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A
Okay
kadhi
good
afternoon:
this
is
the
Planning
Commission.
It
is
the
February
7th
2:30.
We
have
a
quorum.
Obviously
everybody's
here.
My
breakfast
team
first
thing
on
the
agenda
is
a
after
quorum
is
a
administer
notice.
Anybody
who
plans
to
speak,
please
stand
up
and
be
sworn
in,
so
you
do.
You
promise
tell
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
Great.
B
A
C
A
C
A
D
D
A
D
A
A
B
His
discussion
of
Springs
and
the
fact
that
the
vendor
foot
development
comes
under
the
2006
edition
of
the
residential
code
of
Ohio,
which
then
says
that
sprinklers
won't
be
required
for
it
and
that
sprinklers,
for
the
garage
will
not
be
able
to
not
be
required
under
that
code,
so
that
pretty
well
enters
the
other
question
that
we
had
about
it.
I
think.
Okay,
do
we
need
with
this
recommendations
from
the
shade
tree
Commission?
Do
we
need
to
do
anything
to
recommend.
F
B
A
C
B
B
A
G
H
G
G
You're
all
where
we
have
a
fire
department
is
certainly
limited
on
staffing,
we're
now
putting
automobiles
underneath
residents
units
those
particular
vehicles
catch
fire.
It's
not
only
a
fire
issue,
but
it's
a
toxic
gas
fumes
issue
that
can
be
drawn
into
the
air
handling
units
and
right
into
the
structure,
a
sprinkler
system
with
long
ways
and
reducing
that
and
most.
D
G
Are
extinguished,
or
certainly
controlled
by
one
sprinkler,
you
assume,
by
putting
a
13-hour
system
in
which
is
the
least
expensive
of
all
sprinkler
systems.
I
think
would
be
prudent,
again,
I
understand
that
is
not
required
by
state
code.
However,
if
there's
any
variances
or
anything
in
that
nature,
that
has
to
be
given
in
this
project,
I
would
certainly
strongly
recommend
that
we
require
this
13-hour
system.
Okay,.
A
G
G
B
I'd
like
to
amend
my
motion,
okay
and
I,
which
meant
the
motion
to
approve
this
with
the
addition
of
13
argent
sprinkler
system.
I
have
not
been
easy
in
my
mind,
imagining
the
way
that
the
apartments
are
gonna
be
built
and
so
on,
with
no
no
sprinklers
and
no
other
way
to
get
out
of
there
there,
but
will
be
effectively
the
third
floor.
If
there's
a
fire
and
down
so
second
day.
H
H
I'm
Caroline
Thomason
I
just
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity
we've
passed
out
packets
here
with
more
information,
our
architect
Jim
Thomas
of
Pantanal.
He
is
here
and
also
Todd
wins
and
who
would
be
building
the
unit.
If
you
would
like
to
have
more
information
about
the
structure
in
and
of
itself,
this
would
be
the
opportunity
to
acquire
that.
Thank
you.
E
G
E
G
My
opinion,
if
you
sprinkle
sprinkle
the
building
the
the
egress
issue
with,
would
go
away
because
many
times
when
mobility
in
a
sprinkle
that
relaxes
egress
requirements
to
some
degree,
that
was
the
point
I
was
trying
to
make
that.
Because
there
was
a
question
on
what
is
a
fire
stair
and
that's
sort
of
an
ambiguous.
A
And
I
think
am,
I
concerned
it
was
the
heightened
second-story
windows
and
somebody
came
out
of
that
in
the
secondary
and
I
think
the
housing
farming
heisman
code
requires
these
two
way
of
getting
in
and
out
of,
and
this
the
windows
would
certainly
cover
that.
The
question
is
how
far
you
have
to
probably
get
that
discussion.
One
point
was
ladders,
which
I
haven't
told
is
not
part
of
the
code
anymore
considered
acceptable
and
then
the
other
one
was
a
sprinkle
it.
As
a
countermeasure.
I
Sprinkle,
though
we
wouldn't
have
any
real
benefits
or
relaxation
on
the
code
for
this
building,
because
it
already
we,
we
have
to
have
the
garage
area
when
our
rated
either
way,
which
it
is
the
stairs,
are
all
single
egress
that
each
apartment
has
its
own
stair
and
that's
separated
from
the
garage
by
an
outer
construction
and
the
and
as
far
as
the
windows
and
all
I,
don't
know
exactly
when
the
second
egress
kicks
in
windows.
Multiple
fours
work
for
a
second
egress
starts
for
the
Tokyo.
I
There's
a
firewall
between
there's
four
apartments,
there's
a
firewall
between
two
sets
of
apartments
and
then
each
of
those
other
two
groups
have
a
one-hour
rated
wall
between
them.
So
two
pairs
have
a
narrow
rating
between
them
and
there's
two,
our
firewall
between
those
and
then
there's
a
our
separation
between
the
garage
and
the
apartments.
Above,
if.
B
C
B
G
C
G
My
concern
is
always:
how
do
we
prevent,
or
at
least
reduce
the
amount
of
toxic
gases
that
are
being
produced?
In
this
instance,
we
may
have
a
firewall,
and
it
may
well
in
fact,
stop
the
front
flame
impingement
for
an
hour.
What
it
does
not
stop
in
many
instances
is
the
accumulation
of
toxic
gases
and
fumes.
G
Because
of
director
Eamon
pendulum
on
an
individual
so-
and
that
goes
back
to
my
primary
concern-
is
we
we
now
have
vehicles
underneath
these
residential
units
and,
as
you
all
know,
you've
all
seen
vehicle
fires,
and
you
know
how
black
the
smoke
is.
We
have
certainly
a
tremendous
amount
of
gasoline
potential.
That's.
H
G
Either
through
the
air
handling
units
or
if
the
kids
sleep
with
our
windows
open
or
something
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning
that
this
happens,
that's
the
potential
that
we're
looking
at
and
that's
that's
my
biggest
concern.
You
know
I
certainly
understand
the
cost
of
sprinklers
and
I
can
appreciate
that.
But
I
have
to
look
at
it
for
my
recommendation.
Is
we
have
an
opportunity
to
make
a
structure
saver?
Why
wouldn't
we
do
it?
G
I
know
the
state
code
many
times
if
those
are
minimum
codes
and
it
does
not
take
in
account
the
idiosyncrasies
of
a
particular
community-
and
you
know
our
community-
we
happen
to
have
a
large
population
of
young
adults.
We
know
many
times
that
Thursday
and
Friday
Saturday
nights.
Those
young
adults
may
not
be
a
full
faculty.
G
G
Have
better
than
90%
of
affecting
us
with
one
head
going
on
and
what
that
simply
means
is
it
it'll
either
contain
or
put
out
the
fire
until
the
fire
department
arrives,
and
you
know
with
our
response
time
we're
pretty
fortunate
have
about
a
four
minute
response
time,
so
at
least
that
hit
will
keep
the
fire
contained
a
week.
We
can
get
there
and
will
not
allow
it
to
to
progress
much
beyond
that
now.
Obviously,
there
are
instances
where
that
may
not
be
the
case,
but
I
think
certainly
we're
looking
at
better
than
90%.
A
Would
also
I
think
as
to
say
that
the
population
is
seyd,
you
know,
being
students,
I'm
aware
that
many
of
them
know
a
lot
of
stuff
and
many
of
them
don't
know
a
lot
of
how
things
run
in
the
city
and
and
even
a
general
safety
issues,
so
I've
actually
been
leading
to
a
sprinkler
sprinkling.
The
system
as
well
and.
I
A
C
A
So
the
requirement
is
to
be
some
sprinkling
in
your
design,
Thank
You
chief.
The
next
case
is
zero
802.
This
is
a
meant
of
the
zoning
Tico
street
from
what
we
received.
This
is
for
the
station
project
and
the
discussion
was
at
one
point
to
uni,
or
do
we
consider
this
something
that
has
to
be
rezone
the
way
I
think
you
were
speaking
to
the
pebble
you
were
speaking
to
the.
F
Process
of
rezoning
is
some
is
separate
and,
apart
from
a
Planned
Unit
development
regaining
approval,
so
there's
another
lengthy
process
yet
to
be
accomplished.
The
rezoning
actually
was
started
at
the
request,
the
owner
and
their
representative
and
the
Planning
Commission
asked
that
I
put
actually
the
rezoning
packet
together.
So
what
you're
considering
right
now
is
just
a
recommendation
to
Council
to
rezone
the
area.
Okay,
as
opposed
to
starting
into
the
whole
Planned
Unit
development
review
process.
Yeah.
A
F
A
F
Commission
public
hearing
on
any
rezoning,
either
for
language
or
for
either
for
text
or
for
map
amendment.
The
public
hearing
is
optional.
It
says
if
the
Planning
Commission
deems
it
necessary
now
Council
has
to
have
a
public
hearing
when
there's
a
public
hearing
at
the
Planning,
Commission
requests
or
or
schedules
the
response
time,
if
it's
something
that's
forwarded
from
Council,
goes
from
60
days
to
90
days,
there's
a
30
day
additional
allowance,
a
public
hearing
is
deemed
necessary.
C
F
F
It's
a
series
of
pure
four
drawings.
There
should
be
one
that
does
the
Planning
Commission
asked
that
I
do
up
a
map
showing
zoning
for
the
vicinity
and
then
I
highlighted
the
property
question
and
I've
got
one.
You
go
in
a
little
closer
and
judge
the
existing
zoning
close
to
the
area.
Another
map,
then
that
shows
the
particular
parcel
in
question,
and
this
one.
You
should
be
able
to
see
that
just
to
the
south
of
the
property
in
question,
the
land
is
all
owned
by
the
city
of
that
it
was.
It
was
part
of
a.
F
A
A
C
F
It
specifically
listed
in
the
definition
which
is
further
back
of
whatever
what
park
lands
already
feels
like
that.
Okay,
I'd
previously
reviewed
this
ordinance
and
in
April,
and
that
was
some
of
the
concern
that
I
had
was
we
essentially
take
a
two
thousand
foot
swath
out
of
the
city
following
the
bike
path,.
F
What
I
would
like
to
do
for
you
is
to
take
a
zoning
map
and
identify
the
v3
and
M
zones,
then
identify
any
of
the
distant
separation
requirements
to
see
where
possibly
this
type
of
activity
could
take
place
will
be
limited
to
b3
or
M
zones,
and
then
there
is
at
least
a
thousand
feet
away
from
that.
You
know
that
list
I'm,
not
sure
what
a
landmark
is.
E
F
F
A
A
H
A
A
C
A
Things
were
occurring
here,
one
is
that
most
copy
the
whole
chunk
of
the
zoning
for
that
particular,
and
you
guys
probably
were
around
cariann.
Thank
you.
This
was
there
is
a
section
on
page
38,
and
this
has
to
do
with
the
this
is
part
of
the
discussion
has
been
internalized,
Stimson
that
it's
a
beast
rezone
that
does
not
allow
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
C
A
If
you
read
the
rest,
it
says
drive-in
eating
and
drinking
places,
summer,
gardens
and
Road
houses
provided
principal
building
shut
up
shall
be
at
least
a
distance
of
not
less
than
two
hundred
feet
from
the
horizonal
are
one
or
two
zone.
You
can
see,
it's
struck
out
everything,
and
so
it
reads:
eating
drinking
establishes
principal
building
shall
not
shall
be
at
least
200
feet
for
an
hour
or
two
zone.
C
A
I'm
not
the
way
I've
been
hearing.
This
is
this
may
not
been
the
original
tense
in
terms
of
how
was
struck
down
like
this
and
again,
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
developers
on
Stimson
is
that
this
precluded
putting
any
type
of
restaurant
in
Stimson
accept,
what's
grandfathered
in
it,
because
they're
wave
they're
within
200
feet
of
both
Morris
and
I.
A
C
I
A
C
A
Again,
I
don't
expect
us
to
jump
on
it
right
now.
I
rather
have
this
think
it
through
before
we
do
anything
but
I'm
bringing
it
to
your
name
and
that's
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
it's
under
communications,
the
other
piece
I
copied
out
his
definitions
of
the
same
code
and
again
you
should
have
that
as
well,
should
come
with
a
front
page
of
the
ordinance
itself,
and
that
was
the
definitions
of
buildings
and
I
I
apologize.
A
A
You
get
Janice,
can
you
okay,
because
we're
not
going
to
act
on
it
today
again
part
of
this
part
of
the
strike
F
has
to
do
with
a
definition
with
unpierced
walls
or
firewalls
and
incense
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
we
just
discussed
a
building
that
had
firewalls.
You
know
on
Mill
Street
for
ways
which
be
a
4
Way
building.
If
we
really
go
to
this,
but
part
of
the
view
of
this
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
look
at
buildings?
And
again
this
was
pointed
out
to
me
saying
2003.
A
We
had
a
much
more
complex
definition
which
got
simplified
quite
a
bit
and
may
not
hit
the
mark
even
and
I
know.
We
could
talk
about
various
examples
that
we're
seeing
being
built
right
now
or
in
process
and
I'm
not
being
critical,
but
I,
know
and
I
know
having
sat
in
the
audience
during
2003
and
watching
this.
This
undertaking
happen
between
Council
and
Planning.
D
B
A
I,
don't
have
a
packrat,
so
I
have
posits
that
where
I
can
find
you
know
and
again
I'm
putting
this
out
just
because
I
think
we
wanted
to
look
at
it.
Steve
has
gave
me
a
massive
massive
tone
with
of
projects.
He
wants
us
to
deal
with
the
next
upcoming
meetings
or
terms
one
including
building
definitions
in
terms
of
buildings,
otherwise,
in
terms
of
LED
lights,
which
he
brought
up
to
for
you
previously-
and
this
is
this-
lip
acne
gave
me,
which
I
have
yet
to
really
go
through
in
pieces.
C
B
B
Yes,
because
even
while
we
were
working
on
the
revision
of
the
zoning
code,
practices
in
different
zones
were
changing
and
the
men
home
businesses
and
things
like
that
need
to
be
addressed,
and
we
need
to
look
at
what
really
is
manufacturing.
Maybe
we
need
some
manufacturing
zones
to
remain,
but
not
probably
with
the
definitions
that
they
had
before
that.
A
A
The
Planning
Commission
is
capable
or
willing
to
take
this
on
because
you
saw
what
this
monster
this
one
is,
but
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
some
of
some
of
the
issues
and
we
don't
have
to
do
it
all
at
once,
and
we
don't
have
to
do
it
hodgepodge
I
hope
we
could
actually.
Hopefully,
when
we
get
a
planner
on
board,
we
can
give
them
that
stuff
to
do
early.
Some
of
it
I
know.
A
That's
gonna,
be
one
of
the
tasks
of
an
interior
planet
to
put
the
implement
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
also
to
to
update
our
code.
I.
Think
in
2001
I
know
that
the
council
had
put
somebody
spent
five
thousand
for
an
upgrade
of
our
code,
our
critique
of
it,
and
they
were
kind
of
surprised
how
we
had
this
cupcake
layer,
B
1,
B,
2,
B
3,
and
then
we
should
be
more
specific
and
and.
C
A
C
A
A
Be
when
you're
looking
at
them
and
so
again,
I'm
just
bringing
up
some
tasks.
I,
look
to
the
future,
we'll
have
to
deal
with.
Ok,
so
I
think
I've
covered
everything.
Communications
I
did
ask
Chuck
hammer
to
be
here,
I
think
Steve.
We
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
take
on
the
last
communication
we
had
last
meeting
concerning
our
mr.
D'agostino,
mostly
I,
had
to
do
with
the
a
lot
split
on
a
water
leak.
Township
round
Road
I
have
this
stuff
here.
A
J
If
I
could
give
a
little
presentation,
just
generally
speaking
the
goals
that
we
have
at
the
health
department
with
regard
to
lots,
blitz
and
approvals
of
proposed
lots,
our
overarching
goal
is
to
provide
assurance
that
the
created
lot
or
lots
have
all
the
necessary
resources
on-site
to
accommodate
a
sustainable
non,
discharging
home,
sewage
treatment
system
that
functions
properly.
That
prevents
nuisances
and
protects
the
public
health
and
in
places
like
brown
Road,
that
might
mean
there
might
be
generations
before
public
sewers
get
to
those
sites
to
serve
those
houses.
But
I
think
it's
also
probably
plain.
H
C
J
The
on-site
resources
should
be
adequate
to
allow
for
the
simplest,
lowest
tech
and
lowest
cost
options
for
sewage
treatment
and
disposal
that
maximizes
the
options
and
opportunities
for
developers
and
minimizes
potential
development
operation
costs,
which
include
energy
inputs
that
might
be
for
the
life
of
the
system,
that's
needed
for
development,
maintenance
and
operation
of
a
sewage
treatment
system.
Special
consideration
must
be
given
to
areas
where
sewage
disposal
may
include
risks
of
pathogen
or
nutrient
contamination
to
surface
or
groundwater
approved.
J
Lots
should
also
be
free
of
other
conditions
that
do
not
meet
minimum
public
health
standards,
for
example,
an
old
abandoned,
well
a
pile
of
tires
on
a
property
or
a
sewage
system.
That's
either
failed
or
in
disrepair,
poorly
maintained
or
out
of
compliance.
Otherwise
that's
about
it
in
terms
of
the
general
stuff
except
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
history
of
the
involvement
of
the
health
department
with
sewage
systems.
I
think
it
probably
started
before
this,
but
in
1903,
in
our
minute
books,
the
Athens
village
Board
of
Health
passed
a
whole
series
of
ordinances.
J
They
included
restrictions
on
sewage
disposal
and
regulation
of
what
they
called
sanitary
appliances,
which,
probably,
though
the
appliances
they
were
talking
about,
we
may
not
have
some
of
those
now,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
other
kinds
of
appliances
there.
It's
an
interesting
read
off
to
talk
about
outhouses.
Well,.
J
J
In
1944
there
was
a
new
local
sanitary
ordinances
that
included
sewage
disposal
rules
adopted
under
emergency
rule
by
the
athens
county
city
county
health
department
due
to
the
existing
rules
being
quote
entirely
inadequate
for
the
protection
of
the
health
and
welfare
of
the
people
of
the
district.
In
1947
there
was
a
state
manual
for
sanitarians,
published
with
recommendations
for
a
sewage
program,
including
design
requirements
permits
and
inspections.
J
We
had
already
adopted
it
several
years
earlier
1967
there
was
a
local
board
of
health
ordinance
by
the
athens
City
County
Health
Department,
which
mandated
countywide
sewage
disposal
requirements,
including
strict
scrutiny
of
subdivisions,
soil
testing
flow
estimates
from
home
soil
day
of
waste,
water,
soil
base,
sewage
disposal
systems
and
denial
of
permits
when
the
soil
was
not
suitable.
That
rule
in
1967
established
some
minimum
lot
sizes.
J
In
1974
there
was
a
report
from
the
Athens
County
Prosecutor's
Office
to
the
Planning
Commission
Regional
Planning
Commission,
asking
for
a
building
permit
procedure
to
be
put
in
place
relative,
basically
to
sewage
disposal
requirements
in
1976,
Board
of
Health
representatives
requested
the
County
Commission
to
coordinate
information
for
lot
splits
regarding
sewage
disposal
because
of
difficulties.
We
were
having
with
Lots
being
approved
houses
being
built
and
no
opportunity
to
put
a
proper
sewage
system
on
1977.
It
was
a
state
sewage
regulation
passed
that
was
statewide
minimum
regulations
in
2001.
J
There
was
publication
of
a
method
of
soil
evaluation
that
we're
using
now,
as
since
2005
we've
started
to
use
this
Tyler
method
for
determination
of
suitability
of
soil
for
wastewater.
In
2006,
there
was
adoption
of
a
statewide
discharge
standard
for
home
systems
that
precluded
the
after
the
statewide
permit
was
adopted,
scald
an
NPDES
permit,
general
NPDES.
J
It
took
away
the
ability
of
local
health
departments
to
issue
permits
for
sewage
systems
that
discharged
either
treated
or
untreated
sewage
unless
they're,
except
under
very
strict
guidelines-
and
this
was
a
put
it-
put
the
state
in
compliance
with
Clean
Water
Act
regulations.
In
2007,
there
was
new
statewide
sewage
regulations,
passed
I,
went
into
effect,
January
1,
which
included
a
strong
emphasis
on
subdivision
and
individual
lot
planning
for
on-site
systems.
J
Last
summer,
passage
of
amended
sub
House
bill
119
the
budget
bill
provided
each
local
health
department
with
the
exclusive
authority
to
adopt
rules
governing
household
sewage
systems
and
reham
ffice
eyes.
The
statewide
ban
on
open
discharge
from
home
sewage
treatment
systems
unless
sanctioned
under
the
general
NPDES
permit.
In
2007,
we
adopted
a
local
version
of
the
statewide
regulations
and,
finally,
in
2008,
there's
a
report
from
the
Ohio
Department
of
Health
to
the
statewide
study
commission
that
I
have
a
copy
of
and
I'll
leave
it
here.
It's
very
interesting
reading.
A
So
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
are
came
to
us
is
somebody
who
wants
us
to
second-guess
your
authority.
I.
Think,
put
it
bluntly
and
I
know
it's
where
you
are
in
terms
of
your
authority,
you
are
in
charge,
Lutz
was
outside
the
city
limits
and
but
within
the
three
miles,
senator
limits
as
well.
That's
what
your
job
is.
Is
that
correct?
Well,.
E
J
Now
the
lot
is
a
certain
size
and
it
has
all
the
resources
on
it
that
will
accommodate
an
acceptable
sewage
treatment
system
for
now
and
in
the
future.
What
the
developers
are
proposing
is
to
diminish
the
size
of
that
lot
to
not
include
those
resources
and
there's
no
reason
to
not
have
that
line
moved
to
accommodate,
so
that
on
that
line,
you
have
ownership
of
all
the
resources
that
are
needed
for
that
home.
So
I
don't
see
any
compelling
reason
to
establish
an
easement
when
you
can
have
ownership
of
those
resources
right
on
the
law.
J
We're
not
talking
about
a
discharge
area,
we're
talking
about
where
built
infrastructure
would
be
on
that
property,
and
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
and
we've
never
utilized
that
option
to
have
to
diminish
the
lot
with
less
than
those
resources
on
their
land.
Easement
onto
someone
else's
property.
J
J
A
J
J
The
way
we
but
we,
but
we
evaluated
this
property
first
well
before
the
state.
The
the
new
state
rules
were
even
drafted.
So
we've
been
very,
very
consistent
with
our
analysis
of
this
property,
and
now
the
state
rules
gave
us
a
finer
tool
to
discern
what
could
go
where
and
what
would
be
successful
and
those
we
were
able
to
actually
diminish
the
lot
size.
The
proposed
lot
size
that
we
would
approve.
We
were
able
to
counter
proposed
that
that
a
lot
could
be
created
that
was
smaller
than
what
we
first
thought.
J
J
A
A
A
B
A
A
H
C
A
A
The
the
230
works
for
some
people,
especially
either.
Somebody
like
me,
who's
employed
between
those
hours
of
8:00
to
5:00
and
or,
although
sometimes
more
and
as
well
as
anybody
who's
retired
in
take
Italia
this.
What
I
find
one
of
the
kids
planes
is
that
many
people
were
working,
don't
have
the
time
to
come
here
and
and
state
what
they
need,
or
here
what
they
needs
to
be
said.
H
F
F
Not
necessarily
it's
not
a
well
mayor,
while
was
the
council
liaison
to
the
three
Commission
for
quite
a
while
there's,
usually
not
too
much
attendance
by
the
public
and
anyone
who
has
a
specific
question
problem
inquiry,
no
matter
what
the
time
was,
they
seem
to
be
able
to
make
it
to
the
meeting
the
things
a
tree
Commission
does
are
not
nearly
as
extensive
and
possibly
controversial
was
with
the
Planning
Commission's
newing.
So
the
night
meetings
worked
for
them.
F
A
F
B
B
Too,
if
we
met
at
noon
by
and
large,
we
could
finish
this.
Certainly
the
cases
we
could
probably
finish
in
an
hour
unless
there's
some
really
extensive,
one
citizens
always
have
the
opportunity
to
send
communications
and
get
them
read
into
them
into
the
record
too,
but
I
think
when
you
do
it
at
night.
Not
only
is
it
a
burden
on
people
who
are
are
working
during
the
day
for
the
city,
but
it's
also
X's
out
people
who
can't
drive
at
night
and
we've
had
a
number
of
cases
where
there's
been
a
fair
amount
of
interest.
A
A
E
Think
that
having
like
noon
would
also
be
good
for
people
who
are
late
with
architects
and
businesses,
though,
and
also
citizens
who
can
take
the
lunch
hour,
though
I'm
concerned
that
a
lot
of
times
that
some
of
the
public
hearing
portions
about
some
of
the
larger
impact
developments.
E
If
they
are
held
only
at
noon,
then
we
will,
you
know,
preclude
a
lot
of
people
from
being
able
to
come,
and
so
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
open
to
having
you
know,
public
hearings
and
some
of
those
things
happen
at
night
so
that
there
can
be
no
public
input
and
such
so.
You
know
I
know
at
this
time
it's
really
hard
for
anybody
who
has
kids
or
anything
to
be
able,
even
if
they
don't
work
full
time,
because
it's
retinal
picking,
kids
out
there.
This
is
a
hard
time
for
me.
E
C
A
B
A
A
B
C
A
Of
the
Planning
development
and
I
feel
we
should
stay
members
of
that,
even
though
there
is
the
issue
this
was.
This
code
was
actually
introduced
in
I,
believe
1969.
A
Data,
do
you
know
when
your
Steve
you
want
to
that
chimed
in
though
those.
A
K
In
the
circumstance
of
this
appointment,
the
appointment
so
terminated
the
31st
of
January
planning,
the
Regional
Planning
Commission
meeting
it's
next
Thursday
you'll
want
to
have
your
recommendations
forwarded.
Actually
you
could
act
on
it
tonight,
just
as
you
did
some
other
things
earlier
and
toward
those
to
the
Regional
Planning
Commission,
as
here
as
a
earlier
agreement
between
regional
and
the
Planning
Commission,
a
sequence.