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Athens Planning Commission - May 4, 2023
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A
A
A
A
D
I
can
thank
you
mayor
members
of
Planning
Commission.
We
had
a
site
or
a
case
on
March,
the
second,
where
this
board
approved
the
site
plan
for
the
project
you
have
today
with
the
con
with
contingencies
that
they
address
the
comments
that
staff
had
regarding.
There
were
several
issues
there.
We
still
have
a
one
or
two
outstanding
concerns,
and
we
thought
it
would
be
more
appropriate
to
bring
it
back
to
this
board
to
see
how
they'd
like
to
resolve
those
those
concerns.
C
Members
of
the
Commission
in
your
packet,
there
is
a
letter
from
me
from
12
April
that
outlined
ultimately
staff's
concerns
after
some
back
and
forth
and
tried
to
try
to
distill
it
down.
To
you
know
three
key
issues,
and
that,
ultimately,
is
what
we're
here
to
talk
about.
Is
the
developers,
ability
or
inability
to
to
follow
those
particular
staff
requirements?
C
E
The
goal
here
being
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
all
have
a
understanding,
a
clear
understanding
of
the
problem
as
I
understand
it,
and
if
we
all
have
that,
then
this
is
Superfluous
anyhow,
we
can
continue
on,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
We
all
understand
that
the
issue
that's
trying
to
be
addressed.
E
E
First,
we've
hashed
this
area
with
a
do
not
block
intersection
signage
we've
hung,
do
not
block
intersection
signs
on
on
each
side
of
that
intersection
and
and
more
importantly,
if
we
look
at
the
bulk
of
the
cars
in
Starbucks
70
to
80
percent
of
those
cars
are
now
being
forced
out
of
the
secondary
interest
entrance
point.
The
the
westernmost
entrance
Point
reason
is
the
the
parks
on
the
right
side
of
the
Starbucks
site
are
angle,
so
those
people
have
to
go
around
the
drive-through
and
then.
E
Secondly,
anybody
coming
through
the
drive-through
has
to
leave
through
that
secondary
entrance
point.
So
fair
question
is:
is
everyone
going
to
abide
by
the
do
not
block
intersection,
sign
I
think
we
can
probably
all
agree.
The
answer
to
that
question
is
no,
but
at
some
point
we've
got
to
have
faith
in
our
citizens
to
do
what's
right
and
and
not
do
that,
but
to
Belton
suspenders
that
problem
we
force
70
to
80
percent
of
the
Starbucks
traffic
out
of
the
other
entrance.
E
E
E
Secondly,
I
think
we
would
all
agree
that
the
majority
vast
majority
of
people
leaving
this
site
are
going
to
be
turning
right
out
of
either
entrance.
They
they
elect
to
leave
from,
and
so
the
the
stacking
component
at
the
main
entrance
Point
really
becomes
lesser
of
an
issue,
because
those
folks
aren't
most
of
them
are
not
waiting
to
take
a
left
turn
so
happy
to
you
know,
feel
some
questions
on
that
or
talk
about
the
other
issue.
If
we'd,
like
can
I
can
I
answer
any
questions
on
on
the
access
issue.
A
F
From
Columbus
been
doing
it
for
about
35
years,
I've
done
five
of
these
through
Central
Ohio.
All
the
way
down
to
West
Virginia
did
several
hundred
drive-throughs
and
I
realized.
No
one
wants
a
safety
concern.
We
don't
want
to
say
be
concerned,
but
I
can
tell
you
a
lot
about
Chipotle.
We
don't
have
any
affiliation
with
Starbucks.
Obviously
we're
two
different
companies.
We
like
to
be
side
by
side.
You
see
that
when
you
come
to
Columbus
and
other
locations,
it's
because
our
customers
come
at
different
times.
We
don't
want
a
Raising
Cane's.
F
Next,
we
don't
want
a
McDonald's.
They
we
open
11
o'clock.
Our
peak
time
period
is
at
11
30
to
1
30,
because
people
got
to
go
back
to
work.
Well,
that's
not
therapy
time!
Then
I'm,
not
a
coffee
drinker,
but
I've
been
around
the
coffee
people
you
drink.
The
first
cup
of
coffee
in
the
morning
put
your
second
cup
of
coffee,
some
guys.
Here's
your
second
cup
around
three
or
four
o'clock.
Is
that
perfect
right,
the
four
the
third
one.
F
If
you
have
one
is
after
dinner,
their
business
is
spread
out
because
you'll
have
to
go
back
to
work.
So
that's
the
reason
we
like
to
partner
with
someone
who
doesn't
create
issues
on
the
site.
So
it's
a
matter
of
customers
that
come
in
on
the
site,
we're
also
cognizant
of
keeping
you
safe,
keeping
things
open
and
by
the
way,
even
that
we
are
not
a
drive-thru.
F
We
are
a
pickup
window,
big
difference
that
the
younger
generation,
which
I'm
not
part
of
anymore
you
order
on
your
phone
and
and
when
you
order
on
your
phone,
there
are
10
minute
brackets
that
only
allow
them
to
order
so
much
you
go
down.
The
street
I
have
to
sit
down
here.
I
did
this
original
Chipotle
many
years
ago,
The
Original,
Taco
Bell
you
go
in
there.
There's
nobody
in
line,
there's
25
words
on
the
right-hand
side
of
their
pickup,
the
kit,
the
chill.
F
Now
the
kids
wear
this
stuff
they
won't
end.
They
want
out
same
way,
goes
with
the
way
they
do
business.
When
we're
doing
with
these
pickup
windows,
it's
the
way
it
works.
So
you
spread
yourself
out,
and
you
don't
put
yourself
in
Jeopardy
or
parking
for
Access
and
for
coming
on
off
that
lot.
It's
the
the
wave
of
the
new
stuff
even
McDonald's
is
trying
to
do
it.
You
have
good
pressure,
we
see
it
on
TV
or
there's
still
other
drives.
We
don't.
C
F
F
This
particular
location,
no,
no
speaker,
no,
no
wires.
No,
no.
This
is
a
matter
of
you've,
got
to
regulate
yourself
and
I
I,
don't
know
again,
I
don't
know
who
does
I
I
have
problems
myself
when
you
order
something
when
you
go
pick
it
up
from
one
of
those
restaurants,
you
know
say:
I'm
gonna
pick
it
up.
They
tell
you
how
you
got
to
be
there
at
605,
because
if
you're
there
early,
you
know
you're
not
going
to
get
it.
That's
the
system
that
they're
using.
F
Don't
know
what
they
do,
but
if
it
don't
have
one
I
guess
that
would
be
the
end.
I,
don't
know
how
Donatos
operates.
Thank
you.
I've
lost
a
little
bit,
but
yes,
there
is
every
one
of
these
and
we
have
I,
don't
know
how
many
we
have
now
in
Columbus,
but
we
have
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
them
now
we're
only
allowed
to
do
them
matter
of
fact.
In
today's
world,
I,
probably
wouldn't
it'd,
be
a
50
50
chance.
F
If
I
could
even
put
this
thing
in
the
old
movie
theater
the
kids
don't
like
it,
I
mean
they
want
I
hate
to
say
it.
We
say
about
wanting
to
walk
to
things
and
that's
all
cool,
but
we
as
a
generation
still
like
to
get
it
and
go,
but
we
have
no
menu
board.
We
have
no,
and
you
better
have
your
order.
They
will
not
take
it.
There,
there's
nothing
to
order
there.
F
E
So
in
some
on
the
traffic
issue,
I
would
say
the
the
solution
proposed
by
the
city
is
in
our
estimate
about
120
to
130
000
solution
that
we
can't
tolerate
from
a
budgetary
perspective.
But
what
we've
done
is
put
forth
A
solution
that
we
feel
provides
the
equal
outcome
at
a
price
we
can
afford
and
get
this
project
going.
F
F
We
have
to
work
with
Starbucks
on
one
side,
your
city
on
the
other
and
us
you
know
it's
not
easy
to
tell
your
relatives
were
to
have
Thanksgiving,
and
here
we
are,
you
know
we're
trying
to
make
this
happen
and
we've
tried
and
we've
tried,
and
on
top
of
this,
what
we
find
out
is
you
got
something
out
there
that
I've
only
heard
about
it's
called
plastic
soils.
Is
that
what
you
enjoy?
F
Is
that
what
you
call
those
things
out
there
is
that
the
name
when
you
cut
into
that
Hillside
it
starts
moving
even
more
so
in
order
that
thing
doesn't
move
out
on
our
building,
we
have
to
put
a
350
000
wall
down
the
Bedrock.
Now
not
too
many
companies
can
absorb
that,
but
we
we
are.
We've
upped
our
price
like
three
times
to
take
that
so
I
know,
that's
not
a
concern
on
the
traffic,
but
all
the
money.
All
the
time,
all
the
effort
we're
at
the
end,
we
got
no
more
time.
F
B
B
H
B
E
Up
and
it's
a
problem
sure
so
a
couple
things
there
first
is
that
road
is
on
our
property
and
and
the
the
title
to
the
property
states
that
maintenance
is
to
be
shared
with
all
people
that
use
the
road
I'm,
pretty
certain
I'm
going
to
have
a
hard
time
going
and
getting
our
neighbors
to
stroke.
A
ten
thousand
dollar
check
to
repave
a
road.
E
Secondly,
the
trench
drain,
if
it's
a
maintenance
issue,
we're
pretty
familiar
with
maintenance
agreements
and
maintenance
obligations
on
things
like
that
that
cities
have
imposed
previously
and
then
thirdly
and
I
think,
most
importantly,
you
know
if
we've
got
hard
to
price
it
without
getting
the
engineers
to
actually
draw
it
up
and
price
it
for
us.
But
you
know
you
call
that
twenty
to
forty
thousand
dollars
of
work
regretting
that
road.
E
If
we
leave
the
deal
doesn't
happen,
where's
the
water,
going
it's
going
to
State
Street,
so
we're
proposing
a
solution
that
we
think
helps
mitigate.
Does
it
solve
every
concern?
Probably
not
well
the
trench
drain
back
up
with
silk?
Probably,
but
we
can
clean
that
up
and
help
better
the
problem,
as
opposed
to
packing
up
and
going
to
the
next
town
and
and
doing
nothing
for
for
what's
there
today.
So
I
would
ask
you
to
at
least
consider
some
benefit
versus
no
benefit.
C
E
What
I
would
typically
do
is
enter
into
an
agreement
with
the
city
and
record
that
against
the
property,
and
that
agreement
would
say,
of
course,
that
that
all
four
or
five
beneficiaries
of
that
trench
strain
are
going
to
share
in
its
maintenance
costs.
You
know
why
would
we
bear
the
burden
entirely
of
a
shared
road
that
that
we
use?
You
know
10,
20
percent
of.
E
E
So
there
was
a
if
we
look
back
at
the
history
of
this
case.
There
were
concerns
initially
raised
about
the
load
on
that
one
curb
cut,
so
we
put
that
in
as
a
as
a
proposed
solution
or
or
a
mitigation
Factor.
If
you
will
to
that
concern,
so
if
you
guys
want
to
get
rid
of
it
and
permit
it
that
way,
we're
happy
to
do
that.
That
saves
us
time
and
money,
but
we
thought
we'd
put
it
in
for
at
the
city's
request
effectively.
E
B
E
I
I've
been
super
impressed
with
what
you
guys
have
done.
Obviously
this
is
a
site
that
not
many
people
could
afford
to
make
work,
and
you
guys
have-
and
you
obviously
done
your
due
diligence
and
are
willing
to
invest,
like
you
said,
on
the
retention
wall
and
all
that
stuff.
So
I
for
one
are
very
impressed
and
thank
you
guys
have
kind
of
done
everything
that
we've
asked
up
to
the
ability
that
you're
able
to
do
so.
I
A
C
They're
flaky,
thank
you
would
you
be
willing
to?
You
know,
there's
obviously
question
about
yeah
your
opinion
of
how
this
particular
solution
is
going
to
address
the
concern
about
traffic
versus
my
staff's
opinion
about
how
this
particular
solution
is
going
to
affect
traffic.
You
know
you
know,
assuming
that
we
permit
you
to
build
it.
This
way,
the
way
that
you've
posed
and
then
you
go
away,
and
there
is
indeed
a
problem
someone's
got
to
fix
it
and
it
won't
be
the
property
owner
necessarily.
C
B
E
C
You
know
we
were
thinking
a
bond
with
a
payment
amount
of
around
sixty
thousand
dollars,
as
we
discussed
this,
because
we
think
that
would
be
about
the
cost
associated
with
widening.
That
said,
I
don't
know
what
your
cost
would
be
for
Bond
a
two-year
period
for
such
a
such
a
such
an
instrument,
A
lot
of
times
the
way
bonding
ends
up
working
for
folks
is
is
a
function
of
the
size
of
the
company
and
sure
they
have
the
ability
to
purchase
sure.
C
C
You
know
immediately
due
to
congestion
happening
on
the
property
sure
you
know
two
ways
out.
Basically,
it
gives
more
queuing
or
two
two
lanes
out
gives
more
queuing
and
more
space
to
stack
a
couple
more
cars,
particularly
a
left
Turner,
who
maybe
be
waiting
for
a
period
of
time
in
a
space
and
then
and
then
decrease
the
likelihood
of
there
being
queuing
on
the
property
and
did
I
say
that
correctly.
D
C
E
G
E
So
is
it
gonna
happen
yeah,
it's
probably
gonna
happen
from
time
to
time,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
city
has
to
make
a
cost-benefit
analysis
of
that
happening.
Every
so
often
compared
to
the
benefit
of
of
the
investment
that
we're
talking
about
can
I
say
a
car
is
never
going
to
stack
on
State
Street,
no
I
can't
say
that,
but
are
we?
Are
we
killing
eight
to
ten
to
12
million
dollars
of
investment
over
a
car
stacking
on
State
Street?
Every
so
often
that's
the
question.
I
think
the
city
has
to
answer.
F
I
know
during
the
grand
opening
I
hope
we
may
have
to
have
a
traffic
cop
or
something
we're
not
going
to
open.
At
the
same
time,
we
never
do
Starbucks
and
us
will
not
open
on
the
same
day.
I
think
that's.
When
you'll
have
that
happens
everywhere
we
go
and
then
it
dies
down
to
normal
normal
business.
I
mean
it.
Just
is
that's
just
what
happens
it's
nature
when
I,
when
I
built
this
Chipotle
I
was
hearing
the
day
it
opened
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
were
around.
F
The
kids
were
stacked
up
around
the
block
around
the
all
the
way
around
and
all
the
way
around
the
block.
It
happened
once
I
tell
you
that
in
a
day,
but
it
was
me
and
three
other
people
in
there
I
mean
you
know
so
that
can
happen
at
that
particular
moment
and
I.
Think
we
can
mitigate
that
by
having
some
maybe
hiring
someone
to
help
police-wise
or
something
for
that
first
week,
I
just
don't
see
it
being
a
long
term
and
and
frankly
to.
F
You
I
know
the
sales
volumes
I
know
how
much
sales
we
do
in
these
different
areas
and
I
mean
in
Athens.
We
want
to
be
here.
We
want
that.
We
want
you,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
I,
didn't
say
it
with
the
density
of
people.
That
would
be
the
same
in
some
higher
density
areas,
so
it
probably
is
not
going
to
have
as
much
traffic
because
of
that
as
well
I
mean
you're,
a
smaller
town
I'm
from
a
small
town.
F
You
know
so
anyhow,
all
that
weighs
in
the
way
how
we
evaluate
it
at
Chipotle
and
how
we
laid
it
out,
how
we
did
it,
how
we
thought
of
the
parking
situation,
everything
else,
what
we
estimated
our
sales
volumes
would
be
too
and
would
so
base
it
on
I'm
making
a
profit
with
me.
It
is
a
dirty
work.
We
have
to
make
a
profit
of
all.
After
all,
these
expenses.
A
So
a
question
I
do
have
I
guess
now
that
just
thinking
about
the
Uptown
and
and
I
was
deeply
involved
as
a
council
member
back
in
those
days
when
it
transitioned
from
the
theater,
Taco,
Bell
and
actually
Taco
Bell,
even
predated
by
being
here
in
Athens,
but
certainly
when
it
went
from
Taco
Bell
to
Chipotle
it
has
a
liquor.
Permit
is.
Is
that
something
that
you're
considering
for
this
site
too,
to
where.
F
They
they
apply
usually
for
a
liquor
permit.
It
is
not
mandatory,
they
get
it
right
and
their
sales
volume
on
that
is
so
small.
It's
more
of
a
convenience
item
for
someone
next
to
a
movie
theater
or
an
Entertainment,
District
I.
Don't
think
I've
been
in
a
Chipotle
in
a
long
time
and
saw
anybody
grab
a
beer.
A
F
Yeah,
no,
we
don't
really
want
to
promote
that.
Okay,
we
did
it
for
that
Family
Guy
to
say:
hey
could
I
have
a
beer
when
I
went
to
the
movie
Next
Door,
you
go
to
Columbus,
there's
one
in
Worthington
at
Cross,
Woods
and
there's
some
others,
but
it's
not
a
big
thing
and
if
we
didn't
have
it,
if
somebody's
going
to
make
that
a
thing,
it's
not.
A
B
I
I
will
I
I
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
everything
you
folks
have
done.
I
I
still
remain
concerned
about
slippage
on
the
site.
I
know
you're
investing
a
lot
of
money
in
a
retaining
wall,
I'm
less
uncomfortable
with
that.
Knowing
that
the
city
will
have
an
engineer
there
on
site,
basically
full-time
laws
going
in
to
try
to
protect
the
adjacent
properties,
I
I'm,
I'm
still
uncomfortable
with
not
having
three
lanes
two
two
out
one
end
I'd
rather
take
the
I'd
rather
see
you
take
the
tie
into
that.
H
My
name
is
Barbara
Stout
and
I
live
at
954
East,
State
Street,
and
that
is
the
property
directly
behind
this
proposed
development
and
I.
Think
I've
got
concerns
about
slippage
and
drainage,
but
I'm
not
an
engineer.
So
if
you
guys
think
you've
addressed
it,
I'm
willing
to
go
with
that
and
as
far
as
property
I've
always
been
willing
to
do
some
maintenance
on
that
driveway.
H
But
good
luck
trying
to
get
the
owner
of
the
apartment,
building,
who
won't
even
return,
calls
and
I
won't
be
the
only
one
to
do
it,
but
every
maintenance
has
been
done
on
that
driveway
up
until
now,
I
have
done
by
hand.
I
have
dug
those
drains.
I
have
filled
in
those
holes,
but
you're
you
guys
are
missing
the
elephant
in
the
room
about
the
traffic
problem.
H
H
H
That's
way
down
below
anything
that
is
mine,
but
here's.
The
thing
and
I've
I've
been
paying
really
close
attention
to
traffic
patterns
for
the
last
three
months
on
State
Street,
so
I'm
coming
home
and
I'm
coming
from
in
town,
so
I
get
into
the
lane
and
I
need
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
into
my
driveway
right.
H
H
Also
in
front
of
that
apartment
house,
you've
got
perpendicular
parking,
and
this
happened
to
me
just
the
other
day.
I
turn
in
and
just
at
that
moment
someone
who's
parked
in
front
so
I'm.
Turning
in
this
way
and
someone
who's
parked
here
is
trying
to
get
out
in
order
to
get
out,
they
have
to
back
all
the
way
up
and
right
now,
they're
backing
all
the
way
up
into
their
property.
H
H
H
Leave
my
house
and
go
into
my
house
when
I
need
to,
and
frankly
mostly
when
I'm
going
out,
is
when
oh
seven,
eight
nine
in
the
morning
when
it's
going
to
be
blocked
by
Starbucks
and
that's
when
all
of
the
people
who
live
in
the
apartment,
houses
are
going
to
be
trying
to
go
out
and
you've
got
people
going
in
and
out
of
Starbucks.
In
the
same
time,
in
an
18
foot,
it's
only
18
feet:
I
paced
it
off.
H
It's
not
wide
enough
and
you're
going
to
end
up
with
accidents
and
you're,
going
to
end
up
with
a
big
backup
on
State
Street.
Because
of
this
I
appreciate
these.
These
people
are
lovely,
I've,
not
had
bad,
you
know,
and
and
for
the
record,
if
the
other
people
would
go
along
with
it,
I
would
go
along
with
fixing
that
driveway,
but
I
can't
do
it
myself
and
it's
not.
H
But
the
driveway
is
really
eroded
and
it's
because
of
water
runoff,
because
I've
I've
gone
in
with
concrete
and
fixed
it
and
it
cracks.
So
there's
there's
a
significant
issue
with
the
water
I
think.
If
you
put
a
drain
all
the
way
down
the
side
of
the
drive,
that'll,
probably
do
it
and
we'll
keep
it
off
the
drive
and
then
once
it's
repaired.
H
Hopefully
that
repair
would
last
for
a
good
long
time
right
now.
It
doesn't
because
the
water
pours
down
the
driveway
so
like
I,
said
I'm
still
concerned
about
slippage
plastic,
soil,
but
I
freely
admit
I'm,
not
an
engineer
and
I've
been
assured
and
I've
been
told,
there's
insurance
for
my
property.
There
is
historical.
There
is
a
history
of
that
property,
my
property
slipping
and
the
last
time
it
did
it,
which
was
way
before
I
I
owned
it,
but
I
know
from
the
previous
owner.
H
It
dropped
my
whole
driveway
six
inches
and
tore
out
my
gas
lines
and
my
water
lines
well
theirs
because
it
wasn't
my
property
at
the
time
and
the
entire
gas
and
water
lines
had
to
be
replaced
because
of
the
slippage
of
the
property.
But
if
I'm
insured
and
an
engineer
says
it's
okay,
I'll
believe
that,
but
I
just
don't
believe
that
this
isn't
going
to
be
a
problem
with
the
traffic.
J
Just
just
a
couple
quick
comments:
the
existing
entrance,
if
you
introduce
yourself,
okay,
Mark
Welch,
with
Pickering
Associates
engineering
firm,
the
the
driveway
entrance
to
the
West
as
part
of
these
plans,
will
be
widened.
Approximately
six
in
six
feet
down
along
East
State
Street
that'll
widen
that
total
entrance
to
approximately
25
to
26
feet.
Width
at
the
narrowest
point
it'll
be
wider
than
that.
As
you
go
back
towards
Starbucks,
so
that'll
allow
for
passage
of
two
vehicles
quite
easily
the
drainage.
J
We
are
planning
to
construct
a
drainage,
Swale
or
a
ditch
along
that
access
road
that
she
just
mentioned
that
will
collect
water
and
direct
it
down
to
a
catch
Basin.
That
then
goes
down
into
a
catch
Basin
next
to
East,
State
Street.
So
that
will
collect
a
lot
of
that
water
runoff
that
she
is
mentioning
and
then,
if
you
add
in
the
Trend
strain
that
is
proposed,
that
would
add
even
more
water
that
would
be
captured
by
the
construction
of
this.
J
J
H
Again,
I'm
not
an
engineer
but
I,
understand
water
and
right
now,
all
that
land
is
open
and
it
acts
sort
of
like
the
Everglades.
It's
absorbing
a
lot
of
that
water
when
you
start
Paving
it
over
it's
going
to
push
more
water
under
that
driveway
or
some
somewhere,
the
water's
got
to
go
somewhere
right
now,
it's
just
a
soggy
Marsh.
If
you
walk
out
into
that
right
now,
you
know
you'll
sink
up
to
your
ankles
in
mud.
C
Do
have
a
couple
more
notes
and
I
guess
for
internal
discussion
among
the
commission.
Here
you
know
I
I
wasn't
totally
aware
when
I
you
know
looked
at
the
the
materials
in
advance
about
this
provision
here
on
the
the
left
side
of
the
the
image
that
says:
surface
mounted
reboundable
traffic
delineators
that
that
do
require
all
traffic
to
go
to
the
to
the
West
coming
out
of
Starbucks
at
drive
through.
Basically
it
it
almost
guarantees
that
that
use
of
that
drive
through
is.
Is
that
way
and
John?
C
C
G
F
C
Water
problem
and
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
get
a
response
if
we
were
to
accept
this
in
this
configuration
with
what
you've
proposed,
but
not
include
those
delineators
that
you've
proposed
to
send
all
the
Starbucks
traffic
to
the
west
through
the
that
Western
entrance,
but
then
later
determine
we
run
into
problems
in
front
of
the
primary
driveway
with
queuing.
Would
you
be
willing
to
come
back
and
install
those
delineators
and
that
and
that
exit
the
way
that
you've
proposed?
Is
that?
C
Is
that
something
that
we
can
get
some
sort
of
commitment
short
of
a
bond?
That
says
you
know
we
would
be
willing
to
come
back
and
install
those,
because
I
think
that
that
you
know
there
is
a
valid
concern
that
Ms
Stout
brings
up
related
to
the
Starbucks
traffic
in
that
that
driveway?
That
is
really
problematic.
At
the
same
time,
the
city
has
the
concern
about
queuing
in
front
of
the
main
driveway
and
creating
a
traffic
safety
problem
due
to
queuing
in
front
of
that
main
driveway
only
be
able
to
be
able.
B
G
B
C
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
I
don't
mean
to
I'm.
You
know
pose
the
question
here,
but
to
answer
your
question,
what
is
proposed
in
this
drawing?
Is
these
reboundable
delineators
sure
so
so
it
you
know,
we
basically
have
conflicting
problems.
We've
got
the
problem
of
concern
about
a
drive
that
is
really
probably
not
sufficient,
given
its
its
maintenance
status
for
the
both
the
residents
that
that
live
behind
and
again
they
have
a
responsibility
to
maintain
it,
but
they
won't
and
all
of
the
Starbucks
traffic.
C
Meanwhile,
we
also
have
this
competing
concern
that
we
were
concerned
about
cueing
in
front
of
that
main
driveway,
that
that
causes
traffic
to
back
on
East,
State
Street,
and
so
that's
my
question.
Would
you
be
willing
to
come
back
and
install
those
delineators
later
if
we
had
a
queuing
problem,
but
not
do
it
initially
specifically,
so
we
can
see
how
things
balance
once
things
go.
Yes,
we.
A
Okay,
yeah
and
I
think
that's.
That
makes
sense,
because
we
need
to
be
able
to
watch
this.
You
know
you
know
we're
going
to
go
to
a
roll
call
vote
because
I'm
just
hearing
some
different
things
at
the
dice,
but
before
we
do,
one
of
the
things
I
find
is
is
extremely
important
and
that
being
regardless
of
previous
administrations
for
the
city
of
Athens,
the
current
Administration
has
been
very
Economic
Development
forward
and
knowing
what
we
need
to
do.
A
As
a
community
I've
heard
some
Rumblings
out
there
about
some
level
of
unfriendliness
I
feel
strongly
compelled
to
sit
and
say
that
that
has
not
been
the
case,
at
least
over
the
past
seven
or
eight
years
here
in
the
city
of
Athens,
to
where
we
are
seeing
development.
You
know
we
do
have
a
Menards.
The
Menards
has
outlots
that
we're
hopeful
someday
someone
comes
along
and
and
puts
something
there.
I'm
constantly
out
there
shopping
to
encourage
developers
to
come
into
the
City
and
develop
responsibly.
A
We've
got
a
new
freestanding
emergency
room
Hospital,
which
is
going
to
employ
130
160
employees
with
an
average
salary
of
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars.
A
year
you
know
and
I
I
believe
that
that
is
the
right
move
and
and
constantly
looking
at
ways
in
which
the
city's
infrastructure
can
be
improved
to
accommodate
future
development,
new
development,
and
so,
whatever
the
decision
of
this
board,
you
know
again.
I
I've
got
to
get
that
out
there,
because
that
is
fact
for
the
city
of
Athens.
A
So
you
know
I
I
personally
again
have
heard
the
contrary,
especially
when
I
became
mayor
and
as
a
city
council
member
before
that.
But
you
know
I
think
the
track
record
over
the
past
14
or
past
eight
years
has
has
shown
that
that
we
are
interested
in
seeing
development
here
in
the
city
about
this,
and
in
particular
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
reality
is
is
that
East
State
Street,
basically
from
33
all
the
way
out
to
the
Corp
limits.
A
A
I
I
If
there
is
too
much
traffic,
people
aren't
going
to
visit
these
sites
and
there
are
a
lot
of
options
on
State
Street.
So
I
would
have
to
believe
that
if
that
became
a
deterrent
for
people
shopping,
there
would
be
a
third
lane
that
would
go
in
at
some
point
and
it
wouldn't
have
to
be
forced
from
the
city.
It
would
be
a
business
decision
based
off
of.
Why
are
we
having
lower
volumes
than
we
were
expecting?
I
If
you
go
there
and
you
have
to
wait
15
minutes
to
turn
in
or
15
minutes
to
turn
out
you're
not
going
to
go
there
and
so
I?
Guess
that's
why
I'm
So
Pro
this,
because
the
business
isn't
viable.
If
people
are
going
to
have
to
wait
in
line
I
agree
with
you,
Tim
Hortons
has
the
longest
lines
ever
and
it's
slow
service
would
be
one
of
them.
They
don't
turn
people
very
fast,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
turned
away
because
of
how
long
they
have
to
wait
there.
I
So
I
just
from
a
natural
business
perspective.
I
would
assume
that
you
wouldn't
have
to
force
anything
that
if
this
doesn't
work
and
people
are
having
to
wait
too
long
or
can't
get
into
the
site,
there's
going
to
be
an
additional
investment
that
would
have
that
would
have
to
happen.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment
that
that's
why
I
guess,
without
knowing
the
traffic
studies
and
the
everything
else,
it's
just
from
a
business
perspective
it.
I
C
Sir
I
would
I
would
propose
a
motion
that
that
this
commission
approves
this.
This
redesign
with
the
understanding
that
we
would
leave
off
those
delineators
and
that
exit
and
that
no
left
turn
sign
on
the
right,
but
that
the
developer
has
committed
in
this
forum.
If
we
run
into
a
problem
with
queuing
at
the
main
entrance
later
to
coming
back
in
and
installing
some
device
in
that
location
to
to
to,
as
as
proposed
by
this
plan,.
I
A
E
A
E
E
C
Mean
it's
remember,
stamp
is
a
strong
term
sure,
but
you
know
obviously
I'm
the
one
that
grants
and
I
just
voted.
Yes
for
your
okay,
so
you
know
short
of
you
coming
to
me
with
a
permit
that
showed
something
completely
different
than
what
you
have
with
this
drawing
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
We're
going
to
approve
it.
A
Okay,
I
I
recognize
that
it's
been
a
long
process
for
you
and
I,
but
I,
as
you
heard
from
my
colleagues
on
the
commission.
It's
also
an
extremely
extremely
challenging
site
and
I
think
that's
what
has
lent
a
lot
to
the
course
that
you
guys
have
had
to
navigate
in
order
to
get
to
this
point.
So
it's
passed
Communications.
We
don't
have
any
Communications
unless
any
Commissioners
have
anything
that
they
okay
and
we
don't
have
anything
from
director
rigs.
A
A
Seeing
head
shakes,
I
know
the
audience
can't
hear
that
so
nothing
from
the
audience
announcements
in
other
business.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
May
18th
here
in
council
chambers
at
12
p.m.
At
this
point,
unless
we
don't
have
any
cases
or
Communications
at
that
point
in
time
at
which
we
will
make
sure
that
we
get
the
word
out
that
we
wouldn't,
if
we
don't
have
anything
to
discuss,
I
would
like
to
get
an
emotion
to
adjourn
motion.