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Athens City Council - February 27, 2023
B
B
But
it
is
a
mechanism
that
we
can
use
to
to
our
best
advantage.
Some
of
those
next
steps
will
involve
a
petition
to
create
the
community
Authority
and
that's
what
Mr
Reggie
is
here
to
help
us
understand
tonight.
We
do
have
a
draft
document
that
has
been
reviewed
by
our
law
director
and
she
says
that
the
sections
do
align
with
Ohio
Revised
Code
349.03,
the
initiation
of
proceedings
for
organization
of
a
new
community
Authority,
so
those
that
the
document
is
in
good
shape.
B
We
do
need
to
take
a
further
look,
probably
at
the
finances
working
with
our
city
auditor.
On
that
section
and
as
part
of
this
process,
we
will
also
then
be
having
a
public
hearing
before
we
would
initiate
any
kind
of
ordinance
to
move
this
forward.
So
Mr
Ritchie's
going
to
speak
to
us
for
about
10
minutes
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions
from
council
members
and
administration
or
comments,
and
then,
if
there
are
any
audience
members
who
want
to
ask
questions,
they
can
do
so
also
Mr
Reggie
welcome.
C
Thank
you
thanks
for
seeing
me
again
I'll
try
to
give
you
back
a
couple
of
the
minutes
that
I
took
the
last
presentation.
I'm
sure
I
went
over
my
10
minutes,
but
I
am
bringing
forward.
This
is
not,
as
you
said,
not
an
action
item,
but
just
that
update
we're
proceeding
with
the
concept
of
a
new
community
Authority
having
gained
approval
from
Ohio
University's
Board
of
Trustees,
to
pursue
this
approach,
subject
to
the
the
desire
of
the
city
of
Athens.
C
So
there's
a
there's,
a
fairly
complex
array
of
approvals
that
are
needed,
including
negotiating
all
the
exhibits
that
go
with
the
petition.
But,
as
you
said,
the
law
director
has
taken
a
look
at
it
to
meet
the
basic
standards
we're
being
represented
by
Caleb
Bell
of
Bricker
neckler,
who
has
a
lot
of
experience
with
it?
If
I
can
I'm
not
actually
sure
how
to
there,
you
go
there.
Okay,
this
is
the
road
map
for
The
Ridges,
a
very
simplified
one.
C
C
Actually,
after
about
30
months
of
research
and
and
presentations,
and
working
with
The
Ridges
advisory
committee
with
the
city,
the
county,
understanding,
better
the
the
infrastructure
that
exists
and
that
which
is
required
to
redevelop
or
to
encourage
the
new
investment
at
the
site
that
involved
building
an
economic
development
strategy
which
we've
done
the
financial
plan,
for
that
will
be
one
of
the
exhibits
that
goes
into
the
petition
for
new
community
Authority
We've
determined
the
constraints
of
viability.
That
is,
the
the
the
existing
infrastructure,
the
need
for
new
infrastructure.
C
What
can
be
done
with
the
historic
properties?
That's
our
primary
focus
is
how
to
save
those
buildings
and
put
them
into
good
purpose
that
serves
the
community
and
to
align
by
doing
a
market
study,
align
that
in
the
planning
analysis,
which
includes
the
timing
and
investment
of
infrastructure.
We
did
a
pretty
extensive
stakeholder
engagement,
including
multiple
meetings
with
The
Ridges
advisory
committee,
OU
staff,
open
conversations,
including
Town
Hall
meetings
in
quotes.
There
are
meetings
at
Ohio
University
with
staff
with
residents
and
advisors
and
Then,
followed
up
with
the
Athens
land.
C
Conservance
see
the
multiple
presentations
to
the
president's
office
and
to
the
Board
of
Trustees
individually
and
in
their
formal
meeting
in
February,
so
that
we've
gone
through
that
process
to
try
to
align
with
the
framework
plan,
try
to
figure
out
what
is
practical
that
can
be
done
within
the
constraints
of
the
the
city,
the
county,
the
university
and
the
conditions
of
the
buildings.
So
what
we
looked
at
is
maintaining
conserving
land
for
recreation
and
public
use.
C
Our
strong
recommendation
was
and
I
think
I
stated
it
the
previous
presentation
to
have
a
conservation
easement
for
all
the
land
that
is
not
to
be
developed.
So
the
vast
bulk
is
a
seven
approximately
700
Acre
Site,
we're
proposing
that
the
vast
majority
of
that
be
designated
in
a
conservation
easement
that
the
restrictions
be
placed
on
it
that
match
up
with
the
way
that
the
property
has
been
used
in
the
recent
past.
C
But
all
that
needs
to
be
put
into
a
conservation
easement
that
is
filed
and
of
record
and
that
there's
a
proper
stewardship
and
facility
model
for
that
that
we
leverage
the
vacant
space,
both
develop
modest
amount
of
developable
land,
but
also
repurposing
the
existing
buildings
to
create
flexibility,
to
complement
Ohio
University's,
significant
investment
in
the
site
to
date
and
to
and
to
match
that
up
for
the
long
term
in
court.
The
coordination
with
the
Athens
city
council
requires
three
pieces
of
legislation.
C
What
we're
requesting
the
longest
lead
time
item
is,
in
fact
the
petition
for
the
creation
of
the
new
community
Authority.
We
were
also
proposing
Community
reinvestment
act
area
that
would
be
whatever
the
designated
area
for
the
new
community.
Authority
is
have
a
CRA
District
assigned
for
that,
and
also
a
tax
increment
financing
district.
For
that,
so
those
three
pieces,
the
new
community
Authority,
the
community
reinvestment
area
and
the
tax
increment
financing
area
comprise
the
basis
for
seeking
funding
for
infrastructure.
C
The
longest
lead
time
item,
however,
is
the
filing
of
the
petition,
which
we
would
be
prepared
to
do
in
a
at
some
later
meeting
of
city,
council
and
and
then
filing
the
petition.
There's
a
hearing
period
of
up
to
45
days
before
there's
a
hearing,
so
there's
adequate
time
for
that.
But
that's
the
process.
C
The
next
steps
of
the
new
community
Authority
I,
want
to
be
able
to
answer
questions
on
this,
but
it's
a
stewardship
vehicle,
if
you
think
of
it
that
way
to
implement
The
Ridges
Redevelopment,
it's
governed
by
a
Board
of
Trustees,
the
it
has
the
ability
to
raise
revenues
through
property
assessments.
That
would
be
something
like
a
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes
if
it
has
a
tax
abatement
structure
and
it
requires
no
investment
from
the
city,
the
county
or
the
university.
C
The
draft
petition
the
first
draft
that
was
submitted
to
the
city,
council
and
law
director,
that's
being
reviewed
now.
It'll
have
to
be
refined,
obviously,
and
all
the
exhibits
assembled
for
it,
including
the
actual
property
that
is
to
be
transferred,
and
that
is
yet
to
be
fully
negotiated.
With
this
with
the
university.
C
The
formal
petition
then,
will
be
filed
next
week
or
at
a
later
date,
and
then
city
council
has
30
to
45
days
under
Ohio
law
for
the
filing
to
hold
a
hearing
to
approve
or
disa
approve
of
the
creation
of
a
new
community
Authority.
So
those
are
kind
of
the
action
items
that
are
required
coming
up.
So
there
are
several
pieces
of
legislation.
D
Was
almost
exactly
10
minutes
good
job
mainly
I
did
I
had
I
need
to
go
home
and
practice.
So,
yes,
I
think
you
nailed
it.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions,
one
just
for
clarification
on
on
so
I
know
all
the
where
all
these
puzzle
pieces
are
going
to
be
fitting
in
after
the
the
30
to
45
days
from
the
filing
of
the
petition
I'm
looking
down
as
I'm
reading
it
right
there.
We
have
that
we
have
that
duration
of
time
to
approve
this
once
that's
approved.
C
Directly
after
that,
so
once
the
new
community
Authority
is
formed,
that's
one
of
the
preconditions
for
the
transfer
of
property.
So
we
have
a
purchase
agreement
of
the
developer.
Ridges
Community
Development
LLC
has
a
purchase
agreement
with
Ohio
University,
with
many
preconditions
negotiating
the
restrictions
deciding
on
the
conservation
easement
forming
a
new
community
Authority
and
having
that
approved,
so
it
could
acquire
it.
So
all
those
pieces
have
to
be
put
in
place.
C
The
university
has
to
approve
the
transfer
of
the
property,
including
the
same
review
of
all
the
exhibits,
we're
talking
about
now
to
move
forward
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
move
forward.
We
need
to
have
the
other
component
pieces,
the
community,
reinvestment
Act
and
the
tax
income
and
financing
in
place.
Those
don't
have
that
lead
time,
but
they
would
be
presented.
So
you
have
a
chance
to
review
the
whole
rather
than
one
at
a.
D
Time,
okay,
so
I
think
if
I'm
I'm
understanding
correctly
one
this
has
been
created
and
improved
and
the
land
has
been
transferred.
Is
there
still
an
opportunity
for
say,
city,
council
or
people
in
general,
outside
of
just
the
appointed
Board
of
the
community
authority,
to
have
any
kind
of
impact
or
say
on
what
gets
built.
C
Well,
yes,
because
because
you're
you
have
zoning
control,
so
you
have
the
jurisdiction
control
over
the
whole
site.
So
we
would
be
producing
that,
including
restrictions
that
we
might
place
on
the
historic
buildings,
for
example
using
the
National
Park
Service
standards
as
a
guidepost
for
any
Redevelopment
of
the
site.
So
it
is
a
pretty
clear
standards
illuminated
there
could
be
architectural
standards
or
review
board
established
with
respect
to
new
development
opportunities,
in
addition
to
the
zoning
approval.
So
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
input
and
we
consider
it
a
very
organic
process.
C
We
don't
consider
it
a
monolithic
development
plan,
it's
got
many
components
to
it
and
it
will
have
many
participants,
including
put
potentially
local
home
builders
or
commercial
businesses
that
wish
to
move
forward
and
they
would
move
forward
in
the
typical
process
of
zoning
approval,
building
approval
and
review.
So
there's
a
lot
of
input
all
along
the
way
and
it's
a
seven
to
ten
year
plan.
It's
not
a
you
know:
it's
not
an
immediate
plan.
It
has
many
components.
C
D
One
now
I'll
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
I
had
I
was
curious
if
you
knew
if
there
was
already
sort
of
a
plan
or
where
I
know
that
we've
we've
sort
of
talked
about
and
seen
the
like,
the
big
shows
the
whole
parcel.
This
is
where
building
would
occur
and
I
think
I
mostly
asked,
because
I
went
back
to
the
the
2015
ridges
development
plan
or
whatever
it
was
called
through.
D
The
university
and
I
was
I
pulled
up
one
specific
sort
of
chart,
a
little
handy
print,
I
brought
for
myself
to
look
at,
and
it
has
highlighted
on
it.
The
buildable
areas
and
a
concern
that
I
had
was
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
buildable
areas,
at
least
that
I
was
seeing
in
sort
of
the
more
North
Northwestern
quadrant
were
essentially
just
where
there's
existing
Trails,
like
there's
that
long
trail
that
goes
up
on
sort
of
the
top
Ridge.
With
with
all
that
I
mean.
Is
the
plan
to
build
on
all.
C
Of
that,
no,
in
fact
the
opposite.
We
came
to
the
conclusion
with
looking
at
the
feasibility,
the
infrastructure,
the
quality
of
the
land
and
also
the
other
uses
of
the
land
that
that
was
not
an
appropriate
area
to
develop
so
where
the
land
lab
is
where
the
trails
go,
where
the
old
growth
Force,
those
are
really
the
areas.
We
think
we
should
concentrate
there's
over
600
acres
that
we
think
would
be
conservation
easement
that
would
be
permanent,
Recreation,
Conservation,
Area,
so
natural
beauty
and
active
enjoyment
with
the
trails
and
so
forth.
C
So
it's
we've
basically
compressed
the
development
to
a
little
finger
along
Dairy
Lane,
the
area
around
the
perimeter
of
the
historic
buildings
and
the
area
off
of
Carriage
Lane,
which
does
not
have
Road
access
now,
but
we've
talked
about
where
the
sewer
connection
is,
and
the
street
goes
there's
a
limited
about
amount
of
opportunity
there.
That
is
right.
Now
it's
landlocked,
it's
not
doesn't
have
any
Trails
on
it,
but
there's
a
lot
of
that
land.
It
could
be
conservation,
Eastern
land
as
well.
Thank.
D
C
B
Answers
yes,
council,
member
Swank
and
then
councilmember
crawl.
F
Since
the
meeting
last
Thursday
in
your
presentation,
I've
had
three
inquiries
about
the
Tiff
in
laypersons
terms,
because
not
only
we
have
a
big
crowd
today,
but
a
lot
of
people
watching
at
home
and
we'll
be
watching.
Since
we
record
these,
could
you
explain
how
that
works
and
what
the
timeline
would
be?
Yes,.
C
C
After
year,
15.,
the
county
gets
all
of
its
share
of
the
funding
after
year
30..
So
if
you
think
of
it
as
a
stair
step,
first,
we
have
to
get
the
infrastructure
to
get
the
investment.
Next,
the
school
system
gets
the
revenue
from
the
improved
tax
base
and
finally,
the
county
gets
its
share
of
tax
revenue
all
along
the
way.
C
Residents
and
workers
at
the
site
are
paying
city
income
tax.
So
there's
a
chance
for
the
the
city
to
gain
from
Economic
Development
for
the
school
system
to
build
a
tax
base
that
it
does
not
now
have
and
for
the
county
to
be
rewarded
for
the
one
over
the
long
term
for
the
increase
in
the
tax
base.
We
expect
over
200
million
dollars
of
investment
over
that
seven
to
ten
year
period.
That
will
ultimately
be
part
of
the
tax
base
that
this
the
school
system
and
the
county
benefit
from.
C
Wouldn't
need
to
sign
off,
that's
correct
and
we
have
met
with
the
school
superintendent
and
and
trustees
certain
trustees
to
discuss
that,
so
they
haven't
commented
on
it
yet,
but
they
heard
the
presentation
last
week
of
what
we're
looking
at.
We
see
it
as
very
positive
for
the
school
system,
but
yes,
they
have
to
make
a
decision
as
well.
Are
you
asking
for
100?
Yes,
we
are
okay,
we
know
it's
a
big
lift.
C
That
is,
the
infrastructure
is
a
big
list
and
we're
asking
we're
asking
for
that,
because
we
have
to
stay
a
pace
ahead
with
infrastructure
to
to
bring
forward
development.
G
Thanks
again
for
being
here
and
thanks
for
doing
the
town
hall,
both
with
the
community
and
the
university
and
one
more
I
believe
in
March,.
H
G
So
we
can
still
participate
if
we
haven't
yet
I'm
most
interested
in
what
member
ziff
brought
up
and
you
I
think
adequately
responded
to,
which
is
really
the
changes
from
the
2015
framework
plan
to
what
we
have
today
and
as
I
see
it.
The
biggest
change-
and
my
constituents
are
most
pleased
about-
is
that
ridge's
strategy
area
B,
which
in
the
framework
plan,
showed
some
development-
maybe
an
Eco
Village,
maybe
some
New
Roads
Etc
but
I
believe
in
the
in
the
current
plan.
There
is,
as
you
said,
no
development
there.
That's.
C
G
However,
the
language
in
the
draft
that
we
were
reviewing
for
tonight
uses
language
like
Park
and
recreational
Improvement
costs
secondary
site,
with
an
emphasis
on
conservation
and
Recreation
and
I'm
wondering
if
one
member
of
my
neighborhood
was
concerned,
that
that
could
mean
a
golf
course.
C
No,
we
don't
have
a
proposal
for
a
golf
course
and
I
think
a
golf
course
takes
like
two
or
three
hundred
acres.
We
think
there's
going
to
be
600
acres,
yes,
600
acres
or
so
of
conservation
easement.
So
what
we
think
is
we're
going
to
have
a
very
limited
amount
of
land
devoted
I
mean
most
of
the
developable
acreage
is
right
at
the
historic
campus.
What
we
see
when
you
drive
around
The
Ridges
campus,
so
it's
a
very
limited
amount.
C
The
the
reason
we're
doing
other
development
at
the
site
is
to
generate
tax
revenue
or
assessment
Revenue
that
we
can
use
to
pay
for
infrastructure.
That
needs
to
be
done
to
lift
the
project
off,
so
that's
very
limited
and
what
we
went
through
analysis
if
it
did
not
if
it
did
not
create
an
assessment
for
the
historic
area,
if
it
if
it
encroached
upon
Conservation
Area,
and
it
was
just
development
for
its
own
sake-
we
weren't
doing
it.
So
it
was
basically
it
had
to
meet
those
standards.
G
C
Then
that
would
all
be
a
yeah,
so
we
anticipate
either
the
conservation
easement
would
be
filed
before
the
transfer
or
it
would
be
the
requirement
at
the
time
of
transfer,
so
it
would
be
fully
negotiated
and
the
city
I
think
would
be
involved
in
that
because
there
are
there's
a
lot
of
input.
There
are
a
lot
of
stakeholders
in
that
I
know
from
the
town
hall
meetings.
C
Nami
is
among
them,
because
they've
done
a
lot
of
work
at
the
site,
the
Conservancy
itself,
which
probably
would
be
receiving
the
benefit
of
the
easement
or
be
a
caretaker
or
Trustee
of
it
maybe
be
named
in
it.
So
we're
trying
to
figure
all
that
out.
We're
also
thinking
about
the
potential
of
of
clean
Ohio
funds,
perhaps
for
maintenance
of
the
old
growth
forest
and
for
the
trails.
So
there
are
other
aspects
of
this
that
really
require
collaborative
I.
Think
you
can
hear
from
this
that
there's
nothing
we
proceed
with.
C
G
G
Three
citizen
members,
I
believe
from
a
list
or
recommended
by
the
University
and
the
language
is
something
like
agents
of
the
University
or
or
citizen
agents.
I'm,
not
sure
how
this
works,
but
those
don't
citizens
doesn't
mean
a
resident
of
Athens
right.
That
could
be
somebody
who
is
on
a
branch
campus
or
or
works
with
University
in
Columbus
and
is
on.
C
This
yeah,
actually
that
the
way
the
Ohio
Revised
Code
reads
its
citizens
would
be
people
that
are
using
the
site,
so
it's
living
or
working
at
it
right
now.
Everybody
working
at
it
is
Ohio
University
employees
and
agents.
So
but
the
actual
High
revised
code
is
citizens
are
those
using
the
new
community
Authority
side.
Okay,.
G
C
Not
when
the
not
when
the
land
gets
transferred,
but
right
now,
that's
you
know
they.
The
state
recorded
it
in
various
ways,
so
they
trans.
Where
did
they
put
it
under
the
control
of
either
the
Board
of
Trustees,
the
president
of
the
University
Ohio
University,
or
they
kept
it
at
the
state
of
Ohio?
But
we
were,
we
would
be
asking
the
state
to
to
approve
the
conveyance
of
the
whole,
so
we
have
to
assemble
all
that.
C
F
Everything
yeah.
This
is
more
a
point
point
of
order,
question
of
the
of
the
chair.
This
is
a
very
comprehensive
document.
34
pages
in
all-
and
we
do
have
a
timeline
here
today
at
what
point
in
time
will
Council
discuss
the
nitty-gritty
of
this
and
get
into
the
weed,
such
as
the
language
and
this
that
and
the
other
of
this
draft
proposal
would
that
be
in
a
committee
meeting
at
a
later
date?
Will
that
be
at
the
hearing?
Will
that
be
any
first
reading.
B
I
would
imagine
it's
kind
of
an
interim
iterative
process
and
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
are
the
exhibits
as
they
come
in
we're
going
to
have
the
public
hearing.
I
would
think
that
prior
we
did,
we
would
come
back
before
a
committee
meeting
for
further
discussion
before
we
have
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance
and
I.
Imagine
that
that
is.
Are
we
thinking
of
a
time
frame
of
like
March
or
April?
Yes,
so
we
do
have
time
for
this
to
come
back.
B
C
F
That
end,
would
it
be
possible,
before
we
look
at
this
again
to
have
that
which
is
in
this
document
that
is
set
in
stone,
Ohio,
Revised,
Code
or
whatever,
to
be
colored
or
something
so
that
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
F
C
Yes,
we
can
do
that,
and
actually
the
iterative
process
probably
describes
it
well
because
before
coming
back,
there's
going
to
be
further
review
of
this
we're
going
to
have
some
refinements
and
we'll
be
back
with
ideas,
including
notations,
on
the
exhibit.
So
there's
plenty
of
time
to
get
this
right.
Okay,
all.
B
Right,
thank
you.
We
four
minutes
and
counting
city
Administration
comments,
questions
I,.
I
Do
have
a
comment
and
Mr
Richard.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
for
long
hard
work
that
you
put
into
establishing
this.
The
only
thing
I
really
want
to
mention
to
council
and
to
those
who
are
here
tonight
is
you
know
with
a
process
like
this.
It
is
my
opinion
that
this
is
the
best
shot
that
we
have
for
the
ridges
and
The
Ridges,
the
entire
ridges
campus
and
I'm
hopeful
that
this
and
believe
that
it
will
come
to
fruition
if
we
go
through
this
process
with
the
new
communities.
Authority.
I
But
again,
you
know
those.
Unfortunately,
those
buildings
are
in
dire
need
of
of
being
repaired
and
brought
back
to
life
again.
So
if
we
don't
aren't
able
to
go
through
this
process,
I
don't
know
what
the
ultimate
fate
would
be
of
the
riches
itself
and
I'm
just
being
honest
with
Council
and
those
who
are
here
tonight.
So
I
think
this
is
the
best
shot
that
we
have
for
that
service.
B
B
B
We'll
move
on
to
the
next
item-
and
this
is
the
solid
waste
contract
and
citizens
and
council
members
likely
remember
that
we
had
discussion
of
this
at
the
at
a
previous
committee
meeting
and
we
do
have
an
update
from
our
law.
Director
and
I
requested
for
an
opinion
on
the
status
of
the
bids
and
I
will
not
read
the
the
entire
opinion
council.
B
Members
have
been
provided
with
a
copy,
as
has
the
mayor
and
the
service
safety
director,
but
what
the
law
director
has
stated
is
that
there
is
a
substantial
legal
risk
with
awarding
a
contract
to
bitters,
ahrc
or
Rumpke,
based
on
the
existing
bid
documents,
and
she
goes
on
to
cite
that,
specifically
the
parts
that
were
missing
from
the
ahrc
bid
and
then
also
the
parts
that
were
missing
from
the
Rumpke
bid
and
that
any
bids
to
further
to
quote
her
directly
any
bids
not
prepared
and
submitted
and
in
court
according
to
the
provisions
here
and
outlined
and
may
reject
any
or
all
bids
they
in
implementing
this
option.
B
B
There
are
three
changes
that
she
thinks
would
be
important
to
include,
and
that
would
be
first,
the
lowest
and
best
standard
of
award.
That's
listed
in
Revised,
Code,
733
35.05
that
must
be
utilized
and
that
second,
the
bidder
should
be
informed
in
the
revised
instructions
that
they'll
be
obligated
to
sign.
The
contract
is
contained
in
the
bid
package
without
alteration
or
negotiation,
and
finally,
it's
important
that
any
award
on
a
rebid
align
with
a
clearly
announced
breakout
of
the
Scopes
of
work
that
may
be
awarded
separately
so
to
comply
with
this
opinion.
B
What
city
council
would
need
to
do
would
be
first
pass
an
ordinance
to
reject
all
the
bids
that
were
received
and
then
authorize.
The
service
safety
director
to
rebid
Second
Step
would
be
for
Council
to
pass
an
ordinance
to
authorize
a
service
safety
director
to
advertise
and
accept
bids
in
an
amount
not
to
exceed
the
recommendation
of
a
service
safety
director
and
then.
B
So
I
would
like
to
allow
some
time,
given
the
the
importance
of
this
for
our
city,
very
basic
city
services
and
the
fact
that
the
contract
does
expire
on
June
30th,
we're
doing
all
we
can
to
work
cooperatively
with
the
bidding
companies
and
to
I
suppose
in
a
sense
it's
a
regrouping,
so
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
for
comments
from
council
members
and
then
Administration
and
see.
Finally,
if
there
are
any
comments
from
the
audience
council
members.
F
K
J
You
know
I
mean
it
varies
from
year
to
year,
but
you
know
100,
perhaps
200
300
contracts
and
it's
there's
there's
a
lot
of
things
and
you
know
I
mean
from
a
600
page
contract
associated
with
a
multi-million
dollar
construction
project
to
you
know
a
a
small
agreement
for
some
sort
of
Professional
Service
across
the
spectrum
of
what
is
considered
a
contract.
But
as
far
as
the
person
who
who
signs
things
on
behalf
of
the
city
binding
the
city,
you
know
a
couple
hundred
probably.
F
And
of
those
couple
hundred,
how
many
of
those
would
you
say
come
to
you
as
what
I
would
call
a
perfect
bid
and
by
Perfect
bid
I'll
be
very
specific,
a
bid
that
needs
no
clarification,
no
negotiation,
no
further
communication
between
you
and
the
bidders.
J
So
to
to
clarify
my
previous
answer,
documents
or
or
contracts
valued
at
150
000,
don't
require
bidding
so
in
instances
of
a
contract
that
would
come
before
me.
That
does
require
bidding
in
most
cases.
J
F
So
there
are
two
other
questions
that
I
could
ask
you,
but
I
won't
because
you've
been
asked
this
one
question
before
what
is
your
opinion
on
the
matter?
The
reason
I
won't
ask
that
question.
You've
made
it
very
clear,
and
we
all
know
this
is
the
one
contract,
the
one
and
only
contract,
that
city
council
controls.
F
F
I
would
like
Council
to
consider
taking
action.
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
be
tonight
or
at
our
next
regular
schedule,
business
meeting
put
the
granting
and
awarding
of
this
contract
where
I
feel
it
belongs,
and
that
is
in
the
hands
of
the
city.
Administration
contracts
aren't
administrative
function.
F
B
F
So
this
is
kind
of
like
the
urban
myth
that
the
sign
in
front
of
the
OU
in
and
the
recreation
center
could
only
change
once
a
day
and
we
operated
under
that
forever
and
we
found
out
that
was
not
the
case.
So
if
that
is
the
case,
that
there
is
nothing
written
in
stone,
no
pun
intended.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
move
it
to
where
I'm
suggesting
it?
It
belongs?
Well,.
B
And
we
do
have
a
recommendation
from
the
law
director
that
says
I
believe
the
third
item
on
page
two,
it
starts
it's
the
sixth
line
down
and
the
third
paragraph,
fifth,
fifth
or
sixth.
Finally,
city
council
should
pass
an
ordinance
to
authorize
this.
So
then
this
clarifies
it
authorized,
pass
an
ordinance
to
authorize
a
service
safety
director
to
enter
into
a
written
contract
with
the
lowest
and
best
bidder.
B
F
B
J
To
the
point
about,
you
know,
Council
explicitly
withholding
the
authority
on
this,
so
no
ordinance
has
been
passed
a
date
authorizing
the
service
safety
director
to
advertise
and
accept
bids
and
enter
into
a
contract
for
Solid,
Waste,
Services
and
the
contract
is,
is
up
on
30
June.
So
we
took
steps
anticipating
that.
That's
what
council
wanted
to
happen,
which
was
to
retain
Authority
on
this
based
upon
the
last
two
contracts
that
were
awarded.
J
If
you
review
the
ordinances
from
the
last
two
times
the
contracts
were
awarded,
there
was
never
a
time
where
Council
passed
legislation.
That
said
the
council
service
station
is
authorized
to
advertise
and
accept
bids.
There
was
just
an
ordinance
pass
after
those
bids
were
brought.
In
that
said,
service
safe
director
is
authorized
to
enter
into
a
contract
with
that,
and
so
I
went
back
and
looked
at
those
as
well.
I'm,
certainly
willing
to
take
it
on
if
Council
deems
that's
the
way
to
proceed
in
this
particular
instance.
I
think
that
I
I
didn't
believe.
J
G
I'll,
just
repeat
what
I
said
two
weeks
ago,
which
is
that
whether
it
is
the
service
safety
director
in
the
city
Administration
or
it
is
this,
this
body
that
reviews
bids
for
this
contract
are
our
hope
for
the
city
of
Athens
is
that
we
have
a
service
provider
that
meets
our
sustainability
goals
and
and
that
partners
with
local
organizations
and
helping
the
city
to
move
forward,
not
just
manage
what
we
have
today,
but
to
move
forward
to
help
us
do
a
better
job
when
it
comes
to
waste
management
in
the
city
of
Athens.
L
Drive
and
I
won't
give
you
my
emotional
pitch
from
last
time,
but
so
this
is
quite
different.
So
I
think
that
the
concerns
of
the
public
are
certainly
a
lot.
L
There
are
many
concerns
with
the
public
about
how
we
go
forward
with
the
trash
providers
in
this
city
and
I
spoke
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
with
Bruce
Underwood
from
h,
a
HRC,
because
this
figure
of
1.7
million
Over
a
four-year
period
continually,
was
thrown
out
there
in
this
meeting
in
meetings
within
my
community
on
the
far
East
Side,
with
no
further
explanation
and
no
breakdown
and
I
think
David
descutner
addressed
this
two
weeks
ago
has
did
a
couple
of
other
people.
How
does
it
really
translate?
That's
what
I
wanted
to
know.
L
L
He
was
unable
to
give
me
a
complete
breakdown
and,
in
speaking
to
Bruce,
under
wood,
I
began
to
understand
and
I've
read
today,
12
pages
of
documentation,
and
it
is
a
very
complex
situation
about
how
the
trash
fees
are
generated
and
how
they
are
just
and
distributed
either
to
individuals
like
myself,
a
single
person
on
a
fixed
income
or
two
businesses,
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and
I
think
this
is
an
opportune
time.
You
know
we've
heard
about
this
for
years
between
the
conflict
between
town
and
gown.
L
This
is
an
opportune
time
to
involve
the
university
to
involve
the
landlords
to
involve
the
parents
of
these
students.
I
mean
I
know
this
is
the
far
stretch,
but
you
know
they
bring
all
this
stuff,
which
becomes
our
trash
on
I
mean
move
out
day
is
one
of
the
big
parts
of
this
contract.
That
is
the
most
expensive
time
of
the
year
and
I
have
worked
that
as
a
volunteer.
Many
many
times
and
I
have
watched.
L
Parents
come
in,
remove
their
children
and
that's
the
end
of
it,
and
we
are
left
with
everything
which
they
brought
here.
Originally
it's
thrown
into
the
street
as
trash
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
The
landlords
do
not
ever
they
have
a
a
very
tight
framework
on
their
contracts.
They
can
wiggle
that
they
could
give
these
students
a
couple
of
days.
You
cannot
move
out
on
Saturday
or
Friday
on
the
days
of
graduation
and
be
expected.
You
know,
I
mean
there's
things
that
can
be
addressed
here
and
I
would
really
encourage.
L
All
of
you,
no
matter
into
whose
hands
this
ends
up
to
consider
really
reaching
out
involves
some
of
us
in
the
community.
If
you
cannot
negotiate
this
yourselves
because
it's
time
to
make
that
happen,
you
know
if
I'm
going
to
go
from
14
a
month
to
fifty
dollars
a
month.
That's
a
big
jump,
but
I
can
tell
you
this
I've
spoken
to
three
of
my
friends
who
have
Rumpke
and
they
they've
had
nothing
but
increases
over
the
years
and
they
don't
get
good
service
and
they
don't
even
have
Recycling
and
a
story
thanks
meletta.
B
E
Yeah
I'm
Heather,
Johnson
I
live
at
140
and
a
half
West
Union,
Street
and
I
don't
represent
any
group,
but
I'm
a
senior
at
OU
and
I've
been
working
with
campus
recycling
for
the
past
three
and
a
half
years,
and
with
my
job
I've
gotten
to
work
towards
zero
waste
goals
with
multiple
different
people
and
organizations
throughout
the
greater
Athens
area,
and
in
that
time
one
of
the
things
that
has
become
clear
to
me
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
love
Athens.
E
So
much
is
how
deep
sustainability
runs
in
this
community
from
the
Athena
Cinema
sustainability
series
to
different
restaurants
and
cafes
compost.
Systems
to
Passion
works
is
use
of
recycled
materials.
It
is
clear
the
sustainability
matters
here
and
HRC
is
right
there,
along
with
us
in
their
bid,
HRC
mentions
how
they
will
help
work
towards
sustainability
and
waste
education
goals
and
I've
seen
this
firsthand
through
their
willingness
to
assist
us
with
facility
tours
and
extra
composting
needs.
E
When
we
sort
through
compost,
the
OU's
facility
cannot
process
most
recently
Mark,
along
with
other
HRC
employees,
has
been
helping
us
with
a
plastic
pollution
awareness
installation
on
call
College
Green
for
campus
race
to
zero
waste.
Throughout
the
course
of
this
month,
they've
been
helping
us
move
a
total
of
four
thousand
pounds
of
plastic
waste
collected
from
campus
back
to
our
recycling
center,
so
we
can
use
it
for
our
installation.
E
It
is
extra
work
for
them
and
mildly
counter-intuitive
to
be
sending
the
waste
that
they
just
picked
up
back
to
where
it
came
from,
but
this
project
would
not
have
been
possible
if
the
staff
at
HRC
did
not
care
about
this
community
and
were
not
so
willing
to
help
out
at
the
drop
of
a
hat.
Even
if
you
decide
that
sustainability
doesn't
hold
much
weight
in
this
decision.
There's
the
issue
of
OU
move
out.
E
Move
out
is
not
something
that
you
can
not
plan
for
and
just
assume
typical
work
hours
and
pickup
schedules
our
typical
hours
at
the
recycling
center
eight
to
four
and
weekdays,
but
during
the
two
to
three
weeks
during
and
around
move
out,
we
work
with
as
many
employees
as
possible
9
A.M
to
9
pm
every
single
day,
and
we
still
find
ourselves
falling
behind
most
days
being
able
to
service
the
residential
areas
during
move
out
takes
a
lot
of
planning
flexibility
and
knowledge
of
how
it
all
works.
Ahrc
has
all
of
these.
E
If
we
give
them
a
call
and
let
them
know
that
dumpsters
are
overflowing
and
need
to
be
emptied,
they
will
do
it
that
same
day,
these
types
of
connections
and
flexibility
are
only
possible
when
the
facility
you're
working
with
is
close
by
intertwined
with
the
community
and
has
the
immediate
capacity
to
process
all
these
materials.
I
know
it
is
city,
council,
you're
obligated
to
choose
either
the
lowest
or
the
best
bid
and
I
know
that
Rumpke
has
a
lower
bid.
F
Since
I
was
named,
I
I
feel
obligated
to
share
this
with
anybody
who
would
like
it.
A
1.7
million
is
in
this
document
right
here.
I'm
sorry
I
only
brought
one
copy
tonight.
Whoever
wants
it
could
happen.
I
feel
Melinda
probably
should
get
it,
but
if
you
would
like
a
copy
that
clearly
shows
the
1.7
million
dollars.
Difference
I'll
be
more
than
happy
by
email
to
send
you
a
copy,
so
here's
a
copy
it
shows
the
1.7
is
readily
available.
It's
not
a
secret.
B
Thank
you
all
right
if
no
further
comments.
What
we'll
do
now
is
move
on
to
the
topic
of
local
government
funds,
and
we
were
contacted
on
the
21st
of
February
by
the
Ohio
Municipal
League
about
the
Ohio
representatives
and
current
their
current
consideration
of
legislation.
This
is
house
bill,
number
30
three.
This
is
the
2024-25
state
operating
budget.
It's
soon
to
go
to
the
Senate
and
what's
happened
over
the
past
few
years.
B
So
we
went
from
3.68
to
1.66
and
what
that
specifically
means
for
the
city
of
Athens
is
that
at
one
point
we
have
been
as
high
as
eight
receiving
eight
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
dollars
a
year
of
these
local
government
funds
that
we
can
use
for
our
general
operating
costs
and
over
the
years
we
have
we've
shifted
and
gone
to
as
low
as
I
believe
around
300
000
and
we're
now
back
up
to
a
half
million
dollars.
What
we're
doing
with
a
piece
of
legislation
is
we're
suggesting
we're
proposing
a
resolution.
B
Council
members
have
a
draft
of
this
and
we
would.
We
are
urging
the
Ohio
General
Assembly
to
restore
the
local
government
funds
to
the
pre-recession
levels,
any
comments
or
questions
from
council
members
and
mayor
Patterson
I
know
you
speak
on
behalf
of
the
mayor's
Association.
You've
got
contact
with
a
lot
of
villages
and
municipalities
across
the
state,
so
you
see
firsthand
not
only
the
effect
it's
had
on
our
community,
but
other
cities
and
villages.
I
I
do
thank
you,
president
nicely
I
really
appreciate
Council
taking
this
up.
This
is
something
that
the
mayor's
partnership
for
progress.
It's
number.
It's
number
two
of
our
10
agenda
items
almost
every
year
that
we've
been
an
organization
having
to
deal
with
the
reduction
in
the
local
government
fund
number
one
in
his
home
rule,
both
of
which
we
value
highly
so
again,
I
appreciate
Council,
taking
this
up
the
Ohio
mayor's
Alliance.
This
is
first
and
foremost,
for
them,
certainly
is
what
the
mayor's
partnership
for
progress
and
the
Ohio
Municipal
League.
B
Great,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
comments,
okay
and
if
no
other
comments,
we
do
have
a
draft
of
that
council
members
urged
to
take
a
look
at
the
resolution
if
they
have
any
other
comments
or
suggestions,
they
want
to
add
to
that
then
feel
free
to
do
so.
We'll
have
we'll
bring
that
up
for
a
re
first
reading
next
week,
all
right
we
will
move
to
city
and
Safety
Services
committee
and
I
would
suggest.
B
Given
we
have
one
well,
we
have
two
items
of
business,
but
I
know
that
the
one
the
reduction
of
the
single-use
plastic
bags
is
certainly
something
that's
of
concern
to
everyone.
So
we
may
just
one
more
week
where
we
remain
at
the
Deus
rather
than
breaking
apart,
but
normally
we
have
the
city
Safety
Services
committee
up
here
and
then
the
other
members
of
council
down
there.
This
particular
committee
is
chaired
by
council
member
McCary
and
joined
by
council
members,
Grace,
Swank
and
Crowell
for
this
particular
thing.
So
these
items
so
council,
member
McCary.
M
Thank
you,
president
nicely.
We
do
have
three
items
on
our
agenda
this
evening
for
our
city
and
Safety
Services
committee,
two
of
which
are
presentations
ones.
A
contract
and
I
would
like
to
invite
council
member
swink
to
introduce
the
presenters
for
the
first
item
on
single-use
plastic
bag
reduction.
F
A
little
history,
single-use
plastic
bags
is
nothing
new
to
the
our
discussion
of
is
nothing
new
to
the
city
of
Athens
back
around
2014
1516,
not
sure
the
exact
year
legislation
began
to
work
its
way
through
Council,
to
enact
a
single-use
plastic
bag
ban
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
never
made
it
to
council
to
actually
take
action
on
and
was
withdrawn,
but
things
have
changed
in
2018,
the
Kroger
company,
which
is
the
largest
dedicated
grocery
chain
in
the
United
States,
announced
that
by
2025,
all
of
its
stores
would
be
single-use
plastic
bag.
F
Free
seven
years
sounds
like
a
long
time,
but
they
have
been
working
on
it
in
the
west
coast.
Fred
Meyer
and
some
of
those
stores
that
are
under
the
Kroger
umbrella
have
already
already
started
this,
and
they
have
had
great
success
with
it
here.
East
of
the
Mississippi
Kroger
is
currently
piloted
piloting
this
in
Richmond
Virginia
at
their
Short
Pump
Store.
It's
a
rather
large
grocery
store
and
again
in
talking
to
the
management
there.
F
It
seems
to
be
going
very,
very
well
in
2019
group
of
people
in
this
town
got
together
and
decided.
You
know
what
we're
going
to
do
something
about
it
and
tonight
they're
going
to
make
a
presentation
to
us.
I
first
met
with
this
group.
Pre-Covered
Cove
had
set
us
apart,
although
they
kept
working
and
kept
working
very
hard
and
diligently,
and
then
we
got
back
together
before
the
first
of
the
year
tonight.
F
Nancy
Pierce
and
Lee
Gregg
part
of
Athens
rethink
Plastics
along
with
Melinda
Miller
Melanie,
Smith,
Cindy,
Burt
and
janley
stock
are
going
to
present
on
a
draft
version
of
a
single-use
plastic
band
in
Athens.
This
group
came
together
in
2019
and
of
note
they
have
partnered
with
the
Sierra
Club
and
obtained
grant
money
to
promote
this
cause.
They
conduct
their
educational
measures
by
doing
presentations,
puppet
shows
in
the
school
system,
upcycling
feed
bags
and
the
shopping
bags
and
tabling
at
local
events
and
film
showings
I'd
like
to
introduce
Nancy
Pierce.
N
So
this
ordinance
that
we're
backing
basically
bars
stores
and
restaurants
from
providing
single-use
plastic
carryout
bags
to
customers
at
checkout.
This
does
not
include
produce
meat
or
product
bags.
The
ordinance
also
includes
a
city
fund
to
give
assistance
to
businesses
to
transition
and
Implement
Alternatives.
So
why
ban
single-use
plastic
bags
because
plastic
is
hugely
polluting?
Our
environment
littering
our
roadsides
filling
our
oceans?
Plastic
lasts
for
hundreds
of
years.
N
N
Because
recycling
for
Plastics
is
not
a
solution?
Less
than
10
percent
of
all
plastic
worldwide
is
recycled
despite
industry
claims.
Most
plastic
is
not
designed
to
be
recycled
because
of
the
chemicals
in
it.
We
used
to
think
we
could
put
it
in
the
recycling
bin
and
Bin
and
send
it
to
China,
then
trying
to
stop
that
now.
It's
still
set
to
underdeveloped
countries
where
there
are
mountains,
really
mountains
of
plastic
trash
and
trash
filling
beaches
and
streams
you
have
to
Wade.
Through
it
very
little
plastic
is
recycled,
more
than
90
percent
gets
dumped
or
incinerated.
N
Another
reason
to
ban
single-use
plastic
carryout
bags
is
because
we
can
do
without
them.
It'll
be
inconvenient
at
first
for
consumers,
businesses
are
going
to
have
to
transition,
but,
for
example,
in
Ireland,
within
weeks
of
a
ban,
their
use
dropped
94
percent
the
head
of
the
largest
supermarket
chain
there
who
had
fought
the
ban
became
a
Believer.
He
said
we're
saving
the
environment
and
since
we're
not
paying
for
bags,
it
saves
money
for
us
and
reduces
the
price
of
goods
for
consumers.
N
N
N
N
N
H
This
is
lead,
make
great
yes,
Lee,
Greg
I'm,
presenting
or
for
Athens
rethink,
plastic
and
Nancy
did
a
wonderful
job
of
summarizing
our
concerns,
and
she
asked
me
to
speak
to
the
health
impact
of
it.
We
did
another.
Member
and
I
of
the
group
did
a
presentation
to
through
Ohio
Health,
at
their
lunch
seminar
series
about
the
hazards
of
plastic
that
they
present
to
our
our
public
health.
H
So
why
are
Plastics
a
health
medical
issue
and
in
fact
this
is
now
being
addressed
by
medical
Educators
to
doctors,
because
they
are
recognizing
that
it
is
a
a
big
Health
concern,
and
why
is
it
because
50
of
plastics
by
weight
are
added
chemicals?
Much
of
it
are
unknown.
They're,
unregulated,
except
some
that
are
known,
are
known
to
be
cause
cancer
and
disruptions
of
the
hormonal
system.
H
For
example,
according
to
an
expert
scientist
who
testified
at
a
senate
State
Hearing
on
plastic
last
year,
the
sperm
count
in
humans
is
now
down
10
percent
and
is
expected
to
drop
to
50
percent
in
coming
decades.
If
this
issue
is
not
addressed
now
because
about
half
of
the
plastic
is
single
use
and
the
single-use
plastic
shopping
bags
that
we're
talking
about
here
is
the
world's
most
used
consumer
product.
H
Banning
plastic
bags
is
not
only
the
easiest
way
to
reduce
single-use
plastic,
but
also
it's
very
impactful
in
reducing
plastic
in
our
environment.
Now
there
are
many
people
in
Athens
and
you
may
be
one
of
them.
Who've
been
shopping
with
reusable
bags
for
years,
and
we
have
found
that
vendors
are
usually
very
appreciative
and
supportive
of
our
having
our
own
bags
and
they
often
say
that
they
are
not
happy
about
using
plastic
bags
themselves.
H
One
reusable
bag
is
said
to
replace
700
single-use
plastic
shopping
bags.
A
shift
to
taking
your
reusable
bag
to
the
store
does
mean
developing
the
habit
of
taking
the
bags
with
you.
Just
like
remembering
your
cell
phone,
but
people
all
over
have
done
it.
People
in
10
states
in
the
United
States
do
it,
and
in
188
countries
they
have
learned
to
BYOB
bring
your
own
bag.
O
My
name
is
janalay
stock
I
live
in
Athens
County,
but
I
do
all
my
shopping
right
here
in
town,
I
am
a
former
hospice
nurse
then
turned
school
nurse
and
I
live
by
the
motto.
An
ounce
of
prevention
is
worth
a
pound
of
cure.
My
focus
since
retiring
has
been
to
learn
about
the
effects
of
plastics
on
human
health
and
the
environment,
and
you
really
just
can't
tease
apart
the
two.
O
You
have
just
heard
a
snippet
of
why
we
believe
plastic
pollution
is
a
sleeping
giant,
think
of
East
Palestine
and
you
get
a
heck
of
a
vision
of
what
happens
when
we
ignore
the
toxic
nature
of
these
chemicals
used
to
make
plastic.
No
one
wants
that
now
contaminated
soil
transferred
to
their
community.
O
As
someone
involved
in
litter,
pickup
at
Strouds,
Run,
State,
Park,
Adopt,
A
Highway
and
the
Hocking
River
sweep,
which
I
got
to
do
with
Sam
last
year,
I
challenge
anyone
or
invite
anyone
to
be
involved
in
litter,
pickup
and
tell
me
we
do
not
have
a
problem
with
plastic
waste
right
here
in
our
waterways
too
many
pieces
are
so
small
and
so
numerous
that
we
just
have
to
pass
it
by.
We
can't
we
can't
pick
it
up.
O
O
L
Well,
I
wasn't
scheduled
to
float
s
show
this
to
all
of
you,
so
thank
you
for,
for
all
of
you,
considering
this
and
I
do
want
to
say,
I'm
Nancy
and
I
head
up
the
subcommittee
of
the
businesses
in
town,
and
so
we've
been
meeting
with
these
businesses
for
almost
four
years
now
and
councilman
Swank
met
with
us
at
the
Uptown
businesses,
and
he
brought
up
a
very
good
point
recently
and
that
was
remember
and
I.
L
So
we
are
going
to
begin
to
install
these
signs,
and
these
have
been
paid
for
by
the
Ohio
Sierra
Club
through
a
grant,
and
we
have
we
have
Don's
husband
has
agreed
to
install
them,
so
the
signs
will
be
free
of
charge
and
the
installation
will
be
free
of
charge
for
as
many
as
we
have
right
now,
we've
already
gotten
one
two
businesses
actually
to
agree
to
put
these
outside
their
establishments,
and
they.
L
This
is
before
the
discussion
of
anything
to
to
do
away
with
plastic
bags,
so
I
just
wanted
to
show
that
to
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
from
a
sustainability
standpoint,
you
know
this
is
a
topic
that
really
marries
very
well
with
the
solid
waste
discussions
we've
all
been
having,
because
if
you
can
do
away
with
single-use
plastic
bags
throughout
most
of
the
businesses
in
this
community
you're
going
to
reduce
the
level
of
waste
that
goes
out
to
Poston
or
to
the
landfill
wherever
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
F
M
M
M
M
G
Crowd,
thank
you,
member
McCary,
just
a
quick,
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this.
This
is
great.
I.
Have
one
clarification,
single-use
plastic
carryout
bags
do
not
include
produce
meat
or
product
bags.
Can
you
help
me
out
with
product
bag.
N
It's
kind
of
a
strange
way
to
say
it.
You
know
that
comes
from
the
Bexley
ordinance
and
those
for
the
words
they
use
that
seem
to
work
for
them.
I
think
that
means
anything
that
is
already
packaged
or
it
could
mean
something
like
if
you
have
bins
and
you
and
you
get
something
inside
the
store,
any
something
that
is
not
actually
at
checkout.
N
M
F
F
Second,
Trader
Joe's,
seasonal
bag,
regular
Old,
Trader,
Joe's,
already
being
in
use
I,
would
have
brought
all
these
bags
to
show
you,
but
oh
Aldi
doesn't
have
bags.
You
bring
your
own,
so
I
thought
and
I
haven't
run
this
by
the
mayor,
yet,
but
I
think
he
might
like
the
idea.
Wouldn't
it
be
kind
of
neat
to
have
an
official
Athens
bag
that
we
could
buy
in
bulk.
F
P
Yeah
I'm,
just
of
thinking
here
I,
was
on
city
council
back
when
Jennifer
Cochran
introduced
the
first
draft
of
an
ordinance
to
get
rid
of
single-use
plastic
bags
and
part
of
that
was
charging
a
fee
for
the
bag.
If
someone
needed
it
at
checkout
and
of
course,
the
state
of
Ohio
passed
a
law
that
took
away
our
home
rule
on
that
issue.
They
basically
said
you
can't
do
that
so
I'm
wondering
how
do
we
get
around
it
again?
P
If
we
pass
an
ordinance,
I
I'm,
absolutely
certain
that
the
legislature
will
pass
a
law
that
will
say
no.
You
can't
do
that.
Why?
Because
the
state
of
Ohio
is
in
the
pocket
of
Big,
Oil,
big
gas
and
they're,
not
going
to
do
anything
to
upset
that
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
do
we
get
around
that
looks
like.
P
N
The
second
attempt
that
that
that
Mr
Swank
spoke
of
by
our
group
and
and
actually
Chris
fall
and
Lisa
Eliason
to
come
up
with
a
with
a
plastic
bag
ban
or
fee
I
can't
remember
exactly
how
they
they
they
worded
it
at
that
point,
but
that
at
that
point
the
state
of
Ohio
prohibited
both
a
ban
and
a
fee,
and
then
they
extended
it
through
covid,
but
then
what
they
put
into
the
budget
snuck
it
in
there
excuse
me,
was
just
the
prohibition
of
a
fee
so
yeah
they
could
do
that
again.
N
There
was
an
original
Bandit,
they
could
reinstitute
the
ban,
they
couldn't
and
they
could
say
that
we
don't
have
local
rural
to
do
that.
They
could
do
that
again.
You
know
pressure's
getting
greater
though
people
are
catching
on.
You
know
hugely
I
mean
I.
Think
back
when
Jennifer
Gran
did
it
brought
it
Forward.
She
she
was
right,
but
it
just
wasn't
on
people's
radar,
but
now
we
just
cringe
so
many
people
see
how
much
plastic
is
really
a
climate
crisis.
P
Well,
the
other
thing
I
just
remember
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
for
me
at
my
age,
actually
in
a
little
pain,
I
broke
my
foot
days
ago
and
it
hurts
I.
Remember
when
the
pushback
came
with
that
ordinance
and
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
yelling
and
screaming
and
whining
about
it
and
I.
Don't
remember
a
lot
of
comments
coming
from
the
big
box
stores,
it
was
a
lot
of
Uptown.
P
N
Know
we
we
did
a.
We
had
this,
this
July
free
plastic,
plastic,
free
July
thing
that
we've
done
for
a
couple
of
years
and
Milana
and
I
went
around
to
merchants
in
town
asking
for
donations
for
prizes
for
people
who
would
come
in
and
they
would
make
a
pledge
about.
You
know
what
they're
going
to
do
to
reduce
their
plastic
use
and
then
they
would
go
into
a
drawing
and
we
would
give
prizes,
and
so
we
asked
local
business
businesses
for
that
they
were.
They
were
delighted.
They
were
really
happy
about
it.
N
I
think
that,
especially
in
our
community
there's
a
lot
of
awareness
among
local
business
owners
I
think
they
almost
have
to
be
in
that
well,
a
lot
of
them
are
local.
Business
is
not
easy,
you
know,
and
it
takes
a
certain
amount
of
of
dedication
to
community
and
I.
Don't
know
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah.
Thank.
M
D
You
councilmember
I,
guess
more
of
a
a
general
statement,
because
this
is
something
that
I
do
care
about
a
great
deal
as
a
manager.
I
guess
this
is
sort
of
going
out
into
the
digital
ether
to
any
business
owners
who
may
be
watching
as
a
manager
at
a
local
Uptown
business
who
is
responsible
for
a
lot
of
the
ordering
and
a
lot
of
product
management
and
dealing
with
the
books.
We
switched
completely
from
one
time
single-use
stuff
completely:
decompostable
cups,
Lids,
sleeves
bags,
everything
and
yeah.
D
It
cost
a
little
bit
a
little
a
little
bit
more.
It
cost
us,
maybe
25
cents,
for
this
instead
of
12.,
if
your
profit
margin
is
riding
on
12
cents
of
a
transaction,
your
business
has
way
bigger
issues
than
switching
from
compostable
to
just
to
one-time
use
bags.
You've
got
a
you've
got
a
whole
other
problem.
You
need
to
deal
with
it's
genuinely
and
I
was,
as
you
were,
as
you
guys
were
down
here.
D
Talking
and
explaining
I
pulled
up
on
our
ordering
website,
out
of
curiosity,
just
to
double
check
and
make
sure
I'm,
not
crazy
thinking.
This
yeah
I
can
go
up
on
good
old
GFS
and
pull
up
all
these
compostable
things.
They
don't
cost
that
much
more.
So
it's
genuinely
not
hard
for
a
business
to
switch.
It
is
so
easy.
We
did.
A
lot
of
other
places
have
even
if
this
never
goes
anywhere.
D
If
the
state
of
Ohio
comes
in
and
says
you
can't
make
that
decision,
because
we
don't
want
you
to
remember
at
least
take
the
initiative
in
your
own
self
in
your
own
practice.
If
ever,
if,
if
you
have
a
business
in
this
town,
I
see
so
many
people
always
going.
Oh,
we
love
Athens.
We
support
other
well.
This
is
a
direct
impact
on
Athens
on
the
environment
of
Athens
that
we
live
in.
So
take
it
upon
yourself
to
do
the
right
thing.
D
M
I
I
have
a
question:
I
guess,
knowing
that
what
Kroger's
plan
is:
is
that
they're
going
to
go?
Use
plastic
bag
free?
Well,
that
also
apply
to
their
bulk
items.
They
have
if
I
go
down
and
want
some
granola
that
they're
gonna
have
paper
bags
or
paper
socks
there
for
no
they're
going
to.
L
Touch
with
the
regional
director
of
Kroger,
though
Sierra
Club
and
myself,
and
we've
been
discussing
this
for
quite
some
time
with
them,
I
think
it's
just
right
now.
Their
goal
is
just
at
the
checkout,
but
you
have
to
keep
in
mind.
They
are
not
only
the
largest
Grocer
in
the
United
States,
but
around
the.
L
And
they
go
by
different
names
and
they
have
32
of
their
own
manufacturing
facilities
here
in
the
United
States.
So
they
know
that
the
time
has
come
for
them
to
quit.
Wrapping
potatoes
in
cellophane-
and
you
know
they
know
they're
being
pushed
towards
this
direction.
We
are
little
tiny
committee
here
is
trying
to
push
them
harder
and
faster
than
their
2025
deadline
and
I
think
these
signs
we've
hit
18
to
20
businesses
here,
you've
already
got
Kindred
and
all
these
and
loads
of
places
who
do
not
give
out
plastic
bags
and
so
the
more
sign.
L
N
You
know,
I
would
also
say,
I
think
this
is
a
first
step,
it's
kind
of
like
getting
used
to
this
idea
that
really
Plastics
matter
getting
used
to
the
idea
of
making
these
changes.
You
know
there's
this:
have
you
heard
this
shop
naked?
Isn't
that
how
they
said
you're
supposed
to
buy,
you
know
buying
vegetables
that
aren't
or
various
kinds
of
things
that
aren't
wrapped
in
plastic.
N
So
it's
kind
of
a
first
step,
the
Kroger
in
Cincinnati,
when
Cincinnati
passed
an
ordinate
ordinance
prior
to
House
Bill
242.,
the
Kroger.
There
said
that
they
were
gonna,
they
were
gonna
go
along.
They
were
going
to
cut
out
their
single-use
plastic
bags
at
checkout,
so
they've
shown
that
kind
of
ability.
Now
they
didn't,
because
House
Bill
242
came
along.
Thank.
M
N
M
Am
afraid
we've
reached
our
time
and
after
that
great
presentation
and
discussion
I
would
encourage
any
community
members
who
have
additional
input
to
reach
out
to
council
via
email
share
your
thoughts
on
this
matter
and
hopefully
we'll
find
ourselves
supporting
this
measure.
We
did
have
President
nicely
correct
the
agenda
earlier,
indicating
that
we
will
not
have
the
second
presentation
from
the
Ohio
Valley
Museum
of
Discovery
tonight.
Instead,
we
will
move
on
to
our
third
and
final
item:
the
Washington
County
Jail
contract.
M
We've
been
speaking
of
contracts
this
evening,
and
this
is
one
of
our
annual
ones-
contract
for
housing
prisoners
in
the
Washington
County
Jail.
This
would
allow
the
city
of
Athens
and
the
police
department,
specifically
as
the
contractor,
to
use
the
Washington
County
Jail
to
house
as
prisoners,
those
persons
who
have
been
lawfully
committed
to
custody
by
arrest
or
court
order.
For
any
reason,
the
measure
was
this
contract
was
last
adopted.
M
So
the
biggest
and
most
significant
change
is
just
in
the
cost
we
were
around
like
85
previously
and
now,
and
this
is
for
the
daily
cost
per
prisoner
that
would
be
housed
at
the
Washington
County
Jail,
and
it's
now
a
hundred
dollars
instead
of
in
the
80s,
so
I
believe
those
are
the
main
points,
but
I
would
like
to
invite
questions
and
comments
on
this
annual
contract
from
committee
members.
Yes,
council,
member
slink.
M
J
J
So
you're
going
to
ask
that
exact
question:
I
just
didn't
get
it
beforehand,
so
I'll
find
out
and
from
time
to
time,
there's
a
need.
It's
not
daily.
In
fact
it's
not
even
weekly,
but
there
are
times
when
the
jail
list
will
in
the
Southeast
Ohio
Regional
Jail
is
full
that
we're
a
part
of,
and
then
we
end
up
having
to
go
to
spillover
and
go
but
I'll
find
out
how
many
times
in
the
last
year.
M
It
may
be
worth
noting
that
there
can
be
additional
expenses
beyond
the
100.
If
the
person
who's
arrested
requires
medical
attention,
we
would
be
paying
for
those
additional
costs
as
well,
but
I
believe
council,
member
Grace.
Yes,.
K
I
was
just
going
to
clarify
that
this
is
something
that
only
happens
if
the
Southeast
Ohio
Regional
Jail
is
full
and
we
have
agreements
with
other
jails,
not
only
the
Washington
County
one,
but
this
is
the
only
one
that
requires
a
council
to
approve
it,
and
it's
often
the
case
that
if
the
Regional
Jail
is
full,
many
other
jails
in
the
region
are
also
full.
And
so
our
police
department
does
a
significant
amount
of
calling
around
and
checking
to
find
cases.
M
I
Just
a
brief
comment:
you
know
I
remember,
sitting
in
your
seats
and
and
it
used
to
be
somewhere
around
fifty
dollars,
so
I
mean
this
is
steadily
gone
up.
The
other
cost
just
to
share
with
those
that
you'd
mentioned
is
also
the
city's
cost
of
Transport
we're
the
ones
who
would
have
to
transport
the
individual
to
set
locations
and
there's
costs
associated.