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A
Good
afternoon,
this
is
the
regular
schedule
meeting
of
the
anthem,
City
Planning
Commission
for
March
16th
2006.
It's
2:30
p.m.
all
the
members
of
the
Commissioner
or
present,
except
for
Wayne
Keith,
who
is
absent
and
then,
if
they
can
ask
for
help,
we
take
sworn
sworn
statements.
If
you're
trying
to
say
anything
when
you
stand
and
raise
your
right
hand,
do
you
swear
or
affirm,
whichever
one
you
want
to
use
at
what
just
say
will
be
the
truth.
B
C
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Lance
rep,
with
University
of
States
and
I
have
Ricker
Remus
and
Adam
sheets
along
with
me.
The
purpose
of
the
meeting
today
is
for
the
zoning
designation
that
goes
along
with
our
process
for
annexation
and
second
item
I
want
to
talk
to
is
about
some
minor
flat
changes
to
the
original
phase,
1
plat
that
we
had
done
before.
Okay,.
D
D
C
C
This
area
here
is
where
the
clubhouse
and
the
lodging
facility
goes
and
we're
zoning
it'd
be
one.
These
baby
founders
cottages
with
condominiums.
This
is
going
to
be
more
of
mixed
communities,
our
business
development
on
one
floor
and
some
scattered
and
multi-family
around
it
still
kind
of
in
the
planning.
C
C
The
rest
of
this
versus
single
family
versus
multifamily
on
the
ends
here.
These
will
be
here
basically
on
sales.
As
we
go
through
the
project,
our
plans
are
to
put
condominiums
there
that
the
housing
sales
continue.
We
probably
come
in
an
asset
to
be
reclassified.
Back
to
the
green
space
is
open
space.
The
golf
courses
is
considered
open
space.
These
areas
here,
though
they're
just
the
buildings,
are
shaded.
C
These
are
going
to
be
golf
villas,
some
of
them
of
the
owner
single
ownership,
others
will
be
timeshares
and
the
part
of
them
will
be
a
rental
pull
out
of
the
lodging
facility,
so
the
exact
location
of
those
determined
would
go
here
long.
The
old
arm
derivative
was
in
their
new
harmony.
Fridge
will
be
relocated
down
here.
This
is
where
our
maintenance
facility
and
whh
towers.
C
C
C
B
A
Don't
know
who's
gonna
read
it
and
sign
it
and
swear,
they
know
what
it
says.
I
have
a
question
about
this
that
Equestrian
Center
over
there.
What
is
the
in
this
thing?
It
says
one
area
18
is
b1
and
then
there's
an
equestrian
center,
which
is
listed
as
open
space.
What's
down
there,
where
it's
orange.
A
D
A
C
D
E
It's
just
it
just
interjects,
more
restrictions
at
a
v1
versus
a
b2
versus
a
b3,
and
there
was
very
little
b2
business
in
town.
All
of
the
B
businesses
have
Luthor
different
code
that
you
have
to
have
business
on
the
first
floor
and
on
the
second
floor
above
what
can
be
either
businesses
or
housing.
C
B
E
D
E
C
D
D
A
E
You
have
actually
planted
the
golf
course
and
the
clubhouse
area,
it's
a
step
ownership
by
the
Ohio
couple
named
the
Ohio
Club
and
then
just
to
the
left
of
that
back
toward
Armitage
Road
and
secured
at
682
has
all
been
planted.
The
first
65
Lots
by
the
through
the
Planning
Commission
and
approved
by
council
and
a
number
of
commercial
business
type
Lots
at
the
front.
All
the
rest
of
this
plan
has
not
even
planted
yet
and.
E
So
that's
why
again
I'm
saying
it
doesn't
really
matter
what
we
zone
that
in
fact,
maybe
it's
best
just
to
leave
it
even
even
as
open,
because
or
green
or
recreational,
because
you're
gonna
have
to
do
a
PUD
in
the
middle
of
there's,
not
not
50
Lots.
Here,
there's
you
know
it's
just
to
to
be
determines.
This
is
conceptual
at
this
stage.
C
C
E
E
D
E
Guess
for
what
we
used
to
just
a
real
debate,
because
it's
on
a
public
road
right
now
you
could
zone
those
fellows
are
3,
which
would
be
a
more
appropriate
zone
because,
that's
still
in
rental
property,
convenient
par-3
is
a
man
doesn't
have
to
be
either
way.
It
could
be
time,
cheers
owner-occupied
condominiums
any
of
those
types
of
things,
but
our
three
would
cover
a
lot
of
that
in
it
would
also
you
know
our.
E
For
as
a
conditional,
a
permitted
use
those
activities
that
occur
in
the
b1
and
what
you're
asking
for
is
a
b1.
But
if
we
switch
that
to
r3,
you
still
get
the
b1
as
it
conditionally
permitted
use,
which
is
what
you're
asking
for.
Plus
you
get
more
flexibility
and
their
respect
is
that
you
develop
those.
If
you
joined
villas
together
in
blocks
of
four
units
per
a
building,
it's
all
right
automatically
than
r3
that
you
can
do
that.
So
it
might
be
a
little
more
flexible
to
designation
for
it.
D
B
Would
also
partially
answer
one
of
my
questions,
which
is
that
there
seem
to
be
a
non
blood
places
on
here
where
we've
gotta
a
B
zone,
bang
up
against
an
arse
r1
zone,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
we've
been
trying
very
hard
not
to
have
that
much
of
a
disconnect
in
contiguous
zones
if
it
has
to
be
because
of
topography
and
so
on.
That's
that's
one
thing,
but
this
seems
to
be
a
place
where
you
could
eliminate
some
of
that,
except.
B
C
H
E
B
Think
this
is
a
complex
enough
and
nobody
from
the
public
is
going
to
comment.
I.
Think
it's
a
complex
enough
issue
and
hasn't
enough
public
interest
in
it,
so
that
the
Planning
Commission
should
hold
a
public
hearing
and
I
move
that
we
schedule
a
public
hearing
which
I
understand
takes
30
days
notice.
E
E
D
E
E
Would
prefer
I
guess
in
a
way
that
for
us
to
at
our
next
meeting,
probably
make
any
changes
we
wish
to
you
on
this
and
we
reflect
upon
it.
Ask
them
to
come
back,
do
ours
and
then
let
counsel
do
the
mandatory
public
hearing
and
I
think
that
would
not
make
it
so
compact
and
rushed
as
it
would
in
the
long.
A
A
C
C
We
asked
at
that
time
that
we
have
a
University
of
stage
B
cindy-lou,
because
it
was
located
within
the
city
that
three-mile
limit
of
the
city
of
Athens.
At
that
time
we
talked
about
1660
units
for
the
830
acre,
which
was
agreed
upon,
and
then
you
guys
said
several
issues
that
we
need
to
clear
up
and
part.
C
One
of
the
things
that
you
guys
had
talked
about
before
was
that
the
because
we're
outside
the
city
limits
that
the
city
wouldn't
be
inspecting,
but
yet
we
would
become
in
the
city.
So
we
worked
out
a
deal
with
the
mayor
and
Wayne
and
they've
been
inspecting
coming
out
and
doing
our
project
as
we
go
along.
We
work
with
Nick
Carr
on
the
specs
of
the
water
and
the
sanitary,
and
we
talked
about
the
bike
path,
the
wellhead
protective
action.
The
issue
was
a
topic
there.
C
A
couple
things
happen
during
this
time
period
when
you
start
in
on
a
project
this
big,
the
gas
company,
mandated
how
we
were
going
to
cross
the
high-pressure
gas
line
so
that
resulting
in
the
last
few
loss,
starting
in
about
lot
52
through
56
of
us
having
to
change
the
road
and
when
we
had
to
change
the
road.
Obviously
it's
on
the.
C
C
D
C
On
your
map,
it
doesn't
show
here,
after
we've
developed
this
idea
of
work,
put
these
in
the
calmness
and
everything
we
want
to
change
the
lower
boundary
line
of
university
of
states
to
encompass
the
gulf
pillows.
So
we're
coming
right
down
along
the
old
arm.
Anitra,
which
is
the
old
line,
is
here,
and
we
just
want
to
do
so.
It's
just
a
change
when
we
design
the
golf
course.
One
of
the
keys
comes
back
here
right
right.
E
E
E
A
E
E
E
C
E
All
right,
the
road
changes
that
you
have
here
are
any
of
them
done
or
engineered,
or
are
they
just
still
and
I
guess
I
do
done
so
that
Road
exists
yeah
and
the
other
to
the
earth.
Another
one
wasn't
to
build
at
all
yeah
and
then
put
the
other
loop
road
that
you
got
on.
This
is
done,
isn't
existence
no.
A
E
Roadway
system,
I
guess
on
the
left,
adding
to
a
property
that
you
required
that
was
on
the
original
as
being
outside,
then
just
adding
a
portion
of
that
to
each
side
of
a
watt,
one
and
plot
two
and
then
creating
dropped,
50
to
a
50
to
be
5656
a
and
changing
the
boundary
of
the
road
toward
the
end
of
the
plat.
Because
you
shifted
it
slightly.
E
A
D
D
E
D
E
I
D
J
The
news,
that's
okay,
the
new
subdivision
regulations
say
that
a
a
plaid
amendment
or
a
replanting
of
a
previously
planted
area
recorded,
unrecorded,
signed
unsigned,
shall
follow
procedures
and
requirements
established
by
the
Planning
Commission.
So
I'd
recommend
that
one
of
those
be
at
this
time
that
a
new
Platteview
lines
metes
and
bounds
descriptions
and
have
signature
lines
at
a
minimum
for
the
service
Safety
Director
and
the
chair
of
the
Planning
Commission
you'll
have
to
decide
if
you
want
to.
If
you
do
decide
to
have
a
new
plateau
signature
lines.
J
J
J
A
D
E
J
E
Steve
you're
recommending
that
the
next
step
is
for
the
sub
divider
to
create
a
new
right
and
miler
and
then
have
a
listing
of
what
the
changes
are.
Probably
on
that
from
the
other.
Early
doesn't
have
to
be
on
the
mile
bar,
but
submitted
does
right
and
then
at
that
time
we
could
then
vote
on
it
and
decide
that
that's
enough
or
not,
and.
E
J
A
E
A
D
A
K
Hello,
I'm
Rick
Kirk,
with
Edwards
communities
in
Columbus,
at
Ryan
Pierce
with
Mia,
who
has
our
land,
planner
and
consultant.
We're
back
with
this
landmark
proposed
project,
thought
it
might
review
a
few
of
the
things
with
which,
where
we
were
last
time
when
we
came
in,
we
had
167
units
and
we
did
have
a
four-story
building.
K
K
We
were
asked
to
investigate
some
of
the
safety
concerns
and
with
respect
to
the
parking
structure
that
we
have
proposed,
we
have
met
with
the
the
landowner,
the
mr.
casler
and
we're
in
the
process
of
working
out
an
agreement
with
him
for
some
lighting
and
pedestrian
access.
We
do
have
a
currently
have
a
pedestrian
easement
that
exists
and
we're
discussing
with
him.
Some
possible
additional
improvements
to
the
sidewalk
area.
That
would
give
us
some
additional
lighting
if
needed,.
K
Some
of
the
things
that
we
have
on
our
site
here
we
we
believe
that
this
is
a
an
excellent
location
for
higher
density.
The
scale
of
the
buildings
will
be
consistent
with
the
building's
long
court
Street
and
in
the
area.
They're
all
three-story,
the
convenience
in
terms
of
the
proximity
to
campus
and
community
amenities
is
anywhere
from
three
to
ten
minute
walk.
We
will
have
our
own
community
facilities
that
will
serve
our
community,
which
will
have
a
fitness
area,
theater
social
rooms,
computer
lab
outdoor
grills,
those
kinds
of
amenities.
K
We
have
fully
furnished
units
we'll
have
a
private
bedroom
pilot
private
bath,
individual
thermostats,
full
kitchen
in
terms
of
security,
all
the
bedrooms
will
have
locks
will
have
smoke
detectors
in
each
unit
will
have
panic,
alarm
and
panic
alarms
in
each
unit,
which
will
be
monitored
by
our
facility.
Fire
activated
sprinkler
system,
we'll
have
our
own
on-site
management,
which
will
have
resident
Patrol
off
we'll
have
hopefully
an
off-duty
officer
that
lives
on
our
project,
which
we
have
done
in
the
past,
will
have
community
assistance
that
will
help
us
with
security.
K
We
think
that
this
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
city.
You
have
an
existing
vacant
building
with
the
IGA
building
and
the
landmark
property.
There
are
environmental
issues
that
we
will
clean
up.
We
think
this
will.
This
project
will
counteract
the
neighborhood
mobilization
and
lessen
the
demand
on
single-family
homes
in
the
neighborhood
beacon
being
converted
to
apartments.
K
K
K
This
will
serve
as
a
buffer
between
the
Mill
Street
neighborhood
and
provide
an
edge
along
Stimson.
Avenue
Stimpson
is
an
area
that
is
somewhat
blighted
and,
and
we
would
be
the
first
to
well
part
not
necessarily
first
but
part
of
a
redevelopment
of
the
Stimson
corridor,
establishing
sidewalks
street
lighting
street
plantings
in
a
neighborhood
and
a
architectural
edge.
K
K
K
Project
we
didn't
meet,
might
add
with
the
disabilities
Commission
recently
yesterday
and
went
over
design
requirements
that
they
might
have,
we
thought-
and
they
are
well
along
in
terms
of
those
needs
and
felt
like
all
of
the
questions
that
they
had.
We
could
incorporate
it
in
the
project.
There
was
some
request
for
relocation
of
handicapped
spaces,
and
those
are
some
things
that
will
incorporate
into
our
final
plan.
If
you
are
feel
satisfied
to
give
us
our
preliminary
vote
today,.
H
We're
required
by
code
to
provide
two
percent
type
in
a
units
on
the
ground
floor,
which
is
the
more
restricted
with
the
lower
the
countertops
I
think
we
agreed
to
join
y7.
They
do
four
percent,
which
it
equates
to
two
two
units
would
be
that
type
a
and
we
talked
about.
We
would
associate
those
with
convenient
ata
spaces,
the
other
place
of
baths
for
a
few
more
spaces
if
we
could
get
them
along
yeah
alley
here,
which
I
think
we
can
accomplish
that
in.
B
K
We
did
I
part
of
the
requirement,
I
think
there's
some
some
confusion
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
work,
because
someone
would
have
to
do.
We
already
have
thresholds
and
doors
and
countertops
and
light
fixtures,
levered
faucets,
all
those
things
we
would
incorporate.
We'd
actually
have
some
removable
cabinets
and
some
of
the
units
I
mentioned
that
in
the
past,
when
we've
had
special
requests,
even
though
the
federal
law
requires
that
that
the
tenant
pay
for
the
improvements,
we've
always
assisted
and
actually
paid
for
it
ourselves.
K
K
F
G
I
D
F
K
K
J
It's
been
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
the
several
variances
will
be
needed
for
this
project
is
because
bands
at
least
two,
maybe
three
different
zoning
districts
and
I
presented
a
packet
of
documents
and
provided
a
copy
also
to
the
developer
I'm.
In
case
it's
decided
in
order
to
minimize
that
total
number
of
variances
that
the
landmark
site
currently
zoned
M,
could
be
a
rezone
to
R
3,
and
that
would
I
realize
it's
just
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
drill
kind
of
academic,
but
it
does
minimize.
J
Then
the
number
of
variance
is
necessary,
because
so
many
restrictions
in
Emma's
own
now,
the
least
of
which
is
not
residential
electric
occupancy,
is
not
even
permitted
so,
and
my
recommendation
also
was
not
to
rezone
the
supermarket
site
because
it's
on
the
Stimson
corridor,
it
would
be
a
residential
change
to
that
quarter.
So
my
recommendation
was
just
to
keep
that
Bob's
IgA
site
B
3
leave
the
parking
lot.
R
3,
where
parking
lots
are
permitted,
use
rezone
the
M
district
at
Landmark
2,
R
3,
which
is
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
area
right
there.
J
So
there
was
a
whole
rezoning
that
took
place
down
there
at
that
time
to
where
some
m
zones
were
eliminated,
you
know
and
that
the
railroad
track
is
not
there
anymore,
there's
really
no
transportation.
Access
to
that
so
and
I
think
the
Planning
Commission
had
looked
at
rezoning
all
the
M
zones
in
town
at
one
time,
so
that
information
is
out
there
already
could.
A
D
J
J
Just
right,
and
then
there
are
some
setback
requirements
too,
for
structures.
So
those
things
those
issues
won't
go
away
on
the
on
the
garage
I'm,
as
proposed
looking
at
the
strict
application
of
the
r3
zoning
requirements
which
are
in
effect,
even
if
it's
considered
to
be
part
of
the
Planned
Unit
development.
The
way
the
ordinance
is
written
for
the
theoretical,
most
flexible
type
projects,
the
most
restrictive
requirements
of
plausible.
So
that
would
be
our
three,
so
there's
setback
requirements,
maximum
height
maximum
coverage,
those
kinds
of
things.
J
E
J
Neither
one
of
these
property
they're
in
they
will
be
in
the
control
of
the
developer,
but
not
in
their
ownership,
so
deed
restrictions
not
an
option
since
they
don't
own
it
hockey,
Valley
Bank,
for
example,
in
the
parking
lot,
but
there
will
have
some
there
have
to
be
some
sufficient
documentation
that
the
parking
will
always
go
with
this
project.
So
there's
really
three
partners
in
that
agreement.
A
I
I'm
Anne
Isaacs
I'm,
a
resident
out
of
heritage,
Commons
and
I'm.
Here
with
some
of
my
neighbors,
we
wish
to
formally
protest
this
project.
That's
only
met
land,
formerly
known
as
landmark
and
Bob
supermarket
we're
right
across
the
street
from
landmark
built
up
close
to
the
street.
The
density
of
the
project
as
it
proposed
will
surround,
engage
in
our
residents.
We
already
have
a
plethora
of
student
housing
in
our
neighborhood
and
we
already
have
the
accompanying
noise
pollution
and
excess
traffic
associated
with
student
housing,
and
we
don't
look
forward
to
an
increase
in
it.
I
We
would
appreciate
a
senior
citizens
having
our
concerns
with
this
project,
be
a
factor
in
the
decisions
of
the
planning
can,
and
we
welcome
a
dialogue
with
you
on
this
subject.
I
would
appreciate
when
you
come
down
and
look
at
our
area
that
you
see
how
we
are
right
up
by
the
street.
This
is
going
to
really
impact
us
in
a
big
way.
I
You
would
have
to
be
down
on
there
in
our
area
on
Thursday
night
Friday
night,
Saturday
night
and
Sunday
night
to
appreciate
the
kind
of
noise
we
put
up
with
the
pollution
in
there's
a
fraternity
right
directly
behind
us
there's
trash
on
the
street
all
the
time
it
just
makes
for
a
real,
uncomfortable
neighborhood
we
like
living
where
we
are.
We
have
very
comfortable
apartments,
but
I
would
appreciate
some
some
input
and
I
do
have
some
signatures
of
our
residents
that
I'd
like
to
get
you.
L
E
We
obviously
know
it's
not
connected.
No,
obviously
it
isn't.
He
had
said
that,
as
with,
for
example,
the
Cornwall
project
at
the
end
of
practically
the
end
of
court
Street
when
that
was
before
the
Planning
Commission
some
years
ago,
some
of
the
parking
he
had
for
that
was
not
on
that
physical
site.
E
So
he
had
to
tie
that
up
by
that
he
owned
the
other
property
in
this
case,
but
they
had
to
tie
it
to
that,
probably
could
be
used
for
parking
for
any
other
use
that
had
to
be
a
designated
for
that
project
to
meet
the
parking
requirements,
any
sale
of
the
apartments
would
have
to
have
the
sale
of
a
parking
garage
or
the
change
of
ownership
would
have
to
go
with
it.
So
the
city
wouldn't
find
itself
with
a
parking
garage
that
was
sold
off
and.
D
L
There's
none
of
you
time
together.
Isn't
that
a
possibility
with
this
situation
they
don't
own
the
parking
lot.
They
have
500
and
some
cars
over
there
and
they
don't
even
own
the
lot
right
or
traditionally,
when
we
have
developments,
you're
allowed
to
deed,
restrict
parking
within
250
feet,
but
you're
required
to
own
a
lot.
So
there's
always
a
possibility
that
whatever
agreement
they
have
might
might
not
hold
up
in
a
long
run,
one
side
might
say:
hey,
we
don't
like
what
you're
doing,
and
we
want
to
dissolve
this
lease
in
this
relationship.
L
D
H
D
L
We've
asked
these
questions
to
some
lawyers
in
though
we
haven't,
got
the
answers
back
yet
so
yeah
well
we're
still
waiting
and
that's
why
I
wonder
how
we
can
even
proceed
until
we
have
answers
to
some
of
these
questions.
Like
is
this
even
a?
Is
this
a
PUD
in
your
eyes,
I
mean
yeah.
Is
that
the
rest?
Do
you
agree
that
there's
no
idle
buildings
on
on
one
side?
It
has
to
be
a
fee,
but
it's
not
even
on
one
site.
L
It
doesn't
take
another
section
of
land
and
say:
okay,
let's
go
and
see
if
we
can
work
out
a
deal
with
this
and
use
this
for
550
parking
spaces,
especially
2/3
of
an
acre,
what's
one
way
in
and
one
way
out
on,
one
of
our
major
thoroughfares
Hawkin
street.
So
you
know
we
need
to
take
a
good
look
at
this.
This
is
this
is
big
anyway
of
something
else.
Sometimes
the
more
research
to
do
sometimes
the
more
confusing
it
gets.
L
But
this
is
the
pod
requirements
and
back
in
January
2004
introduced
by
Jim
sands
20
1.09
Oh.
It
says
in
bold
letters
chapter
that
says:
Planned
Unit
development
shall
conform
to
all
zoning
code
requirements
for
putts
located
within
the
corporate
limits
of
the
city
of
Athens.
If
there's
any
conflict
is
zoning
cut
with
the
zoning
code,
the
more
restrictive
will
apply,
which
throws
it
back
to
the
zoning
code.
L
E
We
can
only
state
what
the
changes
are
they
from
remembering
to
discuss
when
counsel
passed
that
and
it
was
related
to
Herald
Square
caused
most
of
it,
because
they
then
passed
that,
after
the
approval
of
Herald
Square,
they
then
said
that
zoning
for
the
Planning
Commission
needs
to
point
out
anywhere
that
it
is
not
in
conformance
with
the
zoning,
the
underlying
zoning
that's
there,
and
so
that's
what
big
that
what
mr.
Pearson
was
talking
about.
E
L
Where
are
we
going
with
all
these
massive
variances
that
these
guys
are
requesting?
That's
that's
what
I'm!
That's
what
I'm
not
confused
about
this
is
in
our
code,
it's
obviously
part
of
our
code
and
they
talk
about
conforming
a
code
when
it's
handy,
but
when
it
comes
to
these
other
mega
variances,
they
need.
They
seem
to
pretty
much
ignore
our
code.
So
I
want
to
go
over
a
few
things.
L
A
L
I'm
just
gonna
make
some
comments.
A
parking
garage
to
me
is
is
the
big
problem
with
this
project.
What
they've
seen
move
done
has
gone
over
to
Bob's
and
gone
over
to
landmark
and
and
and
compacted
as
many
apartments
as
they
could
possibly
fit
on
there
anyway.
I
want
to
start
out
with
the
parking
garage.
The
parking
garage
would
be
the
tallest
building
in
Athens,
since
Bromley
Hall
was
built
in
the
mid
60's.
L
That
was
before
we
had
our
current
zoning
code,
which
started
in
1968.
This
location
of
the
parking
garage
site
is
an
r3
zone
and
a
structure
this
size
would
be
totally
out
of
character
for
the
city
of
Athens.
It
would
erode
further
erode
the
small-town
charm
that
exists
now.
It
would
also
be
visible
from
many
areas
of
the
city
and,
and
it
won't
be
pretty
residential
housing
surrounds
his
site
on
three
sides,
including
mine,
and
a
couple
other
people
that
are
present
here.
L
Will
be
seven
storeys
and
seventy
feet?
That's
massive
I
went
up
the
other
day
to
the
parking
garage,
uptown
and
I,
measured
it
just
to
get
a
perspective
as
to
what's
what
and
that's
60
feet.
I
went
up
on
top
of
that
roof
and
I
looked
down.
Dropping
my
tape
measure
not
tell
you
it's
high
up
there
very.
D
L
And
add
10
more
feet
to
that,
and
that's
what
that's
what
we
have
here
with
these
fellas
that
would
totally
dwarfed
my
housing
and
anybody
else's
housing
down
there
on
this
on
the
Palmer
Street
area,
totally
just
not
fit
so
I
think
we
need
to
do
is
well.
You
need
to
understand
how
massive
this
is.
I
mean,
go,
uptown
and
stand
next
to
that
parking
garage
and
look
up.
It's
almost
the
same
length
as
theirs
would
be,
and
that
height
is
just
it's
huge.
The
lot
coverage
is
40%
in
this
zone.
L
It
looks
to
me
like
they
want
to
cover
95%
of
it.
It's
like
wall-to-wall
parking
garage.
You
know
just
totally
obliterating
these
bolts
controls
that
we
have.
Current
setback
is
25
feet
in
the
front
40
feet
in
the
back
and
approximately
10
feet
on
each
side.
The
proposed
garage
appears
to
have
very
little
setbacks
on
all
four
sides,
so
they'll
be
right
up
against
people's
property
lines
closer
to
them.
Anyway.
L
L
There
are
also
also
other
issues
with
the
accessibility
from
fire
and
ambulance
going
down
that
little
narrow
little
street
traditionally
parking
garages
have
proven
to
be
nuisance
structures.
We
know
that
from
the
one
we
have
right
across
the
street.
They
often
Harbor
vandalism,
crime,
excessive
noise
and
litter
I'll
guarantee
and
all
those
things
will
be
happening
in
here.
Whether
you
have
an
on-site
guy
or
not.
There
are
questions
about
the
so
called
pedestrian
easement.
L
We
have
basically
found
no
record
of
that
pedestrian,
easement
I,
don't
know
what
you
got
cooked
up.
We
don't
see
it
on
the
record.
I
know
you're
in
in
to
me
in
a
kadhai
with
certain
people,
but
we
found
that
easement.
That
goes
from
this
parking
lot
to
Hawking
Valley
Bank
area,
but
no
easement
that
goes
from
what
you're
talking
about.
Is
that
something
that
you're
still
working
honor.
L
Right
now,
that's
so-called
pedestrian
easement
is
not
even
used.
The
people
that
use
that
parking
lot
walk
through
an
opening
in
the
fence
right
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
my
property,
diner,
so
they're,
not
even
using
that
easement
now,
which
makes
me
wonder
if
they'll
ever
open
that
up
or
if
it
even
exists
or
will
exist.
On
top
of
all
this,
this
it's
only
2/3
of
an
acre
by
the
way
it's
beaten,
this
site
was
was
a
contaminated
site.
L
It
used
to
be
Standard
Oil
property,
not
that
long
ago
it
was
sealed
with
this
at
sealed,
with
asphalt,
sealed
with
asphalt
and
uses
the
parking
lot
for
the
last
several
years.
Well,
when
that
happened,
I
recall
people
saying
well
it's
a
good
idea
that
places
contaminated
we'll
seal
it
up
Park
a
lot
good
use.
Well,
that's
fine!
One
layer
of
parking
is
fine,
it
does
the
job,
but
when
you
start
building
up
the
seven
storey
parking
garage
you're
talking
about
massive
excavation
and
massive,
you
know
you'd
revisit
that
contamination
problem
down
there.
L
L
I
L
L
Associates
that's
I'm,
just
kind
of
paraphrasing
this
real
quick.
They
had
several
concerns
about
the
preliminary
utility
plan
they
are
listed
below.
All
existing
utilities
should
be
evaluated
to
determine
if
their
capacity
and
condition
is
adequate.
Number.
Two:
here's
the
key
issue,
no
utilities
existing
or
proposed
shall
be
located
under
any
proposed
structure,
let
alone
a
seven-story,
concrete
and
metal
parking
garage.
How
are
we
going
to
access
these
if
we
have
problems
with
it?.
L
D
L
Rest
of
that
study
actually
is
down
at
the
code
office.
If
we
need
to
look
at
it
more
there's
a
few
more
pages
to
deal
with
easements.
But
the
important
thing
is
here
is
that
that
they
want
to.
They
want
us
to
protect
our
utilities
in
our
infrastructure
down
here
and
we're
not
we're
not
doing
that
by
having
this
massive
garage
hanging
over
now,
I'm
almost
done
under.
L
Underneath
there
under
the
law
exists
one
of
the
main
storm
source
of
Athens,
it's
six
feet
in
diameter
and
drains
much
of
the
north
side
of
downtown,
including
a
lower
half
of
court
Street
and
all
the
area
upper
on
carpenter
and
North
Congress
after
a
good
rain.
It
carries
a
tremendous
amount
of
water
if
we
were
ever
to
have
a
problem,
resolving
big
problems
for
that
low-lying
area
which
is
considered
the
floodplain
down
there,
there's
also
a
large
sanitation
line
that
runs
parallel
with
it
and
there's
also
a
water
line
that
runs
parallel
with
it.
L
L
L
L
Should
be
forty
percent,
it
appears
on
here
to
be
anywhere
two
to
sixty
five
to
seventy
percent.
It's
like,
let's
see
how
many
we
can
pack
over
here
and
then
go
over
to
this
parking
garage
and
say
how
high
do
we
have
to
go
to
accommodate
all
the
cars
we
just
put
over
here
on
the
residential
side?
That's
not
responsible
and
that's
not
reasonable
development.
L
L
About
a
hundred
and
fifty
tenants
per
acre,
that's
dense,
hugely
dense.
There
are
almost
600
tenants
less
on
less
than
four
acres
by
comparison.
University
Commons
had
four
hundred
and
forty
tenants
on
11
acres
setback
requirements
are
the
same
as
for
the
garage
again,
the
project
doesn't
seem
to
meet
those
requirements.
N
D
L
For
a
PUD
status
and
that
Holly
puts
this
whole
project
into
a
highly
questionable
status,
to
begin
with
we're
waiting
all
these
all
these
weeks
for
an
answer
to
come
back
from
on
whether
this
is
a
putt
or
not
a
putt,
and
what
do
we
do
with
it?
We
need
to
know
that
before
we
can
move
on,
I
mean
you
have
the
ability
to
say
this
as
a
partner,
we
went
through
mr.
hunter
Anya,
okay,.
L
Ball
controls.
You
know
the
code,
the
height
restrictions,
setback
slot
coverage
they're
in
our
code
for
a
reason,
they're
in
our
code
to
control
density.
You
control
density
by
saying,
don't
build
more
than
forty
that
you
control
density
by
saying:
don't
go
more
than
35
feet.
You!
You
protect
your
neighbor's
property,
your
neighbors
rights
by
saying,
don't
build.
F
L
L
Okay,
this
project
needs
to
be
done
in
a
reasonable
fashion
and
just
have
a
few
seconds
ago.
You
know
what
fits
fit.
Follow
the
code
put
the
put
the
apartments
on
the
Bob
site
put
the
parking
in.
If
you
want
to
maximize
and
put
the
parking
underneath,
the
unit's
you
still
have
them.
You
still
have
a
luxury
of
going
over
to
the
landmark
from
over
to
the
parking
garage
and
have
a
90
more
spaces.
Who's
ever
had
that
luxury
close
by
like
that,
so
you
could
go
build
the
apartments
maximize.
L
You
know,
I
could
say
what
fits
fits.
You
can't
you
can't
just
go
beyond
that.
So
just
you
know
we're
asking
for
just
reasonable,
reasonable
logical
development
and
reasonable
decisions
and
the
Planning
Commission
when
it
comes
to
when
it
comes
to
this.
This
huge
project
that
will
impact
a
lot
of
people
and
I
hate
to
see
you
a
seven-story
parking
garage
on
matches.
What
I
tell
people
about
this?
They
say
you,
you
sure
you
got
that
right.
I
said:
yeah
yeah,
it's
really
a
seven
story.
Parking
garage
I
mean
we're.
J
L
Here's
the
parking
garage,
yeah,
okay,
here's
my
building!
Well,
actually,
all
this
is
my
property
along
here.
You
don't
worked
hard
for
that.
Probably
it's
a
parking
right
now!
No,
that's
that's!
These
are
duplexes!
Oh
okay!
In
the
back
of
these
houses,
when
you
come
out,
the
back
of
these
houses
you'd
be
looking
at
a
70
foot
wall
and
that's
not
going
to
be
pleasant
and
that's
devaluing
my
property.
Now.
L
D
D
L
M
A
G
M
Afternoon
that,
as
a
member
of
Athens
City
Council
for
most
of
the
1990s
I
was
involved
in
several
projects,
one
being
University
Commons
as
chairman,
and
of
the
planning
and
economic
development,
I
sponsored
and
supported
two
or
three
big
or
medium-sized
projects,
one
being
University
Commons,
one
being
the
condos
on
West,
Union
and
I
think
also
the
mill
hire
project
and
probably
smaller
other
projects.
So
basically
everything
that
came
before
me
as
a
council
member
I
worked
with
supported
and
most
of
those
have
passed
and
are
now
fine
projects.
M
M
Seven
and
a
half
for
one
hire
guys
guys
I,
just
don't
think
it
fits
our
town.
I
think
we
all
know
that
I
think
this.
This
little
scale
photo
which
they
show
from
Stimson
Avenue
over
the
bank
with
a
parking
garage
in
the
background.
Let's
get
a
realistic
scaled
photo
of
a
parking
garage
and
set
it
down
there
and
see
what
it's
going
to
do.
All
those
houses
are
two
storeys
now
this
is
good
at
our
five
and
a
half
stories
above
the
houses
that
exist
now.
That's
my
math
is
correct.
M
So
basically,
the
height
of
our
parking
garage
out
here
will
be
the
height
above
the
rooftop
and
that
whole
area
there's
not
one
billion
down
there.
That
I
think
is
more
than
two
stories,
including
any
of
the
commercial
on
Stimson
Avenue,
except
for
guy
flips,
his
property
on
twenty
West
Empson
Avenue
across
from
the
new
shop.
That's
a
three-story
building,
but
everything
around
it
is
too.
So
it's
good
at
our
five
point,
five
storeys
above
everything
that
exists
down
there.
A
A
M
Another
thing
that
does
bother
me:
it
seems
that
with
the
size
of
the
garage,
the
character
of
the
city
is
in
jeopardy,
but
it
seems
like
we're
trying
to
make
their
numbers
work,
because
we
all
know
the
rumor
that
they
need
the
size
to
make
their
numbers
work.
The
40%
lot
coverage
was
put
in
place
years
ago,
so
things
would
remain
what
Athens
is
and
we
don't.
M
We
don't
change
them
now,
because
of
numbers
I,
remember
working
with
University
Commons
the
owners
down
there,
we're
not
happy
that
we
were
making
them
do
one
parking
spot
per
bedroom.
It
was
a
new
change
in
the
code.
We
did
it
for
a
reason.
We
did
it
because
parking
is
a
problem
in
this
town
and
requirements
over
the
years
now,
and
that
has
helped
parking
is
better
now
because
of
projects.
But
why
would
we
bend
the
rules
so
much
and
ruin
our
character?
Why
are
we
doing
this?
Why
are
we
considering
doing
it?
M
M
A
J
B
J
M
J
J
A
J
Properties
came
through
with
their
Hill
Herald
Square
project
on
the
backside
of
the
fairgrounds
over
there.
The
way
the
regulations
were
written
at
the
time.
It
said
that
the
Planning
Commission
could
grant
variances
for
lot
size,
setbacks,
lot
coverage
and
number
of
you
a
number
of
buildings
on
a
lot.
The
Planning
Commission
could
do
that
when
your
recommendation
went
to
council
about
Herald
Square
Council
questioned.
Why
don't
we
have
an
attachment
here
that
says,
and
these
variances
are
needed.
J
The
answer
was
the
code
didn't
require
them
the
Planning
Commission
granted
them
as
per
what
the
code
said.
So
right
after
that,
council
changed
it
and
that
section
related
to
Planning
Commission's
authority
to
grant
some
types
of
variances
not
parking
or
anything
like
that.
Just
lot
size
lot.
Setback
lot
coverage
some
of
those
really
bulk
issues.
J
Council
tagged
on
to
the
front
of
that
with
concurrence
of
3/4
majority
of
council,
the
following
variances
with
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
may
be
approved.
So
it
looks
to
me
in
my
opinion,
some
variances
would
only
need
a
majority
of
council
save
for
parking,
others
related
to
lot
size
lot.
Coverage
building
height
setbacks
require
3/4
majority
of
council,
so
that
was
a
lot
of.
This
was
a
washout
from
the
Herald
Square
project.
Now
the
section
of
Patrick
read
awhile
back.
J
That
was
an
amendment
added
by
council,
probably
a
year
or
so,
even
beyond
that,
where
the
section
was
added
at
the
beginning
of
the
PUD
regulations
that
everything
had
to
comply
with
the
most
restrictive
code
prior
to
that
it
used
to
say
if
there
was
a
conflict
between
the
PUD
rags
and
the
zoning
code,
the
PUD
regs
would
prevail,
Council
amended
it
to
say
the
most
restrictive
would
prevail
when
there
was
a
conflict.
So
obviously
it's
always
gonna
be
the
zoning
code
is
going
to
be
the
highest
standard.
M
M
H
J
J
It
if
you
has
been
discussed,
you
include
the
parking
garage
area
or
not,
that
number
might
fall
down
hold
40%.
If
you
did
not
include
the
parking
garage
site
and
only
considered
the
Bob
landmark
area.
You've
got
some
drawings
there,
I
think
that'd
show
quite
a
bit
of
green
space.
I
mean
the
open
spaces
or
the
space
is
not
occupied
by
buildings
are
illustrated
in
green,
where
the
buildings
are
illustrated
in
yellow.
So
it's
nowhere
near
there's
a
lot
of
open
space,
especially
if
you
don't
look
at
the
garage.
J
I'm
another
thing
you
know
because
well
because
you're
bound
by
the
strictest
requirements,
the
strictest
requirements
as
far
as
zoning
is
concerned,
are
a
little
different
actually
than
what
mr.
hunter
just
mentioned.
It
used
to
be
that
the
PUD
regs
said
there
had
to
be
a
parking
space
per
bedroom.
Now
now
the
code
says
a
parking
space
per
occupant,
so
anybody
in
the
rental
business
in
town
knows
that
all
you
need
is
120
square
feet
or
a
room
10
by
12
to
get
two
people
in
it.
J
A
A
A
J
Answer
the
question
about
density:
there
are
several
different
ways
to
calculate
density,
people
per
acre
units,
curve,
land
area,
square
footage
or
acreage
density
covered
with
buildings
and
parking,
but
the
zoning
code
just
says:
1,250
square
feet
of
lot
area
per
unit.
Now
that
can
be
a
unit
with
one
person
in
it
or
that
could
be
a
unit
with
five
people
in
it.
So
it's
you
really
can't
compare
number
our
code
doesn't
compare
people
to
area
two
compares
units
to
area.
M
Finished
I'm
I'm,
just
just
into
a
wrap
up
I,
would
like
to
say
you
know:
the
code
exists
for
a
reason.
Density
here
seems
to
be
blown
out
of
the
water
56%.
We
have
40%
in
our
code,
the
parking
garage,
seven
and
a
half
story
parking
garage
guys,
it's
just
not
going
to
fit
down
there.
It's
good,
it's
good
to
ruin
our
little
town.
It's
just
not
what's
designed
to
be
put
down
there
in
a
residential
neighborhood
I'm,
not
against
apartments.
In
this
area,
I
would
like
to
see
the
Bob's
area
remain
commercial
if
possible.
M
A
O
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
something
for
everybody
to
think
about,
and
that
is
that
it's
hard
to
discuss
the
intent
of
an
ordinance,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
city
ordinance
that
allows
offsite
parking
was
drafted
in
order
to
give
some
way
for
uptown
property
owners
to
develop
existing
properties
where
there
was
no
way
to
provide
parking
on
site.
A
good
example
would
be
the
Woolworth
Building
I
mean.
What
can
you
do.
O
O
You
can
I
have
a
hard
time
our
time
with
this
argument,
because
I
wasn't
really
sure
about
whether
we
should
discuss
what
the
intent
was.
But
I
think
that
is
pretty
clear
that
on
this
kind
of
site,
you
should
be
able
to
provide
the
parking
what
the
development,
what
the
redesign
of
the
Stimson
Avenue
corridor,
has
done
to
their
parking,
which
was
already
less
than
up
to
code.
Even
with
a
parking
garage.
I,
don't
know.
O
O
There's
one
other
little
note
that
I
would
like
to
point
out:
I
did
talk
to
David
panitch
of
panitch
and
Knoll,
who
originally
bought
this
park
a
lot
at
the
end
of
Hocking
Street
from
Bob
Meredith
or
tried
to
buy
it
when
they
did
their
test
borings.
They
ran
into
a
one
to
two
foot
thick
layer
of
as
David
described
it
goo
the
test
bores,
who
I
who
I
think
was
geotech
out
of
columbus
called
him
and
they
came
down,
and
this
was
a
number
of
years
ago.
O
Granted
people
are
a
lot
more
uptight
about
what
was
below
services,
especially
banks
and
panel,
basically
bailed
on
their
idea
of
the
project
right
away.
I,
don't
know
what
they're
gonna
do
for
foundation
for
the
parking
garage.
I
suspect
it's
going
to
be
some
kind
of
pillars,
but
something's
got
to
happen
with
the
soil.
That's
there.
O
It
may
just
be
able
to
be
trucked
to
a
fairly
innocuous
site
and
gotten
rid
of,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
be
should
think
about
as
an
issue-
and
you
know
you
guys
could
I'm
sure
David
pan
should
be
glad
to
tell
you
what
he
knows
about
the
site.
It
was
a
number
of
years
ago,
but
if
you
don't
already
know
he
can
can
fill
you
in
I'm
sure
he
would
do
that
thanks.
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Milt
Greek
I'm,
not
a
neighbor
of
the
site,
I'm
a
concern
resident
for
the
Westside
I'm
sure
this
has
been
a
while
you're
more
difficult
days
and
I'm.
Sorry
that
you
have
to
hear
another
person
drone
on
I
come
prepared
with
remarks
about
how
I
saw
the
site
going
and
all
I
think
in
light
of
what's
been
said
so
far,
I
have
to
say
that
I
urge
the
project
be
tabled
for
further
citizen
input.
G
I
haven't
heard
anyone
who
is
from
Athens
and
supported
this
project
last
time
I
was
here,
I
talked
to
you
about
what
would
happen
if
something
like
this
was
put
there.
Would
people
start
living
there
continuously?
Would
they
start
moving
out
we're
hearing
from
neighbors
and
there's
a
unanimous
voice
among
them
that
this
is
going
to
devalue
their
property
and
make
their
lives
harder?
G
G
I
didn't
expect
to
see
them.
There
see
them
here
and
I'm
simply
going
to
speak
as
honestly
as
I
can
I
have
the
privilege
of
living
with
my
wife's
mother,
and
she
has
made
my
last
few
years
very
happy
once
the
older
people
of
our
community
are
some
of
the
most
valuable
and
important
and
how
we
treat
them
is
how
we
see
our
own
future.
If
you
would
want
to
live
next
to
this
site,
as
they
will
and
I
urge
you
to
approve
it.
G
If
you
would
look
at
this
site
and
agree
with
them
that
this
is
not
where
you
would
want
to
live,
I
urge
you
to
make
the
site
something
that
you
would
want
to
live
next
to
you
all
can
go
home
to
your
community
to
wherever
you
want
to
live.
This
is
their
home.
This
is
where
they
will
live
and
their
fate
is
in
your
hands.
G
C
N
David's
turquoise
Athens
Ohio
I'd
like
to
just
present
a
little
perspective
on
what
will
happen
if
this
was
in
place.
Now
the
issue
seems
to
be
parking
and
all
the
parking
for
this
whole
area
would
be
here
if
this
is
in
place
say
in
the
fall
when
the
residents
come
back
to
Athens,
ideally
of
course,
they're
going
to
park
their
cars
in
the
garage
and
then
they're
going
to
wheel
their
suitcases
over
here
to
their
apartments.
N
But
what's
really
going
to
happen,
is
they're
going
to
bring
in
the
trucks
and
the
trailers
and
everything
else
they're
going
to
mark
Stimson,
Avenue
they're
going
to
park
on
turn
the
alley
every
place
they
can
possibly
get
to
get
close
to
their
residences.
There's
no
access
into
this
place
anywhere,
except
on
foot
from
the
perimeter
and
that's
a
bad
design.
N
F
Brad
J,
given
local
landowner,
I
actually
came
here
today,
not
to
talk
at
all.
I
just
wanted
to
hear
everything
that
was
said
and
then
heard
about
this,
a
seven
story,
parking
garage
and
where
it's
gonna
be
located,
and
this
just
came
to
mind
and
hopefully
that
it's
not
the
case,
but
we
got
a
seven
story:
parking
garage
next
to
a
bunch
of
kids,
a
bunch
of
wild
and
crazy
college
kids.
What
were
they
gonna
do
with
a
seven
story-
parking
garage-
hopefully
nothing
hopefully
parked
there.
What
happens
if
I
don't
know?
F
Three
and
a
half
stories,
probably
for
a
reason.
Okay,
let's
say
that
happens.
Let's
say
another
kid!
Another
drunk
kid
he's
all
depressed.
He
goes
on
top
of
the
seven
storey
parking
garage,
it's
right
next
to
his
house.
What's
he
gonna
do,
hopefully
nothing.
Hopefully
he
comes
right
back
down,
but
that's
just
something
popped
in
my
head.
If
it
even
happens,
it's
horrible
and
we're
kind
of
providing
that
opportunity.
If
it's
right
there
thank.
J
A
D
J
J
Get
closer
to
the
bars
I
just
like
to
say
that
for
the
public
to
know,
I
think
the
chair
has
been
very
gracious
to
let
people
speak
today.
The
public
hearing
requirement
is
between
preliminary
approval
and
final
approval.
So
that's
the
official
opportunity
for
people
to
speak,
I
think
you've
shown
great
latitude
today.
A
B
B
B
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
think
the
comprehensive
plan
that
was
greeted
with
a
lot
of
pleasure
by
the
various
groups
that
participated
in
developing.
It
made
it
quite
clear
that
there
was
a
recommendation
that
higher
density
areas
around
the
campus
should
be
established,
partly
to
prevent
the
mobilisation
of
arwen
neighborhoods
into
rental
student
metal
neighborhoods
farther
land
around
the
city,
and
that
having
this
project
also
will,
according
to
the
design
that
that
the
developers
have
presented,
will
also
start
us
on
a
streetscape
type.
B
D
B
F
B
A
Opposed
say:
no,
no
I,
don't
you
know,
my
philosophy
is
that
you
shouldn't
get
preliminary
approval
to
a
to
a
project
that
has
many
many
things
that
need
that
need
attention.
I
just
feel
that
it's
encouraging
that
the
developers
and
that
those
changes
should
be
made
before
we
even
discuss
any
of
these
things
so
and
I
should
also
like
to
point
out
that
the
comprehensive
plan
has
not
been
adopted
so
whatever
is
in.
A
E
A
E
A
E
A
A
D
E
Contact
with
the
adjoining
property
owner
in
Ohio
University
to
see
if
they
could
dispose
but
there
to
keep
it
off
the
city
streets.
This
is
just
a
letter
acknowledging
that
the
university
has
entered
into
an
agreement
with
him
for
up
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
cubic
yards.
That
would
be
spread
on
the
university
property
adjacent
to
it
and
therefore
not
go
out
on
the
streets.
F
J
As
Edwards
communities
had
said
last
night
that
they
they
had
appeared
before
the
disabilities,
Commission
made
a
presentation,
campus
edge
actually
had
documents
that
I
presented
the
disabilities
Commission
last
night,
also
that
review
by
the
disabilities
Commission
as
the
requirements
before
you
can
get
a
final
approval.
I.
J
Spoke
with
mr.
daddy
recently,
he
is
now
in
the
midst
of
changing
engineering
firms.
His
new
engineer
will
be
I
believe
it's
MBE
engineering
from
Lancaster
Ohio
yeah
there's
transferred
documents
between
the
previous
engineering
firm,
his
firm
I'm.
Presently
they
are
dealing
directly
with
Bill
Garrett
Murchison
nibel
I'm
up
in
Columbus.
That's
still
that
same
agreement,
because
not
being
very
technical
in
nature.
Any
of
us
here
we're
looking
for
the
opinion
of
the
engineer.
That's
why
we
contract
those
professional
services,
so
especially
the
storm
water
detention
structure.
J
Is
you
know,
that's
the
major
outstanding
issue,
so
that's
what's
being
discussed
right
now,
just
as
soon
as
you
see
resolution
to
that
and
an
accurate,
a
completely
accurate
site
plan,
that's
when
they'll
be
back
now.
A
site
plan
has
been
reviewed
and
approved
by
the
tree.
Commission,
that's
another
prerequisite
for
final
approval,
so
the
tree
that
part's
been
accomplished
for
campuses.
J
In
writing
from
Bill
Garrett
that
he
doesn't
see
that
it's
going
to
be
a
problem.
They
have
an
accurate
site
plan
that
you
can
look
at
and
review
I.
Think
if
you
recall
the
last
time
you
saw
the
owner
96
bed
project.
There
were
five
or
six
pages
that
were
done,
especially
for
concerns
that
each
commissioner
had
I
know.
The
mayor
in
particular,
wanted
to
see
color
coding
of
parking
spaces
in
relationship
or
adjacency
to
where
they
were
actually
being
used
to
see.
How
far
does
somebody
really.
J
J
B
J
Not
changed
significantly
because,
as
you
recall,
the
896
bed
project
had
these
significant
excavations
as
part
of
the
change
in
topography,
so
that
has
not
significantly
changed,
nor
has
the
condition
of
the
soil.
So
a
lot
of
those
things
are,
you
know
already
in
the
record.
They've
already
been
looked
at
so
but
again,
I
told
mr.
dowdy.
Please
bring
an
entire
clean
copy
with
correct
our
engineering
firm
stamp
on
at
correct
date.
Revision
dates,
those
kinds
of
things,
so
the
record
will
exactly
reflect
what
was
reviewed
on
that
day.
If.
B
D
J
I
could
ask
him
to
make
that
presentation.
I
know
that
he's
been
working
with
century
21,
Realty
March
Spezza,
to
make
contact
with
those
property
owners
I
believe
it
at
least
in
one
case,
a
purchase
agreement
has
been
reached,
but
mr.
dowdy
would
be
the
one
they'd
have
to
give
you
the
exact
here's.
Here's
the
owners.
We've
talked
to
here's
where
we're
at
at
this
time.
One
other
thing
I'd
like
to
ask
for
and
just
explain
to
the
public.
J
If
you
want
to
look
at
any
of
these
documents
related
to
any
project
for
the
Planning
Commission,
it
was
had
a
recent
staff
meeting
the
service
Safety
Director
said
that
all
the
documents
would
be
kept
in
my
office
and
I.
Think,
as
mr.
mr.
Rose
had
indicated
a
lot
of
the
information
he
got
was
down
at
my
office.
So
if
I
could
get
a
copy
of,
for
example,
the
petition
from
the
Heritage
Commons
to
copy
that,
and
a
copy
of
the
letter,
for
example
from
mr.
D
B
A
J
A
A
G
G
E
B
A
A
E
B
D
E
D
D
E
B
Part
of
the
other
nobody's
gonna
have
yeah,
but
he's
gonna
have
he's.
Gonna
have
fitness
center
and
stuff
like
that
on
first
floor.
Yes,.