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A
Today's
meeting
the
Thursday
March
6th
meeting
of
the
Planning
Commission
will
be
called
to
order.
We
do
have
a
quorum.
Is
three
people
three
out
of
five
I
need
to
administer
the
oath,
all
people
who
will
be
testifying
today,
please
note:
do
you
swear
or
affirm
that
what
you
say
today
is
the
truth?
Yes,.
A
A
A
B
B
These
lots
are
writable
one
lot.
This
proposes
one
excuse
me
0.18,
Oh
acres
and
the
other
at
0.1
to
1
6,
to
6
acres,
where
point
four
or
five
nine
one
acres
or
20,000
square
feet
of
committed
minimum.
What
it
is
it's
a
read:
evasion
of
to
existing
lots,
lots,
109
and
110
in
the
Michael's
addition
to
the
village
of
Verity,
which
was
the
name
that
the
plains
had
back
in
the
day
was
called
Verity.
B
B
C
B
Table
1
and
the
subdivision
regulations
what
it
does
it
lists
out
in
the
county
and
in
the
city,
combinations
of
public
water,
public
sewer
and
curb
and
gutter,
and
depending
on
how
each
of
those
questions
are
answered
that
drives
the
minimum
lot
size.
So
in
this
particular
case,
Plains
Water
and
Sewer
District
Services
has
both
water
and
sewer
there.
The
streets
don't
have
curbs
on
them,
however,
and
so
that
makes
the
minimum
lottery
20,000
square
feet
again,
just
kind
of
as
a
reference
point
for
T
like
43,560
square
feet,
is
an
anchor.
D
B
E
E
B
E
This
situation
occurred
because,
obviously
a
split
of
this
small,
a
lot
I
mean
it's
not
something
we
generally
would
want
to
be
doing,
and
also
a
Citizens
Bank
is
not
in
the
development
business.
What
happened
was
there
was
another
individual
who
originally
owned
this
piece
of
real
estate.
His
name
was
a
mr.
Abdullah
and
mr.
Abdullah
did
not
pay
his
loan
so
that
we
ended
up
filing
foreclosure
action
and
ended
up
actually
getting
this
real
estate
back
via
that
foreclosure.
What
mr.
E
Abdullah
did
and
I
did
not
realize
was
he
actually
had
it
listed
in
all
of
our
documents
as
being
8
and
8,
and
a
half
first
street
there
in
the
plains,
I
mean
and
again.
If
you
actually
would
weigh.
If
you
got
to
view
it
and
banks
say
it
looks
like
they're
two
entirely
separate
structures,
I
think
mr.
Pierson
would
agree
with
that.
However,
one
basically
faces
on
the
front
and
then
the
other
one
faces
on
the
back
I
mean
the
one.
E
The
front
basically
would
make
a
very
nice
single-family,
residence
and
so
I
thought
was
I
mean
we're
always
training
the
business
of
trying
to
help
people
out
especially
I
mean
this
would
be
a
nice
what
I
call
starter
home
and
so
to
see.
If
we
could
try
to
do
that
now.
Obviously,
there's
there's
benefit
to
us
as
well,
because
it
makes
means
there's
more
buyers
for
a
property
like
that,
so
I
don't
want
to
try
and
Buffalo
the
I
mean
into
thinking
that
we
don't
get
benefit
out
of
that
as
well.
E
But
then
that's
the
reason
for
it.
I
mean
you
know
when
we
originally
made
the
loan
I
mean
it
was
not
our
intent
on
developing
it
or
doing
anything
like
this,
so
we
those
are,
and
we
simply
had
a
borrower
when
to
make
a
loan
and
we
wanted
a
length
of
the
transaction.
So
that's
why
how
we
got
into
it
I
mean
so
that's
kind
of
the
way
it
came
to
be
this
way.
It
was
not
our
intent
ever
to
be
here
in
this
proceeding
on
any
kind
of
development
type
of
issue,
I.
C
B
B
E
I
mean
the
the
parking
area
which
is
in
the
back
is
very
nice
again.
The
building.
That's
in
the
back
is
actually
a
triplex
I
mean,
and
so
was
have
happens
as
you
have
a
very
nice
large
parking
area
in
the
back
for
that
triplex
and
then
the
other
one
obviously
is
a
single-family
residence.
That's
there
and
there
in
the
front,
yeah.
D
E
I
mean
I
think
is
actually
I
mean
you
know
even
I
mean
it's
a
road,
but
actually
I
mean
the
way
I
would
prefer
to.
It
is
more
of
an
alley
really
than
a
road
I
mean,
and
it's
is
not
a
paved
road.
It
was
looks
like
it's.
What
I
would
call
either
a
chip,
road
or
a
gravel
type
of
road,
but
I
mean,
though
that's
the
way
they've
always
had
access
to
that
that
structure.
That's
the
only
way
really
in
and
out
as
we
speak
right
now,
it's.
B
C
D
D
E
E
This
isn't
the
type
of
property
where
you,
basically,
where
you,
which
you
sometimes
have,
especially
in
a
little
bit
more
undeveloped
area,
where
you
have
basically
a
residence
and
then
have
a
smaller
building.
That
basically
has
I
mean
something
that
you
could
rent
out
to
a
student
or
something
event.
I
mean
it
clearly.
Is
that
the
main
building
really
is
the
commercial
building
in
the
back,
so
I
mean
you
know.
Obviously
that
would
indicate
that
I
mean
you
know.
E
It
would
be
going
to
somebody
who
is
not
a
single-family
residence
I
mean
it
would
be
another
commercial
investor
and
then
and
again,
obviously,
in
to
me
this
I
mean
as
I
go
down
this
street.
This
seems
to
be
more
of
a
intentional
type
of
area,
and
again
it
was
our
thought
that
basically,
if
we,
if
we
developed
or
allow
this
to
be
celled
to
a
single
family,
become
a
single
family
residence,
it
would
actually
probably
be
actually
more
in
character
with
the
overall
area.
E
B
B
So
it's
the
kind
of
it's
fortunate
or
unfortunate
compared
to
city
regulations.
It's
unfortunate,
because
the
development
would
not
be
consistent
with
what
occurs
in
town.
However,
the
city
is
looking
at
the
three
mile
radius,
the
subdivision
of
land,
not
necessarily
the
development,
so
it's
not
out
of
character
for
the
development,
an
area,
but
it's
way
out
of
character
for
development
in
town.
B
A
C
Mean
I
could
conceal,
they
see
somebody
wanting
to
own
a
house,
but
you
know
pay
off
the
loan
by
having
the
apartments
behind
there.
Okay
cuz,
if
we
split
it.
Okay,
obviously
the
front
front
part
verse
three,
so
a
starter
house,
but
the
second
part
is
you
know
who
moves
over
there
and
what
you?
What
do
you
see
happening
there?
In
all
cases
it
doesn't
fit
anything
we
never
in
city.
This
Steve
points
I
mean
just
for
live
coverage,
it
doesn't
fit.
C
You
know
it's
set
back
so
and
we'll
make
it
the
contrary
to.
Although
size-wise
it
cries
read
some
of
the
adjacent.
C
D
A
C
B
B
Line
just
goes
right
down
through
the
middle
of
it
yeah
without
zoning
regulations.
You
know
you
can
buy
it,
you
could
buy
two
or
three
or
four
Lots
and
build
a
structure
any
way
you
wanted.
This
is
kind
of
like
a
you
know,
a
a
1920s
type
skinny
deep
lot,
plaited,
where
somebody
bought
two
and
built
a
1950s
ranch
kind
of
house,
that's
right
across
the
front
and
the
only
way
they
could
build.
C
C
C
A
A
B
C
D
A
C
F
E
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
miss
it
again.
At
least
it's
been
again:
I
am
NOT
in
the
development
and
at
the
bank,
I'd
be
the
first
to
admit
that,
but
it
generally
Amino.
If
you
have
single-family
residences
I
mean
again
it
usually.
It
makes
the
neighborhood
I
mean
it
gives
it
more
of
a
neighborhood,
feel
I
mean
right
now
it
has
much
more
of
a
commercial
feel
to
this
I
mean
again
and
as
I'm
as
a
record
going
back
this
way
here
there
many
more
single-family
residences.
That
was
our
reason
for
was
thinking.
E
Well,
you
know
the
this
more
because
the,
for
example,
the
folks
who
are
next
door
here
at
the
it's,
at
least
in
my
math,
says
the
Donna
Jones
lot.
108
I
mean
that's
a
single-family
residence.
So
again,
obviously
it
was
our
our
intent.
Basically
say:
okay,
let's
try
and
make
this
look
like
the
character
of
the
rest
of
the
street
I
mean.
C
And
in
Contra
as
a
another
aspect
of
this
stuff,
by
splitting
this
lot,
you
you're,
saying:
okay,
we're
gonna,
make
this
more
amenable
somebody
in
the
front
part
of
it.
That's
one
story:
house
divider,
whoever
buys
that
by
definition,
requested
lot
has
been
split
and,
in
theory,
can
be
sold
in
two
different
portions.
They
have
no
control
over
their
backyard,
their
backyard
that
has
a
two-story
triplex
in
the
backyard.
E
Yeah
but
again,
but
again
the
rental
in
the
back.
If
you
notice
it's
entirely
fenced
off,
I
mean
so
so
again,
it'd
be
like
I
mean
if
you
had,
for
example,
the
there
are
homes
over
here
on
Stimson
Avenue
here
in
and
in
Athens
I
mean,
which
are
that
r1
Street
north
of
stem
is
Stimpson,
I
mean,
and
they
basically
back
up
the
alley
and
then
they
back
up
to
all
a
bunch
of
commercial
buildings.
I
mean
I
mean,
but
I
mean
all
of
them.
E
Basically,
the
commercial
buildings
on
the
one
side
and
as
well
as
the
homes
on
the
street
north
of
there
all
have
basically
an
alleyway
as
well
as
a
fencing
along
the
back,
so
I
mean
again.
So
it's
a
certain
extent.
You
know
you
have
that,
on
the
other
hand,
by
the
fencing
I
mean
and
the
and
and
things
face
out
on
one
Street
know
those
things
based
on
the
other.
E
Street
I
mean
I
think
you've
that
that's
not
as
bad
as
maybe
it
might
sound
and
actually
I
mean
you
and
what
once
somebody
lives
there
I
mean
yo
their
their
thought
is
I
mean
I,
live
on
First,
Street
and
I
really
don't
think
at
all
about
what
what's
behind
me
I
know:
I
I
grew
up
in
a
in
a
development
up
in
in
Columbus
and
basically
a
weap
and
I
guess
the
reason
I
don't
think
much
about
it
is
we
had
a
similar
type
of
thing?
I
mean
ours
are
Street.
Basically.
E
That
was
one
Street
north
of
what
they
refer
to
as
old
route,
40,
which
in
Columbus
is
Main,
Street
I
mean
so
Main.
Street,
obviously,
is
one
of
the
most
commercial
streets
and
the
City
of
Columbus,
but
I
mean
going
on
our
Street,
which
was
just
simply
one
Street.
North
I
mean
I,
mean
everybody
thought
of
it
as
residential,
even
though
I
mean
yet.
E
You
could
hear
the
traffic
going
up
and
down
old
route
40
at
least
and
I'm
old
enough
vintage
that
I
remember
actually
before
there
were
expressway,
so
I
mean
no
I
mean
you
had
major
traffic
up
and
down
there.
So
again
to
me,
it
makes
it
much
more
of
a
residential
field,
even
though
again
you're
right.
It
is
only
fencing.
That's
around
there.
E
Again
again,
my
thought
would
be,
as
is
if
somebody
buys,
though,
the
lot
in
the
front
I
mean
they're.
Always
gonna
basically
want
to
have
that
as
a
single-family
residence.
Just
like
the
Donna
Jones
lot,
108
is
next
door,
I
mean
you
know
it
really
doesn't
lend
itself
to
any
other
type
of
purpose
and
then
obviously
the
lot,
the
part
of
it
in
the
back,
which
is
a
triplex
I
mean
it's
always
going
to
be
an
apartment.
Building
I
mean
you
know
again.
E
D
E
Also
be
the
first
to
realize
that
forecasting
the
future
is
not
a
a
significant
suit
of
mine,
so
I
mean
you
know,
I
mean.
Is
it
possible
that
someday,
if
there's
a
lot
more
development
in
the
plains
area,
that
development
can
come
this
way
down
first
or
even
happen
yeah,
but
it
might
I
would
say
that
would
be
many
many
years
from
now.
It
would
be
my
anticipation.
E
C
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
which
way
is
better
yeah,
I,
look
and
say:
I
could
see
somebody
buying
this
with
the
idea
that
this
you
know
the
the
triplex
in
the
back.
Becomes
there
the
cash
cattle
or
that
I
don't
know
what
hock
you
can
see.
It
runs
or
anything
like
that,
but
I
do
see
that
they'd
have
more
control
over
the
back
in
terms
of
putamen
says
they
as
a
residential
area,
I
mean
if
your
person
fronts
out
is
going
to
be
buying
for
residential
purposes.
Yeah.
E
C
But
they
will
I
see
this
in
duplexes.
In
my
neighborhood
on
the
west
side,
you
have
a
duplex
where
somebody
who
lives
on
one
side
of
you
know
one
side
of
the
duplex
yeah
rents,
the
other
side.
So
therefore
they
actually
menteng
there
or
supplementing
their
mortgage.
The
tendency
is,
is
that
they
don't
the
next
door
of
their
duplex
does
not
get
blood
parties,
because
that
was
living
right
next
door
or
landlady.
In
some
cases,.
D
C
We
split
this
I
could
see
where
now
you
have
somebody
in
the
front
who
all
they
can
do
is
go
to
the
vinyl
fence
and
shake
their
fists.
No
I'll
call
the
sheriff
I
guess,
whereas
if
they
do
this
as
an
investment,
an
onus
and
again
we're
really
what
we're
looking
at
there's
a
variance
in
place
here
right.
E
C
It
has
to
be
weighed
with
the
adjacent
properties
which
are
also
of
a
similar
size
or
small
size,
but
I
can
see
if
somebody
says
we
wanna
buy
this.
They
now
have
control
of
their
environment
a
little
bit
more.
They
cost
them.
What
to
do
that?
Yeah.
Okay,
say
they
have
more
than
just
shaking
our
fists
over
the
vinyl
fence
and.
E
Then-
and
that
will
be
true-
I
mean,
however,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
the
type
of
thing
worth
I
mean
usually
when
you
have,
as
I
said,
that
type
of
building
I
mean.
Usually
what
happens
is
on
a
single-family
residence
I
mean
he
is
either.
As
you
said,
I
mean
the
owner
intends
to
live
in
one
part
of
the
duplex
or
basically
they
have
a
larger
home,
and
then
you
have
have
smaller
homes
appended
to
it
here.
Basically,
you
know
the
the
triplex
that
isn't
back
is
actually
much
bigger.
E
C
B
C
C
E
Yeah
I
mean
obviously
what
we
want
to
do
is
I'm
in
a
minute,
as
matter
of
fact,
mudra
I
haven't
spoken
with
the
people
since
then,
but
after
the
foreclosure
action
started,
the
folks
that
actually
lived
next
door
said
you
know
we
want
to
try
and
take
care
of
this
issue,
because
we
know
our
it's
like
a
cement
pad.
That's
there
basically
extends
across
I
mean
so
obviously
our
thought
was
we're.
Gonna
do
once,
but
let's
let's
try
and
talk
about
both
of
them
I'm.
E
B
Speaking
with
the
next-door
neighbors
that
have
the
encroachment
all
three
of
those
Lots
were
owned
by
the
same
family,
we
have
one
time
and
I
think
I
told
you
to
they.
It
said
something
about
this.
This
row,
peonies,
we
thought
was
a
property
line,
but
it
wasn't.
But
people
didn't
you
know
if
it
was
the
granddaughter
and
the
grandmother
that
was
not
a
problem
and
with
no
building
regulations
or
zoning
regulations
and
the
plains.
There's
nobody
even
there
to
to
check
that
out.
A
C
A
E
We
would
basically
go
ahead
and
and
and
do
that
yeah
I
mean
cuz
I'm
in
the
end,
they
beg
you
know,
as
I
said,
I
have
not
talked
with
him
recently,
but
again,
even
direct.
We
was
surly
out
there
after
the
foreclosure
was
filed.
They
be
as
I
said.
If
we
want
to
take
care
of
that
next,
video
I
mean
you
know,
wait
until
we
actually
own
it
and
then
we'll
try
and
take
care
of
that
yeah.
E
So
again,
that
was
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
do
is
transfer
that
to
these
folks
and
they've
already
indicated
they
have
wanted
it.
However,
I
can
I'm
like
sit
here
and
and
say:
I
mean
that
they
have
talked
with
them.
I
know,
I
haven't
talked
with
him
since
the
first
year,
but
I
want
to
say
it
was
like
in
about
October
September
of
last
year
that
we
talked
about
with
the
Pope
this.
This
other
parcel
a
lot
one
away
and
we've
talked
with
them.
They
said
they
wanted
a
sewing.
A
C
Okay
in
21:02,
oh
three,
a
as
variances
exceptions,
waivers
of
conditions
in
two
states.
This
is
a
where
do
where
do
two
exceptional,
tough
topographical
and
other
physical
conditions
of
Planning
Commission
finds
extraordinary
NSA
hardship
may
result
in
a
strict
application
of
these
regulations.
Other
purpose
of
these
regulations
may
be
served
to
a
great
extent
by
an
alternative
proposal,
and
maybe,
if
it
may
recommend
to
council
the
approve
out
variances
exceptions,
waivers
of
conditions
provided
that
they
will
not
be
a
dimension
detriment
to
public
health,
safety,
welfare
or
interest
to
other
properties.
C
A
B
D
A
A
A
C
A
B
D
G
C
B
At
the
last
Planning
Commission
meeting,
I
had
just
kind
of
alluded
in
general
to
a
development
project
that
I
thought
might
be
coming
through.
I
described,
its
combination
of
uses
and
I've
just
got
a
query
whether
it
would
be
considered
under
title
41,
site
plan
review
or
under
21:09
Planned
Unit
development.
B
D
B
A
C
A
C
B
A
C
B
C
B
You
mean
parking
underneath
right
there.
This
retail
is
a
ground
level.
These
cars
at
apartment,
those
two
apartments
right.
There
are
at
ground
level
on
Palmer
with
cars
underneath
and
then
it's
like
this
everything
just
stacks
over
top.
So
it's
partly
occupied
and
partly
pardon
there's
a
breakdown
over
here
in
the
corner
on
the
number
of
tenants,
yeah.
A
B
Well,
right
now,
there's
parking
all
down:
Palmer
Street
right
here,
that's
public
and
there's
parking
out
on
the
street.
Also,
that's.
B
B
B
It's
a
B,
3
business
son
residential
use
on
the
first
floor
is
another
deep
deviation
from
the
building
is
four
stories
tall.
We're
three
and
a
half
stories
is
the
maximum.
It
is
less
than.
A
C
B
A
C
B
So
right
now,
for
example,
at
the
code
officers
I'm
just
doing
single-family
homes,
duplexes
accessory
structures,
those
things
that
that
are
exempted
in
41,
one
of
the
exemptions
and
41
are
Planned
Unit
development,
all
right,
and
so
both
of
those
then
are
under
the
initial
purview
of
the
Planning
Commission
site.
Plan
review
is
contained.
It's
a
review
within
the
planning
commission,
Planned
Unit
development
is
a
review
and
recommendation
by
Planning
Commission.
That
then
goes
to
Council
in
site
plan
review
variances
go
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
a
Planned
Unit
development.
C
B
The
definition
of
Planning
development
and
the
subdivision
regulations
is
a
combination
of
residential
and
commercial
uses,
which
is
the
case
here.
It
is
a
combination
depending
on
how
you
look
at
it.
It's
all
one
large
building,
but
Planned
Unit
development
I
believe,
could
occur
in
one
large
building.
B
A
A
A
The
laundry
would
be
what
happens
to
the
parking
for
the
pharmacy
and
does
that
go
away.
It.
E
C
B
A
A
C
A
Yes,
so
it
seems
that
if
I
mean
it
seems
that
if
there's
only
one
variance
than
a
site
plan
review,
it
would
make
sense.
But
when
you
start
getting
multiple
variances,
then
it
would
make
more
sense
to
go
through
a
PUD
process,
because
it
just
that
way,
everything's
more
holistically,
planned
for
the
whole
process
and.
B
C
G
A
B
The
next
step
in
the
process,
the
code
says,
is
a
pre-application
meeting
with
the
developer
is
to
discuss
with
them
in
an
early
and
informal
manner
all
the
requirements
of
the
code.
So,
for
example,
as
you
mentioned,
landscaping
tree
Commission
I'll
check
to
make
sure
there
are
in
a
flood
damage
prevention
right.
B
B
So
this
next
step
is
kind
of
just
to
give
the
developer
an
overall
picture
of
all
the
concerns
that
the
city
might
have,
and
then
they
proceed
through
the
application
process,
which
is
pre
application,
approval
preliminary
approval,
and
then
you
have
to
come
back
with
another
set
of
information
for
final
approval,
public
hearing
and
recommendation
of
counsel.
That
kind
of
thing
by
the
time
we
get
to
preliminary
application.
I'll
have
a
checklist
for
you,
just
like
the
one
I
generated
for
title
41
I'm.
B
B
Informal,
it
just
says
early
and
informal,
now
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
past
they've,
it's
been
done
a
couple
different
ways,
but
more
often
than
not
it's
an
open
meeting.
Just
like
this.
It
doesn't
say
that
has
to
be
a
public
meeting.
It
just
says
that
you
mean
but
I
think
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
past
at
least
has
wanted
to
have
available
to
everyone
all
the
information.
So
everyone
knows
what's.
B
B
G
B
B
A
C
A
C
A
Okay,
I
went
there's
a
an
interesting
website
that
you
can
go
to
that.
Has
you
probably
know
of
this
team
that
has
all
the
codes
for
60
or
70
cities
and
out
in
Ohio,
mm-hmm
and
I
did
a
search
for
a
restaurant
at
the
starless
restaurant?
So
here
are
some
of
the
examples
that
I
got
from
different
I
tried
to
get
cities
that
were
like
US
and
cities
that
weren't
like
us,
and
some
of
them
had
no
mention
of
restaurant,
and
these
are
the
ones
I
found.
A
I
did
do
bar
and
not
very
many
of
them
had
bar
as
a
definition,
except
for
a
handle
bar
is
illegal
to
ride
on
on
a
bicycle,
and
then
it
also
has
the
drivin
definitions
of
what
a
drive-in,
because
I
know
that
that
would
came
up
in
in
the
part
of
the
section
that
we
were
looking
at
on
amending
some
of
the
words
that
were
crossed
out.
We
had
actually
said
drivin
in
Roadhouse
and
those
sort
of
things.
So
so
you
can.
A
A
G
G
A
C
So
in
terms
of
a
temporary
sign,
I
think
to
how
we
have
it
right
now
for
special
event:
signs
it's
like
one
month,
four
times
a
year
or
four
months:
total:
okay,
okay,
if
I'm
members
correcting
this,
so
really
that's
the
duration
as
you're,
saying
right.
Okay,
the
other
one
you
see
in
terms
of
a
real
estate
sign,
which
is
goes
up
and
stays
up
until
two
weeks.
After
closing,
yes,
but
that's
not
a
that's,
not
a
closing
date,
that's
a
condition
that
changes
the.
C
B
D
A
D
B
Get
that
to
you
again:
that's
a
have
Supreme
Court
case
that
addresses
temporary
signs,
in
particular
political
signs,
but
it
does
draw
the
whole
thing
in
I
also
have
some
information
about
it's
like
just
like
a
federal
think-tank
about
a
center
for
legal
services.
That
means
got
some
kind
of
name.
I
can
give
you
that
information
too.
It's
a
very
good
explanation
of
how
you
have
to
be
content-neutral
time
neutral,
not
not
to
violate
anyone's
First.
B
C
B
Another
word
yeah:
what
I'm
saying
is
the
content
of
the
sign
cannot
drive
how
you
treat
it
yeah,
no
matter
what
the
sign
says,
you
have
to
treat
them
all
in
the
same
man
and
as
best
you
can
so,
but
then
there
are
differences
too,
for
example,
and
in
a
particular
case
here
locally.
It
was:
is
this
sign
an
off-site
advertising
sign,
or
is
this
sign
a
temporary
real
estate
sign
and
that's.
D
B
Was
kind
of
the
crux
of
the
issue
now
the
City
prevailed
in
that
case,
and
it
was
determined
that
signs
on
properties
that
advertised
a
management
company
or
an
owner
at
a
different
site
was
advertising
for
the
business.
But
then
there's
an
explanation
in
the
decision
about
temporary
limited
period
of
time,
real
estate
signs
and
that's
when
language
on
a
lot
of
these
signs
change
from
managed
by
to
for
rent
based
on
their
reading
of
the
court
decision.
So.
D
B
There's
some
things
that
the
city
has
in
common
with
other
with
court
decisions
in
other
jurisdictions
and
federally,
then
we
have
kind
of
a
local
the
local
spend
to
it
to
that
will
have
to
be
incorporated
and
because
I
know,
a
lot
of
people
are
very
concerned
about
these
types
of
signs.
Are
they
temporary
real
estate
signs
or
are
they
permanent
business
advertising
signs
where
the
place
is
permanently
for
rent
right?
B
B
B
A
D
A
B
So
if
you'd
like
get
a
hold
of
Law
Director
on
the
vote,
count
oh
yeah.