
come
back.
B
In
fact,
I
know
we
will
come
back
to
this
body
after
we
rebid
our
solid
waste
services
next
year
and
you
know
make
recommendations
on
rates
across
the
board.
So
really
this
is.
This
is
about
a
one
year.
D
Thank
you.
Protein.
A
D
You,
mr
swank,
and
and
city
administration,
for
working
on
making
this
more
equitable
I'll,
just
throw
out
something
that
came
up
to
me,
which
is
that
I
have
three
permanent
residents
in
my
home
and
wasn't
so
long
ago
that
we
had
four
and
we
still
only
produced
one
bag
of
trash.
D
D
So
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't,
doesn't
solve
all
our
equity
problems,
I
mean
it.
Doesn't
it
doesn't
if
we're
really
trying
to
get
through
to
this
pay
as
you
throw
right,
and
so,
if
we
have
a
nice
house
of
college
student
renters
who
are
very
sustainability,
minded
and
are
composting
and
our
recycling,
and
they
have
four
people
in
the
house.
D
I
understand
this
is
just
a
year
and
and
we're
trying
to
get
this
as
perfect
as
possible,
and
I
feel
like
this
is
progress,
but
maybe,
as
we
work
on
this
in
the
in
the
next
year,
and
as
we
see
what
the
the
new
waste
and
recycling
and
composting
hauling
you
know,
service
contract
will
be,
and
if
our
goal
is
to
make
this
equitable
for
all
citizens
of
athens
seems
to
me
we're
not
quite
there.
Yet.
C
And
I
would
agree
with
what
you're
saying
one
simple
solution:
if
we
had
the
technology
which
some
cities
do
when
the
truck
pulls
up,
there
is
a
geopositional
scanner
and
not
enough
scanners
to
correct
a
word,
but
a
geopositional
device
that
boom
there's
a
little
bar
code
on
that
container
and
boom.
That's
what
you're
building
it's
all
automated
you're
going
to
stand
without.
D
C
To
get
that
implemented
for
the
last
year
of
this
contract,
I
think
would
be,
would
be
very,
very
difficult
to
do.
I
think
this
is
a
good
first
step.
C
It
shows
as
a
council
that
we
are
sensitive
to
the
equity
that
we
talk
about
on
a
daily
basis
and
that
we
are
trying
one
step
at
a
time
to
make
this.
The
system
do
two
things,
one
be
as
equitable
as
possible,
and
secondly-
and
I
know
you
appreciate
this-
to
encourage
people
to
generate
less
trash
every
day.
B
There
are
a
couple
points
that
I
would
make
in
response
to
that.
Certainly
we
could
monitor
and
if
there
was
a
request
from
a
household
greater
than
four
unrelated
occupants,
that
was
a
permanent
rental.
We
could
come
back
to
this
body
and
make
a
recommendation
for
change
on
down
the
road.
There
are
550
accounts
as
of
february
that
are
in
the
four
occupant
rental
or
greater,
and
that's
four
to
six
occupants,
seven
and
nine
occupants
or
ten
or
more
occupants.
B
The
lions
share,
those
as
you
get
into
larger,
our
rooming
houses
and
we've
never
had
an
a
request
from
an
organization
like
that
or
to
to
make
a
request
for
the
the
lower
can
rate
this.
This
mechanism
of
billing
has
been
in
place
since
2002
the
end
of
2002,
and
so
this
is
the
first
step
to
draw
a
distinction
between.
B
The
or
to
rather
go
back
to
an
opportunity
for
both
renters
and
owner
occupied
users
since
2002
to
be
able
to
opt
for
that
same
one
can
rate,
at
least
in
so
far
as
the
one
through
three
occupants
category
is
concerned.
It's
important
to
note
that
about
80
cents
of
the
the
the
cost
is
due
to
the
amount
of
trash.
B
So
if
you
take
a
40
cent,
I'm
sorry
a
40
pound
trash
can
and
some
trash
cans.
You
know,
32
gallon
trash
cans
might
weigh
more
than
that.
Some
may
weigh
less
than
that
and
you
look
at
what
current
tipping
fees
are
they're
about
80
cents.
Now,
if
you
take
the
amount
of
space
that
that
uses
on
a
truck
versus
everything
else,
that's
on
the
truck.
Once
it's
been
compacted
with
the
packer
truck,
you
know,
let's
say
a
dollar.
B
So
when
we
look
at
the
difference
between
the
two
can
rate
right
now
or
the
proposed
2
can
rate
of
22
25
versus
1543,
that's
nearly
seven
dollars
in
in
subsidy,
where
I
have
six
dollars
really
in
subsidy
that
the
remainder
of
the
ratepayers,
the
two
can
rate
and
above,
are
paying
for
the
the
personnel
or
the
the
residents
who've
chosen
to
opt
into
the
one
can
rate
opt
into
so
we're
tremendously
incentivizing,
the
one
can
rate
and
and
the
the
remainder
of
the
ratepayers
are
carrying
that
that
cost
in
order
to
instead
of
item
so
to
the
tune
of
about
you,
know,
700
percent
greater
amount
if
you're
saying
that
it's
about
a
dollar,
for
you
know
a
single
can
of
trash
when
it
comes
to
the
tipping
fee.
B
So
really
what
you're
paying
for
is
the
is
the
service
someone
to
come
to
your
house
and
then
we
greatly
incentivize
the
one
can
rate
for
people
that
put
out
one
one
kind
of
trash,
because
we
believe
that
that's
an
important
thing
to
do.
This
has
the
opportunity
now
for
rentals,
of
one
to
three
renters
to
also
opt
into
that,
and
this
sliding
scale
based
on
the
number
of
people
that
opt
into
this
system
from
today
forward,
will
allow
to
make
it
a
revenue
neutral
opportunity.
B
You
know,
as
we
go
through
the
rest
of
the
term
in
the
contract,
if
we
do
get
a
request
from
a
rental
and
remember
crowd
if
you
know
a
rental
that
that
you
know
has
four
to
six
occupants
or
seven
or
nine
arguments
or
ten
or
more,
that
believes
that
they
can
get
by
with
putting
out
one
can
of
trash.
Certainly
we'll
listen
to
that,
and
then,
if
we
get
that
request,
we'll
come
back
to
this
body
and
make
a
recommendation
for
another
change.
D
One
additional
question
that
rate
increase
for
every
100
new
customers
to
the
single
container
rate
will
that
be
announced
on
our
utility
bills
that
there
will
be
no
council
action
there,
it's
already
set
by
this
ordinance,
so
that
will
just
be
a
sort
of
a
city
announcement.
We
hit
that
number
things
are
going
up:
20
cents,
okay,.
B
We'll
do
an
analysis
monthly
based
on
the
number
of
people
who
opt
in
or
quick
correctly,
correction
opt
for
the
single
can
rate,
and
if
we
run
into
a
situation
where
we
have
a
month
that
that
occurs,
we'll
do
an
announcement
on
the
utility
bill
and
say
that
this
I
I
you
know
honestly.
I
believe
that
we'll
probably
have
potentially
one
to
two
hundred
people
or
accounts
opt
for
this.
B
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
happen
to
the
extent
that
it's
gonna
cause
much
of
a
change
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
trash
contract,
but
if
it
does
certainly
we'll
make
that
announcement
on
the
utility
bill
announcements
on
the
for
the
following
month,.
A
E
Delac
live
at
124
morris
avenue
here
in
the
city.
E
E
So
I
don't
represent
anyone
just
myself
question
for
clarification.
Something
came
up
last
time
that
mentioned
that
a
lot
of
the
rental
accounts
are
held
by
the
landlords
and
not
by
the
renters
themselves.
I'm
wondering
how
that
plays
into
this,
or
is
that
the
case?
Maybe
I
misheard
that
before,
but
it
sounded
like.
Are
we
talking
about
individual
accounts
here,
one
to
three
people,
that's
held
by
one
of
the
renters
in
their
name
or
could
it
be
held
in
the
landlord's
name?
E
What's
the
what's
the
scenarios
for
that?
Does
anyone
know.
A
F
So
I,
and
just
because
of
the
the
number
of
there's
still
the
breakdown
based
on
number
of
occupants,
for
instance,
I
have
one
account
that
has
up
to
eight
occupants
on
that
one
city
account,
and
so
it's
gonna
stay
in
that
seven
to
nine
occupant
category,
and
so
because
it
would
only
be
you
could
only
do
it
for
a
one
to
three
occupant
residence.
F
E
Answer
yeah,
I
think
so
so
it
doesn't
sound
like
it's
probably
going
to
be
a
problem,
but
it
still
could
be
an
issue
we'll
see.
I
guess
we
have
to
see
what
happens,
but
I'm
just
a
little
concerned
that
might
happen
that
landlords
might
just
go.
I'm
gonna
if
they're
paying
it
directly
and
not
really
charging
their
tenants
directly.
It's
just
part
of
the
rent
they
might
try
and
save
costs
by
just
you
know:
changing
100
accounts
over
to
a
lower
rate.
If
they
have
the
small
enough
units,
we
might
see
a
big
change.
E
G
Wants
to
explain
this,
but-
and
this
is
something
I
missed
the
first
time
I
read
through
this-
but
if
you
have
the
draft
ordinance
in
front
of
you,
that's
highlighted
there
is
going
to
be
my
understanding,
a
review
where
it
says
from
may
through
april.
The
container
slash
week
there'll
be
a
review
because
the
number
of
tenants
also
often
changes
from
one
school
year
to
the
next.
So
andy.
Maybe
you
can
elaborate
on
that,
and
that
would
be
a
way
to
monitor
that.
B
Thank
you.
Most
leases
in
athens
are
tied
to
the
ohio
university
school
year.
I
mean
that's
just
the
way
that
things
operate,
so
they
are
a
may
through
april
lease
with
move
out
in
many
cases
happening
really
at
the
end
of
april,
or
that
first
week
in
may
and
so
understanding
that.
B
Residents
often
change
in
rentals
during
that
window,
there's
a
provision
for
if
someone
has
opted
for
a
the
one
can
rate
and
they
desire
and
they're
they're.
They
live
in
a
rental
and
they
rent
and
they
desire
to
maintain
that
and
they
intend
to
stay
in
the
their
location.
B
They'll
need
to
request
that
that
gets
extended
into
the
following
year,
and
and
really
we
think
that
is
just
a
protection
given
the
fact
that
that
you
know
so
often,
particularly
if
it's
a
student
who's
getting
ready
to
move
on
and
they
leave
their
apartment.
There's
no
reason
for
them
to
notify
the
city
and
say
hey.
B
So
as
people
opt
for
this,
we'll
make
sure
that
they
know
that
if
you're
going
to
and
really
what
we're
talking
about
here
are
folks
who
are
you
know,
families
who
rent,
who
may
be
in
residence
for
an
extended
period
of
time
and
just
don't
intend
to
stay
there
just
a
year
and
then
and
then
move
on
that
come
the
end
of
april.
They'll
need
to
continue
to
opt
for
that
one
can
rate
in
the
future
here.
A
Remember
spielness.
H
Okay,
so
perhaps
I
should
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
what
happens
if
somebody
opts
for
a
one
can
raid,
but
they
overflow,
and
they
have
bags
hanging
out
what
happens
to
people?
What
are
the
consequences
of
that
and
what
happens.
B
There
is
a
extra
bag
charge
if
you
note
there,
so
it's
5
25
for
each
extra
bag,
above
and
beyond
the
amount
of
cans
that
you
currently
have
assigned
to
your
account
or
the
category
that
you're
in.
So,
if
you
go
beyond
the
can,
that
is
assigned
to
your
account,
you
put
out
extra
bags,
you'd
pay,
five
dollars
and
25
cents
for
each
additional
bag
special
halls,
and
this
is
for
the
things
that
are
above
and
beyond
bags.
D
B
Name,
it
is
based
on
a
cubic
yardage
rate,
which
we
have
a
list
where
we
have
estimated
cubic
yards
for
a
twin
mattress
versus
a
double
mattress
versus
any
variety
of
other
things
are
billed
at
15
and
75
cents,
and
so
that's
for
the
things
that
are
outside
of
your
your
garbage
can
that
you
put
up
along
the
curb.
C
C
Standardized
cans
come
in
a
variety
of
sizes.
Obviously
mr
deluxe
mentioned
composting.
Composting
will
be
part
of
that
conversation,
and
you
know
how
we
can
possibly,
as
some
cities
have
done,
not
modernized,
but
that's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
using
technology
to
make
the
accounting
process
smoother
and
more
accurate.
So,
yes,
I've
visited
with
the
two
big
box
stores
in
town,
lowe's
and
menards,
and
there
there's.
When
you
get
past
a
certain
size,
they
have
improved
the
wheels
on
those.
C
So
there's
a
35
gallon
heavy
duty
can
that
might
become
our
new
one
can
rate
the
next
one
is
at
64.
because
use
two
on
those
30
and
32
gallon
containers.
Those
wheels
were
just
those
little
hard
ones,
and
after
about
two
or
three
weeks,
they
were
all
busted
off
and
people
didn't
like
to
use
them.
So
yes,
I
I
think.
C
Of
course,
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn,
but
that's
the
city
safety
services
committee
that
will
be
discussing
that
with
the
administration
on
what
would
be
best
going
forward
and
we'll
take
that
up
in
the
fall.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you.
Any
members,
no.
D
B
A
Let
me
get
mr
sir,
your
turn
thank
you.
J
My
name
is
tony
faryon.
I
live
out
on
the
vel
road.
I
represent
bobcat
rentals
here
in
athens,
ohio.
We
have
about
70
units
right
around
the
in
this
community
alan.
I
want
to
congratulate
you
you're,
a
leader.
That's
what
leaders
do
they
stand
up?
They
see
a
problem
and
they
solve
it.
Andy.
Thank
you
very
much.
You
saw
a
problem,
you
stood
up
and
you
took
care
of
it.
F
That
an
individual,
whether
a
renter
or
a
homeowner,
it
says
it's
for
a
may
through
april
april
term
for
the
the
rentals,
but
suppose
you
know,
even
if
a
lease
starts
in
in
may,
the
tenants
move
in
in
may,
but
they're
not
really
aware
of
the
option
to
switch
or
and
are
tenants
able
to
switch
without,
even
if
the
account
is
in
the
landlord's
name.
C
B
During
the
month
of
november
and
say,
hey,
I'm
not
generating
enough
trash,
so
one
of
the
two
can
rate,
then
by
all
means
they
can
opt
and
that's
just
what
we
do
with
owner
occupied
folks
now
as
well.
They
opt
into
it.
It's
just
that
that
reset
really
needs
to
be
inserted
to
protect
the
to
protect
the
city,
so
that
you
know
you
don't
have
accounts
that
are
in
that
status
forever.
B
B
So
if
it
goes
to
utility
customer
at
such
address
and
that
person
then
comes
and
makes
the
request,
certainly
we
could
do
that
and
make
the
change
and
then,
if,
if
they
were
to
over,
you
know,
accumulate
trash
or
put
out
more
trash,
then
it
would
go
into
the
special
hall
category.
K
Just
oh
remember,
zip,
I'm
still
down
here.
I
just
had
one
question
just
to
make
sure
make
sure
I'm
understanding
everything
right.
So
if
because
I
have
a
I'm,
a
renter
and
I've
lived
in
the
same
house
for
almost
six
years,
so
it
would
just
be
every
april
come
in,
say
opting
for
the
one
can
rate
if
I
wanted
to,
and
then
that
would
just
clear
me
up
the
next
year.
Come
back.
Do
the
same
thing,
pretty
much.
B
Correct-
and
you
know
we're
fortunate
enough
that
you
know
we
have
a
small,
relatively
small
community.
I
mean
right
now,
there's
you
know,
as
of
today,
there's
there's
200
25
452
accounts
that
are
on
the
two
can
rate:
that's
both
owner
occupied
and
renters
and
and
882
accounts
that
are,
on
the
one
hand
rate,
and
it's
not
that
many
particularly
you
know.
B
We've
got
some
pretty
seasoned
staff
in
utilities,
billing
that
know
people
and
that
I
know
the
community,
and
so
if
they
know
that
you
know
andy
stone
lives
at
123,
elm
street,
which
is
not
a
real
address
and,
and
you
know,
is
a
long-term
renter,
they
may
say
hey.
Do
you
intend
to
stay
on
the
same?
B
One
can
rate
you
know
I'd
like
to
think
we
probably
can't
catch
everybody
that
way,
but
you
know
I
like
to
think
that
in
in
you
know
a
small
community,
you
can
extend
that
a
little
bit
extra
level
of
personal
service
to
folks
when
you
know
the
circumstances
like
like
yours
exist.
K
Thank
you,
yeah,
and
I
didn't
mean
to
imply
like
oh
what
a
hassle
for
me
to
come
down
to
the
place
where
I
already
come
all
the
time
but
yeah
that
is
really
good
to
know
and
yeah.
Just
to
further
said
what
you
said:
they
do
a
great
job
down
there,
they're
really
really
nice
people
yeah,
have
a
good
conversation.
A
A
High
tech,
the
low
tech
paper
we're
talking
about
disposal
of
two
vehicles
from
the
municipal
court,
one
is
a
2007
ford
expedition
and
with
the
various
serial
numbers,
and
the
second
is
a
1999
ford
taurus
with
its
serial
numbers,
and
essentially
it
just
says.
Well
what
do
I
need
to
do
to
get
these
started
so.
B
Aware
of
this
particular
request
to
dispose
of
these
vehicles,
but,
but
certainly
it's
it's
not
unlike
anything
else
that
that
we
do
when
we
go
to
dispose
of
capital
items
and
that
you
know
once
the
van
and
and
vehicle
number
comes
here
before
this
body
and
this
body
approves
of
disposal
for
a
title
piece
of
equipment.
We
can
go
ahead
and
dispose
of
it.
A
So
it'll
be
the
usual
type
of
ordinance
where
we
say
we'll
dispose
it
either
by
donation
through
auction
internet
and
so
on.
A
C
B
We
have
gotten,
I
believe,
one
enterprise
vehicle
that
was
delivered
beyond
that.
We
anticipate
several
more
probably
coming
here
within
the
next
couple
months
to
answer
your
first
question
of
whether
or
not
we'll
replace
these,
I
don't
know
again.
Unfortunately,
I
was
not
aware
of
this
particular
request.
I
came
outside,
given
that
this
is
under
a
separate
elected
official
right.
It's
not
through
the
city
administration.
This
request
came
directly
to
council
and
I'm
not
tracking
it.
B
However,
the
city
mechanics
do
maintain
that
portion
of
the
fleet,
so
I'll
look
into
the
situation
and
and
get
more
details.
Thank
you.
A
As
far
as
I
know,
they're
not
being
replaced,
of
course
that's
up
to
the
municipal
court.
They
can
decide
what
they
want.
Oh.
A
Yep
anyone
else
have
any
comments
on
this.
A
Okay.
That
concludes
transportation
committee
and
we
will
move
on
finance
and
personnel.
There's
several
items.
There
remember
crowl,
myself,
remember
zip
and
the
member
spielness
at
the
dyess,
the
rest
of
you
depart.
D
If
I
understand
correctly,
we
currently
have
staffing
at
the
fire.
Department
are
firefighters,
lieutenants
and
then
three
captains,
and
then
the
chief
we
have
of
those
three
captains
has
rather
quickly
retired.
D
And
is
the
third
one
the
gentleman
who
may
take
on
that
sole
position,
dr
record
stone,
yeah?
Okay,
so
the
idea
is
to
to
have
a
similar
organizational
structure
as
the
athens
police
department,
which
has
one
captain
who's
more
of
an
administrative
position,
operational
position-
and
this
I
believe
you
know
this-
has
to
be
worked
with
the
with
the
union.
D
There
has
to
be
an
mou,
etc,
but
as
these
retirements
are
happening
and
and
the
city
administration
is
looking
at
some
of
the
opportunities
that
presents,
they
are
considering
this
move
to
a
one
captain
organization
which
oh,
let's
see
here,
you
know
I'll
turn
this
over
to
director
stone,
to
talk
about
sort
of
the
financial
implications
of
this,
and
maybe
some
of
the
other
reasons
for
the
recommendation
director
stone.
B
Certainly,
thank
you.
Member
crowd.
There's
a
couple
different
reasons.
We
think
the
time
is
right
to
make
this
change
and
and
really
I'm
trying
to
do
this
in
a
collective
manner
working
with
members
of
the
department
working
with
the
union
that
represents
both
the
lieutenants
and
the
firefighters
so
that
you
know
this
is
not
an
imposed
thing,
but
it's
a
kind
of
a
collective
effort
to
really
look
at
it
and
try
to
organize
the
department
in
the
best
manner
looking
forward
into
the
future.
B
You
know
one
of
the
interesting
challenges
with
the
the
fire
department
and
the
the
current
structure
is
that
there
are
three
captain
positions
which
are
in
charge
of
the
shifts.
Those
captain
positions
are
non-union
supervisory
positions,
they're
unique
in
our
non-union
pay
and
benefits
ordinance.
B
If
you,
if
you
read
in
the
non-unpaid,
benefits
ordinance,
it's
unique
to
that
particular
category
of
employee
due
to
the
way
that
they
work,
they
work
a
2496
schedule
versus
a
2080
schedule,
which
is
the
number
of
hours
in
a
given
year,
and
that
has
to
do
with
that
24-hour
shifts
that
they
go
and
work
and
they
govern.
And
so
there's
a
significant
amount
of
language
in
the
in
the
non-union
and
paid
benefits.
B
It
talks
about
those
captains
and
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
is
there
tends
to
be
a
a
decrease
over
time
in
the
in
the
gap
between
a
captain
and
a
and
a
lieutenant,
ultimately
in
the
fire
department.
Insofar
as
what
that
causes
is,
that
is
that
we,
we
just
don't
have
lieutenants
that
ought
to
be
captains
when
they
come
open
because
they
say
why.
Why
would
I
want
to
do
that?
Why
would
I
want
to
give
up
a
week
of
vacation,
and
why
would
I
want
to
really
not
take?
B
You
know,
take
a
pay
cut
ultimately
or
potential
pay
cut
by
opting
into
that.
So
so
what
ends
up
occurring
is
that
junior
firefighters
are
the
ones
ultimately,
that
that
end
up
testing
to
become
captains
and
the
leaders
of
the
department
when
they're,
really
not
the
most
qualified,
or
at
least
not,
I
don't
say
qualified,
but
the
most
experienced
personnel
inside
the
organization.
And
so
we
think
from
a
shift
leadership
perspective,
a
better
structure
would
probably
be
to
have
lieutenants
lead
those
shifts.
B
And
so
what
we're
proposing
is
that,
given
that
we've
been
presented
this
opportunity
with
one
captain
leaving
very
quickly
with
you,
know
about
36
hours
notice
as
to
when
he
would
retire
and
then
another
captain
who's.
Given
a
couple
months
of
notice.
B
Those
two
are
departing
at
the
same
relatively
the
same
time
that
we
would
go
ahead
and
and
make
that
remaining
captain
into
an
administrative
40-hour
position,
not
unlike
what
we
have
in
the
police
department
right
now
and
then
have
the
shifts
led
by
lieutenants
and
create
a
three
more
lieutenants.
Ultimately,
so
that
you
have
a
lieutenant
at
each
station
in
a
given
standard
shift
and
then
you've
got
the
firefighters
that
are
that
are
underneath
them.
Then
that
reside
each
station
as
well.
B
Ultimately,
this
will
grow
the
department
by
one
person
you
know.
So,
if
you
can,
you
know
think
right
now,
there's
three
three
captains
there's
three
lieutenants.
Ultimately
there
would
be
six
lieutenants
and
one
captain.
So
that's
you
know
seven
officers
below
the
chief
versus
six
that
are
below
the
chief
right
now
and
then
we
keep
the
same
number
of
firefighters,
so
it
will
have
an
expense.
B
You
know
compared
to
today
we're
working
on
the
numbers
right
now
to
make
sure
that
we
know
that
completely
and-
and
like
I
said,
I
don't
want
this
to
be
contentious.
I
want
this
to
be
a
arrangement
that
everybody
feels
good
about.
B
You
know
the
the
structure
of
the
department,
so
I'm
working
with
the
the
members
of
the
union,
both
representing
the
lieutenants
and
the
firefighters,
to
ensure
we
have
a
situation,
and
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
a
windfall
to
anybody,
but
I
think
that
it
could
be
a
you
know:
a
good
structure
for
the
department
moving
forward,
particularly
given
that
we're
looking
at
building
a
new
headquarters
and
then,
as
we
think,
about
the
out
years.
B
You
know
if
athens
grows
and
we
ever
got
to
the
point
where
we
would
add
a
third
station
somewhere
in
the
community.
I
mean
that
that's
you
know
not
completely
unheard
of.
If,
if
you
had
a
situation
where
athens
grew
by
ten
thousand
people
and
and
that
could
happen,
you
know-
I
mean,
as
we
look
at
the
you
know-
potential
future
of
ohio
university.
B
We
look
at
the
intel
plant
coming
in
east
of
east
of
columbus
and
and
if
we're
fortunate,
you
know
athens
really
kind
of
balloons
and
I
would
say,
balloons
but
grows
here
in
the
in
the
next
couple
decades,
and
so
we
think
this
structure
would
be
able
to
accommodate
that.
B
A
little
bit
better
if
we
got
to
that
point
and
we'd
be
setting
the
conditions
for
that
in
the
future,
for
not
very
much
expense
today,
so
you
know
that's
our
thinking
like
I
said
I
still
have
some
details
to
work
through
on
all
this.
Ultimately,
what
I
see
coming
forward
would
be
a
change
to
the
staffing
ordinance
as
one
piece
of
legislation.
B
A
change
to
the
non-union
benefits
ordinance
would
be
a
second
piece
of
legislation,
specifically
moving
that
captain
into
that
40
hour
a
week,
employee
and
then
the
third
would
be
an
mou
that
would
have
financial
implications
that
would
accompany
the
current
collective
party
agreement
we
have
with
that
particular
union.
So
I
see
those
kind
of
all
happening
concurrently.
B
Concurrently
is
if
I
can't
work
out
those
other
two
details
to
to
be
at
an
acceptable
level
that
we
seek
to
have
the
staffing
ordinance
modified
beforehand
to
reduce
the
number
of
captains
on
the
books,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
there
is
a
provision
in
the
ohio
revise
code
that
says
that,
within
60
days
of
a
vacancy
of
a
vacancy
coming
open
in
a
public
fire
department
that
you
have
to
promote
into
that
position,
and
so
if
we
don't
intend
to
do
that,
the
only
way
that
we
could
avoid
breaking
the
law
would
be
to
actually
remove
the
position
from
the
book.
B
K
Thank
you,
member
cross,
yeah
director
tonight
I
had
two
well.
I
had
two
one
you
already
answered.
I
was
just
you
know.
I
know
that
if
a
position
does
become
vacant,
we
have
to
promote
somebody
into
it,
but
it's
a
great
idea
and
then
to
have
have
any
of
the
current
firefighters.
Has.
This
already
been
talked
about
with
any
of
them
and
has
there
been
like
general,
decent
support,
or
I
mean
I
could
I
only
asked
just
because
I
I
can
envision
a
scenario
of
of
having
a
lieutenant
in
charge.
K
It
one
at
station,
one
one
in
station
two
and
the
potential
of
of
head
butting.
Sometimes
you
know
in
high
stress
situations
without
having
someone
like
a
captain
who's,
the
only
one
on
shift
with
that
I
mean,
I
guess,
there's
the
whoever
gets
there
first
is
in
charge,
but
I
mean:
has
it
been
a
fairly
positive
response
from
them
or.
B
So
to
answer
your
first
question:
first,
we
have
had
discussions
with
the
the
whole
department.
Ultimately,
we've
had
a
couple
labor
management
meetings
on
this
already.
You
know,
we've
met
with
the
who,
who
ultimately
will
be
the
remaining
captain
and
talk
with
him
pretty
extensively
about
it.
It's
our
intent
myself
and
the
chief.
That
is
that
that
you
know
the
senior
lieutenant
by
seniority
is
the
one
that
clearly
is
defined
as
as
in
charge,
even
though
there's
the
same
the
same
rank.
B
B
Members
of
the
union
members
sewing
currently,
captains
are
not
members
of
the
union
and
lieutenants
are
members
of
the
union.
C
Okay
and
going
from
three
to
six
would
actually
have
a
net
increase
in
union
membership.
Then
would
we
correct
okay,
good.
B
Which
is
similar
to
the
structure
in
the
police
department
right
right
now,.
F
Briefly,
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done
on
this,
because
it
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
for
as
far
as
they
the
challenge
of
finding
individuals
who
who
want
to
be
promoted
to
that
captain
position
because
of
that,
the
differential
not
being
enough.
So
I
I
appreciate
the
the
work
and
the
creativity
to
try
to
find
a
a
long-term
solution.
D
D
Would
like
to
change
the
title
of
one
of
the
prosecutor
positions
and
that
would
be
changing
the
title
from
prosecutor
to
assistant
law,
director,
slash
part-time
prosecutor,
and
you
have
the
the
job
description
on
your
on
the
drive,
and
this
has
been
great,
approved
and
graded
and
placed
in
the
pay
band
by
our
hr
director,
and
this
position
would
continue
in
the
same
pay
band.
It
would
be
pay
band
9,
since
it's
not
supervisory
in
nature.
D
This
candidate
would
start
in
mid-may,
so
law
director
would
like
this
to
be
considered
and
discussed,
and
the
ordinances
start
next
week,
just
to
remind
everybody.
The
law
director
is
a
30
hour
per
week
or
three
quarter
time
position
and
she
would
like
to
have
someone
who
can
officially
be
her
assistant
to
help
her
in
civil
matters
and
if
you
read
through
the
job
descriptions
the
job,
the
job
description
advising
this,
this
council
would
also
be
possible
for
when
the
law
director
is
not
available.
I
C
B
You
know
the
law
director
provides
tremendous
support
to
our
operation
and,
and
she
works
very
hard
on
civil
matters.
You
know
that
are
outside
of
the
prosecutorial
duties
of
that
office,
so
I
generally
support
her
request.
D
Okay,
members
of
the
public,
any
questions
on
this
matter.
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
arts.
Excuse
me
the
outdoor
recreation
council
of
appalachia
orca.
I
believe
this
body
or
some
of
us
who
were
here
a
long
time
and
those
of
you
who
were
paying
close
attention
over
the
past
few
years.
D
There
was
a
request
a
number
of
years
ago
for
a
90
000
annual
membership
fee
to
become
a
member
of
the
council
of
governments
of
the
outdoor
recreation
council
of
appalachia,
and
for
a
time
we
discussed
a
a
20-year
commitment
to
that
membership,
and
that
was
we
did
we
elected
not
to
follow
that
route
without
the
county,
also
committing
to
the
same
the
same
payment
schedule.
Ultimately,
the
county
did
not
commit
to
that,
and
so
we
are
now
considering
this
membership
fee
on
an
annual
basis.
D
I'll
just
note
that
orca
has
reached
out
to
the
county
for
a
significant
sum
from
their
arpa
dollars,
and
I
think
the
commissioners
are
discussing
that
and-
and
I
believe,
want
more
information
on
that.
D
Heard
I
don't
know
if
the
city
administration
has
any
input
on
whether
they
have
considered
the
the
annual
fee.
Is
that
part
of
that
request
from
for
to
use
the
arpa
funds?
Are
they
considering
the
orca
fee
separately.
B
D
That
was
my
understanding
too,
but
but
so
this
will
come
up
on
next
week
a
recommendation
to
once
again
be
a
member
of
the
council
governments
of
the
outdoor
recreation
council
of
appalachia
at
the
cost
of
nine
thousand
dollars.
Any
questions
from
the
committee.
H
Welcome
response.
Thank
you,
member
crawl,
given
that
it's
a
lot
of
money-
and
I
know
we've
discussed
this
and
I've
heard
advantages
before,
but
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
those
listening
and
for
the
audience
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
we
get
for
that
money.
C
Like
to
take
that
comment
a
step
further-
and
I
know
we
can't
get
this
tonight
because
it's
quite
a
bit
of
information,
but
what
I
would
like
to
see
are
two
things:
how
much
money
each
of
the
other
public
entities
contributed
in
2020
and
2021,
in
other
words,
all
of
the
other
public
entities,
cities,
villages,
townships,
whatever
that
are
part
of
orca.
C
C
And
then
I
guess
the
third
thing
is
a
question:
this
90
000.
This
goes
for
operations.
This
is
not
for
trail
building.
C
I
guess
part
three
would
be
clarification.
What
is
the
ninety
thousand
dollars
for
that?
We're
being
asked
to
to
spend,
which
I
assume
is
out
of
what
tourism
money
is
that,
where
it's
coming
from.
J
G
G
Actually,
our
share
of
the
transient
gas
tax
goes
into
the
general
fund,
so
that's
where
this
would
be
paid
out
of
and
we
we
well
back
in
19
we
brought
in
about
225
000
in
that
we
pay
60
thousand
dollars
to
the
economic
development
council
for
membership
every
year,
so
that
if
you
go
with
200
000
that
loses
down
to
140
000,
which
would
cover
the
90
000..
So
technically,
that's
what
we
are
using
that
money
for,
but
it's
actually
going
to
come
out
with
general
funds.
D
Other
questions,
yes,
remember:
do
you
have
a
question?
Oh.
B
Taken
down
the
two
questions
or
the
three
questions
that
I'll
get
answers
back
to
this
body,
it's
as
good
a
place
as
any
to
bring
this
particular
issue
up
because
it
doesn't
fit
anywhere
else
in
the
in
the
committee
in
the
committee
business
tonight,
but
we
talked
about
transit
guest
tax
briefly,
and
I
did
want
to
give
a
brief
report
to
council
about
the
the
software
that
we
currently
subscribe
to
to
track
short-term
rentals.
B
We
got
our
first
report
on
short-term
rentals
in
the
city
of
athens.
Right
now
we
have
16
advertised
short-term
rentals
in
the
city
of
athens,
four
of
which
are
permitted
so
based
upon
that
that
first
report,
we
subsequently
will
begin
our
enforcement
actions
based
upon
the
legislation
that
was
passed
last
year
to
go
in
and
wrangle
up
the
additional
12
that
currently
are
being
advertised
but
are
not
permitted
as
rentals
inside
the
city
of
athens
and
and
those
are
to
pay
transit.
Yes,
taxes
so.
B
There
there
is,
I,
you
know
if
there's
a
software
program
or
basically
a
subscription
to
a
web-based
program
that
the
code
office
using
their
operating
budget
has
subscribed
to
that
allows
us
to
basically
comb
the
various
websites
that
are
out
there
and
cross-reference
it
with
addresses
and
look
at
number
of
nights
that
are
being
you
know,
booked
it's
a
pretty
comprehensive
way
to
to
look
for
this,
and
so
you
know
when
you
advertise.
H
B
D
D
Okay,
moving
on
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
arts
west,
once
again,
arts
parks
and
recreation
and
emily
beveridge
has
done
a
nice
job
with
receiving
grant
monies,
and
there
is
a
grant
from
the
klein
penny
educational
fund
that
we
will
be
used
for
the
after-school
arts
supplies
and
music
lending
library
in
the
amount
of
four
thousand
dollars.
D
B
D
And
appropriated
for
you,
thank
you,
members
of
the
public.
Okay,
thank
you.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
prior
year
bill,
I
could
go
into
some
detail,
but
I
probably
get
it
all
confused
auditor.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
this?
This
is
the
workman's
compensation,
third
party,
that
it's
actually
a
bill
from
2019,
I
believe,
but
not
at
the
fault
of
the
city.
D
G
Back
in
2019,
we
had
some
changes
in
the
hr
department,
the
invoice
we
received
an
invoice
and
it
was
paid,
but
the
payment
was
applied
to
a
different
payment,
and
so
for
these
years,
which
were
just
kind
of
been
able
to
figure
out,
what's
been
going
on,
because
the
comp
management
company
that
handled
our
bwc
issues
was
sold
by
to
sedwick
is
who
we
deliver
deal
with
now,
cedric,
and
so
anyway,
we
owe
about
5
800
for
that
bill,
which,
technically,
if
we
had
any
serious
event,
could
cause
us
a
problem
not
likely,
but
it
will.
A
J
I
I
I
think
what
we
wouldn't
want
to
do
is
risk
the
policy
being
shut,
shut
off
turned
off,
and
it
would
take
more
time
probably
to
explain
it.
What
had
happened
than
to
just
pay
this
and
suspend,
suspend
the
rules,
and
we
can
ask.
G
A
Well,
I
want
to
understand
from
your
your
explanation:
we
we
really
did
pay
it,
it's
just
that
they
credited
to
the
wrong
place.
Did
I
hear
that
right?
Okay,
so
it's
really
their
fault.
I
mean
you've
done
your
due
diligence.
You
did
everything
you're
supposed
to
do
and
now
they're
coming
back
and
saying.
Well,
we
want
our
money,
even
though
you
gave
it
to
us.
We
just
put
it
somewhere
else.
A
G
G
D
G
G
C
C
We
owe
a
bill
for
services
that
we'll
never
have
to
take
advantage
of,
because
people
aren't
going
to
file
a
workman
compensation
claim
in
2022
for
a
period
which
we
haven't
paid
the
bill
for
yet
what
I'm
getting
as
I
concur
with
mr
mr
reisner
on
this.
I
see
no
need
to
to
rush
this.
We
can
do
our
three
readings
and
we'll
send
them
the
money.
G
I
already
said
I
don't
care
if
you
suspend
or
not,
we
owe
the
money
you
know
that's.
You
know
we
voted
for
quite
a
while,
like
I
said
there
were
some
changes
and
issues
in
hr
personnel.
You
might
say
just
from
not
having
people.
We've
had
people
in
and
out
of
there
for
the
last
few
years,
and
you
know
that's
just
really
all
that
was,
but
the
fact
is
we
owe
the
money
we've
owed
it
for
a
long
time.
G
B
This
is
the
third
party
administrator
that
manages
claims,
not
unlike
a
our
third
party
administrator
that
manages
claims
for
the
health
insurance,
the
city
being
a
health
insured,
self-insured
organization.
You
know,
pools
money
into
a
fund
and
then
there's
a
third
party
administrator.
That
acts
like
an
insurance
company
in
approving
and
denying
claims
routing,
folks
to
a
particular
type
of
in-network
versus
out-of-network
providers,
and
such
this
is
the
same
program,
but
it's
for
the
workers,
comp
pool
of
money
and
as
an
employer,
we're
compelled
to
have
someone
function
in
that
capacity.
B
You
know
managing
those
those
claims,
and
so
that's
what
this
is
just
to
clarify
what
it's.
For
my.
I
have
no
opinion
on
the
you
know
paying
in
in
suspension
or
not
that's.
D
Thank
you
for
that
additional
information,
other
comments
or
questions.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
appropriations,
we
have
three
appropriations
on
tonight's
agenda.
The
first
is
for
work
at
the
oakmont
lift
station,
so
this
would
be
an
appropriation
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
in
the
amount
of
35
000.
D
I
believe
the
oakmont
lift
station
needed
more
work
than
was
anticipated.
I
think
approximately
eleven
thousand
dollars
have
been
spent
and
it's
been
determined
that
an
additional
thirty
five
thousand
would
be
needed
for
those
repairs.
A
B
And
so
there's
not
a
situation
where
we're
you
know
polluting
the
creek
or
anything
along
those
lines,
but
the
building
is
having
some
structural
problems
and
we
placed
some
money
in
the
budget,
hoping
that
it
would
be
some
minor
repairs
and
we've
determined
it's
a
little
bit
more
substantial.
So
it
will
not
exceed
50
000.
So
we
don't
need
to
to
bid
this.
A
D
Other
members
of
council,
our
committee
members
of
council,
other
members,
administration
public
any
comments.
Okay,
next
appropriation
is
four
thousand
dollars
to
the
recreation
fund
for
the
arts
west
grant,
as
previously
discussed
from
the
klein
penny
educational
fund,
any
questions
or
comments
on
this
appropriation.
D
Anyone.
Anyone
thank
you,
and
the
last
item
is
100
000
to
the
general
fund
auditor,
and
this
is
for
income
tax
refunds.
Auditor
would
like
to
speak
to
this
at
all.
G
Sure
we
knew
this
was
coming
as
far
as
the
refunds
and
the
changes
in
the
law
because
of
coven.
So
in
the
past,
for
several
years
we
have
appropriated
250
000
for
refunds
and
that
covered
it
sometimes
pretty
close.
G
But
for
I
don't
know,
I
want
to
say
maybe
10
years
this
year
we
did
ask
for
350
000
in
our
refund
line,
which,
because
we
knew
there
would
be
more,
but
it
looks
like
there's
even
more
than
we
realized,
and
so
right
now
we
have
actually
processed
or,
as
of
late
last
week,
212
thousand
dollars
out
of
that
350..
G
G
On
the
last
time
we
hit
this
amount
of
212
000
and
I
went
back
to
2019,
because
2020
and
21
were
normal
years
as
far
as
tax
collection.
We
didn't
hit
that
amount
until
november
after
the
october,
extensions
were
filed
and
processed.
G
L
G
D
Further
questions,
members
of
the
public
okay,
finally,
tonight
I'd
like
to
congratulate
director
stone's
global
family
and
your
son's
national
award
and
the
picture
in
the
local
newspaper
was
fabulous
the
global
christmas
card
there.
I
believe
you
were
overseas
at
that
time.
Right
and
the
family
was
here
anyway,
congratulations
to
aj
and
that
is
finding
some
personnel.