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Athens Shade Tree Commission - December 8, 2022
A
Great
welcome
this
is
a
shade
tree
commission
for
December,
seventh,
eighth,
eight!
Thank
you
and
yes,
so,
first
order
of
business
tonight
for
our
meeting
is
to
set
the
agenda
to
set
the
Quorum
we
have
set.
The
second
thing
is
to
vote
on
the
minutes.
From
last
time,
we
can
I
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting.
Yes
can
I
have
a
second.
B
C
A
D
F
C
F
C
So
one
of
the
initiatives
that
we
have
for
shade
tree
this
year
was
to
increase
the
number
of
trees
planted
in
the
city
and
that
included
in
some
of
the
neighborhoods,
where
we
have
reduced
tree
canopy,
especially
in
the
near
and
the
Far
East
neighborhoods,
and
the
way
that
we
set
it
up
was
is
that
we
were
soliciting
interested
Neighbors
and
they
would
then
set
up
a
time
to
meet
with
us.
We
would
go
over
their
land
and
you
know
their
desires
for
the
city,
right-of-way
property
in
front
of
their
house.
C
C
Yeah
who's
we,
so
you
were
one
of
the
people
who
did
it.
C
C
We
also
had
I,
think
Andrew
did
or
no
sorry,
David
Riggs
did
one
of
them
as
well,
along
with
Ann
Bonner,
because
there
was
a
site
on
the
west
side
that
needed
special
attention.
They
took
down
a
tree,
so
I
met
with
those
individuals
along
with
David
and
that
went
pretty
well
and
we
we
made
the
orders
and
then
so
then
I
followed
up
with
the
residences
and
out
of
the
10
people.
Two
of
the
people
decided
that
they
did
not
want
trees.
C
At
that
point,
one
of
them
was
going
to
move
and
the
other
one
was
concerned
about
drainage
and
their
drainage
tiles,
with
the
sewer
and
perhaps
the
tree
roots,
getting
into
that.
C
Even
though
we
had
a
solution,
so
we
had
that
and
then
we
had
one
neighbor
who
did
not
respond
at
all
zero
and
I
later
found
out.
It
was
because
they
had
planned
to
remove
a
tree
stump,
they
had
taken
down
a
large
tree
and
then
they
found
out
the
cost
of
removing
the
tree
stump
and
it
was
just
too
expensive.
So
out
of
the
ten,
we
lost
three
right
off
the
bat.
The
other
neighbors
were
really
great.
I
went
out
and
marked
the
property
with
flags.
C
We
contracted
with
green
leaf,
so
Andrew
Chickie
and
I,
with
Kevin
Scurlock
from
the
city,
and
that's
where
we
are
right
now.
We're
waiting
for
Green
Leaf
to
plant
the
trees
and
the
process
sounds
really
straightforward,
but
actually
it
wasn't.
There
were
lots
of
emails.
I
actually
had
to
chase
up
two
of
the
People
by
going
to
their
homes
and
finding
them
I
really
want
to
work
with
the
neighbors.
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
program.
C
The
idea,
though,
is
that
we're
going
to
scale
it
up,
so
10
is
small
right.
We
were
talking
about
50
trees.
If
we
do,
this
I
think
we
need
to
bring
more
people
on
board
to
do
this.
I
think
we
need
to
streamline
the
process
too.
G
As
a
person
that
did
the
first
step
just
to
present,
the
idea
to
the
to
the
person
to
the
to
the
resident
I
could
have
done
more
than
more
in
that
visit
than.
A
C
A
You
mean
like
that
educationally
like
what
this
is.
What
is
required
that
we
want
from
you-
and
here
is
the
list
of
species
that
we
think
we
would
want
this
one
would
probably
be
really
good,
and
a
lot
of
that
could
probably
be
also
in
a
brochure
that
you
leave,
because
a
lot
of
people
won't
listen
but
they'll
read
later
and
then
it
will
go
together.
Yeah
make
a
terrible
mistake.
C
No
I
I
definitely
agree
that
it
could
be
streamlined
there.
There
are
things
that
have
to
happen
like
in
addition
to
you
know.
Listening
to
the
neighbors,
you
also
have
to
look
at
what
trees
are
in
the
neighborhood,
so
you're
ensuring
diversity,
at
least
for
me.
There
are
some
really
interesting
problem
areas
like
the
one
with
the
you
know:
the
drainage,
the
sewer
issues
where
I
had
to
do
a
lot
of
research
on
the
types
of
trees
that
don't
actually
have
roots
that
would
interfere.
C
So,
for
example,
that
was
the
Golden
Rain
tree-
it's
not
a
native,
but
it's
a
really
good
tree
for
what
they
wanted.
So
yeah
I
think
that
we
could
have
like
maybe
a
menu
of
trees
that
we
could
recommend.
But
in
a
lot
of
these
neighborhoods
you
have
a
lot
of
weird
issues:
stumps
utilities
compacted
ground,
just
really
unusual
things,
and
then
people
who
don't
want
certain
attributes
in
trees
like
things
that
are
going
to
fall
off,
like
you
know,
pine,
cones
and
other
things,
but
Nancy
I
would
welcome
the
help.
You
know.
C
And
I
think
it's
all
a
learning
process.
We
just
didn't
know
what
it
was
going
to
be
like
I
convinced
myself,
it
was
going
to
be
like
no
problem.
This
is
going
to
go
smoothly
and
some
of
it
did
and
some
of
it
didn't
so
are
we
ready
or
or
oh,
okay,
sorry,
sorry,
so,
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
stay
tuned.
C
The
other
thing
is
is
that
we
did
get
money
from
the
voinovich
school
to
plant
in
the
riparian
project
and
so
now
we're
trying
to
maybe
get
some
money
to
plant
in
the
neighborhoods,
because
we
did
not
get
the
grant
this
round.
So
what
we're
hoping
is
maybe
to
do
a
GoFundMe
campaign,
but
I'm
still
waiting
on
the
city
to
figure
out.
If
they're
allowed
to
do
it
or
not
so
back.
D
Hello,
I
am
Eliana,
ballet
I
live
over
on
home
street
right
next
to
Athens
Public
Library
I
am
a
graduate
student
with
the
voyavich
school
as
part
of
Ohio
University
I
am
doing
a
master's
in
environmental
science
and
I
created
this
project
in
collaboration
with
my
two
classmates
for
my
community
sustainability,
Corps
David
lamp
and
my
news
cut
partial
I
am
so
sorry
I'm
having
a
hard
time
pronouncing
her
name.
D
It
will
be
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
though,
so
the
problem
that
we
were
that
we
were
presented
with
that
our
community
partner
shaytree,
wanted
us
to
help
solve
is
that
the
city
of
Athens
has
experienced
a
significant
decline
in
trees
over
the
last
few
decades,
due
to
aging
trees
and
disease.
To
address
this
loss.
D
So
these
were
the
pilot
areas,
primarily
we
targeted
Elmwood,
Place
and
Morris
Avenue.
However,
we
did
have
a
few
other
streets
that
we
ended
up
passing
by
where
homeowners
were
willing
to
speak
to
us,
namely
Home
Street.
D
So
the
reasons
for
these
streets
are
that
they
were
close
together.
This
allowed
us
to
get
a
overview
of
a
street
with
a
good
tree
canopy
and
a
street
with
a
moderate
canopy.
These
were
both
in
the
East
neighborhood,
one
of
the
two
planned
targeted
neighborhoods
for
the
shade
tree
commission
for
these
tree
plantings,
so
associated
with
trees,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know,
there
are
benefits
and
concerns.
Benefits
that
are
interested
in
Athens
are
trees
can
shape
both
individual
and
Collective
identity.
D
A
lot
of
times,
people
that
have
a
good
tree
can
be
on
their
street
or
a
tree
of
particular
interest
in
front
of
their
house
will
be
very
invested
in
that
tree.
It
sort
of
becomes
part
of
their
home.
They
can
represent
personal
values.
People
who
are
really
passionate
about
the
environment
might
be
really
really
happy
if
they
get
a
native
tree
out
in
front
of
their
home
or
even
down
the
street,
they
provide
physical
and
psychological
benefits
more.
D
They
encourage
more
vigorous
activity
by
encouraging
walking
in
the
neighborhoods
and
overall
Better
Health,
better
air
quality
and
better
social
interaction
by
if
you're,
getting
out
there
and
you're
walking
down
the
street
more
often
and
your
neighbors
are
doing
the
same.
You'll
have
a
better
connection
with
the
rest
of
your
neighborhood.
D
Of
course,
trees
are
also
very
visually
pleasing.
They
provide
shade,
make
the
outside
more
enjoyable
to
walk
in
they
lower
ambient
air
temperatures
in
the
summer
and,
of
course,
we
all
love
those
fall
colors
that
we
get
here
in
Southeast
Ohio.
We
also
love
those
spring
flowers.
Again,
they
really
get.
They
enhance
the
neighborhood
with
that
shade,
given
the
look
of
a
nice
green
space,
however,
there
are
also
again
concerns
attached
to
this.
D
The
primary
concerns
that
are
that
are
of
importance
in
Athens
are
maintenance
concerns
potential
damage
to
power
lines,
sidewalks
homes,
another
big
one
that
was
identified
when
we
were
going
door-to-door
was
falling,
leaves
and
just
general
debris,
especially
seeds,
and
in
certain
cases
they
can
cause
limited
visibility.
I'm
sure
we've
all
tried
to
pull
up
to
a
stop
sign.
D
You
just
can't
see
around
the
corner
because
the
person
who
lives
on
that
corner
doesn't
trim
their
bushes,
so
we
decided
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
a
survey
was
the
best
way
to
help
the
shade
tree.
Commission
Target,
where
plant
these
trees
and
which
kinds
of
trees
to
plant
and
also
just
identify
who
which
neighborhoods
and
which
individuals
are
most
interested
and
have
injuries
planted,
went
through
a
few
iterations
before
we
reached
its
current
form,
and
here
are
the
questions.
D
So
first
question
is
whether
or
not
people
felt
that
the
trees
in
their
neighborhood
city
right
away
was
adequate.
The
second
one
was
if
they
support
the
city
planning
trees
in
their
neighborhood
on
question.
Three
was
a
ranked
question
just
asking
people:
what
would
they
value
most
about
planting
trees
and
that's
just
options
like
they're
beautiful
they
provide
health
benefits,
provide
habitat
capture,
storm
water,
provide
Shea,
improve
air
quality,
and
we
also
had
to
write
an
option
in
case.
There
was
anything
that
anybody
wanted
to
add
on
that.
D
We
forgot
about
question
four
was
an
was
just
to
check
all
that
apply
how
they
wanted
the
city
to
prioritize
is
the
selection
of
trees.
Like
Dr
Malibu
mentioned,
we
may
want
to
provide
people
with
a
sort
of
menu
of
trees,
so
this
was
to
help
Gage.
D
What
should
I
guess
go
on
that
menu
question
five
was
the
last
targeted
content
question
and
it
was
just
asking
people
if
there
were
any
concerns
that
they
had
about
the
trees
that
covers
just
the
general
ones,
also
added
on
Wildlife
damage,
because
if
you
have
say
tree
that
drops
a
lot
of
fruit,
you
might
get
deer
which
we
all
have.
We
all
know
that
we
have
an
overpopulation
of
deer
in
Ohio.
D
So
when
the
especially
when
the
Bucks
show
up
in
the
fall,
they
can
cause
quite
a
bit
of
issues
and
then
questions.
Six
and
seven
were
just
optional
identified
information
to
help
us
understand
where
these
people
are
and
if
they
are
personally
interested
in
having
a
tree
on
their
property,
we
had
quite
a
few
people
provide
their
emails.
One
man
was
very,
very
excited
to
be
emailed
by
the
shade
tree
commission.
D
D
So
the
initial
data
we
got
12
pilot
responses
and
the
number
of
those
who
agreed
and
disagreed
to
any
degree
on
question
one
were
about
equal.
There
was
one
person
that
very
strongly
disagreed.
They
wanted
more
trees.
Interestingly
enough,
they
did
live
on
Elmwood,
which
has
been
identified
as
having
a
good
treat
canopy.
So
this
woman
very
much
was
of
the
opinion
that
you
can
never
have
too
many
trees
and
all
the
one
recipient
recipient
of
the
survey
expressed
desire
to
have
trees
planted
in
their
neighborhood.
D
This
woman
just
had
that.
Didn't
that
chose
to
Mark?
No.
On
that
second
question,
it
was
just
mostly
concerned
about
debris
and
sidewalk
damage
and
the
most
valued
aspects
of
trees
in
the
neighborhood
were
Beauty
habitat
services
such
as
providing
habitat
for
birds
or
food
for
caterpillars.
D
Things
like
that
shade,
shade
and
improved
air
quality
residents
expressed
the
desire
that
the
city
prioritized
trees,
that
provided
shade
supported
our
native
Wildlife
Aid
pollinators
and
our
native
to
eastern
North
America
and
the
biggest
Express
concern
by
a
wide
margin.
Ford
free
plantings
was
maintenance
concerns,
and
this
was
Loosely,
followed
by
a
property
and
sidewalk
damage
potential.
D
So,
in
addition
to
the
survey
responses,
we
spoke
to
one
gentleman
who
refused
the
survey
on
the
grounds
that
he
very
very
much
disliked
Street
trees.
However,
he
was
willing
to
speak
with
us
about
why
this
was
his
biggest
concern.
Was
debris
especially
acorns
and
leaves
from
the
oak
tree
in
front
of
his
home.
Others
who
are
positive
towards
trees,
did
Express
verbally
to
us
a
dislike
of
trees
that
produced
nuisance
seed
pods
such
as
sweet
gum.
D
So,
at
this
time,
based
on
those
pilot
results
are
recommendations
are
to
address
the
concerns
of
a
property
damage
clarify
any
maintenance.
Responsibility
is
to
avoid
any
misunderstandings
and
reluctance,
because
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
reluctance
for
trees
comes
from
is
people
being
really
fuzzy
on
what
they
are
supposed
to
do
to
their
tree.
D
Furthermore,
what
they're
allowed
to
do
to
their
tree,
because
they
really
don't
want
to
get
in
trouble,
but
also,
if
there's
a
very
big
problem,
limb,
that's
about
to
fall
in
their
house,
they
sometimes
don't
know
who
to
call
and
finally,
to
emphasize
the
positives
of
trees,
with
a
focus
on
the
benefits,
most
favorite
recipient
participants,
so
for
averting
concerns.
We
very
strongly
recommend
to
clarify
the
maintenance
responsibilities
clarify
to
Residents
that
trees
will
be
selected
for
infrastructure
and
Ma
and
to
Abate
concerns
about
sidewalk
damage
or
damaged
power
lines
where
right
away.
D
Space
is
limited,
avoid
trees
with
a
larger
trunk
diameter
and
or
Surface
Roots,
so
avoid
things
like
large,
Oaks
or
bald
cypress,
which,
if
you've
ever
seen
a
bald
cypress
in
its
natural
habitat.
It
sends
up
all
those
big
knobs
of
wood
which
can
really
mess
up
the
sidewalk
and
select
trees
that
have
a
lower
potential
for
nuisance
debris.
D
The
people
love
the
trees
that
are
in
their
neighborhood
and
in
front
of
their
house,
so
the
biggest
hurdle
has
already
been
overcome
by
the
shade
tree
commission
and
that
is
reaching
out
and
allowing
for
Resident
input
if
you
allow
people
to
choose
their
tree
and
have
input
on
what
trees
go
in
their
neighborhood
they're
going
to
be
much
more
invested
in
that
tree's
health
once
the
survey
results
come
in
this
these
second,
the
second
bullet
point
may
change
a
little
bit,
but
as
of
right
now,
just
general
is
Market
towards
the
positive
favor
by
the
survey
as
of
right.
D
Now,
that's
Beauty
those
flowers
and
those
fall.
Colors
large,
shade
trees,
where
possible
and
native
trees
were
possible.
Again,
as
has
been
mentioned,
there
is
a
bit
of
a
concern
with
compacted
soil
in
places
where
our
natives
may
not
do
so
well
and
in
certain
spaces,
where
you
only
have
a
few
feet
of
land,
you
definitely
want
to
avoid
those
large
shade
trees,
but
where
there
is
a
nice
big
strip,
you
do
definitely
want
to
factor
in
possible
large
shade
trees
other
than
that
focus
on
the
habitat
Services.
D
One
of
the
biggest
verbally
expressed
positives
to
us
was
bird
watching
lots
of
people
really
like
birds,
and
they
know
that,
there's
that
connection
the
more
trees
you
have,
the
more
birds
you
have
and
finally,
just
focus
on
those
health
benefits,
focus
on
ambient
temperature
and
the
air
quality.
D
So
next
steps
I
have
a
water
distribution
of
the
survey,
with
a
focus
on
East
and
Far
East
neighborhoods,
where
the
canopy
has
already
been
degraded,
promote
this
in
local
businesses,
neighborhood
Facebook
groups,
Etc
and
implementation
of
providing
marketing
strategy,
marketing
strategies
with
adjustment
for
what
the
final
results
are
and
here's
the
contact
information
of
myself
and
my
classmates.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
G
Guys
do
you
have
what
you
need,
or
are
you
willing
to
put
it
together
yourself,
but
the
information
that
you
could
use
to
Market.
D
She'll
send
it
to
me
yeah
one
final
next
week:
I
can
definitely
get
that
sent
over
to
her.
So.
G
I
really
I've.
Always
it's
been
my
thought
that
the
main
thing
is
people
who
don't
realize
the
real
positives
that
trees
have
in
their
neighborhood
and
only
think
of
the
of
the
difficulties
of
the
leaves
falling
and
ranking
and
stuff.
So
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
service
if
we
can
get
that
started.
C
D
What
was
interesting
is
that
most
of
the
agrees
were
on
Elmwood
and
a
lot
of
the
dis
or
sorry.
Most
of
the
disagrees
were
on
Elmwood
and
a
lot
of
the
agrees
were
on
Morris,
which
was
kind
of
counter-intuitive
to
what
we
expected.
C
Well,
I
I
think
that
that
it,
that
that
is
really
interesting
is
yeah.
We
have
to
sell
the
benefits
of
the
trees,
but
I
also
think
that
the
neighbors
have
a
point.
I
mean
imagine
living
in
a
place
where,
regretfully,
the
city
hasn't
had
the
funds
to
remove
trees,
to
remove
stumps,
to
maintain
trees
properly
and
to
fix
sidewalks
and
all
you're.
Seeing
are
basically
the
detriments
to
these
trees.
C
So
I
think
that,
along
with
having
you
know
a
program
that
replaces
trees,
it's
really
important
that
we
also
work
with
the
city
to
ensure
that
they
have
the
budget
to
maintain
those
trees
and
to
maintain
the
infrastructure.
Otherwise
you're
going
to
be
planting
trees
that
are
eventually
going
to
be
seen
as
a
nuisance
and
you're
going
to
have
an
issue.
G
G
E
C
Being
maintained,
yeah
and
I
talked
to
Andrew,
and
he
is
trying
desperately
to
set
aside
budgets
not
only
for
pruning,
but
also
for
stump
removal,
which
will
be
the
first
time
they're
trying
to
make
it
a
policy
now
that
when
they
remove
a
tree,
they
remove
the
stump.
If
there's
good
potential,
that
a
tree
can.
G
C
B
Say
it
too,
at
the
end,
but
I
had
a
question.
Can
you
advance
it
when
there's
one
question,
I
wasn't
I'm,
not
sure
which
one
it
was
yeah.
Stop
there
a
minute.
B
I
guess
so
this
one
and
then
the
next
one,
it's
like
what
are
the
good
things
and
what
are
the
bad
things?
Do
you
are
you
able
to
say
the
relative
rankings
of
them?
Did
you
say
Okay
you
identified
these
Pros,
you
identified
these
cons
and
do
you
put
them
on
a
scale
which
one
yeah.
D
Are
you
way
more
so
four
question?
Four,
the
items
that
were
selected
most
I
think
it
was
either
top
three
or
top
four
or
roughly
equal
in
a
ranking.
However,
with
the
cons
maintenance
was,
man
was
checked,
much
more
off
was
twice
as
often
as
the
next
two
I.
B
A
B
A
Of
yeah
I
agree,
I
I
think
that
being
able
to
identify
those,
the
the
number
one
two
and
three
of
them,
the
issues
I
think
that
that
would
help.
C
Everybody
so
so
now
the
question
becomes
so
we
have
a
survey.
It
can
easily
be
taken
online.
It
the
reason
why
I
asked
the
students
to
take
it
out
into
the
Community
First
was
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
no
one
tripped
up
over
what
we
were
asked
actually
asking
it's
amazing
how
many
times
it's
straight
in
your
head
and
then
you
go
and
you
ask
a
question
they're
like
what
the
heck
are
you
talking
about
what
you're
supposed
to
do
yeah?
C
So
you
know
it
was
a
good
dress,
rehearsal,
I,
I,
don't
know
if
we
had
any
fundamental
flaws.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
enhance
the
survey,
and
perhaps
we
should
at
this
point,
do
we
want
to
proceed
with
having
more
respondents,
and
so
my
question
I
think
to
you
now
is
you
did
this?
You
were
with
the
the
individuals.
Do
you
see
specific
value
in
a
person
being
there
and
asking
the
questions
because
you're
getting
additional
feedback,
or
do
you
think
that
they're
is
sufficient
value
in
maybe
just
getting
numbers
at
this
point.
D
So
I
definitely
see
value
in
both
just
getting.
The
straight
numbers
obviously
increases
the
volume
of
responses
you'll
have
because,
if
somebody's
not
home,
then
go
in
door-to-door
ends
up
not
reaching
out
to
them.
D
However,
as
we
mentioned
here,
those
in-person
conversations
ended
up,
yielding
some
new
light
on
things
that
we
that
weren't
brought
up
in
the
survey.
For
example,
the
one
gentleman
who
refused
the
survey
did
give
us
valuable
Insight,
along
with
the
one
gentleman
that
was
very
positive
towards
trees.
That
said,
I
will
take
it
if
you
promise
not
to
plant
sweet
gum,
so
that
really
shed
light,
even
though
degrees
in
general
Leaf
litter
may
not
be
as
big
of
a
concern.
D
However,
it
does
shed
light
on
what
types
of
trees
to
put
on
that
menu
so
to
speak.
D
I
do
think
so,
because
people
were
we're
also
able
to
ask
clarifying
questions.
For
example,
a
few
people
ask
what
do
you
mean
by
Wildlife
damage
and
we
were
able
to
clarify
that.
A
What
is
your,
what
does
the
sample
look
like
that?
You
have:
what
are
their
ages.
D
So
Ages
were
ages.
Yeah
Ages
were
very
varied
right.
D
Not
so
most
of
the
people
did
Express
that
they
did
own
their
home.
We
did
also
have
a
few
renters
tickets.
They
ended
up
not
providing
their
email,
but
still
very
much
wanted
to
make
their
voice
heard
did
was.
A
There
any
owners,
rental
owners
that
you
approach
with
this-
oh
no,
we
did
not
have
a
chance
to
do
that.
My
concern
is
when
you
get
one
or
two
people
who
are
very
vocal,
that
really
skews
the
the
whole
thing,
I
kind
of
know
who
the
gentleman
is
and
he's
always
like
this
so
well.
No,
this
the
thing
is,
is
that
you
know
it's
kind
of
been
seen
that
older,
older
people
are
more
concerned
about
gum,
trees
and
stuff
and
those
sort
of
issues
than
younger
renters
sort
of
thing.
D
A
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
ways
for
it
and
expand
this.
We
can.
Let
people
know
that
the
surveys
out
there
and
such
I
think
that
the
pedestrian,
the
new
The
Pedestrian
survey,
that
they
just
put
out
was
an
awesome
example
that
you
can
get
700
respondents
coming
back
on
an
email
sort
of
thing,
so
I
think
that
maybe
going
forward
just
kind
of
looking
at
those
different
ways
of
approaching
people
or
identification
of
these
are
the
areas
that
maybe
we
didn't
hit
and
that
might
need
to
be
hit
later.
C
The
day
I
would
agree
with
that,
but
you
know
in
terms
of
700
respondents
out
of
a
city,
that's
20,
000.,
that's
not
representative,
and
that's
something
that
we
have
to
understand.
This
is
that
this
survey
isn't
going
to
be
representative.
40
respondents
is
minimum
for
for
representation,
and
so
then
the
question
becomes.
C
Is
this
a
survey
where
we
know
it's
always
going
to
be
pilot
data
guiding
data
biased?
But
we
try
and
handle
that
with.
You
know,
including
like
the
demographic
information
for
sure,
or
do
we
continue
to
go
to
door
to
door
and
actually
do
more
of
a
qualitative
study
where
it's
never
going
to
be
generalizable,
but
you
can
do
more
in
depth
and
from
what
I'm
hearing
from
you,
it
sounds
like
you,
you
got
benefit
from
both
you
got
benefit
from
understanding
and
being
able
to.
C
You
know,
do
the
rankings
on
the
responses,
but
at
the
same
time
some
of
the
in-depth
answers
were
really
informative,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
think
about
what
it
how
we
decide
to
move
forward.
But
it's
been
really
helpful.
You
know
you
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
and
I
know
you
guys
pushed
at
the
end
of
the
semester
to
get
out
there
and
you
were
only
able
to
do
two
streets,
but
I
think
that
the
reason
why
now
we're
grilling
you
a
little
bit
is
because
you've
demonstrated.
This
is
interesting.
B
B
A
Think
what
what
it
needs
to
do
when
we
start
putting
together
piecing
our
plan,
our
overall
City
shade
tree
plan
that
this
information
will
go
in,
because
this
presents
a
snapshot
of
the
current
conditions
that
are
right
now
with
the
people
that
you
talk
to
I.
Think
that,
to
certain
degrees
that
what
we
hear
from
scuttlebutt
and
stuff
that
that
you
are
on
the
track
of
the
right
track,
you
know
sort
of
thing,
I,
think
that
having
information
always
helps
when
you
have
to
go
and
say
we
need
money.
A
C
C
We
know
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
address.
Yes,
we
understand
maintenance
has
been
an
issue.
This
is
what
the
city
is
prepared
to
do.
This
is
what
we're
expecting
you
to
do
when
we
figure
out
the
inventory
of
trees.
We
know
that
people
are
already
leaning
towards
natives,
which
is
great,
so
we
can
also
lean
that
way.
I
actually
worry
about
almost
the
opposite
problem.
C
You
know
when
I
had
to
go
to
the
homeowner
and
they
really
wanted
Maples
on
their
property
and
I
had
and
or
a
native
and
I
had
to
say
due
to
the
compaction
due
to
the
utilities.
Due
to
everything
you
have
I
can't.
Think
of,
and
I
spoke
to
Ann
Bonner
about
this.
We
could
not
come
up
with
a
native
that
was
going
to
work
on
her
property,
and
that
was
the
Golden
Rain
tree,
and
so,
if
anything,
we
also
have
to
teach
people.
You
know
how
do
we
select
trees
and
I?
C
Think
that
that
these
kind
of
answers
sort
of
will
guide
us
it?
Will
it
will
give
us
an
idea
of
what
is
their
tree?
Literacy
I
really
didn't
know
what
to
expect
on
that,
and
it
seems
like
it's
actually
pretty
high
I
was
I
was
pretty
proud.
You
know
not.
Everybody
wants
a
tree,
but
they
know
why
they
don't
want
a
journey,
and-
and
so
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
out
of
this
does
that
help.
B
G
So
but
I
had
the
feeling
right
now.
It
would
be
good
for
us
to
get
numbers
and
also
to
get
well.
C
C
C
G
C
F
I
said,
I
have
more
of
a
comment
really
and
just
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
how
much
I
appreciate
you
putting
in
all
the
time
and
effort
on
this.
Any
kind
of
volunteer
work
is
always
incredibly
appreciated.
I
know
it's
for
school,
but
you're
still.
This
is
your
time
that
you
could
be
spending
doing
something
else
and
you're
choosing
to
try
and
work
on
a
project
that
has
a
real,
tangible,
positive
effect
for
the
city
of
Athens
and
I.
As
a
member
of
city
council
I,
just
I
really
appreciate
that.
F
C
A
Okay,
any
other
presentations
or
anything,
no
okay.
Before
we
take
a
vote
to
adjourn,
I
would
like
to
actually
say
thank
you,
because
one
of
our
our
members
is
leaving
us
because
she
has.
She
has
visions
of
going
on
traveling
and
retirement
sort
of
things.
A
I
just
want
to
say
how
much
I
appreciate
you
so
much
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done,
especially
on
that
on
the
grant.
That
was
a
monster
and
I
just
really
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
well.
G
A
A
So
the
next
order
of
business
is
to
set
our
next
meeting,
which
will
be
in
January.
I
have
to
look
at
my
calendar.
I
may
not
be
here,
but
that's,
okay
are
any
of
us
going
to
be
here
so
before
the
break.
Thank.
A
Okay,
it's
the
12th,
the
12th
okay
I'll,
be
here
so
January
12th
is
the
next
meeting.
Okay
and
do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjour.
Yes,
thank
you.
Second,
yes,
thank
you
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye
and
bye.