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From YouTube: Athens City Planning Commission Meeting 12-17-08
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A
We
have
a
quorum
that
wish
I
like
to
remind
people
to
please
turn
off
their
cell
phones,
and
also
anybody
who
are
going
is
planning
on
speaking
before
the
Commission
today
and
swear
that
you
or
affirm
that
you
will
tell
the
truth
before
the
Commission.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Our
first
order
of
agenda
is
case,
oh-eight
1:5.
So
there
southeast
legal
services,
which
is
a
title
41.
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Treat
Commission
I
assume
that
you
haven't
received
anything
from
them
yet.
Mr.
mr.
Reiser
went
before
the
tree
Commission
last
Thursday
evening,
the
impression
I
got
was
that
a
letter
will
be
coming
very
soon.
They
had
no
problems
with
the
site.
No,
the
removal,
trees
and
I
believe
there's
well
over
500
trees
on
the
site,
so
they
had
no
problems
with
anything
in
mr.
Ingram,
dr.
Ingram
said
he
would
be
sending
out
I
believe
you
said,
he'd
be
sending
out
a
letter
momentarily
okay,.
C
D
C
The
primary
concerns
relating
the
fire
and
safety
chief
Troxel
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
had
adequate
clearance
on
the
driveway
up
for
fire
trucks
and
safety
vehicles
to
get
up,
II
believe
II,
requested
12
feet,
12
feet
high
and,
and
that
would
be
from
the
driveways
up.
Basically,
a
12
foot
box
police
police
was
comfortable
with
everything
they
encouraged
adequate
lighting
in
the
parking
lot.
If
there's
going
to
be
business
taking
taking
place
in
the
evenings
as
well
to
discourage
people
from
using
that
as.
C
Spot
late
at
night
or
on
the
weekends
I
apologize
I,
don't
have
a
copy
of
the
letter
with
me.
To
summarize
anything
else.
It
was
a
concern
about
the
backflow
valve,
making
sure
that
that's
inspected
and
make
sure
that
that
works
properly
prior
for
the
sewer
systems,
visible
signage
for
9-1-1
and
postal
service,
and
just
orienting
people
that
are
trying
to
get
to
the
site
so
that
there's
adequate
information
on
East,
8th
Street,
because
it
is
sitting
back
and.
F
A
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D
Think
it's
a
nice
box
is
actually
it's
a
trade
name
and
the
fire
department
requires
it
of
all
all
commercial
properties
in
the
city
and
it's
a
place
in
which
you
put
the
key
to
your
Pratt
home
and
it's
accessible
to
the
fire
department.
So
they
don't
have
to
take
an
axe
to
your
door.
It's
actually
a
decent
idea,
and
it
was
one
of
those
items
in
chief
trachsel's
contents
and
we
actually
were
going
to
do
that.
Anyways.
H
E
H
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B
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H
And
then
can
we
a
question
for
the
Planning
Commission?
Can
we
give
up
prove
off?
We
don't
last
time
we
couldn't
give
approval
because
of
the
tree.
Commission
sounds
like
tree:
Commission
still
has
not
given
us,
I
mean
they've
talked
to
them,
but
we
haven't
got
anything
formally
from
the
tree
Commission.
Can
we
give
approval?
What's
that,
in
absence
of.
A
A
G
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A
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B
D
A
private
structural
foundation,
the
guard
will
actually
the
car
is
the
way
the
parking
is
configured.
The
cars
actually
don't
on
the
southern
half
of
the
parking
area
or
parallel
are
so
it
didn't
see
them
like
this
I
mean
if
they're
Park
nose
in
where
they
could
conceivably
roll
down
the
hill,
and
we
absolutely
would
do
a
guardrail,
but
it
seems
like
they're
because
of
that.
B
D
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F
E
Information
we
modified
part
of
our
code
regarding
the
location
of
drinking
eating
establishments
back
earlier
this
year
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
another
look
at
that.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
modification
that
was
approved
and
then
went
to
Council,
which
they
ultimately
approved,
removed
the
existing
language.
So
it
just
addresses
drive-thru
drinking
or
eating,
not
drinking
and
eating
establishments.
G
A
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C
A
A
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G
Yes,
I'm
aware
of
that
why
they
can't
one
of
the
discussions.
Of
course,
it
branched
out
to
his
rezoning
areas
to
make
it
fit
for
home
builders
and
again
that
would
be
in
the
purview
of
the
Planning
Commission
I
did
have
discussion
with
Paul
Logue
about
I,
think
at
one
point,
hostels
and
other
rooming
houses.
G
So
this
it's
in
the
works
in
terms
of
conversation,
but
one
of
the
tasks
I
was
asking
for
the
the
authors
of
the
letters
was
to
participate,
there's
going
to
be
a
homeless
snapshot
because
the
homeless
conditions
within
the
city
I
think
they're,
anticipating
to
do
that.
The
Housing
Coalition
has
its
kind
of
house
opposes
shouldn't
talk
about
doing
that,
the
27
to
find
out
what
the
the
needs
are.
I'm,
not
sure.
A
Okey-Dokey
out
report
from
our
city,
planner.
C
Just
to
kind
of
back
up
on
what
the
mayor
was
just
talking
about
relating
to
the
homeless,
not
having
anything
in
zoning
relating
to
homeless
services
and
housing
I
received.
At
the
same
time,
we
were
discussing
this
I
received
a
phone
call
from
a
gentleman
in
Columbus
who
was
interested
and
inquired
about
how
he
could
open
up
a
hostel
in
the
city
of
Athens.
He
had
done
some
basic
marketing
and
was
was
very
familiar
with
hostel
systems
around
the
u.s.
and
around
Europe,
and
we,
when
I,
was
trying
to
find
some
background
for
him.
C
How
youth
hostel
generally
yeah
he
didn't
have
too
much
on
the.
As
far
he's
just
gathered
some
preliminary
information.
He
had
run
into
the
same
problem
in
Columbus
where
he
was
looking
to
operate.
One
there
open
one
and
the
city
didn't
have
anything
on
their
books
for
it.
So
essentially
they
just
said
sorry.
C
F
A
On
that
right,
could
you
before,
like
I,
think
maybe
this
could
be
also
agenda
item
of
discussion
further
about
this?
Could
you
bring
some
of
those
examples
of
what
you
have
found.
C
H
F
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G
A
A
F
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H
If
you
read
the
r1
r2
it,
it
will
say
you
can't
have
a
garden
or
we
can't
have
this.
Usually
it's
defined.
That's
why
I
thought
okay.
G
G
A
Think
also
trying
to
identify
other
areas
homeless
that
could
potentially
become
housing
for
low
to
moderate
income
people.
That's
something
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
C
Right
right
now
we're
having
the
law
director
review
it
to
see
whether
council
actually
does
need
to
adopter
attest
to
the
zoning
map
that
ill
guard
has
finished
for
us.
I
just
sent
an
email
to
him
this
morning
asking
for
something
to
see
if
you
have
any
guidance
for
us
yet,
but
I
haven't
received
anything
back.
Debbie
Walker
talked
with
him
about
it
after
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago
after
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
to
see
what
he
thought
about
it
so
still
waiting
on
work
that
I
think.
A
C
They
the
problem,
is,
if
you
it
says
that
a
the
official
city,
zoning
map
I,
believe,
if
you
look
at
I,
think
it's
23o
202
in
Athens,
because
it
says
the
officials,
the
official
city
zoning
map,
properly
attested,
must
be
held
on
file
at
the
city
code
enforcement
office.
It
doesn't
say
what
properly
attested
means,
because
the
the
map
that
we've
done
is
nothing
more
than
updating
the
old
map
that
we
haven't
made
any
zoning
changes.
C
Just
it
takes
him
to
affect
any
annexations
if
the
city's
done
and
how
those
razón
and
any
rezoning
x'
that
were
done
say
back
in
the
90s
or
the
80s
or
anything.
Since
the
last
map
was
done,
we
just
don't
have
any
guidance
as
to
what
it
means
to
be
attested
know
how
everybody's
code
doesn't
say
very
much
either
so
the
law
directors
looking
at
that
he
wasn't
very
I,
don't
believe
you.
He
wasn't
very
happy
with
how
the
law
was
written,
how
the
ordinance
was
written
right
now.
F
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B
C
Have
already
been
made,
these
are
we
have
a
map
that
was
done
in
the
60s
or
70s
I.
Believe,
and
you
know,
zoning
changes
that
were
done
in
the
90s
aren't
reflected
on
that
map,
except
they're
they're,
drawn
in
using
a
magic
marker
mm-hmm.
So
this
is
just
official
izing
those
those
changes
and
making
it
and
having
it.
So
that's
accurate
for
anybody
who
needs
the
information.
A
C
Sitting
in
we
have
been
focusing
on
temporary
temporary
signage,
a
request
have
been
made
to
the
law
director
relating
to
political
signs,
we're
working
through
real
estate
signs
right
now
and
Court
Street
issues
like
sandwich
boards,
and
things
like
that
for
so
that
those
can
be
permitted
with
the
potential
that
they
we
cannot
permit
sandwich
boards
on
Court
Street
and
following
specific
requirements
from
the
code
office.
We.
F
C
Relating
to
the
to
code,
I
believe
we
are
at
the
final,
the
final
stage
of
what
we
think
is
needed
to
adopt
it,
which
we
have
to
get
the
twenty
and
fifty
year
flood
mapping
completed
by
which
I
think
that's
scheduled
to
be
done
by
the
end
of
by
the
middle
of
March.
So
once
we
have
that
mapping
done,
we
can
then
get
the
ordinance
through
councillor
get
the
code
through
great
and.