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You're
gonna
swear,
affirm
thing:
yes,
okay,
all
right.
The
public
hearing
which
was
advertised
in
the
paper
is
concerns
Herald
Square,
a
major
subdivision.
Your
weekly
public
hearing
was
requested
regarding
proposed
of
the
reef
flat
1.10,
four
acres
of
JC
Campbell's
ferry
Fairfield
additions
with
city
veterans.
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For
the
size
of
the
locks,
and
then
there
are
two
that
are
needed
for
parking
concerning
parking,
we
the
thing
that
we've
got
before
and
the
mail
is
just
a
two
page
spring.
This
one
is
a
much
larger
thing
with
the
law
attached
to
it,
which
we
didn't
get
because
of
the
mail
and
the
day,
there's
no
mail
extra
day
of
no
mail,
so
we
didn't
get
it
ahead
of
time
all
right.
Anybody
on
this
board
have
a
question.
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A
Here
are
you
back
with
all
your
papers?
The
first
case
is
0
to
14
diversified,
propery
properties,
Herald
Square,
putt
approval.
We
just
had
a
public
hearing
and
in
the
hearing
there
were.
The
only
comments
were
that
there
was
a
question
about
the
numbering
of
the
Lots.
There
was
an
air
in
the
and
the
memo
that
we
had.
Ok
I
think
that
we
have
the
right
papers.
Now
the
mayor
found
a
set
of
papers
John
and
we
don't
pay
the
same
papers
that
you
were
fearful
final
papers.
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I
Down
here
at
the
bottom,
we
have
the
alert
of
the
day.
Comrade
property
we've
proposed
changing
that,
although
right
now
I
don't
his
not
process,
though
it
has
been
reverted
back
to
the
way
it
was
originally
planted.
So
really
there's
been
no
change
here.
Who've
added
back
to
the
original
portion,
then
we've
committed
the
City
Council
letters
to
vacate
Greenview
Lane,
which
is
this
road
right
through
here,
but
along
with
that,
there
is
an
easement
that
we
want
to
submit
to.
I
We
won't
propose
a
temporary
non-exclusive.
Easement
is
hereby
granted
and
reverse
the
access
for
public
and
private
emergency
vehicles
to
use
that
easement
area
for
access
between
University,
Boulevard
and
armed
lead
roads,
the
owner
of
the
property
on
which
emergency
access
and
located
shall
repair,
maintain
the
gravel
road
there
on
until
the
easement
granted
it
with
no
terminate
the
easement
granted
in
this
note,
shall
terminate
automatically
upon
the
cladding
or
other
dedication
of
a
public
right
away,
connect
the
University,
Boulevard
and
armories
Road,
along
generally
the
same
alignment
as
the
emergency
access.
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Very
similar,
temporary
non-exclusive
easement
is
hereby
granted
or
the
emergency
access
for
public
and
private
emergency
vehicles
to
use
that
easement
area
for
access
between
University,
States,
Boulevard
and
Altamont
Drive.
The
owner
of
the
property
in
which
emergency
at
Eastman
is
located
shall
repair,
maintain
the
gravel
road
there
long
until
the
easement
granted
miss
no
terminates
the
easement
granted
miss
no
shall
terminate
automatically
upon
the
planning
or
other
dedication
of
a
public
right
away,
connected
University
of
states
and
ultimart
drive
along
the
generally
the
same
alignment
as
emergency
access
or
us.
I
An
alternate
route
is
proposed
and
accepted.
This
is
a
temporary
Road
in
the
future.
The
Stone
Ridge
will
be
connected
here
and
that
will
eliminate
the
need
for
that
different
road.
But,
right
now
we
need
the
ISIS
access
for
birthday
pinnacle.
All
of
these
laws
have
been
changed
due
to
the
vacating
there's.
Also
a
vacation
fake
letter
vacate
the
hitting
request
for
Stone
Ridge
Altamont
Terrace.
This
end
becomes
the
new
Altamont
Drive.
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I
think
at
some
point,
Greg
you're
gonna
have
to
add
some
easements
to
get
to
the
water
pump
station
yeah.
So
it's
the
station
easement
of
egress
and
then
obviously,
if
if
there
are
any
water
or
sewer,
this
pump
station
sort
of
sits
down
here,
it's
not
on
a
roadway
and
have
water
sits
down
here.
It's
not
really.
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See
this
all
gets
eliminated,
this
open
space
gets
going.
This
open
space
is
converted
into
seven
D,
except
for
a
50-foot
barrier.
Still
that
now
then
comes
down
here
to
the
new
only
place
where
all
money
is
I.
Think
this
line
pretty
well
stays
the
same
up
to
about
here.
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A
Well,
if
you
would,
if
you
would
take
this
thing,
if
you
would
take
this
thing
over,
do
this
instead
of
putting
this
over
here,
put
it
over
here
and
then,
when
you
take
this
pull
this
sheet
up,
and
this
comes
down
here
rather
than
it's
over
here
and
you're
over
here,
I
mean
it's
just
to
make
sense
to
me
to
me.
Neither
because
it's
humans
feel
well
I,
don't
see!
Why
not
I,
don't
know!
Why
made
it
that
big
I
mean
he
could
have
just
put.
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Expect
eight
to
one
the
High
Point
Village
and
say:
if
should
be
in
the
grand
total
and
say
we
want
to
move
toward
final
approval
on
that
and
ask
the
Commission
for
any
input
they
would
want
on
any
final
submissions,
which
is
a
fairly
normal
thing.
We
do
usually
at
the
preliminary,
but
this
is
the
only
one
as
I
understand.
That's
far
enough
along
and
design.
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D
Yes,
I
think
you've
initially
have
a
meeting
or
a
series
of
discussion.
Saying:
hey
we're
I
mean
with
the
Commission
saying
what
we're
going
to
get
be
getting
ready
to
develop
this
as
a
final
within
six
eight
months
or
whatever.
This
is
our
just
that's
what
that
is,
we've
changed
if
there
has
been
any
changes.
What
do
you
want
to
see
in
it?
What
are
you
going
to
particularly
be
looking
for?
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B
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K
And
do
you
think
that
probably
is
not
132
the
fact
that
this
project-
none
of
this
project,
July
all
of
the
aspect
of
the
high
point,
so
it
was
permitted
to
handle
through
the
state
before
going
into
the
city?
It's
our
contention
that
we're
a
ballot
on
performance
use
for
the
fillers,
which
has
been
nothing
to
do
with
the
request
for
the
preliminary
for
the
OL
PUD.
Now,
as
far
as
the
answers
to
that,
the
court
will
be
doing
that.
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A
We
were
outside
the
city,
and
we
didn't
have
to
do
this
and
of
course
there
were
things
that
had
to
be
done
and
I'm
not
sure
that
I
mean
I
would
have
to
have
ironclad
guarantee
that
they're
not
going
to
go
in
there
and
build
something
and
this
if
I,
if
I,
say
that
that's
this
inconstant
the
concept
is
fine.
That
means
that's
what
it
means.
I,
don't
want
anything
done
until
all
this
is
settled
personally
I
mean
this
is
how
I
felt.
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F
Hello
again,
I,
don't
know
if
you're
ready
for
me,
Rick
Kirk,
Edwards
company's
Ryan
Pearson
from
the
edge
group
and
Chris
Rhodes
is
here
from
the
Everest
companies.
Also
we're
here
with
lots
of
detail
and
to
follow
up
from
our
preliminary
development
plan
approval
which
occurred
last
September.
This
is
the
final
development
plan
and
we
wanted
to
discuss
some
of
the
progress
that
we've
made
and
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
F
Since
we
last
met,
we
have
made
some
realignments
of
the
buildings
due
to
soil
analysis
and
we've
located
all
the
buildings
building
loads
and
the
majority
of
the
parking
on
the
stable
rock
beneath
the
beneath
the
buildings.
As
Athens
area
has
slipped
prone
soils,
and
so
we
have
conducted
an
extensive
amount
of
soil
engineering.
Deep
borings
and
have
Ryan
has
realigned
the
sites
so
that
all
of
our
buildings
on
our
own
Rock.
F
We
also
had
discussions
with
council
members
and
have
met
several
times
regarding
a
development
agreement
which
would
impact
not
only
our
site,
but
the
off-site
development,
which
involves
an
extension
of
a
water
line
from
Blackburn
Road
through
our
Jason
property,
neighbor's
property
and
through
our
site
down
to
Richland
Avenue.
The
engineering
is
civil
engineering
is
nearly
complete
on
this.
We
have
Stan
Terry
sewer
that
is
designed.
We
had
storm
sewer
analysis.
Detention
is
designed.
F
That
is
of
our
Clubhouse.
This
large
element
here
will
be
viewed
through
the
now
that
I
have
it
up
here.
I'll
move
it
to
the
floor,
but
one
of
my
design
intents
and
design
driving
along
Richland
Avenue,
is
that
as
we
look
from
the
original
Avenue
to
the
visual
corridor,
that
draws
our
eye
up
as
we
referenced
buildings
and
the
ridges
and
some
of
the
architectural
historic
elements
and
of
those
wonderful
buildings.
F
That's
been
an
important
part
of
our
developing
developments
in
the
past
and
as
we
presented
our
resume
of
things
that
we've
done
in
Columbus
and
other
areas,
we
will
continue
to
try
and
pursue
that
here
and
we're
excited
about
about
the
prospect
that
said,
I'll,
let
Ryan
fill
in
the
missing
links
and
any
feedback
that
you
have.
We
are
planning
to
come
back
for
a
public
hearing
and
hear
in
the
January
meeting
and
proceed
if,
with
with
the
hopes
that
we
can
meet
your
expectations
and
proceed
due
to
counsel
here
in
the
next
month,.
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As
Rick
mentioned,
we
did
change
the
site,
clean
and
I
wanted
to
go
through
and
just
kind
of
fill
everybody
in
on
how
the
cycling
has
changed
recommended
the
major
thing
that
change
the
site
plan
was
the
fact
that
you
needed
to
stay
on
the
rock
and
the
ridge
comes
out
somewhat
like
this,
so
they
as
we
cut,
we
need
to
stay
on
the
stable
soils.
Then
the
fil
hillsides
also
changed.
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When
we
had
a
2-1,
it
has
changed
a
three
to
one
and
some
of
the
things
that
that
did
to
us
is
it
actually
meant
to
wear
our
parking
lots
sooner.
You
know
the
amount
of
grading
we
got
into.
We
didn't
lose
get
into
the
riparian
corridors
anymore,
because
that's
one
of
the
core
beliefs
of
the
plan
is
to
protect
both
of
the
watersheds
on
the
east
and
west
boundaries.
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L
We
we
managed
to
keep
the
core
the
integrity
of
the
plan
as
far
as
the
riparian
corridors,
the
view
from
the
community
originally
Avenue.
We
maintain
the
entry
Drive
than
the
entry
experience
coming
into
the
site
and
we
have
a
mail
and
bus
stop
location
at
the
top
of
the
hill,
and
we
have
another.
What
would
be
like
a
sign
or
the
sign
for
billion
that
could
double
as
a
bus
stop
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill,
because
the
grade
on
the
entry
drive
is
at
12%,
the
sidewalk
that's
associated
with
it.
L
The
tree
lawn
is
at
12%
accessibility.
Now
we're
having
a
location
at
two
points
where
we
could
stop
and
show
forth.
It
would
allow
everybody
to
get
down
to
the
Richland
Avenue
corridor
and
shove,
the
retail
they
need
to
this
first.
The
engineering
goes.
Our
engineering
is
well
on
its
way.
Rick
mentioned
the
off
sites,
water
line
that
would
be
coming
through
you
Jason
property,
some
of
the
good
things
that
that
does
is
it
eliminates
a
couple
of
booster
pumps
off
the
existing
city
water
system.
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L
Crosses
the
screen,
and
apparently
what
we've
heard
is
that
at
the
siphon,
somehow
floods
that
causes
some
backup
of
the
sewage
we're
actually
able
to
come
on
the
downstream
side
of
the
creek
and
tie
into
the
sewer
on
the
other
side
of
the
cyclist.
So
our
development
would
not
impact
the
backing
up
of
the
upstream
part
of
the
seniors,
and
in
doing
that,
we
also
wear
a
letter
R
providing
additional
capacity
to
service
over
land
around
the
area,
which
is
a
benefit
to
the
city
of.
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F
Our
hope
there
is
that
we
can
have
a
completed
set
of
documents
so
that
we
present
something
that
virtual
versus
an
eyeful
that
doesn't
have
loose
ends.
We
did
have
a
meeting
today
that
will
modify
the
access
to
our
review
or
substantially
that
shouldn't
change
the
the
layout
of
our
buildings.
It's
just
going
to
move
them
over
a
few
feet,
and
but
we
expect
them
to
have
a
thorough
set
of
documents
for
for
Burgess
tonight.
Ball.
L
L
Now
we
have
one
location
where
a
corner
of
the
building
gets
to
within
23
to
25
feet
of
the
you
know
your
property
as
it
angles
back
in
your
property
a
little
bit.
So
we
do
we're
not
exactly
sure
if
this
would
be
the
front
of
that
setback,
and
this
would
be
considered
a
side
yard
setback
which
we
need
a
feed
work.
Whatever
the
case,
we're
asking
for
a.
A
G
L
When
we
get
into
this
thing
and
start
doing
the
construction
at
this
point,
we
we
went
up,
and
we
did
some
tree
surveys
up
in
here
to
locate
them
always
live
in
areas.
We
won't
really
know
until
the
time
of
the
plantings.
That's
our
intent
to
get
in
contact
with
the
adjacent
property
owners
work
with
them
on
the
placement
where
they
might
and
the
plants
were
showing
her
to
show
general
quantities
and
the
intent
the.
A
F
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L
You
know
we're
asking
for
the
lane
use
approval
and
to
get
the
rest
of
the
project
approved
at
the
time
that
somebody
comes
forward
that
wants
to
purchase
this
from
them.
It'd
be
more
like
a
normal
process
of
tourists
rates
under
33.
You
know
there
would
be
some
code
reviews
some
state
review
on
the
plans.
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A
D
L
A
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D
What
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
do
at
least
see
because
you're
going
down
to
a
0.85
parking
ratio
per
bedroom?
I
know
you
have
students,
market
type,
apartments
at
University
of
Kentucky,
epsilon,
E
Toledo,
and
what
what
kind
of
experience
do
you
have
there
as
to
the
numbers
of
people
would
have
cars.
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F
We
we
made
a
deal
with
the
city
that
a
year
after
we
were
open,
we
would
review
and
hire
a
traffic
engineer
to
review
the
parking,
because
there
was
different
opinions
about
whether
it
would
be
enough-
and
they
just
recently
conducted
that
and
in
our
0.75
has
been
sufficient.
So
there
is
certainly
the
belief
that
most
people
have
cars
today,
but
in
fact
some
people
still
don't
some
people
walk
to
class
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
it's
been
it's.
L
L
F
Of
the
things
I
want
to
show
and
pulling
this
out.
Excuse
me:
Ryan
was
that
this
is
an
aerial
photo
and
you
can
see
the
green
space
and
then
the
adjacent
area,
which
is
the
site
which
is
in
the
the
logging
that's
gone
on
site,
has
certainly
removed
the
vegetation
and
created
a
situation
where
you
have
an
exam
erosion
issues.
So
our
plan
has
represents
trying.
C
F
F
F
L
D
I
mean
I,
don't
mind,
I,
understand
the
concept
of
not
having
one
to
one,
because
that
you
go
up
in
numbers.
Yes,
I
agree,
but
at
least
if
we
had
some
data
as
to
other
places
and
how
it
works
out
and
then
maybe
we
want
to
do
the
same
thing:
listen
land
he
did
after
one
or
two
years
for
watch
and
see,
take
a
look
at
it
and
see.
If
we
have
a
problem,
I
mean
I,
don't
mind,
looking
at
a
variance
for
that.
F
A
A
A
A
A
J
D
D
A
D
A
From
me,
yeah
because
he's
written
letters
from
that,
but
we
he's
not
been
here
to
discuss
it
in
as
I
said:
I'm
I,
don't
think
we
can
approach
one
side
of
that
and
not
the
other
side.
I
think
there
is
going
to
have
to
be
in
the
earlier
thing
in
88.
They
consider
it
spot.
Zoning
is
what
they
they
determined.
It
was,
but
I
think
that
whole
Rose
whole
section.
There
is
going
to
be
affected
on
either
side
and
I.
Just
don't
concern
about.
A
A
J
A
A
bad
spot
already
so
I
think
when
we
think
about
one
we're
going
to
have
to
think
about
the
other,
even
though
they're
different,
neighborhoods
and
I
agree
with
you
that
there's
a
difference,
but,
okay,
so
will
you
will
at
least
look
for
check
into
the
next
meeting
to
see
if
we
kind
of
do
it?
Okay,.
C
A
M
Do
a
little
presentation
here,
I'm
here,
to
propose
and
develop
a
condominium
project
in
the
plains.
I
previously
came
before
you
to
propose
a
subdivision
on
this
property
which,
at
the
time,
your
assessment
of
the
project
was
not
something
you
would
approve.
There
are
many
variances
I
would
have
to
conform
to
and
other
issues
that
made
the
plan
not
feasible.
I
have
since
went
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
I
am
now
proposing
to
build
and
develop
this
condominium
project
called
the
village
of
Castle.
Pines
I
realized
that
you
will
review
these
plans.
M
This
will
be
on
private
property.
All
utilities
and
the
roads
will
be
maintained
by
private
homeowners
association
and
also
managed
by
a
professional
management
company
I
have
since
met
with
rich
kassler
of
plains,
Water
and
Sewer,
the
plains
trustees
and
the
plains
Fire
Department.
They
have
reviewed
the
plans
and
have
given
me
a
preliminary
okay
subject
to
review.
Obviously
from
the
county.
M
Commissioners
and
the
county
commissioners
recommended
that
I
get
an
OK
from
Steve
Pearson
and
Bob
I
c'n
Berger
I
met
with
both
Bob
and
Steve
Steve
recommended
that
I
present
the
plans
to
you,
which
is
why
I'm
here
today,
bob
has
also
recommended
I
come
today
and
Bob
has
reviewed.
The
plans
and
Bob
was
here
today
and
Bob
had
has
recommended
that
I
put
certain
easements
into
the
plans,
private
easements
for
the
utilities
and
the
road
which,
under
his
recommendation
and
whatever
you
guys
say,
I
will
do
so.
M
I
guess
basically,
at
this
time,
I'm
looking
for
some
kind
of
a
preliminary
okay,
so
I
can
go
back
to
the
county
commissioners
and
get
there
okay
and
basically
I'm
kind
of
confused
on
what
your
jurisdiction
is
on
the
project.
And
you
know
what
I
need
from
you
guys
to
proceed
forward
on
this
project.
I've
been
getting
a
lot
of
mixed
well
mixed.
M
H
H
M
A
J
K
J
J
Neither
the
submission
of
property
to
the
provisions
of
this
chapter,
53
11,
nor
the
conveyance
or
transfer
of
a
condominium
ownership
interest
constitutes
a
subdivision
within
the
meaning
of
our
subject
to
chapter
7
11,
which
is
the
subdivision
section
and
there's
a
one
of
my
concerns
was
the
definition
of
subdivision
or
one
of
the
definitions
of
subdivision
is
when
you're
setting
aside
land
for
easements
for
utilities
or
roadways,
public
or
private.
That
is
technically
a
subdivision
under
I'll
law.
J
But
this
section,
53
1102,
specifically
exempts
condominiums
from
subdivision
and
in
section
53
1103
there
is
mention
that
each
I'll,
just
read
this
to
each
residential
and
commercial
unit
in
the
condominium,
shall
have
a
direct
exit
to
a
public
street
or
highway
to
a
common
element
leading
to
a
public
street
or
highway
or
to
a
permanent
easement
leading
to
a
public
street
or
highway.
So
they
specifically
mention
in
here
easements
within
this
development,
but
still
exempt
it
from
the
subdivision
rule.
A
C
D
H
B
There
any
common
property-
that's
that
would
be
owned
by
the
Association
in
general.
Yes,.
M
Yeah,
basically
the
roads,
what
he
alluded
to
basically
would
be
the
roads,
the
detention
pond,
any
other
common
areas,
such
as
the
to
be
private
grounds.
The
sidewalk
areas
and
basically
the
outside
of
all
the
units
would
be
common
elements
and
from
the
according
to
definition,
from
the
walls
inside
would
be
what
you
would
own
as
far
as
your
condominium
and
everything
on
the
exterior
would
become
a
common
element.
So.
M
These
are
basically
garages
back
here
and
and
it's
kind
of
like
an
alleyway.
You
know,
I
put
your
cars
in
you
know
and
then
the
the
Front's
of
these
buildings.
This
would
be
a
green
space
area.
You
know,
then
you
go
into
like
an
alleyway
back
in
here
for
the
parking
and
then
green
space.
You
know
when
you're
coming
into
the
project,
then
you
go
back
into
here.
This
would
be
a
green
space
area
right
here
and
then
overflow
parking
has
been
taken
into
consideration
for
the
units.
H
D
D
Does
no
public
streets,
it
has
no,
no
so
I,
don't
think
it's
really
done
to
me.
I
mean
I'm,
adding
there
has
to
be
something
in
the
record
or
somewhere
with
it
saying
that's
that's
the
way
it's
gonna
be
food
for
all
time,
I
mean
because
somebody
can't
be
able
to
have
a
low
kind
of
any
of
the
Association
thinking
all
off
the
county.
You
come
along
to
fix
this
road
right
here,
gonna
happen
and
believe
me.
These
potholes
get
expensive.
D
Think
it
would
require
peed,
it
might
require
PUD
or
something
if
it
was
in
the
city,
because
we
have
zoning,
Ronnie
Plains
doesn't
have
a
zoning,
that's
the
only
reason
we
have
the
three-mile
limit
right.
So
we're
even
comes
before
us,
but
was
it
in
black
rezoning
I?
Don't
think
the
subdivisions
really
kick
in
when
you
don't
use
public
infrastructure.
I
M
E
K
D
Well,
probably
just
made
a
motion
that
would
indicate
that,
with
the
what
is
it
the
village
and
Castle
Pines
now
does
not
fall
under
that.
Our
painting
does
not
fall
under
the
fo
city
subdivision
regulations,
as
it
has
no
public
infrastructure
and
the
antennas
that
will
remain
private
private
infrastructure
maintained
at
the
Association
kind
of
any
associations
cost
send
it
all
this
way.
Second,.