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Athens Planning Commission - September 2, 2021
A
To
the
planning
commission's
special
session,
which
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
off
street
parking
code,
which
is
under
title
23
zoning
code
as
we
get
going
tonight,
if
there's
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
planning
commission,
please
raise
your
right
hand
and
just
say
I
do
after
I'm
finished
right
here
you
know:
do
you
only
swear
that
what
you're
going
to
say
tonight
before
this
body
is
honest
and
truthful.
A
Thank
you
so
there's
a
public
hearing
that
was
based
upon
case
number,
21-03
city
city,
council
resolution,
r,
dash
10-21
request
to
consider
amending
athens
city
code,
title
23,
zoning
code
off
street
parking
and
table
b,
comma
off
street
parking
requirements.
A
A
I
also
want
to
remind
everyone
that
we
are
broadcast
live
and
it
will
also
be
archived
to
where
people
can
look
at
that
in
the
future
if
they
so
choose
to
and
that
can
be
assessed
or
observed
on
the
city's
website.
A
A
Unfortunately,
city
council,
representative,
chris
fall,
who
was
the
author
of
this
amendment,
is
not
able
to
be
with
us
tonight,
and
the
city
planner
paul
logue
will
be
here
at
some
point
in
time
tonight,
but
he
had
a
an
appointment
up
in
columbus.
That
could
not
be
avoided,
but
hopefully
he
will
be
here
tonight.
If
anybody
wants
to
communicate
with
councilmember
chris
fall
about
this
legislation,
they
can
certainly
do
so
by
reaching
out
to
her
at
c
fall.
It's
f
a
h,
l
at
ci,
dot,
athens,
dot,
o
h,
dot.
A
A
A
So
the
first
one
that
I
will
read
aloud
is
dear
planning,
commission,
as
I
will
most
likely
have
been
able
to
attend
the
hearing
this
evening
about
the
parking
ordinance
amendment.
I
am
sending
us
a
letter
of
support.
The
reduction
of
parking
minimums
is
a
fantastic
idea.
Parking
requirements
hurt
every
single
person
in
athens.
A
A
A
Athens
is
full
of
cars,
athens
is
bursting
with
cars
and
it
goes
on
and
I
will
again
have
this
entered
into
record.
A
The
second
letter
that
I'm
gonna
raid-
dear
commission
members-
I
am
writing
as
a
long-term
resident
of
north
hill,
neighborhood
retired
zoning
board,
member
and
retired
city
council
member.
A
The
parking
regulations
as
they
currently
stand
for
r1
neighborhoods
are
a
core
are
a
core
functional
code
that
has
stabilized
our
neighborhood
and
others
for
the
past
20
years.
I
note
that
citizens
review
process
that
include
those
that
have
historical
perspective.
Knowledge
would
be
an
effective
avenue
to
pull
the
community
together
to
such
a
significant
issue.
A
This
is
just
one
issue
that
concerns
myself
and
my
neighbors
as
a
founding
member
of
the
affordable
housing
commission.
The
proposed
parking
changes
strikes
me
as
a
change
that
would
have
far-reaching
effects
on
limiting
the
availability
of
quality
housing
stock
in
the
city
limits.
I
urge
the
commission
to
vote
down
this
measure
as
currently
proposed.
A
A
This
resolution,
in
light
of
our
ability
to
have
a
public
hearing
such
as
that
held
here
tonight
so
and
that
passed
three
to
zero
with
the
county
or
the
planning
commission
members
who
were
in
attendance,
would
director
of
code
enforcement
like
to
make
any
opening
remarks
in
regards
to
this
piece
of
legislation.
B
Yeah
the
staff
has
looked
at
the
this
proposed
change
in
regulations
and
did
a
little
bit
of
review.
We
did
have
some
comments
and
concerns,
but
would
like
to
hear
from
the
from
the
residents
to
see
if
there's
any
additional
concerns
pending
coming
up.
C
C
There
isn't
any
logic
to
me
and
you're
allowed
to
have
stacked
parking
in
an
r1
or
an
r2
versus
you're,
not
in
an
r3,
and
I
can
go
through
town
and
show
you
driveway
after
driveway
after
drive
for
you
properties
that
we
either
own
or
manage
that
has
four
or
five
cars
in
them.
It
counts
as
one
parking
spot.
Okay.
C
So,
in
order
to
comply
with
parking,
we
had
to
create
parking,
whether
it
be
taking
yards
and
turn
them
into
parking
lots,
or
you
know
well
one
one
house
on
high
street
burnt
down
which
I
didn't
own,
but
we
had.
We
bought
it
and
built
a
parking
lot
just
to
come
in
compliance
with
other
properties
that
doesn't
make
any
sense.
C
Cars
today
are
smaller
than
they
used
to
be
so.
The
square
footage
requirement
that
you're
discussing
of
reducing
it
absolutely
180
square
feet
is
not
necessary.
Cars
are
smaller,
I
would
say
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
hundred
square
feet
would
be
adequate.
You
should
require
some
parking
on
site.
Okay,
I
know
there's
things
being
discussed
about
some
of
the
uptown
buildings
that
potentially
would
be
converted
into
apartments.
C
It's
foolish
to
think
that
students
today
do
not
bring
cars
to
this
city,
and
anybody
that
says
otherwise
is
just
sticking
their
head
in
the
sand.
Having
been
a
landlord
for
41
years,
there
are
more
students
with
cars
today
than
there
ever
has
been
as
a
percentage
of
our
residents.
Okay,
you
do
need
to
have
some
on-site
parking,
okay
and
it's
it's
always
been
able
to
be
accomplished.
I
follow
what
happens
at
ohio
state
very
closely.
Any
development
that
happens
up
there.
C
There
is
on-site
parking
if
they're
going
to
go
to
the
grocery
store
at
six
o'clock
and
come
back
at
seven
and
unload
their
groceries
and
they're
parking
on
the
street.
They
say
I'll
get
up
in
the
morning
and
move
my
car
morning
might
be
one
o'clock
and
having
been
the
president
of
the
uptown
business
owners
association
for
10
years,
all
I
heard
was
parking
parking
parking.
This
is
you
need
some
on-site
parking
and
it's
it's
very
easy.
Well,
it
can
be
done
on
any
building.
C
Do
not
do
not
allow
leased
parking
to
comply.
Okay,
even
when
the
code
office
is
adequately
staffed,
they
can't
follow
leases.
I
know
as
firsthand
they
can't
follow
leases.
I've
got
property,
I
own
on
mill
street.
Lease
parking
was
required
to
get
the
permit.
They
haven't
checked
on
in
15
years.
Okay,
because
once
it
happens,
they
move
on.
Okay.
Police
parking
is
a
joke.
Oh
geez.
I
I
had
a
couple
other
good
points,
but
I
guess
I
won't
give
them.
C
D
Got
it
john
kernansky
56
mount
street
athens,
ohio,
I'm
actually
representing
myself.
First
I'd
like
to
thank
the
board
for
holding
this
public
hearing.
A
lot
of
people
have
contacted
me
were
not
aware
of
this.
I
sent
them
all
the
information
I
had.
Some
people
couldn't
make
it
because
of
various
reasons.
So,
but
I'm
here
and
I'd
like
to
address
two
specific
items
brought
forward
because
the
attention
given
to
these
proposed
code
changes.
D
D
D
What
concerns
me
is
that
by
clarifying
these
parking
and
joint
use,
changes
as
as
presented
in
this
proposal,
which
gives
final
approval
to
the
code,
administrator
or
code
officer,
thereby
eliminating
a
public
forum
where
public
notification
and
proposed
appeals
can
be
addressed
by
interested
parties,
and
if
I
have
time
to
come
back,
I
have
my
second
issue
and
if
not,
then
I
will
send
in
an
email.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
karnatsky.
E
Hi,
I
am
michelle
wilson,
I'm
a
small
business
owner
in
town.
I
own
athens
impact
socially
responsible
investments
and
I
just
bought
a
a
home
with
a
storefront
business
right
next
to
village
bakery.
I
also
manage
a
few
properties
and
I
have
helped
help
the
landlord
look
for
properties
in
the
area.
So
I've
looked
into
rentals
quite
a
bit
in
zoning
law.
E
E
I
almost
didn't
have
my
business
there
for
that
reason,
so
the
the
things
I
really
like
about
this
first
of
all,
the
400
square
feet
of
a
business
require
a
parking
spot
spot
rather
than
300,
and
the
fact
that
I
can
have
a
parking
spot,
a
thousand
feet
from
my
business
rather
than
250
right
now,
I
rent
three
parking
spots,
and
this
is
with
a
variant
that
I
do
not
need
and
I
don't
use
they
sit
there
empty.
E
I
pay
1800
a
year
for
no
reason,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
shared
parking
would
apply
to
me,
but
that
would
be
great
because
I
could
rent
the
spots
and
somebody
else
could
rent
them
too,
because
I
don't
use
them
so
this
at
least
loosens
it.
The
one
person
that
I
rent
from
knows
that
they're,
the
only
person
I
can
rent
from
because
they're
the
only
place
within
250
feet.
E
If
my
business
outgrows
this
house,
which
I
expect
it
to
one
day,
it
has
a
boarding
home,
it
can
be
a
boarding
home.
It
was
in
the
past,
and
so
I
may
have
tenants
that
don't
have
cars,
because
it's
right
by
a
bus
stop,
and
I
like
the
fact
that
there's
a
space
for
that,
because
I
mean
that
would
be
why
somebody
might
choose
to
rent
that
home.
F
F
If
we
did
not
enforce
24-hour
parking,
it
would
be
possible
for
someone
to
park
their
car
in
front
of
someone
else's
house
and
to
leave
it
for
months.
At
a
time
before
the
ordinance
was
enacted
and
enforced,
we
would
receive
numerous
complaints
that
residents
couldn't
park
anywhere
near
their
homes
that
they
had
no
place
for
visitors
to
park
and
other
similar
complaints.
F
Since
enforcement
of
the
24-hour
ordinance
began,
these
complaints
have
subsided
even
though
you
can't
park
in
the
same
place
for
more
than
24
hours.
You
should
remember
that
no
one
else
can
either
and
the
chances
of
your
finding
a
parking
space
near
your
residence
is
greatly
increased
by
our
enforcement
of
the
ordinance.
F
G
First
and
most
importantly,
humanity
is
facing
a
climate
crisis
and
we
must
dramatically
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
order
to
avoid
the
worst
impacts
of
climate
change.
The
city
in
2020
passed
a
climate
emergency
resolution
committing
to
end
city-wide
gap
quote
end
city-wide
greenhouse
gas
emissions
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
no
later
than
thirty.
G
G
Unquote,
the
parking
minimums
as
currently
designated
in
the
zoning
code
contain
an
implicit
assumption
that
every
resident
will
own
at
least
one
car,
and
that
every
trip
will
be
by
car,
which
is
fundamentally
incompatible
with
the
city,
achieving
a
meaningful
reduction
in
transportation
related
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
The
changes
before
the
planning
commission
tonight
represent
a
step
towards
shifting
our
transportation
and
economic
systems
to
a
more
sustainable
footing.
G
Furthermore,
the
plan's
housing
and
development
section
notes
that
a
community
priority
identified
in
scoping
is
to
quote
develop,
building
and
zoning
standards
that
focus
on
bicycle
and
pedestrian
orientation
rather
than
orientation.
That's
what
the
community
said.
The
proposed
zoning
change
does
exactly
this
by
encouraging
more
bicycle
parking
and
transit-oriented
development.
G
The
economy,
section's
definition
of
a
sustainable
economy
includes
the
following
externalities
are
appropriately
included
in
pricing.
Unquote,
current
zoning
requires
the
provision
of
more
space
for
parking
360
square
feet
at
a
minimum
than
it
requires
for
dwelling
space
140
square
feet
at
a
minimum.
The
cost
of
which
is
born
even
by
those
residents
who
do
not
have
a
car.
G
Similarly,
businesses
must
incur
the
cost
to
provide
parking
for
some
nearly
equal
to
the
floor
area
of
their
businesses,
whether
or
not
it
is
used.
This
change
corrects
that
inappropriate
pricing
burden,
potentially
reducing
the
cost
of
housing
for
residents
who
choose
not
to
own
a
car
and
the
cost
burden
of
businesses
that
are
accessible
by
transit,
walking
or
biking
contributing
to
a
more
successful
and
vibrant
business
districts.
G
H
H
Secondly,
by
maintaining
the
urban
fabric
of
our
uptown,
which
is
one
of
our
our
greatest
treasures
and
third
by
moderating
the
environmental
impact
of
impervious
surfaces
and
heat
absorbing
surfaces,
and
this
conclusion
is
based
on
my
own
research
on
parking
behavior.
This
afternoon
I
went
into
google
earth.
I
called
up
images
from
october
2015
and
march
2020,
and
I
counted
cars
in
residential
districts
dominated
by
by
rentals
occupancy
of
parking
spaces
is
somewhere
between
40
and
80
percent.
H
I
My
name
is
alan
swank.
I
live
at
40
towns
in
place
here
in
athens
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
did
not
know.
We'd
be
limited
three
minutes
tonight,
because
on
july
15th
we
had
a
very
nice
conversation
and
dialogue,
and
questions
were
asked.
My
intent
this
evening
was
not
to
make
a
statement,
but
simply
to
ask
some
further
questions.
I
Unfortunately,
those
best
prepared
to
ask
those
questions
are
not
here
tonight
and
that's
sad
when
I
ran
for
city
council
back
in
the
spring.
In
the
primary
I
talked
to
over
600
households
and
several
themes
became
very,
very
clear,
one
of
which
is
that
people
wanted
to
be
engaged
early
in
the
process,
not
when
the
train
had
already
left
the
station
so
on
july
15th.
I
was
very
very
pleased
when
the
members
of
this
planning
commission
voted
to
hold
this
hearing
at
that
point
in
time.
This
thing
was
down
already
down
the
tracks.
I
It
was
already
down
the
tracks,
in
fact
at
least
two
of
the
four
members
of
city
council
planning
committee
were
not
even
aware
of
this,
and
I
quote
how
much
question
was
how
much
input
did
you
have
into
this,
and
I
quote
none.
I
read
it
for
the
first
time
when
it
was
introduced
in
committee
unquote
and
a
second
member
of
that
council
committee
quote,
I
had
no
input
in
the
drafting
of
what
was
initially
presented.
I
I
Fallouts,
there's
no
reason
that
we
need
one
parking
spot
for
every
proposed
bed
in
that
place.
But
what
is
that
number
and
talking
to
the
largest
land
owners
and
property
management
people
here
in
town,
including
mr
wharton,
who
was
here
early
we've,
never
had
more
students
in
cars
than
we
have
today,
but
it
varies.
Some
people
have
properties
that
only
have
30
percent
some
have
75.
I
What
is
the
magic
number,
perhaps
that
study
committee
that
the
former
council
person
mentioned
might
address
that
1500
feet
within
in
in
walking
distance
of
a
bus
line?
What
is
that
going
to
do
for
the
near
east
side
today
was
thursday.
Today
was
trash
pickup
day
there
are
so
many
cars
on
elmwood,
maplewood
and
sunnyside
that
you
can't
get
up
that
street
when
trash
is
being
picked
up.
It's
a
dangerous
situation,
but
let's
move
ahead
to
january
when
it's
time
to
plow
those
streaks.
I
Yes,
we
have
parking
issues
in
this
town,
but
I
would
respectfully
request
this
committee
to
send
this
back
to
council
and
possibly
convene
a
committee
of
citizens
to
take
a
comprehensive
look
at
parking
and,
oh
by
the
way
I've
got.
My
older
parking
pass
to
ride
the
bus
and
it's
a
good
thing,
but
it
shuts
down
at
nine
o'clock
at
night.
Thank
you.
I
J
J
In
addition,
to
being
you
know,
university
graduates,
I'm
here
to
speak
strongly
in
favor
of
the
zoning
code,
amendments
as
proposed
to
the
planning
commission
in
the
interest
of
time
and
recognizing
the
three-minute
time
restriction
I'll
state
that
I
believe
that
this
legislation
will
have
net
positives
for
outcomes,
our
net
positive
outcomes
for
athens,
many
of
which
you've
heard
today
the
one
that
I
would
like
to
speak
to
I'd
like
to
speak
to.
J
I
believe
the
number
is
about
17
percent
give
or
take
reducing
parking
requirements
for
new
development
will
allow
for
developments
in
locations
that
are
currently
restricted
from
development
housing
development
in
uptown,
athens,
I'm
thinking
of
in
particular,
where
students
tend
to
congregate
and
want
to
congregate,
will
allow
for
greater
density
that
you
know,
hopefully,
will
actually
reduce
the
pressure
on
outlying
neighborhoods
and,
of
course,
as
a
student,
I
can
speak
to
the
fact
that
when
I
did
eventually
bring
a
car
to
athens,
I
did
rent
a
spot
on
a
university
lot.
J
I
adjusted
to
that
walk.
I
believe
that
my
peers
will
do
the
same
if
pressured
to
do
so.
In
conclusion,
I
believe
that
reducing
these
parking
requirements
is
a
very
smart
move
for
the
city.
It
keeps
us
in
line
with
what
many
other
small
towns
who
are
looking
to
redevelop
their
downtowns
are
doing
nationwide.
J
I've
seen
this
trend
in
my
own
work,
and
certainly
I
think
these
changes
to
the
national
transportation
landscape,
smaller
cars,
different
forms
of
transportation,
from
bikes
to
buses
all
make
a
reduction
in
parking
parking
requirements,
both
necessary
and
positive
for
the
city
of
athens.
Thank
you.
D
I'd
like
to
talk
about
how
contentious
changes
in
the
city
of
athens
are
approached
previously
when
contentious
changes,
and
I
believe
parking
is
truly
a
contentious
change.
You've
got
them
on
both
sides.
You've
got
them
three
quarters.
The
way
in
you've
got
some
in
the
middle.
You've
got
all
kinds
of
ideas
anyways
previously,
when
contentious
changes
that
affect
the
athens
community
as
a
whole
were
contemplated.
D
A
city
council
committee
was
established
to
include
the
chair
of
whatever
committee.
It
was
a
city
administrator,
private
citizens
and
business
members,
for
example
the
rental
sign
committee,
and
that
was
a
very
contentious
issue.
I
was
not
on
that
committee,
but
I
sat
in
on
some
of
those
several
those
meetings
and
everybody
didn't
get
what
they
wanted,
but
by
time
they
were
done.
They
worked
up
a
plan
and
and
presented
it
back
to
council
and
those
changes
were
approved
and
are
in
effect
today.
D
D
But
we
came
up
with
something
because
we
worked
as
a
group,
and
I
think
that
the
planning
commission
needs
to
return
this
to
city
council,
with
the
no
vote
requesting
that
the
chair
of
the
committee
set
up
an
open
committee
for
citizens
and
members
of
the
community
that
have
an
interest
in
it
and
rather
than
dealing
with
with
something
that's
kind
of
appearing
to
be
a
slam
dunk,
because
I
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
interest
involved
in
this
on
many
sides
of
the
avenue.
D
Number
two,
it
says,
exceptions
for
non-transient
sites,
but
if
you
look
at
2c,
it's
designated
downtown
redevelopment,
districts
etc,
and
if
you
look
at
2f,
it's
b2d
uptown
business
zone
and
one
or
two
bedroom
housing
units
both
of
those
are
on
the
what
would
be
considered
close
to
transit.
So
why
are
they
even
there?
I
didn't
quite
get
that.
D
A
K
K
The
movement
to
reduce
or
eliminate
parking
requirements
is
widespread
in
the
united
states.
It
involves
big
cities,
small
towns,
urban
districts,
suburban
locales,
affordable
housing
and
neighborhoods.
It
is
widely
accepted
in
the
planning,
urban
planning,
community
or
profession
that
reducing
or
even
eliminating
parking
minimums
is
a
good
way
to
better
manage
cities
and
encourage
smart
growth.
K
I
am
fully
in
support
of
city
council's
proposal
to
reduce
on-street
parking
minimums,
because
it
makes
good
sense
and
over
time
will
help
make
our
city
an
even
better
place
to
live.
Why
is
reducing
parking
minimum
such
an
important
issue?
Minimum
parking
requirements
hinder
the
potential
of
athens
by
filling
our
city
with
unproductive,
empty
parking
spaces
that
don't
add
value
to
our
city
or
businesses
and
districts
or
even
neighborhoods.
K
K
K
Parking
requirements
raise
rent
prices
and
inhibit
development
of
affordable
housing.
Tenants
who
don't
even
own
cars
are
often
still
expected
to
pay
to
cover
the
cost
of
parking
and
their
rent,
which
increases
the
cost
of
rent
by
an
average
of
17
percent
for
a
study
that
was
cited
already
by
somebody
else
and
that's
across
the
united
states.
K
Over
10
percent
of
athens
city
households
do
not
own
a
car,
so
we're
forcing
those
residents.
Many
of
them
are
people.
I
know-
and
you
know,
young
professionals,
musicians,
service,
industry,
workers,
elderly
residents,
that
no
longer
can
drive,
and
that's
going
to
happen,
probably
to
all
of
us
eventually
to
to
pay
these
costs.
K
K
The
transportation
sector
provides
the
highest
proportion
of
greenhouse
gases
in
the
u.s,
there's
nothing
more
sustainable
and
climate-friendly
than
walking
biking
and
riding
transit,
which
were
already
viable
options
here
in
athens.
This
proposal
would
help
to
encourage
more
people
in
athens
to
reduce
their
number
of
car
trips
and
effectively
possibly
live
without
a
car,
including
off-campus
students.
K
L
Quite
a
while
ago
it
was
brought
up
about
permanent
residents
having
parking
permanent
parking
spots
on
their
street.
I
live
on
franklin
and
there's
there.
I
park
on
the
street
there's
no
garage,
there's
no
driveway!
Nothing!
Now
that
the
students
are
back,
I've
had
to
park
on
franklin
on
east
state
street
or
one
of
the
ends
of
franklin
avenue
and
we're
wondering
if
that
has
been
dropped
or,
if
that's
still
in
the
planning
and
how
would
it
be
enforced.
L
I
think
there
was
even
a
fee
for
it
where
you
could
park
at
a
certain
spot,
because
once
the
students
are
back,
I'm
a
permanent
resident.
I've
been
there
since
the
82.,
once
the
students
are
back,
sometimes
there's
like
nowhere
to
park
and
we're
wondering
if
anything
has
been
thought
about.
You
know,
since
I
have
we
haven't
heard
about
it
for
a
long
time.
A
So
if
you're,
referring
to
the
72
parking
72
hour
parking
permit,
that
does
absolutely
still
exists.
It
does
exist.
It
does
exist
where
a
resident
can
get
there's
certain
criteria,
but
you
can
get
a
parking
permit
for
your
vehicle
to
where
you
don't
have
to
move
it.
Every
24
hours,
okay-
and
I,
if
I
may
one
of
the
lead
authors
of
that
is-
is
joan
kranansky,
who
brought
that
forward
as
a
concerned
citizen
and
concerned
over
having
to
move
her
car
every
24
hours.
A
I
L
A
Well,
there
isn't
a
program
for
us
actually
designating
a
spot
on
any
of
the
public
streets
for
any
resident
in
the
city
of
athens.
That
does
not
exist,
so
it
it.
It's
just
giving
relief
from
not
having
to
move
your
car
every
24
hours
it.
It
still
becomes
basically
a
hunting
permit.
If
you
do
move
your
car
to
find
a
space
in
which
to
to
return
to
it
doesn't
hold
that
space.
L
Okay,
that's
it
I.
I
wasn't
clear
about
that,
because
yeah
I'm
tired
of
paying
30
tickets.
That's
all
I
had
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
Statement
I
have
no
statement
to
make,
but
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
here
also
have
questions.
Would
it
be
appropriate
not
making
a
statement
but
simply
asking
questions?
I
would
guess
of
mr
riggs
from
the
code
office
to
have
those
answered
which
would
help
inform
the
five
of
you
as
to
things
that
citizens
are
concerned
about
again
without
making
a
statement.
Simply
asking
very
specific
questions.
Would
that
be
appropriate.
A
A
A
real
problem
with
that,
unless
any
other
commissioners
do,
I
will
limit
it
to
two
questions
per
person.
Who
wants
to
ask
them?
There
will
be
a
continued
opportunity
to
engage
with
the
planning
commission.
We
will
have
a
regular
planning
session
meeting.
I
believe
our
meeting
is
going
to
be
september
16th
at
12
o'clock.
That's
a
thursday
as
we
continue
to
discuss
this
particular
case
as
well
as
take
all
the
comments
that
everyone
has
provided
to
us
today.
A
During
that
meeting
any
of
you
it's
an
open
meeting.
You
can
return
and
be
afforded
more
time,
three
minutes
per
person
to
speak
to
the
planning
commission
as
we
continue
to
deliberate.
You
know
this
particular
piece
of
legislation
as
it
moves
forward.
I
might
also
add
that
whatever
the
recommendation
of
this
body
is,
as
as
we
make
a
determination,
there
will
still
be,
because
this
is
we're
talking
about
title
23.
A
Title
23
by
default
will
open
up
a
public
hearing
with
city
council
as
cons.
City
council
continues
to
deliberate
this
piece
of
legislation
so
that
affords
our
citizens
another
opportunity
to
have
their
voices
heard
during
that
public
hearing.
So
there
are
still
several
time
frames
ahead
of
us
as
we
look
down
opportunities
for
people
to
speak
about
this,
but,
yes,
I
will
give
anyone
time
to
ask
up
to
two
questions
of
mr
riggs.
A
I
I
have
two
for
mr
riggs:
if
that's
okay,
that's
fine!
So
is
listening
to
your
comments
there
I
take
it
that
you
don't
anticipate
making
any
taking
any
action
tonight.
Official
action
is
a
board
okay,
mr
riggs.
The
two
questions
are
very
very
simple:
the
first
test
to
do
with
the
feet:
where
did
the
thousand
feet
come
from
in
terms
of
being,
as
was
asked
earlier,
a
thousand
feet
in
the
1500?
Where
did
those
come
from.
B
I
wasn't
privy
to
that
that
a
thousand
feet
is
approximately,
you
know
close
to
a
quarter
of
a
mile,
but
I
don't
really
know
why
that
number
was
chosen
over
any
other.
I
Okay,
right
and
and
the
second
one
has
to
deal
with
administrative
things
when
it
talks
about
joint
use
facilities
under
a
the
names
and
addresses
of
the
uses
and
of
the
owners
or
tenants
that
are
sharing
the
parking.
B
That's
one
of
our
concerns.
We,
mr
wharton,
actually
stated
correctly
it's
difficult
for
us
in
the
code
office
to
to
manage
to
go
back
into
the
deeds
and
documents
and
find
out
where,
where
the
this
parking
is,
this
will
just
make
it
a
little
more
difficult
for
us
to
do.
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Thank.
D
There's
a
question
for
mr
riggs
here:
just
something
that
that
continued
to
confuse
me
in
the
section
under
accept
exemptions,
230807
allowable
uses
of
excess
parking
spaces,
automobile
parking
spaces
that
were
required
by
code
at
the
time
of
construction
may
be
converted
to
other
uses,
provided
that
okay.
So
that's
in
the
proposal
and
they
made
changes
so
there
could
be
okay.
So
those
are
what
ifs
but
yeah.
But
then
it
says
the
property
owner
conducts
a
parking
study
approved
by
the
code
enforcement
office,
demonstrating
that
current
parking
demand
renders
the
spaces
unnecessary.
D
I
guess
my
problem
with
that
is
so
maybe
they
not
may
not
be
necessary
this
year,
but
maybe
it
would
be
necessary
next
year.
Do
you
have
facilities
in
place
which
I'm
thinking
you
don't,
but
I'm
asking
the
question
anyways
to
to
do
a
yearly
assessment
of
a
property
that
has
been
given
this
excess
parking
spaces
exemption.
B
If
we
would
need
to
do
annual
assessments
of
every
one
of
those,
I
think
that
would
be
begin
to
become
burdensome
for
the
department.
That's
that's
something.
We
need
to
look
at.
D
E
E
A
thousand
feet
is
walking
distance
from
an
office
and
the
sorry
and
the
idea
of
like
my
my
business,
I
can
only
see
one
person
at
a
time,
so
if
I
can
only
see
one
person
at
a
time
that
that
would
fall
under
an
exemption
like
that
and
that
wouldn't
change
within
that
space,
I
would
need
to
move
to
a
larger
space.
I
think
the
exemption
makes
sense
for
my
business
just
say
that.
H
H
A
Well,
I
you
know,
I'm
not
going
to
go
down
the
hypothetical
hole,
but
what
I
can
say
is
looking
at
enrollments
being
up
this
year.
You
know,
I
understand
the
decrease
that
you're,
referring
to
so
it's
an
unknown
in
terms
of
what
our
city's
population
looks
like
in
the
near
future
and
again,
no
idea
what
it's
going
to
look
like
in
the
distant
future,
either.
H
A
Again
we
will
be
meeting
thursday
september
16th
at
12
o'clock
here
in
council
chambers,
to
where
we
will
continue
to
discuss
this
particular
case
as
we
move
forward
and
as
I'd
indicated,
that
as
it
moves
on
whatever
the
advisement
is
of
this
body
on
to
city
council,
that
city
council
will
be
taking
it
up
likely
in
some
fashion,
and
there
will
be
another
opportunity
as
there
would
be
with
any
zoning
changes
under
title
23
that
it
automatically
opens
up
a
public
hearing
again
as
we
move
forward.
So
I
thank
all
of
you
again.
A
This
is
all
has
been
live
streaming.
A
It
will
be
archived
under
the
planning
commission
minutes
to
where
you
will
be
able
to
see
those
that
the
video
will
be
archived
as
well
and
hearing
no
other
comments
is
there
anything
from
the
planning
commission,
no
okay,
here,
yeah,
no
and
again
during
a
public
hearing
our
charge
is
to
listen
and
take
in
everything
that
everyone
has
said
before
this
body
today.
So
again,
thank
you.
That
concludes
this
public
hearing,
and
so
we
are
adjourned.