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Planning Commission January 2, 2020
A
The
quorum
has
been
established,
people
who
are
expecting
to
speak
before
the
Planning
Commission
today,
if
you
would
raise
your
right
hand
and
do
you
solemnly
swear
to
tell
the
truth,
as
you
know
it,
thank
you
very
much
disposition
of
the
December
19
2019
meeting
minutes.
Are
there
any
changes,
observations.
A
B
Council
chair
this
is
the
paddle
EMS
facility
last
year,
I
believe
they
came
to
Planning
Commission,
with
with
an
introduction
they
submitted
several
sets
of
plans.
Staff
has
reviewed
those
and
we
have
a
list
of
those
on
the
memo
that
I
sent
to
you
didn't.
If
he
needed
me
to
go
over
those
or
not
the
biggest
one
is
we.
We
know
that
there's
some
issues
with
the
storm
drainage,
leaving
the
site
and
staff
and
and
the
applicant
are
working
to
address
those
issues.
C
Mr.
Riggs
noted
there
is
an
ongoing
storm
issue
over
there
and
ultimately,
it
has
to
do
with
a
major
storm
sewer
that
was
installed
back
when
the
area
was
initially
developed
in
the
eighties
and
that
that
storm
line
that
crosses
the
property
and
is
the
receiving
storm
line
for
the
facility
subsequently
outlets
in
the
vicinity
of
the
railroad
tracks.
They
go
through
there
and
then
subsequently
cross.
C
The
railroad
tracks
goes
to
the
land
behind
Morrison
elementary
school
on
down
to
Munk
markets
Creek
due
to
saltation
over
the
years
that
space
has
increased
or
that
the
the
elevation
of
the
some
surrounding
terrain
has
increased
above
the
full
line
of
the
the
invert
of
the
the
outlet
on
that
storm
sewer.
So
we've
been
working
with
the
administration
has
been
working
with
the
architects
and
engineers
and
contractors
on
how
at
least
they
can
get
their
line
built
and
connected
to
ultimately
make
that
48
inch
storm
sewer
drain.
C
It's
going
to
take
some
future
work
that
will
involve
some
Corps
of
Engineers
permitting
in
the
area
where
Morris
elementary
school
is
we're
behind.
We
believe
there's
an
opportunity
and
for
the
members
of
the
county
and
the
and
the
design
and
team
that
are
here
in
the
in
the
coming
months
as
the
plans
for
the
new
Morrison
Elementary
School
get
get
built
or
get
get
brought
to
fruition.
C
They're
gonna
have
to
be
doing
work
back
there
anyway,
and
so
I
think
they
that
the
work
that
they
have
to
do
is
going
to
require
a
404
permit
and
subsequently
solving
the
problem
associated
with
drainage.
Of
that
of
that
48
inch
sewer
can
get
solved
with
construction
of
the
new
Morrison
elementary
school,
so
hopefully
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
in
the
it's.
That's
our
that's
our
approach.
Right
now.
A
C
Be
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
speed
limits.
The
speed
limit,
35
45
their
third,
it's
40
I
thought
right.
Yeah,
that's
40
there,
it's
35
at
the
existing
driveway
for
the
existing
EMS
station.
I!
Don't
know
if
you
guys
put
any
thought
of
that
at
all
or
if
we
want
to
have
yeah
members
speak
to
that.
A
D
A
D
A
C
Mr.
Chairman
I
would
move
that
the
Planning
Commission
approve
the
EMS
station
in
accordance
with
conditions
set
forth
in
the
memorandum
that
mr.
Riggs
has
provided.
All
of
these
comments
have
already
been
provided
to
the
to
the
designers
and
contractors
and
and
they've
indicated
that
they
can
comply
with
these.
Yes,.
A
F
Good
afternoon,
this
is
our
second
time
on
the
introductory
meeting
back
on
the
5th
of
December.
This
is
Josh
most
here
present
at
Weston
construction
representing
Ohio
University
credit
union
for
a
proposed
construction
of
a
two-story
addition,
9:44
East,
State
Street
I,
have
with
me
in
a
design
team,
Jim
Rudy
from
Jay
Rudy
architects,
along
with
Ken
white
from
dlz
engineering,
performed
the
civil
construction
documents.
F
A
F
It
will
be
seven
thousand
and
85
square
feet
with
total,
with
a
30,
roughly
3500
square
feet
per
floor,
it
will
house
their
their
operations
group,
as
well
as
the
executive
team
and
collaboration
area.
On
the
second
floor,
there
the
reason
and
reason
why
they're
pursuing
the
addition
is
that
they're,
currently
growing
and
out
of
space
at
both
their
90
South,
Shafer,
Street
and
they're
12
West
Union
facility.
So
this
will
enable
them
to
substantiate
the
growth
that
they've
incurred,
which
is
a
good
thing
here
in
the
community.
F
F
Roughly,
we
are
adding
another
22
parking
spaces
and
that
would
enable
each
staff
member
to
have
a
parking
space
at
the
original
97
and
then
the
growth
of
the
additional
staff
that
will
be
in
the
addition
and
allow
422
parking
spaces
that
are
designated
for
membership
parking
in
the
front
and
side
of
the
buildings,
and
that
is
that's
shown
on
the
site
plan.
You
have
a
copy
of
the
site
plan
in
front
of
you
on
your
desk,
and
that
is
the
current
civil
site
plans
that
have
been
submitted.
F
We've
also
addressed
a
number
of
the
comments
that
were
provided
by
the
code
director,
mr.
Riggs,
and
from
the
police
chief,
as
well
as
the
fire
chief
and
EMS,
and
we
also
will
address
and
our
isn't
dress
is
mr.
stones
comment
at
the
last
12/5
meeting,
which
was
for
doing
performing
best
practices
for
5.07
of
0.09
of
the
requirement
to
prevent
control
and
reduce
stormwater
pollutants
by
the
use
of
best
management
practices.
F
We've
also
included
that
and
I'll
go
over
those
three
items
within
detail
here
in
just
a
moment
so
that
you
have
a
copy
in
front
of
you.
We
have
compiled
all
of
our
documents,
all
the
construction
documents,
including
the
structural
mechanical
electrical
plumbing
and
civil,
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
and
submitted
to
the
state
for
a
building
permit
on
the
24th
that
has
now
been
assigned
and
is
currently
in
review,
with
a
potential
of
a
two-week
turnaround.
At
that
time.
We
will
then
compile
and
finish
our
zoning
application.
F
F
Hc6
if
you'll
take
a
look
at
that,
specifically
you
mr.
stone
we've
installed
a
rain
garden
and
I'll.
Let
Ken
from
dlz
give
you
the
details
on
that,
but
basically
it's
we
have
a
flat
roof
and
that
roof
has
two
points
of
water
ejection.
We
picked
up
the
roof
drain
there
to
grab
water
from
the
building
before
it
goes
down
site
and
then
to
the
river
Ken.
Could
you
just
give
mr.
stone.
G
And
the
council,
the
the
rain
garden,
is
wedged
there
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
essentially
he's
going
to
have
a
two-foot
bottom
with
with
for
one
side
slopes.
There's
the
cross
sectional
detail
sheet
sees
six
to
the
outlet
would
be
a
beehive
grave
and
there
will
be
about
six
inches
of
storage
in
the
bottom
of
the
Swale,
with
some
bio
media.
It's
a
filter,
the
rainwater
and
then
I
clean
out
at
the
upstream
end
to
clean
out
the
under
drain
unnecessary
on
the
landscape
plan,
which
is
the
last
sheet
of
the
set
there.
F
G
C
Let's
see
I'm
antsy,
that's
right
in
line
with
what
I
was
at
okay
I
see
it
here,
I
see
six
now
it's
that
stretch
right
along
there
yeah.
That's
that's
exactly
what
what
we
were
trying
to
get
at
with
that
section
of
code.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
taking
that.
Taking
that
no
too
hard
yeah.
Thank
you.
F
And
then
I'll
briefly,
read
police
chief
captain
Ralph
Harvey's
comments
and
then
respond
to
it,
which
we've
also
addressed
prior
before
going
into
building,
permit
basically
didn't
have
any
real
commentary
on
the
plans
other
than
he
did
not
see
a
corresponding
marking
on
the
plans
for
light
poles.
So
he
had
saw
those
on
the
renderings
we
provided,
but
on
the
last
set
we
had
existing
and
a
couple
cold
lights,
relocated
we've
set
due
to
his
support
of
the
additional
north
parking
and
new
access.
F
According
to
his
commentary,
the
plane
looks
good
from
his
perspective
and
noticed
a
second
entrance
proposal,
which
is
the
northwest
corner
from
the
access
road,
which
is
the
mclaren
way
on
the
west
side
of
the
plan,
and
he
saw
a
lot
of
benefit
for
his
patrol
pedestrian
safety
and
access
and
would
suggest
support
that
we
that
it
be
installed,
as
well
as
the
additional
parking
that
is
also
proposed.
So
we
have
actually
from
since
that
time
frame
we
have
in
his
original
plans.
We
have
added
I,
think
it's
the
other
site.
F
Well,
that's
that's
the
landscape,
okay
on
the
c5,
and
you
also
see
that
on
your
site
improvement
plan,
but
on
your
sheets,
you'll
see
that
we've
added
three
additional
parking
lights
to
to
the
north
and
then
one
on
the
west
to
cover
the
addition,
as
well
as
the
new
parking
area
and
then
we've
also
maintained
all
the
existing
site
lighting.
So
we
haven't
subtracted
anything.
F
We've
actually
replaced,
relocated
and
added
three
additional
pole
lights
and
then,
with
our
zoning,
submission
will
will
provide
the
light
output
plan
photo
metrics
to
show
the
appropriate
coverage
and
then,
as
I
said,
captain
Ralph
Harvey
was
in
support
of
the
additional
parking
at
the
north,
as
well
as
the
north
entrance.
Tying
back
to
that.
I
will
just
state
that
we
have
an
easement
agreement
adopted
and
drafted.
F
We
will
have
it
signed
here
by
the
end
of
the
week
with
James
and
Bonnie
McLaren,
as
well
as
the
credit
union,
and
this
would
be
for
I've
highlighted
on
the
on
this
plan,
but
we
will
be
widening
the
15-foot
existing
McLaren
Drive,
which
is
in
front
of
or
to
the
east
of
the
existing
trailers
that
are
on
the
west
side
of
the
building.
In
order
for
us
to
create
the
new
northwest
corner
entrance
into
the
parking
lot.
So
we'll
be
widening.
F
This
there's
an
existing
easements
in
place
for
access
for
the
credit
union
to
go
into
the
existing
west
southwest
entrance
exit,
and
so
they've
agreed
to
allow
us
the
credit
union
to
widen
the
McLaren
Avenue.
So
I
have
that
agreement
in
place.
They'll
be
signing
that
and
executing
it,
and
I
will
provide
copy
of
that.
Mr.
Riggs,
upon
completion,
C
Fire,
Chief
Robert
rhymer
also
responded
with
comments
basically
stated
that
he
had
no
comments
and
that
we
would
provide
copies
of
our
permit
plans
once
they're
approved
by
the
state,
which
we
will
do.
F
So
the
existing
building
does
not
have
a
fire
alarm
or
fire
suppression
plan.
We
are
zoned
in
in
construction
5b,
which
is
not
a
requirement
to
have
a
fire
suppression
or
fire
alarm
system
in
place,
so
we're
matching
the
existing
construction.
We're
not
installing
an
additional
fire
alarm
for
the
separate
separation
of
the
building.
The
building
is
technically
a
separate
structure
adjoining
the
existing
building
with
two
openings.
So
it's
a
complete
independent
structure.
H
C
Questions
the
your
to
your
point
about
lighting.
You
know,
there's
a
provision
of
the
zoning
code
that
talks
about
dark
skies
and
light
pollution.
It's
just
requires
to
cut
off
type
lights
and
I
think
the
other
existing
site
lighting
is
that
way
already
I'm
assuming,
even
though-
and
you
do
no
reason
to
resubmit
but
I'm
assuming
your
your
fixtures
are
such
that
they
would
be
that
kind
of
fixture.
They.
F
A
E
E
G
So
the
the
grade
on
the
sides
of
the
building,
because
it's
planned
towards
the
north
of
the
property
and
it's
easier
from
constructability
standpoint-
to
build
them
without
having
to
tear
up
additional
parking
lot
so
they're
all
just
clustered
with
the
existing
spaces.
So.
E
F
Not
based
on
the
quantity
that's
required
based
on
the
square
footage
per
code,
but
what
what
they're
currently
doing
is
no
different
than
what
we
are
proposing.
So
the
only
handicap
spaces
accessible
spaces
are
in
the
front
so
that
the
any
existing
staff
that
would
require
the
use
of
those
are
there
as
well.
So
they're,
currently
doing
the
exact
same
thing
that
they're
doing
in
the
new
addition
versus
the
existing
and.
C
Mr.
chair
tonight
one
other
item
and
missus,
not
so
much
questioned
it
just
as
a
statement
and
for
the
leadership
of
the
the
credit
union
news
here,
I've
met
previously
on
existing
kind
of
headquarters
of
the
of
the
the
shaper
street,
not
headquarters,
I,
guess
the
more.
The
administrative
offices
are
the
shaper,
Street
location
and,
and
you
know
we
are
willing
to
help
the
credit
union.
C
If
you
do
any
redevelopment
in
that
area,
because
we
see
that
as
an
important
part
of
the
city,
we've
got
the
Union
Street
project,
there's
going
to
take
place
here
in
future
years,
and
so
we
still
say
keenly
interested
in
in
whatever
you
plan
on
doing
down
there
and
and
are
certainly
willing
to
help
and
and
bring
that
to
fruition.
If
you
do
have
redevelopment
plans
on
down
the
road.
J
I
A
C
A
J
I
A
C
Can
speak
to
that
if
that
would
be
helpful.
So
at
our
last
meeting
we
we
talked
about
the
administration's
proposal
of
basically
shortening
the
amount
of
time
that
somebody
was
renting
their
home
from
six
months
to
any
time
that
someone
was
renting
their
home,
they
would
be
required
to
get
a
rental
permit
and
just
modifying
under
the
r-1
provision
in
title
23
that
that
a
rental
permit
would
be
required
for
any
duration
and.
C
In
that
instance,
with
our
previous
iteration
of
this
a
existing
where
a
home
so
long
as
they
were
following
the
rental
regulations
with
either
two
resident
owners
or
three
non-resident
non-related
folks
could
rent
a
home
in
in
in
the
r-1.
It
could
end
up
being
a
you,
could
have
a
short-term
rental
and
disregard
into
the
regulatory
structure
that
we
have
put
forward
in
our
one
following
those
current
rental
requirements.
C
Well,
we
heard
basically
in
our
last
meeting
was
that
you
know
even
that
was
too
objectionable
for
some
of
the
concerns,
and
so
we
went
back
and
we
further
restricted
it
and
that's
what
you
have
in
front
of
you.
So
what
we
propose
changing
is
in
right
now,
in
section
five
under
the
the
permitted
uses
in
the
r1,
it
has
rentals.
C
We
would
change
it
and
we
would
add
a
section
6
and
then
renumber
the
rest
of
the
the
items
in
there
and
so
section
5
would
be
changed
to
long
term
rentals
and
sections
which
would
be
short-term
rentals.
The
section
5
long-term
rentals
is
basically
any
time
that
the
existing
conditions,
basically
resident
renters
to
renters
by
resident
owner
or
three
unrelated,
non-resident
renters
for
periods
of
greater
than
30
days
would
be
classified
as
long-term,
renters
and
you'd
have
to
get
permit.
C
C
You
know
we
can't
use
the
phrase
homestay,
because
that's
a
that's
a
copyrighted
phrase,
but
the
concept
would
be
if
you
had
a
spare
room
and
you
were
a
resident
owner,
you
could
just
like
right
now
you
can
rent
to
to
to
own
to
to
renters
as
a
resident
owner
as
well
as
a
normal
rental.
You
would
be
able
to
do
so
for
a
short
term
rental.
You
would
not
be
able
to
do
to
non-residents
renters
in
a
short
term
capacity.
So
that's
basically
that
change
there.
C
All
the
other
changes
are
the
ones
that
we
had
made
previously
or
we
had
recommended
previously,
and
those
are
reflected
in
your
in
your
document
in
blue
and
and
we
would
contend
that
the
we
would
recommend
going
back
to
the
City
Council
that
they
also
take
up
the
changes
we've
proposed
in
titles
15
and
29,
which
are
the
income
tax
and
the
and
the
I'm.
Sorry,
not
income
tax,
transient
guests
tax
and
the
housing,
the
housing
code
to
require
rental
permits
for
periods.
C
C
I
B
B
Actually,
there
are
two
different
I:
don't
want
to
get
too
complicated
for
you,
but
they're
actually
two
different
ways:
the
zoning
would
or
the
the
conditional
use
would
be
approved.
One
would
be
through
the
zoning
so
for
parking.
You'd
have
the
zoning
approval
part
of
the
bza,
but
if
it
had
to
do
with
with
structure
itself
the
house,
the
route
property
itself
that
would
go
through
a
different
Housing
Board
would
have
to
approve
that
okay.
J
J
J
F
B
J
C
J
J
It's
an
interpretation,
I
mean.
Could
we
have
a
map?
Sometime
of
these
I
mean,
if
have
you
walked
down
the
streets
and
looked
at
well,
it's
gonna
be
I'm.
Just
a
little
bit
worried
about
some
areas,
there's
not
much
parking
in
some
places.
I
can
see
a
few
being
really
good
bed
and
breakfast
or
whatever
they
see
our
videos,
but
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
want
to
give
you
trouble
cuz
I'm,
happy
that
we're
making
progress,
but
do.
C
C
Agree
I
mean
just
as
a
is
no
ability
to
conduct
enforcement
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
useful
tool.
It's.
J
C
You
know
that's
their
very
but
for
say,
for
instance,
number
six
here
in
the
beginning,
you
know
that's
not
a
variant
situation,
you
would
have
to
I
mean
I,
guess
you
could
go
and
see
a
variance,
but
you
know
we
don't.
For
someone
who
wants
to
have
a
resonance
rendered
basically
run
out
of
spare
room.
They
got
a
parking
space.
Flan
wonders.
I
C
J
C
J
C
J
C
C
A
J
A
C
A
C
C
Even
pass
out
furniture,
we
talked
about
enforcement,
that's
the
other
thing.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
the
Commission's
and
the
challenges
of
enforcing,
particularly
under
the
licensing
provisions
and
how
you
know
we
have
some
concerns
about
trying
to
do
licenses.
The
mechanism
for
enforcement
versus
permits
under
the
rental
permit
thing,
and
mr.
Riggs
has
signed
up
the
city
with
a
monitoring
service,
and
this
gives
you
an
indication
if
you
want
to
speak
to
this.
What
we're?
B
So
there's
a
company
called
host
compliance
that
we've
got
a
contract
with
for
a
year
to
look
at
which
units
which
houses
are
doing
short-term
rentals
and
so
what
they
would
do.
Is
they
look
at
over
50
internet
websites
to
see
where
they're
advertising,
because
that's
the
vast
majority
of
the
of
these,
these
sites
use
the
internet
to
advertise
and
we
found
we've
pinpointed
some
sites
in
the
city
of
Athens
and
I.
Think
there's
31
total
sites
that
we
have,
and
these
are
units
not
not
necessary,
addresses
what.
B
C
B
Sorry,
no,
no
yeah,
so
we
think
there's
a
total
of
15
addresses
in
that
are
currently
in
an
r1
zone
that
are
using
doing
short-term
rentals
at
this
time.
We're
trying
to
to
be
more
accurate
with
data.
This
is
the
first
week
that
I've
seen
it
and
we
don't
really
have
a
good
shape
file
for
the
company
doesn't
have
a
good
shape
file
for
the
city's
Corp
limits,
so
I
was
looking
and
trying
to
guess
which
ones
were
inside
the
Corp
limits.
I
think
you
can
do
that
fairly
accurately.
B
Here
we
will
be
providing
Paul,
be
providing
a
shapefile
to
the
company,
so
that
we'll
know
exactly
how
many
units
will
be
located
inside
limits
also
had
a
couple
questions
about
whether
the
some
of
these
were
duplicates
and
I'll
do
some
more
research
on
that
trying
to
figure
it
out.
This
is
my
first
stab
at
seeing
it
for
the
for
the
first
couple
of
days
of
this
of
this
program,
so
there
are
some
units
out
there
that
are
being
that
are
being
listed
to
short-term
rentals,
and
this
is
just
for
this.
B
B
They
they
do
a
weekly
report
for
us
that
will
show
every
week
which
which
addresses
are
being
advertised
on
the
on
the
Internet
and
we'll
keep
the
track,
will
keep
track
record
of
that
keep
so
we'll
know
exactly
how
how
many
units
are
being
advertised,
not
that
they're
being
used
but
are
being
advertised
in
the
corporate
limits.
They
have
other
features
that
we
can
look
at
the
future.
That
can
give
us
more
information
right
now,
with
this
number
of
units.
I
think
that's
something
that
the
that
the
code
office
could
manage.
B
C
Know,
I
think
the
good
news
with
this
tool
is
that
you
know
you
got
your
list
of
the
permitted
structures
basically
and
then
this
tool,
pops
and
you
cross-reference
it
on
a
weekly
basis,
because
it's
frequent,
you
know,
with
the
beat
way
that
people
advertise
and
such
and
if
something
pops,
that's
not
on
that
list.
You
know
that's
a
that's
a
good
officer
at
the
door
going
hey
you're,
not
here
doing
yeah.
What
are
you
doing?
You're,
not
in
compliance
number
one.
The
number
two.
A
B
K
C
I
mean
it's
you
basically
unpermitted
rentals
is
what
it
would
be
correct,
which
is
which
happens
in
Athens
and
and
and
you
know,
we
take
people
and
we
take
people
to
court
and
they
write
ten.
You
know
because
our
system
is
at
least
in
my
observation
over
the
years
is
mature
as
far
as
our
rental
permit
system
and
has
worked.
I
E
B
Several
of
them
said
it
was
an
economic
economic
lee
feasible
for
him
because
of
the
cost
of
cleaning
the
rooms
and
having
to
prepare
them
with.
You
know
they
have
to
have
all
the
furnishings
and
stuff
installed
and
they
just
wasn't
convey
economically
feasible
form
and
they
weren't
interested
in
doing
that.
So
we
did
have
a
couple
of
couple
of
bigger
units
that
we're
doing
one
or
two
short-term
rentals.
C
One
of
the
the
biggest
things
we
found
doing
our
research
and
I
mean
to
belabor
that
particular
point,
but
is
the
idea
of
something
flipping
back
and
forth
between
like
a
normal,
longer-term
rental
and
a
short-term
rental?
Really
the
the
furniture
is
the
is
the
barrier
because
decor
and
furniture,
if
you're
going
to
have
something
that
you
are
going
to
advertise
and
rent
short
term
similar
to
a
hotel
room.
You
got
to
have
it
furnished
and
it's
got
to
look.
Nice
and
people
want
to
stay
there.
C
If
you've
got
a
vacant
house
that
you
used
to
rent
to
people
for
long
Turner
and
they
all
move
their
furniture
out,
you're,
not
gonna,
buy
you
know,
bedroom,
suits
and
and
and
living-room
furniture
and
coffee,
making
coffee
makers
and
all
those
things.
In
order
to
make
it,
you
know
be
able
to
be
a
short-term
rental
flip
back
and
forth.
That's
just
not
something
that
people
people
will
do.
They'll
use
it
for
one
or
the
other,
but
the
ability
or
to
have
something
flip
back
and
forth
is
much
much
less
likely.
E
It
has
one
recreational
two
utility
stations
three
has
been
struck
through,
but
then
it
goes
back
to
two
again
for
short-term
levels.
Again.
This
is
unless
this
is
a
MacLean
dot.
That
would
need
to
change
to
number
three
and
then
sequentially
after
that.
Make
sure
that
the
recipe
of
numbering
is
a
miniature.
Yes,.
C
C
E
C
Did
we
did
it
by
generally
agreed
upon
neighborhood
boundaries?
I?
Don't
have
all
the
figures
with
me
this
morning
or
this
afternoon,
but
what
we
looked
at
was
you
know.
Conventional
wisdom
in
Athens
is
that
75%
of
the
housing
units
in
Athens
are
rental.
Only
25%
of
the
housing
units
in
Athens
is
owner
occupied.
If
we're
looking
at
the
city
as
a
whole.
That
is
correct,
and
that
includes
all
the
our
three
zones.
However,
what
we
started
doing
was
looking
at
the
actual
are
one
neighborhoods,
forty
percent
of
the
land
use
in
Athens?
C
If
you
look
on
that
map
they're
forty
percent
is
our
single-family
zoning
within
each
of
those
neighborhoods.
What
we
looked
at
the
Far
East
Side
neighborhood
had
about
ten
ten
or
eleven
percent
of
the
parcels
in
the
far
east
side
of
the
land
of
the
parcels
were
had
rental
permits
on
them
on
the
Near
East
Side,
it
was
about
twenty-eight
percent
on
the
West
Side.
It
was
about
30
or
33
percent.
The
south
side
was
very
low
only
about
six
percent,
I
believe
total
and
then
the
on
the
noon
or
the
Near
North
Side.
C
That
was
at
about
twenty
eight
percent,
so
kind
of
looking
at
it
and
part
of
the
part
of
the
part
of
what
we
wanted
to
learn
was
most
cities
of
our
size,
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
rental
units,
especially
in
the
large,
the
style
that
we
have
in
Athens,
because
we
are
a
rental
community.
We
have
a
lot
of
transients
in
this
city,
people
that
live
here
for
three
to
four
years,
five
years
and
then
they're
gone.
C
And
so
of
course
there
is
a
lot
of
demand
for
Reynolds,
because
they're
not
going
to
be
long-term
residents
here.
A
lot
of
cities
of
our
size
have
none
of
that
type
of
housing
because
they
don't
have
transients.
It
is
all
fixed,
fixed
property
in
a
typical
neighborhood
or
a
typical
city
that
doesn't
have
a
skewed
percentage
of
the
people
who
are
transients,
you'll,
see
that
generally
it's
75
percent
owner
occupied
and
25
percent
rental,
and
so
what
we
did
with.
Let's.
C
Well,
let's
actually
look
to
single-family
zones,
and
what
we
found
is
that,
within
our
single-family
zones
we
are
more
or
less
at
about
25
percent
even
lower.
In
many
of
our
neighborhoods
25%
of
the
parcels
are
for
rental,
so
we're
actually
doing
good.
At
my
point,
our
neighborhoods
are
in
when
you're
looking
at
it
from
an
r1
perspective.
We
are
in
line
with
what's
typical,
of
a
normal
city
that
doesn't
have
a
large
transient
group
of
college
students.
C
So
when
you
see
75
percent
of
Athens
is,
is
rental
property?
You
know,
800
of
those
units
are
kind
of
goods
run.
You
know,
so
those
mirandos
those
large
complexes
kind
of
skew
that
when
we
talk
about
the
percentage
of
our
overall
housing
stock,
that's
rental
but
in
the
r-1
zone,
so
specifically
where
we're
about
on
average
or
even
better
yeah.
There's
a
lot
of
communities,
so
I
didn't
mean
to
I'm
sorry
about
half
of
all
the
rental
permits
in
Athens
are
sitting
on
ten
parcels
yeah.
J
C
A
M
C
C
Know
protected
is
probably
we
basically
further
restricted
the
proposal
from
the
last
time,
which
was
use
the
existing
rental
permit
system
and
apply
it
to
short-term
rentals
everywhere
and
now
say
that
the
existing
rental
permit
program
would
be
applied.
But
you
couldn't
do
short-term
rentals
with
not
under
occupied
residences
in
our
one
neighborhood.
M
C
A
A
M
M
M
M
M
C
C
C
M
Say
the
house
is
on
Lancaster
and
it's
two
lights
down
for
me,
because
I
think
there's
four
or
five
lots
that
are
through
Lots
there.
It
was
to
Lots
down
for
me,
then
I
would
not
even
be
notified
that
that
house
on
Lancaster
would
be
short-term
rental.
That
does
not
have
to
be
owner-occupied,
and
that
was
one
of
the
big
problems
so
you're
going
to
have
that
situation
and
I
would
not
be
notified.
M
It
would
be
two
Lots
down
for
me
because
I
would
not
have
bucked
that
property,
even
in
the
rear,
which
is
how
they
notify
under
the
BCA
right
and
so
there
there
could
be.
Two
of
these
I
mean
there's
there's
a
couple
of
empty
houses
up
there
and
they
have
not
been
able
to
be
rented,
so
somebody
could
start
doing
short-term
rentals
non-resonant
owner,
and
that
would
be
a
situation
that
could
get
out
of
control
but
right
across
the
street
from
me,
which
is
difficult
for
me.
So
I
think
that's
I
agree
with
Nancy.
M
And
and
that's
not
not
the
intent
of
a
BCS
I
think
Nancy
and
I
understand
that,
but-
and
so
this
this
could
be
really
troubling
for
me,
because
then
right
across
the
street,
from
a
walk
up
to
the
sidewalk
into
my
car
and
if
on
weekends,
this,
what
could
be
a
very
nice
situation
could
turn
into
a
very
bad
situation.
For
me,
I'd.
N
N
It
will
essentially
allow
two
people
to
rent
a
house
for
a
short
term
in
an
hour
one
neighborhood,
without
the
owner
being
there
or
living
there.
It
says
resident
owner.
But
what
does
that
mean?
Does
that
mean
that
there
is
an
owner
of
that
residence,
who's
renting
it
out
and
living
there
so
that
they
could
leave
town
to
be
gone
for
six
months
in
Florida
and
rent
consistently
over
and
over
again
on
weekends,
to
two
people
in
an
r1?
C
Don't
I,
don't
think
so,
I
mean
when
I
think
about
resident
owners
when
people
get
rental
permits
now
as
a
resident
owner
for
like
having
a
room,
a
rumor.
Basically,
they
live
there
right
right
and
then
they're,
not
they're,
not
leaving
they're,
not
there
they're
physically
in
the
place,
it
would
not
be
I
think
it
would
be
categorized
as
a
as
a
non-resident
owner.
C
If
you,
you
know,
left
town
for
six
months
ago
to
four
or
four
months
or
one
month
to
go
somewhere
and
then
turn
it
over
to
somebody
that
would
be
a
non-resident
owner
and
then
the
zoning
would
kick
in
I.
That's
how
we
would
interpret
it
any
way.
That
would
not
be
the
intent
of
this.
The
intent
of
this
change
was
to
make
it
stricter,
based
on
the
feedback
we
were
getting
to,
where
you
know
you
know
short
of
you
know
renting
out
the
spare
bedroom
that
you
have.
C
N
You
want
the
owner
to
be
there
at
the
time,
but
yet
how
can
that
be
insured
and
you're
still,
basically
you're
still
bringing
people
into
an
r1
neighborhood
who
are
renting
short-term,
so
the
only
real
safeguards
you're
sort
of
giving
us
is
that
is
that
you're
expecting
that
owner
to
be
there
on
the
property?
All
the
time
is
that
what
we're
supposed
to
you.
C
Know
I
guess
I
mean
to
the
to
the
Commission
I
hear
you
know
we
did
everything
we
could
to
make
this
as
restrictive
as
possible
without
completely
just
outlawing
it.
You
know,
because
there's
a
there's,
a
certain
amount
of
people
that
came
before
this,
this
body.
That
said
hey,
we
we
want
to
do
this
and
so
we're
trying
to
give
a
common
sense
response
back
that
that
allows
us
to
have
a
real,
strict
regulation.
N
Right
right,
yeah,
I'm
agreeing
with
that
or
not
so
you're,
not
issuing
a
total
ban,
I'm
totally
understandable
in
the
r1
you're,
still
opening
the
door
to
it
and
I
just
have
this
feeling
that
part
of
it
is
what
I
want
to
keep
hearing
I've
heard
this
in
the
community
is
that
well,
people
are
doing
it
anyway.
We
may
as
well
make
it
legal
and
and
enforce
it,
and
then
the
enforcement
part
is
fuzzy
or
well.
N
So
now
those
of
us
who've,
been
living
in
the
r1,
are
being
told
you
kind
of
have
to
swallow
this
now,
because
some
people
did
it
already
and
we
don't
want
to
get
them
mad
and
get
them
all
upset,
but
I
would
say
they
were
breaking
the
law
from
the
beginning.
It's
never
been
legal
in
an
r1,
but
they've
been
permitted
and
to
just
open
it
now.
N
A
L
They
are
going
to
be
there
as
a
host.
They
are
going
to
present
Athens
as
a
positive
progressive
place
and
they
are
going
to
tell
those
people
about
all
the
little
places
they
can
go
to
eat
the
things
they
can
find.
I
think
Athens
is
very
progressive.
There
is
no
way
that
you
want
to
have
a
reputation
of
banning
the
sharing
economy
because
Millennials
that's
what
they're
into
that's.
What's
going
to
be,
Athens
is
progressive
and
we
cannot
have
a
reputation
of
no
having
none
of
these
things
in
our
in
our
neighborhoods
of
banning
it.
L
So
that
is
just
not
going
to
be
possible.
It's
not
illegal
now,
but
what
the
city
has
been
trying
to
do
is
put
in
very
strict
regulations
so
that
we
do
control
it
so
that
we
do
not
have
the
problems.
Other
places
have
had
with
party
houses
and
all
of
that
in
our
neighborhoods
and
so
I
think
that
it's
very
important
that
we,
you
know,
look
at
this,
and
it
is
important
to
have
the
details
of
how
it's
its
laid
out,
but
I
do
think
that
it
can
actually
increase
home
ownership
in
our
r1
neighborhoods.
L
It
can
actually
have
places.
People
have
a
little
extra
money
to
clean
them
up
just
what
you're
saying
no
one's
going
to
go
and
stay
in
a
place
that
doesn't
look
nice,
so
people
are
going
to
have
to
increase
or
improve
their
properties
and
I
just
feel
it
is
a
very
positive
thing,
but
I
feel
very
strongly
that
we
do
want
this
regulation
and
I
think
homer
home
owner-occupied
is
the
key
thing.
It
won't
work
for
everybody
I
think.
Maybe
there
are
long
term
renters
that
it
might
work
for.
L
L
O
So
if
we
have
inception
five,
something
that
says
that
if
you
live
in
a
house,
I'll
see
you
through
it
short
time
for
two
people,
then
we
get
to
six
and
it
says:
if
you
live
in
a
house,
you
can
rent
short-term
to
two
people.
If
you
get
the
conditional
use
permit,
am
I
confused
I
seem
to
be
okay,
please
explain
one
more
time.
What's
the
difference.
O
There
are
instructions
and
then
I
guess
my
next
concern
is:
how
do
you
get
that
conditional
use
permit
and
I
know
that
that
depends
very
much
on
the
members.
If
it
comes
to
Zoning
depends
on
the
Zoning
Board
members
and
their
own
experiences
and
prejudices
and
thoughts
at
the
moment,
and
it
also
depends
obviously
on
the
zoning
code
and
whoever's
giving
these
permissions.
So
if
that
just
becomes
so
frequent
that
it's
just
sort
of
automatic
and
I
think
you've
got
a
problem
and
I
guess
I'm
concerned
about
what
will
the
parking
restriction
restrictions
be?
O
O
All
the
Lots
in
my
area
of
5,500,
so
the
houses
are
very
close
together.
Most
of
the
parking
is
in
driveways,
which
are
relatively
short.
Some
of
the
driveways
are
shared,
so
will
this
be
on
street
parking
driveway
parking
extra
parking
that
really
exists.
What
what?
What
can
I,
if,
if
this
goes
through
to
the
City
Council,
they
love
it,
and
it's
all
done,
then,
how
can
I
be
sure
that
things
are
really
executed
in
the
way
that
you
hope
and
intend
that
they
should
be
I.
C
Understand
if
you
were
to
get
a
rental
permit
right
now
for
a
residence
owner
for
a
renter,
and
you
were
doing
it
in
a
situation
where
you
previously
didn't
right
before
and
you
were
getting
inspected
for
that
permit
and
they
were
looking
at
the
wall
controls
in
parking.
How
would
that?
How
would
that
work
like
say,
for
instance,
a
31:31
firewood
I,
think
it
could
be
towards
towards
Lance
or
towards
David
go.
K
C
K
O
A
K
K
K
C
P
P
P
Spelled
out
on
that
document,
yes,
okay!
Thank
you,
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
very,
very,
very
much
for
that
concession
or
decision
that
you've
made
in
regards
to
that
I.
Don't
really
understand
all
these
other
things
exactly
as
far
as
what
this
kasinski
and
miss
Holly
we're
talking
about,
but
where
you
are
going
to
I
think
allow.
M
Aliens,
yes,
I'm,
sorry
junker,
nan,
ski
56
mile
street,
under
the
short-term
rental,
and
they
get
them
a
short-term
rental
permit
correct,
correct
because
they've
been
they
won't,
have
to
pay
the
guests,
tax,
etc,
etc.
So
does
that
make
them
a
business
and
if
so,
how
does
that
interact
with
the
regulations
for
having
a
business
in
an
r1
zone?
M
E
M
Except
that
they're,
because
they're
paying
to
guests
tax
and
that
puts
them
into
categories
of
transient
guests,
tax,
for
hotels,
motels,
etc,
etc.
So
and
unfortunately,
didn't
burn
night
on
my
guidelines
with
me.
So
and
I've
only
vaguely
remember
some
of
those
regulations,
but
but
that
was
one
of
my
questions
and
then
how
do
people
that
have
businesses
then
look
at
this
and
say
well,
then
I'm
not
sure,
that's
a
conflict
that
I
think
it
could
be
a
conflict
I.
M
M
The
that
that
is
the
type
of
business
that
is
occurring
here.
It's
just
you
know,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
clear
enough
to
make
short-term
rentals
a
dwelling
unit
offered
for
rent
in
part,
and
then
we
it
was
scratched
up.
These
can
be
home,
stays
bed
and
breakfasts
or
turrets
homes.
You
know,
hi,
everybody
revised
code
does
a
lot
for
bed
and
breakfast
so.
A
A
Can
come
to
a
reasonable
conclude
that
that
kind
of
stuff
is
allowable
if
you're
talking
about
someone
who's
going
out
of
town
right
and
renting
that
that
would
be
I
think
the
issue
that
I
would
have
on
that?
Okay,
if
someone
has
to
go
to
work,
yeah
someone
just
something
that
nature.
That's
one
thing
get
a
haircut,
but
you
know
so.
C
A
J
Ahead
I
was
just
gonna
suggest
that
a
property
manager
couldn't
fill
that
function
may
not
be
acceptable,
but
when
I
rent
a
house
next
door
to
me,
I
went
to
see
my
grandchildren
at
Christmas.
I
gave
you
know,
I
have
told
them
they
have
the
number.
If
something
happens,
if
the
water
line
breaks
mm-hmm
but
of
course,
I'm
renting
to
adults,
yeah.
A
I
would
just
want
to
assist
a
sense
that
if
something
happened
at
the
house
and
owner
was
away-
and
this
has
been
who
who
is
responsible
when
the
police
or
the
fire
department
come
and
tried
to
resolve
some
issue?
No,
it's
just
people,
just
the
renter's
right.
That's
the
only
thing
I'm
trying
to
my
Contra
noise.
A
B
J
C
You
know
back
to
the
mayor's
question
of
the
planner
regarding,
but
you
don't
mind
mr.
chair:
if
I
could
speak
to
this
sure,
you
know
I
guess
it
would
be
both.
You
know
really.
L
E
A
C
Well,
happy
new
year
start
with
that
and
I
will
keep
it
brief.
Since
we've
been
here
a
while,
we
fully
anticipate
that
the
draft
conference
that's
plan
will
be
ready
within
the
next
two
weeks.
Once
we
have
that
out
there
for
public
distribution,
we
will
then
very
early
and
everywhere,
most
likely,
if
you
ask
the
Planning,
Commission
and
City
Council,
for
support
to
move
forward
with
it
and
assuming
that
that
there
is
support
to
move
forward
with
it.
C
My
first
go
as
far
as
implementation
of
our
plan
will
be
to
do
a
large-scale
audit
of
all
of
our
city
codes
to
try
to
bring
them
into
conformance
with
our
development
goals
and
our
planning
goals,
so
that
would
include
subdivision
regulations.
Zoning
code,
landscaping
regulations,
floodplain.
All
of
that
to
try
to
really
look
at
our
look
at
the
city
as
a
whole
and
figure
out.
You
know:
can
we
actually
achieve
what
we
want
to
achieve
based
upon
the
rules
that
we
have
in
place,
and
if
not,
what
rules
do
we
need
to
be
addressing?