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From YouTube: Athens City Planning Commission Meeting 04-05-07
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B
With
fix
this
cold,
we
take
sworn
statement.
So
if
you
plan
to
say
anything,
would
you
please
raise
your
hand
and
stand
up
Rach
right
now?
You
have
to
stand
up.
Do
you
swear
or
affirm,
whichever
you
want
to
do
that?
What
you
say
is
the
truth:
okay,
I
do.
Okay,
all
right.
We
had
no
cases,
let's
go
home,
I,
don't
we
did
okay,
but
we
do
have
a
communication
from
John
Wharton
and
he
wants
clarification
of
the
Commission's
recommendation.
C
D
Mr.
staffers
concern
was
primarily
that
he
owned
a
building
on
fern
Street
and
still
does
to
this
day
that
straw
and
plumbing
used
to
be
located
at
as
well
as
the
building
on
Court
Street
that
strong
pump
plumbing
was
located
in
prior
to
the
fern
Street
location,
and
he
expressed
interest
that
the
rezoning
occur.
All
the
way
down.
Fern
Street
to
capture
that
building
and
the
lines
that
are
drawn
on
a
map
that
you
have
in
front
of.
You
took
the
rezoning
request
up
to
carpenter,
Street
and
the
lines
to
incompass
Court
Street.
D
D
The
the
ambiguity
arose
as
to
where
to
draw
your
east/west
boundaries,
the
lines
that
would
be
parallel
to
court,
in
other
words,
and
so
mr.
Stauffer,
since
he
had
asked
for
his
building
to
be
included.
When
you
made
your
recommendation,
as
you
can
see,
of
a
vote
of
three
to
one
to
send
it
to
City
Council,
you
gave
them
the
flexibility
of
defining
these
boundaries
at
no
time.
D
E
D
Was
printed
off
to
for
me
by
the
city,
so
I
assume
it's
the
version
that
was
adopted,
page
58
and
I
do
want
to
just
read
a
very
short
part.
It
talks
about
uptown,
Athens
context.
Uptown
Athens
in
quotations
is
an
area
approximately
four
blocks,
long
by
two
blocks
wide
and
contains
96
historic
buildings
which
comprise
the
Athens
downtown
historic
district
listed
on
the
National
Register
of
Historic
Places.
It
is
located
along
Court
Street
from
President
Street
on
the
south
to
carpenter
Street
on
the
north
I.
D
D
Certainly,
you
all
probably
have
a
copy
of
this
and
see
it
in
your
sleep,
but
part
of
what
it
says
and
I'll
quote
apart
from
discouraging
use,
is
a
wider
range
of
retail
Service
office
and
residential
uses
should
be
encouraged
and
reflected
into
permitted
uses
downtown
and-
and
that
is
specifically
on
point
talking
about
the
zoning
I'm.
Sorry
to
say
that
this
whole
issue,
I
think,
is
being
prompted.
D
By
personal
agendas,
personalities
and
that's
unfortunate,
it's
unfortunate
for
all
the
people
involved
in
city
government
that
that
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
these
things.
It's
unfortunate
for
private
citizens
that
have
to
spend
their
wheels
and
waste
time
and
money
reviewing
and
re
re
just
revisiting
things
that
have
already
been
visited
several
times.
D
D
E
The
way
it
was
going
and
at
the
end
of
the
property
so
that
college
Street
was
remained
in
r3,
it
came
and
went
almost
like
with
that
pinnacle
where
the
dominoes
it
should
have
jogged
down
and
get
dominoes.
Then
you
talk
about
their
offers
to
attorney
offices
mm-hm
on
the
corners.
Then
you
got
wild
mercantile,
oh
and
you've
got
mm-hmm.
C
C
E
Building
then
you've
got
Jack's
place
and
then
you've
got
the
bookstore
mm-hmm.
So
should
you
leave
some
of
those
be
three
or
are
they
and
I
know?
Joanne
had
talked
that
historically,
some
of
those
were
and
some
of
them
worked.
You
know
in
the
district,
but
I
don't
think
there
was
any
question
in
our
minds.
Did
we
took
okay,
took
it
to
those
charters
and.
D
As
I
guess,
my
my
only
request
today
then
would
be
to
ask
the
board
maybe
to
send
some
type
of
a
memo
or
letter
or
something
to
City
Council,
to
confirm
that
your
ambiguity
or
your
flexibility
or
discretion
and
you're
right
nation
was
to
the
point
that
Rick
just
addressed.
It
was
not
as
any
question
as
to
the
fact
that
all
of
court
streets
should
be
included.
D
My
understanding
from
what
I've
been
told
is,
if
that
is
then
communicated
to
City
Council,
it
would
take
what
they
call
a
super
majority
to
override
the
Planning
Commission,
which
means
that
personalities
aside.
We
only
need
two
people
to
really
look
at
the
big
issue
and
say
no.
This
isn't
what
we're
going
to
do
and
I
hope
that
we
have
at
least
two
people
that
will
do
that
other
than
that
I
guess.
I'm
done.
One.
B
D
D
G
G
B
E
G
E
B
C
B
G
E
F
G
A
G
E
For
counsel
the
flexibility,
but
if
they
want
to
include
this
triangle,
fine
and
then
we're
originally
the
bus
station
and
there's
been
so
many
different
businesses
in
there,
but
Stevens
is
there
and
wild
mercantile
is
there
and
the
new
gift
shop
that
I
can't
ever
remember.
Oh,
you
know
Bali
right
and
the
videos
had
your
video
for
those.
If
those
were
in
the
B.
D
I
have
no
problem
with
it,
but
I
can
see
where
it
could
be
really
looked
at
either
way
because.
E
E
Was
trying
to
make
it
so
for
the
dark,
complex?
The
wording
is
and
let
them
make
any
changes
they
feel
as
necessary
or
necessary,
and
while
I
think
we're
being
asked
for
to
do.
Is
the
northern
and
South
southern
boundaries
of
the
district
should
in
that
carpenter
and
it's
almost
president
Street,
it's
their
dues,
copeland
hall
north
would
be
able
to
carpenter
who
our
intent
was
at
that
time
was
the
area
with
businesses
in
it,
that
is
on
East,
State,
Street
or
mill.
A
E
B
This
should
just
follow
the
line.
That's
on
here
for
the
historic
district,
see
these
things
here
are
historic,
but
they're,
not
in
the
historic
district.
They
didn't
put
them
in
there,
so
this
line
here
is
he
got
that
map
of
the
historic
district.
It
comes
right
down
behind
those
buildings,
all
those
up
there.
This
part
is,
you
know
all
this
belongs
in
the
historic
district,
but
it's
Mott,
but
this
is
when
you
get
that
map
that
shows
it
to
you.
That's
the
historic
district.
B
G
B
G
E
B
G
B
G
B
E
I
Thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
as
I
believe
there
are
five
basic
differences
between
the
b3
zone
and
the
B
TV.
The
first
one
would
be
v.
2D
has
some
limitation
on
uses
that
had
to
do
with,
for
example,
plumbing
shops
not
being
permitted
in
a
B
to
D,
where
they
would
be
in
a
B
3.
So
you
have
some
use
things
that
are
different.
I
The
second
thing
has
to
do
with
parking
and
that's
the
privilege
afforded
B
to
D
district
businesses
for
use
of
the
parking
garage
to
meet
their
commercial
parking
requirement.
So
that
would
be
the
second
one.
The
third
one
is
somewhat
related
use
and
that
has
to
do
with
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
I
A
I
And
5
are
both
related
to
signage
in
the
B
to
D
district
on
a
canopy
sign,
you
can
only
have
5
square
feet
of
graphics
in
a
B
3.
You
can
have
up
to
30%
of
the
wall
area.
The
fifth
and
the
other.
One
that
has
to
do
with
signage
is
projecting
signs,
and
the
B
to
D
district
can
only
be
8
square
feet
in
area
maximum,
with
no
dimension
greater
than
three
and
a
half
feet
in
length
in
a
B
3
in
this
particular
area,
you
can
have
a
free-standing.
B
B
B
B
G
E
G
B
B
G
B
H
B
E
E
B
E
B
And
we
have
been
discussing
we
last
time
we
met,
we
discussed
various
aspects
of
we're
only
talking
about
this
movable
signs
or
the
lights,
and
whether
or
not
they
should
be
the
size
and
how
often
they
should
should
change,
and
we
needed
to
come
up
with
a
definition
of
these
signs.
I
think
we
decided
we
want
to
have
a
definition
and
we
had
to
decide
on
one
of
the
things
there
to
decide
and
get
information
was
how
often
they
should
change
any
number
of
things
is
there.
We
didn't
have
very
many
people
from
the
public.
B
A
B
F
On
that,
but
this
past
summer
I
was
on
vacation
in
New.
England
I
went
through
a
number
of
historic
areas
from
you
know
way
back
in
revolutionary
times
and
where,
with
there
are
local
codes,
the
businesses
are
in
the
homes
back
in
stone
homes,
and
you
do
see
these
new
signs
and
a
tasteful
display.
So
I
think
you
can
mix
modern
technology
aesthetically,
so
I
just
wouldn't
mean
them
totally.
I
think
that
you
they
can
be
incorporated.
Tastefully
and
I.
Think
the
system,
Bank
you
know,
is
a
with
landscaping.
B
E
D
E
Then
you're
talking
about
gasoline
stations
that
have
what
their
prices,
which
is
a
digital,
LED
type
thing,
and
then
you
talk
about
lighted
message
boards
that
flash
run
or
you
can
do
anything
like
the
one
at
CVS
on
these
states.
So
we
need
a
couple
new
definitions.
Within
our
code,
most
of
our
discussion
last
week
really
centered
around
there's
not
so
much
that
we
totally
object
to
the
plasma
like
screens,
but
that
we
don't
want
them
up
real
high.
C
B
H
H
B
B
E
B
On
Van
another
one:
did
you
see
the
flashing
sign
on
Mill
Street,
there's
more
shotgun?
It
has
a
flashing.
G
B
B
E
F
B
G
B
C
F
B
A
E
G
E
A
E
Third
page,
they
have
a
difference,
but
they
have
an
electronic
display
screen,
which
talks
about
television
screens,
fires
well,
digital
screens,
flat-screen,
LED,
screens,
video
boards
and
photographic
displays.
Then
they
have
electronic
message
centers,
which
is
any
sign
or
a
portion
of
a
sign
that
uses
changing
lights,
to
form
a
sign
message
or
messages
in
text
form
or
in
the
sequence
of
messages,
in
the
rate
of
change
this
electronically
program
and
can
be
modified
by
electronic
to
process.
E
That
sounds
to
me
more
like
the
sign
that
CVS
has
how
to
don't
want
to
lock
them
all
together,
because
I
did
like
the
idea.
If
we
go
with
the
electronically
video
boards
and
monolith
type
sides,
you
still
have
to
have
something
to
do.
What
they're
calling
an
electronic
message
center
yeah,
because
they've
got
the
CVS
thing.
They
got
this
message
board
and
I.
You
see
the
message
boards
that
are
right
now
by
letters
that
people
put
up
and
you've
got
those
a
Burger
King
in
other
places.
They
may
change
those
out
at
some
time.
E
C
G
E
I
C
G
C
C
G
E
C
I
A
E
C
B
B
I
I
B
B
F
E
C
B
B
H
C
B
I
I
E
G
E
E
B
A
E
G
A
G
B
B
G
E
B
E
B
E
B
B
C
E
G
B
G
C
H
A
I
B
G
Are
described
in
the
before
of
the
of
the
first
paragraph
of
the
sign
regulations
under
age
23
for
advertising
signs
of
all
types,
our
business
uses,
an
accept
or
specifically
authorized
by
the
terms
of
the
section
shall
not
be
permitted
any
song
other
than
B
or
M
zones.
Now
you
want
to
change
that
to
be
more
specific
and
and
make
them
conditional
in
a
mess
or.
G
B
A
G
E
Well,
I
think
part
Steve.
Is
that
part
of
that?
If
he
will
give
you
with
our
general
intent,
is
or
where
we
want
them?
You
know
where
you're
gonna
look
in
the
code
for
us
to
find
that
or
refer
people
we
don't
want
to
bury
it
down
with
monument
signs
are
down
in
with
something
else.
It
all
needs
to
be
one
kind
of
spot.
I
B
B
B
E
E
Also,
good
citizens
was
fine,
there's
a
bank
there
I
mean
in
respect
to
the
parking
lots
higher
up,
so
it's
got
some
screening
behind
it,
landscaping
wise
and
such
and
that's
that's
that's
what's
hard
about
setting
some
of
these
restrictions
or
maximums,
because
we
do
have
a
very
tog
Rafi.
What
will
look
good
one
placement.
E
G
A
H
H
I
E
H
H
E
E
E
B
G
G
Well,
we
already
okay,
it
says
our
Miriam
string
you
during
the
hours
of
the
day
during
which
the
business
is
not
operation.
What
if
we
just
said
there
should
be
no
elimination
of
signs
during
those
hours
of
the
day
during
which
went
which
the
business
is
not
an
operation
that
you
don't
say
are
three.
B
A
B
G
B
J
F
B
I
F
E
A
B
Well,
the
name
of
the
bank
and
the
name
of
the
company,
still
wonder:
you're,
not
taking
that
away,
but
you're,
taking
away
the
movement
and
the
brake
lights
from
the
message
that
changes
I.
Think
yesterday,
I
went
was
a
yesterday:
I
went
by
I,
couldn't
even
read
what
was
on
your
sign.
It
was
read,
it
was
mostly
read
and
it
just
all.
B
J
J
B
G
They're
right
about
these,
every
site
is
a
special
occasion.
Science.
There
ought
to
be
a
standard
length
of
time.
The
temporary
science
could
be
up
and
I
think
they
ought.
Indeed
they
have
the
date
on
when
they
you
should
be
taken
down,
so
that
then
you'll
get
a
lot
of
help
from
the
neighborhood
busybodies
about
signs
that
are
chopped
and
taken
down.
Kevin.
G
I
G
E
E
E
G
C
G
G
C
G
C
C
A
C
I
G
You
can
read
your
writing.
Well,
I
tried
to
make
it
somewhat
legible,
but
the
other,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
was
going
to
ask,
is:
can
you
rather
by
Joe
shields,
so
that
we,
the
Knights,
have
if
he
has
any
other
suggestions
about
things
that
we
have
to
provide
for
the
electronic
protect
against
light
pollution.