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Athens Shade Tree Commission - October 8, 2020
A
And
we
have
no
title
33
issues
to
make
a
decision
on,
I'm
going
to
just
report
on
the
walking
tour
that
I
did
with
jessica,
aldean,
the
city
engineer
and
bonner,
and
of
the
work
that's
proposed
for
west
union
street.
It
starts
down
near
the
I
think.
It's
the
hocking
conservancy
building
towards
the
end
of
the
west
union
just
by
the
bridge,
that's
over
the
river,
and
it
continues
all
the
way
along
until
you
get
to
shaffer
street.
A
The
main
impact
of
the
work
I
think,
is
going
to
be
minimal.
As
far
as
the
trees
are
concerned,
I
think
jessica's
got
some
good
ideas
on
how
to
protect
the
trees
and
she
definitely
wants
to
save
as
many
as
she
can.
Unfortunately,
the
trees
that
we
really
want
to
save
are
on
the
south
side
and
it
looks
practical
to
save
them
at
least
that
that
was
my
impression
as
we
walked
along
there,
the
north
side
of
the
street.
A
There
aren't
really
any
planting
opportunities
and
there
are
very
few
trees
on
that
side
of
the
street.
Until
you
get
to
the
west
union
street
cemetery,
we
did
identify
a
number
of
sites
that
jessica
will
hopefully
be
able
to
plant
some
trees
in
towards
the
end
of
the
project,
and
she's
got
some
ideas
about
how
we
can
certainly
save.
A
B
I
do
I
I'm
not
as
optimistic
as
you
are
david
about
it.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
engineering
challenge
and
a
construction
challenge
to
save
these
trees.
I
mean,
when
you
think,
about
what
they
need
to
do:
widening
the
road
and
then
adding
a
recreational
recreational
youth,
pat
used
path.
B
So
these
trees
are
big,
they're,
old,
they're,
structurally
sound
and
healthy.
So
I
think
they're
worth
protecting
and,
I
think
is
superb
and
I
I
really
appreciate
her
efforts
and
her
expertise,
but
it's
one
thing
to
design
great
plans.
B
It's
another
contractor
adhere
to
them,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
when
we
were
on
site
was
maybe
how
the
tree
commission
could
help
keep
an
eye
on
the
site,
maybe
even
be
assigned
to
do
review
of
the
site
once
a
day,
maybe
or
once
a
week,
probably
once
a
day
to
make
sure
that
the
exclusion
fencing
is
stays
up
and
the
contractors
stay
out
of
those
areas,
because
it
doesn't
very
long
for
them
to
compact
and
kill
the
roots
if
they
drive
over
those
wet
soils.
B
So
that's
not
something
the
city
has
the
resources
to
do.
You
know
in
terms
of
enforcing
every
day,
so
so
there
that's,
that's
my
take
on
it.
Okay,
that's.
A
Good
good
good
suggestion-
and
I
think
that's
certainly
something
the
some
of
us
on
the
tree
commission-
can
do
and
having
experienced
the
work,
that's
been
done
on
stepson
avenue
at
the
moment.
I
know
what
that
contractors
don't
always
follow
the
best
practices.
C
A
A
D
Hi
david:
yes,
what
we've
got
here
at
menards
is
a
370
trees
that
we
can
use.
Menards
will
give
those
to
the
city
that
we
can
use
throughout
the
city
to
plant.
Know
that
they're
open
the
agreement
was
that
once
they
open
they'll,
be
able
to
provide
and
install
370
trees
to
the
city
for
projects
that
they
need.
So
that's
a
great
thing.
We
just
got
to
find
out
where,
where
we'd
like
to
have
those
trees
planted.
A
D
B
What
a
wonderful
windfall
for
the
city
nancy-
and
I
were
talking
today
about
the
idea
of
developing
kind
of
a
modest
but
routine
regular
tree
replacement
program
for
residential
areas
in
the
city.
You
know
just
trying
to
kind
of
get
on
a
regular
annual
thing.
You
know
where
you
have
a
budget
and
you
you
know
you're
planting
the
same
amount
of
trees
every
year
and
one
of
the
things
I
mean
this
would
be
perfect
start
to
this.
B
Although
it's
a
lot
of
trees
and
370
trees
is
a
lot
to
take
care
of
you
know
planted
at
once,
but
I
guess
maybe
what
we
should
do
as
a
committee
or
even
individuals
to
start
developing
a
data,
a
spreadsheet
on
planting
locations
fall
is
a
great
time
to
plant.
Maybe
what
what's
the
timeline
dave
on?
How
fast
could
we
plant
these
over
two
years
or
yeah.
D
Actually,
what
I
don't
think
they
want
to
do
is
plant
them
all
at
once.
That'd
be
a
real
burden
on
anybody
to
try
to
maintain
those
to
keep
them
alive.
So
what
I
would
maybe
suggest
is
that
we
find
a
smaller
project.
We
plant
a
few
down
the
road.
There's,
there's
not
a
really
a
deadline
associated
with
how
how
long
it
will
take
for
us
to
to
get
those
trees
in.
So
if
we
could
do
a
few
at
a
time
in
selected
areas,
I
think
that
would
be
ideal
for
the
city
good.
A
A
Some
of
the
plans
that
we've
had
in
the
past
were
not
plans
but
identification
of
sites
that
albie
and
I
did
a
number
of
years
ago.
These
were
more
general
than
really
specific.
We
went
around
finding
streets
that
we
thought
trees
could
be
planted
on.
I'm
not
sure
how
we
how
we
will
proceed
at
that
point,
but
certainly
that,
I
think,
is
where
we
need
to
start.
A
A
I
sent
a
question
back
asking
if
there's,
if
it's
a
budget
issue
or
what
is
really
at
the
bottom
of
this,
because
traditionally
we
have
planted
trees
using
city
buns
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
tree
city
usa
report
is
gonna.
Look
like
this
year
again.
I've
asked
andrew
about
whether
he
plans
to
fill
that
out
or
or
not.
A
He
also
pointed
out
to
me
that
we
have,
I
think,
a
vacancy
in
the
city
for
a
landscaper.
I
wasn't
even
even
aware
that
the
city
had
such
a
position.
Peter,
do
you
know
anything
about
this
at
all.
C
We
actually
certified
one
as
an
arborist,
and
this
this
all
revolves
around
when
the
city
had
to
take
over
the
the
cemetery,
specifically
the
one
on
west
union,
and
so
we
we
inherited
a
lot
of
trees
and
a
lot
of
space.
They
they
reside
under
lands
and
buildings.
A
Okay,
she's,
I'm
just
seeing
if
I've
got
the
the
email
from
him
yeah.
A
Yeah
there's
a
head:
they've
got
a
head
landscaping
position,
that's
vacant
and
grounds
crew
positions
that
are
vacant
as
well,
and
so
he
says,
they're
going
to
need
volunteers
to
help
with
planting.
If
we
do
any
planting
which
again
sort
of
puzzles
me,
because
in
the
past,
what
we've
done
is
we've
had
five
springs
or
whatever
nursery
it
was
that
we
bought
the
trees
from
to
do
the
planting
and
then
maintenance
for
the
first
year.
C
No,
this
is
the
first
first
I've
heard
of
it.
The
city
administration
doesn't
doesn't
come
to
us
with
with
all
of
their
their
staffing
changes,
so
no
I'd.
I
would
assume
that
it
would
be
posted
if
it
hasn't
hasn't
already
been.
I
guess
hr
director
would
probably
have
have
a
better
idea
about
that.
B
A
I
will
follow
up
with
ron
on
the
positions.
A
Okay,
so
in
terms
of
the
this
item
of
planning
that
nancy
wanted
to
have
included.
Has
anyone
got
any
ideas
at
the
moment
other
than
just
collecting
sites?
B
E
B
If
you
know,
if
there
aren't
better,
you
know,
they're,
not
probably
the
best
ideas
but
they're,
just
some
to
get
started,
you
want
me
to
just
throw
them
out
just
for
a
minute.
Yes,
yes,
please,
okay,
west
union,
the
hdl
center.
Is
that
what
they
call
it
that
harold
laflin
there
used
to
be
a
lot
of
trees
between
the
curb
and
the
parking
lot
there
and
most
just
to
hide
over
the
years.
B
B
I
think
we
could
do
some
really
neat
things
with
some
of
the
highway
interchanges.
We
need
height
in
these
interchanges,
there's
a
gigantic
green
space
between
the
highway
menards
and
the
highway
patrol.
B
We
could
easily
do
some
beautiful
stuff
there
with
bald
cypress,
just
some
clusters
of
trees,
low
maintenance
and
and
reduce
mowing
costs
and
really
enhance
the
look
of
our
city
as
you
enter
it
from
the
east.
Also,
the
interchange
on
east
state
street
that
has
the
little
fufu
plants
at
the
base
for
storm
water.
Oh
my
gosh
jane.
B
And
then
last
week,
and
then
just
one
one
more
just
off
the
top
of
my
head
is
jackie
klopfer
and
I
we
inventoried
elmwood
years
ago.
Woods
actually
lost
a
lot
of
tree
canopy.
B
Yes,
they
do
have
some
big
trees
but
they're,
mostly
big
sweet
gums,
which
aren't
the
best
street
tree.
There
are
a
lot
of
tree
plant
and-
and
this
would
be
an
easy
place
to
replace
trees
because
number
one
really
good
the
sites
are
really
good.
We
could
plant
things
like
black
gum
and
pin
oak
and
things
that
we
couldn't
plant
other
places,
and
I
know
the
residents
there
would
be
more
positive
about
number
one
receiving
the
tree
and
number
two
taking
care
of
it.
B
A
B
Oh
yeah,
we
got
distracted
because
of
jim's
cat
that
the
second
one
is
the
sec,
the
interchange
by
east
state
street.
There
is
a
that
round:
bowl
of
green
space
as
you
come
off
the
highway
onto
east
stage,.
B
Yes,
yeah:
there
is
a
planting
there
that
the
soil
and
water
conservation
district
did.
But
it's
it's
real
small
and
it's
actually
got
some
some
cottonwoods
growing
in
it.
Volunteers,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
it
needs
to
plant
some
sweet
gums
out
above
it
they
wouldn't
hinder
hit.
You
know
views
but
it'd
give
you
some
height
and
some
color
and
it'd
be
kind
of
like
what
they
did
in
logan
on
their
their
interchange.
B
I
I
I
do
think
you
do
need
to
work
with
the
state,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
problem
there.
We
could
find
that
out.
I
guess
we'd
have
to
to
talk
to
some
people
and
we'd
have
to
talk
to
people
in
their
the
big
green
space
by
the
vet
clinic
and
the
patrol
just
to
make
sure
you
know.
A
Well,
they
said
that
that
that
section
of
east
state
street
is
amongst
the
list
of
areas
that
alvi
and
I
identified
several
years
ago
and
having
something
like
this
373
bank
sitting
there
waiting,
I
think,
is
a
is-
will
make
it
possible
to
do
something
along
there.
Certainly.
F
Could
I
say
something
yep
having
attended
the
tree
conference?
I
think
the
the
last
one
in
the
series,
the
I
think
it's
the
second
one
that
was
presented
was
really
good.
At
first,
it
seemed
like
it
was
going
to
be
a
little
dry,
but
in
fact
there
was
a
wealth
of
information
there,
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
is
that
the
man
giving
it
who's
been
a
urban
arborist
for
a
long
time.
F
Urban
forester
is
that
he
reckoned
that
77
of
the
money
spent
in
the
urban
forest
is
wasted,
largely
because
the
trees
are
not
they're,
they're
not
planted
correctly
and
then
often
not
watered,
and
the
big
thing
is
the
biggest
thing
in
holding
back
an
urban
forest
is
that
the
young
trees
are
not
trained,
which
it's
a
real
surprise
to
me.
F
You
know
that
that
is
such
a
big
deal,
but
so
I
don't
suppose
any
of
this
tree
money
from
menards
can
be
converted
into
maintenance
work,
but
I
think
we,
the
idea
of
spreading
out
the
plantings,
is
a
really
good
idea,
because
then
there's
a
better
chance
in
the
meantime.
Maybe
we
can
get
the
city
more
involved
in
in
the
maintenance
work.
F
You
know
that
living
up
you
know
doing
everything
properly
so
that
the
young
trees
we
see
on
west
union
that
those
trees
that
were
planted
have
not
been
have
not
there's
been
no
training
involved.
As
far
as
I
can
tell
with
that.
F
B
It's
it's
the
idea
that
you
know
if
you
train
kids,
when
they're
young,
they
do
better
when
they're
older,
you
know,
trees
and
kids
are
the
more
pliable
and
more
more
open
to
direction,
and
so
not
an
expensive
endeavor.
It's
not
a
highly
technical
thing
that
you
have
to
do
to
your
trees,
most
of
athens
trees.
I
don't
see
a
lot
of,
I
mean
you
know
just
general
lifting
you
know
cutting
outside
the
branch
collar
making
sure
you
get
the
stakes
off.
B
I
I
wouldn't
say
you
guys
you
do
a
decent
job
of
that.
I
think
in
the
past
what
I've
seen
one
of
our
problems,
the
you
know
with
some
of
these,
the
trees
just
take
a
beating.
You
know,
from
the
kids
and
from
soil
compaction
and.
B
Yes,
you
should
have
specifications
and
I
can
send
those
out
for
you
guys
to
give
to
menards.
You
know
some
specifications
or
you
could
just
google,
you
know
the
isa
and
the
ohio
nursery
and
landscape
association
has
specifications
that
you
can
hold.
Contractors
to.
You
know.
F
A
Thank
you
appreciate
that
yeah
I
I'm
a
little
bit
surprised
is
his
dating
methods
allowing
a
precision
of
that
it's
77
and
not
76
or
78
percent.
A
A
A
Okay,
we,
I
think
scott
silenced
it
for
us.
Thank
you,
yes
and
scott
has
posted
a
note
in
the
chat
that
the
only
thing
the
only
position
that
is
currently
posted
by
the
city
is
an
I.t
support
intern,
so
I'll
go
back
to
andrew
and
find
out
and
run
and
find
out
if
these
are
actual
real
vacancies
or,
if
they're,
just
positions
that
aren't
being
filled
at
the
moment.
A
Okay,
so
I
will
begin
a
spreadsheet.
I
guess
I'll
continue
a
spreadsheet.
I
think
alvey-
and
I
did
did
something
like
this
a
while
ago
and
see
where
it
takes
us.
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
want
to
talk
about
this
evening
before
we
move
to
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting.
F
Well,
nancy,
and
I
were
talking-
we
were
so
impressed
with
the
tree
conference
and
we
sort
of
narrowed
down
or
I
narrowed
down
to
at
least
two
of
the
talks.
And
I
can't
remember
how
long
they
ran.
But
we
were
wondering
if
that's
something
that
we
could
include,
maybe
a
whole
one
or
a
part
of
one
at
the
end
of
a
meeting.
Particularly
if
we
have
a
nice
short
meeting
than
to
to
sort
of
get
us
all
up
to
speed.
Rather
than
each
of
us
trying
to
to
to
go
back.
F
And-
and
you
said
that
they're
in
a
process
and
of
getting
that
loaded
so
that
we
can.
B
F
Yeah
also
an
hour,
so
it's
just
an
hour
right
and
he
did
they
did
research.
They
went
around
and
talked
to
tree
city,
usa,
cities
and
they
interviewed
them
and
then
later
his
wife
said.
F
Well,
yes,
you
know
that's
what
you
figured
out,
but
but
how
effective
are
those
so
then
they
went
back
and
figured
out
a
way
of
scoring
the
effectiveness
and
they
came
out
with
some
some
sort
of
different
answers
so
that
I
thought
that
might
be
really
interesting
so
and
we
may
find
out
why
it's
77
instead
of
75.
A
Nancy
you're
coming
up
as
as
lee
greg
at
the
moment
for
some
reason.
G
A
G
H
A
E
E
Offhand,
I
don't
have
the
exact
amounts.
I
think
the
basics
are
like
less
than
a
hundred
dollars,
which
I
think
is
just
percent
of
tree
canopy.
G
B
I
spoke
with
paul
logue
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
he
and
an
intern
had
been
playing
around
with
ayu
tree
a
little
bit
so
so
it
might
be
worthwhile
to
talk
to
him
to
get
his
his
insights.
I
you
know
just
as
an
urban
forester
and
we
went
through
this
with
ou.
B
Inventories
are
good
for
two
things:
management
or
sales.
You
know
so
to
prioritize
your
management.
You
know
hey
how
many
trees
you
gotta
prune
this
year,
how
many
trees
you
gotta
train,
because
you
can
look
at
how
many
you
planted
in
1999
and
how
many
plants
and
then
the
other
thing
you
do
with
these.
I
tree
inventories
is
you
can
kind
of
figure
out
what
you
have
and
how
the
ecosystem
service
is,
and
it's
a
sales
tool
to
to?
You
know
leverage
funding
for
for
this
asset
that
you
have
in
this
capital
asset.
B
I
mean
at
your
stage.
I
think
you
got
370
trees
that
you
have
to
plan
for
I'd,
focus
on
that.
First,
that's
a
great,
and
I
would
and
maybe
work
on
some
organizational
things
that
you
can
do
to
make
your
group
stronger.
You
know
figuring
out
how
to
better
integrate
with
the
city
departments
and
and
be
helpful
to
them
and
have
a
voice
with
them.
It
was
a
great
exercise
working
with
jessica
and
bob
heady
at
the
engineering
department.
I
learned
so
much.
There's
there's
there's
a
lot
that
they
do.
B
That's
related
to
urban
forestry
and-
and
you
know
we
we
could-
we
could
have
a
better
role
in
that.
I
think
so.
So
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
inventories
because
number
one
they
cost
money
and
they
take
a
lot
of
time
and
member
jackie
klopfer
did
an
inventory
for
the
city
and
you
know
nothing
what
came
of
it
and
you
did
the
one
in
1992
and
what
what
would
we
do
with
it?
So
just
some
things
to
think
about
yep.
G
Well,
I
was
thinking
for
a
goal
if
we,
if
we
do
try
to
set
up
a
kind
of
plan
of
how
we
would
like
to
have
the
city
help
us
establish
a
help,
grow
our
in
our
inventory
having
a
a
specific
way
to
measure.
That
would
be
helpful.
I
think
don't
you
I
mean
it
seems
like
a
specific
way
of
saying
this
is
what
we
have,
and
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
have.
B
Yeah,
I
I
agree,
you
know
I
when
I
worked
for
the
city
of
upper
arlington,
my
whole
job
was
keeping
the
inventory
updated
and
but
they
they
had
an
urban
forester
and
they
had
somebody
they
paid.
You
know
they
paid
me
to
go
around
and
make
sure,
because
every
time
you
do
something
to
a
tree,
you
know
that
the
inventory
needs
to
be
updated
and
stuff,
and
it
is
a
really
cool
tool.
B
And
if
you
have
somebody,
that's
really
computer
savvy,
you
could
even
do
it
on
excel,
like
some
of
the
best
inventories
could
just
be
on
simple
software,
but
unless
there's
somebody
that's
really
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
dissuade
you
if
it
was
something
you
really
wanted
to
do
and
you
guys
could
figure
out
how
to
do
it
and
maintain
it
great.
A
F
B
Yeah,
honestly,
we
have
not
done
an
organized
tree
planting,
probably
since
we
planted
those
trees
on
682
20
years
ago
or
something
I
mean
when's.
The
last
time
now
now
granite
the
developers
plant
trees
when
they
develop
land,
but
you
know
they're
also
developing
land.
So
you
know
we
really
should
ron
always
said
when
he
took
a
tree
out.
He
always
tried
to
put
one
back
and
that,
but
that's
not
building
your
canopy.
You
know,
there's
probably
like
logan,
for
example,
and
again
it
took
a
long
time
in
chillicothe
same
way.
B
We
just
we
have
a
plan.
We
we
plant
about
between
20
and
50
trees
every
year,
and
that's
just
told
that
we're
going
to
do
that
for
10
or
15
years
and
both
those
towns
went
to
both
of
those
commissions,
went
to
their
city
councils
and
told
them
that
this
was
a
long-term
goal
and
they
need
this
money
to
do
that.
Every
year
and
chillicothe,
especially
they've,
been
able
to
get
they've
done
such
a
good
job
and
the
trees
look
so
good
that
they
have
gotten
more
money
every
year.
B
A
B
They
they
do
it's
just
a
number
in
those
towns.
They
have
just
paper
that
they
can
afford
and
that
they
can.
They
can
now
both
both
of
those
towns
they
plant
their
employees,
the
actual
tree
commission
plants
logan
how
they
do
it.
They
buy
bare
root,
trees
but
they're
about
an
inch
or
two
inch
in
diameter
or
caliper.
B
So
they
can,
they
can
get
them
pretty
cheap,
they
get
them
from
acorn
farms.
One
of
the
members
has
a
connection
there,
and
so
you
know
the
city
guys
dig
the
hole
and
then
the
tree
commissioners
plant
them
and
it's
it's-
some
sweat
equity
of
course
chillicothe
same
thing.
Instead
of
their
street
department
like
logan
and
chillicothe,
it's
the
parks
department
and
the
tree
commission
that
plant
them
jointly.
You
know
the
park,
people
have
heavy
equipment
and
stuff
okay.
G
B
B
G
B
But
I
think
that
this
menards
gives
us.
I
mean
it's
a
whole
bunch
of
seed
money
seeds.
You
know
this
is
that's
easy.
I
think
so
this
whole
next
month,
every
time
you're,
driving
around
town,
jim
and
peter
everybody
look
at
places
that
need
treason,
write
them
down.
You
know
right,
be
thinking,
I
think,
as
david
pointed
out
earlier,
with
the
west
union
project
like
think
about
where
we
can
put
big
tall
trees.
B
You
know,
because
those
are
the
trees
that
you
know
are
easy
to
take
care
of
they
last
longer
and
where
we
can
plant
groupings
of
trees.
Where
they're
going
to
make
a
statement,
you
know,
I
always
say
one
tree's
a
target
for
vandalism,
four
or
five
make
a
statement
like
they
belong
there
and
they
tend
to
do
better.
F
Well,
david,
you
remember
when
we
worked
on
a
plan
for
east
state
street,
because
alby
was
concerned
about
just
being
his
concrete
shoot
when
they
were
widening
the
street.
Yes,
by
the
way,
I
noticed
a
lot
of
those
crab
apple
treats
are
gone.
I
I
don't
understand
why
that
happened,
but
old
age.
No,
no!
These
were
ones
that
were
planted
to
replace
the
ones
that
were
yeah.
F
Block
up
on
the
east
side
streets
there
there
are
no
trees,
and
so
the
the
dampening
down
of
the
heat
doesn't
happen
until
you're
you're
considerably
up.
So
it
would
be
possible
to
somehow
get
some
trees
in
there.
That
would
be
great.
A
Yes,
those
many
of
those
streets
were
on
the
list
that
albie
and
I
gave
the
city
the
now
going
back
to
the
state
street
project.
That's
a
typical
problem
site
because
the
city
chose
to
leave
all
the
high
voltage
cables
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
and
what
we
want
are
trees
on
east
west
streets.
We
want
the
trees
on
the
south
side.
We
don't
want
them
on
the
north
side,
particularly
because
that
way
you
get
most
of
the
shade
on
the
street
on
streets
running
north
south.
A
It
doesn't
really
matter
which
side
of
the
street
you
you
plant
the
trees
on
the
now
that
was,
as
I
say,
that
was
a
problem
with
east
state
street
and
the
we
couldn't
plant
trees
on
the
north
side
anyway,
because
the
business
owners
wouldn't
let
the
city
plant
trees
on
their
property,
because
I
think
the
right
of
way
is
quite
narrow
and
there
just
wasn't
enough
space
for
the
sidewalk.
G
Whatever
what
I
was
talking
about
with
the
treat
the
streets?
Yes,
I.
A
I
I
didn't
understand
that
nancy
and
I
was
saying
that
those
streets
are
on
a
list
that
we
gave
the
city
several
years
ago,
and
so
I
I'll
try
and
dig
out
those
those
lists
that
albie
and
I
put
together
and
start
start
them
off
again
and
we
can
certainly
target
those
streets
for
planting.
That's
that's,
certainly
a
a
possibility.
F
B
A
A
B
And
I
think
it's
important
how
that
letter's
worded-
and
I
also
this
is
where
the
neighborhood
associations
would
be
very
helpful
again.
I
don't
think
it's
you're
at
the
stage
where
you
got
to
force
anybody
to
take
a
treat.
There
are
so
many
plantings,
there'll
be
plenty
of
people
that
want
trees
and
then.
B
They'll
they'll
be
knocking
on
your
door
later.
Believe
me,
that's
usually
how
it
works,
but
yeah
the
neighborhood
associations
I
could
have
imagined
they
could
kind
of
get
the
word
out.
I.
F
I
don't
yeah
and
there
are
people
who've
lost
trees
because
they
had
ash
trees,
you
know
and
they
would
like
a
replacement,
but-
and
I
would
be
willing
david
to
go
and
talk
to
people
at
the
chosen
sites.
F
G
Do
you
think
that
we
could
maybe
begin
to
establish
a
goal
like
how
many
we'd
like
to
do.
A
A
I
I
think
that
that's
a
reasonable
number
for
a
city
of
this
size
to
be
to
be
working
towards
now.
If,
if
the
city
wants
to
knock
us
back
on
that
one
I
mean
that's,
but
I
would
think
to
be
a
tree
city.
Usa.
A
You've
at
least
got
to
replace
all
the
trees
that
you
take
out
and
plant
a
few
more
and
you
know,
20
to
50
sounds
like
a
reasonable
number
that
could
be
managed
in
terms
of
sites
identified
and
then,
of
course,
there
is
the
maintenance
of
those
trees.
Long
term.
A
Yes,
just
like
the
the
as
I
was,
I
was
concerned
over
the
the
menards
arrangement
that
we
weren't
gonna
be
digging
the
holes,
but
the
the
the
the
the
agreement
did
include
the
installation.
A
It
didn't
include
the
maintenance
which
we
often
do
include
in
the
first
year
from
five
spring
farms
and
the
other
nurseries
that
we've
had
planted
trees,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
to
tread
carefully
around
that
one,
because
we
definitely
need
help
from
the
city
in
maintaining
alligator
bags
and
other
things
yeah
around
them
for
that
for
first
year
at
least
and
from
what
I've
seen.
I
don't
know
whether
and
you've
got
any
guidance
on
this.
A
B
B
I
think
if
you
do
the
first
year
you're
giving
that
tree
a
good
start.
Okay,
if
you
you
know,
if
there's
a
drought,
you
might
want
to
carry
on
that
second
or
third
year,
but
that
first
year
is
crucial.
Oh
yeah
yeah,
I
think,
would
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
figure
out
what
city
department
would
kind
of
lead
the
charge
on
this
on
this
regular
tree
planting,
you
know,
is
it
food?
Is
it
parks?
Is
it
streets?
A
That
may
be
what
you
have
to
do,
because
from
what
I
understand,
we've
got
an
engineering
and
roads
department,
we've
got
recreation
department
and
by
the
sound
of
it,
we've
got
a
some
sort
of
maintenance
of
the
cemeteries
department,
and
these
are
all
areas
where
you
could
find
people
who
might
be
expected
to
maintain
landscapes
in
some
shape
or
form.
A
But
there
has
never
been
any
clear
role
defined
for
the
city
overall
in
terms
of
management
of
that,
and
I
think
when
we
had
ron
lucas,
he
did
try
and
get
cooperation,
particularly
with
the
recreation
people,
to
get
things
done,
for
instance,
on
the
bike
path.
G
A
B
Can
I
can
I
just
put
a
plug
in
and
you
guys
might
disagree
with
this,
but
so
if
there's
this
empty
position
at
the
city
and
and
there's
this
idea
that
we
need
landscapers-
and
I
remember
colton
and
dane-
you
know
hardworking
guys,
but
I
remember
in
the
winter
they
you
know
would
not
have
work
to
do
and
they'd
be
up
chickweed
out
of
the
far
beds
and
stuff,
and
you
know
in
my
mind
in
my
little
pee
brain
I
was
like
you-
should
be
mulching,
trees
or
pruning.
B
You
know
you
trees
exactly
yeah,
but
see
they
weren't
tree
people.
They
learned
to
be
tree
people,
you
know
they
were
really
great.
I
worked
with
them
a
lot
and
I
was
really
sad
when
colton
switched
jobs,
but
it
really
should
be
focused
on
trees.
I
mean
to
me
the
flowers
are
fluff,
the
trees
are
yeah
and
I
guess
I'm
only
saying
this
amongst
us
so
that
when
you
guys
talk
to
council
that
you
can
reinforce
that,
you
know
it's
the
trees
we
they're
going
to
grow.
You.
A
I
I
I've
had
a
go
at
trying
to
explain
this
to
the
mayor
along
that
along
these
lines
that
you
know
if
you
want
to
do
the
athens
in
bloom,
well
that
this
this
requires
workers
during
the
summer,
in
particular
to
do
a
lot
of
things.
We
do
require
the
watering
of
trees
too
in
the
summer,
but
in
the
winter
those
same
workers
can
be
pruning
trees
and
doing
all
the
other
tidying
up
jobs
around
the
trees
yeah.
A
But
it's
a
case
of
commitment
of
the
city
to
this,
and
I
think
that's
always
been
a
problem.
B
Well,
I
think
the
the
leaders,
you
know
they're
not
tree
people,
so
you
know,
I
don't
think
that
george
was
the
boss
of
dane
and
colton
like.
I
just
don't
think
he
knew
that.
Oh,
that
would
be
a
good
thing
for
them
to
do
yeah.
You
know
like
it
because
you
know
they're
not
true,
so
I
think
it's
up
to
us
to
really
better
navigate
the
city
department.
Well,
we
gotta
figure
out
who's
in
charge
and
what's
reasonable
to
ask
and
maybe
what's
not
really
reasonable,
to
ask.
I
I
don't
know
I'm
well.
A
I
might
my
approach
is
well.
I
I
think
that
you
start
at
the
top
and
you
and
you
come
down.
So
it's
a
case
of
the
mayor
and
then
the
service
safety
director,
because
I
think
all
of
these
people,
the
recreation
director
of
the
city
engineer
they
all
report
to
the
service
safety
director.
A
I
think-
and
so
that's
why
I
say
it's
a
case
of
getting
those
people
at
the
top
to
agree
that
this
is
an
important
thing
and
then
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
spread
the
the
load
where,
where
are
the
positions
going
to
be?
That
will
do
this.
G
What
one
of
the
things
that
that
anne
had
said
once
not
too
long
ago
about
it?
This
is
just
another
thought
about
locating
trees.
G
If
we
each
took
some
time
and
drove
down
a
certain
neighborhood
certain
neighborhoods
and
looked
through
spots,
that
might
be
a
way
to
to
broaden
our
scope
of
where
we
want
to
plant
trees.
Yes,.
F
Some
of
those
might
be
congruent
with
what
david
and
alfie
did
so.
A
It's
no
problem
in
having
it
duplicated.
F
A
Okay,
well,
I
think
we've
got
to
get
enough
ideas
there
to
keep
us
busy
for
a
while
I'll
dig
in
the
records
and
see
if
I
can
find
those
communications
that
I
spoke
about.
A
That
that
will
form
part
of
it.
I
mean,
I
think
I
think
the
whole
thing
needs
needs
fleshing
out
in
terms
of
a
description
of
where
we
think
trees
can
be
planted.
A
The
philosophy
of
the
you
know,
I
think
the
dan's
way
of
strategically
picking
the
the
sites
that
are
easy
to
plant
and
will
have
the
biggest
impact
is
another
thing
making
it
clear
that
we
want
to
plant
progressively
over
the
next
several
years
and
that
we
want
to
have
workers
in
the
city
who
are
going
to
help
maintain
this
and
a
plan
for
how
those
workers
are
going
to
be
managed.
H
A
We
have
to
be
careful
that
the
the
docking
conservancy
manages
that
area
until
you
get
out
of
the
floodway
and
typically
the
conservancy
doesn't
want
trees
in
the
in
the
floodway.
A
A
H
A
I've
heard
that
the
engineers
don't
have
a
problem
with
trees
being
planted
there
and
that
there
are
other
issues
going
on
somewhere
else.
It's
about
why
trees
should
be
planted.
F
A
That
may
be
what
the
what
the
conservancy
will
tell
you,
but
they're
just
establishing
that
the
corps
of
engineers
doesn't
say
you
have
to
keep
them
clear
of
trees.
G
You
know
there
has
been
a
change
in
the
in
the
in
something
in
the
management
of
the
banks,
because
they're
allowing
more
native
plants
and
stuff
to
grow
along
the
banks
and
not
mow
every
single
inch,
which
is
a
step
forward
anyway.
B
B
B
Croft
is
the
manager
by
the
way
he's
got
30
years
in
he's
going
to
retire
and
pete,
and
you
guys
that
are
in
charge
of
things
get
to
have
today
and
who
gets
that
job
and
that's
your
chance
to
give
it
to
a
land
manager,
somebody
that
actually
has
a
background
in
land
management
or
natural
resources
management
because
mark
just
worked
his
way
up.
C
G
C
The
clarification
the
council
isn't
isn't
in
charge
of
those
hires
those
they
all
work
for
the
mayor,
so
it
is,
it
falls
under
you
know,
under
under
his
department,
heads
and
things
like
that,
so
those
kind
of
suggestions
should
go
directly
to
well.
Would
I
mean
I
would
I
would
def
you
know,
since
since
ron
is
hr
and
and
had
been
present
at
these
meetings,
I
think
that
he
would
be
very
receptive
and
probably
a
good
one
to
to
to
hear
that.
B
And
honestly,
I
think
even
I
think
it's
even
like
judges
that
help
pick
that
person
even
beyond
the
city.
I
think
it's
like
a
county
because
you
know
they
manage
land
in
albany.
You
know
like
there's
flood
control
lakes,
all
around
the
county
that
are
managed
under
this
program,
but
it's
just
something
you
guys
all
live
in
athens
and
they'll.
B
B
This
is
the
hawking
conservancy
district
and
oh,
oh
yeah,
so
mark
holdcroft
is
the
I
I'm
gonna
meet
with
him
in
november,
so
I'll
he
tells
me
every
year
of
the
hierarchy,
but
I
do
believe
it
was
like
it
might
be
the
mayor
of
athens
and
then
a
county
judge
of
something
it's
weird
who
appoints
them,
there's
no,
nobody
that
has
like
a
natural
resources
background.
You
know.
B
He's
just
the
manager
he's
the
director
at
mark.
Holdcroft
nancy
is
the
receptionist
there
jim.
That
would
be
great
if
you
had
like
documentation
about
what
doctor
says
because
yeah
we
we
they
do
need
to
hear
it.
You
know
and-
and
I
think
they
are
more
open
to
planting
trees,
but
I've
got
to
tell
you
from
planting
down
there.
The
soil
sucks,
it's
a
really
hard
place
to
plant,
plus
there's
a
lot
of
deer.
B
F
Don't
don't
trees
naturally
come
in
on
riverbanks?
It
seems
like
that's
a
you
know,
a
natural
phenomenon
I
mean
even
with
deer
and
poor
soil.
B
Yeah
they
do
and
and
that's
where,
if
you,
you
want
to
walk
down,
walk
down
behind
the
mexican
restaurant
there
and
behind
the
the
the
car
wash
and
they
did
they're
neat
the
way
they
mow
it.
They
mow
it's
like
two
big
squares,
because
you
know
they
always
want
to
have
access
and
which
is
cool.
Actually
and
now
you
know
for
years
when
it
was
mode
as
a
hay
field.
No
one
ever
used
it.
B
B
A
Well,
I
can
tell
you
a
bit
more
about
the
hucking
conservancy.
It's
it's
governed
by
one
common,
please
judge
from
each
of
the
two
counties
within
the
watershed.
It's
got
three
directors,
abigail
saving,
tim
warren
and
alex
tyre.
A
A
A
Actually,
there
was
one
thing
I
I
want
to
commissions
to
think
about.
I
noticed
in
the
information
that
anne
forwarded
out
on
the
shade
tree
can
on
the
streets
of
the
usa.
A
These
meetings
are
a
strain
to
be
honest
with
you
in
terms
of
just
having
online
meetings
hour
after
hour
throughout
the
day,
and
so
I'm
looking
for
ways
that
I
don't
have
to
do
so
many
meetings,
and
so
I
I'll
be
interested
in
hearing
not
now.
I
can
be
later
people's
opinions
about
whether
we
should
reduce
the
number
of
meetings
that
we're
having
and
see
if
well,.
A
It
is
yes,
and
it
could
be
that
we'll.
We
will
just
nominate
some
some
months
that
we
will
traditionally
skip
and
we
used
to
skip
one
in
the
summer
typically
august.
But
when
the
shift
in
what
the
city
does
now,
it
might
be
better
to
skip
july
december
has
been
a
problem
month
in
the
past
in
terms
of
getting
a
quorum.
But
the
as
I
say
it's.
A
Quite
a
bit
of
work,
putting
all
this
lot
together
and
we
are
using
the
resources
of
the
city.
We've
got
two
city
employees
at
each
of
these
meetings,
and
so
that's
a
cost
to
the
city
as
well.
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
people
aware
that
that's
what
I'm
thinking
at
the
moment.
I
don't
know
whether
whether
something
changed
I
always
thought
it
was
ten
meetings
we
had
to
have
a
year,
but
looking
over
the
document
that
dan
circulated
recently
it
it
just
said:
six:
okay,
we
we
can
easily
meet
six,
and
I
think
that
would
be
too
too
few
to
have,
but
I'm
certainly
of
the
opinion
that
there
are
times
when
we
probably
don't
need
to
meet.
A
So
with
that,
let
me
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
with
the
minutes.
Assuming
I
can
find
them.
Yeah
see
they
are
okay.
So
here
are
the
minutes
of
the
the
last
meeting
I
did
circulate
them
yesterday.
G
A
You
thank
you,
jim
any
discussion
at
all
on
the
minutes.
Any
comments
before
we,
I
call
the
vote.