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A
December
7
2006,
using
of
their
hats
and
city
planning,
Commissioner
Rehn,
reschedule
meeting.
It
is
231.
We
have
everyone
in
the
commission
present
I
take
sworn
statements.
If
you
plan
to
say
anything,
if
you
do
please
stand
raise
your
hand,
do
you
affirm
swear
that
whatever
you
say
will
be
the
truth.
A
Our
first
case
is
zero.
Six
one,
eight,
the
rezoning
of
twenty
four
point,
one
three
acre
parcel
at
the
intersection
and
he
was
15
32
South,
barren
road
from
r1
to
b3
zone.
This
was
we
had
a
public
hearing
on
this
November
30th.
B
Sorry
I
was
not
able
to
attend
the
public
hearing.
One
of
the
things,
though,
that
I
heard
that
came
up
during
that
discussion
was
some
questions
about
the
mapping
the
the
proposed
map
or
the
exhibit
map
that
it's
with
the
documents
was
a
document
that
I
generated
based
on
looking
at
the
official
zoning
map
and
in
this
particular
area,
it's
very
hard
to
distinguish
where
the
existing
boundary
line
is
that
so
this
drawing
may
not
be
an
exact
representation
of
how
much
land
is
contiguous
between
the
current
b2
zone
in
the
area
that
mr.
B
B
Another
issue
that
was
brought
up
was
this
map
that
I
just
document
that
I
generated
was
based
on
information
that
I
got
from
the
County
GIS
system
and
it
indicates
a
property
owned
by
Fred
Weber
at
the
corner
of
South
Blackburn
in
5032.
That
is
not
in
his
ownership
and
I.
Think
that
that
was
a
question
that
was
brought
up
to
this
map
could
just
as
easily
be
whited
out
and
the
proper
owner
indicated
on
that
corner
lot.
There
are
other
maps
at
the
County
GIS
site
that
do
indicate
proper
ownership.
B
Miss
Reeves
in
particular
owns
a
piece
of
property.
There
that's
identified
on
this,
as
still
was
wetland
I
believe
miss
Reeves
notified
the
county
that
the
map
should
be
amended
and
I
also
spoke
with
Ken
Highland,
who
does
all
the
mapping
work
for
the
county
and
he's
talked
to
I
guess
the
old
guard
helps
them
maintain
the
site
and
they
will
amend
this
particular
map
and
to
reflect
proper
ownership.
B
Because
I
did
not
yeah
when
I
first
read
some
of
the
newspaper
articles
about
it.
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
I
did
not
include
that
area
in
this
mapping.
It
may
have
been
identified
wrong
on
the
map,
but
it
was
not
included
in
the
boundary
of
the
area
proposed
to
be
rezone.
Okay,
also
on
this
too
and
I've
spoken
with
mr.
Weber
about
it,
there's
a
little
tiny
strip
of
land
in
between
Missouri's
property
and
mr.
B
B
So
can
you
see
that
little
tiny
strip,
so
it
may
be
included?
And
if,
if
it
is
true
that
it
is
in
mr.
Webber's
ownership,
then
that
line
should
be
shifted
over
also
to
include
that
little
strip,
because
I
believe
it's
his
intention
to
rezone
all
the
land.
That's
associated
with
that
particular
property.
B
Yeah
at
the
most
it
just
barely
touches
in
there
down
in
the
corner
there
anything
yeah
there
was
our
three
close
to
that
area,
but
it's
since
been
changed.
That's
the
Green
Hill
subdivision
on.
If
you
remember
that
case,
it's
fairly
recent
within
a
year,
the
other
r3
that
you
see
down,
there
is
westfield
place
subdivision
plan
to
develop
no.
A
B
I'm
not
sure
what
it'd
be
honest
with
and
when,
when
new
surveys
are
done,
a
lot
of
times,
acreages
are
amended,
your
deed
really
doesn't
a
lot
of
times.
Older
deeds
will
say:
22
acres,
more
or
less,
with
a
lot
of
exceptions
out
of
them
when
they
actually
do
a
new
survey,
and
you
use
current
technology
that
they
have
at
the
County
engineer's
office
to
check
the
mathematical
accuracy
and
what
they
call
close.
The
survey
to
see
if
the
meets
and
bounds
description
actually
does
geometrically
enclose
an
area
and
then
exact
acreage
can
be
determined.
B
B
F
Purchased
the
property
in
1992
from
Margaret,
Weber,
Fred,
Weber's,
mother
and
she
was
a
lovely
lady
and
as
it
turned
out,
I
the
deed
showed
four
point,
something
acres
that
I
had
purchased
and
we
figured
out
that
that
wasn't
correct.
It
was
amended
to
the
2.01
acres
which
I
do
own,
and
then
this
was
looked
at
again
in
1996
and
transferred
to
me
again
in
1996
with
that
acreage,
which
is,
to
all
intents
correct.
So.
A
B
A
G
G
For
myself,
that's
because
that's
where
I
grew
up
and
and
when
we
sold
the
property,
we
were
tickled
that
Marianne
bought
the
property,
because
we
knew
that
she
would
show
pride
with
the
property
and
the
fact
that
she
says
now
that
she'd
like
to
register
as
a
historic
site.
I
feel
as
irrelevant
to
this
issue.
G
I've
heard
that
the
term
failed,
intersect,
I
had
not
heard
that
term
failed
intersection
in
the
last
week
and
I
contacted
Thomas
Camden.
This
safety
engineer
for
district
10
over
in
Marietta
and
I
have
his
phone
number
and
extension
number.
Anyone
would
like
it,
and
he
says
he
is
aware
of
intersection.
G
Has
some
issues
but
most
great
intersections
on
four-lane
highways
do
have
issues,
and
he
says
that
since
the
property
is
inside
the
city
most
likely
to
be
the
city's
responsibility
to
make
any
improvements,
he
went
on
to
say
that
he
would
not
use
the
term
failed.
Intersection
I
agree
that
the
intersection
leaves
a
lot
to
be
desired
and
I
reviewed
a
recent
study
done
by
ordered
by
the
copper
each
townhomes,
which
were
proposing
a
development
off
North
Blackburn
and
Kimes
Lane
through
the
re-engineering
and
traffic
engineering
services
of
September
of
2004.
G
G
A
little
bit
the
fact
that
they
were
proposing
a
development
on
the
other
side
of
50
and
32
which
to
go
to
Athens
from
there,
you
would
have
to
cross
all
four
lanes
to
head
in
that
direction,
whereas
my
property
lays
on
the
other
side
of
the
highway
that
wouldn't
be
quite
as
bad,
but
I
really
think
now.
I
should
start
encouraging.
We
have
my
neighbor's
to
lobby
to
have
a
traffic
light
installed
there,
because
it
is,
it
is
not
a
great
intersection,
it
would
be
improved.
G
G
G
Concern
about
potential
blasting
on
the
site,
I
think
is
potential
for
site
preparation.
I
think
it's
exaggerated
I
do
not
propose
to
build
an
eight-lane
highway
on
the
property.
I
agree
that
the
state
of
Ohio
allowed
contractor
building
the
highway
to
use
excessive
blasting,
and
they
were
in
irresponsible
and
dealing
with
us
after
they
caused
damage
to
our
home
and
you've
often
heard
the
expression
I
don't
want
something
done
in
my
own
backyard.
Well,
that
applies
to.
G
G
G
G
Don't
need
property
between
my
property
and
the
b2,
and
the
r3
is
Marianne's
property
and
mrs.
hoofers
property.
So
if
you're
talking
about
spot
zoning,
maybe
their
spot
zoned
and
the
others
other
zoning
but
complies
there.
We
go
go
east
of
the
motel
you're
going
to
find
nothing
but
B
2,
B,
3
developments,
the
development
of
us
30
us,
50
and
32
has
changed
the
dynamics
in
my
property
and
make
it
much
more
attractive
for
multiple
residents
or
crews,
commercial
resident
commercial
use.
You
can
see
in
the
photo
that
my
prot
mind.
G
The
expanded
wider
with
curbs
and
gutters
without
having
to
enquire
additional
right
away
the
impact
of
the
project
on
South,
Blackburn
development
or
not
South
Blackburn
Road
needs
attention.
I'm
going
to
show
you
that
one
more
photograph
of
South
Blackburn
row,
it's
only
14
feet
wide
at
its
best,
and
it
has
no
berm
and
this
ragged
shoulder
I
I.
G
Finally,
and
the
I
as
I
understand,
it's
the
unadopted
comprehensive
plan
for
us
and
50
and
32
corridor
is
an
area
that
has
been
designated
as
an
industrial
corridor.
However,
an
infrastructure
would
have
to
be
established
to
for
that
to
happen,
but
in
my
case
the
water
sewer
gas
and
electric
already
at
the
property
line.
In
summary,
I'd
like
to
say
I'm
in
favor
of
responsible
development,
I
have
a
personal
interest
that
the
project
will
be
in
addition
to
the
neighborhood
or
proposed.
Our
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
G
A
G
G
C
E
G
Homes,
but
the
fact
is
that
every
time
I've
had
a
conversation
with
a
potential
developer,
r1
is
the
brick
wall.
Apparently
it's
not
a
big
enough
site
that
the
time
you
put
in
the
streets
and
the
gutters
you
can't
get
enough
lots
out
of
it
to
make,
make
it
feasible.
That's
my
understanding.
I've
had
it
listed
for
four
years.
My
dad
my
dad
I
found
I
wish
I'd
saved
this
for
Mary
Ann
I
found
about
a
month
ago.
G
C
C
E
E
D
To
the
wrong:
well,
maybe
I
they
are
three
in
my
body-
does
allow
the
b1
type
activities
that
it
can
be
graded
by
the
Zoning
Board
as
I
recall,
because
it's
says
right
in
the
code
that
permitted
not
under
permitted
uses
but
especially
condition
permitted
uses.
Are
those
businesses
allowed
in
a
be
war,
and
so
the
Zoning
Board
can
just
grant
and
they
have
justification
to,
whereas
so
that
could
be
in
as
you
do,
a
combination,
residential
and
sunlight
commercial,
whereas
if
it's
b3
you
have
to
have
business
or
that's
problem.
D
We've
had
at
the
end
of
court
Street
with
those
three
abilities
that
Cornwell
felt
he
was
required
to
have
business
on
the
first
floor
and
they
went
vacant
for
what
ten
twelve
years.
You
know
and
then
finally,
through
counsel
and
everything
else,
we've
rented
it
for
the
back
two
buildings
over
okay.
G
F
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
apologize
to
mr.
Weber
and
mr.
Pearson
about
my
comments
about
the
mapping.
My
thought
was
that
it's
not
consistent
with
what
I've
been
paying
taxes
on
for
several
years
and
if
that's
the
case,
then
perhaps
I
don't
own
that
land.
Then
someone
owes
me
money,
but
what
I
meant
was
if
a
developer
were
to
look
at
that
mapping
GIS
mapping,
it
is
surrounded
right
now
on
the
GIS
system
by
mr.
Weber's
property,
and
that
would
mean
that
he
condones
anything
that
wants
to
go
in
there.
F
Whereas
if
you
have
a
different
property
owner
like
me,
who
owns
the
corner
of
that
property,
2
acres,
it
would
concern
me
what
goes
in
and
I.
You
know
I'm
sure
that
something
will
be
ok,
but
mr.
Weber
also
said
that
he
thought
what
goes
in
would
be
good
for
the
neighborhood
I'm,
not
exactly
quoting
what
you
said,
but
I
have
no
earthly
idea.
What
could
go
in
I
mean
my
understanding
of
b3
could
be
anything.
It
could
be
a
lumber
yard.
F
It
could
be
anything
and
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
exactly
be
good
for
the
neighborhood.
That
was
one
comment
I
just
wanted
to
make,
but
the
blasting
issues.
Yes,
there
was
excessive
blasting
from
the
highway,
although
they
don't
believe
that
there
was
excessive
blasting,
but
many
people
I
think
there
were
15
families
who
suffered
extensive
damage
from
that
blasting
and
no
one
was
reimbursed
with
the
exception
of
maybe
one
family
in
mix
County,
so
that
is
pretty
bad
and
we're
all
afraid
of
more
blasting
occurring.
Mr.
F
Weber
pointed
out
that
the
Kimes
convalescent
home
sign
is
bordering
route:
52
black
Berner.
Oh
that's,
north
blackburn
road,
not
south
blackburn
road.
We've
got
a
four-lane
highway
between
us
and
the
other
side
of
the
road.
So
that
would
make
a
difference
to
about
the
zoning
on
that
side
of
the
street.
It
doesn't
matter
that
much
to
the
property
owners
on
our
side
of
the
street,
which
is
solidly
our
one
at
the
moment.
F
So
I
don't
think
I
have
any
other
questions
right
now,
but
I
thank
you
all
for
listening
and
I
just
wanted
to
apologize,
and
you
know
to
mister
whoever
and
mr.
pearson,
it's
not
their
fault
that
the
GIS
mapping
system
is
wrong.
I
know,
but
I
just
think
that
that's
misleading
and
I
would
like
to
see
these
maps
corrected.
You
know,
especially
so
that
you
all
have
something
correct
to
look
at
whatever
it
might
be.
Thank
you.
E
B
The
mayor
mentioned
that
r3
zoning
would
allow
some
types
of
commercial
use
if
granted
a
conditional
use
permit
from
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
So,
for
example,
are
three
zones
conditionally
permitted
uses,
which
are
those
granted
by
the
Zoning?
Board
can
be
Motel
hotel
or
Bed,
and
Breakfasts
residential
health
care
facility
clinic
private
club
or
lodge
or
meeting
place
funeral
home
or
any
convenience
business
or
service
establishment,
providing
commodities
or
services
primarily
for
the
residents
of
the
neighborhood.
So
those
are
the
and
fraternities
and
sororities.
Also.
E
B
A
B
C
B
In
order
to
do
these
types
of
amendments,
the
Commission
has
the
option
of
holding
a
public
hearing
or
not.
We
thought
it
was
in
the
best
interest
to
have
one
that
extends
the
response
period
or
the
reaction
period
from
60
days
to
90
days
from
data
submit
all
of
the
application.
So,
within
90
days
of
when
I
first
received
the
application,
the
Planning
Commission
may
recommend
the
City
Council
that
it
the
proposal
be
granted
as
requested.
B
Believe
one
of
the
options
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
and
I
think
is
like
we're
talking
about
right
here
instead
of
b3,
possibly
our
three
might
be
more
palatable,
of
course,
in
a
discussion
with
the
applicant.
You
know
that
would
be
appropriate
to
to
see
if
that
was
agreeable
to
them,
but
I
think
you
know
this.
This
has
great
flexibility
for
the
Planning
Commission.
They
can
either
take
it
as
proposed,
amend
it
a
little
bit
or
completely
deny
it.
You
have
three
options.
B
B
C
B
C
B
G
C
They're
still,
there
were
people
who
are
at
the
public
hearing
who
aren't
here
today
and
people
who
would
presumably
be
notified.
If
we're
going
to
have
another
public
hearing,
then
I
think
I
think
there
are
two
advantages
to
having
another
published
ring.
One
is
to
give
everybody
their
chance
to
speak
to
a
different
question
and,
secondly,
to
have
a
chance
to
explain
what
the
significance
of
a
different
zone
isn't,
and
so
they
can
see
whether
they
still
have
the
same
objections
to
the
things
that
would
be
permitted
in
r3.
C
And
so
on,
and
it
still
gives
a
good
deal
of
flexibility
there,
but
it
doesn't
violate
the
the
essentially
residential
nature
of
that
of
that
area
as
much
and
we
we
talked
about
that
on
the
estate
street
in
that
area
and
we'd
also
talked
about
it
some
time
ago,
in
a
case
on
West
Union,
where
there
was
a
request
to
Zona
piece
of
property
business
simply
because
it
would
bring
more
up
sale,
which
really
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
planning.
That's
this.
No
so
I,
I,
guess
I
would
move
that.
C
A
A
B
E
B
C
B
E
G
A
C
B
Correct
you
bring
more
detail,
I
guess
to
that
area
here
in
just
a
minute,
but
that
area
is
zoned.
R1
single-family
residential,
when
Kimes
proposed
that
sign
its
location
is
actually
on
state
property
and
city
right-of-way.
So
the
only
way
to
have
any
kind
of
a
sign
at
all
as
to
go
to
Athens
City
Council
and
ask
for
permission
for
revocable
license
in
this
particular
case,
for
a
sign
and
council
did
grant
permission
for
that
sign
to
be
placed.
Essentially,
that's
a
variance.
So
yes,
it's
not
that
it.
It
was
permitted
in
a
different
way.
C
E
B
C
B
B
A
A
A
A
H
E
H
They
couldn't
put
a
mural
leader,
but
murals
are
accepted.
Therefore
they
could,
with
the
permission
of
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council.
This
all
came
up
about
four
years
ago
approximately
when
the
mural
on
Stimson
Avenue
was
discussed,
and
it
was
at
that
time
that
the
mayor
came
up
with
the
idea
that
perhaps,
if
we
had
a
Municipal
Arts
Commission
that
the
Arts
Commission
could
make
that
kind
of
choice.
H
I
personally
should
have
caught
this
in
terms
of
the
sign
ordinance
a
long
time
ago,
but
really
until
quite
recently,
I
didn't
realize
that
the
code
still
said
that
it
should
be
approved
by
the
mayor
and
the
City
Council,
never
mentioning
the
the
Arts
Commission.
We
currently
have
a
mirror.
Mural,
that's
almost
finished,
and
it's
on
an
alleyway
is
that
public
property,
or
is
it
or
at
private
property?
H
It's
the
side
of
a
building,
that's
owned
by
someone
and
a
business
is
doing
the
mural
I
think
we
need
a
bit
more
investigation
on
this
whole
thing.
I
have
been
talking
to
Gary
hunter
about
it
and
part
of
what
he
said
is
no
you.
You
cannot
restrict
a
mural
on
private
property,
which
is
fine
by
me,
because
part
of
what
we
were
facing
is,
for
example,
we
have
three
of
the
quilt
squares
on
private
property.
H
Those
would
have
to
come
back
and
be
reproved
with
this
process,
but
they
are
in
private
property,
but
we
do
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
like
this.
Alleyway
is
that
private
or
public
property-
and
why
does
our
intention
here
and
how
can
we
make
the
sign
ordinance
reflect
what
the
intentions
are?
I
think
there
are
lots
of
things
in
the
side,
no
ordinance
that
that
could
be
looked
at
again,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
it.
B
H
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
here
and
I
do
know
that
a
couple
years
ago,
when
Gary
looked
into
the
political
sign
discussion,
that
it
was
ruled
that
a
private
residence
had
the
right
to
put
up
a
political
sign
whenever
they
wanted
to
for
as
long
as
they
wanted
to
that
those
laws
could
not
be
enforced
against
personal
property
owners.
Is
that
the
same
with
the
business
operator?
I,
don't
know
I
I
just
think
we
have
a
lot
more
questions.
H
We
do
have
an
ordinance,
that's
gone
through
two
readings
which
basically
just
takes
out
the
mayor
and
puts
in
the
Arts
Commission.
We
can
table
that
at
the
next
meeting
and
just
let
it
sit
there
until
we
figure
all
this
out
and
I
understand.
We
need
a
public
hearing
as
well.
So
it's
you
know
lots
of
steps
before
it's
resolved.
Meanwhile,
the
mural
that's
being
painted.
H
That
looks
at
each
case,
as
it
comes
through
one
representative,
on
that
ad
hoc
committee
would
be
from
the
Neighborhood
Association
of
the
impacted,
neighborhood
and
one
would
be
a
member
of
the
Arts
Commission
itself,
and
then
they
would
have
two
additional
people
who
are
expert
in
that
area
and
they
have
an
application.
That's
very
similar
to
what
you
would
forward.
A
A
H
H
A
D
H
C
E
H
Right
it
could
be,
and
certainly
the
Arts
Commission
would
be
willing
to
further
research
that
part
of
it.
Like
Joanne
said
there
must
be
other
ordinances
involving
murals
in
other
cities,
and
we
would
be
happy
to
do
that.
Part
of
it
mean
well
Gary's.
Looking
at
the
you
know
from
the
strictly
legal
standpoint,
but
we
do
have
work
to
do.
C
H
C
H
H
G
E
B
To
address
the
question
of
the
alley,
there's
only
one
public
alley
in
the
Uptown
area:
I
call
it
the
Lucky's
alley
it's
next
to
Lucky's
and
then
that
alley
goes
from
court
to
Congress
and
only
the
first
section
from
court.
Street
toward
Congress
is
actually
public
every
other
alley.
Uptown
is
private.
A
B
Another
thing
too,
I
think
it's
hard
really
to
this
is
an
exception
from
the
sign
ordinance
why
it
would
be
included
as
an
exception
and
then
have
some
huge
regulation.
Some
of
the
other
exceptions,
are
integral
parts
of
vending
machines,
cornerstones
on
buildings,
street
signs,
crisp
holiday,
decorations,
excuse
me
and
then
the
good
old
special
sign
is
determined,
appropriate
and
reasonable
by
the
Zoning
Administrator.
C
B
One
thing
a
real
easy
way
may
be
to
handle
it
sensitive,
since
it
is
an
exception,
it's
not
covered
by
the
code.
It's
nothing
that
the
code
really
talks
about,
except
in
this
one
context.
It
appears
now
that's
going
to
be
something
approved
by
the
Arts
Commission.
You
could
simply
the
word
public,
murals
or
similar
artwork,
if
approved
by
the
Arts
Commission.
Then
you
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
public
I
mean
private
murals,
commissioned
by
the
Arts,
Commission
or
I.
C
B
B
B
B
A
D
A
A
D
E
A
D
Well,
there's
two
one
speak:
what
was
it
well,
the
council's
brought
it
back
up
and
it
was
actively
discussing.
It
seemed
that
one
of
their
main
discussion
points
was
that
the
2d
allowed
75
feet.
That's
our
story.
They
don't
want
that
replicated
in
the
last
block
of
court.
Potentially
they
were
so
they
had
Steve
Code
office.
Do
let's
look
at
court
Street
and
see
how
many
or
four
and
fine
whatever
stories?
How
many
would
this
there's
two
buildings
on
north
court?
That
are
five
stories
now
and.
E
D
D
D
A
B
Think
part
of
the
concern
about
identifying
those
buildings
that
would
be
created
as
legally
non-conforming
if
that
hai
through
striction
was
dropped
down,
was
an
issue
not
only
in
the
proposed
area
but
in
the
existing
area,
so
it
would
affect
those
taller
buildings
in
the
existing
v2g
zone.
Also,
there
is
a
limitation
in
the
zoning
code
when
you
have
damage
to
a
property
greater
than
65
percent
of
the
auditors,
value,
which
is
a
very
low
number
compared
to
a
market
value
or
a
true
value
or
a
previous
sale.
B
Your
you
then
have
to
conform
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
concern
a
lot
of
cities.
If
it's
damage
created,
not
you
know
an
act
of
God
or
a
fire,
or
something
like
that.
You
can
restore
your
building
100%
back
to
its
nonconformity
and
in
Athens
you
can't
it's
limited
to
sixty-five
percent,
so
I
think
that's
helped
with
some
of
the
concern
about
identifying
those
properties
that
would
become
non-conforming
either.
B
Interests
which
are
associated
to
some
things
that,
for
example,
Ohio
University,
does,
if
you
have
a
higher,
you
know,
there's
a
public
purpose
to
what
it
is
that
you're
doing
it's,
not
a
private
interest.
It's
a
public
endeavor!
You
just
have
to
do
your
best
to
comply.
So
I
guess.
Yes,
the
pregnant
Raj
is
like
Bromley
Hall.
Now
it's
too
tall
about.
I
Would
think
you'd
have
to
demonstrate
that
it's
a
particularly
unique
public
purpose
and
parking
garage
wouldn't
be
particularly
unique
only
to
a
public
purpose
that
would
be
a
book
capable
of
being
a
public
and
in
private
buildings.
So
it
wasn't
specially
apply,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
to
when
you're
talking
about
limiting
the
height
of
the
buildings
in
the
downtown
and
look
at
what
the
consequential
damages
may
or
may
not
be
so.
B
B
You
know,
there's
really
not
a
there's,
not
a
fire
safety
concern.
Any
new
construction
would
be
plans
approved
by
the
State
Department
of
construction
compliance
generally.
They
require
more
fire
resistant
type
materials
and
construction
sprinkler
systems
alarm
system.
So
if
it's
an
idea
about
fire
I,
don't
I
don't
see
the
connection
myself,
but
you
know
people
can
be.
Anybody
could
have
built
a
six
story
building
and
add-ins
in
the
downtown
district
for
the
last
35
years,
37
years.
C
I
Meeting,
how
old
is
the
a
news
building
or
whatever
five.
B
C
C
E
B
A
A
B
Reviewing
the
records
from
the
last
time
and
I
was
about
ninety
four.
The
Planning
Commission
recommended
this
councils
subcommittee
had
at
that
time
by
Howard
Stephens
had
raised
the
concern
about
building
heights,
and
the
Planning
Commission
had
simply
sent
a
statement
back
to
him
that,
whatever
the
height
is
at
a
B
to
D,
that's
what
it'll
be
in
the
new
zone
to
there
was
never
a
discussion
about
bringing
it
down.
It
was
just.
B
B
A
B
Provided
that
listening
of
apartment
complexes,
I
provided
to
I'm
to
the
Planning
Commission,
you
wanted
me
to
add
on
something
at
the
bottom
list.
You
want
me
to
and
I
added
whichever
one
it
was
I.
Don't
know
if
it
was
adds.
Add
the
summit
of
coats
run.
Campus
said
no
was
add.
University
courtyard
I
didn't
have
University
courtyard
yeah.
C
A
But
I
think
eight
North
Court
has
a
lot
of
beds.
Okay
in
Athens
apartments
in
West,
View
and
those
Phoenix
has
a
lot
anyway.
I
think
I
was
reading
the
Athens
news
today,
but
the
university
wants
to
do
and
make
sure
it's
ignored
the
fact
that
they
were
sort
of
taking
over
the
whole
city
there,
but
moving
out
into
the
streets
but
I
sort
of
think
they
should
change
their
plan
and
start
revising
how
they're
growing,
but
they
don't
listen
to
me
about
it.
So
we
have
any
announcements
or
other
business.
Yes,
sir
I
would.
B
Like
to
add
that
I
provided
that
list
of
large
apartment
complexes
to
city
council
and
their
possible
consideration
of
amending
the
tenant
landlord
ordinance
to
because
there's
been
some
discussion
about
certain
large
complexes
should
have
been
exempted
and
I
should
have
realized
that
they
were
exempted.
But
you
can
see
by
that
list
that
there
are
many
different
criteria
that
could
be
used
to
determine
what
is
a
large
complex.
So.
E
B
B
Yet
proposed
another
apartment
complex,
there
was
a
proposal
with
copper.
Beech
went
in
that
there'd
be
this
road
connecting
to
Kimes
that
would
go
up
adjacent
to
his
property,
go
back
to
copper
beech
and
he
had
a
proposal
for
an
apartment
complex
back
there.
Then
he
came
in
and
amended
the
plat
of
blackburn
woods
to
include
that
acreage
into
the
subdivision
that
he
had
accrued.
E
B
I
I
E
A
B
Right
I
do
I
have
received
also
a
request
for
final
approval
for
Herald
Square.
We
have
the
engineering
data
back
for
water
and
sewer
building
location
lot
sizes
there'll
be
a
laundry
list
of
variances
that
will
accompany
that
and
I
suppose
I
should
offer
the
developers
the
opportunity
to
have
that
postponed
until
there
are
more
members
available.
All.
B
B
B
B
Well,
I
had
that
question
raised
by
Councilman,
while
is
it
a
subdivision
or
Planned
Unit
development?
Currently
it's
one
big
piece
of
property
and
they're,
proposing
I
think
six
or
seven
buildings
on
it,
but
also
to
subdivide
it.
So
it's
something
in
between
a
PUD
and
a
subdivision:
I'm
not
really
well.
B
C
B
D
Almost
considered
it,
a
PUD
that
was
a
PUD
could
be
in
any
zone,
it's
a
layer
over
top
of
it.
So
if
they're
saying
they
want
individual
lots
and
it's
not
being
a
PUD,
then
you
got
a
rezoning
my
mind,
so
we
can't
grant
a
variance
to
the
zoning
code
other
than
a
PUD
and
that's
not
really
a
variance.
It's
a
zonie.
D
B
D
That
it
was
in
our
three
zone
and
so
on.
Multi-Year
buildings
were
acceptable
as
permitted
uses,
and
then
they
went
into
subdivided
them
down
into
any
one
that
we
did
variances.
But
here
was
no
no
I'm.
Just
saying
think
about
that's
the
first
thing
that
came
into
my
mind
and
that
could
be
the
wrong
thought
as
well
as
the
right
thought,
maybe
I'll
think
about
it.
B
E
A
D
B
B
B
B
E
C
B
And
I
know
the
neighborhood
associations
seem
to
be
very
interested
in
people
and
call
the
office
quite
frequently
about
that.
So
I
have
issued
a
zoning
certificate.
You
gotta
realize
this
is
just
a
very
basic
there's,
a
lot
of
detail
you
got
to
have
before
you
start
construction,
but
this
basically
says
that
the
use
that
they're
proposing
is
permitted.
It
appears
that
the
buildings
are
not
too
high.
They're,
not
too
close
to
the
property
lines.
There's
enough
parking,
some
of
the
parking
is
proposed
to
be
on
the
Bob's
lot.
Deed.
Restricted
is
required
by
code.