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A
Okay,
I'd
like
to
call
the
Planning
Commission
into
session
for
Thursday
April
20th
time
is
2:30
3:00
p.m.
I'm
picked
own
acting
chair
present
pirate
Babel
and
Harry
Connick
Eva
absent
Irwin
key
and
Joanne
Presley.
If
anyone
wishes
to
speak
during
this
session,
please
stand
and
affirm
that
you'll
be
telling
the
truth
say:
I
do.
A
B
My
name
is
Steve
Harris
and
I'm.
The
Zoning
Administrator
for
the
city
of
Athens,
Ohio
and
I've
provided
a
packet
of
information
to
you
that
accompanied
request
of
my
office
for
a
use
permit
at
315,
East
State
Street
I
encourage
my
officers
now
to
accept
applications
and
do
some
preliminary
review
before
I
ID
do
the
final
review,
and
in
this
case
mr.
smelter
was
speaking
with
Paul
Eschenbach
ur
at
my
office.
Originally
mr.
Aschenbach
er
thought
that
mr.
B
smelter
might
be
able
to
go
directly
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
asked
for
a
variance
from
the
section
of
the
code
that
permits
a
home
occupation
where
someone
living
in
a
home
can
use
up
to
50%
of
their
floor
space
in
their
own
private
residence
as
early
as
an
r1
zone
in
order
to
conduct
business
as
I
reviewed
it
and
spoke
to
mr.
smelter
and
mr.
Aschenbach
er.
Mr.
smelters
proposal
is
just
to
completely
convert
this
home
in
an
r1
single-family
zoning
district,
she's,
strictly
commercial
use,
office,
use
and
I'll.
B
B
What
it
does
is,
it
indicates
the
proximity
of
the
property
itself
to
the
adjacent
business
zone.
This
is
on
this
side
of
route
33
on
East,
State
Street,
and
it's
right
across
may.
Avenue
from
Superamerica
Superamerica
is
the
start
of
the
b3
zoning
district.
That
runs
all
the
way
out
on
the
State
Street.
So
this
is
the
furthest
furthest
extent
back
into
the
intersection
of
the
city
where
business
is
allowed
to
be
conducted
now
just
down
the
street
and
on
the
other
side,
there's
a
b1,
neighborhood
business
district.
That's.
B
B
What
I
noted
on
the
refusal
was
there's
a
Code
section
that
says
before
you
can
apply
for
a
use
variance
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
The
Planning
Commission
has
to
review
the
proposal
first
and
make
a
recommendation
to
the
board
so
and
I.
Hopefully,
in
that
packet
of
information
that
you
have
its
zoning
code
section.
B
B
A
grandfathered
legal
non-conforming
use
there
had
been
some
question
about
it
in
the
past
because
they
actually
a
quit
pumping
gas
there
for
a
while
they
still
sold.
Snacks
had
like
a
little
carry
out
for
a
while
and
still
had
auto
repair
going
on.
There
I
had
some
questions
from
people
in
the
neighborhood.
When
they
essentially
took
out
the
food
service
and
just
converted
it
essentially
turned
it
all
into
auto
repair.
B
Did
that
not?
Was
that
not
a
violation
or
did
it
not
cause
there
grandfathering
to
expire?
I
did
talk
to
the
law
director
about
that,
and
essentially
what
he
told
me
was.
There
was
a
voluntary
reduction
in
non-conforming
use,
so
they
had
food
service
and
auto
repair
going
on
and
they
voluntarily
cut
essentially
cut
in
half
they're
non-conforming.
B
Use
you
have
to
go
clear
down
to
the
next
street
where
on
the
corner?
Well,
it
does
kind
of
show
it
right
here.
No
I
take
that
back.
You
have
to
go
clear
down
to
not
north
Shannon
the
next
street
down,
there's
a
parking
lot
right.
Next
to
premier
video,
your
video
is
in
the
b1
zone:
okay,
but
they're,
two
of
their
Lots
that
have
parking
on
them,
adjacent
to
the
corner,
we're
zoned
r1.
So,
technically
speaking,
that's
why
you
don't
see
much
parking
going
on
on
that
corner.
B
B
Property
I
just
I'm
at
Superamerica
all
the
time,
but
I
don't
pay
too
much
attention
to
the
house.
I
just
drove
down
before
the
meeting
to
look.
There
is
a.
There
is
parking
for
two
two
cars
on
the
lot:
there's
a
single
car
garage
and
a
driveway
approach
that
goes
up
to
the
garage.
So
there's
parking
for
two
in
the
back.
E
Meltzer
14300
cool
Ville,
Ridge,
Road,
Athens,
Ohio
and
currently
renting
office
space
at
92,
North
Court
local
business
owner
would
like
to
make
a
more
permanent
commitment
to
the
community
by
buying
something
I've
looked
high
and
low,
primarily
on
Court,
Street
and
main
arteries
that
have
some
energy
to
them.
With
the
exception
of
Richland
Avenue
and
as
far
as
Court
Street
goes,
things
are
very
expensive
trying
to
offset
it
with
student
rentals
above.
E
But
if
you
do
any
kind
of
converting
or
any
kind
of
renovating
to
those
buildings
which
I
would
like
to
do
and
make
them
more
attractive
and
better,
then
you
have
to
have
some
associated
parking
and
that
becomes
a
more
expensive
proposition.
Yet
so
I
got
the
idea.
I
kind
of
drove
around
and
I
saw
that
there
are
a
number
of
businesses
even
on
East,
a
days,
Realty,
etc
that
have
converted
homes
into
offices
and
I
thought
that
might
make
a
nice
match.
E
So
I
kept
my
eye
on
that
for
about
six
months
or
so
and
then
about
six
months
ago,
I
noticed
this
home.
It
went
for
sale
by
owner
I
got
into
a
contract
pending
a
favorable
outcome
from
the
Board
of
Zoning,
Appeals
and
I'm,
hoping
to
to
get
some
leniency,
or
some
granting
of
be
able
to
use
that
space
for
business.
It's
a
small
financial
advising
consulting
firm
three
employees,
total
and
I,
don't
want
to
correct.
E
We
don't
met.
We
just
met
today
what
Steve
Pearson
he
person,
yep
yep
yep,
the
number
of
parking
spaces
I
was
able
to
park
when
I
went
to
to
look
and
see
if
I
wanted
to
buy
the
property.
I
was
able
to
park
behind
the
owners
who
were
we're
outside
of
the
garage,
so
I
counted
it
as
three
spaces,
but
perhaps
officially
it's
only
two
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
works
out,
but
so,
but.
E
Hopefully,
that
would
be
the
idea.
Yes,
yes,
indeed,
yep,
you
know,
eight
to
five
type
of
business
high-end
clientele
want
the
building
to
stay.
Looking,
nice
and
very
professional.
So
in
terms
of
aesthetics,
it
would
be
as
good
or
better
it's
actually
a
rather
attractive
property.
Now,
but
I
think
it
can
be
made
a
little
more
manicure,
a
little
bit
understand
a
little
bit
better
and
it's
on
a
corner
get
some
some
decent
visibility.
E
The
case
I
was
thinking,
was
you
know
it's
right
across
from
a
lot
of
bright
lights,
that
I
got
a
gas
station
and
across
the
other
way
from
a
auto
repair
shop,
which
I'm
sure
create
some
noise,
though
I've
not
been
there
to
hear
that,
but
I.
Imagine
during
the
day,
there's
some
noise
there,
so
I
thought
it
might
make
a
nice
match
for
a
businesses
that
are
residents.
D
C
D
F
C
E
D
B
E
Properties
for
sale,
according
my
broker,
more
than
three
of
them
have
been
up
there
for
a
year
and
he
cites
the
reason
that
people
just
don't
want
to
live
where
there's
so
much
traffic
facing
that
street
and
I
would
agree
that
protecting
the
area's
neighborhoods
in
tact
is
a
tremendous
priority.
But
I
would
argue
that
on
that
on
that
main
artery
facing
a
state
that
gets
so
much
traffic
that
possibly
that
might
make
a
nice
spot
for
a
commercial
business
and
keep,
then
it
wouldn't
be
a
student
rental.
E
It
would
keep
things
quiet
at
nighttime
and
that
may
benefit
the
community,
especially
with
this
kind
of
business
and
has
for
expansion
in
the
event
that
that
occurred,
I
would
expect
to
have
to
appear
before
board
and
get
their
blessing
and,
if
not
began,
to
look
for
some
other
properties
that
might
accommodate
that.
That's
what
I
was
thinking,
I
didn't
I,
don't
know
how
all
that
works.
That
was
my
assumption.
F
F
E
To
get
in
and
out
at
the
end
it
also
it
has
the
luxury
of
being
on
a
traffic
light
which
makes
things
a
little
easier
and
again
I,
think
being
in
a
traffic
light.
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that's
a
it
seems
like
a
more
business
thing
to
me
than
you
know.
When
I
come
to
an
intersection
at
traffic
light,
it's
generally
not
in
the
middle
of
residential
area,
it's
usually
in
some
kind
of
commercial
zone.
So
there's
you
know
the
exhaust
and
so
forth,
is
spewing
out
and
that
you
know
for
folks.
E
E
F
E
F
E
F
E
And
I
guess:
I
do
have
one
other
point
that
I've
kind
of
touched
on,
but
I
haven't,
come
out
and
said
it
and
said
it
clearly,
mr.
Kaneshiro,
and
that
is
the
idea
of
a
buffer
zone.
What
I'm
kind
of
getting
out
there
is.
This
home
sits
between
one
of
the
very
nice
neighborhoods
in
Athens
and
the
gas
station
service
station.
You
know
people
buying
cigarettes,
this
kind
of
activities
going
on
all
the
time.
This
home
would
create
I
think
a
very
nice
buffer
for
those
for
those
folks.
E
That
would
not
want
to
see
all
of
that
transaction
and
all
that
light
and
all
that
noise
etc
and
maybe
keep
things
quieter
and
dimmer
by
I
mean
my
place
function
as
again,
an
8
to
5
office,
and
then
you
know
and
keep
it
looking
as
an
attractive.
Oh
my
don't
wish
to
do
any
modifications
other
than
any
require
for
a
bathroom
for
disability,
etc.
So
that
might
be
a
point.
I
hadn't
said
before
a
clear
fashion.
E
E
E
A
Well,
why
don't
one
of
my
concerns,
as
we've?
We've
talked
often
them
for
a
long
time
about
the
number
of
owner-occupied
houses
and
family
I
kept
occupied
houses
in
Athens
and
the
fact
that
that's
been
going
down
steadily-
and
this
is
one
that
at
this
point
is,
is
able
to
be
occupied
by
a
family
and
if
it
were
a
student
Randall,
it
would
be
constrained
by
that.
No
more
than
three
unrelated
people
cry.
D
A
C
No
no
I
mean
I
think
the
lot
of
it
would
be
like
the
hazy
real
estate
and
everything
that
existed
a
long
time
ago
and
it
got
grandfathered
in
that
situation.
I
was
thinking
some
of
that
parking
lot
by
pure
3d
and
the
reasons
it's
r1h
ten
houses
on
and
then
those
were
torn
down
and
a
lot
kind
of
expanded
who
used
to
work
on
earth.
Realty
used
to
be
hot,
george.
F
C
D
B
If
this
is
considered
by
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals,
it's
a
consideration
for
a
variance
not
for
rezoning.
So
it's
a
use
of
variance
variances
are
allowed
to
have
safeguards
and
conditions
attached
to
them.
For
example,
no
more
than
three
employees
review
by
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
or
the
Planning
Commission
after
one
year
of
operation.
There
there's
some
things
a
zoning
board
can
attach,
so
it
won't
go
forever
to
a
business
use
unless
it
is
Riis
owned
and
rezoning
is
a
whole
different
whole
different
ballgame.
B
Now,
as
far
as
notification
to
adjoining
property
owners
that
takes
place
at
the
advertisement
for
the
zoning
code.
So
all
the
people
that
live
right
across
the
street
or
just
adjacent
to
it
are
notified
and
then
there's
a
legal
notice
is
published
in
the
athens
messenger.
Prior
to
that,
and
then
my
agenda
list
is
now
emailed
to
all
neighborhood
associations,
so
Nina
will
pick
up
on
it
right
away
and
know
that
there's
a
request
that
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
for
a
use,
variance
not
a
rezoning.
B
So
it's
not
something
that
if
you
know
if
the
Zoning
Board
says:
okay,
it's
not
something
that
goes
on
forever.
Necessarily
they
can
attach
any
kind
of
condition
it
that
it's
reasonable,
as
you
can
think
of,
and
you
know,
I'm
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
sway
you
one
way
or
the
other,
but
if
you
would
decide
we're
favorable
recommendation,
you
could
attach
some
things
like
that.
B
You
know
that
we
recommend
that
it
be
reviewed
by
the
board
or
by
the
Commission
after
one
year,
or
that
no
more
than
three
employees
be
allowed
to
be
there
at
any
one
time
that
no
exterior
signage
be
allowed.
I
mean
there's
a
whole
multiple
of
different
conditions
and
safeguards
that
could
be
attached.
I'm,
not
trying
to
sway
you
one
way
or
the
other,
but
it's
not
like
it's
something
that
then
is
done
forever,
can
never
go
back.
No.
E
F
F
C
I,
wouldn't
know
what
conditions
Stephen
started
to
consider
off
the
top
of
my
head
without
really
looking
at
it,
but
I'm
really
disturbed
about
a
potential
change
in
use
in
an
r1
when
those
people
who
are
known
the
properties
around
they're,
not
aware
of
it,
because
we've
had
other
requests
over
the
years
for
across
the
street,
from
the
v3
to
go
into
an
architect's
office
of
114
time.
As
I
recall,.
C
F
C
Recent
ones
in
the
last
two
or
three
years,
I,
just
I,
would
not
be
adverse
to
to
continuing
it
from
the
standpoint
of
trying
to
give
some
input
from
the
neighborhood
and
such
I
wouldn't
mind
here
as
real
as
if
there
really
is
a
sale
problem
in
that
area,
so
I
would
have
be
adverse
to
continuing
it.
I
will
be
in
favor
of
granting
anything
today.
I
think.
C
C
C
F
A
A
C
D
B
C
That's
my
understanding.
If
we
do
that
today
he
does
not
have
the
opportunity
to
come
back
to
us
with
the
same
right
thing
of
running
right
and
that's
why
I
read
the
continuance
for
everybody
to
think
about
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
get
more
information
about
it,
but
I
think
time,
Pacific
I
will
get
some
neighborhood
input.
C
Definitely
I!
Think
that's!
The
most
important
to
me
is
the
other
property
owners
in
that
area
in
and
with
them.
You
know
even
now,
not
very
far
from
Elmwood
and
a
lot
of
other
areas,
but
I
know
that
in
that
area,
because
if
you
just
go
down
Main
to
Elmwood
and
go
in
right,
yeah,
Walden's
they're
probably
been
there
50
60
years.
F
C
B
F
B
Do
some
additional
notification
way
outside
the
scope
of
anything
that's
required
for
other
reviews
instead
of
just
notifying
adjacent
property
owners,
I
could
write
a
specific
letter
to
all
property
owners
within
500
feet.
I
could
put
a
legal
ad
in
the
newspaper
that
says
on
such-and-such
day
the
Planning
Commission
is
going
to
consider
this
review.
I
can
make
sure
that
that
all
the
information
gets
to
Near
East,
Side,
neighborhood
association.
So
there's
some
there's
a
lot
of
advertising
or
publicity
that
I
could
do
and
I
think
that's
what
the
mayor
is
most
concerned
about
is.
B
Is
this
something
I
mean
it's
one
thing
to
look
at
the
Comprehensive
Plan
and
hear
what
everybody
says,
but
then,
when
it
really
comes
down
to
a
specific
site,
I
know,
is
this
general
idea
of
really
what
we
want
here
and
admit
the
answer
may
be
yes,
so
without
that
input
from
the
neighborhood
you
just
you
just
don't
know
so
I
could
do
that.
For
example,
you
could
table
a
condition
upon
my
notification.
A
F
C
C
Well,
I
think
it's
an
element
is
that,
even
though,
as
Steve
rightly
points
out,
we
could
put
conditions
on
this
particular
utilization
that
would
lessen
the
impact
in
an
r1,
but
still
at
some
point
down
the
road
it
gets
sold
again.
You
know
and
then
you've
got
a
building,
that's
been
partially
converted
to
a
non
residential
use,
and
that
is
hard
to
sell
because
you
have
a
very
limited
market.
So
in
some
ways
I
mean
I'm
more
used
to
something
that
would
be
a
business
though
it
isn't
listed
like
it's
more
appropriate.
C
A
A
B
There
have
been
particulars
on
e
board,
has
attached
a
condition,
for
example,
that
the
variance
only
goes
with
the
current
applicant
or
current
appellant.
They
can't
sell
the
business
or
sell
it
as
a
business
use.
This
is
exclusively
for
their
use
and
expires
when
they
no
longer
use
the
property
in
that
manner.
So
the
zoning
Board's
done
that
it.
B
E
Just
a
comment
on
theirs
coming
the
reconversion
back.
Of
course
the
onus
will
be
on
me
to
not
lose
money
that
I
know
you
know
if
I
did
some
things,
that
would
make
it
more
appropriate
for
a
business
and
then
I
wanted
to
sell
it
back
as
a
residence
and
not
go
through
more
periods
and
so
forth.
Then
the
owners,
of
course,
would
be
right
here
to
make
sure
that
I'm
doing
that
in
an
efficient
manner
and
not
losing
money
in
the
process.
So,
with
this
kind
of
aside
no.
A
A
A
A
F
A
F
A
A
F
F
Whoa
and
then.
A
B
Let's
see
this
one
is
a
copy
that
I
said
that
I'd
get
to
you
about
a
review
by
engineering
associates
about
utilities
at
the
site.
Let's
see
this
one
is
this:
is
the
documentation
that's
required
for
a
rezoning
which
you
mentioned
it
would
take
place
considered
at
the
next
meeting
next
Thursday
Oh
for.
C
B
Is
it's
a
copy
of
the
land
development
ordinance?
It's
copy
of
a
letter
I
received
from
Muriel
Grimm
representing
the
Athens
Environmental
Committee.
It's
a
copy
of
a
new
addition
to
the
land
development
ordinance
which
requires
that
a
developer
not
generally
change
the
size,
shape
and
topography
of
a
property
and
then
there's
my
response
letter
to
miss
Grimm
I.
E
B
Under
the
specific
requirements
or
regulations
or
guidelines,
it's
just
listed
in
the
purpose
yeah
and
that's
why?
If
you
read
those
letters,
I've
expressed
the
fact
that
it's
very
good
to
be
very
problematic
for
myself
for
the
Service
Safety
Director
to
determine
when
someone
is
generally
changing
this
right
and
they're
not
generally
changing
the
site.
I
know
some
cases
that
will
be
very
obvious
that
they're
generally
changing
it,
but
something
so
general
just
creates
I
mean
it's
interpretive.
Then
you
have
to
write.
D
B
C
C
C
I
mean
this
is
what's
happening.
Is
it
by
that
people
who
are
making
different
interpretations
of
it?
Looking
at
it
in
different
ways,
you
really
need
to
spell
things
out
when
we
start
talking
about
land
development
or
any
ordinance,
it
really
needs
to
be
more
than
in
a
statement
of
purpose
if
it
has
no
other,
as
you
go
down
through
the
land
development,
our
ordinance,
it's
not
included
in
the
definitions.
It's
not
in.
How
do
you
get
the
administration?
How
to
even
each
I
mean
it's
just
left
hanging
is
or
almost
like
dangling
punts
I.
C
A
D
C
You're
taking
it
in
one
sense,
you
can
take
where
someone
has
a
home
on
the
dairy
side
burns
it's
destroyed,
in
other
words,
well
to
raise
it
above
the
hundred-year
flood
elevation,
which
was
what
you
have
to
do
under
the
sections
of
our
code.
Bb
changes
in
topography
that
law.
What
are
you
gonna?
Do
just
abandon
that
like
that,
because
yeah.
A
A
C
C
Bergen
fell
into
their
various
things
in
order
to
build
on
those
Lots.
So
is
this
something
because
normally
the
land
development
ordinance
doesn't
really
impact
us
very
much,
but
I
can
see
now
with
that
kind
of
interpretation
in
there
you
know
we
leading
developer
down
a
path
that
mm-hmm,
then
we'll
conflict
with
something
else
that
we
don't
have
anything
to
say
about
down
the
road
that
I
find
that
problematic.
B
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
you'll
see
proposals
when
it
has
to
do
with
a
subdivision,
because
the
section
of
land
development
ordinance
speaks
to
sites,
five
acres
or
greater
in
area
or
subdivisions.
I
have
a
couple
homes.
Excuse
me
being
built
right
now
on
Carroll
Road
there
in
it
was
an
area
annex
not
too
long
ago,
and
maybe
five
six
years
ago,
it's
on
the
left-hand
side
as
you're
going
into
Oakmont
and
those
Lots
sloped
off
drastically.
B
As
a
matter
of
fact,
when
the
Planning
Commission
reviewed
the
annexation
request,
they
had
recommended
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
that
anyone
who
needed
a
setback
variance
be
allowed
to
do
that.
Just
because
the
challenge
the
bog
rafi
there
now
some
builders
have
chosen
just
to
bring
in
truckload
after
truckload
of
fill
in
order
not
to
have
to
ask
for
a
variance
and
fill
the
lot
up.
So
they
can
actually
have
a
structure
there
that
doesn't
have
a
high
wall
on
the
basement.
On
the
back,
that's
40
feet,
tall
I,
don't
know
and
see.
B
That
would
be
a
case
where,
as
a
Zoning,
Administrator
I
would
have
to
apply
that
to
even
the
construction
of
a
single-family,
home
and
I'd
well,
I'm,
not
sure
I,
don't
I
would
say.
In
that
case
I
mean,
if
you
had
to
ask
me
I,
probably
say
yeah
they're
generally
changing
it,
because
it
was
a
ravine
and
now
they're
making
it
flat.
B
So
when
you
have,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
when
you
have
areas
that
if
the
town
is
about
70%,
either
hillside
or
floodplain
and
you're
required
to
elevate
in
the
flood
hazard
area
and
you're
required
to
create
building
and
slope
stability
on
a
hillside,
you
could
interpret
that
to
me
and
you've
just
nullified
any
kind
of
development
in
seventy
percent
of
the
town
well
elsewhere.
In
the.
C
B
Just
so
you
know,
I
had
one
developer
asked
me.
The
other
day
says
you
know
what
I
have
to
generally
change
the
topography
of
the
lot
just
to
drain
the
water.
On
occasion,
I
mean
one
of
my
first
considerations
before
I
even
get
water
and
sewer
there
I
have
to
make
sure
that
I
can
get
rid
of
the
stormwater.
I
can
actually
build
there.
So
it's
just
and
I
just
copied
you
why?
Because
it
will
apply
in
large,
peds
and
subdivisions.
A
F
B
It
is
the
political
time
of
the
year
and
the
Athens
sign
ordinance
related
to
political
advertising
is
akin
to
one
from
Painesville
Ohio
that
was
found
to
be
unconstitutional,
and
so
my
ability
to
enforce
that
essentially
no
longer
exists
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
if
it's
alright
with
you
is
to
give
you
an
ordinance.
That's
already
been
challenged,
might
even
just
get
the
one
from
Painesville
Ohio,
because
I'm
sure
it's
passed
legal
muster,
and
so
we
can
have
something
to
regulate
political
science.
B
They've
rewritten,
it
said,
oh
because
now
there
really
isn't
anything,
you
could
go
out
and
put
up
a
billboard.
Now
you
could
have
signs
of
any
size
that
you
want
it
in
your
yard.
Now,
everybody's
being
real
good
about
it,
honestly
I
mean
we
don't
have
large
signs.
I
have
my
normal
ones
that
are
out
on
the
right
away:
kind
of
the
orphan
signs
that
I'm
still
pulling
up,
but
I
have
no
ability
to
require
the
bonding
that's
required
from
a
political
candidate
nor
to
limit
the
size.
D
D
E
B
You
I
have
quite
a
few
outstanding
issues
with
the
law
directly
I'm
at
the
moment,
and
I
can
keep
this
list
for
the
city
planner
when
they
get
here
sure,
because
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
I
don't
mind
to
do
it,
and
it's
not
that
hard
to
do
really,
but
a
city
planner
would
be
professionally
trained
in
those
kinds
of
things
to
recommend.
Yeah,
recommend
ordinances,
zoning
changes
and,
to
maybe
be
a
little
more
forward-looking
than
I
I.
Don't
have
the
time
to
be
able
to
do
that.