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A
B
Oh
good
afternoon,
this
is
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
Assam
City
Planning
Commission
for
September
7th,
and
it
is
237.
We
have
scheduled
before
a
regular
meeting
public
hearing.
We
do
not
have
to
have
a
forum
for
a
public
hearing.
However,
we
have
everybody
on
the
Commission.
As
present,
we
do
take
sworn
or
affirmed
statement.
So,
if
you
plan
to
say
anything
and
either
the
public
hearing
or
the
meeting
afterwards,
you
please
stand
raise
your
hand.
Do
you
swear
or
affirm
that
what
you
will
say
is
the
truth.
B
C
D
Planned
Unit
development
regulations
say
that
there
has
to
be
a
notice
sent
out
to
the
public
that
documents
are
available
for
inspection
prior
to
any
preliminary
consideration
for
Planned
Unit
development.
There's
an
additional
public
hearing,
that's
required
where
the
regulations
are
written.
The
title
of
the
bus
says
hearing,
but
the
the
text
in
the
first
part
prior
to
preliminary
review,
says
that
documents
are
available
for
public
inspection,
so
the
text
doesn't
actually
read.
This
should
be
a
public
here.
B
D
B
B
D
D
D
They
had
originally
Edwards
communities
that
originally
provided
a
pack
of
information
that
you
received
at
the
pre-application
meeting
and
there
was
not
much
additional
information
required
in
order
to
mean
the
preliminary
application
requirements.
They
provided
me
with
a
substitute
document
which
I
also
forwarded
to
you.
So
you
have
you,
have
the
free
app
document
and
you
have
the
you:
have
the
preliminary
duck.
B
D
Yeah
there's
a
potential
there
they've
submitted
everything
and
all
the
advertisements
been
done.
It's
so
they
could
potentially
have
preliminary
approval.
Today,
if
that's
your
pleasure,
where
you
may
have
some
additional
questions,
more
information
that
you'd
like
for
them
to
provide
before
did
that
possibly
get
preliminary
approval,
but.
D
D
And
we
have
assigned
it
even
though
it's
we're
considered
essentially
the
same
piece
of
property.
We
do
have
two
different
case
numbers
right
now.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
should
probably
bring
to
your
attention
right
now
that
you'll
soon
be
receiving
a
letter
from
mr.
daddy
asking
for
an
extension
at
time
of
his
preliminary
approval
for
campus
edge.
B
D
E
C
F
The
application
on
file
consistent
and
basically
the
same
property.
He
said
yes,
there
could
you
know,
since
the
one
has
preliminary
approval
already
you
know
this
is
the
preferred
one
in
case
that
one
doesn't
go.
They
wanted
me
able
to
turn
back
to
the
other
one
already
that's
what
the
developer
wants,
but.
C
B
Far
as
I'm
concerned,
somebody
better
pick
the
one
they
want,
because
I'm
not
gonna
mess
with
that
both
of
them
we've
had
that
one
for
so
long
and
they
asked
for
a
continuance.
Continuance
and
I
voted
no
on
it.
The
first
time
I
vote
no
and
the
second
third.
Fourth
fifth
6090
bring
us
forward
because
they
didn't
like
it
then
and
I,
don't
like
it
now.
So
somebody
better
pick
what
about
I'm,
not
gonna,
terrible,
so
I.
E
Don't
if
we
don't
give
them
an
extension
on
the
preliminary,
then
we
don't
get
the
DS
right.
You
won't
get
the
final.
D
B
D
B
B
B
B
E
D
B
B
As
a
point
of
law
about
an
agreement
with
somebody
who
is
owned
as
dead,
but
it
says
nothing
about
his
estate
or
anything
in
here.
This
is
Mike.
This
is
what
I'm
asking
I
mean
I
mr.
dowdy
could
pass
it
on
forever
if
he
wanted
to
to
the
rest
of
them,
but
if,
in
fact
it
it
isn't
in
the
estate
or
it
didn't
go
through
this
state
or
you
know,
if
it's
it
needs
to
be
pointed
out
that
this
man
is
dead
and
some
of
the
other
action
had
to
be
taken
for
mr.
D
B
But
I
think
it
should
surely
here's
what
I'm
saying
then
it
doesn't
show
in
here
and
and
I
know
that
mr.
daddy's
had
a
lot
of
trouble
with
this
thing
and
the
whole
thing
and
I
know
he
said
some
other
problems
and
I
would
like
to
see
it
I
mean
for
them.
The
other
people
who
want
to
do
this
is
let's
make
sure
that
all
the
documents
are
in
here
and
they're.
B
D
B
Did
he
carry
through
with
it?
This
is
my
question:
I'm
not
trying
I'm,
not
accusing
anybody
of
everything
I'm
just
saying
that
there
have
been
some
problems
and
and
I
think
they
should
be,
make
sure
that
they
don't
exist
before
we
go
ahead
and
somebody
starts
building
something
and
somebody
else
comes
up
and
says,
say:
guess
what
my.
D
E
B
C
B
H
Hello,
my
name
is
Rick
Kirk
I'm
with
Edwards
communities
from
Columbus
with
me
today
is
Ryan
Pearson
from
the
edge
group
in
Columbus.
They
are
the
land
planners
on
our
proposed
project.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
our
our
preliminary
project
plan.
Today.
I
would
like
to
start
briefly
with
a
little
introduction
of
our
company
and
what
we've
done.
H
Edwards
companies
and
communities
over
the
past
many
years
has
developed,
built
owned
and
managed
over
25,000
residential
units
they've
been
in
the
student
housing
business
for
the
past
five
years
and
have
built
2,000
beds
in
Ohio,
Kentucky
and
Michigan,
and
have
had
an
interest
here
in
Athens
for
some
several
months
and
have
in
cooperation
with
mr.
dowdy
agreed
to
pursue
the
development
of
this
project.
H
H
Physically
that
our
could
use
some
help
and
we
hope
that
you'll,
like
our
presentation,
all
my
Mike
over
here,
a
little
bit
to
the
side.
This
is
a
some
examples
of
some
properties
that
we've
developed
in
the
quality
that
we'd
like
to
pursue
here
in
Athens.
We,
those
are
projects
that
we
built
in
Columbus
ones
in
Toledo,
and
they
represent
some
of
the
elements
that
we
would
like
to
see
here.
This
is
a
project
that
has
a
entry
feature
and
a
tower
element
that
is
in
North
:
bus.
We
call
it
Central
Park.
H
We
like
the
identification
feature
that
we
have
there
and
could
see
that
that
concept
would
work
well
here.
The
other
photos
here
are
photos
that
show
a
traditional
development
with
Georgian
style
exteriors
and
is
part
of
a
community
that
we
have
in
Columbus.
We
have
believed
that
we
in
courtyard
developments-
and
this
is
a
photograph
of
a
project
that
we
have,
that
shows
how
we
landscape
and
design
our
courtyards.
H
These
are
some
students
specific
floor
plans
that
will
be
similar
to
what
we
have
proposed
here.
This
is
a
project
that
was
built
in
Michigan
that
has
a
courtyard
that
has
a
25-foot
change
in
grade
from
one
size
of
the
side
of
the
site
to
another,
which
is
pertinent
to
the
project
that
we
have
here
because
of
the
grades
entry
elements
that
we
used
up
there
that
are
again
themed
attic
of
some
of
the
designs
that
we
would
try
to
observe
here
in
your
community.
H
This
is
an
aerial
view
of
Richland
Avenue
and
the
site
area.
Our
32,
nearly
33,
acre
site
is
firmly
I
refer
to
it
as
the
Danes
site.
One
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
point
out
about
the
location
here
is
that
it
from
a
planning
standpoint.
It
is
within
the
roadway
system
that
that
you
have.
You
have
multifamily
that
exists
in
within
this
Road
wake
corridor.
You
also
have
your
Richland
Avenue
corridor,
which
has
a
commercial
frontage
and,
of
course,
that's
part
of
the
arterial
that
leads
right
into
your
University.
H
This
is
a
closer
view
that
shows
the
existing
site
conditions
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
first
recognized
is
that
the
the
site
has
been
logged
and
the
vegetation
has
been
substantially
removed.
You
can
see
the
Greenbrier
neighborhood
and
the
the
existing
green
trees
and
the
lack
thereof
on
the
on
the
property
as
it
exists.
H
These
are
some
photographs
of
of
the
existing
conditions.
One
of
the
things
that
features
that
we
would
like
to
recognize
and
enhance
is
the
existing
streams
we
have
coach
wrong
along
along
Richland.
Avenue
here
are
some
photographs
of
of
the
area.
We
think
that
that
this
is
an
opportunity
to
take
one
of
your
features
that
you
have
here
and
enhance
it
and
bring
it
into
and
presented
as
more
publicly
than
it
is
now.
H
These
are
some
examples
of
how
we
might
pull
out
that
concept.
Most
of
these
are
projects
that
we
have
built.
This
is
a
project
in
Columbus
where
we
took
a
existing
stream
and
revitalized
it
in
conjunction
with
the
City
of
Columbus,
donated
the
land
to
the
city
Columbus
as
parkland,
and
it
exists
now
in
a
state
that,
where
we
maintain
it,
but
we
have
what
I'll
call
a
visual
amenity
on
a
high-traffic
area,
Hayden
Run.
We
also
used
this
corner
of
our
entrance
and
Hayden
run
to
as
a
site
identification.
H
We
named
the
project
and
had
a
had
a
theme
of
the
farms
which
is
a
horse
farm
that
the
former
owners
were
operated
there.
This
property
is
a
horse,
barn,
here's
some
other
other
areas
that
we
had
existing
stream
beds
that
we
brought
in
to
to
use
not
only
for
storm
water
and
civil
engineering
purposes,
but
also
again,
as
the
visual
of
the
visual
amenity
that
I
refer
to.
H
We
have
added
some
art
features
that
we
have
fun
with,
and
but
it
also
helps
to
really
identify
that
that
our
projects
are
a
we
think,
a
little
different
and
we
hope
blend
into
the
community
in
a
way
that
that
is
good
for
everyone.
These
are
some
themes
that
I
have,
since
we
have
some
grade
and
topographic
issues
on
the
project.
We
have
some
concepts
that
we
would
like
to
pursue
here.
H
This
is
our
site
plan.
We
have
frontage
along
Richland
Avenue
and
our
main
entrance
and
primary
entrance
will
be
the
Richland
Avenue
entrance.
We
plan
to
open
up
that
corridor
so
that,
when
you
are
all
along
the
Richland
Avenue
that
you
can
look
up
into
the
site
and
see
something
that
will
be
appealing
to
to
you
and
to
those
who
drive
by
I'm,
going
to
go
to
my
notes
here,
get
a
little
more
academic
and
read
through
some
of
the
specifics
that
we
have.
H
The
the
this
site
is
is
in
the
southwestern
neighborhood
and
somewhat
contained
by
the
network
of
highways
that
I
already
discussed.
The
site
is
currently
zoned,
B,
3
and
R
3,
which
allows
for
a
much
higher
density
than
we
have,
but
because
we
have
multiple
buildings,
we
are
pursuing
the
PUD
process.
We
also
think
that
this
process
will
allow
us
to
present
a
project
that
will
be
better
for
all
of
us.
H
Richland
Avenue
does
provide
access
for
site
and
traffic
generated
this
site
design
allows
for
the
protection
of
streams
and
the
riparian
corridors.
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
mention
specifically,
is
that
we
have
established
a
50-foot
buffer
along
coach
run
and
also
in
the
back
here
too,
as
a
no
build
zone.
The
grading
that
we
that
we
do
propose
begins
outside
of
that
buffer.
H
We
want
to
do
our
best
to
maintain
the
levels
of
slope
stability
and
not
increase
the
potential
for
slope
failure.
This
is
an
important
issue
here
in
your
community.
The
existing
soil
conditions
are,
as
generically
said,
slip
prone
in
order
to
eliminate
that
we
would
propose
some
cut
areas
and
also
to
stabilize
the
soils.
We
do
minimize
the
use
of
retaining
walls
which
was
extensively
presented
in
the
past,
and
we
have
a
virtually
eliminated
that
our
entrance
up
into
the
project.
H
Along
here
does
use
the
natural
curvature
of
the
hill
for
driveway
access
the
current
conditions.
As
I'd
said,
the
the
site
has
been
clear-cut.
Most
of
the
south
of
salvos
salvageable
trees
are
along
the
property
boundaries
and
in
the
streams
and
the
special
attention
that
I
mentioned,
to
keep
the
design
to
limit
the
construction
outside
of
the
riparian
corridors.
H
When
the
site
is
developed,
we
will
have
provide
vegetated
slopes,
storm
water,
detention
and
filtration
basins
or
ponds
to
control
erosion,
which
is
exists.
Now
there
is
some
small
debris
and
coach
run,
which
will
be
clean
and
hauled
up,
and
we
will
maximize
the
bank
protection.
The
impact
along
for
a
long
Richland
Avenue
allows
us
this
project
to
open
up
the
public
view,
which
is
currently
overgrown.
H
We
will
provide
an
architectural
icon,
visible
from
Richland
Avenue
that
complements
the
existing
ridges
development.
We
hope
to
set
a
benchmark
for
quality
in
terms
of
planning
and
architectural
design
with
this
development
we'll
solve
environmental
concerns
with
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
EPA.
This
will
require
us
to
submit
for
permits
necessary
for
storm
water
detention.
Erosion
control
will
mend
the
soils
to
bend
to
bear
development
for
the
longevity
of
the
project
and
make
it
better
for
off-site
neighbors
and
as
well.
H
H
H
In
short,
we
have
project
amenities
that
we
are
within
the
seven
minutes
of
walk
the
lower
campus.
We
will
have
public
some
sort
of
public
or
shuttle
service
will
provide
to
our
residents.
We
have
on-site
management,
individual
leases,
utility
packages,
parking
facilities.
Our
community
facility
will
have
a
fitness
center
theater
social
room,
cyber
cafe,
grills
pool
sand,
volleyball
basketball,
so
that
the
residents
who
live
here
will
be
able
to
live
in
this
community
interact
with
your
community,
but
the
services
will
be
provided
by
us.
H
The
units
will
be
fully
furnished
living
room,
dining
room,
bedroom
kitchens
with
microwaves
all
of
the
conveniences
that
we
have
today
and
are
custom
to
entry
locks
into
all
bedrooms.
Smoke
detectors
that
I
mentioned
panic,
alarms,
sprinkler
system
that
is
monitored
by
us,
but
is
tied
into
their
emergency
services
here
in
town
site
lighting
and
landscaping.
G
The
only
thing
we
might
have
is
you
didn't
go
over
any
of
the
density
or
units.
Remember
that's
the
details
on
that
right
now.
Current
zoning
on
the
properties
are
three
and
really
all
were
doing.
Is
we're
coming
through
the
PUD
to
try
to
get
more
than
one
building
for
a
lot
and
during
that
process
we're
asking
for
from
the
slight
variance
on
the
parking
ratio
so
that
it's
a
point,
95
apartment
spaces
per
bed
or
per
person
instead
of
the
one
per
person,
so
I
think
we're
still
gonna
have
ample
parking.
G
G
The
other
thing
that
we're
asking
for
is
currently
the
small
piece
out
by
Richland
Avenue
is
son
v3
along
the
the
lower
portion
of
the
r3
zoning,
whereas
it's
about
6.2
acres
I
mean
we're
asking
for
some
of
the
conditional
uses
of
the
r3
to
be
approved
as
accepted
uses,
which
is
the
hotel
I
think,
was
a
health
care,
healthcare
facilities,
clinics,
Klug's
convenience,
business
or
service
establishments,
they're
all
conditional
uses,
and
really
that's
just
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
market
that
a
little
bit.
We
don't
know
exactly.
G
H
I
might
mention
very
briefly
about
the
the
engineering
component.
We
have
had
several
meetings
with
staff
about
engineering
needs
of
the
site.
We
intend
to
extend
the
water
line
of
off
site
to
our
site,
which
would
enable
us
to
have
service,
of
course,
but
we
think
additionally,
that,
if
the
layout
is
approved,
would
allow
the
city
to
discontinue
the
use
of
two
booster
pump
stations
that
currently
have
to
maintain
and
pay
for
these
are
it's
always
good
to
have
those
kinds
of
maintenance
responsibilities
taken
off
your
back?
H
We
also
are
hoping
to
provide
a
sanitary
sewer
system
that
would
give
some
relief
to
the
potential
overflow
problems
that
exist
along
richland
Avenue,
which,
when
that
happens,
of
course,
creates
a
problem
for
you
folks,
because
sewage
can
go
into
the
existing
streams.
So
we
are
hoping
to
do
that.
The
stormwater
methods
that
we
have
of
retention
basins
will
allow
us
to
control
the
erosion
that
exists
on
the
site
and
all
of
those
things
we
think
will
be
something
that
would
would
be
good
for
for
everyone.
C
H
E
My
other
question
is
while
you're
putting
in
this
road,
it's
really
so
close
to
the
bike
path
that
goes
on
the
other
side
of
the
river.
Would
it
be
feasible
also
to
put
in
a
bike
path
that
would
parallel
the
road
so
that
people
could
use
their
bikes
and
go
down
to
it
when
they
haven't
even
get
over
to
them.
So.
E
A
H
Yes,
we
we
have
had
some
discussions
with
you,
folks
about
your
bigger
need,
along
Richland,
Avenue
and
and
really
up
to
campus,
and
we
think
that
we're
a
piece
of
your
larger
puzzle,
puzzle
here
and
our
intention
would
be
to
help
get.
You
started
along
establishing,
possibly
street
improvements
there
and
traffic
roadway
issues
that
may
have
an
hour
in
the
future.
So
we're
we're
aware
of
those
things,
and
we
would
intend
to
work
with
you
as
we
have
in
the
past
in
terms
of
really
get
you
getting.
You
go
in
that
direction.
Well,.
C
G
C
B
A
G
Normal
at
the
very
top
of
the
hill
that
gets
up
to
an
800
elevation.
This
building
right
here
is
at
a
777,
7,
7
5.
So
when
that
bridge
been
in
there
across
this
section,
there's
a
sudden,
90
contour
goes
across
and
these
buildings
are
still
sitting
up
at
about
that
765
770
elevation
somewhere
in
that
same
vicinity,
we're
not
impacting
any
of
this
piece
of
ground,
like
Rick,
said
the
50-foot
buffer,
we're
trying
to
make
that
more
of
an
undisturbed
construction
zone.
C
B
G
B
The
every
ghost
well
I
know,
but
every
time
we
have
one
of
these
things
and
I
asked
about
this
and
they'll
tell
me
across
the
way.
Well,
we're
not
gonna.
Take
much
of
that.
Often
mr.
Lance
Rick
took
me
and
showed
me
all
those
beautiful
hills
and
like
water,
and
you
shot
them
all
off
and
oh,
yes,
you
did,
and
so
I
get
concerned
about.
You
know.
Athens
is
supposed
to
be
famous
for
its
hills
and
then
every
time
is
fun.
We
put
something
in.
B
They
tell
me
that
they're
not
going
to
take
much
of
it
down,
but
when
it
gets
there,
it's
gone
and
they
cut
into
it.
So
this
is
this.
Is
this
bothers
me
with
about
these
things
and
then
the
other
thing
is
that
I
always
seems
to
me
that
that
buildings
are
brought
in
that
have
been
designed
for
flat
a
flat
area.
B
H
H
Have
driven
across
the
way-
and
we
understand
that
there
are
some
concerns
about
how
across
the
way
was
constructed
and
managed,
and
Ryan
and
I
had
a
lengthy
discussion
before
the
meeting
today
on
how
we
can
do
things
better.
We
would
firstly
stand
with
what
we
have
done
in
the
past,
and
several
of
you
have
been
up
to
see
some
of
the
things
we've
done.
We
you
think
we
do
a
good
job.
We
always
try
to
take
those
projects
that
we've
completed
and
learn
from
them
and
see.
If
we
can
improve
upon
them.
H
We
take
the
aesthetics
and
the
design
very
seriously.
We
think
we
take
it
more
seriously
than
most.
We
wouldn't
go
to
the
trouble
to
add
artwork
and
do
the
things
that
we
do
if
it
weren't
fun
and
part
of
building
a
quality
community.
We
think
that's
unique.
It's
certainly
unique
in
residential
development.
Well,.
B
C
B
You
come
in
and
you
design
the
building
for
for
multiple
areas
and
then
I
just
think
hillsides
and
Hills
should
have
design,
especially
for
them
and
not
use
something
you've
always
had
and
and
I
know.
I
questioned
the
number
of
people
up
there.
It
just
seemed
like
too
many
for
me,
but
that's
just
an
opinion
of
mine,
but
I
didn't
want
an
idea
about
that
chopping
off
the
hills,
because
I
think
you
consider.
G
G
Hill,
really
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
I
think
we're
fortunate
in
the
fact
that
we
have
a
fairly
broad
level
plant
tenant
running
through
this,
that
it's
not
going
to
feel
like
we're.
Taking
a
perfectly
molded
mound,
you
cut
the
top
off.
You
know
it's
it's!
This
guy
feels
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
it's
gonna
feel
like
exactly
like
I.
F
F
Things
Ryan
and
like
if
you
go
up
to
your
adjacent,
the
adjacent
property,
there's
a
very
chill
and
they're
parking
lots.
You
look
up
at
the
hillside.
Basically
that
you
have
were
part
of
that
is
carriage,
Hills
property.
That's
still
to
go
up,
so
are
we
gonna
create
something
that
looks
like
a
bowl
there?
Are
you
what's
your
I
guess?
What
giant
sea
we
maybe
visualize
better?
If
we
know
what
your
elevation
is
in
comparison
to
secured
to
the
adjacent
properties,
elevation
in
the
market
model
and.
G
G
Our
road
actually
hits
existing
contours
right
off
the
edge
of
the
road
10
to
20
feet
some
locations
that
gets
out
here
about
30
feet
to
keep
our
consistent
maximum
grades
that
we
can
get
off
off
the
road
same
with
the
back
side
of
this.
This
parking
lot
is
all
at
about
there's
a
5650
counter
that
runs
along
the
parking
lot
and
our
parking
lots
right
at
that
650.
So
I.
C
G
G
C
F
A
A
F
Could
give
me
some
kind
of
an
idea
of
just
your
I?
Don't
know
it's
a
guess,
because
it
all
depends
upon
who
you're
renting
I'm
gonna
tell
you're
in
that
particular
building.
But
in
looking
at
most
of
these
schemes,
there
were
eighty,
some
people
as
I
recall
maximum
occupancy,
how
some
of
the
buildings
of
other
largest
building.
G
F
H
G
G
H
What
I
was
trying
to
show
is
the
fact
that
those
kinds
of
cuts
which
sound
on
paper
as
extreme,
when
you
look
at
how
you
handle
them.
There
is
a
way
to
do
it
by
stepping
down
the
buildings
which
we
did
in
that
particular
project
in
a
way
that
softens
that
visually,
so
that
you
wouldn't
realize
that
you're
dealing
with
that
kind
of
grade
change
and
that's
what
we
think
we'll
do
here.
H
We
think
that
I
believe
that
you
have
an
existing
site
which
is
problematic
and
I
would
hope
that
what
we
can
do
will
help
to
soften
the
grades
and
make
it
feel
in
fact
natural.
It
will
be
developed,
but
we
hope
to
consider
and
have
sensitivity
to
existing
conditions,
yet
also
improve
some
of
the
problems.
I
C
H
We
have
no
I've
gotten
that
far,
although
I
mentioned
to
Ryan
today,
which
is
that
whatever
we
do
there
we'd
want
to
control
the
design
so
that
it
works
with
the
larger,
more
global
view
of
what
you're
gonna
see
along
Richland
Avenue
and
the
architectural
content
of
those
needs
to
complement
our
the
entire
development
and
that's
commonly
done
I,
don't
foresee
that
we
would
sell
that
off
and
let
XYZ
come
in
and
do
whatever
they
want.
I
think
it
will.
Yes.
G
G
B
A
E
A
C
B
D
I
believe
that
I
had
seen
a
copy
of
the
in
a
previous
application
for
campus
edge,
a
copy
of
the
land
lease
agreement
between
mr.
daddy
and
mr.
Dane,
so
I
I'll
get
that
to
I
called
over
the
office
and
asked
my
administrative
assistant
to
send
it
over.
She
did
send
a
letter
over
and
I
will
get
a
copy
of
that
lease
to
you
and
I
think
related
to
that
too.
I
might
as
well
bring
this
up
now.
I've
provided
each
of
you
with
a
breakdown,
a
comparison
chart
of
apartment
complexes
in
town.
D
C
D
I
have
the
maximum
occupancy
listed
the
number
of
buildings,
the
number
of
units
number
of
bedrooms,
number
of
parking
spaces,
the
parking
ratio,
the
total
site
area,
the
area
per
unit,
the
area
per
bedroom
in
the
area
per
person.
So
you
can
use
this
chart
to
compare
the
two
proposals
down
at
the
bottom
campus
edge
and
the
summit
and
compare
them
to
the
12
largest
apartment
complexes
in
town
I.
B
B
B
B
D
G
D
E
E
D
D
I
was
just
in
contact
with
mr.
Abdullah
about
an
hour
ago
and
he's
ill
and
not
able
to
attend,
but
what
he
did
do
was
fax
over
to
me,
an
additional
sheet
that
I
provided
you
where
he
actually
had
the
property
surveyed
already,
and
it
essentially
is
a
National
Survey
of
a
proposal
type
drawing
that
I
had
did
have
done,
which
was
the
second
page
of
the
packet
of
information,
so
mine
was
just
for
illustrative
purposes.
His
was
an
actual
survey
but
they're,
basically
the
same
the
same
thing
at
the
last
meeting.
D
It
was
requested
that,
rather
than
have
an
easement
for
access
across
mm-hmm,
the
street
property
to
the
property
that
may
be
at
the
rear
that
an
actual
surveyed
part
extend
out
to
the
street
first
Street
and
just
to
remind
you
to
this
on
first
Street
up
to
the
plains.
This
is
not
not
in
the
city
of
Athens.
What
I
did
then
also
was
I
just
revised
my
cover
sheets,
just
a
revision
of
the
one
that
I'd
presented
the
last
time.
D
There
are
some
additional
variances
needed,
rather
than
than
having
a
variance
for
an
easement
in
lieu
of
actual
public
road
frontage.
There
are
some
with
the
depth
ratio,
variances
that
are
necessary
now
and
also
the
residual
lot
area
for
the
lot
that'll
face
that
actually
end
up
facing
out
on
the
street.
That
was
necessary
also
because
adding
that
leg
to
the
rear
proposed
parcel
diminished
the
area
of
that
other
lot.
D
So
you
can
actually
split
Lots
off
of
easements
without
any
variances
in
the
county
and
Mayor
Abel
and
mr.
Connor.
She
G
and
myself
being
members
of
the
Regional
Planning
Commission,
see
that
quite
often
on
that
level,
the
city
actually
had
their
subdivision
regulations
that
same
provision
and
that
was
amended
and
removed
fairly
quickly,
because
we
realized
excuse
me
in
the
city
that
it's
somewhat
problematic
to
access,
especially
with
emergency
services
properties
that
may
be
accessed
only
by
a
gravel
road
or
some
drainage
area.
D
D
B
D
B
F
D
D
I
think
it's
nine
thousand
five
hundred
forty
something
you're
real
close,
but
the
kind
of
to
expound
on
that
on
that
observation,
the
table
essentially
the
table
of
ball
controls
and
the
subdivision
regulations,
because
it
does
function
in
the
city
and
within
three
miles.
It
has
these
considerations
to
try
to
basically
limit
density
with
basic
infrastructure.
So,
like
the
mayor
said,
if
you
don't
have
curb
and
gutter
that
lot
area
requirement
goes
way
up
in
the
plains.
D
C
B
E
C
C
D
The
comment
sheet
that
I
forwarded
to
you
with
a
new
set
of
friends
I,
basically
use
the
same
format.
It's
the
review
that
I
did
for
the
first
proposal,
and
this
is
not
an
exhaustive
I
mentioned.
This
is
not
an
exhaustive
review,
but
it
does
catch.
The
highlights
what
I
tried
to
do
also
was
illustrate
the
difference
between
the
previous
plan
and
this
current
plan.
For
example,
number
one.
D
B
B
B
B
C
D
E
G
C
G
B
With
these
things
outside
I
find
it
difficult
to
deal
with
the
things,
and
especially
that
place
it's
already
a
settlement,
if
it's
out
in
the
country
and
we're
just
looking
at.
But
when
you
go
into
a
community,
that's
settled
with
lots
of
houses
and
that
shopping
districts
I
feel
like
they
better
get
themselves
a
form
of
government
which
I
say
every
time.
F
B
F
B
C
F
Regional
mmm-hmm,
we
changed
what
was
it
here
a
couple
years
ago,
and
so
there
can
be
variances
required
that
versus
required
now
it
would
really
be
helpful.
Just
like
we
have
this
Steve
created
this
chart
apartment
dwelling
units
of
at
least
what
200
beds
or
so
around
there
wouldn't
help
to
know.
I
was,
what's
all
around
there
from
a
standpoint
of
density
and
types
of
structures.
F
F
That's
problematic,
so
some
idea,
if
we're
going
to
propose
this
kind
of
density,
is
this
won't
like
them
certain?
What
exists?
I
still
exist,
and
we
know
it
doesn't
meet
the
standard
that
the
current
Regional
Planning
Commission
is
adopted,
and
a
lot
of
this
issue
is
because
of
the
density.
Okay,
because
the.
F
Could
all
be
over
side
things?
All
those
things
would
change
if
it
was
less
dense.
You
might
not
change
all
of
the
backyard
setbacks.
Ancestors
you're,
throwing
you're
only
so
wide
you
gotta--you
50
feet
to
the
street.
It
creates
it,
but
you're,
probably
when
we
build
in
the
street,
was
24
feet
wide.
Yes,.
F
Epa
has
all
these
separation
rules
and
I'm
sure
with
károly
engineer,
don't
want
any
of
those
underneath
the
road
somebody
would
dig
up
and
then
causing
problems,
so
you've
intercepted
50
feet.
The.
C
F
I
wouldn't
want
to
come
because
every
time
we
had
to
repair
that
repair
the
road
to
buy
his
recommendation,
I
just
I
can
understand.
I,
just
I
was
thinking
the
reality
of.
What's
going
to
be
there
versus
the
front
set
back,
in
my
own
mind
is
if
you're
22
in
most
cases
where
30s
required
you
got
50
roughly
centering
the
road
and
you
put
side
walking
on
water,
both
sides.
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C
F
What
would
really
happen
and
fry
the
density
issue
is
the
one
that
concerns
me.
The
most
and
I
really
need
to
know
what
else
is
around
there
and
what
did
spat
is
I
know
it's
not
sown.
So
if
you've
got
trailers
right
next
to
you
and
maybe
tacked
in
real
tennis,
because
a
lot
of
trailers
are
only
wanted
back
to
me
what
14
feet
wide,
because.
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A
public
hearing,
then,
what's
our
time
as
we
have
to
look
at
the
timeline
because,
on
other
business
or
old
business
on
our
July
20th
meeting,
we
had
one
on
the
designation
for
the
amp
requires
a
poet
needs
to
be
scheduled.
Steve
Pearson
said
that
he
would
check
on
the
timeframe
as
pre
notification
process
and
that's
turned
up
in
the
August.
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B
J
J
Going
through
all
this
process
together
before
you
at
the
last
time,
I
was
before
you.
We
addressed
you
on
some
minor
flat
changes
and
is
my
understanding
that
was
all
approved,
and
you
asked
me
to
take
it
to
my
surveyor
and
get
it
in
the
proper
documents
so
that
it
can
be
signed
and
taken
to
the
engineer
and
County
Florida
and
all
that
stuff.
So
that's
the
plans
that
are
for
you
and
I
think
that
changes
from
what
we
had.
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D
My
understanding
of
what
happens
when
plants
are
recorded
is
that
there's.
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D
Far
hills
goes
back
up
in
the
road
just
stops,
and
there
are
two
wings
or
two
T's
or
two
stub
roads
take
off
because
he
had
an
idea
that
he
might
develop
each
of
those
Lots
for
those
acreages
in
the
future.
Sometime
now,
that's
never
happened,
but
those
two
little
pieces
that
still
go
off
on
the
side,
our
public
streets,
so
in.
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F
Still
I
didn't
know,
I
just
didn't
know
if
you
could
give
me
as
a
legal
question
to
me,
because
it's
a
planning.
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Think
this
we
don't
think,
there's
a
problem
but
we're
pointing
out
potential,
because
what
we're
the
next
steps
of
this
we've
already
done.
This
with
the
provision
that
you
have
to
do
to
serve
very
well
said
resubmit
with
the
new
plants.
Why?
The
thing
is
so
that
something
can
be
refiled
at
the
county
recorders
office
and
actually
the
auditor's
office
and
everything.
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F
All
I'm
saying
this
is
it
we
believe
that
that's
illegal
to
do
that,
but
if
a
lawyer
comes
out
I
heat
County
written
word
over
the
county
out
of
there
and
says
you
should
have.
This
should
be
a
a
letter
B
after
it
maybe
to
lots
of
Records
yeah
I
want
to
have
to
go
through
little
practice
again
interview.
So
that's
why,
when
we
run
through
we
do
it
because.
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J
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J
Problems,
everyone
that
does
buy
in
University
of
spaces
is
a
mixed-use
community
and
there
will
be
some
commercial
and
multi-family
much
of
the
infrastructure
design.
The
layout
work
has
included
in
previous
submittals.
In
other
words,
we
already
know
what
the
specs
are
for
the
underground
utilities
and
curbs
and
stuff
all
that
kind
of
stuff
can
we'll
continue
all
the
way
through
the
phase,
the
same
with
the
specs
on
the
sanitary
sewer
and
the
water
lines,
and
all
that
stuff,
you
know,
that's
all
been
approved
through
the
city.
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J
Therefore,
I
think
what
we're
asking
the
planning
of
commission
and
council
to
acknowledge
this
fact
and
after
approval,
the
PUD
in
general
delegate
the
needed
authorities
and
administrative
departments
of
the
city
for
redo
view
of
any
additional
plans
that
come
up
during
development.
In
other
words,
when
we're
doing
a
sanitary,
sewer,
installation
and
everything,
that's
a
question
for
a
Nick
Carr
and
his
people.
There's
the.
J
What
we'd
like
to
do
is
file
a
PUD
for
the
whole
project,
the
entire
project,
realizing
that
a
lot
of
you
know,
phase
one
is
already
flat
and
everything.
So
we
would
come
back
to
you
with
our
preliminary
plan
with
the
details
following
the
guidelines.
What
we're
supposed
to
do
and
then
come
back
for
a
final
I,
think
that's
because
of
where
we're
at
and
the
need
to
move
forward.
A
J
F
I
think
that
me,
as
I,
have
told
you
before
just
for
university
states,
protection
I've,
always
said
if
you're
on
plot
flat
the
whole
thing
and
find
out
what
that
triggers
at
the
County
auditors
standpoint
of
evaluation
for
tax
purposes,
because
technically
it's
plaited,
it
usually
a
perfect
or
you
need
in
this
this
case,
which
in
essence
is
an
overlay
zone.
Is
we.
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F
Change
the
value,
because
if
this
is
something
you're
going
to
do
say,
probably
just
playing
five
years,
if
it's
going
to
increase
the
value
of
the
percent
of
the
Proctor,
you
may
or
may
not
want,
maybe
too
much
the
customer
you
know
that's
table
is
a
cautionary.
If
we
go
that
way,
I
understand
it
phase.
One
you've
got
three
PUD
type
that
were
three
different
developers:
one's
a
gated
community
one's.
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Okay,
maybe
does
lockset.
Is
this
watch
7
right
here
or
is
this
more
attention
to
me?
You
dis
is
really
extension.
A
lot
to
the
team
I
see
that
in
where
the
bills
I
see
to
those
on
the
right
hand,
side
just
as
after
you
come
in
now.
The
other
side,
where
are
left
I,
see
the
road,
the
right,
epic
up
against
rut,
lop
13,
which
is
green
space
on
that
plan.
Altman
is
not
right
up
in
this
ruthless,
but
I
see
what
I
mean.
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C
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J
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F
D
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J
J
C
F
You
want
to
go
through
all
of
the
engineering
work.
Give
me
your
stormwater
calculations.
Okay,
a
lot!
That's
over
five
acres!
You
know,
that's
not
that's
an
expense.
What
was
beyond
filing
fees
with
us,
but
I,
don't
know
how
must
be
know
kind
of
how
you're
dealing
with
the
stormwater
issues,
because
some
of
these
things
may
be
owned
at
some
time,
but
they're
from
different
companies.
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F
A
C
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B
C
F
Think
that's
appropriate
because
all
of
the
sales
and
all
of
the,
in
essence,
anticipation
by
the
people,
you're
selling,
lots
and
new
apartments
and
condos
and
everything
to
it's
based
on
an
overall
plan
of
all
phases
they
ate.
Underneath
yourself,
there
was
at
least
two
full
lemon
air
plan
approval.
You
got
something
everybody's
got
something
to
say.
Yes,
that
is
what
we
want
to
see
over
here.
Now
the
detail
work
without
get
there
will
vary
and
be
changed
and
changing
at
different
times,
but
I
think
you're
fairly.
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E
A
F
Thinking
that's
an
approach.
We
could
take
this
way
suggested
way.
I
can
see
that
phase
one's
the
issue
we
have
to
deal
with
macros.
It's
me
most
under
somewhat
under
development
development.
Can
we
consider
that,
as
an
over
with
these
sections,
where
they
run
of
these
three
cases
at
the
same
time
or
either.
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F
They're
linked
and
what
I
think
that
the
developer
is
asking
for
is
rather
than
to
be
pinned
down
that
I'm
going
to
have
23
buildings
in
this
particular
development
is
never
objected
if
they
go
bless
because
that's
an
economic
thing,
but
we
did
have
a
case
a
number
of
years
ago,
I've
no
iron,
where
they
built
of
all
this
is
the
gin
describe
that
little
acre
over
here
it
sold
so
well.
People
do
another.
We
considered
that.
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F
In
the
past,
what
we've
always
said
is
if
you
change
increase
the
number
of
buildings,
because
that
has
an
impact
or
the
density
and
all
the
others
or
if
it's
something
you
do,
that
require
a
variance
from
our
code
or,
if
we'd
known
about
that
initial
submission
would
require
you
to
go
back
and
do
it
outside
of
that.
We
preloader
require
them
to
come
back
to
the
Planning
Commission,
because
almost
everything
is
still
conceptually
within.
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F
You
run
a
lot
of
risk
just
from
the
stay
in
front,
although
it's
a
fairly
simple
design
and
everything
else.
You
have
some
degree
of
risk
that
or
we
change
something
or
we
all
run
into
something.
That's
bad,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
a
real
high
one
that
that's
your
risk.
You
have
to
understand.
You're
running
I,
don't
know
where
you
are
other
than
which
I
see
there
as
to
the
other
two.
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A
F
F
J
C
F
You
have
to
have
this
informal
meeting,
then
you
got
to
wait
two
weeks
at
minimum
before
you
sometimes
longer
beautiful,
because
we've
got
to
advertise
it
for
14
days
prior
to
preliminary
approval.
So
let's
take
a
month,
is
there
alright?
And
so
then
we
go
and
say
we
give
preliminary.
You
do
all
your
final
engineering
and
everything
else.
Don't
know
how
long
that
takes
they're
not
going
to
hold
a
public
hearing
yeah
once
you
give
us
the
final
set
of
plans,
so
that
takes
time
and
we
get
to
vote
on
it.
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C
D
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F
D
What
I'm,
what
I'm
getting
to
is?
They
had
originally
requested
that
the
whole
project
be
considered
as
a
Planned
Unit
development
now
and
I
thought.
Well
what
the
discussion
was
was
there
were
some
sections,
then
that
could
get
preliminary
approval
now,
although
I've
not
discussed
this,
possibly
with
you
mayor
array
or
with
Lance
I
know,
I
was
thinking
about
it
with
Lance.
A
residential
subdivision
is
not
a
PUD
right,
it's
a
major
subdivision,
so
it
doesn't
need
to
be
included,
although
they
seem
to
be
requesting
that
that,
for
you.
D
D
Which
will
be,
in
my
opinion,
reviewed,
picked
off,
let's
say
as
individual
major
subdivisions,
not
a
Planned
Unit
development
right.
So
it's
just
if
they
do
have
a
overall
concept
plan
approval
preliminary
approval
and
they
don't
go
to
final
on
anything,
as
the
mayor
said
there
at
least
that
far
ahead.
All
right.
So
obviously.
D
F
C
D
Buildings
currently
under
construction
and
I
can't
issue
any
permits
on
them
right
because
it's
not
been
approved
as
a
PUD
I
can't
if,
if
it
was
a
single-family
home
on
the
single-family
homes,
now
that
the
bond
is
in
place,
my
understanding
is
that
the
road
bond
was
reinstituted
last
Friday,
so
I
can
start
issuing
permits
now
for
single-family
homes.
That's
already
that
was
already
reviewed
as
a
major
subdivision.
High
Point
Village
is
a
little
different
animal
and
another
reason.
D
As
the
mayor
I
think
mentioned,
it's
a
little
different
as
it
has
public
street
through
the
middle
of
normally
Planned
Unit
development
to
have
private
streets,
private
sewer
lines,
and
we
maintain
the
water
lines
only
to
fire
hydrant.
So
it
is
a
little
different,
but
still
I
cannot
issue
permits
on
individual
buildings
when
there
are
multiple
buildings
on
a
lot.
That's
the
first
part
from
from
my
perspective
that
I
need
to
deal
with
until
this
whole
process,
at
least.
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D
D
Because
that
list
of
things
you
have
to
provide
for
preliminary
approval
is
not
there's
really
not
that
much
to
it.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
the
problem
comes
in
in
final
approval,
because
there's
a
section
in
there
that
says
engineering,
feasibility
studies
as
necessary
and
I
would
add
in
there,
as
required
by
the
Planning
Commission.
And
then
you
just
have
a
laundry
list
of
things:
storm
water,
detention,
water
line,
street
construction,
landscaping,
approval
disabilities,
Commission
approval
I
mean
to
get
a
final.
That's
a
lot
more
effort.
A
D
B
There's
more
than
a
point
village,
but
needed
a
start
on
that
the
concept
is
fine
out
there,
but
if
it's
all
its
individual
Lots,
really
all
we're
deeply
I
mean
it's
not.
We
don't
need
to
approve
the
whole
thing.
We
need
to
approve
that
thing.
There
that's
multiple
buildings
and
that
came
right
in
there
is
a
different
thing
and.
C
D
That's
when
some
some
significant
tax
implications
occurs.
So
lalume
found
that
out
of
Westfield
when
they
were
going
to
do
Westfield,
Planned,
Unit
development,
just
as
soon
as
they
constructed
one
building.
The
auditor
was
going
to
have
it
the
whole
property
taxes,
improve
really
improve
property
and
then
to
last
minute
they
turned
it
into
a
major
subdivision
so
that
the
tax
wouldn't
go
up
until
they
actually
put
a
building
on
that
block.
D
C
D
For
example,
to
get
a
final
I
would
have
especially
out
here
a
laundry
list
of
birds.
Look
at
the
width.
The
depth
on
these
ones.
Look
at
the
topography
on
some
of
them.
I,
don't
know
that
there's
even
a
buildable
sight
on
any
of
those
I
have
no
idea
what
the
soul
can
dish
ins
in
there
back
in
there.
So
that's
why
I
can
see
preliminary
approval,
but
boy
there's
a
lot
of
detail
involved.
B
F
Preliminary,
which
is
concept
start
with
one
request
for
final
PUD
for
I,
pointed
those
that's
all
design
and
start
to
work,
then
as
to
get
that
one
done.
You
don't
want
to
link
through
the
time
with
anything
right
now
then
start
on
your
next
row.
You
think
you
know
bill
and
if
you
got
enough
talk,
do
you
both
up?
It
was
the
next
two.