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A
Good
evening
this
is
a
meeting
of
the
entire,
not
so
entire
Athens
city
council.
Tonight.
Our
topic
is
to
discuss
very
quickly
speed
bumps,
because
I
found
out
that,
although
I
knew
there
were
three
different
proposals
for
speed
bumps,
there
were
four
and
it
seems
like
in
the
past.
It
took
forever
in
a
day
to
get
speed
bumps
in,
but
and
now
all
of
a
sudden.
You
know
there's
a
possibility
they
could
get
in
more
quickly
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
the
different
groups
could
discuss
what
they
were
proposing.
A
I
talked
to
Michelle
trebled
and
she
will
not
be
here.
They
worked
very
hard
individually
and
took
speed,
meter
readings
and
that's
what
I
told
everyone
who
had
to
do
in
order
to
get
a
speed
bump.
But
apparently
there
will
be
some
relief
from
that
requirement,
but
we
do
have
the
bump
on
north
Congress
Street,
which,
incidentally,
Michelle
says,
needs
to
be
replaced
as
it's
falling
apart.
It.
A
It
the
temporary
bump
on
notice
they
would
also
like
to
have
a
traffic
calming
device
between
on
the
either
side
of
Island,
Park
and
they've
talked
about
it.
Distance
have
been
several
days
of
discussion
about
it.
Maybe
it's
been
on
the
table
for
a
year.
So
in
the
absence
of
an
ANA
person,
that's
the
first
one
I
knew
about,
and
when
we
were
on,
the
street
tour,
yeah
and
Stephanie
would
be
currently
owns.
A
The
property
and
I
was
actually
going
to
ask
the
city
owners
and
Stephanie
and
Sam
crawl
to
see
if
we
could
bump
on
either
side
of
the
park
to
slow
down
the
traffic
up
there.
You
know
as
an
option,
because
we
are
now
moving
in
ray
will
be
explaining
that
in
a
second
and
then
the
next
group
is
the
group
on
the
North
Hill
and
Stephanie
and
Kathy
yeah
yeah,
both
of
you
could
them.
Each
of
you
in
turn
could
get
up
and
talk
about
what
you
were
doing.
A
One
time
one
hand
one
side
of
the
street
was
one
group.
The
other
side
was
the
other
group
and
then
finally,
they
met
Lois,
Garrick
and
Stephanie.
I.
Think
we're
involved
in
one
and
then
in
the
middle
of
the
block.
We
had
a
different
person,
so
luckily,
I
found
out
you
were,
there
was
a
short
circuit,
so
I
was
happy
to
hear
that
the
short
circuit
is
that
Ray
has
a
different,
slightly
different
strategy,
maybe
beyond
forever
in
a
day
road
yeah
because
it
seemed
like
it
took
forever
the
last
time.
Okay.
A
A
D
A
D
Needed
it
will
be
used
at
North
may
also
the
stop
sign.
Yes,
it's
a
very
dangerous
place
because
there's
no
sidewalks
on
Highland
Avenue,
we
have
a
lot
of
children.
My
kids
grew
up
there,
they
survived
and
others
can
survive
too,
but
there
is
more
traffic
and
cars
do
drive
faster
and
are
it
more
I
think
you're
responsible
to
when
my
children
were
small,
just
as
you
see
more
car
seats
which
thank
heaven
I'm,
not
a
mother,
they
have
to
deal
with
all
these
car
seats
with
kids.
D
That's
a
sign
of
the
change
of
the
times
and
people's
their
responsibility
and
more
vehicles.
I
would
certainly
support
some
method
of
slowing
down
the
traffic
other
than
a
loud
voice
or
people
even
having
the
speed
machine
which
helps
on
a
short-term
basis.
It
certainly
makes
them
aware,
but
when
it's
gone
so
are
they
and
on
North
may
I've
been
working
down
there
enough
to
know
that
people
run
the
stop
sign
that
people
come
down
cable
lane
I,
don't
how
anybody
has
the
guts
come
down?
D
Cable
Lane,
fast
and
I've
heard
enough
of
the
stories
of
people
walking
down
that
way
and
being
afraid
that
they're
gonna
get
hit
and
certainly
there's
no
option
I
don't
to
our
children,
down
cabling
or
going
up
I.
Don't
go
that
way
myself
very
often
at
all
because
of
the
narrowness
of
the
road.
Although
everybody
says
it'd
be
shorter
to
get
home
that
way
and
then
I
think
is
about
the
best
input.
I
could
say:
I
think
the
speed
bump
on
North
Congress
has
been
effective.
D
A
Those
areas,
ok
and
then
what
about
you
and
Lois
have
coalesced
with
the
other
group.
Who
knows
this
one
well.
D
I
think
she's
primarily
took
it
over
cuz
Lois
did
talk
to
me.
I
was
down
to
one
day
and
she
sort
of
crowd
me
and
Handerson
about
what
she
was
trying
to
do,
because
she'd
about
gotten
forced
off
the
road
she
had
to
jump
off
the
road.
She
said
in
a
bed
of
poison
ivy
that
had
not
have
been
thank
heaven.
It
wasn't
me
because
I
would
have
been
covered
with
it
and
said
that
you
know
she
thought
she
was
gonna,
get
hit.
Mm-Hmm.
E
F
Katie
Carruth
and
I'm
35,
cable-
and
this
has
come
about
because
of
all
the
construction
on
cable
Lane.
We
finally
feel
like
maybe
it's
the
perfect
opportunity
to
instill
a
bit
of
safety
measures
on
a
road
that,
as
I
understand,
would
not
be
built
today.
It's
extremely
narrow,
very,
very
steep
and
has
a
way
too
much
traffic
on
it
and
it's
not
local
traffic.
It's
tricky
to
cut
through
it's
a
cut
through
for
a
state
park
and
for
many
people
that
live
outside
of
Athens
City.
F
What
we
have
done
is
petitioned
all
the
neighbors
on
strout's
run
the
short
part
of
Strauss
run.
The
thing
is
on
this
side:
I,
guess
of
the
way
and
on
cable
lane
we
have
only
had
one
negative
comments
and
it's
from
a
person
that
owns
a
sports
car
that
doesn't
feel
like
they
would
like
to
go
over
a
speed
bump
in
their
car
and
but
other
than
that.
F
Everybody
seems
very
positive
that
this
is
something
that
that
is
a
safety
measure
that
does
not
hurt
anybody's
quality
of
life
and,
in
fact,
could
perhaps
protect
somebody's
life.
So,
though,
maybe
no
one
really
likes
to
drive
over
speed
bumps,
it
really
doesn't
affect
your
life
in
any
negative
way.
So
what
we
have
here
are
four
pages
of
signatures.
F
It
is
it's
a
wide
bump
so
that
it
wouldn't
itself
cause
an
accident.
So
that's
really
I'm
sort
of
telling
you
what
people
have
told
me
and
everyone
on
cable
Lane
is
a
very,
very
concern.
There's
a
few
children
on
the
street
and
and
yeah
it's
just
a
small
thing
that
can
make
a
pretty
big
impact
in
the
safety
of
our
neighborhood.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
have
to
get
up
and
say,
give
your
name
and
your
address.
G
I'm
Frank,
Myers
and
Laureen
and
I
live
at
43,
Stroud's
Run
Road.
If
we
really
want
people
to
come
to
our
house,
we
tell
them
to
think
of
forty
three
cable
Lane
because
after
they
cut
Stroud's
Run
Road
off
for
the
bypass,
it
really
looks
like
we're
part
of
cable
lane,
but
we
use
cable
Lane
a
lot.
It's
frequently
much
shorter
for
us
to
get
to
the
places
we're
going
like
the
post
office
or
even
downtown.
G
E
G
G
A
little
longer,
the
cable
Lane
is
rough
enough
now,
so
that
I
usually
travel
about
10
or
15
miles
an
hour,
not
because
that's
the
speed
limit,
but
because
it
just
no
fun
if
you
hit
a
bump
real
hard
and
soul.
If
we
make
it
nice
and
smooth
and
then
put
a
few
speed
bumps
there,
I
really
can't
see
how
anybody
could
notice
much
of
a
difference.
G
G
20
years
ago
we
used
to
walk
down
cable
Lane,
to
number
35
to
pick
up
trash
and
along
the
sides
of
the
road,
and
we
just
liked
the
way
it
looked
a
lot
better
for
our
own
taste
and
we
collect
several
large
garbage
bags
full
of
trash
in
a
day
or
two,
and
then
we
probably
wouldn't
do
that
again
for
a
month
or
two.
It's
been
years
since
we've
done
that,
because
walking
on
cable
Lane
is
just
too
much
excitement
for
me.
G
G
H
H
If
not
the
most
picturesque
and
people
walk
it
cycle
it
every
single
day
of
the
week
and
every
single
day
of
the
week,
people
almost
get
into
accidents,
we've
been
run
off,
the
road
neighbors
have
been
run
off
the
road
and
we've
had
to
call
the
police
about
the
police
driving
too
quickly
down
cable
Lane
when,
when
on
our
part
of
the
hill,
unfortunately
it's
it's
the
steepest
and
I
guess
the
riskiest
part
of
the
hill.
It's
a
20
mile,
an
hour,
speed
limit
and
the
police
say.
H
Well,
we
can't
we
can't
come
up
there
and
run
radar
guns,
because
it's
too
windy
and
there
isn't
enough
distance,
etc,
etc,
but
they
say
to
us:
well
how
quickly
do
you
think
the
cars
go
down
the
hill?
And
we
say
you
drive
down
the
hill
at
40
miles
an
hour.
We
estimate
there's
something
wrong.
There's
a
serious
problem
and
before
long
somebody
is
going
to
get
injured,
somebody
is
going
to
get
killed
and
God
forbid.
If
that's
my
children,
I
have
a
three-year-old
in
the
one-year-old
we
walk
up
and
down
the
hill
regularly.
H
H
A
Anymore
from
that
particular
area,
I
think
there's
a
discussion
because
we
have
a
fourth
area
where
there's
a
request
for
speed
bombs
for
that
North
Area
from
strods
run
two
routes,
one
Road
from
the
stop
sign
all
the
way
around
by
David
resource
house
and
the
other
houses
there
by
the
Myers
house
and
then
down
the
hill.
So
that's
an
area
where
traffic
calming
devices,
especially
speed
bumps,
are
requested
anybody
else
from
that
area.
It
wants
to
speak.
Oh
okay,
we've
got
her
to
do
it.
Go
ahead.
I
Warrior
20
cable
lane
I'm
on
down
where
it
becomes
a
straightaway
and
that's
where
they
really
pick
up
some
speed
and
they
just
fly
through
there
and
I
know
it's
challenging
to
go
25
miles
an
hour,
because
that
really
is
quite
slow,
especially
in
the
lower
areas,
but
up
at
the
top
you
should
not.
Is
it
20
or
25.
G
A
J
My
name
is
Chris
Paul
and
I
love
at
35,
Morris
and
I'm
co-chair
of
Nina
and
Nina
has
one
of
the
quality
of
life
issues
that
Nina
has
identified.
Nina
North,
the
near
East
neighborhood
associations
has
identified
is
that
the
neighborhood
has
been
inundated
by
people
who
have
a
hard
time
looking
at
the
speed
limit
and
in
regulating
their
speed
Cole,
you
coincide
with
their
speed
limit.
J
So
as
a
project
for
Nina,
we
put
together
a
Neighborhood
Association
traffic
neighborhood
study,
and
this
is
something
that
other
neighborhood
associations
I
would
really
encourage
to
do,
because
we
didn't
look
at
just
cable
lane
and
we
didn't
look
at
just
Morris
Avenue.
We
got
together
people
at
a
neighborhood.
J
J
Between
East,
State,
Street
and
Stroud's
run
I
mean
we
all
have
these
problems
and
then
there's
kind
of
that
number
of
the
speed
of
vehicles,
and
that
can
be
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
people
who
were
not
from
the
neighborhood,
so
you
have
to
look
at
at
traffic
calming
into
different
areas.
J
The
speed
traffic
speed
in
certain
parts
of
the
neighborhood
and
those
sort
of
things
which
the
city
can
do
very
quickly
and
very
cheaply,
and
then
we
identified
hazardous
traffic
conditions
and
prioritize
those
our
neighborhood
has
had
a
baby
boom,
just
in
Morris
Avenue,
between
where
our
house
is,
as
which
is
crossed,
jakers
downs,
porn
wealth.
Just
in
that
small
little
area,
there
are
17
school,
school-aged
children
and
they
range
from
you
know
about
two
on
up
to
junior
senior
high
school,
but
a
majority
of
them
are
going
to
East
school.
J
That's
the
same
in
several
other
areas
of
the
Near
East,
Side,
neighborhood
and
there's
a
problem
because
those
areas
they
have
stop
signs
and
crosswalks
people
ignore
people,
ignore
the
crosswalks
in
cycle
and
stop
signs
Wallace
and
Morris.
It's
an
accident
and
a
child
waiting
to
be
killed.
I
have
been
in
the
crosswalk
with
children
when
somebody
has
gone
through.
The
stop
sign
going
by
I
have
screamed
at
people
and
my
kids.
It's
really
funny
when
we
all
stand
there
and
you
know
seven-year-old
scream
slow
down
where
people
have
gone
through.
The
stop
sign.
J
H
J
J
What
we'd
like
to
see
people
talk
about
speed,
bumps
I
would
encourage
people
who
want
speed
calming
devices
to
call
them
speed,
humps,
because
speed
bumps
are
those
things
in
crosswalks
or
in
in
parking
lots
that
are
really
big.
There's
a
lot
of
really
innovative
programs
out
there
and
I
have
a
mic
traffic
plan.
The
draft
plan
that
we
put
together
for
Nina
has
several
internet
sites
that
shows
these
really
innovative
speed.
Humps
raised
crosswalks
raised
intersections
change
of
paving
that
all
go
to
slowing
down
people
and
and
telling
people
this
is.
J
Our
neighborhood
gateways
can
do
the
same
thing.
Putting
in
signs
that
say,
welcome
to
our
neighborhood
doing
constrictions,
changing
parking
patterns,
and
so
what
I
would
would
emphasize
is
that
council
and
and
Ray
needs
to
think
of
this
in
a
holistic
way,
so
that
we
can
start
a
process
of
making
the
whole
city
more
calm
with
traffic
and
encouraging
kind
of
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety,
and
what
we
would
like
to
see.
J
I'm,
Morris,
Avenue
and
Wallace
is
a
raised
sidewalk,
which
is
basically,
they
have
one
out
in
front
of
Baker
Center,
which
is
basically
a
big
giant
very
wide
speed
bump
with
a
sidewalk
printed
on
it
with
warning
signs
on
both
sides,
and
so
we
think
that
that
will
help
to
slow
down
the
speed
significantly
and
to
give
pedestrians
more
safety
area.
We
would
also
like
constrictors
on
two
sides
of
it,
which
is
where
you
build
out
sidewalks
and
kind
of
make
checkpoints.
J
We've
already
started
the
process
with
Andy
and
working
with
it
and
doing
a
holistic
process
and
a
program
to
try
to
address
these,
because
we
don't
want
to
shove
it
on
to
each
progressive,
Street
and
I
think
that
cable
Lane
could
be
and
kind
of
pulled
into
this
process
and
we'll
let
you
know
when
we
have
our
next
committee
meeting
and
we
can
look
at
this
and
then
maybe
make
this
a
model
for
the
rest
of
the
city.
Looking
at
some
of
the
other
issues.
J
1
raised
crosswalk
with
checkpoints
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
meet
with
anybody,
and
if
people
want
the
intern
draft
report,
they
can
email
me
on
that
fall.
Oh
you!
So
everybody
you
have
my
email,
so
I'm
more
than
happy
to
meet
with
people
and
talk
about
traffic
calming
and
that's
enough.
So
thank
you
and.
A
J
J
E
A
So
what
we
were
trying
to
do
tonight,
then,
is
to
pull
together
the
ideas
to
let
you
know
that
other
parts
of
the
city
people
have
some
of
the
same
issues
and
I
was
hoping
that
eventually
fairly
quickly
I
think
race
and
has
speeded
up.
It
has
streamlined
the
process
and
I
expect
to
see
that
we'll
be
talking
soon.
Unless
you
want
to
talk
today,.
C
Well,
in
terms
of
specifics,
what
Andy
and
I've
been
trying
to
work
towards
in
a
number
of
different
areas?
It
is
basically
establishing
a
process
because
we
have
these
same
issues
all
over
the
city.
C
So
it's
something
that
we
we
want
to
have
a
methodology
and
a
logic
and
a
rationale
in
place
so
that,
as
we
try
to
prioritize
and
put
into
effect
the
different
processes
and
different
methods
to
solve
these
problems,
because
there
there
are,
there
are
tons
of
different
methods
to
use
for
traffic
calming
it's
just
interesting
that
one
of
the
most
effective
usually
is
curvy
roads,
which
cable
lane
as
a
curvy
road,
but
no
to
make
a
long
story
short
I've
got
a
list
from
the
police
department.
I've
had
copies
of
information.
That's
come
to
me.
C
I've
received
information
from
Andy,
there's
stuff,
that's
been
in
the
file
from
prior
times
we've
got
to.
We
started
in
October
working
on
a
number
of
different
policies
and
procedures,
we're
also
looking
at
street
lighting
and
the
safety
in
the
neighborhood.
So
we
want
to
tie
all
of
these
these
issues
together
and
put
a
process
in
place
so
that
you
know
that
if
you
get
a
yes/no,
an
alternative
or
whatever
for
your
neighborhood
and
your
your
ideas,
that
there
was
a
process
and
you've
got
the
same
consideration
as
anybody
else
in
the
city.
C
So
that's
that's
my
big
concern
at
this
point
because
I
think
all
of
the
input
and
involvement
of
citizens
is
an
important
thing.
It
wouldn't
make
sense
for
us
to
go
out
and
put
a
lot
of
traffic
calming
devices
in
if
the
neighborhood
associations
and
or
the
people
who
live
on
that
Street
don't
want
it.
So
it's
important
to
know
that
it's
wanted.
You
know
and
those
that
moves
things
up
on
priority
lists.
C
You
know
we
all
know
how
the
system
works
and,
if
you're,
not
part
of
the
group,
that's
presenting
your
needs
before
the
the
city.
It's
not
likely
that
anybody's
going
to
hear
it
so
I
think
this
is
an
important
part
of
it.
So
we
do
want
to
work
with
you
and
Andy
is,
is
the
key
pivotal
person
I
depend.
E
C
Because
he
does
the
research
on
Ash
toe
and
ODOT
and
we
compare
notes-
you
know
I
do
a
little
bit
of
web
surfing
to
find
things
but
he's
the
engineer.
We
work
with
Burgess
in
nibel
to
talk
about
different
traffic
methodologies
to
be
put
in
place.
I
can't
tell
you
whether
it's
going
to
be
90
days
or
six
weeks
or
or
whatever
the
you
know
that
you're
going
to
get
an
answer,
but
you
will
get
an
answer.
A
C
A
You
all
for
coming.
We
appreciate
coming
telling
us
in
public
what
you'd
like
I
live
in
one
of
those
streets.
I
know
that
we've
had
the
speed
checks
and
twenty
five
miles,
an
hour's
to
speed
it's
supposed
to
be,
and
the
average
was
clocked
at
thirty
five,
and
you
know
that
means
that
they
were
going
close
to
maybe
eighty
five
and
a
70
zone.
You
know
I
mean
you
start
doing
their
proportions
and
you
can
see
the
problem.
So
people
don't
really
think
about
it.
A
B
The
west
side
has
the
same
type
of
stuff.
Just
before
I
got
came
here,
there
was
actually
a
message
on
my
machine.
The
owner
of
many
houses
on
foster,
place,
we'd
like
to
see
a
speed
bump
in
foster
place.
We
said:
if
anybody
knows
that
location,
it's
not
much
of
a
road,
so
the
petition
action
may
work
in
some
cases
and.
F
B
On
others,
there's
been
concerned
onset
ii
in
central
as
well,
which
is
cut
through
in
front
of
West
elementary
one
of
the
things
I
know,
I've
brought
up
to
any
stone,
while
back
was
the
idea
of
purchasing
more
of
those
Sam's
the
needed
speed
signs.
That
would
tell
you
how
fast
you're
going
there
one
we
have
now
is
at
least
ten
years
old,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
we
have
a
few
more
on
in
our
inventory.
So
we
get
placed
in
various
places.
B
At
least
they
have
the
action,
if
I
understand
to
record
the
speed,
as
well
as
to
tell
you
how
fast
you're
going
so
they
get
in
theory
to
an
active
calculation
of
how
the
average
speed
in
that
particular
Road
any
given
time,
even
though
he
would
slow
down,
show
that
that
would
be
one
easy
way
to
find
out
what
we
have
I
assume.
We
also
have
records
of
traffic
accidents
and
of
that
nature,
right
location,
and
that's
what
you
call
relating
to
we're.
B
C
And
essential
and
I
think
it's
important
as
we
as
we
try
to
deal
with
these
issues
to
recognize
as
we
use
traffic
calming
traffic
calming
is
also
traffic
discouraging.
So
if
you
can
slow
the
traffic
down
the
persons
who
want
to
speed
through
your
neighborhood
are
going
to
say
well,
I
don't
want
to
take
that
road
any
longer,
because
it
takes
me
an
extra
30
seconds
to
get
through
town,
so
I'm
gonna
find
another
route
and
it
falls
back
to
what
Chris
was.
A
E
A
E
A
A
Such
since
I've
over,
maybe
we
can
meet
on
it
next
week.
We
all
summer
I
hope
that
we're
buying
some
noise
leaders
a
noise
meter
right.
We
are
yes,
so
will
arm
the
citizens
and
they'll
be
dangerous.
Okay,
so
look
at
that
sometime
when
Wade
home,
as
you
can
see,
it's
a
work
in
progress
not
to
be
rushed.
It's
just
hard
to
get
through.
That
next
thing
is
some
25
central
I
just
wanted
to
update
you.
A
The
maximum
amount
needed
is
23,
5,
of
which
19
5
from
Athens
enhancement
and
4,000
from
CDBG
next
week.
We'll
talk
about
that.
That's
what
we
need
to
do.
It
I
talked
to
Debbie
about
it
and
they're
going
to
make
every
effort
to
get
three
bids
so
that
they
get
the
best
possible
price
on
updating
our
house
on
Central
Avenue,
but
even
so,
if
you
think
about
how
much
houses
are
selling
for
in
this
town,
good
up
a
good
upgrade
that
is
and
continuing
the
maintenance,
which
seems
key
as
well.
A
A
A
L
A
E
A
Then
the
other
thing
that
we
have
is
City
Planning
Commission,
where
we
are
going
to
ask
this
is
a
resolution
it
can
be
from
all
council
members
cuz,
that's
the
way
it's
written
required
spark
parking
places
for
rental
units
shall
be
provided
to
the
tenant
as
part
of
the
rental
fee.
The
land
thou
shalt
not
charge
a
separate
fee
for
the
required
spaces,
and
neither
the
landlord
nor
the
tenant
shall
be
permitted
to
sublease
these
rentals
to
parking
spaces
which
shall
be
allocated
exclusively
to
the
rental
units.
Okay,
is.
L
A
A
B
I
did
get
an
email
from
an
Amy
said.
She
wasn't
appear
essentially
the
only
thing
she
really
wanted
to
mention
where
actually
two
things
she's
talking
about
the
24-hour
parking
rule.
She
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
about
talk
about
hangtag,
some
more
than
that,
but
I
think
we
know
where
we
are
with
that
right.
B
Now,
we're
still
talking
about
a
one
hunting,
cetera
et
cetera
to
let
people
have
some
departure
the
longer
she
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
on
her
email,
where
the
requirement
for
us
lost
sight,
free
motor
parking
was
or
all
site
parking
was
required
for
landlords
or
rentals,
that's
from
97.
The
other
thing
she
was
talking
about
is
the
change
of
pricing
in
the
in-house
paving
I.
Think
you
sent
her
and
myself
a
spreadsheet
on
that
yeah.
C
C
C
B
A
B
A
B
C
E
K
B
N
E
N
Of
bricks,
existing
brick
streets
and
council,
discussing
the
possibility
of
adding
more
of
them
to
the
list
of
streets
that
we're
gonna
keep
brick
mm-hm
do
I.
Just
don't
want
us
to
forget
about
that.
This
kind
of
brought
that
back
to
the
forefront
and
I
I,
don't
know
if
we
had
a
sense
of
agreement
on
that
or
if
it
was
just
that
it
needs
to
be
an
agenda
item
yeah.
M
I,
don't
think
we
had
an
absolute
agreement.
I
mean
I,
agree,
but
I
think
that
part
of
the
the
scenario
to
is
Andy's
looking
at
in
the
neighborhood
who
wants
the
brick
to
stay
and
who
does
not
that
sort
of
thing
so
that
the
residents
have
a
say
on
their
small
on
some
of
the
smaller
streets
but
at
the
same
time
I
think.
Yes,
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
that
where
we
want
to
keep
them
and
perhaps
add
to
that
list.
B
I
would
have
to
agree
I
think
we
wanted
to
add
to
the
list.
I
know
there
was
a
cost
aspect
of
this
being
a
cost
more
than
maintain
the
bricks
or
redo
the
bricks.
I
know
the
fact
that
I
just
invoked
Fremont,
that's
one
of
the
ones
being
lost
I'm
going
to
hear
from
people.
In
my
ward
us
there
are
people
who
would
like
to
see
that
retained
as
brick.
I
know
it's
in
bad
shape.
B
We
took
a
tour
of
it
and
it's
sagging
badly
and
we
require
a
major
rebuild
but
again
I
know
you
know.
If
you
can
I
take
a
consensus
and
tell
you
is
I
think
it's
all
rentals
on
emphasis
of
perfect
the
people
who
live
in
the
periphery
and
you
have
to
look
and
say
if
we
start
taking
a
bricks
off
of
what
is
it
Elmont?
Is
it
Oh?
What
is
it.
A
A
A
M
E
D
N
N
Of
streets
that
are
not
in
that
resolution
area,
but
are
in
decent
condition,
and
then
there
was
a
list
of
streets
that
are
a
really
terrible
condition
that
would
be
Andy's
priorities
for
getting
the
breaks
up
and
paving
so
I
think
it
was
that
list
in
the
middle
that
we
were
going
to
talk
about.
Maybe.
E
C
C
Well,
that
the
brick
would
be
as
brick
would
be
a
sub
component
of
the
overall
plan,
but
reflected
of
what
we
want
to
do
with
the
bricks,
because
then,
when
you
come
back
through
for
the
second
cycle
in
theory,
if
you've
done
the
cycle
properly,
the
second
time
through
it
should
cost
even
with
inflation
factors,
it
should
cost
less
to
redo
it.
The
second
time
through,
assuming
that
your
time
factors
right.
C
B
The
concept
out
there
just
to
make
a
synopsis
of
this
is
that
we
would
cover
and
I
know
we're
not
all
in
agreement
on
this
in
terms
of
City
Council.
The
concept
is
that
you'd
get
a
tag,
maybe
one
tag
for
household,
and
this
would
allow
you
to
park
for
24
hours
on
the
street
or
longer
than
24
hours
on
the
street.
I
should
say
some
of
the
discussion
has
been
out
there,
that
if
you
have
a
curb
cut
for
a
driveway
and
you
have
wall
street
parking,
you
would
not
get
one.
L
B
The
other
systems
would
be
negotiable
in
terms
of
details.
I
look
at
this,
as
in
my
ward,
I
have
various
streets
that
have
know
very
little
off
street
parking.
So
therefore,
I,
look
at
my
ward
has
having
a
big
impact
on
this
I
know.
Nancy's
got
some
areas
like
Franklin
Grosvenor
that
have
the
same
conditions.
B
I
know,
there's
been
discussion
saying
this.
These
are
public
spaces.
On
the
other
hand,
I
would
like
to
see
us
be
more
pedestrian
friendly
and
therefore
the
idea
of
not
having
to
get
in
your
car
every
day.
These
are
the
concepts
who
have
been
talked
about.
Anybody
want
to
add
anything
to
it.
You're
welcome
to
terribly.
M
Well,
just
that
I
think
that
the
the
concept
that
we
could
start
out
with
trial
streets
that
are
not
the
worst
impacted
to
see
how
it
works
and
I
really
think
that
the
concept
works
well
with
the
idea
of
having
an
ordinance
that
says,
if
you've
got
off
street
parking
for
your
rental,
you
must
use
it
for
the
rental
that
partner
those
two
things
together
and
you
might
start
to
make
some
inroads
on
the
problem.
Okay,.
E
A
Acted
I
make
sure
that
we
are
absolutely
certain
that
the
people
want
it
on
the
streets
that
are
targeted.
You
know,
because
people
came
up
out
of
the
blue
with
streets
where
they
would
put
it
in,
and
I
asked
people
I
knew
on
the
streets
and
they
what
No
so
I
mean
I.
Think
you
need
some
volunteers
here:
okay,.
A
A
J
E
B
E
A
K
M
L
Before
we
went
to
the
24-hour
enforcement
I
counted
a
van
that
was
parked
in
front
of
my
car
at
170
State
for
36
days
in
a
row
that
someone
was
living
in.
If
someone
on
my
street
something
I
still
live,
there
had
a
hang
tag,
would
they
be
able
to
use
that
for
a
vehicle
like
that
and
use
it
as
a
rental.
B
B
L
Know
that
tell
you
right
now
from
what
I
just
heard.
The
parking
places
that
we
have
for
rentals
are
not
being
used
for
rentals.
Tell
me
how
the
Hang
tags
are.
Gonna
always
be
used
for
the
people
that
are
only
in
rentals
that
have
no
off
street
parking
and
they
can't
rent
it.
Give
it
to
the
roadie
I.
B
A
L
Aspects
of
remote
parking
and
fine
our
system
into
being
able
to
get
people
to
remove
parking
and
those
kind
of
things
that
I'm
not
too
sure
the
girls
I
have
a
few
of
the
streets
for
hangtags,
wouldn't
be
appropriate.
But
when
you're
talking
in
East,
8th
Street,
where
I
had
17
years
of
living
and
watching
people
carry
groceries
and
babies
up
steps
and
ice
when
these
systems
didn't
work,
it
was
a
serious
matter
when,
when
this
was
implemented,
so
I
do
kind
of
take
a
little
bit
of
ownership
in
where
we
got
to
I.
B
But
part
of
it,
part
of
the
rash
part
of
the
thing
was
happening
with
the
starch
parking
is
that
we
had
a
series
of
students,
basically
freshmen,
who
could
have
cars
on
campus
and
they
were
parking
their
cars
in
the
neighborhoods.
You
had
storage
parking
on
most
different
sort.
What
you're
talking
about
here
is
that
there's
a
tank
there's,
a
high
tech,
there's
gonna
be
a
everybody
who
doesn't
have
a
Hank.
It
has
some
good
cars
over
24
hours.
B
L
L
Was
draconian
and
ie,
but
that's
what
it
comes
down
to
I
mean
literally
to
get
that
hangtag.
Then
you
had
to
display
a
utility
in
your
name
at
that
address
and
then
on
the
Hang
tag.
Your
license
number
was
written
on
it
and
when
you
got
your
new
license
plate,
you
had
to
go.
Get
your
new
hangtag
and
the
new
number
got
written
in
so
I
mean
that's
what
it
takes
for
a
hang
tag
system
to
work
in
an
aerial
or
Park
humans
that
are
premium
so.
B
B
C
M
B
M
I
have
some
information
for
you
all.
This
is
a
report
that
pomos
we
put
together
about
spaces
in
the
parking
garage,
followed
by
a
copy
of
off-campus
rental
parking,
followed
by
a
document
that
went
out
to
local
businesses
to
obtain
their
feelings
about
the
concept
of
pink
eggs
in
the
parking
garage,
hunting,
license,
type
things
and
I
just
a
matter
of
correction.
G
E
M
This
is
right.
Current
research
is
85,
but
the
non
specific
where
you
just
drive
around
during
the
daytime
and
and
have
a
daytime
perfect
which
place
is
currently
60.
So
that
was
a
little
confusing
at
the
last
meeting.
So
I
just
wanted
to
pass
out
that
information
so
that
you
would
know
what's
going
on
and
at
this
time,
we're
really
waiting
for
some
input
back
from
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
in
terms
of
what
the
response
of
the
businesses
is
and
and
if
they
they
really
want
it
I
also
just
while
I
was
using
up
paper.
M
Major
copies
of
the
the
work
plan
for
ill
card
for
the
county
transportation
is
that
we
got
the
grant
for,
and
it's
now
been
awarded
specifically
to
ill
garden.
This
is
their
plan
and
just
ignore
the
fact
that
this
is
also
in
the
back
of
that.
It
just
happened
to
be
on
the
same
page,
so
you
ended
up
with
it
twice
and
I
think
that
all
I
have
for
transportation.
E
M
Okay,
the
first
thing
on
the
agenda
is
Halloween
and
just
points
of
information.
The
noise
ordinance
will
be
I
added
him
to
the
other
ordinances
next
week,
so
that
we
have
all
three
ordinances.
Plus
remember.
We
have
a
fourth,
because
we
added
the
new
glass
ordinance.
So
there
are
now
four
contracts.
Unimportant.
Four
ordinances
and
contracts
was
what
was
on
my
brain.
M
The
event
management
description
that
would
gingka
made
up
and
you
found
it
by
email,
and
so
it
just
made
a
copy
of
that
and
on
the
back
of
it,
is
sort
of
my
version,
which
changes
a
few
little
things.
But
I
heard
of
my
problem
is
that
I
personally,
don't
see
the
need
for
council
to
attack
or
to
have
a
resolution
with
this
as
a
part
of
it.
In
the
first
place,
council
really
did
not
have
to
approve
the
events
coordinator
position
that
could
have
been
done.
M
That
being
said,
I
did
put
this
together
to
kind
of
try
to
put
bullets
in
terms
of
what
we're
after
and
so
that
you
could
take
a
look
at
it,
and
certainly
this
can
be
passed
on
to
the
administration
or
handled
in
any
way
you
wish
to
handle
it,
but
it
could
just
be
turned
over
to
Ray.
He
will
be
the
person
that
will
be
hiring
this
position
if
we
vote
for
it.
M
M
This
is
very
simple
and
open
and
expresses
basically
what
what
we're
looking
for
and
I
see,
Jim
just
circled
the
five
months.
The
reason
I
put
the
five
months
is
because
it
would
not
possibly
start
August
September
October
November
middle
of
December
to
get
the
reports
in
and
be
ready
for
review.
That
was
why
I
put
two
five
months.
One
version
said
five
to
five
and
a
half
months
and
others
had
six
to
six
months,
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
five
was
the
maximum
that
we're
talking
about
Paul
I.
B
M
Agree
with
that
I
questioned
if
council
should
be
passing
something
to
bridge
between
councils.
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
I
didn't
jump
to
put
in
the
two
years,
and
certainly
the
administration
could
look
at
that
in
perspective.
My
concern
is
that
I've
sat
here
for
at
least
four
years,
I've
been
talking
about
Halloween
and
every
single
year.
It
comes
down
to
it's
too
late,
we're
not
doing
anything
I'm,
not
okay.
With
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
something.
M
Would
be
a
start
and
if
any
progress
is
made,
then
it
seems
to
me
that
we
could
look
at
the
model
and
say
Oh
something
Goods
happening
here,
and
the
next
council
could
move
forward
to
do
the
same
thing
next
year
or
the
administration
could
step
in
okay
comments,
questions,
suggestions
of
how
to
proceed.
I.
M
Much
I
I
made
a
few
little
language
changes.
I
D
emphasize
the
community
event,
not
because
I
don't
think
it
should
be
a
community
event,
but
I
to
insist
on
that.
It
implied
that
it
should
be
dramatically
changed
for
more
family-oriented.
You
know
that's
great
if
that
half
and
there
are
some
people
that
have
come
forward
with
some
ideas
and
actually
volunteered
time
to
get
those
events
going,
but
that
would
be.
That
would
be
a
plus,
not
necessarily
a
requirement.
B
M
I
did
not
because
again
that
was
one
of
those
questions
that
they,
the
Convention
and
Visitor's
Bureau,
said
they're
happy
to
house
the
position
and
give
some
assistance.
We
don't
have
to
mandate
that,
and
certainly,
if
Rey
welcomes
that
support.
That
would
be
great,
but
I
just
am
uncomfortable
with
the
level
of
our
mandating
and.
B
In
terms
of
you
know,
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
I'm
hearing,
of
course
you
know
getting
feedback
from
both
sides
that
you
know
good
money
after
bad
type
thing,
the
other
one
is
what
happens
if
there's
a
budget
requirement
to
run
something
like
this?
Do
we
have
a
we
have
a
salary
in
position?
Do
we
have
a
budget
and
just
gonna,
come
after
the
tourism
unit
fund?
What.
G
B
K
M
N
M
Do
it
I
actually
do
not
I
would
rather
just
give
it
to
the
administration
and
follow
through
with
the
ordinance
the
way
that
it
currently
reads.
I
put
this
together,
primarily
because
with
gingka
objected
that
I
had
not
included
it.
So
that
was
why
I
changed
its
form
a
little
bit
and
brought
it
back
to
you.
C
M
To
my
way
of
thinking,
the
fact
that
we
only
have
five
months
is
a
plus,
because,
obviously
it
isn't
going
to
be
hugely
changed
for
this
year
and
then,
if
we
see
the
direction
a
planner
is
going,
then
there's
the
opportunity
to
say:
okay,
we
like
this.
We
don't
like
this
and
perhaps
be
more
specific
yeah.
C
K
E
C
B
C
Secondarily,
would
cost
okay
for
a
good,
for
example,
is
the
current
location
of
the
stages
as
a
function
as
I
recall
our
conversations
among
Wayne
and
Jonathan,
and
some
of
the
others.
The
selection
of
putting
two
stages
that
far
ends
of
Court
Street
was
a
function
of
improving
tour
of
the
flow
of
the
crowd,
because
we
were
having
problems
with
the
crush
of
people
in
specific
spots.
So
by
putting
the
two
bands
out
there,
we
got
the
crowd
moving
in
two
different
directions.
C
Originally
we
had
vendors
in
the
center,
but
the
vendors
objected
to
that
because
they
felt
very
unsafe
in
the
middle
of
the
crowd.
So
then
we
move
vendors
to
either
end.
So
all
of
those
kinds
of
progressions
of
items
have
been
based
on
safety
and
it's
been
chronicled
and
documented
and
put
in
the
file
and
every
year
we
do
an
autopsy.
If
you
will
and
decide
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
tweak
it
for
the
next
year?
C
M
That
process
is
what
makes
me
feel
comfortable
with
the
administration,
basically
handling
this
contract,
and
that
there
is
a
process
in
what
we
would
need
to
do.
If
we
had
a
hired
planner
is
to
find
that
balance
of
how
that
person
works
with
the
administration.
Do
they
eventually
form
a
not-for-profit
and
handle
it
in
that
way
and
take
some
of
the
ownership
out
of
the
city
of
Athens?
That
would
be
a
possibility.
M
Do
they
push
it
more
and
more
towards
family
events
and
that
sort
of
thing
or
not?
You
know
those
sort
of
things
would
be
worked
on
with
the
combination
of
the
administration,
this
group
advisory
group
and
the
planner
and
whatever
volunteers
they
put
together.
So
it
would
be
a
very
collaborative
effort,
but
I
think
that
I
feel
that,
if
we're
ever
going
to
change
it
at
all
from
what
it
currently
is
and
ever
going
to
recover
any
of
the
taxpayers
funds
that
we
have
to
do
something
in
terms
of
more
specific
planning.
B
Agree
so
when
you
ask
for
guidance
really,
then
again
we're
still
coming
down
to
safety
and
then
and
then
money
safety,
first,
improving
the
safety.
If
we
hire
a
coordinator
for
my
point
view,
the
coordinator
is
going
to
be
there
to
say,
okay,
how
to
make
this
safer.
How
do
in
terms
of
you
know,
events
terms
of
coordinating
how
things
work
between
organizations
pulling
on
board,
maybe
more
more
safety
teams
from
other
sources.
B
I
know:
Ron
Lucas
comes
along
and
asked
the
neighborhood
associations
quite
regularly
for
safety
hit
team
members
and
'muslim
shrug
it
off,
but
the
same
time
there
are
other.
There
are
other
groups
out
there
that
could
be
approached
I.
Imagine
I'm,
not
sure
I
really
want
it
to
be
built
up
as
an
event.
You
know
again,
this
is
from
Beijing
cos.
Class
I
was
asking
the
questions.
What
makes
a
good
event
is
it?
You
know
what
makes
a
successful
event.
Are
we
up
to
30,000
60,000
hundred.
B
A
E
B
Of
a
the
you
know:
well,
we
spent
last
year,
I
know
where
they
spending
more
this
year,
but
the
question
is:
can
we
if
we
go
16,000
in,
will
we
be
getting
something
a
little
bit
less?
Will
we
be
doing
something
more
back?
Will
we
get
more
vendors?
Who
will
be
getting
more
so
I?
Guess
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
you.
C
Know
and
I'm
not
sure
that
this
will
happen
it
wouldn't
that
would
happen
particularly
this
year.
Mm
I
mean
it's
something
that
if
we
started,
if
we
start
now,
I
think
you
could
effectively
have
something
workable
in
place
a
year
from
October
and
some
basic
rudiments
of
what
you're
trying
to
work
towards
in
place.
C
This
October
I'm,
not
speaking
as
a
safety
service
person,
but
as
a
past
involvement
and
these
kinds
of
events
as
an
organizer,
because
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
coordination,
but
the
thing
the
key
thing
is
knowing
why
you
were
doing
what
you
are
doing
and
what
you're
going
to
attempt
to
accomplish
in
the
process,
and
my
focus
is
if
my
focus
is
on
safety.
This
person's
focus
has
to
be
on
raising
money.
C
B
Guess
I:
this
is
just
me
I'm.
Looking
at
and
saying
there,
this
person
is
supposed
to
be
building
resources
to
make
it
safer.
I
mean
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
what
I
hear
from
the
city.
Is
that
they're
pretty
much
tapped
out
when
it
comes
to
resources,
adding
more
layers
of
safety?
You
can't
do
more
in
terms
of
Halloween.
C
B
M
N
C
N
M
M
M
O
O
While
we
can
do
to
you
know,
ameliorate,
the
the
debt,
the
burden,
the
financial
burden
at
Halloween
presents
to
the
city,
but
I
would
instead,
when
you're,
considering
this
position
like
for
you
to
think
of
other
events
as
well,
such
as
Spring
Break
in
various
cities
in
Florida,
and
one
even
closer
to
home
bridge
day
in
West
Virginia,
where
the
tiny
little
burg
of
Fayetteville
closes
it
down.
With
the
cooperation
of
the
state,
tourism
department
closes
down
the
two
lanes
of
State
Route
19
over
the
New
River
Gorge
there
and
allows.
E
O
Parachutes
for
one
day
out
of
the
year
they
used
to
do
this.
This
was
a
spontaneous
thing
that
people
have
done
there
for
years
and
it
was
not
safe
and
it
caused
a
lot
of
accidents
and
a
lot
people
were
injured
if
you've
ever
been
to
that
event.
Now
it
is
literally
the
Christmas
for
that
community.
It's
an
extremely
positive
event.
It
brings
it
out
a
lot
of
vendors.
O
I
think
that
it
does
point
out
that
that
if
we
would
work
together
and
take
a
long-term
goal
or
objective
that
we
can
take
this
event,
that
we
now
see
as
a
burden
for
the
most
part
and
turn
it
into
something
that
is
very,
very
positive
for
a
much
broader
segment
of
the
community.
It
will,
as
Ray
has,
and
others
have
pointed
out,
take
a
great
deal
of
time
to
achieve
that
objective.
O
K
K
M
K
M
Don't
try
to
capture
them.
I
also
am
passing
around
an
ordinance
65
mm,
and
this
is
an
ordinance
that
we
passed
in
2000.
Allowing
alcohol
for
special
events
at
the
community
center
and
I
would
like
to
amend
this
ordinance
to
include
arts
west.
There
have
been
several
activities:
private
activities
that
have
asked
to
get
the
F
permits
for
wine
or
beer
at
our
twist,
and
so
I
would
like
to
introduce
this
amendment
next
week.
M
M
B
B
B
M
M
E
B
Okay,
then
last
the
next
one
is
not
the
last
venues.
Environment
Committee
I
just
wanted
to
inform
you
that
we
put
the
application
together
for
cool
cities,
the
mayor
and
myself
and
Andy
stone
with
the
contact
people
for
it,
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
application
actually
went
out
Debbie
did
it
the
application
for
cool
cities.
M
B
Well,
I
think
there's
not
much
really
to
talk
about.
We
did
a
resolution
on
it.
If
you
remember
and
said
we
wanted
to
join
again.
That
mayor
is
is
into
it
and
again
we're
trying
to
reduce
our
carbon
footprint
over
time,
so
I
think
we'll
be
putting
that
ahead
and
listen.
Buddy
has
any
other
commentary
they
weren't
put
on
it.
B
I'll
get
you
copies
of
it
if
that's
possible
just
so,
you
have
an
idea
as
well
as
a
website
unless
we're
asking
for
what
they're
asking
for
any
comments
on
that
the
other
miscellaneous
there
is
the
garbage
rates
which
I'll
let
ray
talk
about
a
little
bit,
but
this
is
a
spillover
of
communication
from
head
Newman
who
is
trying
to
get
people
to
recycle?
Yes,
people
recycle
in
some
of
the
fraternities
and
sororities
and
finding
out
they
weren't
being
charged
excessive
amounts.
B
C
Basically,
we
wouldn't
make
the
revisions
here
a
couple
of
years
ago,
the
highest
rate
category
we
considered
was
rooming
house
ten
and,
above
and
in
the
interim,
we've
gone
out
and
pulled
in
some
paternity
and
sorority
houses
that
weren't
part
of
the
city
system.
Prior
to
that
and
in
the
process
we've
now
our
rate
structure
kind
of
got
out
of
whack.
Some
of
them
are
paying.
K
C
B
C
You
gonna
be
doing
that
this
summer.
Yes,
we
have
a
walkthrough
scheduled
I,
think
it's
next
week,
okay
to
basically
walk
the
Uptown
talk
about
some
of
the
physical
issues.
Okay
got
one
a
retired
code
officer
coming
into
to
help
in
terms
of
Charlie
Miller.
Okay,
who
did
the
Uptown
area
for
a
number
of
years
to
help
in
terms
of
identifying
some
of
the
real
problem
areas
that
we've
had
so
I'll
give
him
some
background.
B
C
B
Me
what's
going
on
you're
racing,
okay,
Debbie,
first
I.
N
Was
about
the
proposed
change
that
you've
got
happening
here?
I,
don't
see
how
this
will
encourage
them
to
recycle,
because
it
looks
like
the
fee
level
is
based
on
the
number
of
occupants,
not
the
number
of
containers
that
they
produce.
So,
if
it's
based
on
the
number
of
occupants,
they
don't
save
any
money
by
producing
less
trash.
I.
A
C
Are
not
promoting
recycling
the
problem
that
we
have
with
fraternities
and
sororities
and
in
the
Uptown
area
there
they
fall
into
a
similar
category
dumpsters
in
the
Uptown
area.
You
cannot
identify
to
whom
belongs.
The
trash
I
spent
a
number
a
number
of
years
fighting
through
constant
battles
about
extra
yardage
on
dumpsters,
because
people
use
a
dumpster
as
almost
as
though
it's
a
community
trash
dump.
It's
it's
the
problem
that
we
have
with
the
trash
cans
on
Court
Street
multiplied
ten
times,
because
it's
not
that
visible.
C
It's
pretty
easy
to
walk
by
somebody's
dumpster
and
throw
extra
trash
in.
So
what
I'm?
What
I'm,
trying
to
over
a
period
of
time,
move
the
system
towards
its
first
getting
the
trash
off
the
streets
and
out
of
the
yards,
then
the
next
thing
that
might
we'll
be
working
on
is
improved
storage
of
the
trash
and
then
finally,
we'll
go
to.
C
Will
go
to
hopefully
I
can
convince
council
to
go
to
prepaid
bags
for
trash
and
that
will
apply
to
dumpster
customers
non
dumpster
customers,
Court
Street
customers,
residential
customers.
So
if
you
generate
the
trash
and
you
put
it
in
the
bag,
it
will
be
picked
up
and
that
eliminates
the
problem
of
the
persons
who
pay
for
the
dumpster
rent
having
to
pay
for
other
people's
trash
being
a
removable.
C
L
C
And
the
uptown
there's
a
real
challenge
call
the
uptown
is.
It
is
a
real
challenge,
because
if,
if
we
try
to
charge
the
persons
who
live
and
run
businesses
uptown
based
strictly
on
their
volume,
then
we
have
to
have
a
method
to
control
the
identification
of
the
trash.
I
know
that
sounds
ridiculous,
but
if
you're
going
to
have
a
pay
to
throw
system,
you
have
to
know
this
is
the
person
who
put
the
trash
out
and
that's
who
gets
charged
for
it.
No.
B
C
E
B
C
A
L
P
E
M
M
N
A
Right
now:
well,
it's
just
this
is
because
it's
edited
if
we
could
see
it
before
we
pass
it.
So
we
know
what
it
looks
like
it
would
be
easier.
I
think
it's
up,
you
know
basically
I
know
ed
Newman
talked
to
the
frat
boys
and
they
said,
but
how
many
of
them
actually
pay
the
bill
it's
paid
by
the
chapter
house
for
crying
out
loud.
They
don't
even
yes,.
K
C
B
B
E
A
E
B
E
B
A
A
E
C
Are
some
there
are
some
dumpsters
out
there
by
choice
of
the
the
property
owner
where
they
have
they're
paying
for
a
dumpster
through
the
city
and
there
and
they're,
not
in
a
required
area
like
like
down
Stewart,
Stewart,
Street
and
also
over
on
Elliott?
We
have
a
place
where
there
are
like
six
or
seven
houses
that
have
a
dumpster.
C
K
A
A
C
B
C
A
A
A
A
C
A
C
C
K
C
A
C
K
B
B
In
terms
of
the
hazardous
waste
pickup,
have
you
had
any
conversations
with
that
since
knocking
wasters?
Renewing
no
I
have
not
okay.
Maybe
we
should
get
together
and
start
talking
about
that
eventually,
and
that
will
require
the
can't
the
budget
of
the
garbage
as
well
as
always,
which
I'd
like
to
see
some
numbers
eventually,
I
guess
I
should
look
him
up.
No.
B
C
B
M
M
B
M
M
N
N
I
have
a
question
about
the
ordinance.
If
you're
looking
at
possible
amendments,
I
was
under
the
impression
the
last
time
we
amended
it
that
we
had
made
a
change
to
require
least
toxic
biological
substances
for
any,
like
pesticides,
herbicides
and
I
thought
that
applied
to
everything,
and
it
was
clear
in
the
presentation
that
it
does
not
apply
to
large
recreational
areas
and.
M
B
N
M
N
Planning
and
development.
The
first
thing
on
the
agenda
is
the
time
again
about
Shady
Lane
I,
don't
know
if
people
have
a
copy
of
this
that
that
Debbie
Walker
provided
to
me
I
guess
not
just
a
quick
reminder
about
what
has
been
going
on
with
Shady
Lane.
This
is
out
in
the
plains.
N
There
was
an
issue
where,
in
the
the
process
of
this
development
having
changed
hands
and
the
developers
not
I,
think
that
that
particular
partnership
ended
up
out
of
business
there's,
so
some
of
it
is
now
owned
by
the
bank.
Some
of
it
is
owned
by
individual
property
owners
and
the
road
is
in
disrepair.
The
bond
was
released
at
some
point
in
that
process
between
the
county
and
the
city.
You
know
dealing
with
this
development,
so
there
is
no
bond
on
the
road.
N
It
doesn't
have
houses
on
it.
The
price
tag,
the
the
estimate
that
we
have,
which
I
think
is
from
the
County
engineer's
office.
Yes,
is
a
total
of
twenty
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
and
sixty
dollars.
The
commissioners
are
going
to
be
going
out
and
looking
at
the
road
tomorrow,
they
would
like
to
hear
something
back
from
us
since
the
county
and
the
city
both
had
a
role
in
how
this
whole
thing
was
handled,
with
the
bond
being
released
and
we're
not
going
to
go
I
think
any.
E
N
B
N
B
E
L
Can't
yeah
better
here,
I
go
I
cannot
think
of
another
example
where
the
taxpayers
of
the
city
of
Athens
have
paid
for
a
road
improvement
outside
of
the
city
of
Athens.
Can
anyone
give
me
an
example
of
that
happening
so
I
guess
we
are
admitting
some
type
of
liability
that
we
think
we've
done
something
wrong
that
necessitates
us
paying
for
this?
Is
that
the
logic
I'm
hearing
here?
That's.
N
Not
the
way
that
the
conversation
seemed
to
be
proceeding,
it
was
more
looking
at
the
fact
that
this
problem
exists
and
all
you
know
everybody
involved
wants
to
find
a
way
to
solve
it.
I
don't
think
it
it
felt
at
all
like
somebody
was
saying
one
entity
or
another
is
at
fault
for
this.
It
was
more
of
a
problem
solving
now
that
we're
here.
How
do
we
get
through
it?
N
L
M
M
L
N
Garrity
son
Jerry
hunter
was
is
a
couple
of
those
meetings
and
did
seem
comfortable
with
the
idea
that
we
could
proceed
and
they'd
be
a
way
to
assess
the
property
owners
based
on
road
frontage,
yeah
and
I.
Think
that
the
county
is
interested
in
being
reimbursed
for
their
share
as
well.
They
don't
have
a
bunch
of
extra
money
to
fix
roads
that
are
publicly
accepted
roads
yet
so
and.
K
M
N
K
N
E
N
A
P
This
is
the
first
time
that
I've
seen
this
obviously
I've
seen
bits
and
pieces
of
it
within
the
comprehensive
plans.
So
you
know
I,
you
know
the
bones
of
it.
So
I
think
it's
important
and
W.
You
and
I
have
talked
about
this-
that
citizens,
both
citizens
and
developers
of
a
clearly
defined
process
to
go
forward
and
I,
think
you
know
the
chamber
and
that
vein
is
reconvening
a
working
group,
Steve,
Pearson
and
and
several
other
citizens
and
developers
by
mid
July.
P
You
may
have
received
the
email
to
review
the
outline
of
the
existing
process
in
general.
I
think
there
are
some
inconsistencies,
and
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
look
at
that
and
have
you
know
again
that
educational
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
fully
understand
how
the
process
works?
I
just
want
to
offer
that
if
there
is
an
opportunity
for
the
chamber
to
provide
input
into
this
or
for
businesses
to
write
input,
we
would
we
would
appreciate
that
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
planning
to
put
this
forward
at
the
next
meeting.
N
I
think
we're
ready
to
do
that.
We
did
have
at
the
local
government
affairs
committee
meeting
at
the
chamber
at
your
request.
We
had
a
meeting
around
the
table
to
go
through
this
in
pretty
extensive
detail
and
you
all
didn't
join
us
that
evening,
so
I
mean
I.
Think
if
you
want
to
take
this
back
and
and
people
need
to
go
through
it.
E
P
P
You
know
I
think
that,
without
going
into
it
and
great
details,
there
are
others
that
could
speak
better
to
this
than
I.
You
know,
obviously,
the
site
plan
review
concerns
that
we
hear
from
developers
the
cost
associated
with
you
know
up
front.
You
know
how
detailed
these
plans
need
to
be
in
the
beginning
without
any
hope
or
any.
You
know,
I
guess,
guarantee
of
being
able
to
move
forward
and
then
also
having
a
clear
idea
as
to
whether
or
not
the
the
guidelines
you
know
are
they
are
they
are
they
changing?
Are
you
know?
B
E
E
C
In
the
oh
three
rewrite
of
the
zoning
code:
okay,
but.
K
A
B
K
E
A
A
A
B
C
A
currently,
wherever,
wherever
we
see
that
happening,
you
know
we
currently
object
to
it.
I
mean
not
the
situation
that
we're
facing
in
one
section
of
town
here.
If
somebody
had
known
at
the
time
that
building
was
going
in,
but
they
were
putting
it
over
a
sanitary,
it
was
a
bad
decision.
We
wouldn't
do
that
now.
That's
against
our
standards.
Okay,.
B
B
C
K
C
N
A
C
A
C
N
Which
are
covered
under
title
21?
Maybe
it's
just
just
reference
where
Planned
Unit
development
SAR
are
in
the
code.
I
just
started,
then
I
think
if
there
is
any
inconsistency
between
these
requirements
and
the
requirements
for
our
Planned
Unit
development,
it
could
lead
to
confusion,
I,
I,
think
I'd
rather
say
Planned,
Unit
development,
SAR
covered
elsewhere.
N
A
A
L
E
N
Cycling
reviews
are
are
done
by
the
Planning
Commission
find
unit.
Developments
then
also
come
through
Council
and
are
subject
to
public
hearings
it
beyond
what
happens
at
the
Planning
Commission.
So
I
don't
think
this
is
meant
to
be
as
thorough
a
review
as
something
as
big
as
a
Planned
Unit
development.
N
It
is
a
more
thorough
review
than
we
currently
have
for
these
smaller
things,
but
I
would
like
the
4102
F
to
say,
applications
for
proposed
plan
unit
developments
which
are
reviewed
under
athens
city
code,
title
21,
so
just
to
make
it
clear
that
they're
reviewed
somewhere.
But
this
is
not
the
because
I
don't
want
to
set
up
any
conflicts
where
people
think
they
should
be
under
one
or
the
other.
We
should
be
choose
which
one.
A
I
I
guess
I
was
some
thinking
that
the
law
director
said
with
the
NCR
case
that
if
the
Planning
Commission
deemed
that
they
had
completed
lis
requirements
than
they
were
completed
so
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
I,
mean
I.
Think
your
solution
is
ideal,
but
I
I
think
that
there
is
that
out
that
point
out
there,
although
we
did
go
through
and
spend
a
lot
of
time,
as
we
all
recall
on
it,
mm-hmm.
A
I
guess
that
what
we
would
say
is
the
idea
behind
this
is
to
make
them
is
not
to
stop
anything,
because
that
wouldn't
be
something
we
would
do
it's
and
to
make
it
as
good
as
it
can
be.
Mm-Hmm
meeting
all
the
needs
and
all
the
demands
of
a
specific
area
which
I
think
up
maybe
would
apply
to
the
comments
that
Jennifer's
suggested
earlier.
I.
Think
people
shouldn't
see
efforts
at
the
efforts
that
we
make
is
trying
to
stop
anything.
Cuz
I,
don't
think,
we've
stopped
anything
well,
I,
guess
lately,
but
we.
N
A
Do
it
at
home
I
think
instead,
what
you
would
say
is
that
if
you're
gonna
build
something
here,
then
you
jolly
well
better
meet
the
needs
of
our
area
which
have
cited
site
plans
that
are
problematical
from
either
slope
or
or
floodplain,
and
you
have
to
take
care
of
the
negative
externalities.
You
can't
voice
them
off
on
someone
else
and
that's
fundamentally
what
this
is
trying
to
do.
So,
let's
get
it
going.
N
K
E
N
E
N
One
miscellaneous
is
just
a
reminder
that
we
should
I
think
we
have
a
public
hearing
scheduled
next
week
for
University
Estates
for
the
grand
Vista
village,
and
that
is
at
what
time
Debbie
at
seven
o'clock.
So
if
anyone
has
anything
they
want
to
share
with
us
about
that,
we
it's
my
understanding
that
the
one
thing
that
we
don't
have
from
them
yet
is
the
response
from
Burgess
and
Eiffel
about
the
soils
to,
and
they
know
that
we
need
to
have
that
pepper.
We
would
go
to
first
reading,
so
they
do.