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Basically,
they
recommend
that
there
should
be
a
review
process
in
place,
a
public
review
process
for
most
projects
that
come
forward
in
the
city.
Currently
we
do
have
a
very
public
review
process
for
subdivisions
and
for
Planned,
Unit
development
and
other
projects
go
through
an
administrative
review.
This
would
create
a
public
review
process.
So
that's
the
main
difference.
People
have
had
this
to
look
at
I
just
thought.
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But
this
is
the
recommendation
from
our
consultants
in
the
comprehensive
planning
process
from
the
steering
committee
from
the
Planning
Commission
and
approved
by
council,
so
there's
some
basic
purpose:
language,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
starting
there's
some
rationale
beforehand,
but
I'm,
just
starting
with
that
basic
purpose:
language,
basically
to
allow
more
orderly
process
for
developments
in
the
city
and
then
it
defines
which
projects
would
require
site
plan
review.
So
basically,
this
is
saying
everything,
except
for
the
things
that
are
exempted
below
and
any
expansions
alterations
or
change
of
use
would
require
cycling
review
as.
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Yeah,
it's
an
exemption
because
we're
down
to
exception
something
yep
yeah,
because
I
think
that,
in
the
are
three
districts,
those
three
family
residential
dwellings
are
of
a
magnitude
that
they
need
to
be
reviewed.
I,
think
their
impact
on
the
neighborhoods,
such
as
they
are,
was
substantial
and
the
review
that
we
have.
Although
it's
systematic
I
know,
Patrick
Rose
just
built
the
two
families
structure,
but
some
of
those
three
family
structures
and
Stewart's.
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I
think
you
know
the
way
that
this
is
drafted.
These
things
would
go
to
the
Planning
Commission.
Okay,
I
think
that
it
doesn't
change
anything
that
already
would
go
through
Planning,
Commission
and
council,
so
subdivisions
and
PDS
would
still
go
through
the
process
that
they
go
through
under
our
current
code.
This
would
be
a
more
public
review
of
things
that
BIA
traditionally
haven't
come
into
public
antenna
to.
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Yeah,
rather,
it's
process
to
look
at
it.
However,
people
so
I've
always
found
that
sevens
kind
of
interesting
people
could
certainly
attend
the
site
review
if
they
wanted
and
have,
and
and
express
some
dismay
or
feelings
against
a
project.
That's
the
purpose
of
the
site
memory
really
absolutely
so.
This
means
it's.
It's
not
does
not
represent
an
opportunity
for
people
objecting
to
it.
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But
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
that
that
beginning
section
before
the
purpose,
language
is
kind
of
a
framing
thing.
It's
not
part
of
the
language
and,
in
fact,
I
believe
the
Planning
Commission
could
approve
or
not
approve
a
plan
just
like
the
administration
could
approve
or
not
approve
a
zoning
permit.
Now
you
know
if
it's
not
appropriate
for
the
zone.
If
it
doesn't
meet
our
regulations,
people
get
told.
No,
you
can't
do
that,
so
it's
not
being
set
up
in
order
to
stop
things
it's
being
set
up
in
order
to
allow
more
orderly
planning.
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Planned
Unit
development
conditional
doesn't
even
apply
to
them
conditional
and
special
uses
I'm
assuming
that's,
because
those
would
go
to
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
and
PU
G's
go
through
their
own
process.
So
that's
if
we
take
out
references
to
three
family
and
if
we
ask
poco
Meyer
what
they're
talking
about
for
agriculture
and
horticulture,
we're?
Okay
with
the
exemptions,
okay,
okay
procedure,
I,
do
everyone
have
a
chance
to
read
through
this
home
meticulously.
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Copies
required,
along
with
the
application,
be
determined
by
ordinance
variances
that
I
had
a
question
about
when
variances
are
required.
Those
have
to
be
obtained
before
that
seems
strange
to
me
and
it
seems
to
be
different
from
the
way
like
currently
if
a
project
requires
variance
as
they
seek
those
variances
at
the
same
time,
they're
coming
through
for
their
approval.
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Talking
about
really
we're
in
such
a
case
where
the
tree
Commission
would
have
the
power
to
make
or
break
you
know,
to
grant
a
variance
or
to
make
a
stipulation,
whereas
our
tree
Commission
only
makes
recommendations,
I
mean
cuz.
We
did
prune
that
language
out
of
the
tree,
Commission,
maybe
at
all
disabilities.
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D
And
then
approve,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
is.
Somebody
has
to
say
this
has
to
go
to
pre,
commission,
okay,
Health
Department,
so
who
is
going
to
do
they
all
go
through
all
of
those?
Or
does
some
person
say?
Okay,
this
needs
to
go
to
trade
commission.
This
needs
to
go
to
health
department,
actually
I'm
talking
kind
of
about
bullet
to.
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Okay,
the
third
bullets.
Once
it's
been
found
to
be
complete,
it
goes
to
the
other
departments
review
the
plans
for
compliance
with
all
minimum
requirements
of
the
zoning
code
and
city
regulation.
The
departments
have
15
days
from
the
date
that
it
was
stamped
complete
to
send
a
written
report
back
to
the
building
and
zoning
inspector.
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The
Planning
Commission
shall
hold
a
hearing
and
approve
the
site
plan
based
on
a
determination
that
it's
in
compliance
with
all
minimum
requirements
or
shall
approve
it
subject
to
conditions,
modifications
and
restrictions
that
will
ensure
it's
in
compliance.
So
it
actually
doesn't
say
they'll
just
flat-out
say
it
can't
happen,
so
they.
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Because
I
do
if
a
developer
is
doing
that
and
building
something
on
the
site,
that
needs
either
pill
or
slope
change
and
they
go
to
an
engineer
and
they,
the
soils
engineer
said
this
is
what
you
need
to
do.
That's
a
license
to
engineer.
Do
we
accept
that
or
do
we
say
it's
got
to
be
our
engineer
and
make
them
pay
a
second
time
to
do
this?
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Not
sure
because
I
know,
Edwards
communities
submitted
their
stormwater
plans
and
they're
their
soil
engineering
stuff
for
the
soil
movement
that
they
plan
on
that
site
and
it
was
for
Dubai
Burgess
in
April,
and
we
have
a
long
letter
going
over
very
specific
things
like
you
show
a
certain
size,
diameter
pipe
here
and
your
stormwater
plan
and
this
diameter
here
and
you
need
to
tell
us
which
one
it
is.
So
we
can
do
the
calculations.
So
it
seems
like
we're
already
requiring
that.
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The
summit
at
coats
one
was
before
us:
we
got
a
copy
of
the
Burgess
and
ifill
review
where
they
said
it
looks
like
you're
cutting
out
the
toe
of
a
slope
that
involves
an
area.
That's
you
know
prone
to
that's,
what's
severe
to
profound
slip
potential,
can
you
and
we
don't
know
why?
You're
doing
that,
you
know.
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We
also
they
have
done
enough
work
in
the
area
they're
familiar
with
our
soil
types
and
all
the
all
the
different
issues
that
we
deal
with
in
the
community,
because
they've
been
working
for
the
city
for
a
while.
So
they
may
know
things
to
watch
for
that.
Somebody
working
on
just
one
project
with
make
about
and.
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First,
big
bullet
existing
and
proposed
topography
at
1
foot,
contour
intervals,
now
again,
I
guess,
if
you're
looking
at
you
know
a
lot
for
a
3
family
house
and
it's
on
flat
ground,
the
zoning
inspector
could
say
not
necessary
flat
grounds.
I
mean.
Are
we
assuming
that
this
is
when
we're
talking
about
a
site
that
is
steep.
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Provided
a
fairly
I'm,
not
a
thousand
percent
sure
that
it
didn't
accessible
calls
that
Omar
was
there
and
once
you
already
have
that
stopped
the
way
you
know
once
something's
in
cab,
and
you
can
email
this
stuff
back
and
forth.
Suddenly
the
architect
adds
that
suddenly,
the
guy
that's
doing
the
sewage
pump
station
has
it.
They
all
have
the
same
thing
and
those
were
there,
but
I
think
it
may
have
had
have
been
done
here
in
to
go
to
do
the
clue
more
okay,.
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So
to
be
counted
as
minor,
it
cannot
increase
the
improve
number
of
housing
units
or
non-residential
principle
structures.
It
cannot
increase
the
building
mass
by
increasing
height
length
or
percent
of
lot
coverage.
It
cannot
move
or
relocate
a
principal
structure
if
it
abuts
land
that
is
used
for
residential
purposes
or
is
out
side
the
development
of
residential
purposes
inside
or
outside
it
cannot
move
or
relocate
a
principal
structure
to
make
it
closer
to
a
property
line,
and
it
cannot
change,
approve
circulation,
drives
in
parking
areas
to
reduce
spaces
or
encroach
into
setbacks.
I.
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There
was
a
generalized
concern
expressed
that
maybe
not
everything
in
the
comprehensive
plan
was
fully
discussed
by
the
steering
committee,
and
maybe
people
didn't
really
realized
what
all
they
were
getting
into
when
they
cuz.
You
know
my
response.
When
some
questions
were
raised,
was
you
all
had
representative
some
of
you
in
the
room
here
were
on
the
steering
committee
and
recommended
this
to
us.
So
there
was
that
concern
that
there
are
things
within
the
comprehensive
plan
that
there
are
some
internal
tensions
right.
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Ryan
Pearson
actually
suggested
that
some
communities
have
a
conceptual
review
phase,
where
the
approving
body,
whether
it's
a
planning,
Commissioner
council,
would
look
at
the
general
idea
and
say
we
think
this
is
a
good
idea
for
our
community
or
we
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
our
community
as
a
way
to
give
developers
a
sense
of
whether
they
it's
worth
investing
in
the
engineering
and
and
all
of
those
things
that
are
required
by
the
time.
They
come
up
for
final
review.
That
raised
kind
of
a
mixed
reaction
really
totally.
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I
mean
right
now,
doesn't
that
happen.
I
mean
people
go
there
and
say
well,
it's
public
in
the
sense
that
people
can
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
meetings
and
they
speak
if
they
want
if
they
know
that
that's
happening
that
night
and
their
following
afternoon
that
afternoon,
okay
to
see
and
so
obviously
I'm
not
there
and
they
might
be
working,
but
by
making
it
a
process,
it
becomes
a
now.
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A
Kind
of
I
think
a
separate
question
from
this,
but
it's
a
suggestion
that
one
developer
made
to
us
and-
and
it
did
get
discussed
a
little
bit
at
that
chamber
meeting
the
other
comment
that
was
made
is
there
was
a
comment
that
our
current
regulations
tend
to
penalize
local
developers
and
are
more
flexible
and
responsive
to
out-of-towners
and
I
am
not
sure
what
that
is
referring
to.
So
it's
something
that
I
wrote
down
that
somebody
felt
strongly
about
and.
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And
this
I'm,
just
gonna,
show
this
quote:
I
looked
around
on
the
web,
some
about
site
plan
review-
and
this
was
a
particularly
handy
website.
I
thought
that
that
Burlington
has
that
just
explains
their
city's
site
plan
review
process
and
has
a
diagram
of
what
a
site
plan
might
look
like.
So
it's
the
kind
of
thing
we
might
work
toward
I
think
as
far
as
making
sure
that
our
development
process
is
clear
and
understandable
and
people
know
what's
expected
of
them.
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A
What
we
need
to
do
on
the
site
plan
review
pieces,
I
have
two
miscellaneous
items.
One
was
brought
I
thought
about
because
I
looked
at
this
saying
from
Burlington
and
if
you
look
at
the
sample
lot
coverage
calculation.
They
include
the
house,
the
garage,
the
driveway,
the
front
porch
and
the
front
sidewalk
as
lot
coverage,
and
we
have
some
rather
interesting
structures
in
the
city
of
Athens
that
are
up
on
stilts,
because
our
current
interpretation
is
that
only
where
the
building
touches
the
ground
is
lock.
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Okay,
the
other
miscellaneous
actually
came
up
in
the
floodplain
taskforce
meeting.
There
was
a
discussion
about
value
and
the
the
question
of
when
structures
have
to
come
into
compliance
with
the
floodplain
regulations,
and
it
became
clear
that
we
don't
have
a
clear
standard
for
the
value
of
a
home.
So
when
our
regs
are
triggered
by
an
improved
dim,
substantial
damage
or
improvements
that
exceed
50
percent
of
the
value
of
the
home,
we
don't
have
a
standard
in
the
code
that
defines
value
and
there's
a
fair
amount
of
time
spent
arguing
about
whether.