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Athens Planning Commission - December 1, 2022
A
A
Good
afternoon
it
is
1202
on
Thursday
December
1st
welcome
to
December,
and
we
are
here
for
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
agenda
initially
calls
for
an
establishment
of
Quorum
and
looking
up
and
down
the
dice
we
do
have
quorum.
A
Also,
if
there's
anyone
who
wishes
to
address
the
Commissioners
today
and
speak
at
the
podium,
if
you'd
raise
your
right
hand-
and
do
you
agree
to
tell
everything
before
this
body,
everything
that
you're
going
to
disclose
is
honest
and
truthful
all
right.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
A
I
know
we
had
two
individuals
absent,
but
commissioner
Bain,
commissioner
katowski
and
myself
were
present.
Many
comments
on
those
meeting
minutes
I.
B
Have
none
hearing
I
would
move
that
we
accept
the
minutes
as
presented
for
October
20th.
Second,.
A
And
a
second
from
Member
Bain,
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
B
A
C
You
mayor
and
members
of
the
commission
the
this
is,
this
doesn't
happen
very
often,
but
we
actually
do
have
a
variance
request
for
a
minor
lot
split.
Sorry.
A
Let
me
interrupt
real
quick
before
you
go
on
just
to
recognize
that
commissioner
Austin
Phillips
will
be
recusing
himself
from
discussion
and
voting
on
this
particular
case.
Thank
you.
It's
coming
back.
Okay.
He
will
return
all
right.
I'm,
sorry,
doctor.
C
Yes
yeah,
so
this
is
a
minor
lot
split.
You
typically
won't
see
those
those
are
handled
by
staff.
A
minor
lot
split
is
less
than
five
Lots
created
from
a
from
one
tract
of
land.
This
one
does
have
four
tracks
with
a
remainder,
so
there's
five
Lots.
However,
the
city
code
requires
that
each
created
lot
be
at
a
three
to
one
Ratio
or
less,
and
this
does
this
particular
subdivision
does
not
meet
that.
C
C
If
I
could
just
comment
on
that,
typically,
what
we
want
to
see
in
in
City
proper
in
regular
Lots,
is
that
you
don't
have
a
real
long,
narrow
lot.
That's
the
purpose
of
the
three
to
one
ratio.
So
you
don't
want
a
30
40
foot
wide
lot,
that's
real
deep
and
then
you
just
have
room
enough
for
one
room
and
a
door
going
back
that
really
doesn't
have
as
much
impact
with
these
larger
Lots.
You
see.
C
These
lots
are
through
two
three
acres
in
size
that
that,
in
in
my
opinion,
that
that
three
to
one
ratio
is
really
for
the
small
City
lots
and
doesn't
apply
as
much
to
this.
However,
as
staff,
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
waive
that
requirement
and
that's
why
it
needs
to
come
to
Planning
Commission
for
review
and
a
variance
recommendation.
A
D
And
I'm
the
property
owner
for
this
and
I
agree
director
Riggs
I
mean
he
stated
pretty
clearly.
What
we
need
is
a
variance
on
that
three
to
one
and
again
these
are
pretty
large
Lots
they're,
two
to
three
acres
and
they're.
Most
of
them
are
over
150
feet
wide,
there's
one
that
at
the
road
Frontage
it's
140,
but
it
widens
out
when
you
get
about
25
feet
back
off
the
road,
it's
over
150
feet.
So
there's
there's
more
than
a
double
lot.
D
D
B
Well,
I
have
I
have
one
question
so
about
a
month
ago
we
receive
for
informational
purposes,
a
a
plat
map
that
showed
10
Lots.
So
there's
three
Parcels
that
I
believe
you
own
divided
into
10.
Lots
am
I
to
assume
that
you
don't
plan
to
do
that
with
the
other,
create
the
other
six
Lots
was.
D
I
was
unaware
of
that:
okay
I,
that
was
never
I,
never
applied
for
that
or
I
mean
I
did
have
a
hypothetical
conversation
about
that
possibility
with
director
Riggs
and
at
the
time
he
informed
me
that
you
know
he's
a
former
surveyor
and
we
were
trying
to
do
best
planning
like
what
would
be
a
good
plan
for
this,
those
other
those
other
Lots
I
I,
can't
it
depends
on
how
this
goes
and
what
we
do.
D
B
D
F
D
No,
that
even
if
I
did
all
three
of
those
today
on
three
different
applications,
I,
don't
believe
that
would
fall
into
a
major
subdivision.
They
would
each
be
a
minor.
That's
my
understanding.
B
Are
you
are
you
seeking
to
to
change
the.
B
Yeah
I'm
just
but
you
you
don't,
have
any
intention
of
making
it
R1
or
seeking
an
R1
for
this
at.
D
A
That's
all
I
am
yeah
Matt
a
question
for
you
just
more
from
a
topographical
standpoint.
You
know
the
the
portions
of
these
these
Lots
that's
furthest
away
from
the
boulevard.
You
know,
are
they
buildable
or
is
it
I
mean?
Is
it
steep
terrain
I
mean?
Can
you
give
me
some
senses
to
you.
D
D
When
you
get
past
that
300
foot
mark
it
gets
pretty
steep
and
actually
in
the
back
of
these
are
some
rock
face
with
some
caves
and
that
kind
of
stuff
on
lot,
two
no
I
in
my
opinion
and
I've
done
quite
a
bit
of
building
I,
would
say
the
back.
Half
of
these
is
not
buildable
I
mean
you
can
build
on
it.
D
We
see
stuff
on
cliffs,
there's
certain
people
that
build
on
things
that
amaze
me
put
swimming
pools
in
all
kinds
of
stuff
and
on
cliffs,
but
these
are
not
really
that
feasible
to
build
on
in
the
back
the
front's
very
nice,
though
it's
hard.
D
But
I'm
not
building
on
these
but
I
would
I
would
assume
that
they're
going
to
be
in
the
front
300
feet.
I
mean
that's
a
football
field
off
the
road,
so
I
mean
you
still
have,
but
yeah
I
would
assume
they're
going
to
be
up
there
and
in
conversations
I've
had
with
people
I
believe
that's
where
they
would
want
to
build.
A
D
Like
a
lot
of
lots
up
there
in
the
street
and
everything
else,
there's
a
50-foot
25
feet
on
each
side
of
that
line.
There's
a
50
foot
right
away.
That
cannot
be
built
in
being
at
that
Lots
over
I.
Think
it's
like
500
feet,
600
feet
deep,
that
50
foot
strip,
I,
don't
think
is
going
to
hinder
someone
from
building
a
home
somewhere
on
that.
There's!
There's
plenty
of
building
space
on
that,
regardless
of
the.
E
E
But
you're
gonna
have
to
you're
going
to
have
to
defend
this
with
a
buyer.
If
the
buyers
not
be
aware
yeah,
you
know,
there's
it.
D
D
D
E
D
E
D
Think
if
you're
looking
at
on
that
paper,
Nancy
that
it
looks
smaller,
but
when
you
go
up
there,
there
are
lots
across
the
street
systems
on
and
if
I
took
one
of
those
lots
and
put
it
in
front
or
behind
that
gas
line
it
would
fit
so
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
large
lot,
you're
talking
in
several
Acres
there
over
two
acres
and
so
the
a
normal
lot
inside
University
Estates.
You
could
put
two
or
three
of
those
homes
on
that
lot
up
here
you
mean
yeah
on
Lot
number,
four.
E
D
That,
well,
it
actually
is
more
buildable
Lots
one
two
and
three
are
a
bit
steeper
and
lot
three
starts
to
level
off
and
then
lot
four.
If
you
cross
the
the
gas
line
right
away,
there's
a
lot
of
buildable
space
behind
that,
and
it's
actually
a
pretty
neat
view,
because
that
gas
line
right
away
is
all
cut
and
trimmed.
And
if
you
go
up
there
and
stand
that
gas
line
right
away,
you
can
see
the
convo
you
can
see
the
city
I
mean
it's
an
amazing
view
on
that
lot.
D
A
You
can't
build
well,
they
kind
of
have
to
do
that.
Yes,
come
on.
There's
a
question
for
commissioner
stone
or
commissioner
or
director
Riggs
I
know
that
we
had
challenges
with
our
property
down
at
the
end
of
of
Kenny
Drive,
which
also
has
a
high
pressure
gas
main.
But
a
drive
or
a
driveway
can
be.
Is
that
permissible
to
build
over.
F
They'll
watch
you
when
you
build
it:
okay,
the
gas
company
anytime.
You
call
to
do
any
construction
around
one
of
them.
They
send
a
guy
out.
They
watch,
but
typically
driving
across
one
is
principal
yeah,
certainly
in
our
the
land
that
the
city
owns.
That
has
high
pressure
gases
on
we've,
built
driveways
across
them
and.
D
A
A
G
G
Another
hat
is
a
property
owner,
I
live
up
there
and
the
third
hat
I
guess
is
a
realtor.
I
represent
some
people
that
have
expressed
interest
in
and
have
signed
contracts
to
buy
a
couple
of
these
Lots,
probably
the
most
important
one
being
as
a
property
owner
and
on
a
homeowners
association
board,
with
Austin
being
that
this
was
zoned
R3
it
allowed
for
multi-unit
housing.
Originally
it
was
going
to
be
the
clubhouse
I
think
when
Dr
conard
started,
since
it
allows
multi-unit
housing.
G
This
acreage
is
being
proposed
to
be
divided
and
sold
to
single-family
homes
is
much
better
for
us
as
a
property
owner
up
there.
We
don't
want
to
see
apartments
up
there,
because
tenants
tend
to
not
have
much
vested
interest
in
the
community
and
drive
fast,
throw
trash
all
over
the
place,
and
they
just
don't
care
as
much
as
people
that
typically
are
homeowners.
So
having
three
or
four
houses
where
there
could
have
been
200.
People
is
by
far
preferred
by
myself
and
other
property
owners
up
there
that
live
there
as
a
realtor
I.
G
Really
don't
I'm,
not
that
concerned
about
the
commission
as
you're
selling
vacant
land.
It's
Matt's
not
giving
me
any
bonus,
I'm,
not
getting
very
much
money.
So
if,
if
it
the
deal
goes
through
one
way
or
the
other,
but
we
we
would
be
able
to
have
two
of
the
three
people
that
have
already
signed
contracts
live
into
development.
They
want
to
stay
in
the
development.
G
At
the
same
time,
working
with
the
people
that
have
proposed
Woods
Edge
in
the
back
again,
those
will
be
on
or
occupied
and
the
the
concern
up.
There
is
just
a
speeding
that
occurs,
which
is
why
we,
the
city,
was
nice
enough
to
put
in
speed
bumps
which
I'd
love
to
see
more
of
them,
but
I
just
thought
you'd
like
to
have
him
put
from
somebody
that
lives
there.
F
I
I
have
a
question:
I
have
a
question
in
is
Mr
warden
in
Your
Capacity
as
a
homeowner
that
lives
in
the
area
and
and
all
the
capacities.
One
of
the
things
you
brought
up
was
drivers
traveling
through
we've,
heard
complaints
here
from
some
of
your
fellow
residents
recently
about
only
one
way
in
and
out
of
University
Estates
I'm
curious
as
to
the
position
of
the
homeowners
association.
F
As
to
when
you
know
no
more
development
should
occur
before
a
roadway
is
required
to
access
the
back
end
of
University
States
from
another
from
another
place.
G
You
know
really
that's
not
been
a
a
big
topic
amongst
actually
it's
been
no
topic.
Quite
honestly,
I
know
I've
been
included
in
emails
from
Sylvia
Sylvie
and
that
hasn't
really
been
an
issue
to
us.
The
speeding
has
been
the
issue.
Do
I
think
it's
something
that
should
be
addressed
yeah.
You
know,
I
think
that
it
would
be.
G
You
know
what
concerns
me
and
my
response
yesterday
to
Austin
and
other
board
members
was,
as
with
most
people
that
live
on
the
other
side
of
the
railroad
tracks,
I
get
concerned
what
if
a
train
is
going
through
and
you
need
to
get
an
ambulance
or
a
fire
engine
out
there
and
and
having
that
second
access
that
was
originally
planted
there
Greenbrier
I
think
it
was
called
that
isn't
doing
any
good
to
solve
that
problem.
Okay,
you
still
got
to
get
beyond
the
train
track
so
having
a
access
coming
from
Slaters.
G
You
know
that
end
by
the
planes,
yeah
long
term-
that'd
be
great.
You
know,
especially
as
more
people
live
there.
You
know
as
you're
coming
south
on
33
and
you
live
in
the
development
man.
You
say
driving
all
the
way
around
to
get
home.
It's
just
that.
That
would
be
a
pretty
pricey
pretty
pricey.
You
know
you
get
acquired
a
land
and
build
the
street.
That's
not
going
to
be
cheap.
It'll,
take
all
of
your
street
budget
for
four
or
five
years
to
help
50
people
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
happen.
G
Okay
so
that'd
be
nice,
but
that
really
hasn't
been.
We
haven't
gotten
a
lot
of
pushback
from
people
in
the
community.
You
know
last
year
in
our
annual
homeowners
association
meeting,
the
speed
bumps
was
by
most
people
welcome,
but
we
had
one
resident
that
when
we
opened
it
up
to
General
discussion
said
that
you
know
she
didn't
like
him
because
she
had
to
slow
down
or
else
her
car
would
scrape
and
we're
like
yeah.
That's
why
they're
called
speed
bumps.
G
You
know
like
hello
yeah,
but
but
you
know,
the
speeding
has
been
the
bigger
issue,
not
not
having
a
second
access.
I,
don't
think
the
second
access,
even
if
Wood's
Edge
gets
built,
it's
only
going
to
be
like
50
units
52
units,
something
like
that
and
that's
why,
having
that
deed,
restricted
that
it
has
to
be
under
occupied
for
five
years,
is
sort
of
important
and
it's
going
to
be
ADA
Compliant
and
it's
just
housing.
It's
needed
David
asked
me
at
one
of
our
meetings
with
the
developers.
G
What
do
the
residents
up
there
think
about
this?
Do
they
want
it
or
not?
I
said
hell?
No,
they
don't
want
it
well,
you
know
why
do
they
want
50,
more
homeowners,
driving
up
down
the
street?
Speeding?
Okay,
that
isn't
the
issue.
Okay
I
mean
that
that
doesn't
matter
you
need
that
kind
of
housing.
Okay
in
Athens
everybody's
got
like
not
my
backyard
philosophy.
You
can't
do
that.
You
know
it's
a
good
place
to
have
it
it's
just.
G
F
You
I
can't
imagine
that
you'd
have
you
know
not.
Everybody
have
the
same
opinion
on
a
particular
topic
here
in
Athens.
The
only
reason
I
brought
that
up
is
over
the
weekend.
We
had
a
situation
where
we
had
a
down
tree
on
Old,
Coach
Road,
and
you
know
similar
type
situation
with
Oakmont
a
very
deep
development
with
one
way
in
and
out,
and
what
you
just
described
is
something
that
that
was
a
a
concern
and,
from
my
other
perspective,
as
the
safety
director
for
the
city.
Thank
you
for
your
input.
Can.
D
Anna
John
remembers
this,
but
in
2014
when
I
acquired
that
property
John,
let
me
know
very
quickly
that
his
grandkids
lived
right
next
to
that
property
because
that's
where
Brian's
house
was
and
if
I
thought
I
was
going
to
put
multi-family
or
apartments
out
there,
that
I'd
be
in
a
lawsuit
and
I
guess.
My
point
to
here
is
Andy.
Is
that
I
mean
right
now?
That's
R3,
multi-family
and
I've
had
multiple
offers
on
that
over
the
years.
D
That
would
net
me
a
lot
more
money
than
this
and
I've
refused
to
put
apartments
up
there.
For
me
because
of
the
the
area
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
most
recent
one
was
the
woda
project.
I
had
three
developers,
you
know
offering
significant
money
for
that
property
and
I
just
didn't
think
that
was
a
good
project
for
the
neighborhood.
So
you
know
to
your
point
of
you
know
one
way
in
or
out
you're
taking
something
that
could
potentially
be
two
to
three
hundred.
D
E
A
Yeah
that
that
doesn't
surprise
me
I
mean
I'm
sure
that
that
gas
line
is
servicing,
you
know
the
planes
or
whatever
and
they
had
to
cut
through
somewhere.
Okay,
any
other
questions
comments
all
right.
This
has
been
fruitful
I
believe
we
have
a
motion,
I
believe,
and
we
have
a
second
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
F
A
Aye
opposed
me,
one
opposition.
It
passes
okay,.
A
C
I
haven't
haven't
any
feedback
from
Paul
he's,
he
does
send
emails.
Occasionally
we
just
got
one
for
for
some.
Some
other
work
that
was
going
on,
but
I
don't
know,
sir
Andy.
If
you've
got
any
update
on
Paul.
F
The
only
thing
I
would
request
is,
perhaps
you
could
updated
Commissioners
unless
you
did
so
the
last
meeting
that
I
was
absent
on
the
Marietta
Memorial
culture
yeah.
C
So
yeah
there's
a
couple
things
going
on
with
the
with
Marietta
Memorial.
We
did
get
approval
from
the
Federal
Emergency
Management
agency,
floodplain
Administration,
to
allow
them
to
Begin
work,
so
I
called
them
middle
of
last
week.
I
think
Tuesday
told
them
that
they
were.
We
were
ready
for
them
to
go
ahead
and
start
earthwork
whenever
they
needed
to
do
that.
They
will
have
to
submit
some
additional
zoning
and
Land
Development
permits,
but
they've
got
a
temporary
Land
Development
permit
in
place
right
now,
so
they
could
have.
They
could
start.
C
Construction
I
was
hoping
that
they
would
start
this
week.
I
haven't
seen
any
activity
out
there.
Yet
I
did
talk
to
the
the
architect
for
the
project
and
he
he
says
that
they
will
try
to
do
some
work
this
year
and
they
expect
an
opening
spring
of
2023.
A
Good
news,
they're
building
that
site
announcements,
no
business.
A
Our
next
meeting
will
be
December
15th
here
in
council
chambers
at
noon,
and
that
is
if
we
have
things
that
Communications
that
come
forward,
because
we
don't
have
any
cases
outstanding
that
at
least
in
my
memory,
Patty
Dewey,
any
Communications
that
might
come
forward
as
a
case
or
director
Riggs.
No
okay,
I
didn't
think.
So.
A
We
also
have
as
one
of
our
duties
the
ability
to
appoint
somebody
to
the
Athens
County
Regional,
Planning
Commission,
regional
Planning
Commission
is
a
body
that
brings
forward
and
discusses
county-wide
projects
such
as
the
Route
50,
sewer
extension,
County,
Sewer
extension
and
a
sundry
of
other
things
that
we
have
been
discussing.
Everything
from
the
Johnson
Road
closure
and
the
impact
that
that
has
had
on
682
and
and
certainly
asking
ODOT
I,
know.
I've
got.
A
We've
got
Rob
delac
who's
here
with
us
today
in
the
audience,
Rob
serves
on
the
regional
Planning
Commission
as
well,
so
we
do
need
to
appoint
a
city
council
member
to
the
regional
Planning
Commission
council.
Member
spielness
has
submitted
her
resume
her
her
short
bio
anyway
and
is
willing
to
serve,
and
so
therefore,
I
would
like
this
body
to
consider
appointing
commissioner
sylvain
spielness
as
the
city
council
appointee
to
the
regional
Planning
Commission
motion
from
commissioner
Stone
I'll.
Second,
the
second
from
commissioner
Phillips
any
discussion
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
F
A
Opposed
same
sign,
all
right:
congratulations,
council,
member
spielness
motion
for
adjournment,
since
we
have
no
more
business
unless
I'm
missing
something.
Okay.