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A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
Athens
City
Council,
it's
Monday
night
May,
8th,
7
p.m.
and
council
is
having
a
series
of
committee
meetings
tonight.
The
committee
of
the
whole
then
followed
by
four
other
committees
and
will
be
we
do
have
a
slight
modification.
We
have
one
additional
item
under
committee
of
the
whole,
but
our
first
presentation
will
be
about
the
no
peck
gas,
aggregation
and
I
believe
we
have
Eddie
Smith
here,
who
is
a
director
of
our
so
Peck
our
southern
own,
southeastern
Ohio
energy
consortium,
so
Thank
You
Eddie
for
coming
tonight.
B
Yeah
Thank
You
president
nicely
happy
to
be
here.
My
name
is
Eddie
Smith
I
serve
as
the
executive
director
of
so
Peck
and
I
think
I'm
supposed
to
say
it.
We
could
go
to
the
presentation
there.
We
are
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
really
brief
tonight,
but
I
want
to
just
provide
some
of
the
necessary
facts
that
I
think
should
be
considered
with
the
so
Peck
notepad
gas
aggregation
program.
B
I'm
going
to
do
this
really
brief,
am
going
to
touch
five
points,
I'm
going
to
look
at
historic,
SCO
pricing,
natural
gas
consumption
data,
specifics
on
the
partnership
with
no
Peck
the
next
day,
our
green
air
program
and
the
next
steps.
Rapid
City
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
this
in
five
minutes,
so
this
chart
just
shows
the
historic
SCO
pricing
and
the
Columbia
Gas
Territory
in
Ohio.
B
This
is
the
price
that
a
consumer
would
pay
for
a
CCF
of
natural
gas
if
they
were
not
participating
in
aggregation,
and
you
can
see
that
if
you
go
back
about
three
years
ago
in
January
2014,
it
was
close
to
70
cents
per
CCF.
If
we
come
now
to
the
present,
it's
closer
to
50
cents
per
CCF
or
$5
per
Mcf
on
average,
this
price
has
been
declining
at
about
two
cents
or
two
one
hundredths
of
a
penny
per
CCF
every
month
for
the
past
three
years.
B
So
it
is
trending
downward
here,
CCF,
that's
100
cubic
feet,
so
picture
a
cubic
foot
of
gas.
A
hundred
of
those
is
50
cents
or
a
thousand
of
those
as
$5,
so
that
price
per
100
cubic
feet
has
been
declining
at
about
two
one
hundredths
of
a
cent
every
month
for
the
past
three
years,
so
the
market
is
trending
downward.
B
B
At
first
was
there
was
lower
demand
because
weather
was
a
little
bit
warmer
and
then
also
because
demand
was
lower,
the
price
fell
and
so
9%
of
the
reduced
expenditure
came
from
the
reduced
demand
than
30%
came
from
the
reduced
price,
so
I
just
want
to
throw
those
out
because
they'll
be
handing
in
a
moment.
We
look
at
the
green
arrow
program,
but
I
think
it's
helpful
to
have
a
perspective
on
what
we're
spending
right.
Now.
B
Natural
gas,
so
this
partnership
we're
describing
with
nope
if
you're
not
aware
no
Peck
has
represents
500,000
electric
utility
accounts
in
Northeast
Ohio.
They
represent
300,000
natural
gas
accounts
in
Northeast
Ohio.
They
are
by
far
the
absolute
largest
governmental
aggregation
program
in
the
entire
country,
and
that
gives
them
a
lot
of
influence
at
the
state
level.
When
I'm
talking
about
energy
utility
policy
and
dealing
with
aap
doing
with
first
energy
deal
with
big
companies,
so
Peck
has
a
seat
at
the
table
at
know.
B
Peck,
so
Peck
is
a
member
of
the
notepad
Council
of
Governments,
and
if
we
move
forward
with
natural
gas,
aggregation,
Athens
city
actually
gets
a
really
democratic
voice
and
no
Peck
athens
city
joins
one
of
the
15
members
of
the
board
of
directors
of
know.
Peck
again
know,
Peck
represents
200
communities,
but
Athens
city
gets
a
direct
seat
on
the
board
of
directors
of
know,
Peck
and
I
think
that's
really
helpful,
for
you
know
being
able
to
advocate
for
Athens
and
for
southeast
Ohio
with
the
state
legislature.
B
The
next
Eric
green
era
program
was
launched
when
I
spoke
with
the
director
of
know,
Peck
and
with
some
folks
from
NextEra
I.
We
were
really
interested
in
trying
to
find
any
type
of
biogas
and
have
a
renewable
natural
gas
that's
being
produced
and
put
into
a
pipeline
somewhere
that
could
be
being
consumed
by
Athens
city
residents.
They
looked
over
the
entire
country,
there's
nowhere
that
they
could
identify
where
biogas
and
type
of
renewable
gas
source
is
being
commodified
for
aggregation.
B
However,
they
did
come
up
with
the
green
arrow
program
and
the
green
arrow
program
offers
competitive,
SCO
pricings,
while
also
directing
20%
of
the
total
revenues
that
go
to
NextEra
towards
renewable
generation
projects,
new
projects
that
are
utility-scale
renewable
generation.
That
means
about
10
million
dollars
a
year
of
no
Peck.
Expenses
are
being
directed
towards
the
construction
of
renewables,
and
that
would
be
about
$700,000
for
Athens
city
again
going
back
to
what
we
know
about
what
Athens
city
tends
to
consume
for
natural
gas.
B
So
next
steps
are
to
authorize
so
peg
to
act
as
an
agent
on
behalf
of
the
city.
Again,
Athens
city
is
already
a
member
of
the
so
Peck
Council
of
Governments.
We
represent
the
city's
interests
with
electric
utility
services
for
residences
and
small
businesses.
If
that
is
passed,
the
next
step
after
that
would
be
to
hold
two
public
hearings
to
review
an
OPEC
plan
of
governance
and
operations
for
their
natural
gas
program
and
finally,
to
approve
the
no
Peck
plan
of
governance
and
operations.
So
that's
all
I
have
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
Thanks
our
president,
Isaac
I
had
a
question
that
I
didn't
ask
last
time
when
Chuck
Piper
was
here,
and
that
is
in
regards
to
the
NextEra
program,
I'm
a
little
puzzled
as
to
why
we
would
be
putting
20%
of
our
proceeds
into
a
program.
That's
benefiting
a
nationwide
program,
rather
than
focusing
it
on
something
local,
like
the
the
solar
program.
C
B
I'm,
never
going
to
argue
that
we
should
direct
dollars
away
from
our
region
for
the
construction
of
renewables.
There
is
not
a
mechanism
that
exists
right
now
to
direct
those
dollars
towards
regional,
renewable
development
through
a
gas
aggregation
program,
Athens
city
again
by
serving
on
the
board
of
directors.
No
Peck
has
a
voice
at
the
table
and
can
advocate
that
some
of
these
projects
be
in
southeast
Ohio,
but
there
is
nothing
in
the
charter
of
that
trust
fund
that
would
allow
that
would
specify
these
dollars
have
to
be
spent
in
the
area.
B
D
B
Gas
markets
are
volatile,
you
know
we
could
lock
in
at
a
competitive
price
and
the
market
could
shift
and
it's
challenging
to
forecast.
What's
going
to
happen,
and
you
know
some
of
these
energy
markets
know.
Peck
has
a
history
of
only
doing
90-day
contracts
to
avoid
any
sort
of
long-term
exposure
to
something
like
that.
E
B
Yeah,
if
the
utilities
were
successful,
a
reregulate
in
Ohio's
retail,
electric
market
or
gas
market,
it
would
mean
really
bad
news
for
consumers
aggregation
saved.
Just
on
the
residential
electric
side.
Aggregation
has
saved
about
fifteen
billion
dollars
for
consumers
over
the
last
five
years,
so
that's
fifteen
billion
dollars
that
got
to
be
spent
on
mortgages
and
all
sorts
of
other
good
things
instead
of
being
spent
on
utility
bills.
E
B
It
that
you
expand
upon
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
everyone's
familiar
with
the
recent
ap
rate
case
the
fixed
variable
rate
case,
but
it
would
raise
the
flat
portion
of
everyone's
bill
by
about
120
percent
above
where
it's
at
right
now
and
yeah.
That
was
being
pushed
for
pretty
hard
by
by
not
just
ap
but
other
utilities.
Also,
and
so
Peck
was
there
in
the
PUCO
hearings.
B
We
testified
against
that
and
when
I
was
there
testifying
against
that
I
had
the
authority
to
say
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
14,000,
electric
utility
accounts
in
southeast
Ohio
right
now.
This
would
be
terrible
news
for
them,
and
so
this
would,
you
know,
give
us
even
more
influence,
even
more
legitimacy
at
the
state
level
to
say
you
know
we're
also
speaking
on
several
thousand
natural
gas
accounts.
So
right
now
we
don't
speak
on
behalf
of
natural
gas
and
I
think
we
could
and
should
be
so
yeah,
that's
one
other
thing
I
would
add
to
it.
B
A
Presentation
again,
okay,
so
as
I
understand
and
I
think
that
a
law
director
has
looked
at
this,
that
there
would
be
two
ordinances
that
are
separate
with
two
public
hearings
in
between
that.
So
the
first
ordinance
authorizes
so
Peck
to
act
as
the
agent
and
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
this
is
the
order
of
the
sequence
in
which
it
needs
to
happen
that
that
ordinance
happens
first
authorizing.
Then
we
hold
the
public
hearings
and
then
we
adopt
the
no
Peck
plan
of
governance
and
operations.
Yes,.
B
The
I
just
spoke
with
our
attorney
the
other
day
on
this,
and
the
first
legislation
has
to
be
passed
as
legislation
authorizing
so
Peck
to
represent
the
city
with
the
no
Peck
gas
program.
Then,
after
that,
two
public
hearings
are
held,
they
can
both
be
the
same
day.
We
did
this
for
Somerset
in
the
fall.
We
had
one
at
9:00
a.m.
and
one
after
5:00
p.m.
A
Those
public
hearings,
as
you
say,
so
that
people
could
learn
more
about
it,
respond
to
it
see
if
they
avoid
any
concerns
they
might
have
and
what
is
and
is
it
then
ohio,
revised
code
that
requires
this?
Yes,
okay,
because
I
see
in
the
plan
of
governance
that
says
the
Ohio
law,
so
is
that
that
49,
the
2001
law
I,
don't.
A
A
G
On
that,
if
I
may
is
to
bring
in
at
least
to
bring
the
first
ordinance
through
bring
it
up
on
Monday
night
and
start
the
process,
but
has
typically
happened
with
council
meetings-
is
that
we
will.
We
can
have
the
public
hearings
just
before
council
meets
start
the
minutes,
if
the
clock
or
anyone
who
wants
to
comment
again,
but
there
what
is
available
for
the
public
for
the
hearing
is
again
the
no
panic
plan
of
governments
and
operations
that
anyone
can
look
through.
G
We
can
also
put
that
how
it
out
there
on
the
city's
website,
where
someone
could
could
prove
through
it
on
that
as
well.
It's
lengthy,
but
that
not
constituting
the
public
hearing
public
hearing
again
have
two
consecutive
council
meetings.
It
could
be
before
the
first
reading
and
the
second
it
could
be
second
and
before
the
third
read
I.
A
A
B
A
So
it's
all
the
same
topic,
but
it's
kind
of
a
different
if
the
public
hearings
are
actually
to
look
at
the
plan
of
governance
and
the
first
one
is
to
authorize.
So
it's
almost
like
our
grant
process
where
we
we,
the
city,
authorizes
this
or
the
council,
authorizes
a
city
to
apply
for
a
grant
and
then
we
might
so
we're
offering
in
this
sense.
I
I
H
A
G
B
I
just
wanted
to
say,
there's
really
no
pressing
urgency
on
this
I.
You
know
wanted
to
be
transparent,
that
consumptions
extraordinarily
low
in
the
summer
on
like
electric
markets,
so
you
know
the
value
of
taking
our
time.
You
know,
there's
no,
there's
no
need
to
rush
on
this,
so
you
can
see
there
nothing
being
used.
Okay,.
A
B
A
E
Face
I
will
be
placing
before
Council
on
Monday
a
resolution
worded
to
rob
portman
outlying
our
concerns
about
the
Trump
care
plan
that
passed
the
house.
So
people
have
interesting
statistics.
They
can
shoot
them
to
me.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
E
J
You
so
much
so
we'll
just
go
ahead
and
jump
right
in
my
intent
tonight
is
to
give
you
an
overview
of
our
impacts
in
last
year
in
2016
and
tie
that
to
what
our
current
goals
are
for
this
year
and
looking
into
the
future.
J
So,
as
you
know,
our
mission
continues
to
be
to
protect
the
right
of
everyone
in
southeast
Ohio
to
have
access
to
fresh,
healthy,
local
food
abiding
by
our
values
of
community
and
culture,
justice,
education
and
empowerment
and
boy
howdy
collaboration,
as
we
really
need
a
lot
of
folks
to
help
make
all
of
these
programs
have
the
impact
that
they
do
in
our
community.
So
I'll
begin
by
just
touching
on
our
community
gardens
program.
J
We
still
continue
to
manage
five
community
gardens
across
Athens
County
to
avoid
share
in
the
city
of
Athens
on
the
east
side
and
Southside.
They
have
shown
great
interest
and
participation.
Both
the
east
side
and
south
side
gardens
are
always
our
first
to
fill
up
in
each
spring
and
at
the
east
south
side
and
Nelsonville
Gardens
we've
allocated
sections
to
grow
food
with
teams
of
volunteers
which
are
called
donation
station
garden
plot.
J
So
we're
growing
additional
food
for
our
donation
station
program,
which
has
been
harvested
and
distributed
out
to
area
food,
pantries
and
agencies
through
that
program,
and
last
year
we
saw
an
additional
five
hundred
and
sixty
five
pounds
of
food
grown
from
those
sites
with
our
garden
and
culinary
workshop
series,
I'd
have
to
say
not
too
much
has
changed
here,
we're
continuing
to
do
a
series
every
year,
usually
between
25
and
40
workshops.
One
thing
that
was
distinct
about
2016
that
we
plan
on
continuing
is
more
partnerships
with
local
farms
and
food
producers.
J
J
So
you'll
probably
hear
promotions
this
year
about
our
harvest
hotline
program,
which
we've
had
what
we're
trying
to
get
more
farmers
engaged
in,
giving
us
a
call
and
they
have
excess
produce
in
their
fields
that
we
can
harvest
with
our
volunteers
as
well
as
getting
individual
signed
up
to
grow
a
row
to
take
a
pledge
to
grow
additional
food
in
their
gardens.
They
get
a
few
little
perks
for
doing
that
and
then
that
also
gets
distributed
through
the
program.
J
Another
aside
is
that
you
may
have
heard
me
talk
about
donation,
station
development
and
other
communities.
That's
been
something
that
I've
been
working
on,
basically
replicating
this
program
for
other
communities
to
own,
and
just
this
past
Saturday
at
the
Chillicothe
farmers
market,
the
Ross
County
donation
station
was
started.
So
it's
been
a
long
haul,
but
we're
very
excited
and
that's
a
really
wonderful
partnership
with
several
organizations,
including
integrated
services
and
operation.
Hope
alongside
the
donation
station,
is,
of
course,
the
discovery
kitchen
where
we're
going
to
pantries
and
agencies.
J
Helping
coach
people
on
how
to
use
seasonal
ingredients,
as
well
as
addressing
their
health
needs
through
the
food
that
they're
eating,
and
we
continue
to
have
an
extremely
strong
and
very
beneficial
partnership
with
the
Athens
County
Public
Library
System,
who
also
host
these
discovery.
Kitchen
tasting
events
in
all
the
library
branches
twice
a
year.
So
that's
really
helped
us
connect
with
the
general
public.
Much
better
and
helping
more
people
know
what
to
do
with
local
food.
J
Holosuite
Alliance,
is
our
fledgling
seed
company
or
seed
enterprise
based
on
13
years
of
work
with
our
regional
Seed
Savers
across
Athens
County
in
our
neighboring
counties.
We're
really
really
thrilled
to
be
I
feel
like
really
getting
our
feet
underneath
us.
With
this
program.
We
are
partnering
with
local
Seed,
Savers
contracting
with
them,
as
growers
purchasing
their
locally
saved,
open,
pollinated,
plant
variety
seeds
and
then
retailing
them
through
area
businesses
in
Athens
County,
as
well
as
in
Fairfield,
County
and
Lancaster.
J
Our
seed
implants,
dark
giveaways
are
continuing
and
they
are
fun
and
exciting
events.
These
numbers
are
probably
very
similar
to
what
they
have
been.
It's
still
just
a
giant
semi-truck
of
seed
potatoes
we
distribute,
but
one
thing
of
interest
with
this
is
that
we're
distributing
across
the
river
into
West
Virginia
now
due
to
partnerships
with
a
foundation
that
we
receive,
some
funding
for
called,
grow
Appalachia
and
we've
definitely
had
a
lot
of
fun
again
partnering
with
the
Athens
County
Public
Library's,
but
also
the
Athens
OSU
Extension
Master
Gardeners
program.
J
That
is
on
site
for
a
lot
of
those
seed
giveaways
to
help
answer
any
questions
that
people
may
have
about
their
gardens.
The
yeah
kids,
the
youth
entrepreneurs
at
Hope
believe
you're
all
familiar
with
that
program
as
a
summer
job
program
for
disadvantaged
youth.
One
thing
that's
been
unique
last
year
that
we
plan
on
continuing
is
to
develop
more
professional
field
trips
for
them
so
that
they
understand
not
just
their
own
production
garden
and
their
own
value-added
product
process
and
vending
at
the
farmers
market.
J
But
what's
going
on
behind
the
scenes
at
other
farms
and
food
production
companies
locally
so
this
past
year
we
visited
the
Chester
a
produce
auction
with
them,
VES
Berry,
Farms
integration,
acres
and
Snowville
Creamery,
and
we
do
plan
on
continuing
that
trend.
The
kids
get
a
lot
out
of
it
and
we're
hoping
that
that
will
eventually
lead
to
potential
internships
for
them
in
the
future
and
just
better
integrate
the
disadvantaged
youth
in
our
community
into
the
local
food
system.
J
Now
these
next
few
slides
are
in
something
that
you
may
not
have
heard
me
talk
about
before,
because
it's
a
new
project
and
something
that
I'm
very
excited
to
share
called
southeast
Ohio
food
link.
About
two
years
ago,
at
an
unrelated
conference,
I
met
some
individuals
that
work
at
West
Virginia
University
in
the
food
justice
lab,
which
is
part
of
their
Geography
Department.
J
It's
going
to
be
essentially
in
one
website
where,
if
I'm
an
individual
looking
for
food
assistance,
I
can
go
and
find
specific
details
on
resources
that
can
help
me.
If
I'm
a
practitioner,
writing
a
grant.
I
have
a
one-stop
shop
for
all
of
the
data
that
I'm
going
to
need,
as
well
as
once
this
project
is
live,
which
it
were
slated
to
do
were
split
plated
for
it
to
go,
live
in
December
of
this
year.
J
We
will
then
host
workshops
in
each
of
the
ten
counties
with
all
of
the
stakeholder
representatives
in
those
communities
across
the
board,
not
just
food
pantry
coordinators,
but
anyone
who's
interested
in
attending
to
teach
them
how
to
read
and
understand
the
map,
because
it
does
have
so
many
multiple
layers
and
then
develop
lists
of.
What's
missing
from
that,
because
a
lot
of
this
resource,
a
lot
of
this
research
will
be
kind
of
hand,
picking
and
a
lot
of
phone
calling.
J
So
we
may
miss
a
few
things,
but
then
we'll
be
able
to
in
each
County
develop
County
plans
for
food
access
so
that
the
individuals
that
are
serving
those
community,
the
people
that
are
impacted
with
them
will
have
a
voice
in
how
to
make
a
difference
to
address
these
issues.
So
we're
very
excited
about
this,
because
this
is
an
example
of
the
West
Virginia's
information,
as
well
as
the
list
of
data
sets
that
are
going
to
go
into
it.
J
So
I'll
keep
you
all
abreast
of
this
as
it
moves
forward,
but
I'm
very
excited
that
we
will
be
fully
funded
to
do
this
thanks
to
a
partnership
with
multiple
foundations
and
we'll
also
because
of
this
be
hiring
a
full
time,
Community
Engagement
Manager
that
will
oversee
this
program,
as
well
as
other
community
engagement
activities
within
our
organization.
This
is
the
first
time
we've
had
an
increase
in
paid
staff
in
in
a
while.
J
So
we've
been,
you
know,
really
focusing
on
building
our
capacity,
improving
our
programs
and
trying
to
develop
smarter
ways
of
managing
our
growth,
as
the
needs
of
our
community
are
continuing.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
these
slides
but
I'm
just
putting
this
up
there
to
demonstrate
that
we
have
so
many
funders
coming
together
to
support
this
work
of
regional
foundations
and
family
foundations,
and
our
board
has
our
Board
of
Directors
has
been
really
integral
in
building
our
financial
support,
as
well
as
organizational
health
due
to
our
strategic
plan
implementation.
J
These
are
our
business
sponsors
from
this
past
year
and
we're
just
very
proud
of
all
of
them.
A
lot
of
local
businesses.
Stepping
up
to
be
a
part
of
our
mission
and
again
so
many
people
involved
over
340
volunteers,
as
well
as
our
volunteer
board
of
directors,
staff
and
many
many
interns
and
volunteers
from
Ohio,
University
and
Haken
college.
J
E
That's
a
lot:
that's
cool
love,
the
knowledge
that
what
we
can
do
and
tell
our
story
about
what's
happening
in
Athens
and
the
surrounding
area,
especially
when
one
gets
tired
of
what's
going
on
outside
of
our
area.
That's
awesome,
so
I
was
going
to
ask
you
what
what
we
can
do
as
a
city
to
help
and
you're
going
forward
the
information
to
City
Council
and
about
the
request.
Do
we
remember
what
it
was
last
year.
G
H
I
J
Have
sought
it's
been
a
couple
years
since
I've
reached
them
reach
out
to
them,
and
krish
meal
has
been
as
a
county
commissioner
has
been
very
integral,
especially
in
the
development
of
the
Chillicothe.
Excuse
me,
the
Ross
County
donation
station,
helping
us
part
helping
our
organization
partner
with
integrated
services.
He
has
been
great
in
helping
connect
our
organization
more
widely.
I
E
H
E
D
You
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
think
your
organization
is
willing
to
find
him
as
somebody
who
used
to
have
a
garden
down
there.
I
do
appreciate
it.
I
do
have
two
questions
for
for
you,
though,
I'm
I'm
very
impressed
by
what
you've
done
recently
in
the
expansion
that
you're
doing
oh
I
was
wondering
about
shifting.
So
is
there
any
effort
being
made
to
deal
with
a
food
that
is
basically
dumped
the
food
that
it's
expired
so
that
certain
foods
can
be
recovered
and
used?
D
I
know
on
the
internet,
I
see
that
quite
often,
and
then
the
second
question
I
I
had
would
deal
with.
It
seems
like
Kroger's,
and
some
of
the
bigger
companies
are
doing
this
kind
of
process.
Now
you
can
order
online
or
order
food,
then
they'll
bring
it
to
your
door.
I
just
wondered
for
the
less
fortunate
our
communities,
who
may
not
have
the
transportation
available
outside
of
Athens.
Is
there
any
haven't
been
made
to
actually
bring
things
to
them
or
centralized
to
areas
where
people
could
pick
them
up
easy
right.
J
Those
are
both
really
excellent
questions,
so
two,
the
first
one
in
terms
of
expired
foods,
the
southeast
Ohio
Regional,
Food
Bank-
does
pick
up
from
as
far
as
I
know,
pretty
much
all
of
the
major
grocery
stores
in
the
ten
counties
that
they
serve,
or
at
least
they
coordinate
that
with
partner
food
pantries
that
are
in
their
system
and
they
can
pick
up
and
distribute
expired
food.
So
long
as
it's
within
a
certain
number
of
days.
As
you
may
know,
those
expiration
dates
aside
from
prescription
medication
and
baby
food
are
developed
by
the
companies.
J
That's
not
anything,
that's
regulated
whatsoever,
so
they
have
their
own
internal
policies,
I
believe
based
on
feeding
America
regulations
what
most
likely,
but
that
food
does
get
picked
up
and
used
in
the
food
pantry
systems.
In
terms
of
the
delivery
of
purchased
groceries
to
long-on
households.
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
there
are
food
boxes
that
are
delivered
by
certain
food
pantries
in
our
community,
particularly
the
one
through
the
Catholic
Diocese,
but
that's
the
only
one
that
I
know
of
that
takes
food
directly
to
people's
homes.
K
Thank
you
so,
going
back
to
this
funding
model,
it
is
it
possible
to
for
council
to
see
what
everybody
else
along
the
way
governmentally
is
chipping
in
to
the
program
you.
J
You
know
our
programs
do
primarily
serve
Athens
County,
but
it
is
you
know,
even
beyond
that
at
this
point,
with
the
donation
station
program
primarily
serving
these
other
counties.
With
the
structure
for
the
food
link
project,
we
are
hoping
that
that
will
not
only
open
doors
for
our
programs,
but
also
open
doors
for
better
local
governmental
involvement
in
these
issues,
regardless
of
whether
that
financially
is
our
organization
or
not,
but
I
do
think
that
we,
as
community
members,
have
a
responsibility
to
be
using
our
privileges,
in
this
case
money
to
be
strategically
addressing
these
issues.
J
K
E
C
G
E
H
J
A
L
You,
madam
president,
I,
have
four
items
under
the
committee.
First
item
is
the
Athens,
firefighters
and
lieutenants
contract
award
of
the
conciliator
I
want
to
talk
about
tonight
is
the
fact
that
we
acknowledge
the
receipt.
The
conciliators
document
I
think
everybody
has
a
copy
on
their
hard
drives
and
the
way
this
will
proceed
is
traditionally
council
approves
contracts
with
our
employees.
So
once
we
have
the
final
agreement
that
comes
forward
council
will
then
proceed
have
an
ordinance
of
approval.
I
am
the
reason.
J
L
L
H
L
L
K
Why
I
have
them
a
couple?
Are
peppy,
so
I
think
it's
important
for
the
public,
so
there's
been
some
type
of
negotiation
going
on
basically
since
November,
regarding
this
contract
back
and
forth
back
and
forth,
and
where
you
sent
out
a
26
page
document
that
talks
about
all
the
what's
currently
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
contract,
so
I.
H
K
H
L
A
bit
if
you
read
the
document
from
beginning
to
end,
it's
really
a
fascinating
summary
of
the
whole
negotiating
method
between
administration
and
the
Union
and
back
and
forth
give-and-take,
and
how
it
reached
the
need
for
a
conciliator
and
then
how
the
conciliator
then,
after
looking
at
both
sides,
made
the
decision.
That
explains
why
that
decision
has
been
made.
That
way.
I
think
that's
best,
I,
don't
know,
I
just
get
a
kick
out
a
sort
of
thing
well,.
C
K
That
that's
important,
some
people
would
argue
well.
Why
do
you
need
to
conceal
it
conciliator
or
somebody
like
that,
but
I
think
as
we
move
forward
and
those
of
us
who've
been
on
council
and
read
these
documents
now
for
a
few
years,
it's
not
a
bad
way
to
do
business
right
from
a
council
members
point
of
view
in
my
I
agree.
F
L
D
K
L
A
A
G
I
G
E
G
Asking
as
I
understand
that
there's
they're,
not
all
training,
has
rebates
that
come
in.
There
is
certain
types
of
continuing
professional
training
where
there
is
refunds
and
again
those
when
those
refunds
come
in,
then
you
can
use
those
for
only
for
continuing
professional
training,
and
so
the
training
that
has
been
identified
is
rather
unique.
It's.
G
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
conversation,
we
have
basically
a
kind
in
a
motion,
training
program
for
officers.
You
know
a
lot
of
times
we're
training
them.
You
know
with
a
lot
of
different
skill
sets.
Obviously,
but
this
there's
very
little,
they
get
a
psychological
standpoint
in
terms
of
emotion,
training
when
you're
in
various
situations.
You
know
how
do
you
keep
things
level
and
keep
yourself
in
check
nothing
on
our
police
officers?
Don't,
but
it's
a
it's
a
good.
You
know
training
skill,
that's
one
of
the
training
with.
H
G
I
That
the
auditor
sandwich
for
the
recent
be
WCVB.
It's
embodied
in
these
emails,
ninety
five
thousand
five
hundred
level
dollars
and
fifty
cents
in
a
recent
BWC
rebate
and
then
an
appropriation
to
pay
dennis
Wally
fees
for
a
short-term
loan
paperwork
of
six
hundred
and
eighty
one
dollars
and
sunsets
right.
I
So
she
is
deaf
at
essentially
asking
that
one
of
the
let
me
get
this
right,
one
of
the
part-time
Cemetery
maintenance,
who
also
sometimes
assist
with
our
landscaper,
that
his
job
duties
be
divided
points
to
five
0.75
and
there's
times
there
are
hours
under
Cemetery
I.
Guess
it's
kind
of
open
a
greater
discussion
among
stones
about
you
know.
Does
the
cemetery
HAP's
have
to
stand
alone?
It
can't
support
itself
on
a
Sloane,
yes
opposed
to
being
under
lands
and
buildings.
I
When
we
first
went
to
establish
the
cemetery
because
it
was
being
gifted
to
us
remember,
we
didn't
have
a
choice.
You
get.
The
cemetery
I
had
checked
in
with
Lancaster
their
sister
city
in
terms
of
statutory
when
having
their
street
department
oversees
all
learn
cemetery
activities,
but
they
also
have
a
levy.
We
don't
have
a
levy,
so
it
kind
of
we're
inquiring
as
to
how
restrictive
do
we
want
to
get
with
identifying
these
individuals
time.
Essentially,
you
know
in
the
summer
you're
mowing
and
the
late
fall
you're
leafing
or
you.
I
G
L
G
I
G
H
E
K
You
president
nicely
East,
State
Street
us
interchange,
project
number
288.
We
need
to
do
an
authorization,
appropriation,
construction
and
cee
funds,
authorization
to
advertise
and
accept
bids
and
sign
contracts.
We
do
have
a
pie
chart
for
folks
to
see
in
terms
of
how
we're
looking
at,
which
should
come
up
on
the
screen
folks,
any
minute
now
and
we
that
kind
of
breaks
down
where
all
the
dollars
are
coming
from,
because
this
is
a
bit
of
a
complicated
ordinance
in
terms
of
the
funding
stream
but
I
think
councilmembers.
Hopefully,
that
can
generate
some
questions.
I
I
M
I
K
G
K
K
K
And
so
you
know
where
it's
not
very
specific.
Is
that
the
tip
of
the
handlebar,
where
it
does
that
I
think
most
people
kind
of
think
that?
But
it
doesn't
say
that
specifically
enough
in
the
state
law.
So
you
know
with
the
bike
lanes
that
we
have
and
everything
will
that
continue
to
provide
safety
for
bikers
and
drivers
of
cars
and
that
how
are
the
bicycling.
G
Feet
of
space,
okay,
but
even
mind
in
the
gutter,
is
the
store
grain.
Those
aren't
friendly
with
bicycle
nobody
bus,
that's,
there's
a
six
Felicity's
dedicated
space
for
bicycles,
I,
would
contend
and
again
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
law.
I'm
familiar
with
the
essence
of
the
law,
the
three-foot
rule,
but
I
would
also
contend
that
that
or
question
whether
that
applies
to
a
dedicated
bike
lane
that's
right,
foot
in
nature,
right,
as
opposed
to
where
I
see
that
law.
You
know
again.
K
Someone
are
most
people,
I.
Think
if
you
look
at
both
sides
of
the
issue
would
say
with
a
dedicated
bike
lane,
it's
probably
safer
for
the
cyclist,
so
one
of
the
other
things
we
have
a
couple
pictures
that
can
be
brought
up
of
a
before
and
after
shot
of
a
city,
very
congested
city
street.
So
you
see
on
the
left
the
before
pretty
much
vehicles
are
wherever
they
want
to
be,
whether
it's
taxis
or
whatever,
and
then
the
after
shot
is
a
more
organized.
In
my
opinion,
control
of
transportation,
multimodal
pedestrian
everything
so.
L
K
You
know
there's
a
bus
lane
over
on
the
far
right.
Obviously
you
know
that
won't
be
the
case,
but
if
you
also
notice
I'm
guessing
that
those
lanes
on
the
right
side,
the
after
picture
look
a
little
narrower
than
the
ones
on
the
left,
I
could
be
wrong,
but
which
is
some
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
State
Street,
which
is
to
slow
traffic
as
well.
So
we've
really
been
trying
to
investigate
this.
Actually,
these
pictures
come
out
of
a
journal
for
American
Medical
Association.
D
G
Should
I
can,
as
I
understand
it,
the
money
is
being
generated
by
the
property
value
appreciation
that
has
occurred
within
the
tipped
area
and
the
tip
is
defined.
I
can't
I'll
tell
them
that
I
can't
get
it
the
actual
from
from
where
to
where,
but
it's
it's
a
State
Street,
and
it's
where
we've
seen
a
lot
of
development
take
place
already
with
with
Lowe's
and
with
Walmart
when
I
say
development.
You
know
we're
good
businesses
in
that
area
and
as
those
businesses
develop,
that
property
being
the
value,
goes
up.
G
A
So
there
have
been
other
years
previously
where
we
appropriated
some
of
those
tip
funds
back
to
improvements
that
we
have
made
on
East
State,
so
we're
continuing
up
in
a
sense
we're
practicing
again
what
we've
been
doing
in
the
past,
with
that
TIF
funding
help
provide
some
other
funds
for
this
project.
It.
G
Was
2002
so
2002
and
to
give
you
an
idea,
this
is
significant,
because
what
we've
been
doing
as
a
city
is
allowing
that
TIFF
fund
to
grow
and
grow
and
then
once
there's
enough
money
in
there
for
different
improvements,
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
use
that
and
again
it
has
to
be
used
in
the
tip
itself.
So
since
2002
through
2016,
the
cumulant
cumulative
amount
of
TIF
money
that's
come
in,
is
six
million
thirteen
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
four
dollars
and
fifty
cents.
G
So
it's
it's
a
significant
way
to
recapture
some
revenue
that
goes
back
into
continually
improving
that
area.
Again.
A
sidewalk
improvement
qualifies
a
lot
of
things,
but
it
has
to
be
again
within
the
TIF
defined
area
to
where
you
can
do
projects.
You
couldn't
take
that
TIF
money
and
say:
okay,
we're
gonna.
Let's
go
ahead
and
apply
this
to
Stimson
out.
New
roundabouts
can
do.
M
Yes,
if
we
could
go
back
to
that
that
we
had
from
New
York
City,
what
was
really
interesting
about
this
is
that
look
at
what
I
was
kind
of
interested
about
was
the
lane
reduction.
So,
basically,
my
guess
is
this.
The
street,
even
though
it
looks
like
has
gone
down
from
one
two,
three
four
five
six
lanes
down
to
is
that
just
too,
with
Parkins
three.
M
So
there's
been
instances
where
a
cyclist
has
been
hit
when
they've
been
riding
to
the
right
of
the
of
the
white
line,
because
they're
comfortable
riding
in
the
shoulder
but
they're
not
technically
on
the
road,
so
they
so
the
driver
can
strike
a
cyclist
and
they
don't
get
cited.
So
with
this
three
foot
law,
it's
pretty
obvious
that
you
violated
the
three
foot
law
if
there's
a
strike,
so
that
I
think
is
the
biggest
safety
feature
for
that.
What.
M
Yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
a
police
officer
is
going
to
be
able
to
determine
from
the
center
of
the
bike
out
of
the
handlebar,
whether
or
not
it's
three
foot
or
not.
But
if
you
have
an
unsafe
pass
that
looks
aggressive,
you
know
there
is.
There
is
some
enforcement
allowable
now
by
the
state,
while
in.
K
Another
in
discussing
this
with
a
lot
of
record
director,
every
form
of
transportation
is
allowed
on
our
roads.
So
again
this
is
I
would
say
the
three-foot
rule
is
a
safety
feature
added
or
a
bike
lane
as
a
safety
feature
added
for
a
segment
of
the
transportation
such
as
a
biker.
So
that's
that
and
then
one
additional
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
that
I
think
that
we've
been
confused
about
in
the
city
of
Athens.
K
There
is
only
one
place,
and
that
is
in
the
Uptown
business
district,
where
we
do
not
allow
bikes
on
sidewalks
bikes
on
sidewalks
are
allowed
on
East
8th
on
Morris
Avenue
on
other
places
in
this
town,
Union
Street,
it's
only
in
the
central
business
district
in
the
Uptown
area
that
we
do
not
because
of
the
amount
of
pedestrian
traffic,
obviously
that
we
do
not
allow
bikes.
So
if
you
feel
more
comfortable,
if
you
have
a
child
on
a
bike,
you
can
be
on
a
sidewalk.
K
K
M
Kostas,
yes,
and
now,
with
this
East
8th
Street
design,
that
sidewalk
will
have
a
six
foot
buffer
from
traffic
which
will
make
it
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
for
everybody
to
travel,
travel
on
that
and
another
another.
Well
I
I
saw
the
the
engineers
putting
the
the
speed
poses
down.
You
know
the
and
so
I
know
that
they've
already
measured
the
rate
of
traffic,
the
speed
of
traffic
right.
What
it
is
right
now,
I,
don't
know
and
I
haven't
gotten
I,
don't
know.
We
have
that.
M
B
M
C
You
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
it
would
be
helpful
for
citizens
to
have
a
schedule
of
what
they
can
expect
for
the
rest
of
the
summer
construction
wise
and
know
that
traffic
volumes
have
been
increasingly
heavy
on
State
Street
because
of
the
exit
closures
and
even
going
over
up
Madison
and
over
Terrace
to
Columbus
Road.
So
folks
need
to
be
reminded
to
observe
speed
limits
and
having
an
idea
of
what's
what's
coming.
Next
would
be
useful.
C
G
Receiving
the
same
concerns
and
we're
actually
starting
to
look
at
some
of
the
areas
that
you're
talking
about
in
particular,
where
Jones
would
and
then
joins
up
with
Terrace,
but
also
with
Columbia
and
looking
at
that
area
in
particular,
with
traffic
flow
through
there,
you
want
to
go
back
real,
quick
if
I
can
to
the
sidewalk.
You
know
remember,
papi
is
correct
and
that
the
majority
of
the
city
sidewalks
it
is
permissible
to
ride
bikes.
G
G
What's
going
on,
because
I
am
on
a
sidewalk,
and
so
my
only
word
of
caution
is
for
cyclists,
and
this
is
kids
to
grownups
that
you're
going
to
have
to
be
that
defensive
bicycle
rider,
because
it's
likely
that
someone
isn't
hearing
you,
even
with
the
allotted
which
I
learned,
that
it
has
to
have
a
bell
on
your
bicycle,
to
warn
people
that
you're.
You
know
that
that's
part
of
the
equipment
that
a
bicycle
needs
to
have,
but
again,
if
someone's
listening
to
to
music
or
carrying
on
a
conversation,
they're
likely
not
to
hear
that.
G
So
that's
just
my
my
word
of
caution
about
cycling
on
city,
sidewalks,
plus,
they're,
narrow,
I,
don't
know
the
exact
width
of
sidewalks
but
I.
Imagine
they're
4
foot
to
5
foot
in
some
cases
unless
you're
uptown
too
or
they're
11
feet.
But
anyway,
that's
perfect.
So
just
I
want
I
need
to
get
that
out
there
that
you
know,
if
there's
a
level
of
caution
to
be
even
be
had
on
on
sidewalks
any.
K
Other
council
members
on
this
8c
State
Street
topic
funding
clear
for
the
most
part.
I
guess
we'll
have
finer
numbers
next
week
when
we
actually
have
the
written
ordinance.
Yes
in
our
perfect
council,
we'll
have
it
all
put
together
for
us.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
topic
is
West
Union,
sidewalk
extension
we've
been
speaking
on
this
project
for
a
couple
years.
K
Now
we
it
was
identified
as
one
of
the
areas
that
needed
that
needed
to
be
expanded,
there's
never
been
a
sidewalk
there,
and
so
this
is
from
blick
Avenue
down
towards
where
the
bike
trail
crosses
Union
Street.
So
what
Cavan
ooh
is
sort
of,
if
you
can
think
of
this,
nearly
restock
house
so
from
there
down
to
where
the-
and
there
are
several
parking
lots
and
things
like
that
that
people
can
walk
through,
but
there
are
also
properties
where
there
is
absolutely
no
sidewalk
a.
K
Highland
hotel
there's
a
beaten-down
path
at
this
point,
but
they
need
a
sidewalk,
so
this
was
identified
as
a
Community
Development
Block
Grant
CDBG
project,
and
we
are
moving
forward
with
that
legislation.
K
H
I
D
I
F
I
know
that
public
works
for
Keystone
has
identified
this
a
number
of
years
ago
in
one
of
our
street
tours
as
a
wish
list
project
again,
I
think
really
valid
and
important
for
that
part
of
town
there's
number
of
businesses
over
there.
You
know
Veterans
Affairs,
new
housing,
housing,
the
Atkins
photographic
project,
all
walks
of
life
able-bodied
disability.
This
is
going
to
be
beneficial
for
my
community
on
that
side
of
town.
So
I
support
this
Thank
You
Man.
K
F
G
To
echo
what
what
remember
Butler
said
and
to
add
that
the
film
was
identified
by
the
Commission
on
disabilities
several
years
ago,
as
being
you
know,
a
must-do
project
just
for
accessibility
alone,
because
it
stands
right
now
there
are
some
sidewalks,
but
you
have
to
weave
back
and
forth
across
West
Union
to
use
those
sidewalks,
it's
just
it's
not
safe.
So.
M
I
dare
say
that
this
is
a
complete
Street.
This
is
this
is
making
it
more
accessible
to
more
more
people
in
our
in
our
cities,
so
I
would
I
would
say
this
is
once
again,
you
know
lending
itself
to
being
a
complete
Street
project,
which
is
something
that
we
always
want
to
do
whenever
we
do
an
upgrade
for
a
redo
on
the
street.
Well,.
K
K
When
the
street
was
redone
a
couple
of
years
ago,
it
didn't
quite
happen
in
terms
of
the
striping,
but
that
was
identified
in
the
bike
and
pedestrian
plan
as
a
place
to
have
a
bike
lane.
Whether
we
could
do
that
in
the
future,
when
weary
stripe
or
repay
I
think
that
probably
needs
to
be
looked
at
again,
because
it
is
an
access
point
back
into
the
business.
Uptown
area
off
of
the
bike.
K
Trail
and
and
I
will
also
say
that
the
the
county
is
putting
out
a
map
to
visitor
our
visitor
and
Bureau
that
talks
about
the
brewpubs
and,
where
they're
located
in
how
you
might
be
able
to
cycle
to
other
some
other
establishments,
such
as
the
hot
cider
house
on
the
west
side,
and
that
so
eventually,
I
would
say
that
we
probably
should
have
some
type
of
bike
lane
or
something.
If
we
could
work
that
in
Street.
So
we
are
encouraging
that
kind
of
business
development
never
cost.
M
G
Just
a
couple
things
I
mean
there's
some
interesting
challenges,
as
some
of
you
may
know,
with
West
Union,
especially
that
section
you
know
major
water
line
running
through
there.
The
earth
and
to
is
the
public
right-of-way,
as
our
city
engineer
has
indicated,
is
rather
strange
down
there.
It's
it's
a
it
leans
more
to
the
to
the
north
side
of
the
street,
as
opposed
to
the
south
side
of
the
street,
plus
of
the
ownerships
of
property
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
But
it's
it's
challenging,
but
in
the
future
we
can
certainly
explore
some
possibilities.
G
H
F
F
Fortunately,
we
also
have
some
good
news
to
share.
I
am
stration
stand
on
this
during
the
water
treatment
plant
movement,
specifically
in
Maine
solar
panels.
So
we're
talking
about
solar
panels
earlier
there's
discussion
at
the
new
Apple
to
hear
what
you
guys
address
that
the
updates
to
the
loan,
specifically
with
the
solar
panels,.
G
Yeah,
the
solar
panels
is
going
to
add
cost
to
this,
but
in
terms
of
having
solar
panels
behind
the
meter,
we
also
see
that
it'll
be
W
savings.
You
know,
metering
getting
behind
the
meter
means
that
we're
not
paying
for
some
of
our
electric
from
a
EP
or
whomever
for
on
the
electric
side,
Andy
stone
also
reached
out
to
the
director
of
OAP,
a
our
southeastern
Ohio
director,
see
if
this
is
something
that
could
be
rolled
into
the
project
under
the
loan
and
alone.
This
is
the
watch.
This
bond
revolving
correct.
G
Yeah,
which
again
it's
going
to
be
six
million
nine
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
dollars
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
solar
was
right
around
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
again
over
the
life
of
the
solar
panels,
which
these
days
is
exceeding
twenty
five
years
and
that
we
would
see
our
return
on
investment
within
15
years
or
less
on
those
solar
panels,
which
is,
is
good
once
again.
It's
it's.
It's
kind
of
getting
back
to
the
the
no
Peck
so
Peck
conversation
earlier
this
evening
is
ultimately
it's
it's.
I
C
G
Can
get
you
those
numbers
by
next
Monday
in
terms
of
the
percentage,
but
what
I
can
tell
you?
It's
279,
278
kilowatts
is
what
the
solar
array
will
generate,
which
is
substantial.
There
was
a
couple
different
versions
that
we
were
looking
at.
One
was
much
less.
It
was
just
north
of
a
hundred
kilowatts,
but
in
looking
at
that
land
available
that
is
ours
that
we
can
use
to
put
a
larger
array.
G
We
feel
that
it's
more
cost-effective
in
the
long
run
for
us
to
go
with
the
278
kilowatt
kind
of
generation,
which
is
not
commercial
energy.
You
know
that
when
you
get
up
into
that
range
you're
talking
things
you
know,
plants
that
are
producing
750,
K
or
you're
in
the
mega.
You
know
1
megawatt
of
production
when
you
get
up
into
commercial.
G
G
F
F
I'm
having
a
backup
power
systems
is
important,
so
there's
a
discussion
ere
looking
at
diesel
generator
generator,
so
our
diesel
power
generators
versus
natural
graphic
gas,
so
600
kilowatt
diesel
generator
approximately
270
mm
versus
a
350
kilowatt
natural
gas
generator,
which
would
be
for
the
law
office
building
and
about
250
watt,
kill
250
kilowatt
system
of
natural
gas
with
for
City
Hall.
The
first
estimate
the
two
hundred
seventy
two
thousand
dollars
for
for
diesel
would
be
for
both
buildings.
My
correct
that's
correct
versus
pursuit
of
the
natural
gas
generators,
which
would
be
smaller
generators.
G
Awful
well
I
mean
you
hit
the
cost.
I
mean
this
is
a
cost
estimate.
We
we
know
we're
about.
Two
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
can
come
from
four
generators.
We're
still
gonna
have
to
explore
with
the
remaining
60,000
plus
would
come
from
for
this,
but
I
do
want
to
share
I.
Think
your
example
of
the
derecho
is
a
good
one.
I'll
give
you
one,
that's
that
is
equally
critical
or
crippling,
which
we
just
experienced.
G
You
know
people
had
to
vacate
the
building,
had
it
been
darker
at
night,
and
there
were
people
in
here
how
they
going
to
get
out
with
limited
light
and
I.
Don't
know
that
everyone
carries
a
flashlight
with
them.
Is
one
thing:
the
other
thing
is
the
amount
of
time
and
there's
costs
associated
this,
obviously
that
our
our
IT
director,
David
Dunning,
is
spends
a
lot
of
time
running
around
having
to
reset
the
servers
or
whatever
after
there's
been
a
power
blip
to
this
building.
G
He
also
has
to
do
it
on
occasion
over
in
the
law
building
so
having
something
finally
to
where
we're
protecting
some
of
our
valuable
resources
in
terms
of
IT
infrastructure
that
we're
able
to
do
it
with
these
these
or
one
really,
you
know
looking
cost-effectively,
you
know
saving
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
by
going
with
a
diesel
generation
which
also
from
a
maintenance,
as
we
understand
it.
This
came
from
Claypool,
who
did
the
estimate
on
this
Claypool.
I
L
G
G
Of
the
place
Department
thank
you,
but
it
would
be
stored,
ground-level
down
somewhere
within
the
design,
and
we
also
have
I
just
learned
this.
The
things
you
learn
on
a
daily
basis
is
that
we
we
actually
have
diesel
hauling
in
the
city
8,
so
you
know
just
to
continually
pump
into
them.
Those
would
be
where
we're
filling
from
as
opposed
to
leading
out
here.
You
know
two
thousand
gallon
diesel
fuel
tank
or
whatever
to.
H
G
L
Right
one
of
the
problems
that
happened
during
the
duration
was
that,
because
it
was
so
universal
fuel
supplies
were
exhausted,
very
quickly
people
could
you
couldn't
get
the
fuel
out
of
the
ground
or
out
of
the
tanks,
because
it
was
no
power
to
supply
them.
So
unless
I
mean
thinking
worst-case
scenario,
if
that
happened
again,
then
what
would
a
two-day
supply
be
adequate.
H
L
I
think
that
natural
gas
is
virtually
uninterruptible,
I
mean
look
up,
the
occasionally
a
line
will
go
down
as
a
leak,
and
you
may
come
in
the
repaired
stuff.
In
my
lifetime,
I've
experienced
one
major
gas
break,
and
that
was
when
I'm
6
years
old
and
MacArthur
and
something
seriously
happened
to
the
supply,
and
that
was
out
for
a
week
and
it
was
in
the
winter.
It
was
cold,
but
that
was
60
years
ago.
I
L
I
Have
a
port
not
to
operate
the
entire
plant?
We
have
the
hookup
that's
being
in
this.
The
upgrades
will
be
without
the
actual
connector
to
a
high
universities,
big
mother.
G
L
G
L
G
E
M
Yes,
thank
you
I
guess
my
you
know
some
of
my
first
questions
would
be
we
just.
We
just
went
through
the
process
of
changing
over
to
LEDs
and
we're
saving
40%
on
our
energy
bill.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
city
has
already
done
that
with
these
fluorescents
that
we
that
we
have
in
here,
but
I
would
think
that
we
could
lessen
our
energy
that's
being
spent
on
this
building.
If
we
haven't
already
done
those
kind
of
upgrades
to
begin
with,
there
are
some
of
the
other
things
out.
M
The
the
post
office
has
a
diesel
powered
generator
so
when
the
power
goes
out
on
Simpson
Avenue,
the
first
thing
you
get
is
this
big
plume
of
black
smoke,
so
the
whole
street
gets
cold
rolled
and
then
there's
it's
a
little
bit
noisier
and
it
does
in
it,
and
it
does
have
the
special
smell
that
some
people
really
like
and
their
vehicles.
So
you
know
that's.
So
that's
something
to
consider
with
with
the
Uptown
I
mean
I
understand.
M
This
is
an
emergency
area,
but
I
would
I
would
really
be
curious
to
know
what
what
that
gas
one
is.
My
neighbor
has
it
has
a
gas-powered
one
and
it
sounds
like
a
lawnmower,
a
lawnmower
that
runs
24
hours
a
day,
but
you
know
still
it
sounds
like
a
lawn
and
then
oh
the
last
day.
I
would
argue
that
everybody
has
carries
a
flashlight
with
them
at
this
day
and
age.
I
F
I
G
Which
would
be
an
authorizing
lease
of
fourteen
point?
Four
acres.
Thank
you.
I'm
sure
this
is
in
there
we
go.
Don't
worry
another
buddy!
You
can
see
state
route
50
up
there,
but
again
this
is
the
Northeast
quarter,
a
portion
of
the
city
owned
property,
Canaan
Ville.
That
is
no
longer
useful
for
spreading
sludge.
It
was
also
used
to
to
haul
a
lot
of
the
residue
from
the
water
treatment
wastewater
treatment,
plant
renovation
that
took
there
so
there's
also
some
waste
debris
out
there.
That
further
complicates
this
piece
of
problem.
G
Does
it
exist,
along
with
the
same
Ohio,
Revised,
Code,
ordinance
or
title
that
speaks
to
the
selling
of
property
that
the
city
owns?
There's
also
a
section
there
that
speaks
to
leasing
those
property
or
leasing
property,
so
it
is
permissible
under
Ohio
Revised
Code.
So
this
will
again
likely
go
out
to
the
highest
bidder.
To
go
out.
G
The
closest
one
that
I'm
familiar
with
is
in
Zanesville
and
it
is
a
a
commercial
energy
production.
It's
a
big
production
they
have
up.
There
is
called
quasar,
there
was
actually
a
field
trip.
I
wasn't
able
to
make
it
County
Commissioners
meal
kind
of
put
that
together
to
go
and
see
a
commercial
grade.
Methane
digester.
Now
it
works,
and
it
was
interesting,
was
interesting
to
see
because
they
even
had
methane
filling
stations
that
that
buses
that
use
that
can
run
on
gas
and
people
up
as
well,
and
then
it
produces
fertilizer.