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Athens City Council - March 13, 2023
B
Thank
you
good
evening
and
welcome
to
Athens
city
council.
It's
Monday
March
13th
at
7
p.m,
and
tonight
we
are
having
a
series
of
committee
meetings
and
I.
Think
I
will
revert
to
our
usual
format
where
we
have
City
and
Safety
Services
committee
up
here
and
then
the
other
committee
members
down
at
the
other
table
are
City
and
Safety.
Services
is
chaired
by
council
member
McCary
and
joined
by
council
members,
Grace,
Swank
and
Crowell.
B
C
You,
president
nicely
we
have
four
items
on
our
city
and
Safety
Services
committee
agenda
this
evening,
beginning
with
single-use
plastic
bags.
One
of
our
committee
members
has
been
part
of
a
small
work
group
and
you've
heard
presentations
and
updates
from
council
member
Swank
I'll
allow
him
to
drive
this
discussion.
D
Okay,
since
I've
been
talking
about
bags
for
some
time
in
our
meeting
last
Monday,
where
we
had
first
reading,
there
were
several
concerns,
questions
that
came
up
both
from
members
of
council,
the
administration
and
citizens
of
Athens
and
basically
boiled
down
to
three
areas.
So
maybe
we
can
start
with
the
the
what
I
would
consider?
Probably
the
easiest
one
first
and
the
question
came
up,
who
is
going
to
enforce
this?
D
In
other
words,
who
will
be
the
Regulators
of
of
bags
I'm,
going
to
defer,
after
a
very
very
brief
statement
to
the
administration
on
this,
because
to
me
this
seems
like
an
administrative
decision,
Council
passes
ordinances
and
the
administration
then
takes
care
of
making
sure
that
those
ordinances
are
followed.
We
have
a
code
office,
we
have
a
police
department,
we
have
a
fire
department,
they
take
care
of
those
things.
D
I
would
never
want
this
Council,
and
this
is
my
personal
opinion
to
pass
an
ordinance
that
would
place
an
undue
burden
on
what
are
already,
in
many
cases,
stretched
thin
services
that
we're
able
to
provide
whether
it's
due
to
budget
Personnel
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
The
way
it's
written
right
now
in
the
original
intent
working
with
the
law
director
is
that
this
would
be
enforced
by
the
city
police.
It
would
be
complaint
driven
like
so
many
things
are
in
this
city.
D
You
see
it
I
think
we
even
have
things
in
schools,
see
it
or
those
of
you
have
children.
What
is
it
see?
It
say
something
yeah
there
you
go.
My
kids
are
oh
gosh,
38
and
41.
that's
hard
to
believe
it's
been
a
while,
since
they
were
in
public
school,
but
you
see
something
say
something
same
thing
here:
someone
walks
out
of
a
store
with
14
plastic
bags,
simple
call
to
the
police
department.
So,
and
so
is
we'll
pick
on
council
member
ziff
walking
out
of
donkey.
D
I
know
you
don't
but
walking
out
a
donkey
with
these
bags
and
the
police
respond
and
take
care
of
it.
So
that
said,
I
know
there
were
supposed
to
be
discussions
this
week
code
and
from
the
notes
that
Debbie
sent
us
code
and
and
police
says
to
what
would
be
a
desirable
or
possible
means
of
enforcing
this
ordinance.
Should
it
pass.
E
D
F
It
would
depend
it
would
depend
on
the
ordinance
and
how
it
was
structured.
There
have
been
ordinances
in
the
past
that
are
very
prescriptive
as
to
what
the
process
is
when
there's
an
enforcement
element
to
it,
there's
others
to
where
it's
just
up
to
Administration,
to
identify
or
figure
out
the
way
in
which
to
enforce
something.
I'll.
F
Give
you
a
great
example,
for
it
being
vague,
which
led
to
a
number
of
problems
was
the
face
covering
ordinance
which
was
vitally
needed
at
the
time,
but
it
was
also
pretty
non-descript
in
terms
of
the
way
in
which
that
particular
ordinance
was
to
be
enforced.
We
opted
to
use
law
enforcement
because
they
were
out
on
the
streets
and
able
to
to
deal
with
something
like
that
under
a
state
health
emergency.
D
E
It's
a
delayed
process
that
can
be
empowered
to
to
file
a
notice
of
violation.
They
don't
have
the
same
ability
to
to
file
a
charge
that
has
to
go
through
the
prosecutor's
office,
so
that
is
a
way
to
to
do
it
as
it's
written.
Currently,
my
understanding
is,
it
would
be
solely
a
police
enforcement
action.
E
I
think
we're
still
researching
that
that
issue
right
now.
As
far
as
preference
goes,
reference
would
be
not
to
put
the
burden
on
the
already
stretched
Police
Department
right
now
and
if
there's
a
way
to
empower
code
office
sensibly,
can
do
that
if
the
police
ultimately
ask
to
to
enforce
this
as
a
minor
misdemeanor
as
written,
it
certainly
will
will
do
that
and
we'll
follow
how
the
ordinance
is
passed,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
that
correctly
and
that
we
understand,
but
we're
charging,
how
we're
charging
for
an
offense.
E
There
are
questions
that
we
have
about.
Are
we
funded
the
citation
against
the
the
bagger,
where
we
file
a
citation
against
the
manager,
the
owner
of
the
business
and
on
the
most
local
level,
that's
fairly
straightforward?
We
know
who
the
owner
is
and
there's
a
person
to
answer.
For
you
have
larger
organizations
you
send
a
minor
mismeer
citation.
We
want
to
make
sure
it
gets
to
the
right
person
to
be
answered.
For
you
know,
Walmart
is
a
very
big
organization.
E
E
That's
that's
correct.
We
had
our
our
discussion
with
the
co-director
David
Riggs
and
with
our
police
chief
Tom
Pyle
and
chief
Pyle
is
actively
contacting
other
cities
that
have
these
these
bands
to
understand
how
they
do
the
enforcement,
the
actual
on
the
ground
enforcement,
not
just
how
the
ordinances
are
written
in
that
City,
but
how
they
they
go
through
the
process.
So
baxley's
an
example
that
he's
contacted
their
police
chief
and
talked
to
them
on
how
they
do
the
actual
enforcement
with
their
bag
ban
and
the
feedback
we've
gotten
back
so
far
is
they
haven't?
E
They
haven't
written
a
single
Citation
for
their
bag
ban.
There's
a
it
sounds
like
there's
an
on
the
ground
delay
between
when
they
start
actually
doing
those
citations.
Most
of
their
efforts
have
been
in
education,
getting
the
business
on
on
board,
so
we're
just
trying
to
understand
how
other
places
do
it,
so
we
can
can
do
it
effectively
and
it's
not
just
being
put
out
there
and
we're
trying
to
figure
it
out.
On
the
back
end.
G
You
McCary
I'm
all
for
giving
the
city
Administration
the
time
that
they
need
to
get
this
right.
I
think
this
is
a
really
important,
ordinance
and
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
communities,
particularly
in
Southeast
Ohio,
that
look
to
Athens
for
how
to
do
this.
The
right
way,
it's
a
sustainability
piece.
G
It
is
a
part
of
our
waste
management
and
we
have
become
something
of
a
model
for
other
communities
to
to
make
their
communities
follow.
Ours,
and
so
I
would
love
this
to
be
as
great
as
we
can
make
it
and
it
to
be
a
symbol
or
a
model
for
other
communities
to
embrace
so
I
am
in
support
of
this
extension.
Thank
you.
H
You
so
in
the
conversation
with
Bexley
I'm
curious,
they
said
that
there
was
no
citations
written,
but
is
that
because
people
are
ignoring
it
or
because
people
are
just
embracing
it
without
having
to
be
monitored,
there's
a
big
difference
and
I
think
that
in
in
Athens,
people
will
embrace
it.
Maybe
not
everybody,
but
I
think
people
will
embrace
it.
So
enforcement
may
not
be
that
complicated.
E
D
I
can
answer
that
I've
had
three
conversations
with
their
sustainability
director.
They
actually
have
a
full-time
person
on
City
staff.
Their
compliance
is
very,
very
high.
That's
also
part
of
my
fundraising
territory
and
in
my
last
four
trips
to
Bexley
it's.
This
is
what
you
see,
or
even
better
people
bringing
their
own.
D
B
D
C
D
Point
number
two
had
to
do
with
food
trucks.
We
talked
about
buildings,
but
what
about
food
trucks?
And
there
were
members
of
the
audience
that
brought
that
up
the
city
on
city
property
could
regulate
that.
But
then
someone
could
plunk
a
food
truck
down
at
the
BP
station
here
and
then
from
there
which
they
have
in
the
past.
D
C
F
A
comment
you
know:
if
we're
going
to
go
amending
the
bending
peddling
and
soliciting
section
of
code
which
speaks
to
being
permitted
to
vend
in
identified
locations
through
this
in
within
the
city
in
the
public
right-of-way
that
we
also
include
in
there
the
something
that
speaks
to
plastic
three
by
23
that
addresses
Cutlery
or
any
other
Plastics.
That
may
come
from
those
food
trucks
as
they're,
dispensing
whatever
it
is
they're
selling
in
terms
of
food
to
where
it
has
to
be
something
other
than
bamboo
Forks,
whatever
wooden
towards
something,
that's
non-plastic
as
well
as
straws.
F
C
D
D
They
fully
plan
to
phase
it
in
and
we
passed
ordinances
here
before
that
we
knew
weren't
perfect
to
start
with
and
and
I
respect.
What
the
mayor
says
my
my
gut
reaction.
You
know
what
let's
get
it
done,
if,
if
the
arm
has
gangrene,
let's
cut
it
off
where
it
needs
to
be
cut
off,
I
mean
that's
a
bad
comparison,
but
you
understand
what
I'm
saying:
let's
not
Whittle
away
at
it
again.
D
In
my
conversations
with
the
folks,
you
know
up
there
and
perhaps
Mr
chicky
when
you're
talking
with
those
folks
about
the
enforcement
part,
you
might
explore
that
also
to
get
a
a
second
opinion
on
that,
but
they're
backing
off
of
that,
even
though
it
is
in
their
ordinance
yeah,
the
quicker
we
get.
This
cleaned
up,
including
walk
down
the
hallway.
We
have
a
six
foot.
Six
and
a
half
foot
tall
machine
there,
spitting
out
plastic
bottles
right
here
on
city
property,
I
mean
it's,
it's
a
big
lift,
it
is
but
I
agree.
D
H
So
it
occurred
to
me
based
on
what
you
all
just
said,
that
it
might
be
helpful
to
phase
in
different
parts
of
this,
so
in
other
words,
elastic
bags
this
year,
forks
and
something
down
the
road
further
to
sort
of
lessen
the
blow
and
a
tent.
No,
you
don't
like
that.
Maybe
okay!
Well
just
a
suggestion
for
conversation,
Mr.
F
I
would
yeah
I
mean
we
have
a
resolution.
The
council
came
forward
with
last
year
at
the
end
of
last
year,
that
says:
plastic
free
in
23.
I
up
until
the
end
of
this
year
to
make
sure
that,
for
any
event,
that
takes
place
in
the
public
right-of-way
or
on
public
lands
that
they
will
no
longer
be
selling
Distributing
whatever
any
anything
that
is
going
to
be
in
a
plastic
container.
F
You
know:
plastic
cups,
plastic
bottles,
plastic,
Cutlery,
that's
my
mission
based
upon
that
resolution
and
I'm
bound
to
it
not
only
bound,
and
it's
a
one
reason,
one
reading
resolution,
which
has
no
teeth
to
it.
I
mentioned
that
from
that
last
council
meeting
I
respect
that
resolution,
because
I
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
to
phase
something
when
I
have
something
that
already
exists,
that
has
a
deadline.
F
F
Of
them
right,
it
is
to
your
point
about
the
vending
machine
out
in
the
hallway
absolutely
and
we're
working
on
that
as
well
to
where
it's
going
to
have
aluminum
cans
in
it
at
some
point
in
the
near
future.
But
you
know
I
I
strongly
request
that
Council
not
phase
these
things
in
you
know
if,
if
well,
we'll
get
to
it
with
your
third
point.
D
D
I
went
to
Kroger's
and
walked
the
aisles
today
and
product
bags
or
anything
from
the
bag
that
your
potatoes
come
in
the
bag
that
your
loaf
of
bread
comes
in
the
bag
that
you
put
your
bulk
product
in
anything
that
contains
a
product
you
go
over
to
you
go
across
the
street
to
Aldi.
They
sell
those
neat
little
cucumbers
in
a
little
plastic
bag.
Those
are
product
bags
and
talking
with
the
law
director,
she
thinks
it's:
okay,
just
product
bags.
D
D
This
is
single
use
bags
that
walk
out
of
the
store
holding
other
things.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
eliminate?
Not
only
the
plastic
part,
but
the
thing
we
haven't
really
talked
about
is
the
litter.
We
went
to
Asheville
North
Carolina
last
week
and
driving
home
I
ran
out
of
fingers
and
toes
counting
the
number
of
class
single-use
plastic
bags.
I
saw
hanging
from
trees
along
the
highway,
I
mean
it's
it's
a
real
problem.
It
really
is
so
that's
point
three
and
then
talking
with
the
law
director.
C
Councilman
for
Swank,
it
is
my
recollection
that
the
law
director
provided
some
optional
definition
for
a
product
bag,
but
are
you
sharing
that,
instead
of
going
in
that
direction,
instead
of
providing
a
specific
definition,
we'll
just
stick
with
product
right?
Yes,
sir?
Thank
you
and
you
mentioned
there
might
be
an
additional,
not.
C
B
D
B
D
D
Ultimately,
Council
will
need
to
vote
on
this
ordinance,
sent
it
to
the
mayor
for
his
approval
or
back
for
work.
Hopefully
have
it
right
when
we
send
it
to
him,
could
take
another
month
that
could
take
another
two
months
but
I'm
operating
for
under
the
assumption.
From
what
we've
heard
from
the
citizens
of
Athens,
what
I've
heard
from
Council
that
more
than
likely
we're
going
to
pass
this
tomorrow,
it's
gonna
be
on
the
front
page
of
the
paper.
Businesses
have
four
and
a
half
months
to
make
that
transition.
D
D
He
was
nice
enough
to
give
me
the
invoice
and
I
know
exactly
how
many
bags
he
has.
We
get
another
influx
of
Ohio
University
students
this
summer.
He
may
be
able
to
get
rid
of
all
those
bags
by
August
one,
but
I
think
everybody
else
can
get
rid
of
them.
I've
been
in
contact
with
the
company
out
of
Florence
Kentucky,
the
company
is,
they
have
nine
names.
One
of
them
is
Duro,
they
sell
double
life
bags.
These
are
the
Cadillac
of
paper
bags.
D
D
32
cents,
what
one
of
these
costs
and
that's
the
best
bag
you
can
buy
on
the
market
comes
with
handles
I
meant
to
load
it
up
with
some
weights
to
carry
up
here,
so
you
can
see,
but
four
and
a
half
months
to
make
the
transition
of
taking
any
plastic
bags.
You
have
in
your
store
out
the
big
box
stores,
as
I
said
last
week,
will
put
them
on
a
pallet
and
send
them
back
to
a
central
distribution
place.
D
I
I
have
a
hard
time
believing
there
are
many
businesses
in
this
town
that
have
a
stockpile
of
paper
bags
that
they
simply
can't
use
those
up
over
the
next
four
and
a
half
months
plastic
and
begin
replacing
with
these
or,
more
importantly,
or
maybe
even
better,
encouraging
people
to
bring
their
own
because
that
reduces
even
this.
So
talking
with
the
law
director,
says
your
call
and
by
your
students,
Council,
but
I
still
think
we
can
get
this
done
by
August
1st.
Just
this
past
Thursday,
the
wreath
things
Plastics
had
a
an
event.
D
B
F
It
can
certainly
explore
the
timeline
in
more
detail,
but
I
need
to
get
more
info
from
those
who
have
that
do
not
have
a
central
Warehouse
somewhere
that
they
can
just
send
their
product
back
to
with
the
hopes
that
it
gets
sent
to
Wisconsin
Illinois.
Well,
no
Illinois
doesn't
allow
for
bags
anymore,
Chicago
doesn't
no
no
somewhere
wherever
it's
going
well,
we
did.
We
meet
with
auba
right
here
three
weeks
ago
and.
D
G
D
You
know
we
talked
about
that
with
the
folks
at
Bexley
and
it
it
just
and
their
thought
was
it
added
one
more
enforcement
item
so
solve
is
walking
down.
The
street
she's
got
this
bag:
okay,
great
she's,
using
a
great
bag,
but
you
know
what
I
need
to
make
sure
you
have
the
right
bag
and
I,
and-
and
we
chuckle
about
it
and
I-
don't
mean
to
be
lied
about
by
any
means.
That
might
be
a
step
too
far
far.
It
might
be
a
step
too
far.
D
I
I
think
we
can
certainly
encourage
this,
and
this
goes
back
to
something
I
said
a
long
time
ago,
and
the
mayor
actually
comment
on
he
kind
of
liked.
The
idea
I
would
love
to
see
an
official
Athens
branded
bag.
No
matter
what
store
you
go
into
now:
I'm,
not
taking
away
a
store's
right
to
put
what
they
want
on
their
bag,
but
if
they
want
to
participate,
we
could
take
advantage
of
economies
of
scale
and
purchasing
just
think
of
the
Cooperative
effort.
D
You
have
a
store
and
you
run
out,
run
next
door
you're
in
the
restaurant
business,
or
you
were
one
time.
You
know
people
run
from
restaurant
to
restaurant.
They
ran
out
of
milk,
run
next
door
and
see
if
they've
got
a
gallon,
they
can.
They
can
loan
us
same
thing
here.
You
run
out
of
bags,
you
run
down
the
street
and
we
can
do
that.
It
kind
of
builds
a
sense
of
community
we're
all
in
this
together
and
when
I
was
in
Asheville
I.
D
C
Thank
you,
member
Swank
and
remember
crowl
for
that
question
comments
and
questions
from
Administration
and
I
see
at
least
one
hand
in
the
audience.
If
you
would
mind
coming
to
the
podium
sharing
your
name
and
your
address
and
if
you're,
representing
yourself
or
an
organization
before
you
share
your
comments.
I
I
I
We
encourage
you
to
bring
your
own
bags,
so
if
a
big
organization
like
Goodwill
can
do
that
and
I
told
all
my
employees
about
it,
and
we
ask
people
and
I
would
say
right
now
about
40
percent
of
our
customers
decline
a
bag
anyway
and
when
they
get
one
they
get
an
old
Kroger's
one.
So
they
are
getting
they're,
not
single
use,
they're
at
least
double
use.
Those
plastic
bags,
but
I
think
if
everybody
knows
and
gets
on
board-
and
we
put
up
signs
now
telling
customers.
I
I
C
J
Is
myself,
my
name
is
Craig
dickelman
I
live
at
111
Grosvenor
in
Athens,
just
a
quick
question.
The
plastic
bags
that
are
currently
in
existence
all
over
town.
How
do
we
dispose
of
them?
Is
there
going
to
be
a
central
location,
bring
your
own
bag
sort
of
thing,
because
we've
got
to
get
rid
of
the
ones
we
have
right.
J
C
K
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
Athens
Farmers
Market
is
currently
collecting
Plastics,
that
once
they
have
a
certain
number
of
pounds,
they
can
send
it
in
and
get
a
bench
and
I
know,
there's
a
collection
space
at
at
the
farmer's
market.
So
if
you
have
a
stash
in
your
broom
closet
or
under
a
kitchen
sink
as
I
know,
many
many
people
might
have
and
you're
looking
for
a
worthy
use,
because
we
cannot
put
film
Plastics
in
our
our
curbside
recycling.
K
J
H
Well,
I
couldn't
resist
asking
about
where
those
benches
are
going
to
go
because
being
on
The
Pedestrian
accessibility
committee.
We
would
love
to
have
more
benches
along
our
walkways
and
I'm
wondering
if
that's
possible.
I
know
this
is
changing
the
subject
a
little
bit
but
being
brought
it
up.
So
I
couldn't
resist.
K
K
C
You
everyone
for
the
discussion
we'll
need
to
move
on
to
our
second
item,
although
the
plastic
bags
are
extremely
important.
Our
next
item
is
information
technology
Network
Management
Services
contract.
This
is
an
annual
outsourced,
technological
support
that
we
pursue
and
we
are
looking
to
empower
our
City
Safety
Services
director
to
renew
our
current
contract.
It's
a
12-month
contract
with
a
budget
not
to
exceed
2000
K
in
a
year
and
I.
Wonder
if
Mr
chicky
has
anything
you'd
like
to
share.
E
E
C
Thank
you
and
just
to
add
some
additional
services
that
these
contracts
provide
remote
monitoring
and
management
data,
backup
monitoring,
antivirus
patch
management
system,
administration
and
more.
We
affirmed
the
ordinance
for
this
contract
unanimously
last
year
in
February,
and
if
anyone
has
any
questions
from
Council,
we'll
take
them
at
this
time
or
comments
from
yes,
Reisner.
L
E
E
Those
kinds
of
things
really
need
to
have
a
team
of
Security
Experts
that
know
what
they're
doing,
rather
than
just
some
some
general
people
and
with
go
to
it,
which
is
the
company
that
we're
connected
with.
We
get
that
support,
which
is
really
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
those
kinds
of
things.
We
have
some
general
stuff
too,
that
we
just
keep
keep
going.
C
Other
questions
from
Council
or
comments
additional
comments
from
Administration
and
from
the
public
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
our
third
agenda
item,
one
that
we
have
been
talking
about
for
some
time:
project:
number:
317,
City,
County,
soar,
expansion,
a
resolution
of
tentative
award
just
for
folks
memory.
This
is
about
bringing
a
store
into
Dairy
Lane
and
start
installing
a
new
sewer
line
water
line
to
Richland
Avenue
a
project
also
includes
sidewalks
from
dairy,
Lane
and
I.
Wonder
if
Mr
chicky
has
anything
he'd
like
to
share
with
us.
E
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chicky
questions
from
Council
or
comments
and
additional
things
from
the
administration
from
our
audience.
Horrific,
we'll
move
on
to
our
fourth
and
final
agenda
item
for
City
and
Safety
Services
committee
this
evening,
senatory
sore
easement
Dairy
Lane
related.
Would
you
care
to
provide
an
update,
yeah.
E
This
this
easement
it's
a
little
different
than
then
what
we
normally
do,
which
is
that
we
Grant
easements
this
one
or
receive
an
an
easement
in
order
to
to
go
through
a
property,
that's
state-owned.
So
what
we're
asking
for
is
Council
to
authorize
that
we
receive
the
easement
as
opposed
to
authorizing,
giving
an
easement.
C
E
The
general
location
along
Dairy
Lane
for
that
that
seriesment
is
to
as
I
understand
it
to
do
a
blank
here,
shut
down
two
Deer
Lane
itself,
including
a
lift
station
I'm.
Looking
to
you,
because
I
can't
remember
this
exactly
now
and
then
moves
to
to
Richland,
Avenue
and
then
we're
crossing
the
river.
So
it's
close
to
the
dairy
barn
I
want
to
say
on.
E
H
C
B
K
Thank
you,
president
nicely
excuse
me.
We
have
two
items
on
our
agenda
for
this
evening.
The
first
item
is
to
amend
ordinance,
106
21,
which
granted
Dr
May's
Thai
Kitchen
a
use
of
the
public
right-of-way
for
a
sign,
and
we
are
being
asked
to
amend
that
to
expand
the
usage
to
include
three
private
parking
spaces
for
Dr
May's
Thai
Kitchen,
that
at
at
this
time,
that
is
the
only
change
that
we
as
Council
are
being
asked
to
consider.
K
K
H
Members
be
on
this.
Thank
you
just
for
a
little
bit
of
clarity.
So
if
we
make
this
change,
will
that
allow
Dr,
May's
Thai
Kitchen
to
open
up
because
Dr
May
was
upset
about
how
long
this
has
taken,
which
kind
of
I'm
hoping
that
this
kind
of
delay
for
a
seemingly
small
issue
isn't
happening
to
other
small
businesses,
so
I
just
want
to
get
some
assurance
that
should
be
done.
K
So
that
is
is
what
needs
to
happen
to
allow
the
business
to
proceed
and
that
that
is
not
something
that
council
is
involved
in,
and
so
the
delay
in
opening
is
not
related
to
the
parking
spaces.
However,
I
believe
it
may
be
that
she
needs
those
parking
spaces
for
the
permitting
to
proceed
for
for
her
Commercial
Kitchen
business
there.
But
this
this
the
parking
issue
is
not
holding
things
up
and
is,
is
a
fairly
straightforward
issue.
K
But
those
are
different
things
and
I
believe
the
original
permit
did
say
on
it
that
it
was
a
I
hope
I'm.
Getting
the
correct
word
that
it's
a
use
permit
only
it
is.
It
did
not
meet
the
criteria
for
construction
or
remodel
change
of
to
a
commercial
kitchen,
but
I
believe
code
enforcement
is
working
with
Dr
may
make
sure
that
the
steps
needed
to
be
able
to
open
are
clear.
But
again,
that
is
a
separate
issue
than
use
of
the
right-of-way
for
parking.
C
You,
member
Grace
and
thank
you
member
skillness
I,
appreciate
council's
care
for
doing
what
we
can
to
make
things
easier
for
small
businesses
to
thrive
and
I
appreciate
our
code
offices.
Interest
in
clarifying
steps.
I
would
hope
that
other
small
businesses
would
reach
out
to
our
Code
Enforcement
office
or
to
counsel
with
recommendations
on
things
that
we
can
do
to
make
things
less
bureaucratically.
Red
tape,
confusing.
K
F
I
think
you
did
a
fine
job
of
getting
through
it,
but
yes,
I
I
believe
that
there
was
a
misunderstanding
as
what
was
being
permitted
and
in
particular
parking
when
the
thought
then
being
well
we'll
park
in
the
public
right-of-way
and
as
a
business.
You
can't
just
randomly
decide
that
you're
going
to
take
up
three
parking
spaces
and
park,
not
that
Dr
May
was
randomly
doing
anything.
I'm
just
saying
is
part
of
the
process
to
go
through.
F
If
that
is
a
requirement,
but
I
said
business
that
it
should
have
been
addressed
sooner,
that
this
is
what
is
required.
This
is
what's
needed
and
therefore
things
may
have
gone
more
smoothly
for
Dr
may,
but
I
have
to
I
would
contend
that
doc.
That
I
was
going
to
say
Dr
Riggs,
that
that
director
Riggs
did
do
a
great
job
of
making
sure
he
was
able
to
get
everything
in
alignment
and
moving
forward.
K
M
My
name
is
Nathan
and
Dr
May's,
my
wife
and
I'm.
The
other
kind
of
partner
in
the
business
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
this
issue,
and
it
sounds
like
everyone's
kind
of
in
line
with
this,
but
just
to
to
clarify
a
little
bit
for
some
folks.
That
might
not
know
these
are
parking
spaces
on
Hudson,
not
on
East
State
Street,
and
they
have
been
parking
spaces
for
a
very
long
time
with
the
previous
businesses.
K
H
K
H
That
was
really
the
opposed
or
a
problem
for
us
now
that
we
have
to
be
quite
as
extensive
as
they
did,
but
and
I.
Think.
A
big
issue
was
they're
concerned
about
noise
ordinance.
Now,
if
the,
if
an
outdoor
restaurant
closes
during
those
hours
where
the
noise
noise
ordinance
is
an
issue,
then
it
would
be
hopefully
less
onerous
on
the
police
to
try
to
monitor
noise.
So
that
seemed
like
a
reasonable
addition
as
well,
so
does
outdoor
dining
mean
breakfast
lunch
and
dinner.
Does
it
mean
you
know
how?
How
exactly
do
we
look
at
that?
G
K
So
I
I
have
searched
different
kid:
different
cities,
Zone
zoning
ordinances
and
codes
and
have
not
found
a
lot,
that's
specific
to
outdoor
dining
and
I
guess
some
things
that
I
think
would
make
sense
to
address
and
could
be
included
in
this
ordinance
is
in
our
our
city
code.
We
have
a
definition
for
restaurant
and
in
Athens
city
code,
a
title,
2310
or
definitions.
It
says
restaurants
and
establishment
where
food
and
drink
are
prepared,
served
and
consumed
primarily
within
the
principal
building.
K
But
then
in
our
sections
regarding
business
zones,
B1
and
B3,
we
reference
eating
and
drinking
places
in
240404
and
eating
and
drinking
establishments
in
24
or
230407,
and
so
I
think.
Perhaps,
if
we're
going
to
reference
eating
and
drinking
establishments
that
those
need
a
definition
or
that
language
should
be
clarified
as
to
because
I
know,
that
is
an
issue
that
has
come
before.
K
The
board
of
zoning
appeals.
What
actually
defines
an
eating
and
drinking
establishment
and
I?
Think
if
we
are
talking
about
places
that
include
carryout,
for
instance,
a
new
restaurant
on
Court
Street?
Has
it
I?
I
would
certainly
call
it
a
restaurant,
but
there
is
no
indoor
dining.
There
is
no
table.
K
Food
offered
for
sale
and
consumption,
either
within
the
structure
on
the
premises
or
in
a
designated
and
permitted
outdoor
area
or
a
business
establishment
within
which
the
primary
use
is
prepared.
Food
and
beverages
offered
for
sale
in
disposable
containers
and
packaged
for
carryout,
though
they
have
encompassed
a
lot
more.
In
their
definition
of
restaurant,
Dublin
defines
eating
and
drinking
a
facility
that
prepares
or
serves
food
or
beverages
directly
to
the
public
for
on
or
off-premise
consumption.
This
use
includes,
but
is
not
limited
to
sit
down
or
take
out.
K
K
We
don't
get
too
overly
specific
in
what
is
included
or
what
is
excluded
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
things
that
were
brought
up
in
terms
of
outdoor
dining
like
setting
different
hours
for
that
portion
of
a
business
as
opposed
to
the
other
other
parts
of
the
businesses
or
other
businesses,
because
I
think
that
even.
K
The
existing
businesses
within
the
city
of
Athens
that
already
have
some
form
of
outdoor
dining
vary
a
lot
and
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
come
up
with
terms
and
a
definition
that
would
accommodate
all
of
them
and
I.
Think
that
that
we
want
to
be
careful
about
placing
too
many
restrictions
on
on
what
is
meant
by
outdoor
dining
and
and
perhaps
allow
the
the
business
that
offers
outdoor
dining
to
operate
it
within
all
of
the
parameters
that
they
already
have
to
comply
with
to
operate.
K
K
People
to
comply
with
in
every
scenario
is,
is
unreasonable
and
so
I
think
we
expect
eating
and
drinking
establishments
to
follow
all
of
the
many
food
safety
laws
and
things
that
are
in
place
that
that
we
don't
dictate,
but
that
are
are
managed
by
the
health
department
or
the
state,
and
we
expect
them
to
comply
with
the
noise
ordinances
and
the
parking
and
the
occupancy
standards
and
and
I.
Don't
think
that
those
things
none
of
those
things
go
away
because
they
offer
outdoor
dining.
K
C
Thank
you,
member
Grace,
for
your
research
and
for
your
summary.
I
was
I,
guess
interested
in
the
two
definitions
you
shared
and
the
distinction
between
food
and
drink
being
consumed,
primarily
on
site
versus
another
one
that
that
doesn't
matter
on-site
or
off-site.
Do
you
have
a
leaning
one
way
or
the
other.
K
K
I
guess
that's
where
I'm
leading
but
I
this.
This
is
to
me
this
is
a
bigger
issue
than
allowing
outdoor
dining
at
existing
restaurants,
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
However
they're
they're
defined,
but
if
we
want
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
these
these
regulations,
then
this
is.
There
are
a
lot
of
options.
K
How
we
would
define
those
I
would
talk
to
director
Riggs,
but
possibly
ask
the
the
Planning
Commission
if,
if
they
have
had
a
discussion
or
have
a
recommendation
on
based
on
the
things
that
come
before
them
on
what
falls
into
what
category
and
how
we
Define
our
different
categories.
Thank
you
other
comments
or
questions
from
members
of
the
committee.
H
H
Perfect,
I'm
glad
that
you've
agreed
that
we
need
to
have
a
consistent
definition,
because
they
aren't
consistent,
which
was
one
of
the
issues
that
was
raised
and
why
I
brought
it
up,
but
I
think
I'm
not
going
to
name
the
place,
but
people
might
be
able
to
guess
my
West
Side
people
have
some
concerns
about
certain
establishments
that
are
noisy
and
I've
gotten
complaints
about
it
and
it
closes
at
midnight,
but
the
noise
ordinance.
If
I'm
reading
this
correctly
says
10
o'clock
each
day,
Sunday
through
Friday
and
hours
of
12.
H
K
L
H
H
D
Continue
this
discussion
and
to
jump
from
one
side
of
East
State
Street
to
the
other
in
June.
There
was
a
court
case
that
we
didn't
fare
too
well
in
in
regards
to
the
drive-through
down
on
East
State
Street,
and
the
court
was
very,
very
specific
and
I'm.
Not
an
attorney
and
I've.
Read
this
thing
47
times
since
I
got
it
today
and
I
still
don't
understand
it.
D
B
D
Public
document-
okay,
good
I,
will
forward
I
just
finally
got
done.
Reading
this
before
I
came
up
here.
I
will
forward
this
to
you.
I
think
this
is
something
we
need
to
consider.
So
my
question
is
this:
we
had
gotten
all
the
way
to
what
third
reading
on
this
and
when
we
tabled
it,
and
it
sounds
to
me
like
that
we
need
to
back
up
a
little
bit.
The
question
I
would
ask
for
the
chair
of
the
committee
is:
if
that
is
indeed
the
case,
and
what
do
you
think
is
is
prudent.
K
So
we
have
a
definition
in
our
code
of
what
is
a
restaurant
and
then
we're
saying.
Okay,
restaurants
with
Drive-Ins
and
drive-throughs
are
a
set
distance,
and
so
that
was
that
was
to
clarify
what
would
count
as
a
restaurant,
with
a
drive-in
drive-through
in
terms
of
distance
from
a
residential
Zone.
But
I
would
I
would
seek
further
clarification
and
then.
B
Right
so
so-
and
you
know
our
clerk
has
reminded
us
because
she
puts
the
agenda
together
for
the
next
meetings.
Yes,
so
that
would
be
next
week,
so
one
possibility
either
you're
providing
the
update.
Tonight
you
need
an
extension
and
the
other
possibility
is:
do
you
want
to
return
it
to
the
planning?
Commissioner.
K
K
If
I
mean
I,
can
I
can
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
insert
a
definition
for
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
It's
going
to
go
in
this
section
of
our
code,
but
because
of
Sunshine
laws.
As
far
as
what
we
like,
we
can't
sit
together
in
a
group
and
hash
these
things
out
other
than
here
in
committee
and
so
I
can
meet
with
director
Riggs
and
get
his
input
into
it
and
then
bring
it
back
next
week
with
here's.
K
Here's
my
recommendation
for
how
we
amend
and
include
these
but
I,
also,
if,
if
other
members
of
council
have
really
strong
feelings
about
different
issues
and
I
I
put
in
the
time
in
director,
Riggs
puts
in
the
time
to
to
work
out
those
amendments.
And
then
it's
it's
not
going
to
be
acceptable
to
other
members
of
council.
K
B
Is
your
sense
just
process
wise
we
either
and-
and
this
is
an
unusual
week
because
Thursday
and
Friday
if
the
weather
holds
we're
doing
the
switch
over
on
the
the
generator
for
City
Hall
and
the
offices
are
going
to
be
closed,
Thursday
and
Friday,
so
that
agenda
need
that
the
changes
need
to
be
here
by
Wednesday
and
I.
Think
that
sounds
the
sounding
a
little
quick
for
people
to
review.
There's
an
option
to
bring
back
proposed
changes.
Two
weeks
from
now
at
the
next
committee
meeting,
I,
think
and
Mr.
F
And
between
now
and
Wednesday
will
not
be
happening
because
David
Riggs,
director
Riggs,
is
not
in
the
office
of
the
entire
week.
So
that's
not
going
to
happen
anyway.
I
would
also
contend
for
Council
to
send
this
to
the
Planning.
Commission
means
a
significant
amount
of
time
to
go
through
that
process,
because
with
the
identification
for
Council
is
that
the
process
becomes.
It
comes
to
the
Planning
Commission
as
a
communication.
We
take
it
up.
We
consider
it
for
maybe
two
weeks
later
to
come
forward
as
a
case.
F
It
might
require
some
debate
during
that
period
of
time
to
where
it
could
be
delayed.
Another
two
weeks
I
think
that
Council
should
go
through
its
normal
process.
As
council
member
Grace
was
saying,
come
forward
with
the
language.
What
you
think
is
responsible
and
the
appropriate
thing
to
do,
and
let
Council
work
its
way
through
whatever
that
definition
I,
like
your
two
definitions
by
the
way
and
I,
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
morph
what
was
it
Dublin
and
and
Bexley.
Yes,
take
the
two
and
more
from
together
and
create
something.
D
D
Yeah
because
at
the
mayor's
point
this
was
first
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission
on
August,
the
18th
yeah
I
watched
the
video
today
August
18th,
so
yeah
it
could
take
a
while.
But
again,
my
original
point
is
that
this
is
not
it's
an
important
matter,
but
I
don't
think
people
are
banging
down
the
doors
right
now
saying
we
have
to
have
this.
K
It's
unusual,
so
I
I
with
the
support
of
administration
and
president
nicely
will
work
on
language
to
bring
this
back
to
committee
with
specific
proposals
for
definitions-
and
you
know
specific
language
for
an
amendment
but
we'll
discuss
again
in
Committee
in
two
weeks
and
then
would
be
introduced
as
an
amendment
when
it's
removed
from
the
table
the
following
week
as
a
potential
plan.
Yes,
members
to
be
on
this
yeah.
H
K
I
have
okay,
there
are
some
by
the
way,
just
for
anyone
out
there
watching
or
listening.
Athens
is
not
the
only
city
that
has
some
conflicts
in
terms
of
how
we
list
things
in
certain
sections
of
our
code
and
what
is
defined
in
the
definition
section,
because
there
there
were
some
similar
things
in
Oberlin
sure
that
it's
like
oh
well,
this
is
reference,
but
then
there
was
there
was
no
definition
for
it,
so
I.
But
if
yes,
so
yes,
okay!
That
concludes
this
committee.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
your
participation,
yeah!
I
I
I
It's
absolutely
untenable
and
I.
Don't
know
that,
there's
anything
you
can
do
about
it.
I
know
it
already
went
through
the
Planning
Commission
and
unfortunately,
I
missed
that
meeting
last
week.
But
it's
a
really
big
problem,
and
not
just
for
me.
This
isn't
just
about
my
property.
It's
about
a
traffic
jam
of
magnificent
proportions,
potentially
on
State
Street,
and
all
of
this
is
because
at
some
point
just
blindly,
everything
was
turned
into
a
business
Zone
and
then
grandfathered
in
as
a
resident.
I
So
you
really
got
to
look
at
what
the
long-term
potential
damage
you
might
be
doing
to
various
other
residences,
particularly
on
the
east
side,
but
all
over
town,
where
they're
going
to
be
impacted
by
what
you're
doing
in
terms
of
the
the
distance
for
drive-throughs
I
mean
it's
now
within
20
feet
of
an
apartment,
building,
there's
going
to
be
a
drive-through,
so
just
think
carefully.
That's.
D
That
point
right
there,
if
I,
could,
as
you're
doing
your
research
to
save
you
some
time.
I
quote
from
the
court
decision.
It
is
certainly
reasonable
for
Council
to
want
to
limit
drive-throughs
to
restaurant
like
businesses
or
drink
businesses,
because
of
the
long
lines
that
may
be
generated,
which
may
even
spill
out
onto
the
roadway
foreign
consequence.
K
L
L
E
So
the
the
parking
garage
space,
three
we
completed,
phase
two
right
before
the
pandemic
phase.
Three
includes
three
specific
things.
The
first
is
installation
of
solar
on
the
top
of
the
parking
garage,
the
upper
level
and
to
improve
the
upper
level
we
use
it
occasionally
for
for
events,
we'd
like
to
make
that
a
space
that
we
can
can
make
available
or
more
things.
E
You
know
anecdotally,
when
I
go
into
the
garage
I'm
in
and
out
at
least
twice
a
day,
there's
at
least
one
vehicle
there
at
all
times
charging
so
we're
seeing
some
success
there.
As
far
as
people
utilizing
it,
we
want
to
make
that
a
place
for
people
to
be
able
to
charge.
So
those
are
the
the
three
pieces
of
that.
What
we're
asking
for
is
it's
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
The
breakdown
of
that
is
the
pay
station
and
Improvement
to
the
parking
access
is
approximately
200
000..
E
The
solar
system
is
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
portion
could
be
paid
for
with
the
the
carbon
fee.
That's
a
a
pot
of
money
that
we
could
could
look
at,
but
want
to
have
a
placeholder
in
there
for
the
for
the
rooftop,
solar
and
then
approximately
150
000
for
level
two
Chargers
the
remaining
visa,
and
that
that
was
already
in
the
the
previous.
D
E
So
so,
like
for
clarity
for
people
out
in
TV,
Land,
there's
a
we,
we
divide
the
parking
garage
into
lower
and
upper.
It's
kind
of
a
split
level
design,
which
was
very
popular
in
the
60s
and
70s
has
been
translated
over
to
our
parking
garage
as
well.
It
would
be
for
for
as
much
coverage
as
we
can
get
up
there.
We
have
a
couple
of
ground
leases
for
antennas
with
Sprint
and
Verizon
T-Mobile.
E
E
D
E
So
we
have
the
the
kioska
and
the
pay
system
we're
looking
at
different
options
for
for
servicing
those,
but
in
the
event
that
the
arm
is
stuck
down
or
somebody
wasn't
able
to
pay
and
it's
it's
created
a
blockage
like
that.
I
just
watched
a
video
just
the
other
day
with
a
backup,
I
think
it's
like
43
cars
backed
up
in
a
garage
and
they
had
two
exits.
We
have.
E
We
have
one
on
on
Washington
that
the
the
default
backup
we
have
24-hour
service
with
our
dispatch
with
Ed
and
our
parking
enforcement.
So
that's
our
fallback.
We
also
have
during
the
weekdays
until
midnight.
We
also
have
our
our
custodial
staff
that's
available
to
provide
assistance
which
they've
done
for
for
many
years
with
parking
garage.
L
F
Hopefully,
on
a
brand
new
system
that
something
like
that
won't
happen
for
five
to
ten
years,
but
I
mean
your
Point's
well
taken,
we
will
certainly
have
trained
staff
to
be
able
to
quickly
respond
and
get
the
gate
up
if
we
needed
if
we
started
seeing
that
there
was
a
problem
with
the
gate.
Now,
if
the
problems
with
the
person
that's
a
whole
different
issue
altogether,
welcome
to
Athens
so
enjoy
yours.
We
see
this
as
being
a
real
positive
Improvement
to
the
parking
garage
for
something
that
we've
all
observed
for
a
number
of
years.
F
You
know
I
see
it
I'll,
see
a
backup
every
now
and
then
with
someone
trying
to
get
change
for
a
20
Bill
coming
out
of
our
change
machine,
because
it
takes
10
minutes
for
that
much
change
to
come
pouring
out,
and
so
again
that's
going
to
be
an
improvement.
I
think
the
solar
project
is
going
to
be
a
vast
Improvement
up
there
as
well,
because
that'll
also
be
able
to
feed
energy
into
the
city
building.
F
E
I
guess
I'd
like
to
add
the
part
of
that
upper
level.
I've
talked
about
General
improvements
for
people
to
gather
up
there,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
from
the
design
standpoint
to
include
artwork
to
improve
the
space,
to
make
it
more
welcoming,
and
not
quite
so.
Drab
we've
done
a
lot
with
colors
and
with
coverings
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
you
know
when
the
base
is
being
used
and
people
are
parking
there.
Vandalism
is
is
a
lot
less
than
some
of
the
other
things
that
go
on.
L
F
F
To
me,
which
was
the
sixth
floor
of
the
parking
garage
upper
and
lower
six
and
came
forward.
Some
really
interesting
features
that
they
could.
They
felt
would
really
enhance
a
performance
space
activity
space
whatever
you
want
to
call
that
space
and
we're
going
to
try
and
incorporate
as
many
of
their
suggestions
into
this
as
well.
F
I
have
to
give
kudos
to
that
that
class
of
freshman
students
who
are
brand
new
to
OU
and
took
on
something
like
this
and
actually
even
dubbed
that
top
lot
was
there,
and
hopefully
they
were
trademarking
it
right
now,
because
they
want
to
capture
that
and
have
that
that
space,
whatever
it
becomes
be
called
top
lot
moving
forward.
But
so
it's
not
just
City
Administration.
It's
Ohio
University
students
who
have
been
looking
at
that
space
and
and
thinking.
How
can
we
be
more
creative,
with
our
use
of
public
space.
N
N
E
N
L
C
E
L
B
F
L
E
So
we
do
it
every
year
to
be
a
part
of
the
purchasing
program.
You
have
to
anticipate
how
much
you're
going
to
need
as
a
pre-buy,
which
is
very
difficult
to
do,
and
you
have
to
what
you
buy
you
have
to
take.
So
we
can't
buy
a
over
abundance
and
then
say:
Oh,
we,
you
know
we
don't
have
any
room
for
it.
L
E
L
L
L
L
L
L
Essentially
the
idea
the
the
bill
and
it's
some
I,
don't
know
18
or
19
pages
long
I
printed
it
out
tightens
up
regulations,
puts
more
regulatory
burden
on
the
the
railroad
owners
to
tighten
up
their
security
and
safety
requirements
of
the
the
rail
itself,
the
road
and
and
their
carriers
and
I.
Think
it's
a
personally
I
think.
L
I
did
some
further
research.
The
operator
of
the
of
the
road
is
a
company,
the
Kanawha
River
Railroad,
and
it
is
owned
by
another
company
called
Watco,
which
owns
several
other
smaller
railroad
operations.
The
one
that
we
have
here
in
within
Athens
is
considered
a
short
haul.
It's
a
secondary
Road,
not
used
for
primary
hauling,
but
it
does
see
traffic.
L
The
interesting
thing
is
the
company,
the
Kanawha
railroad
company
leases,
the
railroad,
it's
owned
by
good
old
guess
who
Norfolk
Southern
that's
right.
They
own
the
rail
and
consequently,
they
also
have
terms
where,
if
the
necessary,
they
will
haul
things
on
it.
It's
they
own
it.
They
also
provide
engines
and
other
apparatus
to
the
canal.
L
River
Railroad,
as
needed,
there'll,
be
some
out
to
them
and
and
operate
them.
So,
even
though
I've
been
on
that
track,
a
lot
I,
I
I,
take
video
pictures
and
things
sort
of
a
trail,
rail
fan,
type
of
thing
and
the
sections
that
goes
through
the
city
of
what
I
have
seen
and
walk
the
tracks.
It's
it's
it's.
L
L
A
L
L
F
Absolutely
have
the
city
come
forth,
your
resolution.
For
me
it
was
a
sign
on
letter
through
the
national
league
of
cities,
and
it
was
through
the
transportation,
infrastructure,
commission
or
committee
through
NLC
that
Brittany
Kohler
and
Company
put
that
out.
I
know
that
there's
a
number
of
us
as
Mayors
and
city
council
members
that
are
NLC
members
that
are
likely
signing
on
to
this
I,
don't
know
whom
but
I
certainly
signed
on
to
it
because
of
the
intent
behind
bringing
forward
safer
guard
rails,
no
pun
intended
or
the
rail
system.
L
K
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
just
because
we
are
talking
about
rail
safety
is
our
city,
Fire
Department
and
our
firefighters.
Do
a
lot
of
training
and
I
just
want
to
recommend
our
chief
and
our
city,
Administration
and
all
the
firefighters,
because
I
believe
as
a
small
City
in
a
rural
area.
We
do
have
really
well
trained
and
prepared
emergency
responders.
L
Well
speaking,
to
that
Norfolk
Southern
Company
that
just
announced
that
they're
starting
a
free
program
of
training
for
all
emergency
responders
within
the
state
of
Ohio
and
West
Virginia
I
think
this
would
be
prudent
that
the
city
would
look
into
that.
I
mean
free
is,
is
good
and
if
it's
actually
being
done
by
the
company
that
is
now
involved
in
a
really
major
public
relations,
Fiasco
I
would
imagine
that
the
training
would
be
pretty
good.
L
G
Thank
you,
president
Eisley.
We
have
I
believe
eight
items
on
our
agenda
for
tonight
and
all
but
one
of
them
are
regarding
grants
or
donations
to
the
city,
so
I'm
very
pleased
to
start
that
way.
The
first
item
is
the
no
pack
energized
Community
grant
program
this
grant.
We
are
a
member
of
no
pack
and
this
grant
provides
funds
to
nopec
member
communities
for
Energy
savings
or
energy
infrastructure
projects.
G
F
If
for
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
metal
Lane,
it's
not
too
far
from
the
public
library,
Athens,
Public
Library,
it
would
be
in
the
south
west
corner
of
what
is
otherwise
a
U-shaped
Street
sub
division.
Back
there,
the
city
owns
a
parcel
of
land
is
about
0.3
Acres,
the
Athens
Real
Estate
Association
was
able
to
acquire
a
national
realtors
association,
Grant
of
five
thousand
dollars
to
to
go
towards
a
pocket
park,
development
or
space
development.
That
site
was
identified.
F
We
still
have
a
couple
street
lamps
that
are
ready
to
be
deployed,
having
struggling
a
little
bit
with
where
to
place
them
over
in
the
fina
neighborhood,
so
they
might
find
their
way
somewhere
else
I.E.
Maybe
the
depot
steps
or
the
North
Congress,
slash
Columbia
steps
or
somewhere
we'll
find
a
place
to
put
them.
But
aside
from
that
again
back
to
your
point,
it's
going
to
be
for
Solar
Pathway
lighting
over
on
Meadow
Lane.
G
Thank
you
mayor.
If
I
understand
correctly,
this
is
not
a
traditionally
the
way
we
think
of
a
grant
program
of
applying
for
funds
and
then
either
getting
something.
I
said
this
is
an
automatic
sort
of
member
institutions,
get
a
set
amount
based
on
accounts,
so
it's
different
every
year
and
why
it's
gone
down,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
this
is
a
set
amount
we'll
receive,
and
it's
it's
using
it
for
these
projects.
That's
right,
that's
correct!
Thank
you,
mayor.
G
The
Athens
fire
department
received
a
a
FEMA
Grant
and
there
are
a
number
of
oh.
There
are
a
number
of
ideas
that
the
that
the
fire
department
has
for
the
FEMA
Grant
and
there
there
there's
two
specific
Appropriations
here
I'll
discuss,
but
they
the
the
fire
department,
would
like
to
replace
all
hoses.
This
is
13
000
feet
of
hoses
nozzles,
40,
nozzles
and
pump
intakes.
There
are
four
pump
intakes.
This
FEMA
Grant
has
a
10
match,
so
the
total
appropriation
needed
is
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars.
G
Approximately
a
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
dollars
will
be
reimbursed
upon
the
completion
of
the
project,
so
the
Appropriations
specifically
are
5
348
dollars
to
the
general
fund
fire,
and
this
is
for
the
service
fees
that
associated
with
this
grant
and
then
to
reach
that
130
000
Mark
I
just
mentioned
there
would
be
an
appropriation
of
124
652
dollars
to
the
general
fund
capital
for
that
hose
and
the
nozzle
replacement
that
I
just
mentioned.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee
on
this
FEMA
Grant?
Yes,
members.
If
thank.
O
You
mostly
just
one
quick
comment,
just
in
case
anybody's,
watching
that
and
hears
that
we're
going
to
spend
a
bunch
of
money
on
a
hose
if
you're
like.
Oh,
why
did
why
do
we
need
to
spend
all
this
money
on
hoses?
Well,
it's
because
realistically,
with
fire
hoses,
they
need
to
be
replaced
on
average.
Every
10
years
is
ideal.
You
can
stretch
them
to
maybe
15,
but
10
years
you
should
be
getting
new
hosts
in
there
like.
So
this
is
the
thing
that
needs
to
happen.
O
It's
not
like
your
garden
hose
that
you
just
let
sit
outside
for
25
years,
and
you
know
water,
your
daisies
now
and
then
this
is
a
very
specialized
highly
specially
crafted
piece
of
equipment
that
we
need
to
spend
money
on
in
order
to
keep
things
safe
for
the
people
here.
So
it's
money
well
spent.
Don't
freak
out
hearing
it's
money
for
a
hose,
though.
D
G
Thank
you,
member,
so
many
other
members
of
the
public
would
like
to
speak
to
this.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
under
Appropriations,
the
Athens
County
Foundation
fall
Grant
cycle
has
resulted
in
five
thousand
four
hundred
and
thirty
one
dollars
to
be
appropriated
to
the
recreation
fund
for
Arts
West,
for
their
production
coming
up
very
soon,
I
believe
called
once
and
if
you've
not
seen
the
movie
or
this
production,
it
is
quite
good
and
I
recommend
it
highly.
Are
there
any
questions
about
this
grant
for
Arts
West
from
the
committee?
G
Other
members
of
council,
the
public?
Okay?
The
next
item
is
a
grant
from
the
Thomas
and
Barbara
coaster
is
help
me
again.
Go
storage
because
storage
thank
you
fund
through
the
Athens
County
Found
Out
Foundation.
This
is
a
500
appropriation
to
the
recreation
fund
for
Arts
West
again
for
Arts
instructors.
G
E
G
Other
questions
from
the
public,
okay
and
the
next
item
is
a
donation
to
the
recreation
Capital
fund
in
the
amount
of
five
thousand
seven
hundred
thirty
five
dollars
and
83
cents.
This
was
a
donation
from
the
greater
Athens
Soccer
Association,
also
known
as
gasa
gasa
is
a
registered
501c3
organization
dedicated
to
youth
soccer
in
the
greater
Athens
area.
It's
primary
contribution
over
the
past
about
15
years
has
been
a
youth
soccer
league
co-ed
league
for
seventh,
eighth
and
9th
graders.
G
The
seventh
eighth
and
ninth
graders
fall
into
a
sort
of
a
gap
between
the
end
of
the
recreation
programs
in
sixth
grade
and
the
beginning
of
be
able
to
join
the
adult
leagues
at
the
age
of
16..
So
gasa
started
to
offer
this
league
to
for
youth
who
would
like
to
play
between
you
know
between
the
ages
of
sixth
grade
and
and
roughly
ninth
grade,
and
this
amount
was
specified
in
order
to
purchase
a
new
pair
of
full-sized
goals
to
contribute
to
the
Athens
Community
for
soccer
Recreation.
G
That
is
an
Athens
City,
School
District
project,
okay.
So
these
right
now
there
are
there's
one
pair
of
goals
at
the
Athens
Public
Library
field,
and
there
are
two
pairs
of
goals
down
at
the
new
space.
The
city
is
developing
at
the
West
State
Street
fields,
but
in
order
to
be
able
to
have
Community
Soccer
in
both
locations,
we
needed
another
pair
of
goals.
G
Okay,
so
this
provides
another
pair
of
goals
so
that
we
can
have
multiple
soccer
spaces
as
we
begin
to
learn
what
our
spring
season
is
going
to
do
to
these
locations
in
terms
of
storm
water
issues,
it
will
be
very
helpful
to
have
additional
spaces
that
could
be
used
or
watching
the
grass
and
being
able
to
transfer
back
and
forth.
Thank
you
great
question.
Other
questions
from
the
committee.
Other
members
of
council
public.
G
Okay.
The
next
item
is
a
two
thousand
dollar
grant
that
will
go
to
the
community
center
fund
from
co-ed,
and
this
is
for
specifically
for
child
care.
I
believe
this
was
a
small
piece
of
a
co-ed
Grant,
a
large
Child,
Care
Grant,
and
this
would
go
to
the
community
center
for
its
youth.
Child
Care
Program
questions
from
the
committee
on
this
Grant
on
the
members
of
council,
public,
okay
and
finally,
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
tonight
under
Appropriations
is
twenty
six
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
the
general
fund.
G
The
auditor
for
a
software
upgrade
the
Auditors,
the
the
the
software
company
that
the
auditor's
office
uses
is
requiring
them
to
upgrade
their
fixed
asset
software
application,
the
current
application
that
they
have
ends
in
July.
The
auditor's
office
did
report
that
they'd
already
upgraded
upgraded,
their
Finance,
Tax
and
payroll
applications,
and
that
was
in
2020.
G
So
this
is
their
final
application.
It's
a
docu
scan
application.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
the
the
final
one
they
will
need
is
a
docuscan
and
they're,
certainly
and
they're,
currently
working
on
upgrades
for
that
application.
But
the
auditor
is
not
aware
when
that
will
be
available
or
when
it
will
be
required.
G
G
A
G
A
G
G
F
Yeah
and
I
kind
of
want
to
go
back
to
something
on
the
councilmember.
Swank
said
it's
great.
You
know
when
you
indicated
that
it's
you
know
two
miles
of
of
Hose.
I.
Think,
more
importantly,
is
to
think
back
in
2014
when
we
had
the
West
Union
fire,
it
probably
had
every
bit
of
two
miles
of
Hose
within
a
one
block
space
of
of
real
estate.