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A
B
B
C
B
Yes,
indeed,
sugar
maple
at
95,
Central
and
2nd
Street,
and
noted
in
her
assessment
that
this
is
a
mature
tree
that
we've
been
monitoring
exhibits.
Some
decline
includes
two
hollows.
Similar
branch
died
back
some
depressed
bark
on
the
trunk
and
that
the
die
back
coincides
with
the
branches
that
were
pruned
by
the
property
owner
last
time,
the
Commission
granted
of
permit-
and
at
that
time
the
branches
that
were
overhanging,
the
house
were
pruned,
but
long
stubs
were
left
and
the
stubs
have
now
died.
D
It
is,
you
know,
those
dead
branches
that
are
actually
quite
you
know,
they're
they're,
not
that
big
they
should
be
removed.
They
should
be
pruned
back
shed
over
time.
Yes,
but
the
branches
that
weren't
cut.
You
know
there's
lots
of
good
stuff
along
Gatien,
it's
otherwise.
You
know
the
trees
hanging
on
and.
C
B
D
D
D
B
D
A
D
D
C
B
This
will
probably
take
a
while
I
would
imagine
we
will
accumulate
about
half
a
dozen
or
so
jobs,
and
that
way
we
get
a
better
deal
from
a
tree
service.
This
is
not
something
that
the
city
can
address
itself.
We
don't
have
the
equipment,
so
this
will
be
a
job
that
will
wait
until
we
have
enough
jobs
to
make
it
worthwhile
to
do.
B
B
And
at
the
Southside
park,
Ron
Lucas,
the
city's
arborist
noted
that
the
I
sent
an
email
to
the
tree
Commission
that
the
city
recreation
department
has
some
concerns
about
three
trees
that
are
on
the
miniature
golf
course
at
that
Park.
This
is
not
something
Steve,
you
don't
know
whether
this
is
happening
in
the
near
future.
B
Their
concern
is
the
white
pine
tends
to
draw
up
a
lot
of
needles
and
SAP
that
damages
the
course
world.
Maples
drop
leaves
and
seedpods
Iran
has
looked
at
the
trees
and
deems
them
to
be
healthy.
It
is
understood
by
arts
parks
and
recreational
trees
must
be
replaced
at
other
planting
sites
in
the
park
so
and
I've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
these
trees.
D
B
D
Sound
I
think
it's
reasonable
to
maybe
speculate
that
the
trees
were
probably
planted
as
part
of
the
structure
they're,
the
recreation
area-
you
know,
I
I,
just
felt
I
I-
think
it
sets
a
bad
precedent
to
remove
healthy
trees.
I
in
my
email,
I
wrote.
You
know
that
Alvey
and
I
spend
half
our
daylight
hours,
communicating
with
property
owners
who
understand
the
value
of
community
forestry,
but
really
are
sick
of
cleaning
up
the
leaves
and
the
pods
from
the
tree
in
their
front
yard
boy.
D
A
A
B
D
E
D
A
B
B
D
Just
for
the
record,
you
know
if
there's
one
thing:
we've
learned
in
urban
forestry
that
a
tree
that
you've
got
growing
and
surviving
and
thriving
is
way
more
valuable
than
any
stick
that
you
can
plant
in
the
ground
and
nurse
and
love
and
water.
And
you
know
such
high
mortality
of
those
new
young
trees,
I
just.
C
D
D
B
F
F
14
grand
allowed
just
offer
perspective
on
second
street,
just
because
I
was
at
a
get-together
of
a
Rotarian
this
morning
and
the
second
street
I'm
at
2nd
Street.
The
Southside
park
miniature
golf
park
is
a
is
the
site
of
a
of
an
improvement
project,
that's
in
the
process
of
being
formulated
and
will
be
implemented
with
various
inputs,
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
imagined
that
someone
was
thinking
that
these
particular
trees
at
the
Southside
apartment
might
be
a
bother
way.
Perhaps
they
were
there,
you
know
their
expanse
of
their
crown
might
have
enlarged.
F
B
You
very
much
thank
you.
Greg
yeah,
it's
a
really
a
sweet
Park,
its
first
time,
I
had
a
chance
to
walk
around
there.
That's
a
little
jewels
of
Athens
on
the
next
section
of
the
agenda
is
landscape,
ordinance
issues,
and
the
first
item
is
176
Millstreet,
where
there
is
a
really
interesting
project
going
on
there's
a
four
unit
apartment
building
with
under
the
building
parking,
and
then
it's
a
very
heavily
constructed
area.
Already
there
is
more
parking
being
put
in
Steve.
G
I
could
just
give
a
little
background.
Okay,
please,
and
the
reason
this
is
being
considered
by
the
tree
Commission.
What
first
had
been
under
the
landscape
regulations,
but
in
particular
this
review
is
part
of
a
title:
41
site
plan
review
the
first
title,
41
section
and
review
and
so
requires
the
ordinance
requires
input
from
boards
and
commissions
prior
to
the
action
of
taking
place
by
the
plan
in
rushing
on
for
the
overall
project.
G
Commission
today
so
yet
staff
meeting
when
I
spoke
to
that
Wednesday
morning,
the
mayor's
staff
meeting
he
won
and
he
recommended
and
asked
that
I
send
it
around
to
all
the
boards
and
commissions
anybody
who
might
be
interested
because
it's
just
in
a
draft
stage
right
now-
and
this
will
be
a
guidance,
tour
development
guidance
tool
very
specific
about
things
that
need
to
be
checked
off
approved
not
approved,
commented
on.
So
my
anticipation
is
that
this
will
be.
You
know
a
very
important
working
document
for
a
lot
of
the
development
projects
intended.
B
Did
everybody
on
the
Commission
get
a
chance
to
look
at
their
plans?
We
had
a
small.
We
have
a
meeting
at
one
point
to
review
this,
and
it
is
see
we
don't
really
have
any
video
way
of
showing
this
to
people
watching
but
give
a
shot.
This
is
a
gentleman
on
camera
can
shoot
this.
There
is
a
building
like
so
that's
doing
pretty
well
yeah,
and
this
is
at
176,
Mills
Street.
B
And
the
there
are
four
units
in
this
apartment
building,
which
means
that
there
need
to
be
for
trees,
shade
trees
planted
the
site
does
not
really
offer
very
much
in
the
way
of
space.
But
there
is
a
deep
right-of-way
out
in
front
at
176,
Milla,
Street
and
Carolyn
Thomasson's
you're,
also
the
property
owner
of
the
property
next
door.
174.
B
Is
that
not
right
and
where
there
is
yet
another
tree,
lon
deep
right
of
way
that
might
accommodate
shade
trees
and
so
we're
taking
advantage
of
that,
and
that
involves
the
tree
permit
part,
which
is
that
we
included
and
there's
a
memo.
That's
been
sent
to
Steve,
Pierson
and
I
hope
shared
with
you
Carolyn,
very
good.
B
We're
recommending
that
Pender's
for
departments
Carolyn
Thomason
be
permitted
to
plant
in
the
city,
right-of-way,
basically
for
trees,
shade
trees
and
were
following
the
landscape
design
that
was
submitted
by
Stan
Michener
for
Carolyn
Thomason
turns
out
that
there's
a
high
voltage
cable
at
the
site
that
cuts
across
the
it
comes
from.
Basically,
the
Knights
of
Columbus
side
of
the
road,
Mill
Street
and
crosses
over
and
heads
toward
over
here
is
the
mr.
Ronis.
Yes,
sterling
technology,
so
we
can't
really
put
terribly
tall
shade
trees
in
there
and
the
ones
that
stand
the
vintner
had
suggested.
B
The
red
maples
probably
are
a
good
suggestion
and
there
could
be
one
to
two
more
shade
trees
in
the
174
Mill
Street
tree
lon.
If
there
is
no
space
there,
there
was
a
suggestion
that
there
be
a
shade
tree
at
the
back
of
the
building
and
a
site
that
sell
a
walkway
site.
This
could
be
a
columnar
orifice,
digit
oak
and
there'd
be
a
lookout
if
you're
in
this
tree
line
at
174
to
red
maples
here,
and
that
was
basically
the
recommendation
to
get
that
number
of
for
shade
trees.
B
There
is
an
existing
large
tree,
that's
being
removed,
which
we're
very
sad
about
part
of
it
is
in
City
right
away,
but
part
of
it's
also
on
public,
not
public,
but
private
property.
The
alley,
basically,
which
is
a
private
alley
and
we
would
like
to
have
a
compensating
replacement
shade
tree,
put
some
place
in
another
right-of-way
conceivably,
so
that
would
make
it
five
shade,
trees
and
then
the
and
then
the
landscaping
that
mr.
Bittner
had
already
proposed
for
and
report
apartments.
So
I
have.
Are
there
any
questions
about
this?
What
about
do
you.
B
The
plan
also
showed
some
existing
ginkgo
trees
and
exit.
Let's
see,
there's
at
least
three
existing
trees
there
and
maybe
a
fourth
one.
That's
very
small
they're
all
going
to
have
to
be
moved
for
the
construction
project
and
I
I.
Think
our
assessment
was
that
they
might
not
survive
transplanting
and
it
would
be
nice
to
try
just
to.
H
H
B
A
It's
a
terrific
tree
and
it
when
it's
when
you
try
moving,
it
will
be
key.
If
you
do
it,
when
it's
dormant,
it
will
be
much
more
likely
to
survive
right,
so
the
if,
if
it
could
be
moved
now,
Atlantic,
you
know
someplace
and
then
someplace
safe.
That
won't
be
subject
to
compression
from
heavy
equipment
that
that
would
really
be
a
pretty
good
plan.
Wouldn't
it,
but
you'd
have
to
move
pretty
soon,
because,
with
all
this
warm
weather,
dormancy
may
break.
A
B
Speeding
tree
I'm
sure,
there's
also
some
there
had
been
on
the
plans
some
Hawthorne
suggested.
We
ask
that
the
Hawthorns
that
you
use
be
from
varieties
on
our
recommended
street
tree
list,
because
they're
tougher
they're,
just
that's-
why
we
put
them
on
that
list
and
that
all
trees
are
that
are
planted
are
to
be
a
minimum
of
two
inches
in
diameter
at
breast
height,
and
that
is
a
concern
that
gets
the
the
tree.
H
B
E
B
B
Okay,
the
landmark
the
next
one
we
have
is
a
landmark
site
which
is
thought
to
have
been
labeled
more
properly.
The
Palmer
place
right
yeah,
my
apologies
for
the
label
and
now
we're
going
to
challenge
the
microphones
and
this
viewing
area
there.
B
B
See
this
is
palmar
places
off
Stimpson
Avenue
and
it
has
its
where
the
old
Bob
supermarket
presently
still
is.
That
will
be
a
parking
lot
where
Bob
supermarket
is
there's
Curt's
Avenue
that
comes
in
behind
it.
The
senior
citizen
residents
at
this
point
on
the
this
would
be
the
south
west
corner,
and
then
here
is.
B
B
Yeah
so
there's
a
series
of
trees
here
along
turn,
trees
in
the
parking
lot,
and
these
are
shade
trees
by
what
is
downards
ambassador
laundry.
There
was
some
question
about
why
shrubs
at
this
point,
when
there's
probably
a
possibility
of
shade
trees
here,
this
site
has
a
complication
of
having
80%
of
the
perimeter
with
high-voltage
power
lines
just
amazing.
They
come
like
this
everywhere.
So
there
are
some
sites
where
truly
tall
trees,
won't
work
and
say:
question
is
at
this
point:
could
there
be
more
tall
trees
here?
B
C
B
C
G
B
B
C
E
B
This
is
going
to
be
hard
to
do
in
this
meeting
in
this
format,
and
so
I
think
we
probably
need
to
just
have
a
meet
again
and
look
at
this.
The
placement
of
things
is
good
in
the
inside
the
parking
lot
for
shade,
but
it's
some
question
about
why
there
aren't
large,
shade
trees
in
a
couple
of
locations.
B
B
And
native
would
be
nice.
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
wait
about
a
week
and
give
them
perhaps
with
this
a
provisional
approval,
but
with
some
serious
changes
in
maybe
three
sites
within
the
courtyard,
where
there
might
be
linden
trees
on
these
two
edges,
where
there
might
be
shade,
trees
here
and
shade
trees
here,
so
we've
got
three
questions.
Basically,.
G
I
G
B
A
G
C
G
B
G
B
G
So
you
know
I
mentioned
that
I
had
these
plans
and
they
were
gonna,
be
reviewed.
Tonight.
I
mentioned
that
staff
meeting
Wednesday
morning
and
I
asked
Nick
Carr
the
Utilities
Director
to
also
come
to
mind
or
to
look
at
the
plans
to
make
sure
they,
the
plantings,
didn't,
interfere
in
any
way
with
any
buried
utilities.
In
the
area
like
if
you
recall,
with
the
McDonald's
plans,
Nick
had
some
concern
about
the
plantings
and
so
I've
tried
to
get
the
water
sewer
department
involved
in
this
awesome.
Yeah.
B
B
G
To
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals,
however,
just
like
176
ml
had
to
for
some
setback,
variances
how
miss
MacWilliams
attended
that
meeting,
because
the
site
is
so
cramped
and
so
tight.
It's
a
1
billion.
It's
already
been
demolished.
You
won't
draw
on
plumbing
building,
there's
a
house
down
there.
That
will
also
be
demolished
to
accommodate
some
more
parking.
G
The
building
itself
basically
is
built
lot.
Lined
a
lot
line.
Lot,
aligned
a
lot
line
to
a
lot
line
to
Street.
There's
some
parking,
then
across
the
street,
and
the
only
remaining
area
to
do
any
kind
of
planning
at
all
is
adjacent
to
the
parking
area
which
is
on
the
north
side
of
fern
Street,
and
the
plan
is
really
very
simple.
I
think
it
just
indicates
a
series.
B
B
B
And
Bonner
and
I
visited
this
site
just
yesterday,
and
this
is
a
and
description
is
absolutely
boss.
Right
on
it's
a
tight
site
challenging
for
young
trees,
the
soil
will
be
inhospitable
for
young
trees,
four
trees.
She
recommends
soil
amendments,
be
added
to
include
compost
and
mulch,
and
perhaps
tree
protecting
landscape
stones
holders.
C
B
Is
to
say
this
is
a
high
traffic
site.
The
young
man
who
was
contractor
said
that
he
was
sitting
in
his
truck.
There
were
people
walking
around
the
truck
and
moving.
You
know.
The
traffic
patterns
for
pedestrians
is
just
amazing
there,
so
the
trees
are
going
to
be
in
the
path
of
all
that
to
increase
the
likelihood
of
trees,
surviving
and
ultimately
thriving
to
become
an
asset
to
the
property.
B
B
Columnar
ginkgos
might
also
be
a
good
long-term
choice.
Upright
European
hornbeam
might
be
another
choice,
though.
All
of
this
tree
only
gets
15
to
25
feet
in
height
and
there
are
power
lines
at
one
point,
so
that
might
be
a
consideration
and
recommends
clustering,
the
trees
to
fit
the
traffic
pattern,
to
promote
the
survivability
of
trees
over
time
and
the
she
encourages.
The
architect
contractors
to
consider
clustering,
trees
staking
and
adding
soil
amendments
as
necessary
to
give
the
trees
a
chance.
B
B
I
D
Close
one
of
my
favorite
slides
of
all
time
is
of
this
parking
lot,
California,
where
they're
calorie
pairs
literally
3
feet
apart
in
a
triangle,
and
they
were
the
it
was
the
best
shade
because
the
three
of
them
actually
they
were
surviving.
You
know
they're
protecting
each
other
and
they
were
working,
and
so
you
know
it's
I.
You
know
why.
I
D
D
I
D
B
Though
this
is
a
dismal
site
and
has
been
for
a
very
long
time,
it
should
be
no,
except
for
the
Klein
Penney
operation
right
here,
which
has
a
beautiful
little
house
and
a
wonderful
landscaping
in
front
yeah,
and
that
the
one
spruce
tree
should
be
protected
and
given
consideration
of
placement
of
these
other
trees.
That
was.
I
E
B
G
Original
everything
that's
right
away
is
pavement,
okay
and
actually
a
portion.
This
property
that
you
cut
across
to
get
over
to
State
Street,
if
you're,
coming
down
from
the
port
Street,
is
actually
on
private
property.
They
own
the
street.
The
developer
owns
the
street
okay,
I
suppose
in
legal
jargon,
its
easement
of
necessity
that
the
city
has
to
maintain
the
street
through
there.
Yes,.
G
A
plaited
Street
for
some
reason:
fern
was
plaited
off
court
Street
and
stopped
and
then
plaited
a
short
distance
off
State
Street
with
an
inner
intervening
section.
It
was
never
part
of
a
subdivision,
but
everybody
just
started
cutting
across
and
it
turned
into
fern
alleys.
What
people
call
it
it's
fern
Street!
G
B
G
B
C
B
J
B
G
It's
a
combined
project
by
the
owners
of
two
properties,
they're
university,
rentals
and
hunter
rentals.
There's
limited
parking
there
right
now,
I'm,
actually
non-compliant
grandfathered
parking
they'd
like
to
install
some
additional
parking.
It's
an
art,
it's
an
hour
to
zone,
so
the
parking
has
to
be
for
the
exclusive
use
of
the
residence
that
can't
be
leased.
You
can't
put
a
parking
lot
in
that
zone,
so
all
this
parking
will
go
toward
those
uses
that
are
existing
now
with
deficient
parking.
Okay,.
G
Normally
we
don't
people
get
people
voluntarily
at
breath
asking
to
retrofit
on
their
parking,
but
you
do
still
have
the
same.
We
talked
about
this
a
lot
competing
interest
for
a
parking
requirement
being
so
high
for
residential
the
use
of
existing
buildings,
if
possible,
the
reuse
of
buildings
sometimes,
but
then
you
also
have
to
have
room
for
no
other
things
that
contribute
to
quality
of
life
like
trees.
So
there's
you
have
these
competing
interests
going
on
the
car.
The
automobile
and
the
tree
in
Athens
seem
to
be
competing
for
space
right
now.
B
G
I'll
be
a
private
Ally
if
you'd
go
up
there
and
look
right
now,
there's
a
brick
alley
that
goes
down
through
there.
It's
private
somewhere
along
the
line.
You
know
it
was
traveled
by
vehicles
or
horses
or
whatever,
so
that
you
know
they're
using
an
existing
passage,
although
be
it
a
long
time
ago
that
people
use
it.
It's
just
a
driveway
now
essentially
for
the
University
of
Reynolds
property,
but
the
two
property
owners
are
gonna
share.
G
D
G
That's
all
right
when
the
city
reviews
development
plans
for
parking
lots,
there's
a
you
know,
there's
more
to
it
than
just
the
trees
again.
Those
planning
that
plans
that
there's
a
drawing
that
shows
the
drainage
that
they're
going
to
put
in
I
think
also,
maybe
with
that
no
I
kept
it
at
the
office.
I
have
a
soil
report
from
Athens
County,
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District,
it's
very
sandy
soil.
It's
not
slip
prone,
although
it
is
very
steep
all
the
storm
water
will
be
picked
up
with
trench
drains.
G
So,
instead
of
having
to
do
a
lot
of
complicated
grading
to
get
water
to
run
to
a
catch
basin,
they're
proposing
you
know
a
series
of
several
at
grade
catch
troughs
they
own
property,
additionally
down
the
hill
that
I
have
to
get
with
water
and
sewer
department
to
take
that
water
off
the
end
of
the
property
or
the
downhill
side
across
properties
that
face
Lancaster
Street
to
get
it
to
the
storm
sewer
over
in
Lancaster.
This.
G
All
be
no
it'll
all
be
contained
if
you
see
well,
if
you
got
a
steep
driveway
coming
out
of
it
say
an
apartment
project
and
there's
a
great
tip
catches,
water
and
then
puts
it
right
into
the
storm
sewer
before
it
comes
out
on
the
street.
That's
what
they're
proposing
so
it'll
all
go
into
a
pipe
okay.
G
D
G
Was
concerned
also
about
the
steepness,
that's
why
I
asked
the
developer
to
to
make
sure
to
check
with
Kevin
Lewis
it's
a
woman,
water
conservation,
Kevin
came
by
he'd
assessed
this
property
about
four
or
five
years
ago,
when
there
was
a
plan
brought
forth
at
that
time.
But
it
didn't
happen
and
now
they
want
to
bring
it
bring
the
plan
back.
So
he
had
drainage
and
slow
for
a
big
concern,
but
they
seem
to
be
able
to
be
overcome
with
you
yet
based.
B
B
In
previous
approach
to
that
project,
the
proposal
is
for
all
these
to
be
red
maples,
which
would
be
probably
the
least
likely
to
survive
the
site
because
there's
thin
bark-
and
this
is
an
area
that
has
a
lot
of
traffic,
a
lot
of
traffic
and
there
wasn't
even
a
parking
lot.
There
wasn't
when
the
developer.
G
Came
and
presented
the
plan
to
me.
Excuse
me,
he
said
I
had
to
actually
get
him
to
indicate
which
trees
were
the
new
trees
as
opposed
to
the
ones
that
existed,
and
he
said
well
what
trees,
with
the
tree,
Commission
like
me
to
plant
yes
well,
I'm,
not
really
sure,
but
then
I
did
give
him
the
list
of
recommended
trees
and
he
just
selected
one
well.
D
B
D
D
So
you
know
big
multi
rings
and-
and
maybe
this
would
be
a
site
where
maybe
the
tree
should
be
staked.
You
know,
and
it's
just
again
to
protect
the
developers
investment
in,
but
it
yeah
I'd
say
it's.
It's
gonna
be
one
of
those.
It's
gonna
be
like
those
other
projects.
We
worked
on
down
on
Mill
and
Stewart,
Street
that
when
they're
on
private
land,
it's
really
hard
to
for
those
trees
to
survive.
B
G
G
B
C
B
B
B
B
See
and
then
Anita
Frederic
who's
working
on
the
website,
information
for
us
with
Ron
Forrest,
who
would
be
putting
this
up,
says
that
content
for
the
first
three
pages
of
the
website
are
ready
to
give
to
Ron
Forrest
as
soon
as
they
are
approved
by
the
mayor's
office
and
Nita
was
going
to
review
the
material
too,
just
to
make
sure
that
nothing
has
changed
time.
Since
it's
been
submitted
time,
sensitive
things
and
Ron
Forrest
will
be
the
person
to
whom
all
updates
are
given
in.
He
will
enter
them.
B
A
G
That's
why,
in
a
little
bit
of
information
I
gave
you
was
a
news
article
related
to
my
appearance
before
City
Council
last
year
code
officers,
one
complaint
went
out
into
one
particular
neighborhood
to
have
quite
a
few
things:
cleaned
up,
including
vegetable
matter,
flowers,
tomato
vines,
things
like
that,
and
a
petition
was
presented
to
Council
to
wanting
to
know
why
the
code
of
had
told
someone
to
cut
down
their
tomato
plants
in
the
front
yard,
and
we
have
not
done
that.
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
rumor
got
started,
but
it
ended
up.
G
So
that's
we
were
out
addressing
litter,
but
it
happened
to
be
vegetation
as
I
started.
Doing
a
little
research.
It
seems
that
the
city
of
Sacramento
California,
just
recently
went
through
this
exact
same
situation.
Code
officers
had
gone
out
to
investigate
some
complaints
in
the
neighborhood,
because
people
were
planting
vegetables
and
different
kinds
of
things
in
the
area
between
the
front
of
a
house
and
the
curb,
and
they
were
accused
of
the
same
thing
essentially
going
out
and
telling
people
you
can't
have
a
garden
in
your
front
yard.
G
Then
the
question
became
for
Sacramento
there
1941
ordinance
that
they
had,
which
did
allow
some
things,
but
not
to
cover
more
than
a
certain
area,
not
to
be
over
a
certain
height
were
reviewed,
and
some
of
the
argument
that
went
along
with
it
was
the
amount
of
energy
that
it
takes
in
terms
of
producing
water
to
water
grass.
You
know
they
were
concerned
about
that
sustainability
in
terms
of
people
producing
their
own
vegetables,
scarred
flowers,
those
kinds
of
things
actually,
the
Athens
City
Code
does
allow
you
to
at
your
house.
G
You
can
grow
flowers,
for
example,
and
sell
in
the
farmer's
market.
That's
permitted,
so
Athens
has
had
a
lot
of
gardens
in
the
front
yard
depend
on
what
you
call
a
garden.
If
you
look
at
the
second
page,
what
I?
What
I
did
was
I
just
gave
you
a
copy,
the
Sacramento
ordinance,
for
example,
in
Section,
B,
landscape
maintenance
requirements.
It
says
that
the
landscaping
may
include
grass
annuals,
perennials
ground
cover
of
shrubs
and
trees,
but
no
junk
debris
or
other
material.
G
So
what
happened
in
Sacramento
was
they
they
didn't
limit
as
they
had
before
the
amount
of
your
front
yard
you
could
have
in
landscaping.
They
did,
though,
retain
the
4-foot
maximum
height
I'm.
Going
to
a
a
lot
of
the
discussion
was
about
to
line-of-sight
disability,
that
kind
of
thing,
and
then
you
know
the.
C
G
And
again,
right
now
in
the
aten
city
cook,
there's
nothing
that
prohibits
it,
but
it's
just
that
this
whole
thing
came
up
and
we
were
addressing
people
growing
vegetables
in
their
front
yard,
oftentimes,
also
on
the
right
away,
and
if
you
go
around
town,
you
can
see
people
that
have
there
growing
all
kinds
of
things
in
their
front
yards.
It
makes
happens.
Kind
of
neat
special
in
the
hillside
when
your
your
house
is
up.
You've
got
this
area
that
you
really
don't
want
to
have
to
mow.
What
do
you
do
with
that?
G
Eastes
tree
I
think
it's
a
great
example
on
the
high
side
of
what
people
have
done
in
that
front
setback
area
and
to
have
a
landscape
area
nobody's
ever
said
anything
about
it.
Up
until
now,
the
code
office
just
found
themselves
in
a
dilemma,
as
they
did
in
Sacramento
about
how
to
handle
the
debris
at
the
end
of
the
growing
season.
So
there
isn't
anything
in
this
regulation,
except
that
it
says.
G
I'm
sorry
I
underlined
a
bunch
of
things
can't
go
right
to
it.
What
really
wasn't
too
clear
in
here
to
me
and
I
think
if
Adams
does
adopt
some
kind
of
regulations
for
the
front
yard,
it
needs
to
be
a
good
description
of
when
you
have
to
clean
up
the
area
I'm
about
you
guys
in
my
backyard,
I
cleaned
it
up
a
little
bit
and
then
the
weather
changed
and
I'd
be
embarrassed
to
have
that
in
my
fresh
art,
I,
don't
mind
it
so
much
in
the
backyard
except
here
in
town.
G
People
went
to
do
this
in
the
front
yard.
Also,
most
people
are
very
good
about
cleaning
up
these
things.
I!
Don't
please
don't
get
me
wrong
on
that,
but
at
the
code
office
once
we
get
a
complaint,
we
have
to
address
it
and
once
we
get
in
a
neighborhood
and
see
the
next
one
and
then
that
person
comes
out
and
talks
to
you
and
they
complain
about
the
person
around
the
corner.
All
of
a
sudden.
This
thing
that
didn't
seem
like
a
big
problem,
turns
into
a
big
snowball.
G
G
G
G
D
Think
one
of
the
interesting
things
is
that
it's
really
hard
everybody
has
a
different
idea
of.
What's
beautiful
or
what's
acceptable
and
and
part
of
human
nature's
can
unfortunately
compare
complaining
about
your
neighbors
and
I
I.
Just
I
think
this
would
be
such
a
can
of
worms,
especially
in
a
town
where
gardening
is
I
mean
I
cannot
think
of
a
town
where
there
are
more
gardeners
and
more
knowledgeable.
People
about
gardening
and
I
think
it's
part
of
what
makes
Athens
so
beautiful
and
unique
and
fun
to
walk.
D
You
know:
I
love
walking
here,
especially
in
the
summer,
so
I
don't
know,
I
just
I
hate
to
see
it
kind
of
forced
into
some
sort
of
rigid
box.
You
know
where
you
did
I
remember
when
I
worked
the
city
of
Dublin
on
they
were
lying,
you
know
sight
line
and
there
was
the
4-foot
rule
and
people
still
you
know
you
did.
They
did
all
kinds
of
crazy
stuff.
You
know
either
to
try
to
get
around
it
or
so
as
long
as
you're,
not
impacting
public
safety
by
creating
blind
spot.
D
C
A
C
A
G
I
B
G
Office
I
owe
to
my
officers
because
they're
the
ones
that
go
out
of
the
neighborhoods
and
take
the
heat
over
trying
to
get
people
to
clean
up
their
properties
and
they're.
Looking
at
all
aspects
of
what
is
you
know,
cleaned
up
enough,
we
got
into
a
huge
controversy,
I
mean
it
even
came
became
before
City
Council
as
a
petition
to
essentially
stop
the
Code
office
from
you
know:
Yankee,
not
everybody's
tomatoes,
which
we
weren't
doing,
but.
D
On
the
safety
issue,
I
mean
I,
guess
that
would
be
within
the
code,
at
least
the
code
that
I
read
that
you
know
just
the
sight
lines
so
that
people
can
turn
corners
and
get
out
of
driveways
I
mean
I,
it's
kind
of
like
trees.
You
know
we
just
try
to
focus
on
the
public
safety
issue,
because,
inevitably
you
know
there's
some
ugly
tree
that
somebody
hates
and
some
one
that
ever
somebody
else
loves.
D
G
J
G
Just
that
I'd
asked
I
was
I,
told
city
council
before
I
got
information
back
to
them.
I'd
solicit
input
from
the
tree,
Commission
mm-hmm,
and
if
your
input
would
be
that
guards
in
the
front
yard
not
be
regulated,
that's
fine,
but
it
still
leaves
the
coat
office
in
a
quandary
about
anything's
cleaned
up
like
Ian.
G
A
If
there's
a
lot
of
dead
like
Athene,
when
the
plants
become
dormant
or
the
annuals
die
back,
don't
then
that
becomes
a
flammable
material,
I
mean
even
more
so
so
that
kind
of
a
safety
hazard.
Isn't
it
if
they're?
If
people
have
it
particularly
like
right
up
their
house,
you
know
have
a
lot
of
stuff
in
their
yard.
That
should
have
been
cleaned
up.
I.
G
G
C
G
G
We
get
a
complaint
and
we
go
out
and
something
looks
like
a
weed
to
a
code
officer.
You
know
you
need
to
clean
this
up
and
then
you
do
get
then
sometimes
a
lecture
on
you
don't
know
what
weeds
are
and
it's
like
yeah,
but
I
got
this
complaint
and
I
need
to
deal
with
if
they're.
You
know
right
now,
there's
nothing
to
stop
people
from
growing
corn
in
their
front
yard
and
it
seems
to
be
a
trend.
G
B
B
B
D
I
notice
there's
one
garden:
that's
on
the
near
east
side,
I
care
of
which,
but
you
had
tons
of
a
stir,
isn't
it
beautiful
and
you?
But
you
know
they
look
really
ragged
by
the
end
of
it.
By
this
time
of
year
and
and
just
with
the
great
weather
that
we
had
just
over
the
weekend,
I
noticed
they
were
all
cleaned.
But
you
know
for
somebody
to
impressed
her
who
she
was
out
of
town
yeah.
C
D
C
B
I
E
B
J
B
J
C
D
B
G
I
just
drafted
that
a
couple
of
weekends
ago
and
it's
circulating
amongst
all
the
departments
now,
because
that
will
be
a
guidance
tool
for
the
Planning
Commission
when
they're
reviewing
these
types
of
projects,
so
this
is
a
chance
for
everybody.
Fire
chief,
for
example,
already
commented.
He
added
some
things
toward
the
end
of
it
in
on
the
fire
protection
observations,
so
this
is
everybody's.
G
This
is
your
golden
opportunity
to
weigh
in
there's
really
not
much
in
there
for
the
tree
Commission,
except
that
it
may
be
another
board,
Commission
approval,
but
feel
free
to
you
know,
modify
it
tweak
it
a
little
extra
emphasis
on
something
this
is.
This
is
the
chance,
because
this
will
be
a
document,
probably
that
all
future
planning
Commission's
will
use.
Everybody
in
administration
will
will
look
at
department.
Heads
have
to
the
service.
The
ordinance
says
the
Service
Safety
Director
can
ask
for
input
from
other
city
departments.
G
So,
for
example,
you
know
the
competing
utility
tree
tree
law
and
area.
You
know,
if
you
want
to
you,
know,
make
some
kind
of
comment
about.
You
know
the
utilities
and
the
trees
and
how
that
you
know
looks
in
the
hierarchy,
because
the
city
has
to
service
these
properties.
That's
part
of
what,
with
Road
water,
sewer,
streetlights
electricity.
C
G
At
there
is
the
opportunity-
and
even
if
it's
just
a
comment
to
to
the
Planning
Commission
I
mean
something
that
they
may
be
able
to
incorporate
into
policies
and
procedures
that
they
don't
have
now.
I
know
mayor
while
when
he
came
into
office,
was
looking
for
a
copy
for
Planning
Commission
policies
and
procedures.
Yeah
everybody
seemed
to
think
there
was
such
a
document,
but
nobody
could
find
one.
My
department
has
policies
and
procedures
so
to
all
city
departments.
So
it's
something
as
an
administrator
to
you
can
look
at
you.
G
Pull
out
of
books
like
an
Administrative,
Code
I
have
this
regulation.
How
do
I
apply
it
and
gives
you
a
history,
essentially
what
the
city's
done
and
you
know,
and
then
it
gives
you
an
opportunity
to
then
as
an
administrator,
to
go
back
and
revise
that
if
it's
not
working
so
this
is
a
document.
They'll
probably
be
out
there
for
a
while
out.
Nobody
will
ever
know
that
I
drafted
it,
but
that's.
Okay,
too,.
B
F
Greg
brought
hers,
14,
Granville
I,
just
wanted
to
address
the
the
project
or
I
should
say
of
putting
together
a
suggested
tree
list
and
actually
having
attended
the
International
Society
of
arborist
of
Ohio
chapter
conference
previous
years
and
I
also
am
a
candidate
for
certification.
Here
shortly,
I
was
able
to
come
across
some
publications
and
I
happen
to
have
a
pretty
good
one
right
here
that
you
can
take
a
look
at
I'll
copy
these
and
get
them
just
to
one
of
you.
So
you
can
take
a
look
at
it.