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So
again,
those
are
just
an
additional
thing
that
needs
attention.
Beyond
what
I'd
mentioned
in
my
letter,
okay
I've
had
discussion
with
some
people
to
about
you,
know
the
procedure,
but
because
I
recommended
you
at
the
last
meeting.
I
think
this
is
a
project
that
best
fits
under
title
21:09
plan
unit
development.
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A
Not
count
on
street
parking,
okay,
you
know
that
could
be
a
consideration.
There
is
some
available
there,
but
that's
not
included
in
the
can
I
know.
Some
people
have
raised
the
question
that,
because
some
on
street
parking
has
been
indicated
on
the
plan,
you
know
it's
not
possible
to
count
that,
and
the
answer
is
yes,
you
cannot
count
it.
It
is
public
parking,
okay,.
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E
E
In
fact,
I
have
some
drawings
with
me
that
renderings
they
have
a
date
of
2003
the
other
time
we
we
were
able
to
build
something
there,
but
we
had
the
nonprofit
organization
of
running
from
us.
The
building
and
we
didn't
have
the
courage
to
say-
or
we
make
a
decision
not
to
ask
him
to
leave,
so
we
can
put
something
there.
E
The
this
idea
I've
been
working
on
it
for
a
long
long
time
and
then,
finally,
the
new
you
found
what
they
thought:
a
better
location
and
they
went
someplace
else
and
that
building
became
vacant
I
had
many
people
that
they
wanted
to
rent
it.
The
businesses
that
they
are
interested
in
the
building,
because
it
is
the
proximity
to
their
to
their
town
and
what
is
really
the
main
customers
for
their
town,
which
is
usually
the
students
everybody
that
the
protests
were
to
do
something
that's
similar
to
Uptown.
E
There
will
be
a
restaurants,
bars
coffee
shop
and
we
got
information
that
at
one
time
that
Tim
Hortons
was
looking
the
area
we
spent
thousands
of
dollars
to
making
a
plan
that
will
be
appealing
to
Tim
Horton
to
get
Tim
Horton
there,
and
that
is
very
recently.
As
a
result,
the
plans
was
including
what
mr.
coin
banker
lászló
coin
pocket
had
designing:
nearly
2,000,
late,
90s
and,
and
we
presented
to
present
it
to
the
Tim
Hortons.
Well.
E
We
will
sell
doughnuts
out
of
the
place
if
somebody
wants
to
sell
doughnuts
which
been
classified
food
or
any
other
type
of
a
food
out
of
the
place.
We
can
sell
it.
In
fact,
I
think
law
says
something
about
not.
You
cannot
serve
with
drinks
or
food
out
of
the
place.
Now
that
leaves
the
place
to
be
available
to
somebody
that
doesn't
sell
food
or
drinks,
and
so
gonna
have
to
be
some
kind
of
retailer
or
somebody
that
is
they
looking
for
an
office
business
to
put
an
office
there.
E
Now
the
retailer
has
been
taken
care
by
Walmart.
Our
loss
has
been
written,
a
lot
of
them
before
Walmart
came
to
Athens
Ohio
that
was
written
before
Athens
Ohio
had
more
less
I'm
sorry
than
the
present
over
250,000
square
feet
of
commercial
property.
Md,
you
guys
can
look
there
town,
you
can
see
how
many
thousands
of
square
feet
of
commercial
space
is
vacant
on
the
most
prime
location
of
Athens
uptown
this
or
if
it
is
a
question
about
which
is
the
most
plan:
business
location
in
town.
E
You
got
to
the
next
biggest
private
today
to
the
next
big
commercial
space,
which
is
their
azzam
at
the
university
mall,
whatever
is
being
called,
and
you
can
see
that
two-thirds
of
that
more
and
more
number-
and
there
are
might
be
very
conservative,
wanna,
say
2/3
that
mall
is
vacant,
and
so
I
have
a
property
that
will
add
to
that
to
another
250,000
square
feet
of
commercial
space,
and
I
cannot
relate
to
anybody.
I
cannot
relate
to
somebody.
Beef
will
sell
doughnuts
out
of
the
place.
E
E
The
rent
of
that
play
is
going
to
be
a
lot
more
than
even
after
a
bill
disappointments.
If
I
build
these
apartments,
I
will
be
able
to
clear
because
at
that
point
are
going
to
become
the
clerk
for
the
bank.
I
have
to
borrow
millions
of
dollars
to
do
that
and
until
the
bank
is
being
paid
off
very
little
gonna
stay
behind.
Okay.
Well,
this
place
right
now
it
is
a
nice
commercial
property
that,
if
they're
lost,
were
common
sense
because
I
believe
it's
not
common
sense.
One
said
you
have
b3,
but
you
cannot
put.
E
You
cannot
sell
it
on
atop,
your
b3
property.
Okay.
If
their
loans
were
in
the
common
sense,
this
problem
will
be
rented
and
I
will
try
to
do
something
else
with
the
property.
Okay,
now
Baker's
have
no
chooses
and
I
have
used
that
before
I
have
a
have
obligations
to
my
employees.
There
are
many
families
making
the
living
or
from
my
for
my
businesses,
I
have
applications
to
my
banks.
I
have
obligation
to
my
family
I,
don't
gonna
go
bankrupt
just
because
the
city
after
about
the
b3
and
I
was
allowed
to
do
things.
E
So
we
are
here
today
now
when
the
mayor
took
the
office,
which
we
support
him,
and
we
because
we
like
the
change,
we
want
to
see
change
on
there,
not
no
sense
laws
like
they
want
to
keep
on
saying
b3
that
you
cannot
sell.
Donuts,
okay
and
the
mayor
make
a
point.
I
was
not
in
town
that
time,
but
I
read
a
newspaper.
The
thing
was
Arthur's
news
and
maybe
was
a
report
from
Nick.
That's
been
sitting
mr.
Nicklaus
there.
E
The
mayor
Scott,
was
always
not
what
the
city
has
as
it
was.
The
VA
was
not
his
vision
or
the
city's
vision
to
see
an
adulterer
detainment
going
there.
Neither
what
the
university
has
and
I'm
paraphrasing
you
wrong
on
that,
but
it
is
part
of
what's
been
the
newspaper
when
I
saw
that
you
know
that
man-
and
it
says
you
know
well
that's
what
I
wanted.
E
That's
what
I
have
this
vision
and
that's
my
vision
that
have
been
working
with
the
same
vision
of
the
mayor
Doc's,
the
same
mission
of
the
university
has
have
been
working
since
early
early
2000s
and
late
and
I
mean
I've
been
working
about
for
over
10
years.
Okay,
so
I
took
a
picture
that
the
architects
had
spent
thousands
of
dollars
for
the
architects
to
do
I,
don't
know
the
correct
word,
for
it
is
when
you
design
a
drive
and
then
you
go
and
take
a
picture
of
the
actually
location
and
then
your
fur
and
paws.
E
E
This
piece
of
paper
right
there
for
given
drawings,
is
over
$1,500,
just
a
piece
of
paper
and
already
have
it.
I
had
it
months
before
any
of
that
studied,
and
that
is
part
of
the
drawings
that
mr.
connection,
the
company,
panics
and
law
might
not
work
with.
That
was
really
from
the
original
design
that
mr.
Coe
had
done
almost
ten
years
ago
or
the
picture
you
can
see
they
actually
they.
Actually,
there
are
actual
sidewalk.
E
E
E
E
Well,
that's
basically
the
story
so
without
going
to
admit
details
and
everything
else
has
happened
and
a
lot
of
you
I'll
have
to
speed
on
everything
else.
Now.
One
thing
I
need
to
meet.
One
thing:
I
need
to
really,
and
nothing
is
important
when,
before
I
went
to
the
mayor,
I
had
called
one
of
the
council
members
that
are
not
very
well
and
I
will
not
say
names
just
to
you
know
in
a
sense,
you
know
the
frustrates
me
that
the
city
has
a
vision
and
the
vision
is
the
same
vision.
E
B
E
Matches
and
I
thought
this
gentleman
says:
well,
he
deserves
credit
Shani
to
Turkish
I
mean
it
was
a
bill,
bias
and
I
say
bill
I
mean
I,
don't
believe
it.
Everybody
has
a
vision,
but
everybody
has
time
my
hands
and
and
not
a
smile,
but
every
other
business
person
in
town
and
we
have
to
go
through
a
bunch
of
Hoops
just
to
do
what
the
city
has
to
do
and
India
says
you
know
the
Middle
East
don't
give
up.
E
You
need
to
call
some
of
the
people
that
they're
involved
in
spoken
about
what's
going
on
and
maybe
then
you
know,
maybe
after
they
realize
what
your
vision
is
or
was
for
a
long
time.
Maybe
we
we
can
go,
you
can
go
someplace,
so
he
encouraged
me
and
that's
as
a
result
of
how
Bill's
encouragement
is
when
I
make
the
call
to
the
mayor
and
then
we,
the
part
that
already
have
told
you
I
forgot
to
tell.
E
Was
they
how
I
got
to
even
think
that
anybody
will
listen?
Okay
and
so
I'm
very
thankful
to
you
guys
that
you
are
listening
today,
no
matter
what
the
decision
gonna
be?
Okay,
now,
let's
go
to
the
manager
of
the
project.
The
project
on
on
this
picture
was
done
again
many
years
ago.
The
original
idea
how
the
tall
roof
wasn't
really
to
put
any
commercial
space
on
the
bottom.
Hey
back
then
was
designed
when
the
original
design
was
when
we
were
one
parking,
pet
apartment
and
I
will
get
us
back
to.
E
E
Down
we
have
people
from
our
town,
doing
it
on
170,
we
have
some
other
business
people
doing
it
on
another
side
of
our
town
and
they're
gonna
cut
in
the
hill,
cutting
the
trees
down
the
level
in
the
hill,
and
they
put
apartments
there
or
whatever
they
want
to
develop
it.
Well,
if
you
cannot
develop,
then
the
town,
what
we're
gonna
go
this
time
tomorrow,
we
cannot
be
like
another
politician
has
caught
or
a
city
official
and
over
the
using
I,
don't
name
a
name,
but
the
person
said
we
need
to
start.
E
The
only
way
we
can
take
care
of
the
parking
is
by
getting
the
university
to
to
go
down
to
16,000
students.
Well,
what
do
we
tell
the
university
to
live
and
then
you
know
we
won't
find
a
place
to
live,
so
that's
not
a
mentality.
The
mentality
is
Tom,
gonna
drown
and
let's,
let's
get
with
the
idea
that
the
plans
gonna
grow
and
if
we
have,
if
we
have
a
vision,
let's
help
the
people
that
they
were
not
vision
to
make.
It
happen.
E
Okay,
now,
when
I
win
today
and
when
I
did
this
drawing,
we
need
the
drawing
that
these
pictures
result
of
they.
The
commercial
space,
wasn't
quite
as
bad,
but
it
was
very
obviously
this
face
when
I
get
back
because
the
government
was
in
there
was
already
here
or
was
to
be.
It
was
getting
to
be
here
getting
ready
to
be
here
to
come
here.
They,
the
parking
was
enough
to
do
it,
but
now
it's
not
because
we
did
change
the
laws.
E
Meantime
in
the
lawsuit
right
now
requiring
1:1
parking
for
each
tenant,
which
is
a
big
difference
from
one
parking
per
apartment
back
then
we
had
a
lot
more
parking
issues,
because
you
know
with
some
smart
ordinance.
We
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
parking,
including
the
parking
uptown,
but
it
is
plenty
spaces
right
now
uptown
to
park.
Even
if
the
police
has
closed
half
of
the
list
rate
because
of
a
bomb
threat
and
people
had
to
park,
someplace
else
still
is
planning
places
in
town.
E
The
the
parking
at
the
partners
always
has
available
spaces.
You
guys
wish
that
all
the
time-
and
you
see
it
so
the
issue
is
not
quite
as
bad
as
used
to
be,
but
when
we
change
the
road
that
we
need,
one
for
each
tenant,
I
believe
that
we
should
say
depends
where
you
live.
How
many
parking
you
need
to
have
per
tent?
E
If
you
are
uptown,
they
were
we
doing
most
of
our
business
with
a
family
tenants.
Customers
would
have
in
common
many
of
their
town,
kids
coming
to
you.
They
are
not
having
vehicles
by
the
city.
We
will
require
like
one
who
did
the
church,
who
tell
it
to
apartments
when
we
did
tell
me
bathroom
some
forest,
a
street
which
is
right
as
close
as
you
can
get
car
straight,
for
what
we
have,
we
will
require
to
have
one
parking
spot
tenant.
E
Well,
we
do
have
this
package
pass,
but
we
don't
have
enough
the
terms
of
have
enough
courage
to
fill
this
parking
spot,
because
that's
the
reason
that
they
ran
in
our
town.
So
they
don't
have
to
walk
the
father
and
mother
parents.
They
want
their
kids
to
be
close
to
the
town
and
the
pay
the
premium.
So
the
kids
want
to
be
close
to
school
and
the
kids
say
they
have
the
same
goal.
E
They
want
to
be
close
to
Uptown
because
it
would
be
close
to
the
bars
okay,
but
the
fact
is
that
everybody
was
to
be
first
out
of
town,
so
they
don't
have
to
drive
so
therefore,
many
of
them
don't
bring
in
a
car.
If
they're
going
to
be
five
people
in
the
house
and
one
or
two
driving,
then
the
others
don't
have
to
bring
the
car
because
they
know
nobody
gonna
give
them
a
right
to
cross
or
whatever
it
is
now,
when
you
have
a
property
like
that,
you
have
on
original
Avenue
on
original
Avenue.
E
C
E
So
then
people
like
me,
although
rental
property
required
by
the
city
to
have
tell
parking
spots
for
10
bedrooms,
are
really
distant
letters
only
using
one
or
two
of
the
parking
spots
of
town,
but
you
can
see
a
record
as
any
language
that
has
that
property,
the
rents
of
town
and
the
remaining
is
been
rented
to
people
who
live
in
further
away.
Okay.
So
what
I'm
saying
it
is
unfair
to
say
that
a
hundred
percent
of
our
tenants
have
cars
that
is
really.
E
It
is
ridiculous,
it's
as
ridiculous
me
coming
here
and
telling
you
0%
of
our
tenants
have
cars.
You
don't
want
to
believe
me,
but
if
I
come
here
and
tell
you
that
a
hundred
percent
of
my
tenants
have
a
cars,
you
should
believe
me
either,
but
you
make
me
or
make
all
of
us
to
create,
create
a
giant
parking
lot
in
the
city
of
X
and
that's
what
stiffs
are
not
me.
Gonna
be
with
my
place,
no
matter
what
my
place
happens
or
what
doesn't
gonna
happen.
My
place.
E
E
Unofficially
speaking
to
people,
including
zip
cars,
zip
cars
is
for
the
people
who
don't
know
it
is
a
car
that
has
been
parked
in
a
public
place
and
anybody
as
long
they
have
pre-qualified
ourselves
with
a
company.
They
have
some
kind
of
a
electronic
key.
You
go
by
the
car
you
on
the
windshield
of
the
car.
You
move
the
cars
around
again
so
that
electronic
key,
the
car
locks
itself
you're
going
in
you,
put
your
credit
card
or
the
key
in
the
car,
the
cursor
timing,
you
and
you
do
whatever
you're
going
to
do.
E
You
bring
card
the
card
back
to
the
same
spot
and
the
card
print
your
receipt.
You
walk
away
in
the
car
locks
itself
until
the
next
customer
gets
there.
Okay,
a
lot
of
universities
are
using
these
zip
cars
or
see
current
concern,
including
MIT.
An
RMIT
has
done
Studies
on
it.
Ohio
State
University
will
be
the
closest
in
the
talkin
thing.
E
E
C
E
I'm
not
proportionate
right
now,
okay,
but
I
would
like
to
have
it
as
an
idea
that
you
guys
can
look
at
or
I.
Don't
know
what
is
the
the
right
body
to
to
to
look
this
idea,
because
that
zip
car
will
eliminate
a
lot
of
the
problem.
E
The
reason
we
you
have,
the
regulations
that
you
have
to
work
with
is
because
the
pressure
is
because
of
the
parking
issues
and
I'm
just
giving
you
a
an
improving
answer
to
the
problem,
which
I
wouldn't
mind
to
are
to
put
some
zip
cars
on
that
location,
but
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
making
another.
Second
I
don't
want
to
be
a
condition
of
what
I'm
not
doing
I'll.
E
Be
glad,
though,
and
I
like
to
go
on
record
that
I
wouldn't
mind
to
put
zip
cars
in
many
who
mind
to
to
put
as
many
seekers
as
the
city
who
require,
as
long
de
become
cost-effective
and
I
can
put
them
to
the
fairgrounds.
So
people
can
drop
the
car
and
enter
the
zip
up
here.
I
can
put
them
on
regional
Avenue.
E
Only
State
Street
on
uptown
and
I
have
experience
with
Renault
cars
will
be
in
a
rental
car
business
from
you
know,
name
you
years,
but
things
probably
since
94,
so
we've
been
in
a
you
know,
saw
Hamas
experience
at
the
car
and
LS
anybody
and-
and
that
might
be
a
solution
now
that
you
guys
can
require
for
many
for
me
and
other
business
people.
They
want
to
do
something
alone,
but.
C
E
E
E
So
that
building
cannot
make
it
because
that
being
here
is
only
two
floors
in
order
to
stay
under
the
two
floors
above
the
commercial
in
order
to
stay
under
the
45-foot,
the
end,
the
three
and
a
half
requirement
the
thing
I
have
stories
requirement,
so
that's
building
physically.
It
cannot
make
it
if
we
have
to
put
their
stores
now.
Do
you
understand
a
lot
of
people
that
haven't
really
realized
the
economics
of
the
project?
That
would
be
very
hard
to
allow
residential
or
stationary.
B
E
E
E
Mark
Knowles
has
done
a
very
good
job,
he's
breaking
the
building,
so
doesn't
look
one
big
long,
commercial
seat
there
and
he's
breaking
it
in
different
place.
What
are
we
looking
here
thing?
That's
still,
Chinaglia,
okay
and
Steve.
Some
of
milk
has
the
commercial
spaces
fascist
toward
the
goal
erupts
around
and
of
destroying.
You
can
see
it
even
better
and
then
on
ritalin
some
solid
partner.
E
The
percentage
that
is
four
percent
or
whatever
you
know,
two
percent,
if
we're
to
put
two
of
our
partners
on
the
second
floor,
because
the
guard
must
say
that
we
need
to
commercial.
Here
too,
then
we
have
to
have
elevators
for
two
apartments.
Now
that
kills
across
the
theater
again,
so
we
let
you
to
do
to
get
everybody.
As
happens
we
can,
and-
and
now
that
you
are
going
to
your
question-
we
say
the
proposal
for
stores
the
body
that
estate
cause
it.
C
B
E
C
F
Think,
personally,
when
a
lot
of
this
discussion
went
on
during
the
election
and
such
and
we
talked
about
smart
growth,
the
right
I
think
that
this
sort
of
project
is
a
lot
of
what
we
envision.
What
I
envisioned
when,
when
I've
been
in
other
places
that
have
done
more
densely
developed,
is
more
multi
use
is
one
of
the
key
thing.
Pedestrian-Friendly
is
another
one.
F
I
think
that,
for
me,
my
my
vision
and
my
job
is
to
balance
what
you
need
as
a
business
owner
and
a
land
owner
and
those
sort
of
things
with
the
impacts
that's
going
to
occur
to
the
neighbors
into
the
city,
so
I
think.
That's
one
reason
why
we
wanted.
Why
I
thought
personally,
that
this
would
be
better
in
repeat
even
a
slight
review
plan,
because.
B
E
F
They
said
that
parking
was
still
a
big
issue.
She
said
it
was
like
going
back
to
the
future,
so
so
that's
what's
been
with
us
for
a
long
time
and
it's
a
challenge
trying
to
figure
out
the
parking
issue.
I
think
that
that's
a
huge
issue
right
now
with
this
so
I'm
I,
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
have
you
feel
that
the
city
is
here
to
you
know,
put
a
huge
stomach
blocks
in
front
of
you,
but
you
know:
aren't
one
of
our
roles
is
to
help
mediate.
You
know
the
impacts
and
stuff
alright.
E
F
C
F
E
E
E
B
B
E
E
This
parking
spot
here.
Well,
that's
a
good
point
right
here
on
this
park
is
right
here
right
over
here's,
a
cell
hydrant
the
right
be
next
Academy.
Is
that
then,
that
pen,
it
is
about
two
feet,
my
pocket!
You
know
this
parking
that
we
say
the
city
parking
is
not
a
city
parking,
two
feet
of
the
parking.
If
I
put
here,
listen,
okay,
that
is
on
my
property.
Okay,
now
the
city
is
been
using
that
for
as
many
years
have
been
in
in
Athens
since
74,
okay,.
D
E
This
is
my
property
to
pay
taxes
to
this
point
here:
okay
and
the
city's
been
parking
cars
or
another
city,
I
mean
you
know,
and
our
customers
for
our
businesses,
but
he
fells,
where
it
maybe
put
a
ban
and
maybe
for
whatever
it
is,
but
this
is
a
public
parking
what
you
really
wanna
fight
there.
Your
front
two
tires
on
my
property.
Now
my
question
is
to
you
to
this
body
is.
Can
you
please
give
me
credit
for
my
percentage
of
this
parking?
E
E
E
And
I'm
not
expecting
but
I'm
saying
in
reality
if
he
was
to
curate
this
package,
but
like
we
done
in
the
rest
of
town
with
parking
meters,
you
shouldn't
be,
you
know,
I
can
put
the
fence,
they
say
this
is
not.
You
cannot
park
there
right
I.
Have
it
done
I,
don't
want
to
do
it,
but
I'm
saying
no
reality
that
that's
the
truth,
okay
and
I'm,
not
saying
you
have
to
do
it!
That's
why
I'm
here,
okay,
I'm,
asking
just
something
to
consider?
Okay,
if
I'm
already
you.
B
E
D
E
We
have
it
because
here
what
happens
right
now,
if
you
have
the
packing
error,
then
the
sidewalk
it
is
on
that
property.
Okay,
not
on
the
right
away,
is
the
sidewalk
okay
and
now
that
cycle
can
be
nicer:
okay,
but
okay,
but
it
is
not
only
that
the
20%
of
the
curve
is
there,
but
also
the
sidewalk.
It
is
on
my
property
right
now.
Okay,
so
I
would
like
to
trade
a
little
bit
here.
You
know
say
well.
Can
you
please
give
me
credit
for
what
I'm
providing?
E
E
In
and
gone
with
my
plan,
you
have
everything
taking
care
and
you
have
this
parking
spots
there.
Without
my
plan,
these
participants,
don't
gonna,
be
there,
but
the
same
time.
I
cannot
get
the
credit
for
them,
but
the
only
reason
these
parking
spots
are
there
is
because
you
know,
because
we
are
having
to.
E
E
E
Only
on
this
point
you
know
we're
talking
about
this
plan
right
now
to
the
sidewalk.
Of
course,
gonna
meet
any
requirements
that
you
know
mr.
Pearson
has
in
his
office
for
the
handicapped.
People
remember
we
do
keep
in
mind,
handicapped
people
that
want
to
put
any
cup
of
our
homes
do
and
they're
gonna
come
in.
You
know:
they're
gonna
come
in
they're
gonna
have
a
nice.
E
In
this
area,
graphemes
too
much
of
an
issue
on
the
sidewalk
right
is
away
from
this
wander.
They
should
be
here
and
then
they're
gonna
be
able
to
go
behind
the
parking
which
again
part
of
it
is
ours.
They're
gonna
be
on
that
property,
they're
gonna
come
out,
and
then
family
gonna
be
on
this.
You
know
half
on
the
street
and
half
whatever
is
going
on.
C
E
This
only
shows
you
first
floor
and
that's
why
this
building
here
it
is
on
that
lines,
and
you
see
the
stills
there,
because
you
can
see
the
parking
that
is
really
more
to
show
the
parking
and
the
footprint
of
the
building
over
here
of
them
are
parking
spots
with
a
garage
doors,
yeah,
okay,
in
the
same
thing
here.
So
this
is
enclosed
parking,
introspective
field,
open
parking
every
other
place.
E
E
B
E
C
E
B
F
It
I,
don't
I,
think
I.
Think
part
of
the
issue
is
some
of
the
when
you
look
at
codes
and
stuff
they're
living
documents-
and
you
know,
there's
always
issues.
One
of
the
challenges
with
the
comprehensive
plan
was
that
there's
been
identification
of
problems
with
the
code.
All
right,
so
I
think
that
you
know
that's
why
the
PUD
process
allows
for
various
and
so
to
allow
for
this.
However,
you
know
you
may
not
be
able
to
rent
retail
right
now.
F
F
Reason
you
know
to
have
one
reason:
one
of
the
driving
forces
with
Smart
Growth
its
to
have
it
so
that
you
have.
You
know
things
that
are
available
in
the
banking
and
you
know,
and
Stimpson
Avenue
can
evolve
into
something:
that's
very
user
friendly
for
the
citizens.
Not
only
you
know
here
the
residents
here,
but
also
the
residents
in
the
east
side
to
be
able
to
go
I
mean
that's.
F
Why
Bob's
was
so
wonderful,
plus
market,
because
you
could
go
and
you
could
you
could
live
without
a
car
all
right,
you
know
now
with
the
demise
about
you
know,
that's
one
thing:
if
you
go
over
into
the
East
Side
neighborhood
and
you
ask
what
do
you
want?
What's
the
best
thing
that
would
make
your
life?
Wonderful?
Is
a
grocery
store,
the
nice
size
of
a
decent.
F
E
E
E
C
E
E
B
E
B
E
D
E
E
A
month
for
this
building
and
I'm
gonna
tell
me
well,
the
city
is
in
the
process
of
changing
a
lot,
but
meantime
I
told
1215
tenants
that
I
cannot
read
it
to
you,
because
the
city
is
and
dice.
It
comes
down
to
another
thing
that
I
have
a
personal
eraser.
There
isn't
that
me
and
I
think
other
people
voted
for
a
change,
because.
E
Okay,
we're
fighting
a
war
to
set
up
me.
We
want
democracy
on
their
country.
Okay.
Now.
The
problem
when
somebody
tells
me
I,
would
allow
you
to
do
what
you
want
to
do.
Won't
it
be
three
you
can
sell
Donuts
if
should
not
give
you
permission
and
I'm
think
you're
governor
okay,
that's
no
fair!
Okay,
if
we're
free
people-
and
we
have
the
most
diverse
different
business
place
and
I
want
to
put
the
coffee
shop
from
the
most
arrested
in
the
progressive
City
regards
I.
Think
it
is
ridiculous.
B
F
E
F
E
F
F
That's
right,
that's
true,
and
now
that's
a
grandfathering
simulation
so
and
we
have
identified
several
things
that
have
come
up
to
our.
You
know
kind
of
been
shown
to
us
that
some
of
the
things
within
the
code
need
to
be
looked
at
and
that's
a
process
that
that
needs
to
go
through
the
comprehensive
plan
identified,
things
that
need
to
be
looked
at
aligned
stuff.
So
you
know
we
understand
your
difficulty
possible
with
with
the
b3
with
the
restriction
on
restaurants,
ones,
I!
Think
that's
just
it's
it's
an
anomaly
within
the
code
at
this
point
because.
E
F
Changes
that
were
made
several
years
ago,
all
right.
However,
there
are,
there
are
legitimate
reasons
for
having
certain
restrictions
on
things
right
so
I
mean
that's.
Why
we're
here
is
to
try
to
balance
public.
You
know
the
public
benefits
and
public
impacts
with
private
benefits
of
private
and
public.
So
that's
now.
C
One
of
our
functions
is
to
get
plans
and
suggestions
and
requests
from
people
who
want
to
develop
and
recommend
to
City
Council
things
that
need
to
be
changed.
So
it's
it's,
not
a
swift
process,
and
it's
not
that
anybody
can
do
anything
they
want
to,
because
we're
trying
to
have
the
city
grow
in
an
orderly
way
and
develop
in
an
order.
One
of
the
last
things
we
want
is
a
dead
center
of
the
city.
All
right
so
Stimson
Avenue
is
very
important.
E
F
A
That's
a
good
question:
it
well
I
think
it
would
depend
on
accessibility.
You
know
if
you
don't
have
doors
that
cordon
it
off
from
the
outside.
Anybody
could
walk
in
and
do
their
laundry
there's
a
lot
of
places
around.
You
know
where
their
private
laundries,
but
they
have
a
coin
slot
and
there's
really
no
control
of
who
might
go
there
and
use
the
facility.
A
E
E
E
E
And
we're
doing
that,
so
we
have
in
orchards,
maybe
a
bank
to
go
there
by
having
a
transfer
window
or
a
drive-through
restaurant,
and
we
are
still
for
you
know,
for
every
possibility
of
courses,
so
now
here
being
small
in
our
bank,
if
it's
very
good
knowledge
bath
the
cross
different
respect,
if
we
have
one
ran
it,
and
maybe
one
Fiorella
and
the
other
two
do
not
look
like
a
big
massive.
A
thank
you
space
now
being
small
enough
and
I
will
take
any
event
over
no
rent.
Okay,
might.
E
For
somebody
to
be
there,
I
really
don't
know
what
think
you
know
what
but
they're
going
to
be
small
enough
space.
Is
that
doesn't
mean
we
cut
it
down
so
margin
so,
and
we
use
in,
of
course,
the
park
in
the
back
to
make
it
more
affordable
and
have
something
that
other
that's
not
far
out
of
town
a
small
space
is
demand
for
professional.
B
E
E
E
E
D
As
cards
then
angle
likes
a
small
photo
or
you
talking
about
a
flat.
E
F
E
D
D
E
C
E
E
E
F
Would
also
encourage
to
look
at
things.
What
happens
from
what
I've
gotten
from
neighbors
in
the
East
Side
near
East
Side?
Is
that
everything
is
being
you
know,
converted
to
us
to
knit
use.
You
know
all
these
apartments
which
and
then
all
that
it's
it's
you
know
there
are
some
nice
places
you
get
either
very
nice
places
to
eat
like
Stevens,
which
families
can't
use
or
there's
you
know
the
bronies,
which
you
don't
want
to
use,
because
it's
just
too
wild
and
crazy'
having.
F
C
E
E
E
E
E
B
E
Economics
about
this,
the
students
are
here
eight
months
a
year:
okay
and
you
don't
go
and
put
a
business
next
to
a
student
area
that
will
be
for
the
times
people,
because
the
tension
was
supported.
Like
he's
been
happening
on
their
town,
I
mean
he
said,
but
that's
the
reality,
some
people
where
they
go
to
each
day,
Street
well,.
F
E
But
me
I
said:
I
want
to
provide
the
space
I'll
make
it
obviously
I'm
doing
it.
Drive-Through
and
you
know
I
just
finished
making
it
the
students,
remote
area,
don't
really
drive
as
much
and
what
a
town
people
would.
You
know
people
from
uptown
their
way
out
of
town
to
stop
steam
shall
pick
up
their
whatever
it'll
be
their
Chinese.
B
E
E
E
And
unfortunately,
that's
what
they're
looking
you
know
and
you
know
it's
very
hard
to
get
a
retailer,
because
your
retailer
cannot
copy
I
mean
you
know.
We
talked
about
a
long
time
ago,
mr.
Callahan
and
mr.
Music
Center
and
MTV.
There
I
mean
who
do
not
go
and
open
up
anything
like
that
when
you
have
warmer
down
the
street.
E
So
cannot
be
that
type
of
a
business.
It
has
to
be
something
and
we
need
to
invite
them
to
come
in
and
give
them
some
kind
of
breaks
and
you
can
go
through.
You
know
you
can
set
you
to
learn
or
change.
You
know
it
bring
this
type
of
a
business
and
we
reduce
your
taxes
and
in
you,
but
you
have
to
pass
it
on
on
the
rent.
So
then
you
can
say:
I
can
still
pay
my
payment
for
our.
E
E
Now,
what
happened
is
that
not
much
for
party
but
who
really
goes
to
a
place
that
they
needed
even
more
and
they
call
it
a
zip
car,
because,
according
their
mighty
status
you
once
it
comes
for
twenty
parking
spots.
Let's
say
we
don't
want
to
believe
that,
let's
call
it
ten
participants
now
what
there's
nothing
to
do
to
make.
Anybody
must
do
some
like
that.
E
It's
okay,
you
can
do
that,
but
you
need
to
put
one
zip
car
and
I
want
the
zip
car
going
to
paragraphs
because
I
needed
air
more
than
I
needed
here
right,
because
you
do
have
one
parking
spot
for
that.
One
then
point
something
parking
spot
for
apartment
here
and
should
you're
sure
that
was
around.
Maybe
don't
need
as
much
you.
B
E
E
E
E
E
Car
knows
and
doesn't
it
then
the
zip
cars
also
they're
connected
or
I
mean
the
technology
is
with
them
of
course,
they're
very
many
variances,
that
is,
each
cars
connected
via
cell
phone
Google
to
the
main
office.
So
when
the
customer
finishes,
the
customer
has
a
receipt
from
the
power
in
the
main
office
to
get
the
report
in
the
customer
or
business.
E
F
B
E
E
E
E
E
Need
to
be
fair,
because
if
we
really
want
to
fix
the
parking
area,
if
you
want
to
fix
a
parking
problem,
okay,
we
need
to
be
fair
and
to
be
the
fairest
you
have
to
go,
but
we
shown
in
the
city.
We
should
say
this
area
here,
because
it's
the
proximity
to
a
town
and
to
the
university.
We
did
the
study
and
one
every
five
students
have
been
in
a
car,
then
the
requirements.
If
you
build
here's,
what
we
found
now,
let's
go
further
with.
E
If
you
know-
and
we
go
to
the
area
to
say
it
does
going
to
be
one
us
as
a
hundred
percent-
that's
unfair
and
we
need
to
go
through
there.
Liam
says:
okay,
800m
students
have
a
car.
So
now
every
10
students,
you
have
I,
mean
80%
Duty.
Thank
you
percent
budget.
Okay,
not
going
to
fix
a
lot
of
the
problem.
That's
everything
eliminate
the
big
happiness
in
the
city
of
Athens.
That's.
A
C
C
A
The
far
side
of
rollerball,
which
is
down
the
street,
that's
where
the
huge
storm
tunnels
at
so
part
of
the
I
guess
the
reflection
of
water
sewer
department
is
this
project
won't
physically
impact
the
big
storm
tunnel,
but
then
you'd
also
want
some
input
on
what
kind
of
capability
that
do
we
have
in
the
area
because
more
than
likely
catch
basins
in
the
street
and
all
of
the
impervious
surface
is
being
created
will
drain
to
that
tunnel.
So
what
are
the
facility
from
the
site
to
the
tunnel?
I
know.
C
A
For
that,
for
example,
as
you
mentioned
site
plan
review,
is
very
specific
about
that,
because
it
has
a
section
that
talks
about
what's
the
existing
city
infrastructure,
in
other
words,
City.
What
do
you
have
to
provide
the
developer?
The
flip
side
that
has
developer
what
impact
are
you
going
to
have
on
our
existing
system?
And
it
is
a
good
way
to
to
track
areas
that
need
improvement
or
that
have
a
lot
of
additional
capacity,
but
it
could
help
if
you
were
doing
something
getting
toward
creating
impact
fees.
A
Also
because
it's
helping
you
identify
things
that
need
to
be
corrected,
and
once
you
have
an
inventory
of
things
that
are
deficient,
anyone
impacting
that
has
to
help
bring
it
up
at
least
to
a
minimum
standard.
So
it's
a
very
overall,
very
comprehensive,
wide-ranging
program
to
inventory.
But,
like
you
say,
this
is
a
good
bit.
First
start
toward
it.
One.
F
F
C
B
C
C
F
D
Part
of
my
concerns
here,
looking
at
the
list
of
code
variances
deficiencies
that
Steve
put
together
for
the
March
10th
letter,
you
look
at
residential,
proposed
for
ground
floor
and
power.
That,
to
me,
is
not
a
big
deal,
although
it
is
again
it's
it's
a
zoning
issue
there,
which
of
course
applies
to
the
number
to
the
the
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
That
is
a
problem
v1.
We
have
to
deal
with
B
3
s.
We
have
to
deal
with
parking
again:
regardez
Zipcars
payments
to
lose
a
little
parking
spaces.
D
These
are
things
I
want
to
look
at
in
time,
but
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
look
at
it
in
this
section
number
4,
which
is
a
four-story
height.
That's
big
problem
to
me
because
I'm
looking
at
this
as
a
east-west
corridor
and
therefore
these
steps,
instead
of
going
to
see
live
day
for
about
six
months
with
a
4-story,
maybe
less
than
six
months,
but
a
good
light
at
the
time
stalls
I'm
being
shaved
there,
I've
traveled,
I've,
tried
visual
I,
said,
look
at
the
hockey
Valley
Bank
and.
B
F
B
F
E
E
F
E
F
D
In
the
retail
in
the
corner,
I
mean
you're.
Gonna
have
a
drive-thru,
which
is
you
know,
as
well
as
a
parking
area,
so
you
have
residential
parking.
You
have
driving
through
all
the
time,
depending
on
the
hours
of
whatever
business
goes
in
there.
If
she
looked
behind,
I
think
it's
for
an
ally
in
terms
of
buildings
out
still
it's
at
this
point
just.
B
D
There
and
get
a
feel
for
it.
You
know
just
behind
Court
Street
there.
This
is
what
you're
you
end
up
with
in
that
one
sense
and
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
light
in
there
and
it's
not
like
it's,
not
square
holder,
I,
don't
know
again,
I
really
what
I
have
to
do
is
I
have
to
review.
What's
in
the
country,
has
a
plan
for
Stimson?
D
Have
you
look
at
that
again
because
I
thought
it
was
I
thought
at
that
time
they
were
talking
about
more
about
a
two-story
of
you
and
in
general
stretching
out
and
when
I
safety
start
being
in
terms
of
height
and
where
they
were
talking
about
the
bar
and
their
Simpson
or
the
closing
distance.
But
the
general
appearance
ever
was
nothing.
You
know
not
monolithic
again.
Breaking
up
the
architecture
is
great,
but
the
overall.
E
C
E
D
D
Much
different
that
most
people
thought,
but
what
you're
talking
about
is
playing
45
feet
right
at
the
edge
of
the
street,
and
that
is
a
different
screen
that
okay,
you
know
the
building
being
way
back
there,
a
block
away
from
Stimson
versus
a
45
foot,
building
right
on
Stinson,
right
and
again
I.
Look
at
I
have
to
go
get
my
compass
out,
but
I'm,
assuming
we're
looking
at
its
north
was
its
north.
It's
east-west,
but.
E
D
E
D
F
B
C
E
E
Cost
him
a
lot
of
money
right
now.
One
thing
I
want
to
say,
though
I
mean,
if
really
the
city
has
a
vision
and
wants
the
vision
to
happen,
I'm
not
asking
for
any
tax
help
or
anything
like
that.
I'm
only
asking,
let
me
do
the
vision
and
make
thick
vision,
cost-effective.
Otherwise,
who
cannot
do
something
I
mean
when
I'm
ready
to
die
and
I
want
to
make
twenty
million
dollars?
Maybe
I'll
do
it
that
way,
the
city
it
wants
it
that
makes
sense,
but
right
now
my
mortgage
is
still
going
on
what.
F
E
E
E
E
B
F
B
E
D
We
now
we
throw
another
piece
of
code
on
to
fix
the
problem.
After
the
fact,
I'm
aware
that
there
are
ongoing
conversations
of
improving
Stimson
as
a
whole,
I
believe
there
was
a
meeting
coming
up
soon
may
want
to
talk
to
chamber
people
about
that.
I
didn't
make
to
the
last
meeting
or
whatever
it
was
their.
D
D
B
D
There
are
changes
going
on
whether
do
it
I'm
not
ready
to
jump
on
this
and
say
this
is
a
great
thing,
though
again
this
elements
here
that
really
bother
some
of
the
size,
the
height
I,
look
at
the
the
parking
is
another
condition
entirely
again:
I'm
intrigued
with
the
trying
to
not
require
one
one
car
one
bedroom,
but
I'm
not
sure
how
to
go.
Jumping
on
it
right
now,
the
zip
cars
I
did
look
at
the
site,
there's
the
other
site
flex,
cars
I,
see,
usually
they're
cut
off
or
actually
requiring
and
again.
D
E
E
E
E
E
C
B
E
E
E
C
A
To
you
know,
go
ahead
and
had
asked
for
preliminary
approval,
yes
and
some
lists,
and
some
some
middle
information.
That's
necessary
and
I
calculate
the
fee
necessary
for
the
application,
and
that's
where
we
go.
The
list
gets
a
little
more
extensive
and
specific
as
we
go
along.
The
detail
has
to
be
greater,
be
very
honest
with
it.
Doesn't
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
information
necessary
for
preliminary
application,
so
it
can
be
put
together
fairly
quickly
by
an
applicant.
It
doesn't
take
long
at
all
and
the.
C
A
C
F
Bodies
in
imparting
so
I
think
that
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
by
mister
pocos
seriously,
because
we
need
to
be
able
to
to
start
really
seriously
looking
at
this,
and
we
don't
want
to
have
to
go
through
this
whole
thing
over
and
over
and
over
with
each
mm.
You
know,
looking
at
the
different
densities,
maybe
stairs
to
look
at
the
number
of
units
that
you
have
and
what
your
break-even
point
are.
You
know
scenarios
that
you
could
come
up
with
that.
E
Because
we
is
the
number
of
bedrooms
he's
occupied
by
the
dollars,
you
can
rent
I
think
the
way
we
had
it.
The
way
we
had
it.
When
we
were
down
to
like
60
bedrooms,
we
had
to
rent
each
bedroom
for
$1,500
a
month
to
break.
Even
so,
it
will
be
very
hard
to
come
with
good
numbers,
a
number
that
can
break
even
unless
you
put
the
the
bedrooms
there
because
remember
it
is
a
place
that
is
already.