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Description
The Athens County Historical Society and Museum and the City of Athens Government Channel (TGC) present Steve Barnett, member of the Ohio Atlatl Association. Mr. Barnett covers the history and function of the atlatl as well as its function in the modern day.
Atlatl Links:
World Atlatl Association (click ISAC for world rankings)
www.waa.basketmakeratlatl.com
Ohio Atlatl Association
www.facebook.com/OhioAtlatlAssociation
Atlatls and Darts made in Athens, Ohio
www.raysatlatls.com
A
A
Want
to
thank
the
Athens,
got
Historical
Society
Museum
for
put
this
on
and
when
you
come
here
and
show
you
my
wares.
I
looked
at
the
list
of
people
that
are
speaking
this
month
and
looks
pretty
impressive
I'm,
the
only
one
that
doesn't
have
a
PhD
I,
don't
list.
So
you
should
be
able
to
understand
what
I'm
going
to
say.
A
I
might
want
to
add
to
some
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
talk
here
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
We
have
given
atlatl
events
at
some
of
their
locations
and
I
want
to
start
out
by
saying
that
there's
a
lot
of
debate
amongst
historians
and
archeologists
about
some
of
these
dates
and
some
of
the
origins
of
some
of
things.
A
So
there
is
a
there's,
a
broad
range
of
some
of
these
dates
and
also
of
some
of
the
countries
of
the
origins.
I
want
to
quickly
define
what
an
FIO
is
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
through
and
talk
about
the
history
of
the
mechanics
of
it
and
I
want
to
talk
about
Ethel
weights
and
then
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
modern
history
of
the
other,
and
it
won't
take
me
too
long.
The
ll
is
basically
an
extension
of
a
person's
arm.
A
Ancient
Highnesses
hung
with
the
spear
and
spear
in
her
hand,
it
was
no
doubt
person,
the
fervor,
you
know
hand-to-hand
combat
with
an
animal
the
animals
would
roll
over,
they
would
injure
ancient
hunters,
probably
some
Asian
hunters
got
their
feet
stepped
on
and,
and
they
were
basically
put
in
danger,
trying
to
hunt
these
very
large
animals
with
their
body.
The
a
battle
is
to
be
able
to
take
them
back
at
least
30
meters
or
more
and
put
them
safer
situation.
A
The
key
to
making
a
good
out
of
throw
is
keeping
your
your
elbow
level
keeping
your
posture
up.
So
when
we
start
our
throw
no
matter
where
we
start
our
out,
but
we
want
to
stay
level
the
whole
way
through
it
starts
up
here.
It
stays
level
it
starts
down.
Here
we
need
to
keep
it
up,
I'd
like
to
keep
mine
above
them,
but
above
shoulder
height,
there
are
people
that
actually
will
they
throw
like
this
there's
all
kinds
of
different
ways
you
can
throw.
A
A
A
A
They
there's
also
a
couple
schools
of
thought
where
they
originated
some
archeologists
believe
they
originated
in
southern
Europe
and
some
archaeologists
which
particularly
southern
France,
some
archaeologists
Spain.
They
were
from
northern
Africa,
Tunisia,
Algeria
and
Morocco,
but
to
me
northern
Africa-
and
some
here
is
about
the
same
place
and
there
we
know
that
aged
people
were
able
to
cross
those
waters
there.
They
were
able
to
go
down
to
Spain
and
cross
over
into
Morocco.
So
I
don't
understand
the
whole
debate.
Thing
I
mean
it
all
came
from
around
there
somewhere.
B
A
C
A
They
think
that,
once
the
amounts
were
were
created
in
this
area
here
of
northern
Africa,
something
Europe
that
within
10,000
years,
the
whole
world
had
except
Antarctica.
A
network
is
the
only
place
where
they
haven't
discovered
any
possible
use
that
balance,
but
during
that
ten
thousand
year
period,
so
it
spread
around
someone.
But
also
some
area
came
up
with
them
on
their
own
Australia
in
particular,
and
some
other
places.
A
The
boat
was
invented
about
15,000
years
ago
and
when
the
bow
also
came
from
northern
Africa
in
southern
Europe
and
it
started
spreading
across
the
world
and
as
it
spread
across
the
world,
the
a
family
went
out
of
fashion
in
some
in
most
of
the
world.
The
bow
was
able
to
take
the
hundred
back
100
metres
and
is
also
be
able
to
make
their
hunting
kits
a
lot
lighter
that
they
were
carrying
arrows
instead
of
Spears.
Like
this,
we
call
these
darts.
A
A
A
In
the
30s
and
40s
a
group
of
archaeologists,
in
summary,
the
United
States
tried
to
recreate
the
atlatl
and
make
these
things
work.
They
couldn't
get
it
to
work
properly
and
they
finally
figured
out
that
they
were
their
darts
for
a
rigid
and
they
were
making
in
my
experience
they
needed
to
make
them
flexible.
These
things
won't
fly
if
they're,
not
flexible
and
once.
A
We
call
these
darts,
because
they're
fat
on
the
front
end
they're
thin
on
this
end,
which
is
pretty
much
like
a
bar
dart,
would
be
at
the
Tonys
and
they're
fat
on
one
end
and
they're
also
weighted
in
the
front,
and
we
also
weight
these
in
the
front.
These
ones
that
we
use
it
or
lumen.
We
put
a
little
doll
rod
up
here
in
the
front.
A
A
So
when
you're
castin
have
dark
with
an
atlatl
and
you'll,
see
some
pictures
over
here
and
move
it
as
I
go
to
cats
thieves,
they
basically
Bend
up
like
this,
and
and
then
they
go
like
this,
and
they
oscillate
the
whole
way
down.
You
don't
really
see
it
with
the
human
with
the
human
eyes,
you'll
see
something
for
the
pictures
here
and
that's
the
same
thing
in
arrow.
That's
when
it
comes
off,
but
it
oscillates
all
the
way
down.
A
A
And
also
the
other
animals
going
to
bend
see
how
it's
flexible.
Now
they
used
to
think
that
the
FL
and
the
dark
stored
kinetic
energy
and
when
you're
released
in
to
release
that
kinetic
action.
Now
that
is
true
for
the
dark.
This
started:
storing
energy
as
its
as
its
as
its
as
its
resisting
acceleration,
it's
storing
at
energy
in
that
vendor
it
releases
it
when
you
let
it
go,
but.
D
A
Have
kinetic
energy
what's
happening
here
is,
as
you
go
to
cast
your
dart
these
things
Bend
back,
but
as
the
darts
cast
they
haven't
put
forward
here,
so
they
really
aren't
releasing
any
energy,
like
you
think,
they're
like
they
used
to
think
see
a
couple
pictures
here
talking
about
the
history.
These
are
petroglyphs
in
the
data
and
you
can
see
these
are
just
a
palace
that
they
had
dropped.
Those
rocks
I
don't
have
the
dates
for
these.
A
This
one
here
is
called
a
battle
rock
it's
right
outside
of
Las
Vegas,
and
you
can
see
there
that
battle
right
there.
You
see
a
bet,
dark
and
looks
like
someone's,
throwing
one
right
there
and
I
don't
know
if
these
are
represent,
darts
here
being
thrown
or
not,
but
it's
kind
of
plain
because
they're
throwing
it
into
like
what
we
would
target
like
me,
but
some
of
these
things
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
they
represent,
even
though
how
people
figure
them
all
out.
A
This
is
bad.
This
is
a
reproduction.
This
is
the
oldest
known
countdown
of
the
world.
It's
possibly
20,000
years
old,
it's
in
a
museum
in
France.
This
is
the
reproduction
I'ma
show
you
some
pictures
of
the
real
thing
here
in
a
minute,
and
this
is
some
sort
of
animal.
Some
people
think
it's
a
hyena,
some
webpages
call
it
a
deer,
but
it
goes
around
and
it's
actually.
This
is
part
of
its
tail
or
something-
and
this
is
where
this
is
the
spur
that
our
antenna
would
go
on
now.
I
mean
the
in
southern
France.
A
D
A
Is
a
replica-
and
this
is
the
real
thing-
and
this
is
what
it
looks
like
in
the
museum,
the
antler
type
thing
and
there's
a
closed
event.
If
we
go
back,
this
isn't
the
whole
out
loud.
There
was
another
piece
that
went
on
the
end
here
and
that's
what
these
holes
before
and
they
went
to
tie
it
all
together.
A
We
tend
to
think
that
the
effective
length
for
these
things
is
about
the
length
of
your
arm.
That's
what
we
tell
people
to
make
them
if
they
get
too
big,
they
they're
hard
to
use,
because
you
can't
control
it.
This
gets
really
big.
It
basically
takes
them,
throws
your
wrist
over
instead
of
you
controlling
it.
It
controls
you.
If
you
get
with
it's
too
long
or
too
heavy
I,
really
don't
know
how
long
this
is
an
example
of
the
head,
where
the
spur
would
go
on
to
the
cut
from
Canada,
and
these.
A
A
A
They
don't
really
need
to
be
stands
to
do
the
job.
Someone
could
be
used
basic
as
a
stick
like
this
with
just
a
little
car
piece
of
wood.
This
has
a
beard,
but
it
could
just
be
a
little
piece
of
wood
like
some
of
these
are-
and
you
could,
you
could
essentially
carve
on
these
in
the
woods
right
before
you.
A
D
A
Want
to
talk
about
that
lateral
rates
a
little
bit.
These
are
the
stones
that
we
put
on
here.
I
kept
talking
before
me.
The
a
battles
came
into
the
Americas
somewhere
around
thirty
thousand
twenty
or
thirty
thousand
years
ago,
but
when
the
bow
was
invented
about
fifteen
thousand
years
ago,
they
didn't
reach
North
America
for
at
least
ten
thousand
years.
A
They
came
here
approximately
three
or
four
thousand
years,
so
there
was
about
a
ten
thousand
year
period
as
the
people
in
North
America
Central
America
use
the
atlatl
longer
than
the
rest
of
the
world,
and
because
of
that
they
advanced
it.
You
know
they
made
different
improvements
on
the
amount
that
the
rest
of
the
world
didn't
do
because
they
didn't
need
to
they
weren't
using
exclusively
anymore.
They
used
it
side-by-side
when
they
needed
to,
but
it
wasn't
really
their
main
hunting
weapon.
So.
C
A
Went
ahead
and
the
North
American
people
went
ahead
and
advanced
to
things
that
they
did
one
was
they
thin
the
panel
down
to
the
point
where
flexed
and
the
other
thing
was
the
head
of
the
atlatl
weight,
the
North
America
and
Central
America,
so
many
cultures
in
the
world
and
have
these
empanadas
wings
and
youth,
and
these
are
found
all
over
the
Ohio
River
Valley
is
raising.
Some
are
highly
decorative
some
unmarked.
D
A
That
they
were
just
something
to
honor
to
be
fancy.
It's
been
proven
by
a
college
I
forget
which
college
it
was
that
we
have
these
banners
down,
which
I'm
gonna
show
you
some
pictures
of
them.
It's
been
proven
that
the
ban
of
stones
silence
these
at
levels.
They
put
radio
equipment
on
them,
they
threw
them.
Then
they
added
the
banner
stone
just
through
them.
A
One
is
a
counterweight:
when
ancient
hunters
were
hunting,
this
atlatl
could
have
been
back
behind
their
head,
for
who
knows
ten
fifteen
minutes
that,
given
hiding
behind
a
bush
whatever
and
out
in
front
of
them,
seventy
percent
of
them
would
have
been
a
piece
of
Flint.
So
these
things
acted
as
a
counterweight,
but,
more
importantly,
as
I
2004
is
you're
bringing
this
forward.
Your
mass
is
resisting
acceleration.
These
things
are
arch
are
trying
to
arch
either
fighting
you
when
that's
happening,
there's
a
lot
of
movement.
A
A
So
we
believe
that
that's
one
of
the
main
reasons
that
they're
on
there
in
the
archaeological
record,
these
a
lot
of
weights
could
be
anywhere.
That
could
be
two
or
three
of
them
here
that
can
be
down
here.
There
could
be
two
or
three
up
here.
There
could
be
one
on
each
side:
they've
had
all
kinds
of
different
ways
and
what
I
believe
they
were
is
they
were
fine-tuning
the
stability
of
the
applet
and
that's.
A
Of
us
were
doing
so,
just
like
a
bow.
If
we
have
bows
at
the
bow,
then
George
might
using.
The
bow
that
I
would
use
would
be
different
because
you
match
to
the
bow
weights
to
your
your
own
strengths
and
your
own
abilities.
They
come
in
all
kinds
of
different
sizes
in
different
ways
and
I
believe
the
other
was
the
same
way.
Somebody
that
might
be
you
know
a
little
stronger
or
a
little
bigger
might
not
have
as
many
way
to
someone
else.
A
C
A
A
There
are
various
kinds
of
a
lot
of
weights.
We
call
our
stones,
birch
stones
and
Bank
stones
on
your
second
little
Bay
down
here.
There's
some
Indian
artifacts.
There
is
one
Manor
stone
in
there,
I
don't
know
it's
local
or
not,
but
there
is
a
barrister,
so
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
pictures
of
different
kinds
of
violates.
Some
of
them
were
very,
very
fancy
and
highly
polished.
This
is
what
they
call.
A
Bird
stone
is
styling
common
to
see,
writing
on
artifacts
and
it's
an
accepted
practice
with
archaeologists
and
those
writings
identify
the
state,
the
county
and
the
archaeological
site
that
they
came
from.
In
other
words,
it
makes
County
there
might
be
40
or
50
or
60
or
Hospital
sites
they're
all
catalog,
each
one
has
a
number,
and
so
they
can
look
at
that
number
and
be
able
to
tell
from
what
archaeological
site
they
came
from
this.
C
A
This
is
the
birthstone
that
you
can
see.
It's
been
damaged
a
little
bit
for
whatever
reason
you
know
these
things
have
been
in
the
ground
for
a
long
time.
This
one
right
here
is
what
they
call
the
Popeye.
You
see
how
the
eyes
are
kind
of
a
little
bit.
We
have
no
idea
why
they
could've
done
something
like
that,
but
they
you
know,
are
gonna
just
have
made
all
these
things
and
make
all
these
points.
A
C
D
A
A
The
bush
will
see
a
picture
of
one
here
in
a
little
bit,
but
that
was
basically
the
a
bottle
of
right
through
those
Management's.
Now
some
people
believe
that
these
things
were
not
used
as
that
Halloweens.
Some
people
believe
that
they
were
used
to
repair
broken
at
battles
that
you
can
put
two
growing
pieces
into
one.
These.
A
A
There
are
some
people
that
believe
that
these
things
are
nothing
more
than
that
were
used
for
a
spin
twining
port,
which
is
something
that's
used
on
all
that
battles
and
arts
we
use
for
teach
all
the
time
and
that
they
were
never
used
for
how
them
so
they
are
found
with
that
models.
And
that's
why
they're
believed.
A
C
A
A
This
is
a
bear
stone.
That's
rough
and
I
put
this
in
here
on
purpose,
to
show
you
that
everything
doesn't
have
to
be
fun
in
Polish,
you
can
see
the
hole
in
the
middle.
This
was
just
a
banner
stone
that
somebody
used
it
didn't,
have
the
skills
and
or
didn't
have
the
time
to
make
it
pretty
and
it
wasn't.
We
didn't
need
to
make
it
pretty,
but.
A
Pretty
we
did
because
we
can-
and
you
know,
I
I'm,
one
of
those
guys
I
believe
that
ancient
people
were
as
smart
and
as
creative
as
we
all
are
today,
and
they
did
what
they
needed
to
do
this.
Is
it
I'm
not
sure
what
this
is
made
out
of
this
is
another
gamer
stone.
This
one
is
from
Indianapolis
most
of
everything
I'm
showing
you
is
from
Ohio,
but
I
kind
of
like
this
one,
so
I
snuck
in
here
and
in
that
battle.
A
Shaft
would've
gone
straight
to
these
now
there
are-
and
this
is
another
one
from
Kentucky
I-
stuck
that
this
in
here-
also
because
it's
not
fancy
and
it's
not
really
wide.
It's
just
a
functional
stone,
there's
a
hole
in
the
middle
back.
This
one
here
is
was
3,500
years
old,
it's
made
out
of
he
batali
and
they
called
it.
Wait.
E
B
A
Yeah,
that's
what
I
was
told.
Well,
we
call
those
our
rates
they
and
here's
a
bar
way
right
here
and
the
reason
why
this
is
a
couple
of
cover
of
a
book.
The
reason
why
I
stuck
that
in
there,
so
you
can
see
there
are
plenty
of
books
it
just
all
they
do
is
cover
these
things.
These
kind
of
math
novel
ways-
and
this
is
also
a
good
representation
of
some
different
kinds.
A
D
A
Here
is
the
picture
that
I
was
talking
about.
That
shows
you
how
this
banner
stone
would've
been
down,
that
this
is
a
representation
of
what
a
hunting
a
hundreds
of
kid
would
have
had.
They
would
have
these
four
shafts,
they
we
had
a
dart
or
two
and
they
had
their
rent
balance.
Now,
most
of
the
time
we
make
our
so
that
four
chefs
don't
come
out.
A
B
A
That's
all
there's
number
one
thousand
kinds
of
bamboo
those
roots
in
those
days,
whether
it's
native
that
I
don't
know,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
they
would
have
been
used
for
their
ships.
They
could
have
used
easily
abused
wood.
This
one
here
is
made
out
of
ash
and
they
could
also
they
definitely
used
what
a
fast-growing
grass
called
Phragmites.
It
looks
like
king,
it's
kind
of
it's
invasive.
The
state
of
Ohio
doesn't
want
you
to
paint
it.
A
You
see
it
along
the
roads
at
170
between
seventy
and
Newark,
there's
a
bunch
of
patches
of
it,
anything
that
grows
fast
and
straight.
They
would
have
used
as
a
dart
and
which
would
include
giant
ragweed,
possibly
Rose
as
any
kind
of
rose
bush
Ethan
had
a
fast-growing
king,
it
would
have
included
saplings
and
they
would
have
used
whatever
they
could.
The
one
of
the
differences
between
us.
A
Pictures
of
those
Aborigines
there
wasn't
feathers
and
therefore
a
real
blow
and
the
feathers.
Also
we
matched
the
length
of
our
darts
and
the
way
we
do
our
feathers
to
your
own
personal
preference,
on
how
you're
going
to
throw
when
I
first
started,
throwing
I
have
a
mishmash
of
equipment.
I
found
out
that
seven
foot
three
inch
dark
it's
best
for
me
and
that's
when
I
started
using,
but
there
are
some
people
that
their
feathers
could
be
twice
as
long
as
they'll
bring
two
together
and
you
know
kind
of
make
it
pretty.
A
A
Another
other
stuff
that
would
have
been
in
this
kit
that
herons
would
have
carried
would
have
been
sinning
for
repairs
and
possibly
glue
that
pine
tar,
different
kind
of
saps
a
honey
wax
or
something
like
that
beeswax
I
mean
something
that
they
could
use
to
glue
this
sinning
together
once
they
get
it
all.
Also,
possibly
better
I
brought
a
bunch
of
elves
here
who
you
guys
can
play
with
whenever
you
want
these
three
for
me,
I'ma
mirto
give
this
outside
of
Albany
kind
of
decorative,
no
more
definitely
than
we
usually
do.
A
This
group
here
is
made
out
of
made
from
race
district
or
visit
Athens
and
those
group
those
over
there
or
ones
behind
me.
Sometimes
we
don't
make
them
fuxing.
We
just
make
them
to
play
with
I
put
this
deer
horn
on
here
to
just
just
to
do
it,
but
this
thing
is
actually
too
heavy
to
use
as
an
app
allowed
and
it
broke
on
me
and
that's
why
you
got
all
this
here.
It
is
usable,
but
normally
to
move.
We
want
the
whole
system
to
be
as
light
as
possible.
D
D
A
These
these
are
the
type
of
enemies
that
we
use
when
we
teach
people
how
to
do
it,
and
we
put
this
here.
People
can
go
like
that
then
go
like
that,
or
they
can
stick
with
the
hammer
when
we're
teaching
people
how
to
do
this.
We
tend
to
use
rigid
equipment
because
we
don't
want
to
put
too
much
stuff
broken
and
because
they
don't
really
know
some
of
the
how
to
do
it.
Sometimes
the
flexible
things
go
flying
through
the
air
and
we
just
don't
want
to
fix
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
A
We
had
a
man
in
Pennsylvania
who's
passed
away
now,
but
he
took
a
moment
of
his
Haymond
and
he
took
a
whole
bunch
of
crushed
walnut
shells
and
epoxy,
and
his
is
that
little
handle
was
basically
his
hand
and
he
just
would
grab
it
like
that.
He
was
the
basket
maker
type
old.
It
would
fit
in
like
when
we're
competing.
D
A
C
A
Were
all
crushed,
they
put
them
all,
they
were
able
to
piece
them
back
together
if
any
as
it
good,
they
put
the
dimensions
and
pictures
and
all
that
in
the
magazine
and
I
carved
two
amount
of
wood
of
those
exact
same
dimensions.
This
is
happen
to
break,
but
this
would
have
been
way
low
and
this.
This
little
cup
here
would
have
been
natural
particles,
I
made.
C
A
Of
these,
one
of
them
is
in
a
museum
in
Portsmouth,
and
this
is
one
we
play
with.
This
is
made
out
of
walnut
the
other
one
was
been
of
Osage
this
little
thing
here.
These
little
palm
grips
you'll
see
them
on
a
lot
of
these
at
battles
their
base
before
is
to
help
you
keep
the
a
battle
in
position
the
whole
time
your
caster,
so.
A
A
These
hold.
These
are
dart
rest
that
people
have
come
up
with
you'll
see
various
kinds
on
here
we
have
a
piece
of
leather
in
there.
There
really
aren't
many
dark
breasts
in
the
archaeological
record.
This
is
something
that
people
came
up
with,
just
to
help
us
be
able
to
control
the
thing.
Where
did
you
get
out
to
do
this
if
they
have
to
hold
on
to
the
dart
while
they're
throwing
you
don't
ever
have
so
when
we
have
these
dark
metal
on
here?
A
A
D
C
A
C
D
A
A
Okay,
modern
history:
in
the
early
mid
80s,
a
group
of
archaeologists
in
Colorado
wanted
to
start
playing
without
mammals
and
they
made
them
and
they
created
a
golf
game
with
them
and
they
would
go
around
and
you
know
we
would
play
golf
that
have
different
stations
around
to
do
this.
Do
that
and
they
soon
realized
that
that
really
wasn't
determining
their
what
their
skill
levels
were.
It
was
they
were
just
playing
a.
C
A
A
Basically,
he
created
a
target.
You
saw
it
in
there
when
Roberto
was
throwing.
The
white
target
is
an
enlarged
pistol
target
of
some
sort
with
a
X
10
9
8,
7
6.
The
center
of
the
target
is
approximately
107
meters
from
the
ground
and
we
throw
in
groups
of
three
to
five
people.
We
throw
$5.00
from
15
meters,
5
darts
from
20
meters.
We.
A
You
know
you
take
your
top
school,
your
top
your
fastest
run
and
you
chart
it
and
that
way
you
can
see
you
know
who's
the
fastest
kind
of
the
world
without
even
running
against
each
other.
You
know
they
have
their
their
chart
at
times
and
that's
kind
of
how
I
put
it
so
they
created
the
international
standard.
Inaccuracy
contest.
A
We
call
that
I
sac
is
AC
is
strong
at
probably
every
weekend
all
over
the
world
we
throw
from
January
1st,
so
the
end
of
November,
that's
our
season
and
then,
during
the
month
of
December,
they
calculate
the
scores
and
they
come
up
with.
Is
the
top
10
that
year
they
come
up
with
a
with
a
score
that
I
copied
two
or
three
I'm
here,
but
I
have
here
you
guys
all
think
one
with
you
a
whole
bunch
of
websites
on
top
and
you'll
be
able
to
get
these
on
the
websites
now.
C
A
Dated
July
they're
going
to
be
updating
it
here
pretty
soon,
and
this
tells
us
you,
like
I,
said
you
can
score
110
X's,
which
is
the
highest
score.
You
can
possibly
get
the
highest.
The
world
records
course
I
think
98
with
five
X's,
something
like
that,
and
they
only
listed
you
on
this
list.
If
you
scored
over
a
seventy
in
a
contest.
So
on
men's
it
goes
down
to
70.
Women's
is
different,
very
different.
A
A
The
person
behind
him
number
two
in
the
world
is
a
four-time
world
champion,
so
he's
hot,
a
mic
strip,
we're
hoping
that
might
makes
it
but
Mike's
been
in
the
top
10
in
the
world
for
at
least
ten
years
in
a
row,
but
he's
having
trouble
getting
in
the
first
place.
He's
in
first
place
now
is
that
that
was
rigid.
A
C
A
You'll
see
West
Virginia,
Pennsylvania,
New,
York
and
Ohio
is
a
hotbed
of
throwers
and
we
pretty
much
dominated
the
top
15
or
20
in
both
of
men
in
women's
those
four
or
five
states
are
pretty
dumb.
Of
course,
you
know
there
are
other
ones:
Arizona,
Switzerland
and
Belgium,
but
I'm.
Looking
down
there,
Ohio
New
York
Missouri
Ohio
Arizona,
Pennsylvania,
Pennsylvania,
Ohio,
New,
York,
Ohio.
C
C
A
That's
the
world
thing
in
about
somewhere
in
the
mid
90s,
a
local
man
here
named
Grace
Christian
got
interested
in
the
a
battle
him
and
his
father,
woman
named
Connie
hearts
and
two
or
three
other
people
in
Ohio
and
a
couple
people
from
other
states
formed
what
we
call
what
they
called
the
Ohio
Valley
Association
and
you'll
find
that
most
states
have
will
have
an
atlatl
Association.
They
come
and
go
because
you
know
some
people
know
they
get
disinterested
like
all
the
organization's.
Sometimes
it's
hard
to
keep
it
going.
A
Some
groups,
like
the
new,
your
github
association,
has
hundreds
of
members
and
we
probably
have
about
80
in
Ohio,
where
some
other
groups
Illinois,
might
only
have
ten
people
around
all
sociation,
but
they
still
have
one
and
they
still
try
to
have
contests
so
the
amount
of
atlatl
Association.
You
know
we
go
around
and
we've
tried,
know
the
Union
and
the
education
of
the
device
we
go
to
Boy
Scouts.
We
go
to
Girl
Scouts,
we
do
4-h
groups,
we
have
about
10
to
15
contests
in
Ohio
every
year.
There's
three.
D
A
Contests
left
in
Ohio
and
they're
on
that
piece
of
paper
with
the
web
pages,
which
I
want
you
guys
to
take.
We're
listing.
I
listed
our
last
three
competitions
next
weekend
this
coming
weekend
here
we're
going
to
get
planes
any
mountain
festival.
You
guys
want
to
come
we're
gonna,
be
there
a
couple
weeks
after
that
were
going
to
be
in
a
little
spot
in
Gloucester
and
then
the
last
weekend
of
this
month,
we're
going
to
be
it's
a
Zaleski
state
force.
A
C
A
A
With
these
in
Ohio,
it's
sealed
in
go
to
home
with
him
in
West
Virginia.
You
are
allowed
to
hunt
with
them.
You
know
high
up
on
a
private
game
reserve.
It
is
legal
in
Pennsylvania.
It
just
became
legal.
They
worked
for
years
and
years
to
do
that,
they're
working
on
it
in
New,
York,
Tennessee
I,
think
we
have
one
day,
Missouri
I,
think
of
two
or
three
days.
It's
legal.
All
the
southern
states
are
legal
and
in
Ohio
we
have
a
real
active
guy
in
insisting
that
we
really
wants
not.
With
these
things
related,
he.
A
A
Rules,
I
kind
of
doubt
it
that
you
would
have
to
go
through
any
sort
of
training
to
do
that.
There
were
I,
know
people
that
have
killed
deer
with
these
things.
I
know,
people
that
have
I
know
guy
that
killed
a
deer
with
these
on
his
very
first
shot
at
a
deer
ever
wasn't
this
first
shot
with
an
out
that,
but
it's
his
first
shot
at
a
deer.
I
know
people
that
have
killed
groundhogs
with
him
in
their
backyard,
which.
A
D
A
And
he'll
get
10
or
15
people
they'll
go
out
and
they'll
make
make
a
paddles
they'll
get
their
darts
together.
They'll
make
their
points
and
they'll
go
there
on
a
hunting
reserve.
They'll
go
after
deer,
they'll
get
the
deer
and
they'll
actually
skin
it
with
flint
and
they'll
butcher.
It
and
then
they'll
actually
start
a
fire
with
ancient
firing
techniques
and
that's
all
part
of
a
program
that
he
does
to
teach
people
how
to
go
through
this.
A
A
big
group
of
people
that
are
it
doesn't
really
affect
me
too
much,
but
I
do
you
know
the
I
can
Pennsylvania
when
they
want
to
make
it
legal
I
did
sign
the
petition
because
I
went
to
support
them.
We
have
a
guy
in
Cincinnati
that
really
wants
to
help
with
them
really
bad.
Every
year
before
hunting
season
started,
which
he
just
started
last
Saturday
for
the
boat.
He
always
calls.
D
A
C
A
C
C
A
Tried
to
if
they've
had
a
legal
for
hunting
they
might
in
Ohio,
they
might
have
five
or
ten
people
that
would
register
for
a
license,
pay
their
fifty
bucks
or
whatever
it
is,
but
I
guarantee
you
if
you
had
500
people.
That
said
them
to
have
their
one
of
the
license
tomorrow
and
they
were
going
to
pay
ahead
of
our
teacher.
Whatever
calls
for
other
person's
I
think
this
thing
I
would
change
your
mind.
C
A
That's
my
okay,
but
I,
don't
really
know
why
they
don't
why
it's
illegal.
They
do
use
these
for
fishing.
The
same
way
that
you
would
use
a
boat,
they
would
put
a
bar
tip
on
the
end
of
it
and
they
would
tie
a
string
onto
it
and
flip
it
into
water
and
fish
out.
Now
we
have
an
atlatl
contest
in
Kentucky
every
three
or
four
years
where
they
have
a
fishing
contest.
We
are
going
to
do
it
next
year.
A
We
have
done
it
for
a
couple
years,
so
it
was
part
of
their
call
that
Association
know
we
teach
people
all
around.
We
actually
one
year
went
up
to
Columbus
and
we
taught
teachers
how
to
teach
their
class,
how
to
do
it,
and
we
have
the
hands-on
thing
where
we
then
made
out
battles
right
there
we
went
to
the
semester,
we
went
to
the
Flint
Ridge
State
Park.
A
They
brought
teachers
and
Park
Rangers
in
there
and
we
taught
them
how
to
make
all
this
stuff,
how
to
do
the
feathers
and
how
to
teach
their
classes,
how
to
do
it
for
about
12
years.
It
just
ended
two
years
ago,
for
12
years
in
a
row,
we
talk
every
fifth
grader
in
Vinton
County.
How
to
do
this
last.
C
A
A
Now,
three,
two
or
three
years
ago,
the
fifth
kind
of
school
was
consolidated
into
three
schools,
and
once
that
happened,
we
went
out
there
that
one
time
only
a
couple
schools
came
because
the
school
board
was
making
this
the
individual
school
pay
for
the
school
bus
travel
out
to
there.
The
schools
couldn't
do
it
and
it
stopped
about
two
years
ago.
So
there's
not
too
many
people
in
Vinton
County
that
haven't
done
these
things
because
they
might
have
told
their
parents
about
it
too,
so
that.
A
So
these
are
you
know.
You're
welcome
to
mess
with
these
I
can
talk
about
anything
any
particular
aspect
of
them
that
you
want
to
do
that.
You
might
want
to
talk
about
these.
You
know
when
I
was
going
through
my
computer,
the
other
computer
digging
up
pictures
of
my
files
to
try
to
throw
into
this
little
presentation.
I
was
trying
to
find
things
that
would,
you
know,
show
the
banner
stones
and
show
with
the
different
kids
look
like,
but
it
was
pretty
much
impossible
for
me
to
dig
out
all
those
files.
D
A
C
A
A
They
don't
have
a
mast,
bring
these
things
forward,
which
is
that
that
I,
that
I
knew
that
did
the
same
when
I
was
talking
about
the
the
camps
of
these
things
is
that
what
makes
these
things
work
was
the
mass
in
the
front,
the
mass
drooly
things
into
the
game
and
the
indie
six
went
into
the
game
farther
than
a
bow
and
arrow
would,
even
though
the
bow
and
arrow
was
going
a
lot
faster
and
a
lot
of
true
path.
These
things
drew
way
into
the
game.
A
One
year
relationship
in
his
father,
Martin
set
up
a
couple
bales
and
they
took
the
code,
but
they
took
I'm
sorry,
they
took
the
dark
flips
a
couple
darts
into
a
PLA,
and
then
they
took
their
their
archery
equipment
and
fired
in
arrows
right.
Next
to
these,
and
these
things
were
in
a
lot
farther
than
just
because
of
the
mast
mast,
what
making
these
things
work
so
good.
Another.
A
A
Well,
any
questions:
I
have
the
Association
publishes
a
newsletter
a
couple
times
a
year,
I
bought
a
pile
of
them,
they're
of
old
newsletters
there.
Various
dates
I
just
brought
suddenly
through
here
and
you're-
welcome
to
take
one
or
two
different
ones
through
in
there
and
I'll
show
you
some
of
the
different
types
of
articles
that
we
deal
with
they'll
show
you
some
of
the
different
kinds
of
contests
we
put
together.
They'll
show
you
who
win
some
of
our
contests
and
I'll
show
you
how
to
mail
when
you're
five
dollars.
If.