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Athens Planning Commission - January 6, 2022
A
A
A
Would
you
please
raise
your
right
hand?
Do
you
swear
that
you?
You
would
tell
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth
before
the
the
planning
commission.
Today,
okay,
I
gotta,
remember
my
right
hand.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
election
of
the
2022
officers,
as
we
need
to
have
a
nomination
for
the
chair
of
the
planning
commission
as
well
as
the
vice
chair.
B
Will
nominate
you
to
be
chair
for
20
two,
basically
for
twenty
two
right?
Okay
for
twenty.
A
Two,
I
second
that
there's
a
second
any
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign
all
right.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair.
I
would
like
to
nominate
john
katowski
to
serve
as
the
vice
chair
for
the
athens
city
planning,
commission.
A
We
have
a
second
any
communications
or
discussions
hearing.
None
again,
this
would
be
for
2022
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign,
wonderful
disposition
of
the
october
21st
meeting
minutes.
A
A
A
Hearing
nothing
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi.
D
E
A
In
one
abstention,
it
passes
the
disposition
disposition
in
the
midst.
We
have
no
cases
today.
We
do
have
two
communications,
so
the
first
communication
that
we
have
is
the
armitage
roll
armitage
road
solar
field.
A
C
Good
afternoon,
happy
new
year
planning
commission
the
the
project,
the
proposal
that
you've
got
before
you
we've
been
in
communication
with
some
folks
there's
a
purchase
power
purchase
power
agreement.
I
believe
and
they're
here
to
speak
more
in
detail
about
this.
C
Looking
at
the
armitage
road
area
was
initially
proposed
for
a
golf
course
at
the
part
of
the
the
university
estates
project.
The
land
is
zoned
for
open
space,
there's
interest
in
putting
in
a
large
large
scale,
solar
project
there
to
help
offset
the
electricity
or
to
generate
electricity
for
the
ohio
university
campus.
I
believe
it
will
generate
about
25
percent
of
the
university's
electricity
load
at
this
location.
C
They
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
and
they
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
project,
but
also
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
run
into
david
and
I
have
had
a,
I
think
at
least
one
meeting
with
them
face-to-face
and
then
a
few
phone
calls
and
zoom
calls
to
discuss
the
project.
One
of
the
bigger
issues
that
we're
running
into
really
has
is
related
to
the
zoning,
for
the
piece
of
real
estate
is
open
space
and
how
to
allow
for
a
project
like
this.
C
That
has,
in
our
view,
or
at
least
in
my
view,
a
lot
of
benefits
to
the
community
and
to
goals
of
the
city
and
the
university,
while
also
managing
our
land
use
regulation
scheme.
So
I
believe,
there's
some
member
representatives
here
who
would
like
to
speak
in
more
detail
about
that.
F
Good
morning,
gentlemen,
my
name
is
austin
musser,
I'm
an
attorney
with
bricker
and
eckler.
I
am
kind
of
helping
shepherd
these
guys
through
the
zoning
process.
I
do
a
lot
of
zoning
work.
I've
worked
actually
more
often
on
your
side
of
the
table
in
southwest
ohio.
E
G
Good
afternoon
I'm
brent
boyd,
chief
operating
officer
of
solar
power
and
light
we're
based
out
of
the
dayton
ohio
area.
Thank
you
and
it's
an
honor
to
have
us
here
this
afternoon.
I
wanted
to
spend
a
few
minutes
talking
about
the
proposed
project
and
how
it
came
to
be
in
the
sort
of
the
context
of
the
project
we
successfully
were
awarded
a
project
by
ohio
university,
which
resulted
from
a
national
rfp
bid.
G
This
project
also
creates
tax
revenues
for
athens
county,
which
makes
its
way
to
the
local
school
districts
and
fire
and
police
departments.
So
we're
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
invest
in
athens
county.
We
think
athens
county
is
the
birthplace
of
solar
for
ohio,
a
number
of
solar
companies
here,
a
lot
of
advocates
for
solar
in
the
region
as
well,
so
we're
excited.
We
think
the
university
is
excited.
G
Miss
elaine
goetz
is
here
this
afternoon
representing
ohio
university.
She,
I
believe,
is
the
sustainability
director
for
the
university
who
had
up
headed
up
the
vrp
for
that
project.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we're
also
contemplating
with
the
sighting
of
the
solar
at
armitage
road,
given
that
it
is
currently
zoned
open
space,
is
to
add
other
sort
of
community
amenities
and
benefits,
we're
not
quite
sure
what
exactly
that
would
be
we're
working
with
with
the
city
planners
to
navigate
that.
But
some
of
the
thoughts
we
had
for
that
site
is
perhaps
the
addition
of
dog
parks,
education,
walking
trails
for
the
community
to
be
able
to
walk
in
and
amongst
the
solar
to
understand
solar
technology.
G
The
solar
array,
helps
with
vegetation
management
acts
as
a
natural
pollinator
for
bees
and
butterflies,
which
is
good
for
the
environment
as
well,
and
so
we
think
that
the
roughly
80
to
100
acres
of
land
would
be
a
great
sort
of
nature
reserve
to
build,
build
that
and
and
that's
sort
of
state
of
the
art
for
solar
these
days,
building,
pollinator
gardens
and
fields
and
amongst
the
solar
panels.
G
G
Jesus
began
has
written
a
letter
to
us
expressing
his
interest
to
do
research
in
and
among
solar
panels
to
sort
of
talk
about
how
you
can
beneficially
use
solar
panels
for
certain
types
of
agricultural
research,
and
so
not
only
are
we
going
to
be
producing
clean,
green
energy
produced
locally
to
power
the
university.
We
also
see
the
opportunity
for
the
university's
research
staff
to
benefit
from
this
as
well
pursue
state
and
federal
grants.
G
That
would
would
back
this
type
of
research,
and
so
in
essence,
that
that
is
the
project
and
I'm
sorry
greg
acres
is
our
director
of
business
development
he's
also
with
solar
power
and
light,
so
greg
actually
is
born
and
raised
in
this
region.
So
he
has
a
special
interest
and
heart
for
this
project
as
well.
His
family
actually
continues
to
own
farmland
in
the
region.
Although
he
now
resides
in
the
dayton
area
craig.
Would
you
like
to
have
any
further
awards?
Those
were
pretty
good,
I'm
okay
with
it.
G
H
G
A
I'll
I'll
reserve
my
question
for
after
we
hear
from
you.
E
I
have
a
question
actually
the
potential
research
and
such
and
it's
somewhat
of
a
statement.
This
is
the
city's
source,
water
protection
area
and
obviously
a
solar
array
is
a
permissible
use
in
the
source
order,
protection
area.
Regarding
that
particular
aspect
of
the
city's
the
city's
code,
however,
there
is
some
regulation
on
agriculture
in
the
source,
water
protection
area,
particularly,
was
it
related
to
herbicides
and
pesticides?
So
you
know
my
gut
feel
is
what
dr
pecan
is
going
to
pursue
is
not
you
know,
high
use
of
herbicides
and
pesticides.
G
E
Would
and
then
the
other
with
the
switch
to
pollinators.
You
know
my
gut
feel
is
you
know,
there's
probably
quite
a
few
invasive
species
in
that
area
and
being
able
to
switch
to
pollinators,
sometimes
requires
application
herbicides,
and
that's
just
something,
that's
regulated.
So
I
guess
my
my
point
is
because
of
being
the
source
water
protection
area,
that's
something
that
we'll
have
to
take
an.
G
And
I'm
thinking
that
you
know
generally,
when
you
talk
about
doing
things
like
this,
it
has
to
be
approved
by
zoning
as
well.
E
Certainly,
zoning,
but
I
mean
you
know
once
there:
the
zoning
process
has
stopped
okay
and
you
know,
and
it's
operating,
that
the
social
worker-
and
you
know
everyone's
pretty
hyper,
focused
on
that
here
in
the
city.
So
I
don't
think
it
would
pass
unnoticed,
but
that's
just
a
consideration
sure
all
right.
Thank
you.
F
F
So,
as
I
reviewed
your
zoning
code,
I
was
pleasantly
surprised
to
see
that
it
actually
talked
about
solar.
My
experience
in
most
of
ohio
is
that
most
zoning
codes
are
just
completely
silent
on
it
and
you're,
basically
starting
from
square
one,
really
educating
people
on
the
benefits
of
solar
and
why
it's
a
positive
generally
before
you
can
even
get
to
where
do
we
want
to
put
it?
F
Solar
is
permitted
as
an
accessory
use
throughout
the
majority
of
the
city,
but
it
open
space
is
not
one
of
those
zones
where
it's
it's
called
out
is
permitted,
so
it
starts
out
as
an
accessory
using
an
r1,
and
then
it
water
falls
down
through
most
of
the
other
zoning
districts
in
the
city.
Open
space
is
kind
of
its
own
animal
and
it
has
its
own
list
of
permitted
and
accessory
uses
there.
F
So,
as
I
was
looking
through
to
try
and
figure
out
how
what
the
best
way
would
be
to
propose
this
to
the
city
as
a
use,
we
consider
the
ability
the
option
of
rezoning
it.
We
obviously
are
working
with
the
university.
F
So
there's
you
know
some
more
aggressive
options
that
you
know
talk
about
when
cities
and
other
public
entities
have
a
conflict
on
zoning,
we
don't
really
want
to
go
down
any
of
those
routes.
If
we
can
help
it,
I
think
the
rezoning
option,
the
one
that
would
make
the
most
sense,
would
be
a
manufacturing
district.
I
think
we
could
probably
qualify
under
that's
a
really
broad
list
of
uses
that
are
permitted
there
as
a
principal
use.
F
In
our
code
somewhere,
I
know
that
the
city
is
doing
its
own
solar
project
out
towards
the
east
side
of
the
city,
and
so,
as
we
talked
through
that
I
said
you
know,
we'd
be
happy
to
propose
that
you
know
as
part
of
our
application
if
we
can
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone,
we're
open
to
that,
as
opposed
to
just
doing
an
application
that
that
really
only
talks
about
this
property.
F
To
be
honest,
we're
we're
neutral
on
which
direction
we
go.
You
know
whether
we
try
to
revise
the
zoning
code
to
allow
for
this.
Under
the
current
zoning
or
whether
we
apply
for
some
sort
of
a
rezoning,
and
then
you
know
likely,
a
variance
of
some
kind
would
be
what
we
would
need.
So
the
the
proposal
that
you
know
as
we
sat
down
and
came
up
look
through
this
is
you
know
I.
F
I
actually
think
that
solar,
especially
if
you
are
talking
about
some
of
the
recreational
amenities,
the
walking
trails,
the
signage
and
educational
stuff
that
they're
talking
about
putting
in.
I
think
that
actually
fits
relatively
well
with
the
open
space.
You
know
solar
of
this
scale,
there's.
Obviously
the
installation
there's
a
little
bit
of
maintenance,
but
there's
really
not
much
traffic.
There's
not
much.
There's
no
dust!
There's
no
noise!
There's
you
know
not
a
lot
of
impact
on
neighbors
arising
from
an
installation
of
this
sort.
F
So
the
proposal
that
we
had
was
to
add
this
in
under
the
list
of
principal
permitted
uses
within
an
open
space
zone.
I
know
there's
not
a
lot
of
other
ones
within
the
city,
but
there
are
a
few
other
open
space
zone
properties,
but
requiring
that
there
be
still
be
some
connection
to
some
of
the
other
uses
that
are
permitted
in
the
in
the
district,
so,
whether
that's
resource
preservation,
I
think
there's
an
argument
that
this
is
resource
preservation.
F
If
you
look
at
it
on
a
global
scale,
but
it
you
know
if
you're
looking
just
at
you
know,
we
want
to
leave
the
trees
in
the
you
know
the
dirt
where
they
are.
I
think
you
know
accounting
for
some
percentage
of
the
property
if
you
want
to
put
in
an
installation
of
disability
or
of
this
sort,
counting
for
some
percentage
of
the
property
to
remain
for
the
other
uses
that
are
permitted
in
this
district.
F
F
So
that's
the
proposal
that
we
have
we're,
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
it,
we're
happy
to
get
feedback
from
you
all
as
to
you
know
what
you
think
that
would
be
most
respect
receptive.
The
city
would
be
most
receptive
to
and
most
beneficial
for
the
city,
if
that,
if
you
know
the
planning
commission
and
if
you
think
council,
maybe
doesn't
have
an
appetite
for
a
zoning
change
to
account
for
this,
we'll
go
back
and
we'll
figure
out
an
application
for
this
specific
site.
A
I've
got
a
question
and
then
a
general
comment.
I
know
that
for
solar
arrays,
you
know
a
solar
farm
of
this
size.
Would
there
have
to
be
fencing
around
this,
and
my
reason
for
asking
is
we're
talking
pollinators,
we're
talking
potential
research
facility
down
there,
a
dog
park
which
all
would
require
access
in
some
way
or
another.
So
how
would
that
work
with
this
project
in
having
to
have
a
perimeter
fence
around
the
boundary
of
the
solar
farm?
So.
F
My
understanding
and
these
guys
know
that
the
technicals
more
than
I
do,
my
understanding
is
the
arrays
themselves
need
to
be
fenced,
and
so
we
would
have
a
fence
around
each
set
of
array
panels
and
then
the
trails
and
the
other
things
would
be
kind
of
in
in
and
among
them,.
G
On
the
property,
so
there
wouldn't
be
a
contiguous
perimeter
fence
around
the
100
acres.
We
would
have
a
series
of
maybe
two
or
three
separate
fences
that
provide
perimeter
for
certain
areas
of
the
solar
panels
and,
as
austin
said,
and
amongst
those
two
three
different
fences
we
see
leaving
walking,
kernels
and
pollinators
throughout
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
that
answers
that
it's
good
to
know,
because
again
I
do
know
that
these
do
require
fencing
around
them.
Here's
my
general
comment,
you
know,
and
I'm
gonna
on
the
for
the
record.
I
want
to
read
the
first
sentence
under
230409
permitted
uses
in
open
spaces
general
conditions,
land
land,
which
is
to
retain
as
open
spaces,
may
be
used
for
recreation,
agriculture,
cemeteries,
resource
protection
and
other
purposes
specified.
Under
this
section,
the
city
of
athens
is
committed.
A
City
council
brought
forward
a
resolution
in
2021
indicating
that
we
are
a
city
that
wants
to
see
a
reduction
in
our
carbon
emissions
by
50
by
the
year
2030..
That's
a
tall
order
for
a
city
our
size
to
be
able
to
accomplish
that.
That's
in
reference
to
the
2010
carbon
emission
levels,
which
we
worked
with
a
group
called
perfection
group
that
came
in
and
looked
at,
all
of
our
city
lights
and
building
envelopes
and
whatnot,
and
so
we
have
the
data
to
support
that.
A
A
So
I
in
in
thinking
about
it
and
thinking
about
the
one
section
in
here
that
talks
about
resource
protection
to
me
reducing
our
carbon
emissions
as
a
community
that
is
resource
protection
because
we're
we
are
protecting
one
of
two
elements
that
we
as
human
beings
cannot
live
without
air,
clean
air
and
clean
water.
Certainly
we
need
food
we'll
get
to
that.
You
know
in
another
meeting
in
another
time,
and
and
what
this
project
represents
to
me
is
is
one
of
of
several
initiatives
that
we
are
looking
at
here
in
the
city
of
athens.
A
We
look
at
the
solar
array
that
we
have
at
the
water
treatment
plant
that
is
feeding
directly
behind
the
meter
along
with
a
microgrid
to
where
for
bed
we
were
to
lose
complete
power
at
least
we'd
be
sustainable
for
a
longer
period
of
time
than
we
were
a
year
ago
with
being
able
to
have
that
under
operation,
we
are
exploring
our
own
2.5
megawatt
solar
array,
that's
something
that
has
been
presented
to
council.
It's
on.
A
You
know
we'll
see
what
2022
has
in
store
for
us,
so
that
all
said,
I
am
certainly
open
to
to
looking
at.
Whichever
way
this
needs
to
go,
whether
I'd
like
to
hear
the
opinion
of
the
other
commissioners,
whether
it
is
a
zoning
change
or
if
it's
clearly
putting
in
open
spaces,
you
know
language.
That
again,
in
my
mind,
is
resource
protection.
When
we're
talking
about
solar,
I
would
probably
feel
the
same
way
if
it
was
wind.
A
Unfortunately,
we
have
hills
and
haulers
and
that's
just
not
the
most
conducive
form
of
alternative
energy
that
we've
got
going
for
us
micro,
hydro,
someday
in
the
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
I
kind
of
dig
micro
hydro
is
the
hawking
river
reliable
enough
in
terms
of
its
flow,
probably
not,
but
again,
not
a
energy,
renewable
energy
source
that,
in
my
opinion,
is
off
the
table.
B
I
would
say
that
I
I'm
the
project
excites
me.
I
would.
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
do
more
with
that.
You
know
they
they
put
in
a
solar
array
at
the
community
center,
which
I
think
was
a
a
wonderful
use
of
to
take
advantage
of
the
parking
that
is
under
it.
You
know
and
continue
to
have,
a
dual
use
for
that
property,
and
I
I
just
think
this
is
a.
This
is
a
great
idea.
B
Yeah
as
well,
my
only
you
know
that
it
almost
seems
like
in
terms
of
doing
this.
I
don't
know
how
long
it
would
take
to
change
the
zoning
regulations
to
include
your
red
bar
in
there.
It
may
be
easier
for
you
guys
to
proceed
and
try
to
to
get
a
variance
and
allow
the
city
to
parallel,
maybe
promote
doing
something.
I
don't
know
just
a
just
a
thought.
There.
E
Different
approaches,
you
know
probably
the
ideal
one
we
get
it
to
be
explicitly
stated.
Is
they
proposed
here
in
this?
You
know
a
parallel
approach
could
be
you
know,
to
go
and
proceed
under
the
process
of
doing
it
as
a
variance,
you
know,
citing
the
language
about
the
resource
protection.
In
that
case
it
would
go
to
bga.
Is
that
correct,
yeah
kelvin?
So
you
know
that
might
be
the
best
approach
from
the
beginning
and
then
in
parallel,
go
ahead
and
get
this
added
just
in
preparation
for
future
projects
yeah.
So.
E
I
I
have
a
a
question
and
something
you
said
about,
and
this
is
you
know
specifically
to
your
expertise.
You
know.
Having
worked
for
the
city
for
a
number
of
years,
I've
had
a
couple
occasions
where
we've
had
a
disagreement
with
the
university
when
it
comes
to
zoning,
and
you
talked
about
more
more
aggressive
options
when
two
public
entities
disagree
now.
E
My
understanding
with
this
project
is,
is
the
land
is
owned
by
a
it's
not
owned
by
the
university
and
and
ultimately
it's
not
being
leased
by
the
university
it's
being
leased
by
a
private
entity?
That
then,
is
selling
the
electricity
to
the
university.
So
are
those
aggressive
options
still
applicable
in
those
particular
situations?
I.
F
Think
there's
two
answers
your
question.
I
think
they
could
be.
I
think
you
know
that
line
of
case
law
is
in
my
experience.
It
usually
comes
down
to
a
staring
contest
between
the
two
entities
being
frank
and
again,
I've
usually
been
on
the
the
local
government
side
dealing
with
counties
in
those
those
instances.
F
I
think
the
second
you
know
answer
is:
we
could
probably
adjust
the
deal
if
we
had
to,
I
think,
for
a
variety
of
reasons:
we'd
rather
not
we'd,
rather
keep
it
structured,
as
is,
but
I
think
if
we
like,
if
there
was
no
other
option,
I
think
that's
something
we
could
look
into
interesting
to
address
the
ownership
issue,
because
I
do
think
if
ou
owned
it
and
leased
it.
I
think
that
would
be
it's
a
different
question
to
your
point.
E
Yeah
it
is,
it
absolutely
is
a
different
question.
Basically,
the
university
just
has
to
explain
to
the
city
why
they
can't
follow
the
city
zoning
if
they
own
the
land
and
want
to
do
something
with
their
land,
and
they
have
to
do
it
in
this
forum
and
that's
that's
the
extent
of
it.
E
E
Want
to
do
anything,
I
support
this
project,
but
you
know
I
wanted
to
make
a
point
to
say
that
you
know
I
mean
we
take
our
home
rule
seriously
here
and
you
know
we
we
work
together
very,
very
well
with
ohio
university.
In
fact,
it's
better
than
it's
been.
You
know
my
entire
time
here
and-
and
I
want
to
see
this
project
go,
but
you
know
last
thing:
we
want
to
have
happen
and
say
well
we're
going
to
do
it
anyway,
yeah
without
falling
your
life.
E
A
All
right,
I
I
in
closing-
I
guess
what
I'd
like
to
say,
because
you
kind
of
opened
it
up
with
and
looking
at
city
code
and
identifying
the
fact
that
we
have
really
kind
of
unshackled
a
lot
of
our
residential
solar
via
soul,
smart.
I
have
to
give
credit
to
soulsmart.
A
I
think
it
was
one
of
the
smartest
things
that
cities
of
athens
has
done
in
quite
some
time
to
where
we're
very
conscious
and
diligent
about
making
sure
that
we're
cutting
through
the
red
tape
for
residential
solar
here
in
a
city,
the
other
thing
being
that
you,
you
may
already
realize
that
and
again.
This
is
another
example
of
the
dedication
of
the
city
as
well
as
the
citizens
that
76
of
the
citizens
voted
to
have
a
carbon
fee
attached
to
their
utility
bill
for
municipal
solar.
A
Again,
that's
not
for
this
project
couldn't
be
applied
to
that.
But
again
I
I'm
very
much
in
favor
for
this
project
moving
forward,
and
I
appreciate
the
commissioner's.
E
Questions
and
comments
yeah
one
other
thing.
I
talked
to
the
staff
here
earlier,
sir.
The
irony
is
that
right
across
the
river
from
this
is
the
west
state
street
park,
which
truly
is
open
space
that
you
used
for
you
know
ball
games
and
dogs
running
around
and
everything
else
that
zone
manufacturing,
which
would
be
this
would
be
absolutely
permitted.
No
problem.
Meanwhile,.
E
This
under
utilized
land
across
the
river,
where
this
is
an
ideal.
C
You
also
have
like,
if
I
can
interject
on
that,
for
open
space
zoning.
You
know
when
you
look
at
the
things
that
are
that
are
allowed
to
be
on
there.
Well,
like
golf
courses
are
allowed,
and
that
would
I
would
assume
if
you
need
to
build
a
clubhouse
and
equipment,
storage,
garages
and
things
like
that
on
a
clubhouse
or
at
a
golf
course
facility.
C
C
We
would
say,
of
course
we
wouldn't
even
think
twice
about
it
or
on
top
of
their
parking
lot
or
something
like
that,
and
so
there's
like
you,
you
can
use
it
as
an
accessory,
even
if
the
use
might
be
something
that
we
that
might
have
other
offsetting.
You
know
more
of
a
negative
impact
on
the
environment
or
on
the
open
space,
or
something
like
that,
but
as
a
as
a
principal
use,
we
kind
of
scratch
our
head
with
this.
C
It
should
also
be
noted,
of
course,
that
our
zoning
code
and
this
type
of
a
land
use
has
never
really
been
considered
for
as
far
as
it's
always
just
kind
of
been
assumed
that
coal
is
going
to
be
what
we
get
or
we're
going
to
come
up
with.
Rooftop
solar
all
over
the
community
and
rooftop
solar
is
not
happening
very
rapidly
across
the
u.s
and
at
least
in
ohio.
It's
not
athens.
C
County
actually
has
one
of
the
highest
rates
of
rooftop
solar
in
the
count
in
the
state
higher
than
some
of
our
larger
municipal
counties,
with
a
lot
of
a
lot
more
population
and
there's
still
not
a
lot
in
athens
county,
you
can
drive
down
the
street
and
see
how
how
few
people
actually
have
solar
and
so
getting
us.
This
far
with
projects
like
this
to
mayor
patterson's
point
are
going
to
go
a
big
way
towards
achieving
a
lot
of
our
goals.
A
All
right,
mr
look,
I'm
really
glad
you
brought
up
that
point
about
golf
courses.
I
know
that
we
had
discussed
that
some
time
ago
and
here
is
also
swimming
pools.
You
know,
so
you
you
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
are
permissible
right.
They
all
require
ancillary
buildings
of
some
type
to
be
associated
with
them
and
and
so
to.
Your
point
is
well
taken
that
you
know
if
there
was
a
clubhouse
with
a
pool
that
has
a
pool
house
and
so
and
so
forth,
and
they
say
yeah.
A
G
Yes,
the
power
purchase
agreement
with
the
university
will
have
a
base
level
of
20
to
25
years,
with
the
possibility
to
extend,
but
we
are
leasing
the
land
for
50
years.
So
we
anticipate
even
at
the
university
we're
no
longer
interested
in
the
contract
after
25
years.
The
clark
street
substation
is
closer
than
the
university,
so
we
would
put
the
energy
on
in
front
of
the
meter
to
continue
being
able
to
utilize
the
asset.
F
G
From
an
investment
standpoint,
it's
sort
of
like,
if
you
own
a
big
asset,
you're,
going
to
continue
to
invest
in
it,
integrate
the
latest
technologies
after
15
to
20.
G
A
Great
well,
we
will
look
forward
to
this
coming
forward
again
as
a
case,
because
that's
the
next
next
iteration
of
this
process,
going
through
the
planning
commission.
E
D
With
it
where
you
wanted
to
make
all
of
the
open
space
have
this
for
future,
because
this
probably
won't
be
the
last
sure,
solar
array
that
we
see
so
you
may
want.
You
may
want
to
think
about
doing
a
dual
path
here,
yeah
we
can
caucus
about.
A
D
Director
riggs
thanks
mayor
members
of
the
planning
commission:
this
is
960
east
state
streets.
There's
actually
two
addresses
here
will
be
two
addresses:
we're
looking
at
two
projects,
two
different
buildings
that'll
be
on,
have
the
same
access
point,
and
so
staff
had
actually
asked
that
you
consider
these
two
projects
together,
they'll
be
built
and
constructed
together.
They'll
have
similar
issues
with
traffic
and
with
the
slopes
on
the
back
as
well.
D
D
It's
a
big
right
away
there,
and
so
that
you
see
the
parking
that's
located
right
against
east
state
street.
Most
of
that
against
east
state
street
will
be
in
the
city's
public
right
away.
D
The
idea
for
that
was
that
we
we
know
that
there
may
be
some
soil
conditions
on
the
north
side
of
this
property
that
we
were
concerned
about
and
by
moving
the
whole
project
to
the
south.
We
reduce
the
amount
or
the
impact
on
that
hillside,
so
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
so
much
about
slope,
stability,
etc.
I
Rpg,
my
name
is
jared
decker,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
pm
company,
as
well
as
our
business
partners.
Rpg
management-
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
can't
see
what
you're
looking
at,
but
I
have
the
most
current
version.
I
I
I
A
Access
the
apartment,
complex,
and
it
has
to
do
with
with
both
of
these-
both
of
these
builds
will
have
drive-throughs
associated
with
them.
A
Okay,
with
that,
my
question
becomes
the
obvious:
where
are
we
in
regards
to
our
zoning
code,
when
it
pertains
to
a
drive-through
and
residential
neighborhoods.
D
G
E
But
they're
zoned,
I
think
they're
not
zoned
to
fire.
B
D
B
And
so
what
you're
saying
is
this
dotted
line
here
on
the
front
at
the
front,
the
south
edge
of
the
parking?
That's
really
not
the
property
line.
E
B
E
State
street
right
away.
Yes,
I
had
a
couple
questions.
Is
this
going
to
be
two
parcels?
It's
all
said
and
done,
or
one.
E
That
was
my
my
point
here.
You
know
there'd
have
to
be
shared
access,
easements
for
that
one
drive
sure
so
that
there's
not
a
contract
in
the
future.
Also,
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
you
propose
a
an
access
to
the
adjacent
adjoining
private
property
parcel.
There.
Have
you
spoken
to
the
owners
of
that
about
that
access
and
gaining
an
easement
from
them?
Basically,
as
an
outlet.
I
So
the
I
guess
it's,
the
western
edge
of
that
of
that
drive
aisle.
What
that
is,
is
actually
an
18
foot
right
away
on
our
property.
Is
it
and
that
right
away
was
implemented
to
benefit
the
house
at
the
northwest
corner
of
this
drawing
gotcha?
So
if
we
were
to
use
that,
we
would
make
it
a
one
way
or
be
an
exit
only.
It's
basically
at.
I
E
It
might
be,
it
might
be
useful.
It
might
be
certainly
from
a
from
a
public
safety
perspective.
If
you
know
just
another
access,
we've
had
instances
in
the
past,
where
you
know
there's
only
one
way
in
and
out
of
the
parcel,
and
then
you
close
it,
and
then
you
got
to
get
something
back
there.
That
might
be
a
good
right.
Another
question
that
I
have
for
you:
have
you
looked
at
this
in
particular
the
utilities
here,
specifically
the
sewer.
E
As
it
would
seem,
it's
a
force
main
in
front
of
this
property
that
is
flowing
from
east
to
west,
with
the
entrance
to
the
gravity
being
a
point
at
the
extreme
southwest
corner
of
this
property.
So
specifically
that
20
325
square
foot,
building
the
building
to
the
to
the
east.
You
know
access
to
that
gravity.
E
E
E
Sewer
in
front
of
the
property,
it's
a
force,
plane
got
it,
and
so
you
know
getting
into
it.
You
couldn't
get
into
it
without
pumping
right
unless
you
run
gravity
across
you
know
on
that
eastern
building,
all
the
way
over
to
that,
I
just
encourage
you
to
look
at
that
and
see,
as
you
get
in
the
design
sure
see
how
you
would
do
that
and-
and
my
only
other
point,
this
is
a
comment
this
is
for
my
fellow
commissioners.
This
has
been
a
parcel.
E
That's
been
underutilized
for
a
long
time
and
it's
good
to
see
some
development
here.
I
I'm
familiar
with
the
traffic
out
here
and
it's
not
nearly
the
basically
once
you
get
east
of
walmart,
the
volumes
drop
significantly
on
east
state
street,
so
I
don't
see
even
other
drive-throughs.
E
I
don't
see
the
trips
generated
out
here
being
being
a
problem
and
it's
good
to
see
these
businesses
go
into
this
otherwise
underutilized
parcel.
This
is
exactly
what
kind
of
you
know
what
what
this
is
known
for.
What's
supposed
to
happen
out
here,
I
think.
Historically,
the
problem
has
been.
It
was
a
gas
station
and
you
know
people
always
worry
about
you
know
doing
anything
with
an
old
gas
station
and
then
the
slope
stability
on
that
northern
side.
E
So
it
sounds
like
they've
got
a
plan
to
to
approach
that
this
will
generate
some
capacity
fees
for
the
city
for
for
water
and
sewer.
You
know
when
they
go
to
connect
to
the
system
as
well.
So
so
I
think
this
is
you
know
I
don't
have
an
objection.
I
just
ask
that
you
do
your
due
diligence
when
it
comes
to
seeing
how
you're
going
to
get
into
those
utilities.
I
E
I
We
do
our
geotechnical
engineers
are
actually
out
there
this
week
and
they
are
going
to
provide
a
slope
analysis
on
that
hill.
Try
to
mitigate
any
concerns
on
that
front,
yeah.
A
Just
a
question:
maybe
this
is
more
of
a
design,
philosophical
question
you
know:
have
you
ever
considered
having
the
parking
in
the
rear
as
opposed
to
parking
right
up
front
and
showcasing
the
two
buildings
themselves
if
they
are
going
to
be
designed
where
they're,
aesthetically,
pleasing
or
whatever?
A
You
know?
It's
a
conversation
that
I
know
the
planning
commission
has
had
years
ago,
something
that
has
certainly
been
communicated
by
one
of
our
former
city
council
members
is
looking
at
parking
areas
and
where
buildings
are
located,
just
a
thought
of
how
you're
parking
in
the
rear,
as
opposed
to
the
front,
I
think
from
a
business
standpoint.
It
always
looks
good
when
your
parking
lot
is
full
which
attracts
more
people,
hey,
there's
something
cool
going
on.
I
Here
and
we
have
one
of
the
things
we
find
as
as
retail
developers
is
the
when
you,
when
you
start
to
modify
the
prototypical
layout
of
a
national
store,
they
get
really
really
squirmy,
and
so
in
order
to
put
the
parking
in
the
rear.
I
You'd
also,
then
have
to
put
the
main
entrance
of
the
store
in
the
rear,
and
now
these
patios,
that
they
design
are
sort
of
facing
the
hillside.
No
one
can
see
them,
and
so
we
we
try
to
avoid
upsetting
them
as
as
much
as
we
can,
but
I
just
don't
know
from
a
from
a
business
perspective
if
that
would
be
acceptable
to
these,
to
these
tenants,
I'm
impartial,
frankly,
front
front
or
rear,
but
the
main
goal
is
to
keep
the
parking
near.
The
main
access
point.
B
B
So
the
three
tenants
two
of
them
would
have
drive-throughs.
The
third
one
would
be
a
non-drive-through
operation.
Is
that
correct.
I
That's
correct
and
it
would
also
not
be
a
restaurant
operation.
It's
designed
to
be
something
less
parking
intensive.
You
know
like
a
cell
phone,
a
bakery,
something
that
that
doesn't
compete
with
with
the
parking
hogs
already
on
the
site.
B
C
I
just
have
one
item
this
afternoon,
for
you
all
to
be
aware
of
the
city
did
receive
late
or
last
month,
updated
preliminary
fema
flood
insurance
rate
maps.
As
many
of
you,
I
know,
mayor
patterson
and
safety
director
stone
are
well
aware.
C
david
and
I
just
got
off
a
phone
call
with
fema
and
odnr's
water.
Our
flood
office
this
morning,
right
before
this
meeting,
to
talk
about
the
pathway
forward
with
the
process
for
adoption
of
those
maps.
C
It
will
probably
take
about
a
year
roughly
from
now
until
those
maps
are
adopted
at
the
federal
level,
so
that
we
can
use
them
for
a
regulatory
for
permitting
we're
trying
to
figure
out
if
there's
ways
to
to
try
to
manage
some
of
that,
because
the
like,
I
said,
the
maps
have
effectively
the
preliminary
maps.
Are
more
or
less
the
same
for
the
city
of
athens
today
as
they
were
in
2013
and
so
we're?
C
As
many
of
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
frustration
relating
to
those
maps
pending
for
so
long,
so
we're
coming
up
on
nine
years
in
march
for
those
maps
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
pathway
forward
to
better
assist
local
development
and
assist
us
as
regulatory
bodies
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
the
best
information
to
our
constituents
and
to
our
community
so
those
we
we
do
have
that
on
the
agenda
next
month
or
next
week,
mayor
patterson
for
the
regional
planning
commission,
since
we'll
have
the
county
commissioners
and
hopefully
the
representatives
from
nelsonville
they're,
talking
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
maps
I'll
bring
the
copies.
C
C
As
well
it'll
be
a
long
process,
we
do
we
we're
trying
to
schedule
a
there's,
a
required
meeting,
an
open
house
with
od
and
our
representatives
to
kind
of
kick
this
off,
where
people
can
review
the
maps
and
ask
questions
and
just
get
general
information
on
flooding,
trying
to
get
that
scheduled
right
now
to
get
that
moving
as
soon
as
possible.
C
D
A
A
C
We
have
so
the
city
of
athens
as
members
of
the
athens
county.
Regional
planning
commission
have
four
voting
members
for
four
seats
on
the
on
the
commission
with
voting
powers
under
the
bylaws
of
the
athens
county
regional
planning,
commission,
the
city's
four
members
are
appointed
by
the
city
planning
commission.
C
The
two
current
members
of
those
four
are
myself
myself
and
mayor
patterson
chris
fall
was
appointed
as
a
member
of
athens
city
council,
she's,
she's
no
longer
serving
for
city
council
and
our
other
member
erin
smedley.
She
has
since
resigned,
and
so
there's
two
vacancies
on
the
regional
planning
commission
for
the
city
of
athens.
There's
nothing
in
the
bylaws
of
the
regional
planning
commission
that
say
who
those
vacancies
are.
C
C
Historically,
we
have
appointed
typically
a
member
of
city
council
and
for
for
many
years,
harry
kaneshige,
who
was
a
member
of
the
city's
planning
commission,
also
served
and
nancy
bain
had
served
on
the
regional
planning
commission
for
for
a
time
as
a
member
of
the
planning
commission,
I
don't
want
to
my
recollection
with
member
bain
not
being
present
this
morning-
is
that
she
stepped
down
from
the
regional
planning
commission
because
she
had
a
conflict
with
some
volunteer
work.
C
She
was
doing
that
was
that
same
same
meeting
day,
the
planning
commission
regional
planning
commission
meets
the
second
thursday
of
every
month
at
8
00
a.m.
So
I
don't
think
we
have
any
action
we
need
to
do
today,
but
if
there's
any
interest
or
discussion
about
potential
membership
for
the
regional
planning
commission
by
all
means.
E
So
I
haven't
proposed
that
we
kind
of
take
this
as
information
and
then
maybe
kind
of
brainstorm
about
people
who
might
be
good
candidates
and
then
maybe
solicit
interest.
And
then,
in
our
next
meeting,
try
to
put
forth
a
slate
of
folks
that
this
body
can
kind
of
point
to
the
to
the
regional
world.
A
That's
perfect
and
since
this
is
being
broadcast,
live
anybody
who's
out
there
in
tv
land,
who's
watching
and
is
interested
in
serving
on
the
regional
planning
commission,
or
maybe
one
of
our
new
city
council
members
who
is
sitting
on
the
back
of
the
room
with
us
today.
We
will
get
to
work
on
that,
hopefully
by
our
next
meeting,
we'll
have
a
slate
that
we
can
bring
forward
and
come
up
to
full
strength
with
the
regional
planning
commission.
A
Our
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
january
20th.
So
two
weeks
from
today,
we
will
be
meeting
again
other
than
that.
I
think
all
business
of
the
athens
city
planning
commission
has
been
fulfilled
for
today,
and
so
therefore
I
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn
a
second
okay,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
hi.