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A
Good
evening
it's
Monday
October
22nd
Oh,
seven
o'clock,
Aston
Council
is
meeting
a
series
of
committee
meetings,
we'll
have
environmental
committee,
first
finance
personnel,
city
services
and
arts
and
recreation.
The
first
one
is
environmental
Environment
Committee
we're
gonna,
have
a
presentation
by
Mike
Cooper
who's,
acting
as
our
wellhead
protection
specialist
Mike,
and
you
should
have
two
handouts.
A
B
B
And
as
far
as
our
educational
outreach
activities
are
concerned,
we
did
a
training
seminar
for
businesses
and
that
are
located
in
the
wellhead
protection
area
back
in
June.
This
was
done
in
conjunction
with
the
Athens
Area
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
Ohio
Environmental
Protection
Agency.
We
thought
it
went
quite
well.
B
C
B
Environmental
awareness
among
third
graders
in
Athens
County
it's
countywide
program.
We
have
a
great
time
with
the
kids,
that's
where
we
got
to
really
break
out
the
groundwater
model
and
have
some
fun
with
it,
as
Carol
can
attest
just
red
and
pink
dye
all
over
us
and
show
people
how
pollution
travels
through
the
groundwater.
It's
it's.
It's
quite
enlightening
and
a
good
thing
for
everybody
to
see
it
really.
I
really
opens
your
eyes
to
what
goes
on
underneath
the
ground
that
was
done
in
conjunction
with
the
Athens
high
school
biology
classes.
B
They
had
some
soil
water
conservation,
district,
the
Ohio
Department
of
Natural
Resources,
and
the
wellhead
protection
team
also
did
put
a
display
together
for
the
County
Fair.
This
year
we
had
maps
of
the
wellhead
protection
area,
information
about
the
wellhead
protection
area
in
the
ordinance
and
some
educational
material
as
well
for
people
on
drinking
water,
conservation
and
protection.
B
We
do
have
a
PowerPoint
presentation
that
we've
developed
what
this
is
is
basically
it's
just
a
line-by-line
discussion
of
the
ordinance
to
give
people
an
awareness
of
what
the
ordinance
is,
what
the
content
of
it
is
and
explain.
Some
of
the
some
of
the
finer
points
of
it
we
do
if
we
can
take
that
show
on
the
road
we'd
be
happy
to
take
it
to
neighborhood
associations,
schools,
business
meetings,
anything
any
time
anyone
would
like
to
with
us.
We
have
two
versions
of
shorter
one.
B
It's
about
10
minutes
and
longer
Winer,
probably
takes
about
a
half
hour,
goes
into
a
little
more
detail
and
I
also
completed
a
course.
The
Environmental
Protection
Agency
to
get
certification
as
a
class,
a
water
system
operator
operator
class,
a
systems,
our
small
water
systems,
not
nearly
the
scale
of
a
municipal
water
system,
but
it
gave
me
a
good
background
into
how
a
system
is
put
together,
how
water
is
treated
and
distributed,
and
it
certainly
was
a
worthwhile
endeavor
and
I
hope
hope.
B
B
And
also
included
as
a
list
of
the
potential
contaminant
source
inventory,
updates
that
we're
currently
working
on
I
think
we're
here,
you're,
probably
60,
70
percent
through
the
list.
Now
we
hope
to
have
them
all
wrapped
up
by
the
one-year
anniversary
of
the
program.
In
February
of
a
particular
note,
we
have
just
received
plans
for
an
expansion
and
remodel
of
the
Ohio
Department
of
Transportation
facility
on
West
Union
Street.
We
look
forward
to
doing
a
review
of
that
making
recommendations
to
the
service
safety,
director
and
council
as
well.
B
We
think
that
we
will
have
a
reduction
in
potential
contaminant
sources
in
the
wellhead
protection
area
through
this
remodel,
so
we
try
to
be
as
supportive
as
possible
there,
and
we
also
have
completed
review
of
all
the
facilities
that
were
required
to
submit
spill
prevention,
control
and
containment
plans
with
the
program
when
it
started
back
in
no
three
most
were
most
were
in
compliance
with
the
regulations.
A
few
needed
a
little
tweaking
here
and
there
notices
were
sent
out
and
just
about
everybody
has
responded.
B
So
all
of
that
information
is
now
up-to-date
and
then
the
last
two
pages.
Of
course,
one
is
just
the
structure
of
the
wellhead
protection
team,
as
it
is
now
ray,
hayslett
being
the
top
dog
their
director,
a
program
administrators
Nick
Carr
had
the
Division
of
Water
and
Sewer
the
technical
director
crystal
Cunard
from
the
water
treatment
plant
and
then
the
support
staff
myself.
B
B
D
E
B
B
B
A
A
B
Not
not
at
this
time,
although
well,
let
me
back
up
a
second
on
that
we
have
received
plans
for
development.
The
Ohio
Department
of
Transportation
is
a
good
one.
There
was
a
new
facility
going
in
on
Columbus
Road
in
auto
parts
store.
We
did
receive
plans
to
review
on
that,
and
it
is
a
requirement
of
the
of
the
ordinance
that
anybody
wishing
to
locate
in
the
in
the
wellhead
protection
area
needs
to
submit
plans
to
us
for
review
before
they
stick
a
shovel
in
the
ground.
B
B
We
we
decided-
and
we
made
a
point
of
this
in
our
in
our
presentation-
for
the
business
seminar-
that
routine
inspections.
We
will
give
24
hours
notice
before
we
come
to
see
your
facility.
We,
if,
if
we
receive
complaints,
we
get
a
real
concern.
We're
just
gonna
show
up
in
a
response
to
to
a
complaint
or
an
emergency
situation,
but
in
general
we
want.
B
We
want
the
inspection
process
to
be
friendly,
we're
we're
interested
in
what
you're
doing
with
your
business,
and
we
want
to
talk
to
you
about
the
processes
that
you
use
the
procedures
that
you
follow.
So
with
the
routine
inspections.
We
it's
a
learning,
a
learning
experience
for
all
of
us
and
want
to
make
sure
there's
fair
notice
with
that
and.
G
Then
everything
that
I
see
in
the
list
of
incident
investigations
looks
like
it's
resolved,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
the
Notice
of
Violation
from
April
2007
for
university
estates.
It
says
that
they
were
granted
60
days
to
bring
the
facility
into
compliance,
but
they
don't
see
something
later
on.
That
says
whether
that
happened.
D
H
One
to
comment
that
it's
great
to
see
all
of
this
in
action,
the
education
elements,
great
we're
going
to
miss
Gail
but
I'm
sure
they'll
count.
Someone
equally
is
Pepe
an
upbeat
as
she
to
replace
her
and
also
the
enforcement.
That's
that's
going
on
and
I
told
Mike
right
before
the
meeting
that
I
have
had
comments
from
folks
saying
what
a
joy
he
is
to
work
with,
even
when
they're
in
trouble
that
that
things
get
resolved
in
a
very
civil
way
and
it's
a
very
comfortable
working
situation.
So
thanks.
A
I
B
See
yes,
we
we
have
established.
We
have
established
contact
with
Norfolk
and
Southern
Railway.
They
have
today
a
spill
control,
containment
and
prevention
plan.
That
is
their
corporate
policy.
We
do
have
a
list
of
chemicals
that
are
generally
hauled
through
the
area.
There
is
a
procedure
we
have
to
follow.
If
we
want
specific
information
on
a
specific
load,
that's
coming
through,
they
don't
regularly
publish
that
for
security
reasons.
Obviously,
so
we
have
a
contact
person
for
that,
and
I
would
personally
like
to
thank
mr.
B
B
Expressed
to
us
as
the
application
of
herbicides
along
the
right-of-way
for
the
railroad,
and
we
did
make
a
request
to
Norfolk
in
stone
to
suspend
spraying
as
they
come
through
the
Armitage
well
field.
They
they
will
try
to
be
as
accommodating
as
they
can.
One
point
they
want
wanted
to
stress
with
us
is
that
they're
concerned
about
the
integrity
of
the
right
away.
B
Their
herbicide
applications
are
very
targeted.
We
have
MSDS
sheets
on
file
for
all
material
that
they
use
and
we
are
working
with
the
bike
path
committee
and
the
street
department.
We
are
going
to
post
some
signs
along
the
right
way
where
we
can
visible
from
from
the
railroad
asking
them
not
to
spray
and
giving
information
on
how
to
report
spills
and
contact
information.
So
we
hope
to
be
pursuing
that
here
in
the
next
few
weeks
and
get
those
signs
posted
okay,.
A
B
With
residents
should
be
well
conceived,
I
think
probably
the
biggest
concern
I
have
with
residential
development
would
be
the
installation
of
septic
systems
in
areas
in
most
areas
of
the
wellhead
protection
area
are
served
by
public
sewer,
but
the
Armitage
area.
The
sewer
system,
doesn't
reach
everything
there.
We
do
have
some
septic
systems
in
the
area.
We've
had
no
complaints
about
failures,
but
we
do
want
to
be
careful
about.
D
A
D
A
To
try
putting
together
this
is
for
LED
lights,
for
the
traffic's
signalization
I
got
it
just
just
today,
and
it's
coming
from
Andy
stone
who's
in
pursuit
of
monies.
If
you
look
at
the
piece
of
paper,
I
gave
you
there
that
there's
a
highlight
section
at
the
bottom,
in
terms
of
how
much
we
may
have
to
do
for
a
match
would
be
about
15,000
in
the
next
12
months.
Again.
This
is
to
upgrade
all
our
LED
to
work
towards
upgrading
all
our
traffic
signals.
A
Any
questions
I
just
gave
you
the
one
pager
there's
a
series
of
e-mails
back
and
forth
all
dated
today
from
Andy
the
Debbie
and
I
suspect
from
Ray
as
well
comments,
okay,
so
that
if
that
could
be
put
up
for
them,
okay,
the
last
one
is
you'll,
have
a
copy,
as
I
have
to
put
it
in
Nancy's
city
services,
but
Carole
pointed
out
could
fall
right
in
environment.
Well
is
a
copy
of
last
year's
ordinance,
the
0-1
3006.
This
is
where
we
suspend
24-hour
parking
rules
during
winter
break.
A
H
A
E
E
A
G
L
L
D
F
The
only
complaint
that
I
heard
was
that,
because
we
did
this,
some
residents
have
trouble
keeping
track
of
when,
when
the
parking
rules
are
suspended
and
when
they're
not
I
had
a
resident
on
Grosvenor
talked
to
me,
because
she
had
assumed
that
it
was
relaxed
during
spring
break.
So
she
brought
down
her
street
and
firehouse.
A
E
H
A
A
J
I
think
that,
just
echoing
what
Jim
said,
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
what
we
do,
I
like
that,
we,
you
know
sort
of
resend,
the
24
Hour
Party
rule
during
these
times,
so
that
makes
it
more
convenient
for
people
I.
Think
that
a
time
that
can
be
confusing
so
long,
we're
communicating
that
effectively.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
A
K
A
D
A
K
C
K
C
K
I
put
some
so
just
to
chime
in
on
Paul's
committee.
9
1002,
which
we
passed
a
while
ago,
says
that
the
code
officer
was
doing
exactly
what
it
says
he
should
do,
and
so
it
says
any
growth
of
such
noxious,
weeds,
grass
or
other
vegetation
other
than
trees
or
shrubs
Oh
such
hike,
which
would
be
8
inches.
Reaching
maturity
is
thereby
declared
a
nuisance.
So
we
passed
this
to
modify
it
to
a
lot
tomato
plants
and
other
things
like
that
to
be
grown
in
front
yards.
So,
ok.
A
And
I
want
to
chime
in
and
say
that
we
received
the
letter
from
Rose
dicus
dated
16
October
16th,
expressing
that
you
know
she
I
probably
should
read
it
in
I
have
to
talk
to
me
to
Athens
code
officer,
Bob
Mullins
today,
I
now
understand
that
flower
garden
can
remain
in
our
front
yard,
till
killing.
Frost
I'd
like
to
add
that
mr.
Mullins
has
always
been
courteous
and
helpful
during
all
of
our
face-to-face
conversations
in
the
past
month.
A
Prior
to
sending
the
code
violation,
letter,
Ron,
Zulu,
Bob,
Mollica
Mullins,
came
over
to
our
house
and
explained
what
was
need
to
be
done,
be
corrected
in
our
property
or
several
code.
Violations
which
we
immediate
corrective
I
did
not
understand
that
the
garden
was
themed.
Okay.
Well,
we
need
from
Council
is
a
code
clarification
regarding
front
yard
Gardens
in
order
to
to
continue
in
our
future
continuing
in
our
few
years.
Thank
you
for
considering
this
issue
and
again
that's
assigned
by
Rose
dicus
37
Brown.
So
do
you
want
to
add
anything
or.
C
C
D
C
C
D
C
C
D
K
K
C
C
Just
maybe
something
curiosity
if
you
look
at
section
1903,
which
is
the
one
just
after
the
one
that
you'd
mentioned.
It
also
says
that
determining
that
any
weeds
on
a
land
are
approaching,
such
growth
is
indicated
in
Section
1902,
and
then
it
says
so
as
to
become
injurious
or
harmful
to
the
inhabitants
of
the
city.
Notice
shall
be
given
according
to
Section
seven
thirty,
one,
fifty
one
and
seven
thirty,
two
fifty
two,
the
Ohio
Revised
Code.
C
Some
people
have
even
proffered
the
idea
to
me
that
so
long
as
they're
not
injurious
or
harmful
to
other
inhabitants
other
than
myself
on
my
own
property
they're,
not
a
nuisance.
So
then
it's
another
interpretation
that
you
might
take
about
a
section
of
three.
Normally
we
don't
do
that
again,
especially
on
complaint,
see.
A
C
I've
received
a
complaint
of
my
office
of
several
properties
in
town
that
had
invasive
growth
of
bamboo.
I
took
that
question
to
the
tree,
Commission,
and
even
though
bamboo
is
defined
as
a
grass.
Their
impression
was
that
it
was
not
a
grass
in
accordance
with
1902,
but
they
did
express
the
idea
that
some
running
types
route,
running
types
of
bamboo
were
invasive
and
perhaps
they
might
be
cited
for
to
be
an
invasive
species
as
opposed
to
a
noxious
weed.
K
D
C
K
You
look
at
the
magazines,
there's
much
promotional
front
yard,
Gardens
and
even
vegetables
in
the
front
yard
right.
We.
C
C
Environment,
you
especially
hear
your
backyard
may
be
in
a
lot
of
shade,
not
get
much
Sun,
and
so
the
front
yard
is
a
good
place
to
do
that.
It
also
cuts
down
on
your
carbon
emissions.
If
you
don't
have
to
cut
grass
lawn
mowers
being
one
of
the
most
inefficient
internal
combustion
engines
that
there
are
so
there
are,
there
are
several
things
that
are
advantage
to
gardening
anywhere.
C
K
A
C
Right
a
lot
of
times
too.
This
isn't
just
if
I
might,
in
association
with
some
other
sections
of
the
code,
in
particular
the
housing
code,
29
1201
sanitary
requirements
and
that
section
of
the
code
says
every
exterior
property.
Irva
promise
shall
be
maintained
in
a
clean,
safe
and
sanitary
condition,
free
of
any
accumulation
of
rubbish
or
garbage
no
owner
operator
shall
maintain
a
permit
to
be
maintained
at
or
on
exterior
property
area.
A
premise,
in
a
condition
that
deteriorates
or
debase
is
the
appearance
of
neighbourhood,
adversely
alters
the
appearance
and
general
character.
C
The
neighbourhood
creates
a
fire
safety
or
health
hazard
or
creates
a
public
nuisance,
and
then
it
goes
to
lists
lab
dated
fences,
Fernet,
discarded,
furniture,
a
lot
of
other
things
so
more
often
than
not
when
we're
addressing
something
that
has
to
do
with
tall
grass
or
weeds
we're.
Also
addressing
some
of
these
other
things
too.
Okay,
which
has
been
the
case
in
most
situations
of
local
of
recent
note.
E
E
This
discussion
of
kind
of
natural
landscapes,
which
water
conservation
etc,
I'm
wondering
if
we
want
to
revise
this
a
little
bit
because
the
letter
of
the
law
says
according
to
this,
it's
grass
or
any
growth
grass
or
other
vegetation.
So
I
wonder
if
we
want
to
say
you
know
something
intercepted
in
natural.
C
Another
discussion
that
I've
had
related
to
that
with
the
with
the
tree
Commission
has
to
do
with
what
I
think
are
called
the
woodland
prairies.
You
know
some
neighbors
read
the
ordinance
and
say
to
me:
it
looks
like
grass
and
it's
taller
than
8
inches
and
needs
to
be
cut.
Other
people
think
that
it's
just
a
realization,
others
I
have
large
area
in
my
own
backyard
that
I'm
letting
go
back
to
woodland
right.
D
C
A
This
point
I
have
hesitated
to
start
and
changing
this
unless
we
could
get
I,
don't
see,
there's
a
real
consensus
in
many
cases
of
what
not
just
weeds
at
all
I
mean
I.
Would
price
put
poison
ivy
in
this,
and
it's
not
part
of
that
it's
you
know
it
could
be
considered
invasive,
but
it's
also
a
natural
or
native
there.
K
Steve,
do
you
have
any
ideas
on
how
I
mean
it
seems
like
you've
dealt
with
most
of
these
issues
fairly
reasonably
so
in
the
near
term?
If
you
come
up
with
something
that
I
think
Bojinka
is
right,
though
you
know
with
may
be
out
there,
sometimes,
especially
if
people
get
to
enter
neighborhood
for
also
the
kind.
K
C
D
C
Want
to
do
one
thing
in
one
neighborhood
that
I
don't
do
in
another
neighborhood.
You
know
those
those
standards
may
be
different
in
town,
but
I
think
for
consistency's
sake,
we
gotta
do
the
same
thing
all
over
town.
Some
of
these
things,
like
oxide,
Daisy
and
Queen
Anne's
lace,
I,
didn't
ever
think
that
those
were
noxious.
D
G
I
have
kind
of
a
related
question.
I
in
when
this
question
came
up,
I
looked
at
the
zoning
code
to
see
what
it
says
about
gardening
and
I've
been
a
little
puzzled
by
the
wording
of
this.
What's
your
interpretation
of
gardening
in
an
r1,
because
it
looks
to
me
from
the
code
like
it's
conditionally
permitted,
that's.
C
C
No
it's
just
if
you're
going
to,
if
you're
going
to
sell
off
site,
there's
you
can
grow
on
site
so
long
as
you
don't
sell.
But
if
you
intend
to
sell-
and
you
need
a
conditional,
you
from
it
and
I
have
had
one
one
situation
like
that
up
on
Curtis
Street,
but
I
think
it's
everyone's
scene
I
mean
I.
Just
saw
it
recently
in
the
news.
After
a
yard,
gardening
is
becoming
very
popular.
C
So
to
draw
that
distinction
that
for
your
own
consumption,
that's
a
permitted
use,
an
accessory
use
related
the
principal
use,
the
property,
and
that's
generally,
how
I
look
at
it.
I
mean
well
what
would
be
more
common
than
growing
a
garden
to
be
an
accessory
used
to
your.
You
know
your
residence.
Hopefully
we
can
encourage
those
guys.
Okay,
I
think.
E
C
K
K
E
C
F
Or
other
vegetation,
so
that's,
as
the
speech
says,
extremely
broad
I'm.
Just
gonna
make
a
suggestion.
I
know
the
Extension
Office
has
a
program
called
master
gardeners
and
I'm
sure
that
the
Extension
Office
might
have
access
to
some
model
codes
out
there
or
National
Wildlife
Federation
is
has
long.
F
A
C
That
does
create
some
problems.
Just
so
you
know,
whenever
people
receive
a
five
day
notice,
we
have
to
send
that
out
certified
mail
to
cut
grass
and
weeds.
If
you
don't
do
it,
the
city
has
a
contractor
that
will
go.
Do
it
and
we've
been
contracting
all
summer
for
those
services
actually
I
had
the
contractor
came
in
this
morning
tried
to
mow
a
property
over
the
weekend.
The
property
owner
threatened
him,
and
so
tomorrow
he'll
have
a
police
escort
if
the
grass
was
so
it
can
get
in.
C
A
C
I've
to
get
that
information
to
you
just
exactly
how
many
times
we
contacted
the
contractor
a
lot
of
times
when
people
receive
the
five
day
notice,
they
go
ahead
and
cut
it
and
there's
a
show-up
fee
that
has
to
be
paid.
We
still
gone
through
all
these
steps.
Normally
what
we
try
to
do
to
avoid
all
the
paperwork.
The
writing
certified
mails,
we're
actually
knock
on
the
door
and
ask
someone
you
know:
do
you
need
help
getting
your
grass
cut
as
a
matter
of
fact
we'll?
C
You
know
if
we
can
try
to
put
them
in
contact
with
people
who
do
that
for
them
on
a
regular
basis.
Some
people
are
handicapped
and
can't
get
it
done.
Others
have
other
problems
related
to
finance
those
kinds
of
things.
We
we
deliver
trash
bags
and
leaf
and
lawn
bags
to
people
to
try
to
help
them,
so
we
try
to
work
with
them
first
and
actually
do
a
30
day
notice.
C
If
we
have
a
unique
situation
like
that,
under
the
housing
code,
as
opposed
to
the
five
day
notice
for
grass
and
weeds
we've,
let
people
know
that
the
city
provides
a
service
to
pick
up
bundle.
They'll
pick
up,
bundled
up,
sticks,
debris,
bags
of
grass
and
leaves
we
let
them
know
about.
Other
programs
in
other
city
departments
also,
so
we're
working
very
closely
with
the
neighbors
to
try
to
avoid
all
this
paperwork
if
possible.
C
A
K
A
F
F
F
M
Okay,
as
of
September
30th,
the
tax
receipts
are
up
3%.
This
is
probably
the
main
thing
I
want
to
put
out
there
first,
so
we
know
whether
our
revenue
are
the
main
source
of
our
revenue
or
the
general
fund.
This
is
going
to
be
on
target
that
translates
to
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
right
now,
plus,
hopefully
another
fifty
to
sixty
thousand
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I,
don't
expect
that
amount
to
go
up
any
and
I
hope
it
stays
at
that
rate.
M
Last
year
we
ended
the
year
with
only
a
two
percent
increase
over
the
previous
year.
My
preliminary
revenue
projections
show
a
decrease
in
total
revenue
next
year.
This
is
not
really
a
bad
thing.
Some
of
that
has
to
do
with
debt
reduction
when
I
roll
over
a
note
it's
booked
as
revenue,
and
although
the
sewer
fund
has
debt
problems,
other
funds
such
as
East,
8th,
Street,
the
parking
garage,
the
community
center
and
the
EPA
debt
funds
have
reduced
revenue
because
we've
been
paying
down
on
the
loans.
M
Also,
you
might
recall
that
we
paid
off
the
final
owd,
a
debt
in
the
water
department
and
although
we
took
out
a
$200,000
note
in
the
water
department
for
the
Columbus
road
project
this
year,
I'm
hopeful,
as
always
that
we
might
be
able
to
pay
that
off
next
year.
The
mayor
has
suggested
and
I
agree
that
we
should
transfer
the
carriage
Hill
booster
fund
revenue
to
the
water
debt
fund.
It's
about
$13,000.
M
M
My
guess
is
that
it
will
be
a
wash
you
know,
in
other
words,
no
real
increase
in
revenue,
but
we'll
see
I
will
probably
get
some
projections
from
the
county
auditor's
office
on
some
of
these
things
before
the
end
of
the
year,
some
good
news
in
the
general
fund.
We
expect
the
developers,
fees
or
rental
permits
to
go
up.
Also,
the
interest
rates
have
been
going
up
and
I
expect
that
to
continue
next
year.
M
Just
as
an
aside
keep
in
mind
that
the
interest
rate
increases
affect
quite
a
bit
of
our
funds,
we
do
divide
that
up
among
most
of
our
funds.
Actually,
so
we
have
projected
increases
for
quite
a
few
of
those.
Although
it's
modest
in
the
big
picture,
parking
ticket
revenue
will
probably
not
go.
Watch
up
much
the
collection
process
that
we
you
know,
council
instituted
has
been
in
place
for
a
while
I
suspect
that
most
of
the
older
delinquencies
have
been
collected.
M
M
You
know,
increase
the
time
for
the
money
on
on
the
meters
in
there
because
of
the
new
meter
rates,
but
the
horizon
payment
should
increase.
We
should
have
an
increase
than
that
money,
parking
garage
debt.
We
might
be
able
to
pay
off
that
off
next
year.
We
paid
one
hundred
fifty
thousand
down
this
year.
So
now
it's
at
two
hundred
thousand.
M
Very
nice
to
look
at
those
figures
when
they
reach
that
point
where
you
realize
that
your
closing
can
do
that.
It's
kinda,
like
the
water
fund
dad
and
some
of
the
others
in
Street,
rehab,
small
cities
and
issue
two
funds.
The
grant
money
will
be
gone.
We
do,
however,
have
the
two
hundred
forty
five
thousand
dollars
in
the
art
granite
coming
in
well.
You're.
Getting
to
the
end,
I
think
we've
discussed
the
issues
with
the
sewer
fund
long
enough,
so
I
won't
address
that
fun
tonight.
M
K
K
A
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
putting
it
in
green,
which
is
a
lot
of
money,
I
know
it's
part
of,
and
it's
at
the
point
now
and
we
asked
actually
Beverly
to
clarify
that.
First
of
all,
didn't
we
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
it
could
be
that
much
I
mean
we're
taking
them
both
the
effect
pay
off
FEMA
money
to
pay
overtime,
because
people
are
out-
and
you
know-
sounds.
D
M
Something
like
that
happen,
yeah
there's
no
cushion
to
go
ahead
and
pay
those
times,
but
you
know
debts
that
you
have.
You
know
expenses
and
that's
part
of
this
ordinance
that
Jim
was
just
talking
about
a
lot
of
that
that
money,
that's
to
be
appropriated
and
water
sewer
is
in
the
personnel
lines.
It's.
F
A
F
M
D
M
One
of
a
conference
I
went
to
this
year.
There
was
a
presentation
on
debt
and
sewer
rates,
sewer
water
rates,
a
lot
of
that
and-
and
it
showed
how,
if
you
increase
your
sewer
fund
rates
1%
every
year
for
five
years,
but
you
don't
increase
them
for
five
years
at
the
end
of
five
years,
it
would
take
30
percent
increase
to
make
up
for
that
amount
of
money
if
you
had
increased
it
every
year
for
a
year,
I
explained
that
right.
M
M
D
M
It
is
and
and
it's
hard
all
those
owd-
a
loads
that
feel
like
they've,
been
sitting
there
forever.
Some
of
the
other
things
feel
like
they're
within
reach
of
being
paid
off,
and
even
the
small
loans
we've
taken
out
out
for
projects.
You
know
200
thousand
dollars
here
and
there
are
three
hundred
thousand
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot.
But
when
you
already
have
this,
you
know
almost
$700,000
owd
a
debt
to
pay
off
every
year.
K
L
L
L
K
A
K
Did
it
was
just
like
the
6-2
580?
You
know
other
thing
that
Rick
came
up
with
it
was
you
know
something
I
thought
it
was
self-evident,
and
then
we
know
like
where
the
money
goes
with
the
into
into
the
death
fund
in
the
oh
I've
lost
ataxia.
Thank
you
and.
F
M
M
M
Finally,
while
the
recreation
fund
is
stable,
the
community
center
fund
is
in
trouble.
It's
been
running
very
close
to
the
cuff.
For
a
couple
years
now,
the
mayor
has
already
put
into
place
rate
increases
for
programs.
However,
after
discussing
the
revenue
budget
with
the
mayor
this
afternoon,
we
would
like
to
propose
a
change
in
the
tax
mix.
Our
suggestion
would
be
to
reduce
the
general
fund
amount
from
seventy
four
percent
to
sixty.
Seventy
two
percent
increase
the
capital
improvements
from
two
to
three
percent
and
add
an
allocation
for
the
community
center
of
one
percent
can.
M
D
K
L
Because
the
big
the
biggest
without
two
major
things
in
the
last
two
years,
$500,000
for
nuke
of
electronics
to
replace
phone
systems
citywide
in
the
internet-
and
we
spent
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
before
that
on
a
new
fire
truck.
So
outside
of
that
we've
been
spending
100
to
150
thousand
a
year
and.
L
L
G
L
D
I
A
M
A
D
K
A
future
meeting,
could
you
also
help
us
to
understand
how
rentals
contribute
to
this
in
the
regular
community
center
and
also
in
arts,
West
I
think
it
was
a
question
we
discussed
today
in
the
meeting
we
had
between
eleven
and
twelve
personnel,
just
in
general
I
mean
it
seems
to
be
a
happening
place.
You
know
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
activity,
but
I.
Just
guess:
I'd
like
to.
K
M
J
M
Total
revenue
projection
for
2008
at
this
time
is
thirty:
two
million
two
hundred
seven
thousand
nine
hundred
seventy
six
dollars
compared
to
thirty
three
million
nine
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
eight
hundred
forty
seven
thousand
dollars
eight
hundred
forty-seven
dollars
last
year.
So
that's
a
decrease
in
about
one
point:
seven
million
dollars.
I
M
M
F
F
F
M
D
K
Like
to
meet
with
them,
you
know
they're
Finn's,
just
walking
around
I,
guess
I'm,
not
in
my
office
between
eight
and
six,
usually
so
I
see
people
and
I'd
like
to
talk
to
the
next
level
down
a
little
bit
about
what
they
need.
I'd
like
to
test
Scott
and
Nick
Joseph
plan
operators
to
come
in
and
talk
for
mine.
You
know
just
if
that's
possible
I,
you
know,
and
it
did.
That
would
mean
water
and
sewer
right,
I
mean
I.
Just
would
like
to
talk
to
them
about
their
long-term
goals.
F
D
M
G
I
F
E
H
G
F
F
F
K
M
M
F
K
F
D
F
L
L
Their
interpretation
of
it
was
that
unless
it's
been
modified,
this
was
war
for
Turner
cities
could
do
that,
but
statutory
could
not
so
she's
going
to
take
it
to
the
Civil
Service
Commission
and
see
what
there
are
thoughts
of
it
are
and
recommendation
back
to
you
and
we're
also
going
to
check
the
law,
because
this
effective
date
there
was
November
of
1999.
So
it
may
have
been
that
this
is
a
change
that
would
include
statutory
cities,
but
we
have
to
be
cautious
negative.
L
I'm
saying
there
also
is
a
review
going
on
because
he's
having
to
spend
overtime
dollars
to
keep
some
minimum
shift,
those
even
they
have
to
do
some
transfers
and
some
funds
or
have
some
additional
Cathy
and
I've
looked
that.
We've
also
got
one
from
the
parking
enforcement
office
that
wanted
some
more
300
money,
primarily
to
replace
out
some
more
meter
heads
with
the
digital,
because
we
feel
that's
that's
something.
That's
good
to
get
to
do.
It's
less
maintenance
and
everything.
So
captain
file
had
a
program
for
it.
Was
there
anything
else
in
that
one
Kathy?
L
C
L
We
want
to
take
a
look
at
realistically
how
to
get
through
this
year,
because
what
was
what
was
surprising
to
me
was
we
received
at
sixteen
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
and
from
the
high
Department
of
Health
for
the
electrical
equipment
and
everything
like
that.
So
we
wrote
the
PIO
and
it
came
right
back
to
us
because
we
didn't
have
but
seven
thousand
dollars
so
I'm
saying
I
just
deposited
16.
L
We
never
even
thought
we
were
going
to
get
and
but
it
got
gobbled
up
through
payroll,
whatever
he
had
really
been
impacted
at
the
community
center
and
at
the
pool
which
lost
money,
as
I
told
you
a
week
or
two
ago,
with
this
minimum
wage
change,
because
what
we
had
been
doing
it.
You
know
the
federal
minimum
wage
instated
by
a
15
an
hour
and
they
start
somebody
575
or
$6.00.
All
of
a
sudden
was
685
and
swimming
aids
who
were
getting
515
two
years
ago.
L
We're
getting
685
this
year
and
even
though
we
took
in
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars
in
revenue,
which
was
far
away
both
best
year,
money,
wise
we've
ever
had
with
the
the
personnel
costs
at
the
pool
alone,
just
in
salaries
went
up
twenty
four
thousand
dollars,
and
you
just
can't
plan
for
that
and
when
you
look
at
the
fit
the
fitness
center
and
baby
sitting
there
after
school
chair
care
that
we
do
with
the
community
center
and
are
charged
to
those
line.
Items
I
mean
I.
L
Think
that
when
we
look
at
that,
as
the
total
car
we've
cut
back
on
people
as
much
as
we
can
but
I
think
it's
said
to
run
out
blaming
anything
about
this.
Just
we
have
to
react.
Pricing
structure
wise
and
the
public
has
to
understand
that
they're
gonna
have
to
pay
more
because
we're
paying
our
people.
D
E
L
L
Based
also
in
a
higher
revised
code,
because
if
someone
has
no
experience
that
they're
saying
is
they're
more
than
likely
if
they
go
for
the
full,
twenty
five
you've
run
a
disability
retirement
before
they
write.
They
hit
the
age
because
it's
very
physically
demanding,
especially
for
a
fireman
right.
So.
D
F
L
F
A
D
E
A
L
See
that's
what's
part
of
the
reason.
Well,
what
I
want
to
want
to
have
the
legal
folks
look
at
that.
Look
at
this
because
maybe
they're
using
some
terminology-
I'm
not
familiar
with
okay
and
I'm
Police
Department
qualifications-
is
that
stand
alone
or
police
cadet
program
is
not
a
stand
alone?
Okay,
that's.
L
D
L
M
F
L
F
L
C
L
K
L
It's
like
workstations
right
now.
If
you
go
into
most
computer
labs,
the
computer
isn't
sitting
on
top
of
the
desk
it's
down
in
the
desk,
with
a
glass
over
top
and
you're
looking
downward
and
ergonomically
people
think
that's
better
to
do
so.
That's
where
we
explore
and
I
think.
Also
in
my
conversation
with
Ronnie,
said
you
you're
eligible
by
a
departmental
type
area.
So
it's
designed
more
for
for
larger
cities
50,000
to
go
pretty
far,
but
you
ran
out
and
we
still
had
others
that
needed
it
to
be
done.
We
could
apply
for
another
grant.
L
F
F
K
We
have
several
items
on
the
agenda.
One
of
them
is
Tuffy's
and
so
that
council
members
who
aren't
familiar
with
this
can
understand
what
it
means
we
charge.
People
who
are
not
currently
on
the
sewer
and
who
are
expanding,
places,
water
and
sewer,
and
so
just
go
to
the
second
page
and
take
a
look
at.
How
can
permit
fees
are
more
figured
for
you,
students
enter
all
of
it
is
based
upon
something
that
is
in
Athens,
revised
code,
37
96,
which
says
the
sum
of
one
hundred
and
one
thousand
dollars
per
equivalent
APA
residential
unit.
K
Those
are
the
keywords
that
are
used
in
order
to
install
new
items
within
the
corporate
limits.
We
bump
it
up.
50
percent
outside
of
the
corporate
limits,
and
so
those
of
you
that
don't
understand
what
the
tap
fee
or
I
haven't
really
seen
it
in
operation
before
you
can
see
how
each
of
the
different
functions
were
assessed,
I
believe
Nick
car
does
the
original
work
and,
and
it's
checked
by
Ray
Haslett,
so
that's
just
where
it
starts,
and
Ray
has
suggested
that
we
amend
a
thirty
seven.
K
Ninety
six
to
increase
the
amount
because
of
our
debt
to
$1,500
for
the
basic
tap
recharge,
which
will
have
impacts
on
everything
else,
and
he
has
all
of
it's
all
worked
out.
You
can
see
how
it
goes
through
on
the
Student
Center,
just
that's
the
one
that
was
convenient.
Actually
it
didn't
exactly
come
out
this
way,
but
this
is
how
the
impact
units
are
assessed.
K
We
used
to
charge
$100
I,
believe,
okay,
then
we
went
to
a
thousand
and
now
we're
up
to
fifteen
hundred
one
question
that
I
have
is
when
it
gets
paid
and
the
answer
that
ray
gave
me
a
couple
minutes
ago
is
it
gets
paid
whenever
they're
about
to
do
it
to
do
the
actual
work
and
the
work
is
generally
assessed
separately,
at
least
in
the
agreements
I've
seen
you
can
see
that
actually
on
the
university
one
where
it
says
common
material
cost
for
the
physical
installation
are
not
included.
Okay,
so
that's!
K
L
K
K
D
K
The
other
question
I
have
is
how
about
time
and
I
will
see
you
open
it
up
to
the
wider
community
right
now,
duplexes
Larry
says
that
625
should
be
make
single-family
and
duplex
is
essentially
the
same,
and
then,
after
that,
the
triplex
has
end
up
being
assessed
because
of
the
way
the
EPA
amounts
are.
E
D
A
K
K
F
L
K
L
K
L
Do
the
storm
drain
system,
it's
still
$150,
I,
think
and
of
course,
some
places.
That's
a
creek
bed
or
an
open,
ditch
in
other
places.
It's
a
Burke
storm
thing
that
was
put
in
a
hundred
years
ago
and
others
it's
pretty
good.
But
there
are
it's
still
a
system
that
we
maintain
through
sewer
department
funds
and
it's
it
does
have
capital
assets.
That's
what
you're
buying
into
you
don't
get
in,
for
free
you'd
have
to
buy,
and
just
like
a
condo
association
or
anything
else.
It's
a
Water
Association.
D
K
L
A
K
And
this
is
what
the
captain
pile
has
requested.
Money
are
requested
us
to
give
permission
for
him
to
go
for
our
grant,
that
for
the
police
department
to
go
for
a
grant
to
fund
up
surveillance
system
for
the
parking
garage
in
the
police
department,
they
would
also
like
to
send
they
talked
about
that.
We
will
spend
up
to
ten
thousand
from
our
law
enforcement
trust
fund.
In
addition
to
this
money,
we
will
also
have
significant
in-kind,
because
we
intend
to
use
an
in-house
employee
with
advice
from
rod
force.
K
E
E
H
J
I
K
H
E
E
D
L
D
L
L
K
K
I
can't
imagine
very
many
people
would
be
opposed
to
that.
We'll
see.
Okay,
the
next
thing
that
our
miscellaneous-
this
is
in
response
to
something
I
heard
from
someone
who
may
or
may
not
remain
anonymous.
But
this
is
a
concerns
of
sewer
developments
in
university
of
states
and
the
question
for
me
is:
do
we
allow
a
short
term
low
cost
development,
or
do
we
look
to
a
long
term?
K
Reduced
cost
in
you
know,
sort
of
thinking,
long
term,
and
the
specific
issue
is
if
we
do
not
intervene
or
encourage
the
utilities
director
to
do
this,
then
the
various
compartments,
the
various
sub
segments
of
the
university
of
state's
development,
will
come
in
each
with
their
own
pump
station.
What
we
would
want
and
I
think
that
I'm
asking
you
how
we
would
accomplish
this
is
asked
to
have
gravity
flow
and
reduce
the
number
of
pump
stations,
because
the
electrical
costs
over
the
long
haul
will
be
substantial.
K
F
D
L
K
L
Of
its
it's
an
economic
issue
because
they're
looking
at
these
67
to
70
foot
wide
watts,
you
know
in
a
pricey
neighborhood
in
a
way
but
to
try
to
get
the
cost
down,
but
you
know
sometimes
you're
better
off
making
the
lots
of
a
little
bigger
and
not
having
the
booster
pumps
and
not
having
the
long-term
cost
to
us
because,
but
it
really
isn't.
You
know
we
talked
about
it
at
the
Planning.
Commission
staff
has
talked
about
it
with
they're
still
submitting
the
devil.
L
K
G
G
D
L
K
K
Bring
up
the
topic,
but
I
thought
maybe
there's
a
bigger
topic
that
goes
way
back
to
decades
in
an
earlier
service,
Services
Committee,
in
which
there
was
a
trouble
right
here
in
River
City,
and
there
was
a
splitting
up
of
functionality
and
it
was
the
city
took
over
for
all
the
right
reasons
for
humane
treatment
of
animals,
the
dogcatcher,
the
dog,
Safety
Officer,
the
dog
warden
position,
and
that
was
a
long
time
ago,
and
a
lot
of
plan
aspect
took
care
of
it
into
my
mind.
K
Having
driven
out
to
another
municipality
or
non
incorporated
area
in
this
town
and
seeing
the
dogs
running
loose,
I
mean
we
have
a
very
good
system
in
place,
I
think,
at
least
in
my
judgment,
very
good.
We
it's
worked
well,
but
I
guess
the
question
is
and
I'd
like
the
administration
to
make
a
recommendation.
Do
we
really
need
to
continue
because
we
all
pay
our
licensing
fees?
It
goes
to
the
county
and
we
have
established
and
accomplished
humane
treatment,
a
cat,
the
cat
issue.
Is
there
the
humaines?
K
You
know
the
cat,
the
cat
shelter
is
moribund,
the
dog
shelter
is
doing
well,
and
so
I
guess
I've
heard
informally
that
in
general
we're
thinking
about
not
continuing
the
position,
because
the
reasons
that
we
did
it
were
are
gone
or
have
been
resolved
and
now
and
the
pitbull
legislation
feeds
into
this.
Because
how
can
we
do
pitbull
legislation.
L
And
I've
had
some
discussions
with
one
of
the
county
commissioners
about
that's,
because
they're
asking
they're
they're
saying
to
me
that
the
dog
their
their
way
of
operating
the
dog
pound
warden,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
and
what
the
state
law
says
is
that
they
are
put
to
Patrol
I
think
patrol,
is,
is
much
different
than
respond
to
citizens,
concerns
and
such
because
I
say
ask
them.
What
do
you
do
about?
Raccoon
say
that
the
resident
complains
about
you
set
up
a
trap
for
the
lady.
L
They
basically
don't
do
a
whole
lot
of
that
stuff,
but
mine
was
doing,
or
we
also
put
them
in
to
contact
with
other
pest
control
capture
type
private
firms
that
are
around
town.
They
brought
up
the
you
know
your
Police
Department
didn't
you're
gonna
have
to
handle
those
things
that
are
outside
of
the
realm
of
patrolling
and
if
you
have
an
animal
that
is
injured,
say
because
of
a
car
wreck
or
something
who's
gonna
deal
with
it.
You
know,
because
it's
not
under
there
supposed
to
be
advised
codes.
There's
two
things
I'm
doing
here.
L
One
is
I've
asked
by
email
phone
file
to
get
together
with
me,
and
we
can
start
discussing
this
and
I'm
asking
the
law
to
record,
to
do
some
research
to
be
able
to
say
what
what
are
we
paying
for
then
allowance.
The
other
question
is:
if,
if
we
fund
this
in
some
manner,
is
it
possible
for
within
the
city
limits
of
Athens
to
have
a
piggy
back
dog
fee
or
cat.
L
It
because
right
now
it's
just
coming
out
of
our
income
tax
dollars,
and
then
we
talked
some
about
contracting
with
them
rather
than
having
our
own
part-time
officer,
and
they
would
throughout
I,
think
it's
a
negotiating
thing.
Sixty
percent
of
what
we
were
budgeting
for
animal
control
before
they
would
do
it
for
so
that
we'd
still
realize
the
cost.
Savings
and
they'd
help
get
some
money.
They're.
L
L
L
L
Think
so,
because
we
I
think
Whalen
was
62%
boy,
ye
and
and
toward
the
end
there
she
was
ill
frequently.
She
didn't
have
any
sick
leave
left
and
was
awful
without
pain,
and
that's
why
that
we
haven't
been
spending
the
full
budget,
the
last
couple
of
years,
so
we've
been
able
to
get
through,
but
part
of
that
is
that
when
she
was
off
one
of
the
other
animal
control,
people
from
the
county
would
cover
for
it,
and
so.
K
L
K
K
It's
the
big
black
dog
in
the
out
in
the
rural
areas
that
are
the
problems
and
they're
not
collecting
dog
license
fees
as
much
as
you
know,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
just
my
assertion
rather
than
hers,
but
you
know
she
said
the
students
didn't
create,
so
we
don't
have
to
be
feeling
guilty
about
that.
Yeah.
L
E
L
E
D
L
E
K
I
mean
as
long
as
we're
paying
into
it
and
we
pay
sales
tax
I
mean
I'm.
We
did
it
for
all
the
right
reasons
and
I
was
probably
the
sponsor
of
the
ordinance
20
years
ago,
but
I
just
think
the
time
has
passed.
She
accomplished
her
goals
should
we
did
move
toward
humane
treatment.
We
still
have
a
cat
problem,
I
don't
know.
Well,
let's
hear
some
recommendations.
A
You
make
just
a
question,
so
the
the
it
sounds
like
the
options
we
have
would
be,
and
your
guard
talk
to
our
director
and
accounting
positions.
We
the
fund
one
ourselves
with
the
one
extreme
in
house
or
we
don't
have
any
whatsoever
and
Vienna
County-
to
provide
services
that
it
or
we
have
our
police
officers.
Do
it
police
officer,
Emily,.
L
D
K
E
E
I
know
that
they're
very
forward-thinking
and
very
detailed
up
know
someone
who
works
there,
always
in
a
leading
edge
contrast,
and
it
struck
me
that
their
ordinance
was
complex
but
would
require
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work,
basically
in
in
in
making
sure
that
those
conditions
were
met.
So
I
think
it's
not
a
separate
issue
and
I.
Think
if
we're
going
to
look
at
any
kind
of
you
know
God
control,
it's
it's
worth,
maybe
glancing
at
that
first,
just
suggesting
it
I
mean
we
may
not
want
one
I
mean
there.
E
K
L
H
Yes,
arts
and
recreation
and
I
I'll
tell
you
right
now:
I
don't
have
any
miscellaneous,
oh
good!
Just
take
a
look
at
this
I've
got
some
comments
of
my
own
Debbie
and
I
worked
on
this
last
week
and
I.
D
H
It's
it's
getting
there
and
the
concept
of
having
a
percent
for
art
in
Athens
is
because
the
city
of
Athens
is
unique
in
that
I
suspect.
I,
don't
have
facts
on
this,
that
we
have
one
of
the
highest
per
capita
artists,
at
least
in
this
area,
and
perhaps
statewide.
We
have
a
great
number
of
artists
in
our
community
and
in
our
comprehensive
plan.
It
addresses
that
artistic
community
in
a
lot
of
ways,
and
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
have
moved
me
over
considerable
period
of
time,
to
gather
things
who
put
this
together.
H
I
believe
that
mayor
Coleman,
about
a
week
ago,
referred
to
it
as
the
sliver
for
art
I
thought
that
was
good
the
head.
He
felt
that
Columbus
certainly
could
give
a
sliver
for
art
some
things
that
are
a
little
different
here
than
what
I
first
offered
some
of
it
came
from
you
all
questions
that
came
up
when
I
talked
about
it,
and
some
of
it
came
from
talking
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
had
quite
a
lengthy
discussion
with
not
the
entire
chamber,
but
one
of
their
executive
business
groups
and
found
that
very
helpful.
H
F
F
F
H
We
are
a
small
city,
we're
not
we're,
not
Toledo
we're
not
Columbus
we're,
not
some
of
the
other
big
cities
that
have
persons
sempre
and
really
the
way
that
I
and
the
Arts
Commission
put
this
together.
Wiz
with
that
in
mind
that
we
are
a
small
city
odd,
the
biggest
change
in
this
language
is
that
it
says
that
the
policy
will
encourage
similar
allocation
for
public
art
by
private
developers
rather
than
mandating
now.
H
That
being
said,
the
folks
that
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
were
delighted
with
that
they
liked
the
encouraged
they
thought
it
should
be
encouraged,
citywide
and
so
on.
Also
Leslie,
Schuyler
and
I
on
behalf
of
the
Arts
Commission
are
kind
of
taking
on
a
little
project
where
we
are
going
to
put
together
a
collection
of
slides
of
current
art
in
private
developments,
and
there
is
quite
a
lot
within
our
city.
So
we
feel
that,
by
putting
together
a
chamber
presentation
along
that
line,
that
people
will
be
encouraged
to
do
a
percent
for
now.
H
I
also
I'm,
going
to
add
that
gary
has
looked
at
this
and
he
doesn't
even
like
us
suggesting
that
the
private
developers,
his
the
exact
note
is
Gary,
does
not
think
we
should
include
private
property,
even
if
it
is
not
mandated.
But
encouraged
perception
is
that
it's
expected.
I,
don't
agree
with
that,
and
I
did
find
that
a
number
of
places
use
this
language.
This
encourage
language
so
that
it
introduces
the
idea
to
the
developers.
H
What
one
of
the
reasons
that
I
like
it
in
here
is
because
if
it
indicates
that
it
could
be
included
in
the
information
given
to
the
developers
when
they
come
for
permits,
so
that
they
would
get
that
information
and
then
they
can
go
to
the
Arts
Commission
and
find
out
what
that
really
means,
and
one
of
our
developers
in
his
Chamber
of
Commerce
meeting
said
well.
I
just
had
no
clue
about
any
of
this.
H
H
H
H
G
H
G
I
just
think
that
recommending
the
use
of
funds,
if
we're
gonna,
if
the
Arts
Commission
is
going
to
accept
something
as
public
art
right,
then
it's
more
than
just
recommending
the
use
of
funds.
It's
the
the
policy
is
a
little
stronger
than
the
language
you
have
here.
If
we're
accepting
it
as
public
art
that
we're
acquiring
and
would
be
subject
to
those
policies.
I.
H
Guess
what
I
was
thinking
in
that
language,
that
what
that
means
to
me
is
recommend
how
to
use
it.
Okay,
like
a
sculpture,
would
fit
nicely
here.
A
painting
would
be
appropriate
on
that
wall
or,
if
it's
a
sewer
plant-
and
you
don't
think
anything's
appropriate.
That's
where
the
the
just
donating
to
the
fund
donating
perhaps
is
a
strong
word,
but
putting
the
money
into
a
fund
instead
of
the
actual
art,
okay,
which
might
be
a
recommendation
as
well.
E
Jacob
yep,
I,
guess
things
to
say:
yeah
kind
of
clarify
issues,
I
mean.
Are
you
suggesting
that
I
mean
started
by
saying
we
have
a
lot
of
local
artists
and,
and
it
could
appear
that
this
is
just
like
you
know,
giving
work
to
artists.
You
know
I
want
to
say,
but
you
know
an
allocation
of
money
and
then
local
people
select
local
artists
to
to
carry
out
various
commissions.
So
I
don't
know,
I.
Think
that
presents
some.
You
know
I
think
the
guideline
would
have
to
be
really
clear.
E
Otherwise,
it's
like
having
your
you
know,
playing
your
friend
to
do
the
art
so
I
just
think.
That's
something
that
needs
to
be
clarified
and
and
the
other
thing
is
that
no
I
mean
this
is
basically
for
aesthetic
reasons
which
I
support.
I
love,
art
I
tend
to
feel
that
there
is
some
basics
or
not
aesthetic
aspects
of
the
city
that
are
more
basic
than
art,
which
heaven
forbid
I'm
gonna
say
the
word
is
cleanliness.
You
know
I
mean
it,
you
know
if
we
have
Rafi
T.
E
If
we
have
dirt,
you
know
if
people
don't
maintain
their
properties
and
then
we
have
some
art
I.
Don't
think
that
fulfills
kind
of
the
intent
or
mission
of
this
to
make
this
aesthetically
pleasing
town
so
I
like
this
I,
am
concerned.
However,
on
the
issue
of
maybe
first
things
first
and
have
a
percent
for
PW,
which
is
power
washing
you
know,
I
mean
you
know.
In
other
words,
maybe
it's
wish.
E
You
know
if
we
can
dictate
some
amount
for
this.
You
know.
Maybe
there
are
ways
to
you
know,
take
care
of
some
other
aesthetics
of
the
community.
Like
you
know,
I'd
like
to
see
the
chamber
step
up
and
say
you
know,
let's
have
our
business
allocate
some
small
amount
for
power,
washing
I
mean
so
so
that
we
take
care
of
more
aspects
than
just
you
know
by
placing
art.
So
those
are
the
issues
that
I
just
want
to
get
on
the
table.
I
will.
E
H
As
a
funder,
that
is
an
option.
Okay,
and
do
you
remember
where
it
says
that
I
know
it's.
F
A
H
Or
public
exhibition
yeah,
we
left
that
that
door
open.
That
also
would
go
along
with
the
Arts
Commission's
mission
to
include
the
Performing
Arts
as
as
an
option
and.
H
A
H
And
I
also
might
add
that
we
don't
often
have
projects
that
are
over
a
million
dollars.
This
is
not
going
to
be
something
that
every
you
know
a
huge
amount
of
money's
going
into
on
a
regular
basis.
You
heard
the
mayor
say
that
there
haven't
been
any
capital
things
in
the
past
year.
Things
like
the
community
center,
it
would
have
kicked
in
the
community
center
in
terms
of
a
city.
Building
has
more
art
than
any
other
place
in
the
city.
H
I
think
that's
the
only
project
over
a
million
recently
the
renovation
of
the
parking
garage,
but
that
could
be
argued
that
that
was
just
maintenance
and
the
other
thing
that
I
want
to
point
out
that
I
deliberately
put
in
here,
partly
because
we're
a
small
town,
sorry
we're
a
huge
beautiful
to
where
we're
not
as
large
as
the
the
urban
areas
and
I
did
include.
That
council
can
waive
this
for
any
project.
Yeah.
F
H
A
H
H
You've
had
it
out
feedbacks
good,
the
as
I
said,
the
requirement
for
the
private
was
a
bit
of
a
stumbling
block,
but
they
were
very
positive
about
the
idea
of
the
the
encouraged
language
and
I
did
find.
It
was
in
the
copy
that
I
gave
you
of
another
ordinance
it.
It
had
encouraged
private
and
Debbie
pointed
that
out
that
night
and
just
the
more
I
talked
to
people,
the
more
I
felt
that
that
was
a
way
to
go
with
the
private,
to
educate
and
I
think
there's
some
some
good
sense.
There.
H
K
H
The
private
yes,
it
was
I've
got
that
here
with
me:
I'm
not
gonna,
dig
board.
It
would
take
no.
H
H
Right
with
okay
and
to
my
way
of
thinking,
a
major
part
of
this
is
to
provide
the
guidance
so
that
both
the
public
and
the
private
projects
know
what
that
means
to
have
fine
art
included
in
a
project
and
how
to
go
about
doing
that.
I
have
not
put
things
in
here
like
there's
some
cities
that
it's
directly
tied
in
with
the
Ohio
Arts
Council
Ohio,
universities
percent
for
art
is
totally
dealt
with
by
the
Ohio
Arts
Commission.
They
name
the
artists.