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Athens Planning Commission July 1, 2021
A
That
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
While
speaking
for
the
planning
commission,
wonderful,
we
cases
we
have
none.
Today
communications,
we
do
have
athens
city
council
resolution,
r-10-21
request
to
consider
amending
athens
city
code,
title
23,
zoning
code
off
street
parking
and
table
b
off
street
parking
requirements.
B
We've
also
worked
extensively
on
the
parking
lot
and
our
parking
garage
and
the
hours
uptown
to
make
our
management
of
our
uptown
paid
parking.
Visitor
parking,
well
managed
and
able
to
hold
the
amount
of
traffic.
That's
coming
up
there.
So
the
last
part
of
the
parking
puzzle
is
this
off
street
parking.
B
So
we've
been
talking
about
it,
also
in
the
comprehensive
plan
through
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
hours.
So
I'm
just
going
to
read
this
because
it's
just
easier
parking,
the
thought
of
parking
makes
many
a
bureaucrat
weak
need
parking
or
more
specifically,
off-street
parking
can
have
an
outsized
impact
on
the
form
and
function
of
our
communities.
B
We
have
been
in
downtowns
that
are
built
more
for
cars
than
people.
Less
visual
are
the
added
hidden
costs.
Many
times
parking
requirements
for
housing
increases
land
needed
for
development.
If,
as
any
many
areas,
land
is
at
a
premiums,
so
structured
parking
is
used,
this
can
add
considerable
cost
to
any
project.
That's
going
on
and
we've
had
that
in
the
city
I
think
down
at
bronies
was
particularly
expensive.
B
B
B
Also,
the
community
impacts
of
not
the
right
size
requirements
also
need
to
be
addressed:
loss
of
walkability
in
our
neighborhoods
increased
air
and
water
pollution
and
loss
of
moderate
and
affordable
housing.
We
see
all
these
impacts
right
now
in
athens,
parking
requirements
and
enforcement
is
one
of
the
few
carrots
that
we
have
in
the
city.
We
don't
have
density
numbers
that
we
can
bonus.
We
don't
have
some
of
the
other
tools
that
other
communities
use.
B
B
Given
current
land
values
and
development
costs,
the
result
of
our
wrong
size,
parking
restrictions
and
regulations
restricts
land
development
toward
the
single
family
house
on
a
large
lot
model.
It
is
even
harder
to
do
any
sort
of
infilling
duplex
intelligence,
cottage
development,
mixed
use.
These
outcomes
is
on
the
face.
Exclusionary
many
communities
have
moved
to
the
point
that
they
are
going
towards
removing
our
ones
and
having
mixed
use,
zone
and
housing
zones,
because
it
is
an
exclusionary
process
of
having
strictly
r1.
B
We
see
that
in
what
goes
on
every
day
and
the
discussion
we
had
about
the
tiff
and
all
those.
So
you
know
it's
here
and
it's
real
in
some
areas
say:
court
street.
The
requirement
for
parking
increases
the
cost
of
development,
but
also
causes
an
overbalance
of
certain
parts.
Parking
types
think
empty
parking,
lots
at
night.
B
There
is
no
real
reason,
apart
from
our
regulations,
that
an
uptown
one
bedroom
apartment
has
to
have
parking.
This
is
inefficient
in
both
capital
and
land
use
for
dub
for
developers.
It
is
ultimately
cheaper
to
build
more
bedrooms
or
ask
for
a
variance
the
needed
one
and
two
bedroom
apartments.
Don't
get
developed.
B
B
I'd
also
like
to
donkey
is
a
really
good
example.
Right
now
they
have
to
find
places
to
rent
at
quite
a
considerable
cost.
Most
of
the
people
in
their
apartments
don't
have
a
car,
they
have
like
13
spaces
and
they
may
rent
to
the
people
three
spaces,
so
they
spend
time
trying
to
get
other
parking
for
them
and
that's
quite
that's
quite
a
burden
on
one
of
our
loan.
You
know
local
businesses
so
there's
three
basic
approaches
to
right
sizing
or
parking
change.
The
number
of
parking
spaces
required
per
unit.
B
B
I
think
that
when
bedrooms
facing
things
on
bedrooms
may
become
harder
in
the
future,
because
there's
some
court
cases
about
them.
Okay,
the
second
part
is
change.
The
total
number
of
spaces
allowed
per
unit.
Now
this
is
a
different
mindset.
It's
allowed
per
unit.
It's
a
maximum,
the
other
one
is
a
minimum.
B
A
lot
of
communities
are
going,
no
minimums
and
all
maximums
and
let
the
market
take
care
of
it
and
what
they
find
is
that
housing
prices
tend
to
go
down
because
it's
decoupled
with
the
parking
price
just
like
at
donkey,
they've
decoupled
it
because
they're,
good
landlords-
but
you
know,
people
who
are
living
in
places
that
have
parking
that
don't
have
cars
are
subsidizing.
B
B
B
Our
carrot
is,
is
a
teeny
tiny
little
carrot,
but
it
can
grow.
You
know.
So
what?
Basically,
this
makes
a
bigger
carrot
is
allows
for
flexibility
right
now.
It's
this
or
you
have
to
go
through
the
board
of
zoning,
appeals,
yeah
busy
and
that's
not
necessarily
a
very
good
planning
approach
and
a
city
administration
approach,
because
they're
not
planners,
they
are
appeal
and
if
so
many
of
the
cases
are
going
almost
directly
there,
that
could
be
a
problem,
so
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
flexible
enough
regulations
that
that
doesn't
happen.
B
You
know
this
can
work
together
with
all
our
other
parking
stuff
that
we've
been
doing
and
the
the
drds
and
the
tiffs
the
innovation
zones.
This
is
perfect
for
those
sort
of
areas
and
and
types
of
development
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while
from
the
comprehensive
plan.
Zoning
changes
are
needed
to
help
shift
development
focus
from
cars
to
people.
B
This
can
be
accomplished
by
converting
parking
minimums
to
maximums,
while
reducing
the
maximum
allowed
per
space
within
neighborhoods,
develop
b1
type,
zoning
that
helps
to
keep
businesses
in
the
neighborhood,
so
they're
walkable.
You
know
this
plan
recommends
parking
changes
that
could
be
implemented
as
a
part
of
a
broad
set
of
changes.
We've
been
working
all
the
parking.
B
I
think
that
the
general
theme
of
sustainability
that
goes
through
all
of
our
comprehensive
plan
and
all
the
other
plans
that
support
it.
This
is
the
right
thing
to
do
with
sustainability,
because
it
reduces
the
amount
of
impervious
soil
impervious
services.
It
makes
the
neighborhoods
more
walk
friendly,
is
better
all
around.
It
uses
our
built-up
land
a
lot
more
efficiently.
B
B
B
So
I
just
want
to
talk
a
couple
minutes
about
some
of
the
changes
some
of
the
ones
were.
The
change
in
the
size
of
the
parking
spot
itself
is
now
at
a
maximum
of
880
square
feet,
which
is
more
than
a
bedroom.
B
So
I
think
the
two
major
areas
that
help
to
right-size
the
parking
regulations
and
even
out
the
mismatched
uses
is
the
shared
facility
section
that
that
has
now
been
turned
into
a
shared
facility
parking
where
there's
a
different
in
timing
or
something
where
you
do
not
have
to
have
right
now
in
our
regulations.
If
you
use
shared
like
that,
like
a
shared
parking
lot,
you
have
to
have
enough
spaces
for
each
use.
B
So
half
the
spaces
are
probably
not
being
used
for
half
the
time.
The
churches
have
a
write
up.
That's
been
the
regulations
for
the
church.
Parking
lots
is
a
good
example
because
they're
using
parking,
that's
not
being
used
on
sunday,
so
that
expands
the
model.
This
is
a
perfect
example
of
of
like
salam.
B
They
have
parking,
they
have
a
hard
time
finding
parking.
There
are
people
who
work
during
the
day
that
leave
and
don't
use
those
parkings,
but
salaam
can't
share
with
them,
because
it's
not
the
total
for
both
uses.
So
this
would
be
a
change
and
allow
for
those
sort
of
interactions
and
legal
contracts
between
landowners,
and
this
will
help
to
keep
things
like
the
empty
park,
car
parks
at
night
syndrome.
So
the
other
thing
is
we're.
B
B
Then
you
can
work
with
that
flexibility
to
get
your
parking
down
to
zero,
you
know,
and
so
that
allows
for
certain
things
like
fallets.
B
It's
probably
not
how
you
say
it,
but
where
this
it
allows
the
city
to
have
a
lot
more
flexibility.
B
B
Would
be
special
developments,
so
you
might
be
able
to
qualify
for
75
off
of
the
parking
that
we
have
in
b.
There
are
certain
ways
to
be
able
to
get
those
exceptions,
low
income,
housing,
tax
credit
project,
substituting
vehicle
parking
for
bicycle
parking.
B
Rental
conversion
must
have
had
a
valid
rental
permit
for
three
of
the
past
five
years.
This
is
how
to
identify
areas
as
as
came
up
in
the
election
that
outer
ring
of
of
rentals.
That
may
people
may
really
want
to
change,
because
maybe
they
want
to
move
back
into
into
town,
so
planned
unit
developments,
b2t
uptown
business
zone
with
one
and
two
bedroom
apartments,
residential
tax,
increment
financing
development
with
at
least
50
universal
units
and
housing
with
net
zero
or
lead
certifications.
C
So,
chris
I
wanted
to
ask
with
regard
you.
You
talked
about
the
public
transit
piece
and
and
in
the
legislation
there's
you
know
a
discussion
about
being
within
1500
feet
or
less
of
the
transit
service.
C
And
I
haven't
looked
at
anything,
but
would
there
be
any
area
in
the
city
that
wouldn't
be
within
1500
feet
of
the
transit
line,
the
that's
a
quarter
of
a
mile
on
either
side
of
wherever
the
bus
runs
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
that
would
include
the
on-demand
taxi
services
and
things,
but
is
there
does
that?
Does
that?
Is
that
really
something
that
needs
to
be
included
or
is?
Is
it
pretty
comprehensive?
B
Well,
I
paul
lowe
mapped
it
out,
you
know,
and
there
are
areas
where
I
think
what
this
really
looks
at
is
the
in
filling,
and
this
allows
for
flexibility
in
because
we
don't
really
have
a
huge
amount
of
just
bare
space,
so
there
may
be
infilling
pro
projects
that
can
go
on
like
east
state
street
and
those
sort
of
things
of
like
development
for
aging
in
place,
seniors
and
those
sort
of
things.
So
that
gives
that
flexibility
for
for
that
distance.
D
E
Just
a
question
of
clarification:
if
I
could,
the
public
transit
service
would
be
a
stop,
not
necessarily
the
line
itself
or
the
route,
but
an
actual
stop.
B
B
So
what
that
is,
is
it's.
It's
prioritizing
people
movement
as
opposed
to
just
car
movement
in
those
situations,
so.
F
F
And
probably,
to
some
extent,
maybe
john's
you
have
we,
we
don't
have
a
place
if
somebody
throws
a
party,
it's
nobody
throws
a
party
anymore,
but
they
used
to
I'm
cons
a
little
bit
concerned
about
that
and
also
aorta
used
to
come
up
there,
and
it
was
very
nice
and.
D
B
What
the
transit
oriented
district
really
represents
is
is
pushing
how
we
want
to
develop.
You
know
much
more
dense
denser
where
all
our
facilities
and
all
our
infrastructure
is,
and
that's
really
the
only
place,
and
so
this
is
the
most
sustainable
by
looking
at
the
fact
that
not
every
one
or
two
bedroom
house,
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
is
going
to
have
two
cars
or
even
one
car.
You
know
we
teach
our
freshmen
and
sophomores
to
live
on
campus
without
cars
and
then
they
get
into
apartments
uptown
and
they're.
B
F
Virtuous,
but
I
think
that
in
the
real
world
there
is
a
problem
with
the
students
bringing
cars
and
it's
not
easily
solved
I've,
I
would
say
the
k.
The
fairgrounds
is
an
ideal
option,
but
it
takes
maybe
75
or
more
in
tickets
before
they
figure
out
that
maybe
they
ought
to
try
it
and
I've
said
that
to
students
when
I
had
contact
with
them-
and
I
don't
think
it's
disappearing
now.
F
The
other
thing
is
when
I
go
down
to
the
pantry,
I
always
see
a
bunch
of
students
in
a
car
and
they
have
their
own
transit
system
too
yeah,
and
I
don't,
I
don't
think
that's
recognized
well
at
all.
The
other
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
was
spaces
and
using
gravel,
I
think,
is
a
bad
idea
that
that
was
the.
B
It's
written
it's
much
more
up
to
code
director
of.
F
F
B
I
think
that
if
you
sat
down
in
some
places
to
catch
speeders,
you
would
probably
well.
F
I
would
start
with
speeders
because
I'm
afraid
about
the
school
bus
and
go
don't
get
me
started
on
that.
We
I'm
not
sure,
also
about,
and
I
think
we
ought
to
ask
alan
mcmillan
how
it
worked
because
he's
one
of
the
last
ones
we
had
a
case
on
didn't:
wasn't
he
redoing
the
gte
building
and
he
rented
spaces,
and
I
wondered
how
that
worked,
because
if
the
students
have
their
cars
parked
uptown
and
they're,
the
obvious
rental
users?
F
C
D
B
Is
this
is
something
to
get
when
we're
going
forward
and,
looking
at
this,
I
think
that
the
trends
are
showing
that
people
are
having
less
cars
and
people
are
sharing
cars
more
and
you
know
athena
is
quite
frankly
late
to
the
ball
game
here
and
what
we're
trying
to
also
do
is,
you
know,
I
think,
emphasizing
the
ability
to
have
better
development
occur,
that
is
more
inclusive
and
more,
you
know
economically,
just
is
really
important.
Coming
out
of
private.
F
B
Up
there
you
know,
and
if,
if
skeptical
the
the
requirement
for
fullest
is
40
spaces,
they're
never
going
to
be
able
to
put
that
on
there.
You
know.
F
For
what
the
40
spaces
bullets.
F
B
Most
people,
I
talked
to
says
yes,
this
is
obvious
and
we
should
do
it
because
athens
is
lee,
and
this
is
the
thing
to
do
when
it
comes
to
sustainability.
Yes,
what
did
you
say?
We're.
B
But
I
think
now,
and
especially
coming
out
of
covid
and
changes
in
how
people
work
and
stuff
we
have
this.
You
know
remote
worker
prospect
going
forward
in
council
with
what
you're
doing
with
the
money
that
we
voted
on
last
time.
So
the
remote.
D
F
Well,
I
guess
one
of
the
final.
The
final
thing
I
will
say
I
promise
I
bet
you
wish
you
were
at
home
and
you
could
just
mute
me.
The
other
question
is
the
has
to
do
with
the
giving
the
code
office,
the
code
inspector,
a
lot
of
power,
and
I
had
30
years
of
experience
almost
in
on
council
and
I
saw
people
come
and
go.
I
mean
this.
F
One
is
okay,
but
what's
me
he's
only
60
years
old
he's
gonna
quit
in
five
years
and
then
what
will
be
hired
and
who
will
know?
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
crap
shoot.
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
of
a
of
a
standard
and
as
opposed
to
letting
the
code
director
do
it
puts
him.
Behind
the
you
mean
the
decision,
I've
recorded
yeah,
and
I
guess
I'm
not
going
to
close
with
just
this
one
thing.
When
I
first
came
here,
there
was
nothing
going
on
in
the
upper
stories
and
there
were.
F
It
was
a
totally
different
place
in
1971.
god.
I
hate
to
even
admit
it,
but
the
upper
stories
were
vacant.
They
may
have
had
some
stuff
there.
Now,
there's
unlimited
student
renters
up
there
and
they
love
it.
I
don't
know
you're
fighting
a
losing
battle.
Almost
I
wonder
I
mean
other
than
the
few
people
that
are,
I
mean
there
are
spaces.
D
B
One
of
the
problems
that
we
have
when
looking
at
like
from
the
economic
development
people,
is
that
we
need
professional
level
apartments.
We
don't
we
four
and
five
bedroom
apartment
complex.
The
demand
is
there,
though
well,
maybe
not.
Maybe
because
yeah
numbers
at
school
are
changing,
even
students
are
changing
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
one
and
two
bedroom
units
there,
because
that's
where
we
are
lacking
making
it
so
that
the
parking
and
the
rent
is
decoupled
makes
the
rent
go
down.
E
E
C
A
That
the
five
and
six
bedroom
units
they're
not
renting,
because
students
don't
want
to
live
in
a
congregate,
setting
like
that
anymore,
that
they
would
prefer
a
two-bedroom
or
a
one-bedroom
unit.
The
one
thing
in
here
that
I
also
want
to
kind
of
highlight
is
with
the
1500
feet
or
less
from
public
transit
service.
A
A
D
C
I
think
that
what
is
being
proposed
for
the
building
at
union
and
and
court
street
is
probably
the
best
use
for
that
project
property.
You
know,
and
I
would
hate
to
see
that
building
stay
empty
because
they
can't
comply
with
the
parking
regulations.
C
I
and
you
know-
and
I
I
guess
I'd
like
to
make
you
know
I
I
you
know,
and
but
more
important
too,
is
I
I
don't
just
want
apartments
on
top
of
the
building.
I
want
viable
business
space
below
that
to.
D
C
C
I
think
you
know
there's.
C
You
know
one
of
the,
so
I
have
two
I'm
a
part
owner
and
two
two
two
bedroom
apartments
and
the
fact
that
we
have
on-site
parking
makes
those
real
attractive.
Now,
when
there
is
seems
to
be
more
of
a
housing,
more
housing
available
than
than
people
want
to
buy.
So
that's
you
know,
that's
real
attractive
right
now,
and
so
you
know
and-
and
I
I
think
that's
allowed
us
to
keep
tenants
in
the
building
right.
B
You
know
well
and
this
this
particular
you
would
still
be
able
to
do
that
within.
C
B
Regulations
because
it's
not
your
you're,
not
being
forced
to
do
things
yeah,
but,
and
also
one
of
the
things,
because
our
our
site
and
our
requirements
are
so
large
that
it
it
discourages
and
prohibits
people
who
may
be
in
a
house
that's
a
little
bit
too
big
for
them
like
making
it
into
a
duplex,
which
would
also
help
them
be
able
to
stay
an
age
in
place
and
those
sort
of
things
over
in
the
near
east.
B
A
Okay,
this
will
come
forward
again
as
a
case,
so
this
was
again
the
communication
it'll
come
up
as
a
case
this.
The
planning
commission
does
have
the
opportunity
to
open
up
a
public
hearing.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilmember
fall,
mr
delack,
do
you
you
raised
your
hand
and
swore?
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
add.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you.
I
completely
jumped
over
number
two
on
our
agenda,
so
I
apologize
to
the
planning
commission
for
that,
and
that
is
disposition
of
the
april
15
2021
meeting
minutes,
which
is
in
your
package.
D
A
Opposed
same
sign,
the
minutes
are
adopted
now
we're
back
on
track.
We
don't
have
the
city
planner
with
us
today,
but
we
do
have
director
riggs
from
development
and
code
enforcement.
G
A
That's
great
thank
you
opportunity
for
citizens
to
speak
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
Mr
delac,
no!
Okay,
since
you
are
the
only
member
of
the
public.
That's
here
with
us
today,
announcements
in
other
business.
I
do
want
to
remind
people
because
I
heard
a
lot
of
concerned
citizens.
We
did
have
a
flash
flood
last
night
yesterday
evening,
around
5
30
to
6
30
ish
7
o'clock
significant.
A
A
Our
next
meeting
will
be
july,
15th
again
pending
a
quorum.
If
we
have.