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B
Good
evening
welcome
to
Athens
city
council
tonight
is
Monday
November,
24th
2008
it's
on
or
about
7:00
p.m.
this
evening.
City
Council
is
meeting
in
a
series
of
committee
meetings
and
then
we'll
be
going
into
a
fairly
short
special
session
of
city
council.
The
first
committee
meeting
is
community
issues.
Jim
sands
and.
C
The
first
item
in
our
agenda,
mr.
president,
is
we
need
to
pass
an
ordinance
regarding
suspension
of
the
24-hour
parking
rules.
We
don't
need
to
do
this,
we're
suggesting
that
we
pass
this
as
horn
as
to
spending
the
24
hour
parking
rule
from
November
28
through
January
first.
This
was
done
for
the
first
time
last
year
during
the
winter
break
and
was
also
done
during
the
summer
break,
because
a
lot
of
year-round
residents
felt
that
without.
C
Additional
cars
in
their
neighborhood
from
Thunder
students
in
the
neighborhood
that
he
didn't
need
this
enforced
turnover
of
vehicles
to
allow
free
parking,
not
free,
but
free
access
to
parking
in
the
neighborhoods.
So
this
would
be
if
the
committee
is
that
council
approves
that
we
will
bring
this
up
as
a
an
ordinance
for
suspension
and
passage
tonight.
C
C
C
F
If
we
did
have
some
comments
at
the
Westside
Community
Association
meeting,
in
fact
they
were
the
ones
that
alerted
us
to
the
fact
that
it
had
been
passed
last
year
seemed
to
work
well,
and
so
they
were
suggesting
again
that
we
consider
it
so
and
if
we
want
to
consider
it
again
next
year,
I'll
put
it
on
my
calendar
earlier
in
the
year,
so
we
won't
have
to
suspend
and
the
roads.
I
tried.
G
G
F
F
F
C
K
Again,
my
name
is
Rhonda
Clark
and
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
community
food
initiatives,
and
thank
you
for
Mars
for
the
support
to
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
so
I
have
a
little
presentation
here
for
you.
It
starts
okay,
community
food
issues,
the
fruits
of
our
labor
2008,
the
mission
statement
of
CFI
to
help
local
people
become
self-sufficient
in
their
food
production.
We
help
community
members
acquire
the
tools
and
education
they
need
to
install,
maintain
and
harvest
their
personal
gardens
as
well
as
cook
and
presumed
preserve
the
fruits
of
their
labor.
K
We
also
teach
how
to
compost,
save
vegetable
seeds
and
create
jobs
by
teaching
how
to
sell
at
local
markets.
Why
we
do
what
we
do.
We
do
it
to
fight
hunger
and
poverty
and
increase
local
food
security,
to
increase
the
health
of
our
residents
and
to
fight
food-related
diseases
such
as
diabetes,
obesity,
cancer
and
heart
disease,
and
to
teach
people
in
communities
how
to
live
closer
to
the
earth
and
more
sustainable
lifestyle.
Our
program
includes
the
Athens
community
gardens
which,
on
West,
Side
and
Hope
apartments
on
East
Side,
Glouster
Stewart.
K
We
also
have
a
community
composting
project.
The
Edible
Schoolyard
projects
at
the
athens
city,
schools,
Trimble
local
schools.
We
have
a
free
seed,
giveaway,
which
we
do
in
Chancellor,
Chauncey
Gloucester
mineral
lot,
Ridge
Nelsonville.
We
have
a
CFI
Seed
Savers
group.
We
also
have
helping
with
the
trembling
Township
farmers
market
and
food
preservation.
Workshops
we'll
be
talking
about
the
West
Side
community,
gardens
Hope
Gardens
composting
in
the
CFI
donation
station.
K
Today,
some
pictures
of
the
west
side
community
gardens
which
are
located
on
West
State
Street
by
the
ball
fields
between
the
driving
range
in
the
first
ball
field.
On
the
right
we
survey
the
gardens
every
year.
This
is
our
fifth
year
surveying
the
gardens,
and
this
these
are
some
statistics
that
we
came
up
with
this
year.
Each
gardener
spends
about
7.08
hours
a
week
in
the
garden
total
hours
spent
by
all
gardeners
for
the
season
was
thirty
thousand
five
hundred
eighty
five
hours.
K
The
average
gardener
grows
164
pounds
they
donate
fifty
two
pounds
of
that
to
the
community.
Seventy
two
percent
said
they
are
preserving
food
and
89
percent
said
that
they're
eating
more
fruits
and
vegetables
because
of
the
gardens
here
is
a
table
that
we've
created
over
the
last
five
years
of
our
survey.
K
You
can
see
that
we're
up
to
120
gardeners
now
in
2008
that
happened
in
May
with
the
fuel
prices,
went
up
in
May
and
we
don't
do
a
lot
of
advertising
just
to
keep
it
under
some
sort
of
make
it
manageable,
and
so
we
had
advertising
through
the
fuel
prices.
So
it's
120
gardeners
on
west
side
only
that
doesn't
include
a
gardeners
on
east
side
at
Hope.
We
also
produce
19
thousand
six
hundred
eighty
pounds
of
food.
K
K
The
places
the
gardener's
donated
food
include
the
CFI
donation
station
individuals
in
need
food
for
life,
green
edge,
rural
action,
Salvation
Army,
dirt,
good
Earth's,
hunger
mission,
Athens
Friends
mission,
good
works,
an
electronic
vision.
This
is
from
their
survey.
We
had
several
workshops
on
how
to
how
to
preserve
and
cook
the
foods
we
have:
gardening,
101
cheese,
making,
adventures
and
pickling
solar,
cooking
and
homemade
ice
cream.
Casting
a
vision
at
the
Westside
gardens
were
trying
to
make
them
self-sufficient
or
self-governing
over
their
bread,
making,
making
your
own
condiments,
etc.
K
2009
goals
include
achieving
self-governance
of
the
West
Side
community,
gardens
gardeners,
so
they're
running
their
own
show.
We
spend
a
lot
of
staff
time
over
there
and
we'd
like
to
build
a
pulse,
EFI
staff
time
out
and
put
it
elsewhere
in
the
city
and
elsewhere
in
the
county,
we'd
like
to
start
a
community
orchard
project.
At
the
request
of
mayor
while
and
try
and
promote
eating
eating
the
fruit
on
the
fruit
trees
that
already
exists
in
the
city.
K
We
think
there's
a
lot
of
fruit,
that's
just
falling
on
the
ground
and
becoming
kind
of
a
hazard
for
people
walking
by
and
such,
and
we
think
that
we
could
promote
eating
that
and
processing
that
expansion
to
the
south
of
the
gardens,
the
gardens
towards
the
the
I
guess.
The
ball
field.
That's
right!
There
kind
of
along
sides
of
the
the
driving
range
with
the
gardeners
want
to
build
a
living
fence
of
berries
and
perennials
around
the
garden
in
order
to
keep
deer
out
theoretically
yeah.
K
But
if
you
need
to
have
a
living
fence
of
berries
anyways
at
a
second
water
spigot,
and
we
want
to
work
with
the
city
planner
on
future
sites.
The
hope
garden
summer.
Youth
program
was
a
huge
success
here.
On
the
left,
you'll
see
the
garden
we
had
up
to
18
kids
and
on
the
left
is
the
the
kids
garden
at
week,
2
and
on
the
right.
Is
the
kids
got
in
at
week
7
and
it
was
set
up.
We
had
one
community
garden
manager
to
summer
service
quarters
and
one.
Oh,
you
intern.
K
K
We
had
10
family
gardens
in
addition
to
the
kids
garden,
and
we
also
have
worked
with
six
eleven
year
olds
and
to
teach
them
how
to
sell
the
Athens
farmers
market,
and
all
of
this
is
documented
and
in
a
in
a
folder
form
so
that
we
can
replicate
it
in
other
parts
of
the
county
and
in
the
city.
Here's
some
pictures
of
them
learning
how
to
make
salads
and
working
in
the
garden.
The
you
thought,
they're
called
the
yeah
and
you
might
see
them
at
the
Athens
farmers
market.
K
There's
they're
like
yeah
and
they're
youth
entrepreneurs
and
hope-
and
here
we
have
mayor
while
supports-
are
young
kids
buying
food
from
them.
2009
goals
expand
the
garden
space
again
start
selling
at
the
Athens
farmer's
market.
In
May
this
year
we
started
in
August.
We
had
a
lot
of
big
learning
curve
and
we
really
expanded
the
whole
project
this
year.
So
we
didn't
get
into
August,
move
the
youth
garden
program
to
public
housing
complexes
in
the
plains,
training,
Master,
Gardeners
and
other
volunteers
to
take
over
some
of
the
tasks.
K
Some
of
the
education.
We
have.
We
a
lot
of
workshops
this
year,
a
global
warming
cafe
eco
house
workshop
near
East,
Side,
North,
neighborhood,
Athens
farmers
market
displays
South,
Side
Sycamore,
run
at
two-way
national
forests,
papa
festival,
Athens,
Garden
Club,
our
workshops
and
marketing
reached
at
least
2,000
people
in
the
city.
Some
pictures
of
building
here's
our
statistics
again,
similar
to
what
we
had
for
the
gardens.
K
We
had
three
volunteers,
three
restaurants
and
we
were
able
to
pull
out
fifteen
thousand
two
hundred
and
ten
gallons
of
food
scraps,
and
we
made
18
cubic
yards
of
compost
this
year.
We
at
the
request
of
Nancy.
We
did
some
estimation
of
how
many
people
are
composting
in
the
city
and
when
we
mean
composting,
we
include
food
scraps,
not
just
yard
waste.
We
want
to
include
food
scraps
with
CFI
and
we
found
that
it
was
quite
low
with
food
scraps.
K
So
far
we
think
five
to
ten
percent
of
the
ethnicity
residents
compost,
their
kitchen
food
scraps.
We
also
kind
of
monitored
our
own
composting
and
how
much
we
compost
it
in
a
week
and
then
it
extrapolated
off
of
that
to
figure
out
we
get.
We
figured
we
averaged
about
a
hundred
gallons
per
year
per
person,
so
my
family
of
five
did
five
hundred
gallons
this
year,
a
family
of
two
did
200
gallons
in
a
year
of
their
own
food
waste.
K
So
taking
that
to
the
five
to
ten
percent
of
Athens
city
residents
residents,
we
think
currently,
seventy
five
thousand
to
150
thousand
gallons
of
food
waste
is
presently
being
diverted
from
the
waste
stream
by
composting
food
scraps.
In
addition
to
yard
waste,
that's
not
included
in
that
number.
If
we
can
raise
the
percentage
of
twenty
percent
than
residents,
residents
would
be
diverting
300
thousand
gallons
of
food
waste
from
the
Athens
solid
waste
stream.
K
Some
of
our
future
composting
goals
increased
the
percent
of
backyard
composters
continued
our
backyard
compost
workshops
it's
more
under
the
sink
compost
workshops.
We
surveyed
our
gardeners
and
found
that
a
lot
of
them
because
they
live
in
apartments
and
that's
why
they
garden
at
the
community
gardens,
don't
have
access
to
facilities
to
compost,
install
compost,
facilities
at
local
schools.
Many
restaurants
are
asking
us
asking
to
participate
in
our
pre-consumer
food
residual
collection,
but
Athens
needs
a
large
outdoor
composting
facility
to
accommodate,
accommodate
that
there's
quite
a
bit
of
product
and
finish
the
local
compost.
K
Video
we're
working
on
we've
got
all
the
footage
and
we've
got
the
script
and
we're
having
a
little
technical
difficulties,
getting
it
into
the
program
that
we
need
to
paste
it
and
cut
it
and
slice
it
and
make
it
together
into
a
video
so
we're
almost
there.
We
hope
to
have
that
done
by
the
beginning
of
January
or
February,
see
if
I
donation
station
getting
fresh
product
and
product
to
local
social
agencies
and
food
pantries,
there's
Keith
sitting
there
collecting
food
I'm
sure
y'all,
seen
him
at
the
market.
K
Cfi
donation
station
history
it
started
in
October,
2007
2008
was
our
first
full
season.
It
started
out
with
the
10%
tide.
We
asked
the
community
gardeners
denoted
8
to
the
community
as
expanded
to
its
own
program,
which
includes
four
main
sources
of
donation.
These
four,
these
four
groups,
are
the
plant.
K
A
row
campaign
which
is
PA
are-
and
we
asked
the
committee-
the
gardeners
in
the
community
at
large
to
plant
an
extra
row
of
food
for
the
hungry
and
then
donate
it
to
Keith
at
1:43,
Morris
Avenue
in
Athens,
and
he
will
get
it
to
these
pick.
The
food
pantries
and
my
sister's
place
and
different
places.
Also,
the
Westside
community
gardeners
give
10%,
we
have
some
to
give
10%
of
their
product
and
they
give
it
through
Keith
the
Athens
farmer,
smart
consumers.
K
We
Keith
stands
at
the
Athens
farmers
market,
every
Wednesday
and
Saturday
and
I
think
son
Wednesday's
every
Saturday
and
ask
the
customers
to
donate
product
or
money
to
him,
and
then
he
goes
out
either
buys
product
or
takes
the
product
and
gives
it
to
the
food
pantries
and
we,
the
Athens
Farmers
Market
vendors,
also
give
large
bulk
amounts
at
the
end
of
the
market.
Here's
some
pictures
of
some
of
the
products,
the
recipients
are:
the
nine
Athens
County
food
pantries.
My
sister's
placed
John
Flynn
recovery
house,
good
works,
United
campus
ministries,
First
Methodist
lunch.
K
Anybody
we're
trying
to
get
it
up
to
30
recipients.
Some
pictures
there.
Okay,
27,000
pounds
of
food
has
been
donated
in
2008
so
far,
and
the
final
statistics
in
2008
47,000
pounds
of
food
both
grown
and
donated
by
local
people
for
local
people.
So
that
includes
the
amount
that
was
donated
to
Keith
and
they
thought
that
was
grown
at
the
Athens
community
gardens
and
then
it
was
another
great
year
for
CFI
and
thank
you
for
your
support
in
2008.
K
D
C
More
difficult
task
than
any
other
city
lies,
and
so
those
discussions
are
ongoing.
We
hope
that
sometime
in
the
future,
city
of
Athens
will
be
able
to
add
food,
scrap,
pickup
and
yard
waste
pickup
to
a
composting
facility
and
then
get
that
back
into
the
communities,
and
it
was
support
of
the
backyard
composting
program
that
led.
A
K
Funding
yeah
I
mean
with
the
expansion
of
the
gardens
and
with
just
a
we,
the
expansion,
all
the
product
projects
we
do
in
the
city
that
we
would
like
to
ask
for
a
higher
song,
but
we're
okay
with
you
know
we're
happy
with
what
you
give
us,
but
we're
it's
starting
to
cost
more
to
achieve
the
goals
that
we
have
and
because
of
the
size
of
the
garden,
the
composting
situation.
So
we
would
like
to
ask
for
20,000,
but
well
you
know
the
work,
we're
willing
to
work
with
that.
C
K
And
then
a
red
ribbon
is
no.
It's
not
public
domain.
You
can't
take
the
food
off
this
tree
so
that
we
and
having
those
ribbons
around
the
city
would
be
a
big
promotion
for
I.
Don't
think
people
notice
the
trees
now
I
mean
if
we
had
something
autumn.
That
was
a
pretty
substantial
I.
Don't
think
people
really
think
about
it
now
and
they
don't
think
about
gee
I
could
eat
that
fruit.
K
But
if
we
were
to
add
more
food
security
to
the
area,
I
think
adding
fruit
on
is
another
layer
to
vegetables
and
we're
also
adding
on
grains
in
2009.
It
would
be
a
huge
ruling
to
have
that
kind
of
food
security
in
the
area.
It
would
insulate
us
against
any
kind
of
national
problems
that
might
happen.
K
L
Came
out
of
the
discussion,
there's
a
group
transition
cities,
that's
working
on
food
security
and
some
of
the
action
discussion
with
the
planner
was,
you
know,
planting
more
fruit
trees.
It
was
pointed
out
with
that,
this
being
a
bumper
year
for
apples
and
a
lot
of
nuts
and
stuff
and
Berry
said,
there's
a
lot
of
trees
already
in
place,
but
a
lot
of
just
goes
to
waste.
L
The
next
thing
discussion
was:
can
we
cut
create
a
forum
or
some
kind
of
agreement
with
the
landowner
or
this
the
ones
on
the
sea
right,
wait,
but
also
ones
peripheral
of
the
city,
the
right-of-way,
so
the
owner
could
say
yes
pick
the
fruit,
please
or
not.
I
know
about
a
half
dozen
places
where
you
know
your
you
scrunch,
along
with
rotten
apples,
etc.
L
So
there
is
a
there
is
you
know,
fruit
lying
on
the
ground
and
that
could
be
picked
and
the
idea
is
to
create
a
mechanism
to
which
is
together
to
gather
it
and
this
you
know
this
is
just
an
idea,
we'll
see
where
it
goes.
I
think
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
because
I'd
say
this:
some
years
you'll
probably
get
nothing.
It
was
a
bad
year
for
for
weather
or
or
fruit
or
nuts,
but
at
the
same
time,
there's
quite
a
bit
out
there.
I.
E
D
F
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
all
your
efforts,
I
think
it's
made
a
real
positive
contribution
to
the
committee
community.
Just
a
brief
question.
Some
of
this
may
be
my
being
new
to
council.
Your
your
support
from
Council
in
the
past
year
has
been
5,000
each
for
the
compost
tea
and
for
the
community
gardens
and
what
you're
requesting
is
10,000
each
and
just
do
we
is
there
a
budget
that
just
a
very
simple
budget
that's
been
submitted
or
doing
now,
or
maybe
you
could
identify
for
us
in
the
near
future?
K
M
Just
a
quick
comment,
and,
first
of
all
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you're
doing
with
CFI
I
was
at
an
event
the
mayor
and
Paula
were
out
as
well
as
that
Hope
gardens,
and
really
to
see
these
kids
that
have
been
taught
how
to
grow
their
own
food
cook,
their
own
food.
It's
in
it!
It's
an
amazing!
You
don't
get
any
better
results
than
that
and
it's
it's
really
powerful.
L
D
L
K
Thought
a
lot
of
them
use
that
money
to
help
their
family
pay,
rent
and
buy
food
they're
very
mature
because
of
this
because
of
the
situation
that
they've
grown
up
in
and
the
hardships
they've
already
had
to
deal
with.
These
kids
are
much
more
mature
than
my
kids,
which
are
very
food
secure.
You
know
my
kids
don't
have
to
deal
with
the
issues
these
kids
have
to
deal
with
and
so
I.
K
D
I
Thank
you
on
behalf
of
our
board
of
directors.
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support.
We've
been
under
a
scope
of
services
agreement
with
you
for
the
past
three
years
and
during
that
time,
as
you'll
see
in
this
short
presentation
that
we
have
for
you,
we
have
gained
considerable
ground
in
the
tourism
market
and,
of
course,
it
remains
one
of
the
greatest
opportunities
for
the
entire
county
to
generate
additional
sales
tax
and
to
have
that
new
money
that
content
to
float
around
I'm
into
our
community.
I
When
we
talk
about
the
multiplier
effect,
as
we
talk
about
economic
impact
or
both
direct
and
indirect
I
think
those
new
dollars
circulate
around
in
our
community
three
or
four
or
five
or
six
times.
It's
always
really
exciting
to
me
so
and
before
I
get
started
also,
I
want
to
pass
on
some
thanks
to
Leslie
Schuyler
and
to
Jennifer
Simon
two,
ladies,
that
I
have
the
privilege
of
working
very
close
with
and
I'm
really
excited
about.
F
I
A
couple
of
features
that
we
were
a
part
of
in
2008,
we
were
featured
on
taste
of
America,
the
Travel
Channel.
They
featured
our
incredible
pop
pop
and
had
crush
meal
on
there,
along
with
some
other
local
favorites,
and
we
received
a
lot
of
attention.
A
lot
of
phone
calls
and
requests
for
information
from
that.
We
also
were
featured
on
RFD
TV
with
smoke
rise,
ranch
of
course
recognized
Ohio's.
I
It's
cool,
City,
I'm,
Ohio's,
best
hometown
switch
we're
in
the
middle
of
right
now
and
you've
got
a
copy
of
the
Empire
magazine
circulating
around
it
has
the
first
article
there
it
is:
have
additional
copies.
Ashley
just
dropped
a
box
off
today,
but
I
had
so
much
to
carry
that
with
me,
but
I
do
have
additional
copies
and
we'll
drop
them
off
here
at
the
mayor's
office.
For
you
to
have,
we
have
another
edition
of
best
hometowns
that
will
come
out
in
June
and
another
one
in
January.
We've
got
one
coming
up.
I
With
pictures
of
the
Year
award,
it
was
the
only
student
award
or
project
that
was
given
and,
of
course,
we
are
in
continuation
of
our
national
regional
flavor
grant
project.
This
is
a
project
that
we're
doing
with
ace
net
we're
partnered
up
with
five
other
communities
from
across
the
country
and
we're
in
a
multiple
year
project,
exploring
our
regional
flavor
and,
in
fact,
we'll
be
attending
a
meeting
next
week
to
discuss
some
by
local
campaigns
and
efforts
to
sort
of
Center
your
local
economies
around
your
local
goods
and
services.
I
Beginning
Memorial
Day
weekend
the
öyou
family
weekend
some
sporting
events
there's
about
13
to
15
of
these
a
year
that
fill
all
of
our
hotels
up,
which
are
fantastic,
ohio
brew
week,
its
third
year
stronger
than
ever
boogie
on
the
bricks
bigger
than
ever
Papa
festivals,
bigger
than
ever
American
Legion
state
championships.
We
continue
to
host
them.
We
just
completed
our
41st
year
of
having
them
here
and
Halloween
with
an
exclamation
point,
because
I
thought
it
was
pretty
darn
fantastic.
I
This
year
we
continued
by
the
way
to
work
with
Jonathan
Homburg
and
the
clean
and
safe
committee.
They
did
produce
a
map
and
dyed
to
Halloween
this
year
and
then
in
the
works
for
next
year
is
further
development
of
a
website.
Incidentally,
we
sold
20
online
hotel
packages
for
Halloween
it's
the
first
year
that
we
tried
to
do
it
and
we
partnered
with
a
local
hotel.
He
was
willing
and
everything
worked
perfectly.
I
We
gave
them
a
t-shirt
and
a
poster,
and
some
other
trinkets
and
a
math
and
things
like
that,
and
we
didn't
advertise
it
or
promote
it.
But
just
off
of
the
traffic
general
traffic
from
the
web,
we
were
able
to
sell
about
20
hours
out
what
it
hosts
a
significant
number
of
conferences,
meetings
and
groups.
Here
this
past
year,
the
youth
spring
hockey
tournaments.
We
actually
have
two
of
those
that
come
in
the
fifth
grade
and
middle
school
State
wrestling
championships.
I
This
was
two
different
weekends
over
our
Spring
Break
week
that
filled
all
of
our
hotels,
plus
the
Logan
hotels,
hotel
in
Jackson
and
a
couple
of
rooms
over
in
Parkersburg.
So
we
really
spread
out
on
that
one:
Alpha
Gamma
Delta
sorority,
the
black
alumni
reunion,
Ohio
State,
Beekeepers
Association,
which
is
pretty
exciting.
I
The
sports
administration,
alumni
symposium,
Ohio
campground
owners
and
we
just
finished
the
NCAA
water
polo
championships,
which
oh
you
host
it
and
then,
of
course,
the
basketball
bracket,
Buster
game,
it's
hard
to
say
fast,
but
still
breaks
a
lot
of
traffic
to
us,
and
definitely
this
is
where
our
partnerships
with
Ohio
University
come
into
play,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
sporting
events,
these
bracket,
Buster's
and
tournaments.
That
happen
on
a
very
quick
turnaround.
We
have
to
go
very
quickly
to
our
hotel
ears
and
say
give
us
good
rates
block
the
rooms
hold
these.
I
We
know
that
people
are
going
to
be
registering
and
for
us,
it's
a
little
extra
package
that
comes
to
us,
sometimes
at
a
time
when
we
really
need
at
a
time
when
it's
led,
which
is
what
happened
with
the
water
polo
tournament,
advertising
and
marketing.
This
past
year
we
spent
about
forty
five
thousand
dollars
on
advertising
and
probably
another
ten
thousand
dollars
in
marketing.
Part
of
our
marketing
efforts
include
attending
some
travel
showcases.
I
Some
of
these
are
for
group
tour
operators
where
we're
trying
to
secure
group
to
our
business
and
some
are
for
leisure
travelers,
like
the
spotlight
on
Appalachia
Travel
Show,
and
we
visited
and
stupid
bill
for
that
this
year
and
saw
a
record
number
of
people.
That's
a
chance
for
us
to
get
the
word
out
about
what
we
do
and
to
provide
people
with
some
information
about
a
part
of
the
country
or
a
part
of
Ohio
that
they
may
have
never
visited
a
few
areas
where
we
did
some
advertising.
I
I
We
in
the
summer
run
weekly
ads
with
them
and
then
over
the
holidays
will
be
running
weekly
ads
with
them,
as
well
group
travel
magazine
again
directed
at
those
people
who
developed
tours
Appalachian
Ohio
visitors
guide,
which
came
out
for
the
first
time
this
year.
We
continue
to
do
our
radio
advertising
with
wiu,
be
several
stations
in
columbus
and
the
local
athens
radio
stations.
We
have
special
events
and,
of
course,
we're
doing
guests
quest
co-ops.
I
This
is
a
travel
publication
that
goes
in
about
600,000
newspapers
several
times
a
year
and
what
we're
doing
is
we're
paying
for
half
of
the
two-page
spread
that
follows
right
after
the
Hocking
hill
spread
and
that
allows
our
partners
to
be
able
to
get
into
a
publication
of
this
size
that
provides
bonafide
generated,
leads
like
to
them
for
about
250
dollars,
which
is
pretty
amazing.
I'm
a
normal
magazine
advertisement
for
one
of
our
partners
can
run
anywhere
from
600
to
a
thousand
dollars
and
may
or
may
not
generate
a
bonafide
lead.
I
These
are
things
that
actually
every
week
they
send
you,
the
reader
response.
Information
and
we'd
be
doing
more
of
these
kinds
of
coops
in
2009
a
few
facts
about
our
website.
1.3
million
hits
a
month
every
time.
I
look
at
this
thing.
It
keeps
getting
bigger
and
bigger.
We
get
more
and
more
pages,
and
we
get
more
and
more
hits
on
it,
but
it
is
definitely
an
amazing
tool
for
us.
We
continue
to
rank
number
one
or
number
two,
and
just
about
everything
that
you
can
search
for
when
it
comes
to
Athens
Ohio.
I
We
see
about
30,000
unique
visitors
a
month
and
they
read
an
average
of
21
to
25
pages.
At
a
time
we
have
about
a
little
over
500
pages
of
content.
This
provides
free
business
listings
for
everyone
in
Athens
County.
It's
got
an
interactive
visitors
guide
on
it,
and
from
this
we
have
an
online
booking
service
that
allows
us
to
do
online
package
deals
for
our
hotels
for
special
events
or
slow
weekends,
and
it
also
allows
people
to
book
their
leisure
stays
as
well.
I
So
this
past
year
we've
booked
five
hundred
and
twenty-four
nights
for
a
total
of
over
fifty
nine
thousand
dollars
and
revenue
for
our
local
hotel.
So
this
is
with
basically
no
advertising
other
than
just
saying
Athens
Ohio
calm,
but
this
is
turning
out
to
be
a
huge
tool
for
us
and
something
that
our
hotel,
yours
appreciate,
organizations
that
we
belong
to.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
much
I
travel
learn
as
much
as
Leslie
shall
about
put
away.
D
M
I
Sixteen
thousand
miles
on
our
vehicle
this
year.
That's
a
lot,
but
we
are
a
part
of
a
lot
of
organizations.
I
do
strongly
believe
in
regional
partnerships
and
state
partnerships.
Visitors
don't
make
their
travel
plans
by
county
lines,
and
it's
really
important
for
us
in
our
unique
location
in
southeast
Ohio
to
partner,
together
with
our
surrounding
counties,
particularly
with
the
Hocking
and
over
to
Marietta,
to
create
a
really
unique
cluster
of
things
to
offer
I
serve
us
a
treasurer
of
Ohio's
Appalachian
country.
This
is
a
tourism
marketing
arm
of
the
governor's
office
of
Appalachia.
I
We
are
very
active
in
Ohio
River
Trail,
the
Appalachian
adventure
trail,
which
is
an
AR
seat
pilot
project
which
has
just
recently
picked
up,
Morgan
County
as
well,
and
then
a
host
of
other
things
on
there.
This
doesn't
include
a
lot
of
our
community
organizations,
but
certainly
we
show
up
and
when
people
ask
us
for
help,
we
try
and
be
there.
We
don't
always
have
the
resources
to
do
everything
but
I,
think
being
there
and
being
part
of
the
conversation
is
very
important
for
us.
I
So
we've
run
the
roads
$28,000
awarded
this
year
in
tourism
development
grants
that
includes
the
12,000
dollar
contribution
from
the
city
of
Athens,
and
we
thank
you
for
that,
and
this
is
a
list
of
the
recipients
for
this
year.
Typically,
that
grants
go
towards
advertising
and
marketing
so
that
way,
we're
able
to
sort
of
leverage
that
money
to
get
even
more
exposure
for
that
particular
festival
or
event
or
effort.
That's
happening
and
they're
required
to
include
our
logo
and
your
city
name
as
well,
and
thanks
for
this,
in
addition,
I
want
you
to
know.
I
We
also
donated
about
$6,000
in
sponsorships
separate
from
the
grants
this
year,
and
this
was
to
accommodate
people
who
came
to
us
with
last-minute
requests
or
to
help
festivals
or
events
that
needed
a
little
extra
financial
boost,
or
some
extra
advertising
run
for
them
and
for
some
new
events
that
came
along
that
needed
a
little
bit
of
additional
help
as
well.
So
really,
this
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars
added
with
the
sponsorship
shows
our
our
commitment
to
helping
people
and
using
our
resources
and
that
the
best
way
possible.
I
We
did
receive
a
economic
impact
report
on
tourism
this
year.
It
was
generated
by
the
state
of
Ohio.
They
do
a
state
report,
a
regional
report
and
then
a
County
report,
and
this
is
the
information
based
on
the
County
report.
They
protected
a
little
over
118
million
dollars
in
direct
and
indirect
sales
or
impact
as
a
result
of
our
efforts
in
tourism.
Tourism
generates
three
point:
three:
five
million
dollars
and
local
taxes
for
hyphens
County.
I
I
So
sometimes
in
the
states
at
a
hotel,
then
someone
gets
paid
and
they
use
that
money
to
buy
groceries
and
that
grocery
money
goes
to
pay
so
who
works
at
the
grocery
store
and
it
begins
to
roll
over,
and
that's
where
you
get
that
three
point:
three:
five
million
dollars
so
based
on
that
amount
for
every
dollar
invested
in
the
accdb,
and
this
is
based
on
our
total
budget.
We
have
$39
and
two
cent
direct
and
indirect
tax
revenue
return.
I
That's
pretty
amazing,
some
popular
things
in
Athens
County,
of
course,
dining
shopping
and
lodging
in
that
order
about.
Eighty
percent
of
our
visitors
are
what
we
call
day
trippers
and
we
are
constantly
working
to
move
that
20%
of
overnight
tripperz
to
something
a
little
higher
than
that
overall
Ohio
generates
about
thirty
eight
billion
dollars
in
direct
and
indirect
impact.
Our
share,
that
is
only
four
percent.
Some
people
would
say:
oh
wow,
just
staggering
opportunity
for
growth.
There
there's
really
nothing,
but
just
wide-open
opportunity
there.
I
We
have
grown
significantly
by
the
way
in
the
past
three
years
in
2005,
our
projected
direct
and
indirect
impacts
were
113
million,
so
we
have
gained
some
considerable
ground.
This
is
a
review
of
our
lodging
tax
income
for
this
year,
as
Jim
told
you,
the
city
bathroom
collects
a
3%.
Lodging
tax
at
the
county
also
collects
a
3%
lodging
tax,
so
those
properties
that
live
within
the
city
collect
6%
that
3%
that
goes
to
you
is
divided
up
into
several
categories.
I
One
of
those
is
ours,
and
we
received
35
percent
of
the
3
percent
that
you
generate
it's
a
little
confused
this
year,
we've
got
to
receive
a
little
over
$75,000
from
you.
We
received
85,000
852,
so
we
did
see
an
increase
in
our
city
tax.
This
year
same
with
the
county,
we
budgeted
to
receive
221
665.
We
received
227
for
24,
and
that
gives
us
a
total
lodging
tax
revenue
a
little
over
three
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
dollars.
Incidentally,
your
contribution
represents
about
25
percent
of
our
budget.
I
I
As
we
get
ready
for
2009.
We
will
come
back
to
you
in
January
with
the
full
report,
once
it's
been
approved
by
our
board,
but
we
will
have
more
advertising
money
and
we
will
be
doing
more
advertising.
In
fact,
we
have
a
project
going
on
with
onn
right
now
and
we
will
be
participating
in
the
state's
co-op
program
to
do
some
radio
advertising
in
our
region.
I
This
will
take
us
all
the
way
down
into
Charleston,
West,
Virginia
and
all
the
way
up
through
Central
Ohio
I'm,
increased
internet
activities,
including
that
infamous
web
2.0
efforts
online
package
deals
which
have
been
really
great
for
us
with
our
hotel
yours
this
year.
Electronic
newsletters
will
continue
and
we
will
be
developing
three
sister
sites
to
our
main
web
page
and
what
we
found
is
there's,
there's
so
many
great
stories
to
tell
and
that
it's
difficult
to
do
on
our
website,
which
is
mostly
calendar
and
attraction
and
business
listing
driven.
I
So
we
will
be
developing
three
sister
sites
next
year,
one
to
focus
on
the
arts.
One
to
focus
on
our
regional
flavor
CFI
will
be
a
very
strong
component
of
that.
It
was
kind
of
exciting
listening
to
what
she
talked
about,
because
it
will
play
so
well
into
that
website,
and
then
we
will
be
developing
a
wheels
website
which
started
out
as
a
Motorsports
website.
But
then
we
decided
we
couldn't
leave
off
the
bikes
and
the
skateboards
and
the
rollerblades
and
various
other
things
that
you
can
break
your
connect
with.
So.
D
I
Our
work
next
year
will
center
around
the
regional,
flavor
and
local
flavor
of
what's
going
on
here.
This
is
our
greatest
story
to
tell
this
is
why
we
were
named
one
of
the
best
hometowns
in
Ohio,
and
it
will
be
what
we
use
to
capitalize
to
attract
visitors
next
year,
in
addition
to
those
mainstay
programs
and
nowyou
events
that
we
have.
I
This
is
a
great
example
of
how
tourism
is
really
a
byproduct
of
great
community
development
and
when
your
community
does
a
good
job
and
pulling
together
its
assets,
how
they
may
be
limited,
they
may
be
vast,
but
it's
the
way
that
you
pull
those
assets
together
and
the
way
that
your
unique
characters
interact
with
each
other
to
carry
on
the
spirit
of
your
community.
That
really
begins
to
tell
the
story,
and
we
intend
to
leverage
that
and,
of
course,
founder
partnerships
with
hotels
and,
oh
you
to
target
group
travel
meetings
and
conferences.
I
Think
you're
gonna
get
off
easy.
Did
you
our
contract?
With
you
does
end
at
the
end
of
this
year
we
actually
have
one
more
quarter
because
we're
paid
a
quarter
late,
so
we
do
have
one
more
quarter
of
funding
that
will
come
to
us
in
2009
for
the
last
quarter
of
2008.
However,
we
are
requesting
consideration
for
a
renewal
of
our
contract
of
that
35
percent
that
you
give
us
for
the
next
three
years.
It
would
be
2009
through
2011
and
in
your
the
things
that
are
passed
around
for
you.
I
You
will
see
the
scope
of
services
agreement
that
was
approved
previously.
So
this
is
the
current
scope
of
services
that
were
under
and
in
some
ways
the
scope
of
services
is
a
little
on
the
big
side.
I
prefer
to
see
dollar
amounts
associated
out
there,
so
that
when
we
say
we
expect
to
get
eighty-five
thousand
dollars
from
you
in
2009
and
that's
going
to
be
broken
up
into
a
certain
amount
for
advertising.
A
certain
amount
for
marketing,
a
certain
amount
for
staffing
and
personnel
and
overhead
cost,
and
a
certain
amount
for
special
events
grant
funding.
I
E
Thank
you
page
for
presentation.
I
know:
you're
active
in
the
community
I
see
you
at
meetings
that
I
attend
as
well
a
question
again
about
that.
You
said
that
count.
The
amount
that
you'd
be
asking
me
for
for
next
year
was
that
listed
on
this,
the
nine
budget.
Here's
that's
the
yeah
eighty-five
pounds
that
correct.
I
Yeah
budget
drafts
that
you
have
is
we
always
base
our
next
year's
budget
on
what
we
received
the
previous
year,
and
history
tells
us
that
we've
been
able
to
really
build
on
that
every
arena
that
we'll
probably
collect
more.
So
what
we're
asking
for
would
be
that
35
percent,
which
right
now
is
about
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year.
D
D
E
Think
I
think
we're
lucky
here
in
Athens
that
frequently
on
a
weekend,
there
is
a
lot
to
do.
There's
so
many
different
things
happening
throughout
the
year
and
again,
that's
a
credit
to
a
number
of
people,
including
yourself,
so
I
think
we're
fortunate
that
if
we
don't
want
to
go
on
a
car
trip
to
head
out
of
town
that
there's
things
happening
here
in
our
own
community
and
that's
apparent
tonight.
After
listening
to
everything
listed
there
there's
a
few
things
that
I
saw
that
I
wasn't
aware
of
that.
We're
happening
the.
H
E
Applaud
your
web
presence
I
just
listened
to
something
on
NPR
not
too
long
ago
about
their
new
director
and
is
really
pushing
a
bigger
web
presence
for
National,
Public
Radio.
So
I
think
it's
something
that's
inevitable
is
happening
that
the
web
is
I'm,
gonna,
be
continued
to
be
a
resource
for
all
of
us
and.
I
It
allows
us
to
capitalize
on
the
other
stories
that
are
out
there,
that
are
being
told
about
our
region,
and
the
soul
of
Athens
is
a
great
example
of
that
we
get
emails
from
people
all
over.
The
world
we
can
tell
by
our
web
hits
where
those
people
are
coming
in
from
and
they
link
from
soul
of
Athens.
That's
our
fourth
or
fifth
major
linking
site
that
comes
in
come
to
our
website.
So
we
know
that
people
are
seeing
those
kinds
of
things
out
there
and
the
more
of
those
things
that
we
can
see
down.
E
E
I
I
D
D
I
D
D
I
Ohio
Film
Commission,
which
has
contacted
us
and
asked
us
to
sort
of
set
up
our
own
Film
Commission
within
the
city,
because
of
not
just
the
unique
visual
elements
that
we
haven't
happens,
but
because
of
the
infrastructure
that
we
provide
and
without
hotels,
we
have
restaurants.
We
have
times
of
the
year
when
it's
very
quiet
here
and
we
have
trained
professionals,
particularly
through
the
school
of
film
and
just
some
people
here
who
just
have
some
natural
talent
that
they've
sort
of
pursued
on
their
own.
I
Now
we
do
know
that
we've
had
a
couple
of
tractions
contacted
by
film
company
currently
and
we're
waiting
to
hear
kind
of
what
that's
going
to
turn
out
to
be.
But
the
film
commissioned
the
Ohio
Film
Commission
feels
like
we
have
a
fair
amount
of
potential
here
and
we
will
be
pursuing
that
very
early
on.
You
know
no
incest,
so.
H
I
Think
that's
a
really
great
question.
All
of
the
indicators
that
we
are
receiving
from
both
our
state
office
and
our
national
destination
marketing
organizations.
In
fact,
I
had
another
article
that
came
through
today
is
that
people
are
going
to
travel
less,
but
mostly
closer
I,
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense.
I
So,
instead
of
taking
the
600
mile
trek,
they're
gonna
take
150
to
300
mile
track
and
for
us
it
bodes
very
well
when
you
look
at
the
metropolitan
areas
that
are
within
300
miles
of
Athens
and
clearly
we'll
be
capitalizing
on
that
short
drive,
sort
of
unique
opportunity
now
I'm
in
2009
and
I.
Think
that's
what
makes
the
regional
flavor
aspect
really
important
is
that
people
will
be
able
to
drive
a
short
distance
and
be
somewhere
that's
completely
different
from
what
their
hometown
community
is
like.
We
do
not
anticipate
it
going
down.
I
We
do
anticipate
it
to
be
slightly
flat.
However,
at
this
summer,
when
the
other
counties
were
complaining
that
their
business
was
slow,
we
had
a
record
quarter
so
right,
particularly
during
those
what
used
to
be
historically
slow
times
for
us
now
with
the
attraction
of
brew
week,
which
brings
people
from
all
over
the
country,
and
these
are
people
that
are
going
to
come
regardless,
they
love
their
micro
brews,
and
these
are
things
that
they
save
up
all
year.
I
I
Lot
of
it
also
has
to
do
this.
Past
year
we
saw
our
first
year
with
the
two
new
hotels
on
board
for
the
city
and
there's
a
lot
of
growth
where
that's
concerned,
but
you
have
to
remember,
we
were
losing
that
money
to
Hocking
County.
We
were
really
losing
a
lot
of
money,
so
just
the
the
amount
that
one
hotel
can
generate
off
of
those
ten
to
fifteen
or
so
big.
I
Oh,
you
weekends
out
of
the
year
and
weeks
like
through
week
and
the
pop-up
festival,
where
we
tend
to
fill
up
being
able
to
hang
on
to
that
money.
It's
not
just
the
hotel
stay,
it's
the
gas,
it's
the
food,
it's
the
trinkets!
It's
everything
that
people
tend
to
do
wherever
it
is
that
they're
staying,
not
necessarily
where
they're
visiting,
so
we're
glad
to
be
able
to
retain
that.
It
also
means
me
after
work.
Harder
is
the
slow
times
to
be
able
to
fill
to
more
hotels,
mm-hmm.
D
I
That's
part
of
our
efforts
for
next
year
we
do
have
a
hotel,
your's
Council
that
we
meet
with
every
quarter.
We
evaluate
the
lodging
tax.
We
do
have
to
remember
that
it's
proprietary
information,
so
we
don't
show
things
that
are
specific
to
the
hotels,
but
we
do
talk
about
what
our
growth
looks
like
and
what
its
projected
to
be
and
we
work
with
them
to
identify
slow
times
and
they're
very
comfortable
and
calling
and
telling
us
I've
got
a
slow
month
coming
up.
C
C
For
continuing
their
work-
and
we
have
to
remember
that
when
he
moved
into
this
position
three
years
ago,
all
the
equipment
that
he
inherited
was
pretty
overwhelmingly
used
out
already,
so
he
probably
doesn't
need
to
replace
some
of
this
I've
had
conversations
with
several
council
members,
one
of
the
conversations
involved
continuing
the
contract
in
$15,000
for
purchasing
equipment
this
year
and
then
looking
at
how
things
are
next
year.
We
do
another
15,000
and
then
I
heard
20,000.
D
C
N
D
F
D
C
C
F
Give
some
comments
that
I
have
from
from
the
street
department
Andy
stone
as
you'll
remember,
this
was
began
with
a
76
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
CDBG
fund,
and
what's
happened
in
that
area?
Is
there
have
been
about
$30,000
and
change?
Orders
and
what's
happened?
Are
some
difficult
situations
with
a
storm
sewer
in
front
of
one
of
the
residents
and
another
they,
and
so
they
had
some
extra
pavement
removal
also
when
they
discovered
a
manhole
cover
about
ten
inches
under
the
pavement.
So
it's
just
been
that
kind
of
complicated
thing.
L
Pretty
much
it's
been
a
surprise
going
along.
If
you
remember
this
was
bid
out
first
time
there
were
no
takers
on
the
original
price,
so
we
upped
the
bid
amount.
What
has
occurred?
The
last
additional
thirty
thousand-
that's
needed
I.
Guess
there
was
a
I
understand
about
three
different
things
and
one
is
a
storm
sewer.
That's
in
the
wrong
place.
L
D
L
B
L
It
was
supposed
to
be
an
easy
fix,
but
if
you
remember
what
happened
is
that
we
start
saying:
okay,
let's
look
at
the
the
water
breaks
underneath
and
the
junction
of
Mayor
Marion
Granville.
That's
a
friend
of
Mary
nut
my
and
had
at
least
three
that
I
know
was
in
the
past
60
years
or
so,
and
and
at
that
point
it's
like
why
not
fixed
that
and
part
of
this.
This
is
one
of
those.
This
is
learning
experience.
L
For
me,
one
of
the
things
that
comes
to
sharp
relief
with
this
is
that
when
we
hadn't
talked
about
planning
infrastructure
improvements
and
and
most
of
time,
I
was
always
thinking.
Oh,
we
just
do
the
as
an
afterthought
to
the
piping,
underneath
it's
a
piping,
that's
more
expensive
than
the
road
itself.
So
that's
that's
where
you
start
seeing
that
the
cost
of
trying
to
run
both
of
these
activities
in
tandem,
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
in
the
future
and
I
say
that,
because
the
idea
is
to
say:
let's
do
it.
L
P
P
E
D
G
C
C
C
C
So
parking
garage
fund
is
going
to
be
deleting
a
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
thirty
five
dollars
and
fifty
four
cents
that
will
be
divided
among
the
water
fund,
the
sewer
fund
and
the
garbage
fund.
These
are
pre
payments
that
were
just
put
into
the
into
a
fund
for
holding
purposes
and
now
we're
moving
them.
The
way
they
should
did.
I
deputy
I
didn't
I
explained
that
okay.
C
B
B
O
And
for
what
else,
judges
Spears
here
yeah
for
whatever
reason
between
you
know
our
art
auditor's
office
and
the
state
auditor's
office.
They
decided
that
they
would
put
the
pre
payments
on
utility
accounts
because
it
was
not
yet
applied
specifically
to
water
sewer
garbage.
There
was
an
excess
of
say
$30
in
the
customers.
Account
and
they've
got
a
32-hour
credit,
but
they
haven't
used
water
or
sewer
trash.
O
So
for
liked
about
the
last
three
years
there
haven't
been
any
distributions
out
of
the
on
account
fund
on
our
records.
Now
it
has
an
impact
of
the
customers
bill.
It's
just
the
the
revenue
that
went
in
to
cover
that
was
going
into
the
fund
over
here
and
being
credited
to
their
account
over
here,
and
this
is
to
correct
that
and
then,
from
this
point
forward,
we're
not
going
to
be
moving
that
money
into
the
parking
garage
wandering.
O
B
A
good
thing:
you
know
what
I
find
kind
of
amazing
and
again
this
is
not
your
fault,
it
really.
No
one.
This
is
going
back
away,
so
I'm,
not
chucking
spirit.
So
please
don't
misunderstand,
but
I've
been
a
fairly
avid
reader.
You
know
the
annual
audit,
the
state
audit
report,
I,
don't
ever
remember
a
comment,
a
finding
a
it's
never
been
mentioned.
One
time,
no.
O
No
and
it's
it's
a
it's
an
issue
that
arose
in
some
conversations
with
jail,
urug,
our
accounting
firm,
that
does
our
translation
from
we
do
a
cash
basis,
accounting
and
at
the
end
of
the
year.
They
they
change
us
over
to
accrual
accounting
and
then
create
the
annual
reports.
That
then
becomes
an
automatic
state
report
and
basically
it
came
out
of
an
investigation
or
during
had
asked
me
to
look
for
some
information
on
some
trial
balances
that
didn't
agree
and
that's
basically
what
started.
C
L
A
J
That's
just
keep
that
in
mind,
because
that's
kind
of
what
we
have
to
do
and
I
want
it
to
not
be
be
meeting
on
Christmas
Eve.
We
have
to
put
forward
or
close
to
Christmas
Eve
I,
don't
even
know
what
day
it
is.
We
have
to
put
forward
a
staffing
ordinance
with
some
small
modifications
in
the
Appropriations
ordinance
and
perhaps
transfer
so
just
to
start,
the
the
ball
go.
Rolling
I
wrote
all
my
things
out,
because
I
can
feel
them
leaving
my
head
at
this
point
in
time.
J
G
J
Those
Easter
colors
are
the
ones
we're
going
to
focus
on
first,
but
this
is
pretty
much
what
our
appropriation
ordinance
looks
like
in
the
general
and
so,
for
example,
the
auditor
furnished
us
with
the
total
100
category.
That
would
mean
salaries
for
all
the
people
in
the
staffing
ordinance,
longevity
workers,
comp
and
everything
in
between
so
you've
seen
some
of
these
numbers
before
they're,
just
all
on
the
sheet.
J
J
The
most
obvious
one
is
that
we
requested
and
asked
the
mayor
if
you
would
consider
moving
the
personnel
that
are
currently
in
other
admin
up
to
his
office,
and
you
know
it
just
seems
like
a
more
logical
thing
and
then
have
other
administration
just
be
not
a
slush
fund,
but
instead
just
what
it
is.
Other
things
that
don't
fit
and
you'll
see
that
perhaps
in
a
minute
as
we
go
through
this
so
and
then
after
that,
so
we're
going
to
have
the
yellows
and
the
purple
line.
J
The
purple
line
is
still
not
complete,
add
it
together
and
there
will
be
a
final
amount
in
that
column
to
hundreds
two
three
hundreds
after
that,
the
debt
service,
the
capital
outlay
and
the
rest
is
all
pretty
straightforward.
So
we're
not
as
far
away
as
we
might
see
him,
except
it's
relatively
complex
yeah
at
this
time,
okay,
so
walking
through
what
we've
done
over
the
last
few
weeks,
the
auditor's
office
in
the
audit
ourself.
J
Actually,
last
time
we
met
recommended
a
systematic
approach
to
assessing
administrative
cost,
the
cost
that
proprietary
funds
paid
for
the
mayor
services,
the
personnel
director
services
and
the
auditor
services,
because
and
all
of
the
above.
So
we
have
the
other
administration
costs
shown
and
you
can
walk
down,
they're
going
to
be
in
that
first
column,
yellow
you'll
notice.
J
The
mayor
doesn't
have
to
pay
for
himself,
nor
does
the
treasurer
council
isn't
contributing,
but
when
you
get
down
below
you
can
see,
for
example,
the
word
according
the
recommendations
of
the
auditor
we're
going
to
take
10,000
from
tourism
because
there
are
transactions
there
that
are
covered
according
to
the
algorithm,
they
use
twitch,
you've,
seen
pages
on
notice,
streets.
Ninety
one
thousand
two
hundred
and
twenty
six
dollars
continuing
down
recreation.
We
actually
made
a
decision.
You
can
tell
us.
J
We
are
totally
focused
on
this,
but
actually
recreation
should
have
should
be
paying
double
that
amount
into
the
funds
but
work.
We
know
that
they're
still
shady
and
we
don't
want
to
overburden
them,
but
sooner
or
later,
they're
gonna
have
to
start
paying
part
we're
going
down
the
chute.
Looking
at
the
costs.
J
Thank
you,
parking
garage
about
15,000
water
fund,
137
thousand
sewer
fund
and
then
finally
garbage,
and
so
we
get
about
to
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
a
half
a
million
dollars
being
moved
over
to
the
general
fund
for
youths
in
the
general
fund.
Some
of
it
will
and
as
we
out
as
we
appropriate
the
money,
it
will
be
used
to
cover
the
cost
of
using
the
facilities
in
the
general
in
the
general
fund
activities.
Okay,
so
does
anybody
have
a
question
about
that
line?
J
M
J
Streets,
for
example-
and
it
was
basically
you
know,
sort
of
I
guess
I
could
characterize
this
grab
it
out
here.
It
would
be
the
way
I
mean
cuz
it
and
water
was
a
half
a
mil
to
three
hundred
thousand.
So
where
was
three
hundred
thousand,
and
you
know
what
was
the
basis
for
it
and
to
his
credit,
Ray
sat
down
sharpen
this
pencil
and
did
the
auditor
thing
and
figured
out
a
basis
what
we
do
appreciate
that
it's
not
as
flashiest
or
if
somebody's
really
cooked.
K
J
D
J
Fund
again,
Ron
Forrest,
and
especially
those
three
mechanics
out
there
at
the
service
garage
okay.
So
that's
basically
based
on
the
auditors
recommendation
that
we've
seen
already
and
again
since
it's
done
systematically
and
with
a
thought
toward
withstanding
an
audit.
This
is
basically
what
we
have
now
you
can
quibble
with
one
or
another
of
those.
J
We
did
not
reduce
anybody's
amount
in
this
case,
because
the
internal
service
fund
is
more
common
than
its
then
the
third
column
in
yellow
is
the
utilities
and
we're
we're
going
towards
central
payment
of
utilities
out
of
the
auditor's
office
and
basically
I
think
that
when
I
talk
to
you
to
them,
think
they're
and
all
at
first
to
that
anyway,
I
try
to
establish
what
we
should
put
in
some
utility
to
sing
about
1.4
for
natural
gas
and
electric,
and
those
of
you
that
talk
with
people
in
that
area
might
go
screw
and
check
the
utility
costs
on
the
second
sheet.
L
J
J
At
that
point
it
must
have
been
getting
parsimonious
because
I
swagged
it
out
to
4,200,
but
maybe
it
has
to
be
more,
but
this
is
something
I
want
you,
those
of
you
who
dealt
with
separate
funds
to
look
at
if
you
go
down
and
look
at,
let's
say
water
and
sewer
plants,
we're
talking
about
a
huge
amount
of
money
for
electricity
and
or
natural
gas,
and
so
those
red
clumps
that
are
off
to
the
side
or
Vista
I.
Guess
I
want
you
to
check
me
out
and
see:
okay,
we're
close
I.
J
J
J
Money
we
can
have
a
huge
party
at
the
wastewater
plant,
okay,
so
looking
at
utilities,
you
see
they
don't
really
come
up
and
be
in
any
substantial
way
until
we
get
down
to
let's
say
lands
and
buildings,
but
especially
this
is
the
one
that
makes
me
stay
awake
at
night.
That
would
be
the
water
fund
plant,
where
we're
talking
about
a
third
of
a
million
dollars
and
utilities,
and
you
can
see
I
was
relatively
conservative.
J
That's
why
I'm
challenging
you
to
go
through
and
look
at
it
and
then
also
the
sewer
plant
again
sewer
fund
the
plant
part
three
hundred
fourteen
thousand
I
mean
so
we
have
to
have
this
money
in
the
budget
to
cover
the
cost
of
those
things.
One
thing
that
worries
me
a
little
bit
right
now,
looking
at
these
expenditures
at
the
end
of
October,
these
some
of
them
seem
a
little
small
short,
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
Okay,
questions
up
till
now
is.
D
J
To
anyone
yes,
yeah
I
would
say
that
the
last
thing,
the
one
thing
you
need
to
do
for
your
funds
again
go
back
and
think
about
what
you
found.
When
you
talked
you
can
talk
and
certainly
well.
The
mayor
will
make
the
final
recommendation
on
this
I
guess
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
afford
them,
but
what's
the
purple
is
the
one
that
is
Kurt
was
kind
of
the
current
one
and
I.
Don't
know
what
to
do.
J
F
L
H
F
D
L
D
L
J
L
J
D
Q
L
L
I
also
rolled
in
I,
did
find
the
spreadsheet
that
Ray
had
about
the
different
portions
of
200-300.
That
would
be
related
to
the
personnel
change
and
I
put
that
in.
So
that's
why
it
went
from
25,000,
150
I'm,
not
sure
about
this.
This
is
trouble.
I
start
finding.
Some
numbers
are
much
higher
than
I
expected,
so
we
have.
L
Well,
that's
it
just
rolling
it
in
that
the
way
it
was
it's
mixed
looks
a
lot
higher
than
I
thought
in
terms
of
the
100
series.
I'm
not
happy
with
all
that
too,
because
some
of
them
did
not
increase
as
much
as
I
expected.
Considering
the
unions
and
the
extra
I
think
what
I
have
to
do
is
we
calculate
the
overtime
we.
L
Been
looking
historically,
what
it
is,
it's
very
hard
to
figure
out
what?
Where
do?
You
would
start
a
stop?
Okay,
just
most
because
you
have
a
gradiation
between
the
higher-ups
having
less
overtime,
having
more
overtime,
and
then
it
seems
specifically,
it's
averaging
everything
from
you
know
as
little
as
40
hours
of
old
or
no
overtime.
I
noticed
there's
a
couple
over
times
in
there
that
shouldn't
have
overtime
anymore
to
160
hours
of
overtime.
In
some
cases,
and
those
are
the
ones
I
found,
I'm
sure
I'm
working
my
way
through
tripod.
L
G
J
J
I
started
off.
You
see
this
is
from
raid,
this
expenditure
report.
This
is
everything
so
Beth
look.
Look
at
that
one
for
a
minute.
This
might
help
you
to
understand
the
budget
areas
where
you're
working
the
last
two
columns
are
especially
important.
Maybe
the
third
one
also
so
what
I
tried
to
do
was
to
go
through
and
bring
together
for
2009
for
the
mayor's
office
and
that
we
did
this
independently
in
terms
of
supplies,
I
thought.
J
If
we
bring
all
of
the
people
who
are
currently
and
other
admin
up
to
his
office,
we
had
to
increase
his
supply
line.
You
know
that
was
basically
it
so
I
went
through
and
trying
to
ask
some
questions.
I
came
up
with
so
many
questions
like
one
of
them,
one
of
them's,
all
that
yellow
bilious
yellow
is
the
copiers.
You
know,
I
mean
one
time
is
plate
paid
one
place,
another
time,
another
place
down
below
and
another
thing
that
drives
me
crazy.
J
You
know
the
different
professional
services
most
of
them
are
reimbursed
and
I
asked
his
opinion.
You
want
them
in
your
budget
and
you
want
them
another
admin.
Basically,
that's
what
I.
Those
were
some
of
the
questions,
and
you
can
ask
those
questions
yourself,
based
on
for
the
funds
you're
working
with
what
you've
done
so
far,
I
promise
to
do
other
admin.
So
that's
what
I
did
and
then
I
wanted.
J
If
you
go
back
and
look
on
page
five,
taking
a
look
at
this,
you
can
see,
we
just
basically
moved
the
materials
up
to
the
mayor's
office,
move
the
personnel
up
to
the
mayor's
office.
It's
easier
to
understand
if
you
have
other
end
men
being
a
place
where
we
pay
insurance,
our
board
of
election
materials,
delinquent
tax
and
advertising
auditor
and
treasurer's
fees,
all
of
our
boards
and
commissions
in
the
cost
to
negotiation.
So
other
admin
is
not
a
$600,000
slush
fund
anymore,
so
it's
a
more
focused
fund,
and
so
we
don't
have
it
down.
J
So
this
is
where
we're
going
I'd
like
to
hear
from
you
as
you
proceed,
talk
to
Ray
talk
to
the
mayor,
talk
to
do
whatever,
whatever
you
need
and
let's
get
to
a
point
where
we
know
where
we
are-
and
we
don't
even
know
right
now
what
our
anticipated
receipts
are
in
the
general
fund
and
that's
the
part
that
scares
me.
We
do
I
have
anticipated
receipts
in
a
proprietary
fund.
Those
are
pretty
straightforward.
J
It's
really,
you
know,
I
can't
say
enough
how
much
of
a
champ
the
officer
is
office
and
Ray
especially
has
been
in
this
time
getting
this
material
to
us.
Okay,
a
couple
more
things
that
I
would
like
to
propose
and
I
could
put
up
a
position.
Freeze
resolution
like
they
had
in
1996,
86
I
talked
to
the
mayor
about
it
today.
I
didn't
want
to
breath.
You
know
blindside
him
with
it.
D
J
J
Don't
think
we'll
be
doing
that?
Okay,
the
second
thing
that
I
would
like
to
propose
and
I
wish
I
had
it
in
black
and
white,
but
I
don't
I
would
like
to
make
a
modification
to
the
staffing
ordinance
last
year
in
a
moment
of
getting
along,
we
passed
a
very
loose
staffing
ordinance.
It
allowed
any
money
in
100
to
be
used
for
whatever
purpose
you
wanted
them,
it's
a
little
out
of
hand.
J
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
tighten
that
up
and
go
back
from
as
needed,
which
means
know
if
there's
money,
you
spend
it
to
a
discrete
number
of
interviews.
Each
office
and
I
ask
again
the
mayor
about
this.
He
didn't
have
any
big
problem
so
that
I
think
he
had
arrived
at
the
same
conclusion
that
morning
himself.
Is
that
right?
Yes,.
D
J
So-
and
this
is
a
it
was
loose
to
say
the
least
okay,
so
that's
then
Debbie's
going
to
go
back
to
the
old,
find
the
old
language
for
us
and
we'll
have
that
up
for
first
reading
the
serious
objection.
So
this
is
a
case
where
there's
a
lot
of
fluff
that's
been
used,
that's
not
going
to
be
there
next
year.
So
let's
get
it
focused
on
utilities,
uniforms
and
stuff
that
matters
okay.
So
our
timeline
is
either
the
third
of
December
or
the
8th
of
December
for
a
first
reading.
J
J
J
J
Well,
you
know
that
I
feel
pretty
confident
about
water
and
sewer,
because
he
has
pretty
told
me
what's
in
it,
yeah.
A
J
P
Miscellaneous
we
went
a
higher
universities,
they
change
the
way
they're
doing
their
fuel
cards
and
became
sweat
car
they
have
just
now.
Today,
we've
received
a
couple
of
days
in
August
of
September
and
all
of
October's
few
organized.
That
means
we
have
that
two
pegs
and
the
next
month
on,
of
course,
have
also
in
this
year.
There's
concern
and
Ray
was
just
now
looking
into
it,
whether
or
not
we're
gonna
need
additional
appropriations
for
some
of
these
departments
really.
So
what
you
are
looking
at,
it's
thinking,
we've.
J
Yeah
I
was
thinking
that
what
we
would
do
is
probably
take
the
amount
between
what
was
appropriate
and
what
was
expended
this
year
and
added
to
our
estimates
for
next
year.
I
think
we
talked
about
that
before
Paula
came
in
you
know,
so,
in
other
words,
we'd
save
that
money
in
for
payment
of
those
bills
in
the
future
would.
P
G
J
O
We,
when
you
are
expecting
bills
for
December,
you
have
to
have
a
purchase
order
or
an
encumbrance
in
place
prior
to
December,
and
when
you
make
the
payment
for
the
December
bills,
it's
going
to
be
in
the
will
be
in
the
following
year.
But
it's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
Urich
does
they.
They
adjust
that
back
to
the
prior
year,
so
that
it
appears
in
the
proper
place
in
the
financial
reports,
run.
O
Years
because
we've
had
large
amounts
of
expenditures
that
were
made
in
in
say
in
2007,
for
which
there
were
no
encumbrances
against
the
fund
balance
so
the
next
year
we
thought
we
had
100
or
150
thousand
dollars
more
in
that
fund
than
we
really
did,
because
once
we
found
out
that
we
didn't
have
the
encumbrances
in
place,
then
we
had
to
do
ordinances
with
counsel.
You
know
and
encumber
the
current
year's
money
to
pay
for
the
last
year's
bill.
B
Know
right
in
the
private
sector,
we
call
it
an
accrual
and
and
you're
used
to
getting
these
bills
every
month
and
when
they
don't
show
up
you'll
always
plug
in
you
know
the
average
year-to-date
number
for
that
month
so
that
you
know
that
where
you
are
in
the
budget-
and
you
know
that
you
may
be
getting
into
trouble
and
you've
got
to
cut
back
inside,
do
we
not
have
some
kind
of
a
system?
That's
allowing
that
to
happen.
O
Well,
I
guess
the
question
becomes
who's
responsible
for
doing
the
tracking
I
mean
we
try
to
point
things
out
to
department,
heads
or
to
the
mayor
or
to
whomever,
but
it's
primarily
a
magic
matter
of
budgeting.
So
whoever
is
responsible
for
executing
the
budgets
should
be
tracking
it
and
making
sure
that
they're
getting
their
bills
paid
and
if
the
invoice
isn't
coming
in
calling
somebody
and
saying
hey
I've
got
to
pay
your
bill.
Where
is.
B
G
L
Part
of
the
the
system,
the
bills
for
the
gasoline
from
oh,
you
got
slowed
down
quite
a
bit.
There
was
a
period
in
August
actually
where
the
pumps
they
changed
over
their
system,
their
billing
sister,
the
card
system
for
carrying
it
over
and
that
that
got
that
messed
up
a
little
bit.
July
we
just
resolved.
There
was
a
discrepancy
we
had
to
go
through.
We
really
don't
get
the
bill
in
a
form,
that's
easy
to
actually
find
out
what
goes
wrong
when
it
does
go
wrong.
L
We
can
have
a
certain
amount
of
money,
a
listing
of
this
type
of
stuff.
We
could
actually
get
a
listing
up
the
cards
and
the
cars,
but
the
total
doesn't
match
up.
Sometimes-
and
that's
you
know,
I
think
we
had
I
think
a
sharper
showing
me
where
one
gas
tank
absorbed
a
thousand
gallons
for
some
reason.
I
don't
have
what
I
don't
know
what
cart
holder
thousand
gallons,
but
that
shows
you
something
several
people
use
some
same
card.
Obviously
well,
that's
all
the
same
time.
No,
that
doesn't
you
know,
that's
the
question.
L
You
know
these
are
the
things
we
have
to
look
at
when
we're
doing
this,
the
other
one
in
terms
of
the
the
other
and
the
other
problem
we
have
is,
of
course,
as
a
bus
transit
system,
which
we
were
running
three
months
behind
in
the
star
this
year.
So
we
have.
We
have
budget
deficits
in
that
right
now,
just
because
we
paid
last
year's
bills
with
this
year's
money.
So
these
are
the.
This
is
an
ongoing
attacks,
so.
P
P
B
P
P
B
I
can
understand
how
we
got
to
the
system
that
we
have
now,
and
it
goes
back
at
least
to
mayor's
prior
to
you
that
I'm,
aware
of
but
there's
no
point
in
utility
bills
bouncing
to
all
the
desk
before
they
get
paid.
You
usually
don't
have
enough
time
to
for
everybody
to
look
at
it
and
to
people
to
misplace
it
before
it
gets
paid.
Yeah.
O
O
B
P
Q
What
this
makes
me
think
of
this
conversation
is
that
at
the
end
of
the
year
last
year,
knowing
that
we
were
going
through
a
transition
in
the
administration,
our
appropriation
was
really
lean
in
MEA
we
put
in
the
salaries
and
we
put
in
kind
of
bare-bones
for
utilities
and
for
two
and
three
hundred
series,
because
we
knew
that
there.
You
know
there
may
be
some
changes
and
there
may
be
some
evaluation
of
priorities.
Q
So
we
may
want
to
look
back
also
at
the
appropriation
from
the
year
before,
because
we've
had
a
lot
of
these
conversations
where
things
have
come
up
when
you
said
the
professional
services
and
training
where
we
had
intentionally
an
extremely
lean
budget
at
the
end
of
the
year
last
year.
We
need
to
do
a
little
reality
check
about
you.
Q
G
J
L
I
again,
the
tendency
is
it's
trying
to
make
the
budget
moon
just
so.
We
know
what
we
have
for
the
carryover,
so
we
can.
Actually
you
know
we
have
to
stay
within
our
resources.
Certified
resources,
the
the
question
always
arises.
Can
we
anticipate
before
they
have
halfway
point
that
what's
gonna
cost
and
that's
always
going
to
be
a
difficult
call,
some
things
you
know,
I'm
finding
some
things
are
very
seasonal.
Some
things
don't
come
to
the
you
know,
uniforms
or
longevity
or
even
gas
bills.
They
come
at
certain
points
of
time.
L
I
mean
natural
gas,
we're
not
going
to
get
a
whole
use
of
that
during
the
summer.
So
the
idea
is,
it
will
be,
will
oscillate
in
terms
of
use
and
therefore
they
say.
Ok,
we
can
take
pick
a
halfway
point,
which
is
what
we're
doing
in
June
to
try
and
double
it.
It's
not
reflective
of.
What's
going
on
and
then
I
say,
I
I
have
a
tendency,
try
working
on
the
numbers,
I
got
kind
of.
If
you,
if
you
notice
what
I
gave
out
this
was
done
at
6:54.
L
So
it's
still
a
looking
product
progress
secret
call,
a
Rick
doing
the
same
things
that
Gertrude
deja
vu
here,
but
the
fact
is
is
that
you
know
prior
try
trying
to
monitor
what's
been
going
on
from
year
to
year.
It's
not
always
is
not
always
easy
because
you
have
Cavill
across
sometimes
put
in
and
they
they
they
fall
into
services.
J
A
D
P
J
L
Look
at
rainy
and
travel
as
two
areas
and
I
realize
I
didn't
do
much
of
a
dish
here
kisses
to
be
doing
things
in
City,
but
again
I
thought.
You
know
we'll
have
new
code
officers
online
will
have
a
eventually
nasty
online,
so
there's
going
to
be
training.
A
child
aspects
of
that,
too
will
find
will
find
the
bucks.
J
M
Well,
speaking
of
gas
and
vehicle
fuel
use
two
items
on
my
agenda
tonight:
our
green
fleets,
policy
for
the
city
of
Athens
and
the
possibility
of
natural
gas
aggregation
for
residential
customers.
The
green
fleets
and
policy
is
something
I've
been
working
on
for
a
while
now
and
I'd
like
to
get
it
in
place
by
the
end
of
the
year
possible.
M
For
the
green
fleets,
I
would
like
to
just
go
over
it.
Part
of
it
here
and
I
was
working
on
on
this
several
months
ago,
and
then
Paula
got
feedback
from
some
city
departments,
and
so
I
know
with
her
about
a
week
ago.
I
guess
and
got
feedback
and
I
also
set
some
last
time
introduced
this
I
don't
have
any
goals.
I
didn't
have
any
area
numbers
in
for
first,
what
we're
looking
to
achieve
so
I
set
some
numbers
based
on
what
other
cities
have
done
or
have
been
undergoing
a
similar
policy
implementation.
M
M
Definitions
is
the
second
part
which
we
shouldn't
spend
any
time
on.
The
third
part
is
establishing
a
baseline,
really,
if
we're
going
to
measure
any
progress
that
we're
making
towards
reducing
pollution
and
reducing
our
filius.
We
need
to
know
where
we
are
today,
and
this
is
where
we
I'm
looking
to
get
exact
numbers
on
the
current
fleet,
the
average
fleet
efficiency
in
terms
of
miles
per
gallon,
in
order
to
get
numbers
of
how
much
fuel
were
using,
how
many
miles
we're
driving
if
available
and
there's
a
number
of
other
things
listed
there.
M
M
The
next
part
is
the
actual
green
fleets
policy,
and
this
outlines
a
number
of
things
that
will
help
us
reach
our
goal
and
first
part
is
that
will
purchase
the
efficient
vehicles,
also
look
for
hybrids
and
alternative
fuel
vehicles.
If
they're
available
able
to
meet
the
needs
for
that
vehicle
and
within
a
certain
price
differential
of
the
standard
vehicle
that
would
have
been
purchased
otherwise
and
I
set
that
at
a
20
percent
price
differential.
M
M
This
could
be
accomplished
pretty
much
immediately
if
we
could
find
if
the
university
had
it
in
their
tanks.
It's
something
that's
used
in
a
lot
of
cities
right
now
in
regular
diesel
vehicles,
you
just
use
regular
diesel
with
a
blend
of
biodiesel
and
that's
what
you
pump
into
your
vehicle.
So
this
would
reduce
our
petroleum-based
fuel
by
a
huge
amount
within
that
could
be
done
as
soon
as
either
the
University
starts
using
biodiesel
or
if
we
find
another
supplier
for
for
diesel,
Part
D
is
too.
M
It
doesn't
say
how
many
years
I
was
really
looking
at
this
as
sort
of
a
three-year
outline
so
2009
to
12,
and
then
the
revaluation
at
that
point.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
is
achievable
in
terms
of
replacing
older
vehicles
getting
rid
of
vehicles
that
we
don't
use
very
often
that
are
inefficient.
M
M
The
next
is
to
decrease
the
fleet
size
by
5%
by
the
beginning
of
2010.
I'll
have
to
check
the
numbers,
but
I
believe
Andy.
Stone
has
already
accomplished
that
this
year,
so
it's
it's
a
great
testament
to
his
work
on
this
on
these
types
of
issues
already,
so
we
can
check
that
one
off
the
list.
M
It
sets
a
secondary
goal
of
another
5%
by
2012,
so
that's
something
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
accomplish,
and
the
last
section
is
to
retrofit
our
diesel
vehicles
that
are
the
older
diesel
vehicles
that
produce
the
most
amount
of
pollution.
They
have
the
greatest
impact
on
local
air
quality
due
to
particulate
emissions
and
other
emissions.
M
This
sets
a
goal
to
retrofit
those
with
pollution,
captioning
devices
that
are
more
modern.
It
sets
a
deadline
of
2012
I.
Think
Columbus.
Just
recently
did
this
to
a
hundred
percent
of
their
diesel
vehicles
and
they've.
They
did
it
within
a
year,
so
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
shoot
for
and
we
can
definitely
achieve
in
terms
of
implementing
these
different
goals.
The
next
section
outlines
about
a
dozen
different
ways
that
we
can.
We
can
accomplish
these
goals.
M
M
In
my
opinion,
it
mentions
a
few
other
things
like
looking
at
the
feasibility
of
a
natural
gas
refueling
station,
assuming
that
we
get
natural
gas
vehicles
at
some
point
and
possibly
looking
at
a
vehicle
sharing
program
and
between
certain
city
departments.
If
it's
feasible,
if
it's
something
that
it
would
be
workable,
part
K
on
this
section-
and
this
is
probably
going
to
be
discussed
more
in
more
detail.
But
it
sets
a
number
of
city
vehicles
that
are
allowed
to
be
take
home
vehicles
for
city
employees
right
now.
M
We
have
something
weird
to
see
response
employees
that
have
taken
vehicles,
but
there's
thinking
that
the
number
of
take-home
vehicles
in
the
city
is
too
large
right
now
and
it's
a
waste
of
city
fuel.
So
this
is
something
that
may
or
may
not
be
in
here,
but
it's
it's
up
for
discussion
before
we
before
I
move
forward
with
this
further
another
section
in
here-
and
this
is
this-
is
right
after
that
it
talks
about
requiring
the
solid
waste
collector.
So
this
would
be
Athens
hockey
and
the
recycling
center
to
establish
their
own
green
fleets
plan.
M
M
That's
more
of
a
wish
list,
but
something
that
would
be
good
to
see.
The
last
section
is
how
to
monitor
our
progress,
and
this
would
create
a
great
piece
of
comity
in
the
city
that
would
meet
maybe
once
a
year
a
couple
weeks
apart,
meet
a
couple
of
times,
basically
once
a
year
to
look
at
the
city's
green
fleets
plan.
M
This
is
something
that
I
envision
being
brought
forward
by
the
safety
service
director
in
the
mayor's
office
and
basically
to
address
the
city
departments
that
have
a
number
of
vehicles
and
how
we
can
work
in
those
with
those
different
departments
to
achieve
the
goals
outlined
here.
It
calls
for
that
to
be
composed
of
a
member
of
the
police
department,
the
streets,
department,
water
and
sewer.
A
council
member
is
a
non-voting.
M
D
M
That
idea
here
is
that
so
we
don't
struggle
through
what
we
did
this
year
with
some
of
the
vehicles.
This
would
have
a
plan
in
place
already,
so
we
get
a
request
for
procurement
for
vehicle.
We
say:
alright.
That
department
has
a
great
fleets
plan
they're,
making
progress.
We
don't
need
to
argue
back
and
forth
about
specifics.
They
have
something
in
place,
and
so
it's
ambition
they
would.
They
would
get
the
vehicles
that
they
were
requesting,
and
this.
E
E
M
M
J
Q
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
put
into
this
and
the
attention
and
just
thoughtfulness
of
this
process
I
think
that
something
like
this
is
gonna.
Allow
there
to
be
more
coherent-
and
you
know
just
a
clear
path
to
making
progress
on
this
issue.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
done.
I
had
a
couple
questions
in
the
apart
section
at
Thunder
green
fleet's
policy
just
around
the
10%
I
want
us
to
be
cautious
that
these
numbers
aren't
arbitrary.
Q
I'd
want
us
to
look
at
what
are
the
number
of
vehicles
and
their
uses
because,
clearly
you
know
the
police
department,
the
fire
department,
specialty
trucks
that
this
treatment
has
have
really
specific
purposes,
and
we
can't
just
have
an
arbitrary
iam
goal
there.
We
have
to
look
at
the
needs
of
the
different
departments
in.
M
I
said,
the
first
goal
of
five
percent
by
2010
has
already
been
achieved
just
this
year.
It's
we're
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
so
five
more
five
additional
percent
would
be
relatively
one
of
our
vehicles.
Maybe
seven
vehicles
total
six
or
seven,
but
I
can
get
more
concrete
information
on
the
numbers
there
and
and
again
these
are
goals
right.
Q
Q
Q
B
M
Related
to
that
I
mean
I
was
looking
to
give
a
lot
of
discretion
to
the
department,
heads
and
and
the
employees
themselves.
In
terms
of
then,
making
the
call
we
I
don't
know
when
a
police
vehicles
needs
to
be
on
for
emergency
response
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
right
for
us
to
to
make
that
judgment
call,
but
it
it's
something
that
I
or
what
they're
possibly
having
a
couple
more
details
me
sure.
P
H
Just
wanted
to
mention
or
ask
a
question
about
the
the
idling
I
have
never
owned
a
diesel
vehicle,
but
I
was
under
the
impression
that
in
really
cold
weather,
it's
not
a
good
idea
to
turn
them
off.
If
you
want
to
use
them
more
that
day
that
they
just
don't
start
very
well
in
cold
weather,
so
that
was
one
thing
I
was
just
wondering
about.
Is
that
true?
It.
B
D
M
C
Just
in
general,
some
time
ago,
when
we
were
discussing
purchasing,
some
of
you
know,
hybrid
vehicles
for
different
departments,
I
expressed
my
concern
that
we
needed
exactly
this
policy
for
the
green
fleets,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
putting
this
proposal
together
and
I.
Just
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
as
you've
already
alluded.
Some
of
the
definitions
and
some
of
the
exact
amounts
need
to
be
worked
out
with
lots
more
discussion.
But
here
we
have
the
blueprint
or
something
that
I
think
is
is
necessary.
M
And
before
I
go,
do
you
call
it?
One
of
the
biggest
questions
that
I
have
is
is
whether
or
not
this
should
be
brought
forward
as
an
ordinance
or
resolution?
Of
course,
an
ordinance
would
mean
it's
law,
and
it
has
to
follow
to
the
letter.
Basically
resolution
would
give
a
lot
more
flexibility
to
that,
and
that's
something
that's
up
for
discussion,
but
also
for
people
just
to
be
thinking
about
and
free
to
give
your
feedback.
P
Thank
you
one
of
my
statements
because,
in
essence,
council
would
be
establishing
policy
in
the
ordinance
being
the
law
that
we'd
have
to
do.
I
share
your
frustration
on
the
anti-idling,
what
I'm
being
told
as
I
go
to
these
water
breaks
or
sewer
breaks,
and
there
are
strict
safety
measures
in
terms
of
the
lighting
that
has
to
occur,
and
if
they
shut
the
vehicles
off,
then
the
lights
will
keep
running
but
they'll
run
down
the
battery.
P
So
we
need
to
look
into
that
a
little
more
carefully
in
terms
of
I
understand
what
they're
saying,
but
do
we
need
to
buy
better
batteries?
I
mean
what
do
we
need
to
do
so
that
the
lights
and
safety
measures
are
in
place
for
protection,
but
we're
not
also
running
gasoline
fuel
fired
vehicles
at
the
same
time,
allowing
the
requested
additional
information
for
me
that
I
have
not
provided
so
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
and
I
haven't
seen
your
latest
draft
either
I
didn't
have
a
K.
C
L
One
of
the
I
think
the
what
she
was
called
from:
Columbus
environmental
steward
from
Columbus
I
think
her
I
think
that
was
a
title.
She
I
had
a
conversation
where,
when
she
was
down
lecturing
the
Sierra
Club
I
think
last
two
months
ago,
three
months
ago
she
actually
had
mostly
fleet
drivers
in
the
City
of
Columbus
go
through
and
anti-idling
training.
L
It
might
behoove
us
to
find
out
what
that
is
and
what
it
takes
to
actually
to
put
something
in
it
and
again,
I
have
watched
the
trick.
That's
quite
a
bit
of
light,
show
going
on
with
these
trucks
to
maintain
especially
at
night.
So
it
is
a
safety
issue
should
have
those
run
and
I
can
see
why
they
would
run
those
just
to
keep
them
nice
and
bright.
But
again,
maybe
there's
a
policy
that
could
be
put
placed
with
that
in
terms
of
with
training,
in
other
words,
every
15
minutes.
L
M
R
R
A
vehicle
use
policy
which
expresses
the
guidelines
of
how
a
vehicle
is
operated.
Who
is
allowed
to
operate
the
vehicle
when
you're
allowed
to
operate
the
vehicle
and
include
these
other
points
as
well?
I
think
it's
real
important
couple
of
things
that
I've
noticed-
and
this
happened
last
and
within
the
last
three
months
on
authorized
use
of
a
public
vehicle
for
personal.
R
She
said
Commerce
at
least
that's
what
I
saw
I
also
observe
city
vehicles.
Traveling
exception
speeds
through
the
neighborhood
that
costs
money,
it
cost
gas
money
I'm
talking
about
in
posted
speed
limits
as
well,
both
on
the
east
and
west
side,
hyper
acceleration
for
no
good
reason,
and
these
are
just
little
things
that
add
up
over
the
long
term.
R
M
E
Thank
you
I.
Also,
besides,
applauding
your
efforts
as
well
wanted
to
acknowledge,
along
with
Andy
stones,
efforts
to
cut
the
fleet,
I
spoke
literally
with
Richie
Campitelli,
director
of
Arts
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
his
efforts
to
cut
some
of
their
fleet
size
I
know
that
they
limited
one
vehicle
and
they're
looking
at
cutting
this
and
vehicle
that
they
they
have
access
to
so
I
think
again,
these
are
efforts
that
department
heads
they're
being
mindful
of
and
are
working
on
so.
M
M
When
we
eliminate
a
vehicle,
we're
not
paying
insurance
on
that
either
anymore,
so
it
really
the
cost
savings
can
never
nothing
else.
Okay
I
would
like
to
move
on
to
natural
gas
aggregation,
and
this
is
something
that
I
sort
of
mentioned
earlier
in
the
year
I've
been
looking
into
more
detail
recently.
M
What
it
is,
basically,
natural
gas
aggregation
in
the
state
of
Ohio
municipalities
are
allowed
to
form
a
purchasing
pool
for
their
residents.
Yes,
so
in
effect,
what
this
can
do
really
is
to
save
the
citizens
money
in
the
city
of
Athens.
We
would
probably,
if
we
formed
this
we'd,
probably
be
able
to
save
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
M
M
I've
talked
to
a
couple
different
companies.
One
of
them
is
represented
by
a
gentleman
and
listen
Nelsonville,
Fred
Holmes
he's
actually
known
city
council
there.
He
works
for
an
energy
company
that
and
his
job
is
to
implement
these
government
aggregation
programs
he's
going
to
come,
speak
to
Council
on
tentatively
set
for
December
8th.
If
we
have
a
committee
meeting
that
date
so
he'll
be
able
to
answer
questions
to
provide
more
details
on
what
this
would
entail.
I've
also
been
in
touch
with
the
Ohio
consumers
Council
and
have
an
education
outreach
specialist.
M
Someone
from
the
Ohio
consumers
Council
will
come
down
in
spring
before
the
election
to
hold
a
public
hearing
and
an
educational
session
to
help
educate
our
citizens
on
what
this
would
be.
The
process
of
the
aggregation
is
that
council
would
bring
forward
a
resolution
or
an
ordinance
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
of
the
May
primary
for
the
May
primary.
That
issue
would
allow
the
city
to
look
into
natural
gas
segregation
and
form
a
natural
gas
aggregation
program
on
the
city.
M
Would
then,
if
it
were
to
pass
negotiate
with
suppliers
to
get
the
best
rate
that
week
that
we
can
get?
And
after
that,
there's
there
a
couple
more
administrative
things
that
happen:
there's
there's
an
option
to
opt
out
of
the
city's
buying
pool.
If
you
want
to
stay
with
your
own
supplier,
or
if
you
don't
have
an
alternate
supplier,
can
I
stay
with
Columbia
Gas
as
your
gas
supplier.
M
This
is
really
doesn't
make
any
change
to
the
customer
in
terms
of
their
service.
In
terms
of
who
maintains
the
gas
lines,
only
gas
is
still
there
still
transfers
to
gas
and
sends
them
bills
the
way
that
they
do
right
now,
so
it
won't
be
any
any
any
effective
change
to
the
customer,
except
they'll
have
reduced
rates.
So
this
is
something
that
we'll
be
moving
forward
in
the
future.
Do.
Q
M
It's
it's
something
that
we
should
definitely
consider,
and
we
have
a
speaker
here
earlier
in
the
year
right
now.
The
rates
that
you
can
get
as
an
aggregation
are
higher
than
the
rates
for
for
electricity,
not
for
natural
gas.
This
isn't
the
case,
but
for
electricity,
if
you
form
an
aggregation,
the
rates
that
are
available
are
actually
higher
than
ATP's
current
rates.
Now
that
might
change
in
the
next
year
or
two
or
three
with
AP's
rates
of
looking
at
an
increase.
So
it's
definitely
something
for
us
to
keep
in
mind
stuff.
L
M
Okay,
so
moving
forward
with
this
by
bringing
in
hopefully
Fred
homes
to
have
further
discussion
on
this,
and
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
The
deadline
isn't
until
the
middle
of
February
really
actually
passed
the
resolution
to
get
this
on
the
ballot
so
and
with
that
I'm
finished.
Unless
anyone
has
miss
language.
B
City
council
do
have
a
forum
with
all
members
present
ordinance,
120
308,
an
ordinance
authorizing
design
engineering
of
the
carpenter
street
improvements;
project;
number
243,
ok,
ordinances
for
first
reading,
ordinance,
120
408,
an
ordinance
of
spending
at
the
city
code,
section
7.0,
5.03,
continuous
parking
in
the
same
location
during
the
period
from
November
2808
until
January,
1st,
o
9
and
declaring
an
emergency
member
nicely.
Mr.
E
D
F
B
B
M
F
B
Further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
all
right
opposed
ordinance.
One
24:08
has
been
adopted:
ordinance,
120,
508,
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
enter
into
an
LPA
federal
project
agreement
with
the
state
of
Ohio
through
the
director
of
transportation,
for
rehabilitation
of
state
routes,
33
and
50
within
the
city
of
Athens,
and
declaring
an
emergency
again
member
nicely.
Mr.
F
President,
this
piece
of
legislation
this
ordinance
will
allow
gives
permission
for
the
Ohio
Department
of
Transportation
to
make
improvements
to
the
bypass
that
is
within
the
city
limits,
and
those
improvements
will
take
place
during
the
spring
and
summer
of
2009.
Just
a
little
bit
of
background
information.
The
city
as
I
understand,
has
responsibility
for
minor
repairs
on
this
on
these
streets.
But
then
the
state
has
the
responsibility
for
the
major
repairs.
F
I
further
understand
from
information
given
provided
by
Street
director
Andy
stone
that
there
there
will
be
restrictions
on
the
roads
during
the
spring
and
summer,
but
there
will
not
be
he's
made
sure
that
there
won't
be
any
closures
on
certain
dates.
So
what
he's
protected
is
is
that
the
closures
will
not
occur
on
move-in
and
move-out
day.
Very.
O
F
F
F
E
C
B
C
C
This
ordinance
deals
with
transferring
some
funds
that
were
inadvertently
misappropriated
due
to
mixed
up
in
the
income
tax
appropriation
and
so
from
the
general
fund.
We're
going
to
move
approximately
twelve
thousand
dollars
to
the
street
fund,
five
to
the
community
center
fund,
four
thousand
to
community
centers
debt
fund
and
twenty
thousand
to
the
capital
improvements
fund
from
Street
rehabilitation
fund.
We're
gonna
be
moving.
Sixty
seven
thousand,
almost
sixty
eight
thousand
dollars
for
the
capital
improvements
fund
and
from
the
parking
garage
fund
where
some
pre
payments
on
on
utility
bills
were
restored.
C
B
Further
discussion
on
ordinance,
126
Dale
thought
it
was
pretty
good.
There
did.
You
say
all
those
in
favor
of
adoption
of
the
ordinance
I
opposed.
The
ordinance
has
been
adopted,
Gordon
in
2020
708,
an
ordinance
amending
ordinance,
Oh,
Oh,
508,
authorizing
engineering
and
construction
of
the
Granville
Mary
drainage
and
street
improvements,
project
number
231
and
declaring
an
emergency
again.
Member
sands
and.
C
C
Visit
the
service,
Safety
Director
and
the
mayor
discussed
the
work
that
is
ongoing
in
this
project
to
to
upgrade
the
granville
Mary's
Street,
which
is
a
as
somebody
mentioned,
an
older
Street
in
the
in
town
and
some
some
discrepancies
have
been
discovered
as
the
pavement
was
removed
and
these
need
to
be
dealt
with.
So
this
ordinance
127
only
would
appropriate
the
money
to
allow
that
to
happen
in
during
this
construction
season,
where
there
discussion.