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A
You
follow
order
a
medium
special
session
of
Athens
City,
Council
Monday,
July,
11th
2005,
with
all
members
present,
a
seventh
member
of
council
I.
Although
I'm
leading
the
meeting
and
Bill's
absence
I
will
be
voting
as
a
regular
member
of
Council
of
ordinances
for
third
reading
Oh
5005,
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
submit
an
application
and
execute
it
execute
an
agreement
with
the
Ohio
Public
Works
Commission
for
a
clean
or
conservation
grade.
A
C
B
C
A
D
0:20
6205
speken
yeah:
this
is
for
purchasing
of
a
leaf
a
vacuum.
Cleaner
you've
had
one
it
broke.
We
were
buying
another
one.
It's
about
twenty-seven
thousand,
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars
it's
turning
from
the
street
fund.
This
will
get
us
online,
so
we
can
suck
up
the
leaves
off
to
our
streets
when
everybody
puts
in
there.
A
E
F
A
G
D
Is
for
the
purchase
of
a
one-ton
four-wheel
dump
truck?
This
is
for
the
street
department.
As
you
see
it's
coming
out
of
the
street
funds,
220
I
think
we
discussed
this
a
little
bit
on
other
meetings
concerning
whether
it
would
be
cheaper.
What
the
difference
between
a
four-wheel
drive
and
two-wheel
drive
director
stone
state
about
two
thousand
dollars
main
use
of
this
will
be
to
put
on
the
salt
distributor
as
well
as
a
plow
on
the
front
end.
Its
intention
is
to
use
this
on
the
smaller
roads
for
plowing
dialogue
ahead,
I
believe.
A
C
B
D
D
This
is
about
18th
that
or
leasing
hold
on
$18,000.
It's
part
of
our
contract
where's
the
Athens
Hawking
waste
districts
who
supply
them
these
devices,
the
devices
we
have
right
now
barely
hold
I
think
it
covers
it's
coming
from
various
places.
Sewer
fund,
garbage
fund,
I,
think
that
covers
it
right.
There.
C
A
F
Madam
president,
when
we
read
this
before
I
had
said
that
I'd
asked
ray
hayslett
for
some
information
about
what
might
be
on
a
permit.
That's
talked
about
in
this
ordinance
and
he
asked
the
chief
of
police
to
provide
that
so
I'm
just
going
to
pass
copies
of
this
around.
We
can
look
at
it
if
we
need
to
discuss
it
at
third
reading.
G
A
All
right
over
6505,
an
ordinance
authorizing
architectural
design
permits
and
construction
for
renovation
of
the
Arts
West
community
facility,
declaring
an
emergency
Carol
Patterson.
Second
reading,
okay,
that
was
6605
an
ordinance
establishing
the
wellhead
protection
area.
As
of
title
39
as
title
39
of
the
ethnicity
code
and
amending
Alton
City
Code
title
23,
zoning
section,
23,
o
411
to
designate
the
wellhead
protection
area
as
another
lesson.
Oh.
A
Sixty
seven,
oh
five,
an
ordinance
banning
parking
and
closing
that
portion
of
Court
Street
from
precedent
to
carpenter
on
October
29
and
30
2005
in
anticipation
of
a
large
number
of
people
converging
on
downtown
and
since
Halloween
weekend,
Oh
68.
Oh
five,
an
ordinance
suspending
the
enforcement
of
Code,
section
1304
Oh,
ten
unnecessary
noise
in
the
downtown
area
on
October
29th
and
30th
2005
Oh
6905,
an
ordinance
suspending
the
enforcement
of
athens
city
code,
chapter
1104,
bending
peddling
and
soliciting
to
allow
bending
in
designated
areas
on
October,
29
and
30th
Halloween
weekend.
Madam.
H
D
So
what
this
is
doing
is
actually
flattening
a
fee
down
before
we
had
my
memories.
Correct
one
space
was
3:30,
the
next
one
was
990.
So
now
one
space
is
500.
Two
spaces
is
1,000.
No,
every
time
you
buy
a
space,
it's
500,
okay.
So
if
I
buy
two
spaces,
it's
costing
me
$5,000.
If
I
buy
three
spaces
rather
than
1,800
and
changed,
it
will
now
be
1500
by
buying
three
spaces.
G
D
D
D
A
Reference
to
the
question
I
believe
that
the
code
office
Teresa
Carter,
sent
back
some
really
good
information
on
this,
and
she
talked
about
how
people
circumvent
the
situation,
the
law
that
we
had
and
the
rule
is
one
space
and
they
get
their
friends
to
go
for
the
second
one.
You
know.
So
there
are
all
kinds
of
circumvention
that
are
there
so,
rather
than
just
play
that
game.
She
suggested
this
and
cleared
it
with
the
mayor,
and
some
of
you
actually
read
this
already
taking
care
of
the
problem
that
is
in
there.
Okay,.
A
A
B
A
F
B
B
So
we
could
yes,
I
understand
that
and
I
applaud
these
changes,
but
I
mean
the
the
500
just
makes
infinitely
more
sense
than
saying
it's
X
and
then
plus
ax
and
blows
wide
whatever,
and
the
clarification
of
that
any
local
business
can
you
know,
buy
in
on
that
basis.
I
think
that's
excellent.
The
only
thing
that
we
really
haven't
addressed
is
the
question
of
our
current
license
holders,
and
if
this
is
the
best
way
to
handle
that
particular
situation,
the
rest
of
it
I
think
the
changes
are
excellent.
So,
let's.
A
F
On
the
amendment
is,
as
you
said,
we
we've
suspended
these
rules
for
a
number
of
years,
a
decade
or
more
and
we've
just
we've
discovered
this
little
space
that
we've
left
out
and
now
we're
closing
that
space
up
in
requiring
vendors
who
use
that
space
for
all
those
years
to
pay
and
I.
Just
assume
not
do
that
this.
At
this
point,
it
disgusts
the
whole
issue
of
vending
fees
and
some
later.
C
F
Of
all
of
our
other
times
suspension
of
this,
we
went
with
this
map
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
we
realized
we're
leaving
some
people
out
that
we
can
get
some
money
and
I
just
I.
Don't
like
the
idea
of
turning
around
and
doing
that
so
quickly,
I
I
was
I,
have
been
for
charging.
What
I
think
is
a
fair
rent
or
the
for
the
street
space
and
on
that
night
costs
us
a
whole
lot
more
to
provide
that
Street
space
and
that
opportunity.
A
A
A
E
A
E
A
E
B
E
E
E
A
E
E
D
One
that
is
between
a
and
B
as
well
as
that.
If
there's
nobody
at
the
a
stand
you
can't
park
there,
I've
had
something
come
across
to
me.
Just
this
past
week
saying
you
know:
I
go
there,
there's
no
it
as
a
space
at
the
a
I
can't
park
that,
because
it's
a
vending
so
they're,
even
holding
places
when
they're
not
there.
A
A
I
Name
is
Paul,
will
Dec
and
my
address
is
one:
seventy
five,
two
five
things
got
run
road
a
name's
bill.
I
spoke
last
week
and
I
don't
want
to
go
over
the
same
points
exactly
as
I
did
last
week.
I
would
I,
but
just
to
recoup
I'm
I'm
opposed
to
this.
One
hundred
and
fifty
dollar
fee
for
permanent
vendors
and
I
have
asked
councilman
Phillips
to
strike
that
and
I
think
that
I've
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
the
reasons
that
I
think
it
should
be.
I
To
recap:
I
feel
like
I've
worked
for
20
years
as
a
vendor,
I'm
out
there
all
winter
long
all
year
long
and
we
create
jobs
in
the
community.
We
generate
city
income
taxes
all
year,
long
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
treated
like
every
other
business
in
the
city.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
I.
Don't
think
that
vendors
should
help
defray
the
costs
of
Halloween
I.
Think
that
that's
a
perfectly
appropriate
request
for
the
city
to
make.
I
I
Don't
think
this
would
be
any
exception
to
that
rule.
I
think
that
what
I'm
proposing
is
a
lot
more
inclusive,
it's
a
lot
more
consensus
building
and
it's
a
lot
more
win-win,
especially
if
the
people
who
make
the
contributions
are
given
some
kind
of
public
recognition.
Last
week,
I
suggested
that
it's
possible
that
newspapers
would
donate
space
for
a
full-page
ad
to
list
the
people
who
gave
contributions.
I
think
I
really
don't
understand.
I
What
is
wrong
with
my
idea
or
what
this
other
idea
of
mandating
$150
fee
IIIi,
don't
understand
how
that
could
be
better
than
what
I'm
proposing
I'd
like
for
somebody
when
I
sit
down.
If
someone
would
be
kind
enough
to
explain
what
is
better
about
that
idea
than
the
one
I'm
proposing
I
think
that,
from
the
from
the
a
and
B
vendors
last
year,
the
figure
that
I
read
was
the
city
got
seven
hundred
to
seventy
dollars.
I
I
think
that,
with
even
with
even
a
small
effort
for
asking
for
donations
from
the
business
community
at
large,
there
could
be
more
money
than
that
generated.
The
vendors
that
I
talked
to
every
single
one
of
them
said
that
they
would
be
willing
to
contribute
money
for
these
kinds
of
costs,
but
we
don't
want
to
be
the
only
ones
who
are
being
asked
and
I
think
I
think
the
idea
that
that
just
won't
work,
it
kind
of
sells
short
the
business
community
I
think
that
it
makes
some
pretty
negative
assumptions
about
business.
I
People
I
think
that
they
would
give
too
safe
to
say
that
you
have
to
mandate
$150
fee
on
a
small
section
of
people.
What
that
implies
is
that
they
wouldn't
be
willing
to
give
in
the
first
place
if
they
are
respectfully
asked
and
to
not
even
bother
to
ask
the
rest
of
the
businesses
on
Court,
Street
or
other
businesses
who
are
members
of
and
profit
from,
this
kind
of
assumes
that
they
would
not
want
to
help
either
I
I,
just
really
don't
get
it
I'd
like
for
somebody
to
explain
that
to
me.
I
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
comment
on
is
this
issue
that
Paul
brought
up
about
space.
It's
not
really
a
silly
issue
because,
as
I
sat
there
and
thought
about
it,
you
can
have
one
space
and
if
it's
a
parking
space
well,
then
you
can
fit
two
things
into
one
parking
space,
I
think
that
might
be
some
of
what
you're
talking
about
or
or
is
a
space
just
the
space
that
any
monstrous
thing
that
somebody
drags
in
can
occupy.
I
One
of
the
things
that
I've
never
really
heard,
addressed-
or
maybe
it's
just
never
been
considered-
is
the
a
and
B
vendors
have
restrictions
on
the
types
of
vehicles
they
can
have.
They
can
only
be
14
feet
that
can
only
be
8
feet
wide
and
10
feet
high.
The
vendors
who
come
in
for
this
one-time
thing
can
bring
anything
they
want
it.
You
know
they
can
bring
in
motorized
you.
I
A
A
G
A
D
D
Paul
last
night
and
the
I
know
we
have
three
two
more
readings
of
this
obviously,
and
my
suggestion,
which
was
as
I,
tell
him
to
which
is
suggestion.
If
he
can
come
up
with
greater
than
the
sum
from
contributions,
then
maybe
we
would
void
it,
but
right
now,
I
just
look
at
the
bottom
line
at
what
cost
for
our
Halloween
the
cost
of
our
Halloween.
On
the
other
hand,
I
do
not
know
what
Jonathan
collects
from
the
business
people
uptown
my
view
of
the
business
people
has
to
do
with
the
sidewalk.
D
The
sidewalk,
which
we
spent
lots
of
money
on
and
they
spent
lots
of
money
on,
looks
pretty
bad.
You
can
tell
where
the
thresholds
are
for
all
the
bars
you
just
look
down
there.
You
can
see
the
dirt
rolling
out
of
the
place.
You
can
look
at
the
gum,
that's
been,
there
definitely
be
painted
pink
before
anybody
noticed
it.
We
spent
for
the
but
three
hundred
two
hundred
thousand
per
block.
D
D
If
somebody
pointed
up
all
that
stuff
saying
this
is
what
we
get
from
the
sales
tax.
This
is
what
you
get
from
the
high
others.
The
hotel
tax
gave
me
those
numbers,
maybe
I,
think
different,
but
I
have
yet
to
see
those
numbers
as
numbers
and
after
all,
I'm.
Just
a
lowly
lab
tech
who
looks
at
the
numbers.
Was
it
the
data.
A
F
A
A
The
recent
past
Oh
7005
an
ordinance
amending
the
often
city
code,
title
23,
zoning
chapter
20,
303,
general
regulations
of
admitted
modifications,
section,
23,
Oh,
308
yard
regulations,
an
ordinance,
terminating
tax,
abatements
authorized
by
the
city
of
Athens
to
CSP
week,
Oh
70
205,
an
ordinance
continuing
the
tax
abatement
authorized
by
the
city
of
Athens
for
the
HD
Elson,
or
need
support.
First
reading,
170
505
an
ordinance
granting
a
revocable
license
to
Josephine
Molly
owner
270,
East,
8th
Street
to
construct
a
deck
that
will
reproach
in
the
city
ride
flea
market.
Thank
you
thank.
E
You
kind
of
president
this.
This
is
an
item
that's
before
us
as
a
result
of
committee
meeting,
and
also
as
a
result
of
some
questions
that
we've
asked
in
the
administration
regarding
the
potential
of
problems
with
any
utility
underground
utilities
that
may
be
close
by
where
this
this
deck
is
proposed
to
be
built
on
exhibit
a
that's
with
the
answer
we
got
back
from
the
administration
is
that
they
may
they
have
investigated.
They
do
not
find
anything
to
be
concerned
about
with
regard
to
the
the
deck
and
the
easements.
E
Our
utility
settlement
they
have
belief
is
that
the
utilities
are
in
the
street
not
beside
the
street,
and
so
that
that
we're
not
talking
about
a
problem
with
those.
So
this
is
for
a
deck
and
I
think
the
description
of
the
270
state,
it's
the
corner
of
State
and
Alexander.
The
recommendation
is
also
that.
K
E
Making
a
suggestion
to
the
board
Zoning
Appeals
that
because
it
requires
also
a
zoning
variance
that
the
variance
and
the
revocable
license
be
treated
as
a
sort
of
does
a
concurrent
running
concurrently,
Debbie
I
thought
we
were
going
to
do
conditional
use
permit.
Is
there
a
change?
Is
that
section
four.
A
E
Okay,
well,
the
spirit
of
our
conversation
was
that,
because
we
have
two
things
happening,
the
variance
and
the
revocable
license.
One
goes
with
the
property,
the
variance
when
the
wrote
the
license
is
attached
to
an
individual
property
owner
that
it
would
be
in
our
best
interest
to
treat
both
of
them
as
running
with
the
property
owner
and
that's
the
spirit
of
what's
in
these
warehouses
and
also
back
in
Section
four.
Basically,
if
the
board's
own
appeals
says
no
to
the
variance,
it
comes
back,
we're
back
to
scratch.
A
A
F
F
A
B
President,
this
ordinance
is,
as
it
says,
to
pay
a
prior
year's
bill
for
twenty
twelve
thousand,
seven
hundred
to
Ohio
University.
It
pertains
to
our
contract
where
we
handled
the
the
regional
bus
service
that
comes
through
Athens.
This
is
a
pass
through.
The
money
has
now
been
received,
and
is
the
auditor
has
said
that
it's
a
certified
resource
as
of
the
15th
of
this
month,
and
the
other
thing
that
you
need
to
know
is
on
our
current
money
sheet
transportations
in
the
red,
but
that
money
does
come
in
quarterly
and
it
should
be
fine.
A
D
L
Yes,
when
we
started
the
street
repaving
program
in
my
reporter
that
they
took
tivity
two
weeks
ago,
we
were
running
into
some
problem
of
around
York
and
Canterbury
that
we
had
done.
I
think
it
was
eight
sample
test
boards
to
see
what
was
beneath
the
existing
pavement
and
all
of
those
came
out.
Okay
and
it
was
concrete
bags
and
director
streets
who's.
The
project
engineer
on
this
decided
of
a
certain
process
to
do
it,
a
portion
of
those
streets,
mostly
where
we
didn't
run
the
test
boards
and
they
found
dilapidated
concrete
on
any.
L
L
C
L
It's
down
there
in
the
first
somewhere,
but
it's
not
anything
were
there
for
our
base.
So
they've
been
trying
to
button
this
up
enough
to
be
able
to
for
the
next
next
rain
to
get
it
sealed
enough
to
be
able
to
ask
for
what
we
thought
was
going
to
cost
about
eighty
one
thousand
dollars
with
their
allowances
in
there.
Now
it's
going
to
cost
three
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand,
but
that
one
speak
for
that.
One
Street
I
have
any
contractors
estimate
with.
If
you
want
to
look
it
over,
but
making.
G
L
Other
changes
in
there
to
be
able
to
not
performed
the
workout
on
the
bypass
and
did
some
other
things
used
to
follow
our
contingency,
etc,
and
that
gets
it
down
to
three
changes
that
are
in
this
ordinance.
The
original
ordinance
did
not
have
a
charge
for
Parks
and
Recreation
for
the
paving
of
Highland
Park
parking
lot
and
sells
parks.
L
And
it's
something
that
we
reason
for
my
asking
for
suspension
is:
if
we
have
bad
rain
and
we
don't
get
this
thing,
buttoned
up
everything
we
spent
so
far
could
just
go
away
and
you
could
start
over
it
and
cost.
Who
does
what
and
our
other
concern
of
it
is
safety,
because
if
you
have
a
road
with
some
clay
and
some
gravel
and
everything
on
it,
then
it
gets
wet
and
gets
soft.
L
How
do
you
get
a
fire
truck
out
there
if
you
have
an
emergency
situation
for
it,
so
they
worked
late
tonight
trying
to
get
enough
of
everything.
I
know:
I
talked
to
a
couple.
People
in
the
area
and
the
residents
are
bearing
with
it,
but
it's
it's
getting
a
little
tiring.
Now,
since
we've
been
up
there
for
about
a
week
and
a
half
trying
to
wrestle
with
this
problem,
okay,.
D
E
D
K
D
F
D
B
C
A
M
A
L
G
C
L
Have
to
assess
where
we
are
and
that,
as
we
look
in
the
next
year,
I
think
it
isn't
going.
It
wouldn't
be
nearly
as
much
as
a
cutback
is
probably
what
was
planned
in
some
years,
because
we've
had
this
two
cents
per
gallon
tax,
phased
in
two
cents
per
years,
the
third
year
of
it
that
just
came
in
in
July,
so
we'll
be
generating
some
more
funds,
I
think
in
our
Finance
Committee
evaluation.
A
Streets
and
they're
really
happy
with
the
way
it
went
and
that
it
was
early
and
it
was
a
minimum
disruption.
So
I
guess
one
out
of
all
of
these
isn't
bad,
but
we
have
had
consistent
problems
with
this
area.
That
developer
apparently
used
a
magic
marker
or
something
I'm,
just
joking,
but
you
understand
not
very
much
preparation,
not
any
inspection,
and
maybe
next
time
we
won't
take
it
off
till.
We
do
more
course,
I.
Think.
L
That
there's
a
couple
things
we'll
we're
learning
from
this
one
is
probably
a
limitation
on
the
weight
of
the
trucks
and
construction
equipment.
That's
going
to
come
in
where
we
have
a
suspected
bad
base
because
they're
using
some
of
the
largest
trucks,
the
construction
people
have
and
that's
extra
weight,
but
if
we
would,
but
at
the
same
time,
once
it's
been
damaged
like
that,
you
even
take
a
one
tonne
you're
going
to
get
more
damage.
We
there's
some
things
in
there.
L
L
Why
it
was
about
ten
years
ago,
one
of
the
things
that
I
did
was
we
now
have
for
maintenance
texts
that
have
been
trained
and
inspection
and
they
go
with
the
contractors
on
all
of
the
jobs,
especially
new
subdivisions
that
we
put
in,
and
there
they're,
probably
at
least
sometimes
they're
there
full-time.
To
put
it
inform
the
nature
and
scope
of
the
the
work
so
that
we're
being
assured
that
the
rules
that
we
have
get
farmed
and
it's
it's
really
just
an
investment
for
the
future.
L
It
can
seem
a
little
pricey
when
I'm
when
we
did
a
State
Street
and
they
work
till
eight
o'clock
at
night.
We're
moving
our
inspector
was
there
at
8
o'clock
at
night
and
it
cost
us
a
bit
of
overtime
dollars
and
long.
That
person
was
assigned
there
full
time,
but
we
had
a
city
employee
that
was
trained
to
inspect
there
the
whole
time
the
State
Street
was
built.
I
think
you
know
long
run.
Some
future
Council
won't
be
faced
with
something
because
we
changed
our
operating
procedures.
Certainly.
A
A
L
A
F
Beginning
our
planning
and
development
committee
speak
talking
about
the
possibility
of
vacating
a
portion
of
East
Union
Street,
or
should
we
call
Jeff
hill?
My
past
around
copies
of
some
memos
that
I
told
your
last
committee
meeting
I
had
misplaced,
so
you
all
have
those
talk
about
them
and
I
hope
you
all
got
a
email
from
planning
an
implementation
office
at
the
University.
Regarding
that,
so
we're
going.
F
N
My
name
is
John
Kotowski
and
dinah
be
associate
vice
president
for
planning
and
implementation
at
Ohio.
University
I
returned
once
again
to
ask
that
the
planning
and
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
consider
asking
City
Council
to
entertain
an
ordinance
to
to
vacate,
as
Jim
had
said,
east
Union
Street
assent,
essentially
an
East
Union
Street
from
University
terrorists
to
Stewart
Street,
again
I
think
it's
a
I
feel
that
it's
a
win-win.
N
We
we
will
we
plan
to
invest
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
the
street,
to
upgrade
it
to
make
it
a
safer,
Street,
correct
the
surface
problems
and
also
improved
lighting.
If,
in
fact,
the
street
is
vacated,
I
don't
want
to
get
into
everything.
We
did
I
talked
about
two
weeks
ago,
but
I
did
respond
to
or
III
responded
to
be
an
email
to
Paul,
wiles,
request
or
desire
to
know
the
acreage
involved
in
that
email.
N
That
I
think
got
to
each
of
you
we're
talking
about
approximately
eight
tenths
of
an
acre,
as
was
calculated
by
an
individual
in
my
office,
in
that
email.
I
also
noted
that
over
the
last
10
years,
or
so,
the
university
has
responded
to
requests
by
the
city
to
provide
land
for
a
variety
of
uses
for
actually
three
uses
for
bike
path,
as
well
as
relief
sewer
work
and
and
the
University
responded
by
providing
that
land
that
totals
approximately
ten
acres.
I.
N
Think
the
other
issue
that
came
up
two
weeks
ago
was
I
had
indicated
that
if,
in
fact
we
the
property
was
vacated
and
we
got
under
under
contract
with
an
engineer,
I
was
going
to
ask
that
engineer
to
look
at
whether
or
not
it
made
sense
to
to
to
eliminate
the
water
lying
on
Jeff
hill.
I
think
that
the
water
department
and
the
city
administration
has
taken
a
look
at
that
I.
Don't
think
they
feel
that
that's
really
a
viable
option
and
at
least
based
on
their
assessment
to
maintain
loops
and
water
pressures.
N
N
Anyway,
no,
it
would
be
a
pedestrian
street.
We,
you
know,
gonna
talk
with
the
administration.
They
don't
feel
that
it's
a
real
viable
street
from
a
safety
and
and
services
perspective,
and
in
talking
with
our
folks,
we're
hoping
to
look
at
as
a
part
of
our
master
plan,
reorganizing
to
improve
egress
and
ingress
into
the
East
green
area
in
that
north
green
area.
But
that
would
not
be
a
part
of
it.
That
would
remain
a
pedestrian
way
as
a
part
of
the
reorganization
could.
A
So
just
walking
through
this,
then
thinking
about
so
you've
got
some
a
10-foot
line,
attend
the
ten
inch
line
and
I
guess.
The
sewer
line
too
I
have
a
hard
time
understanding
what
Nick
Joseph
is
saying
here,
but
let's
just
say,
and
they
have
to
be
10
feet
up.
Wouldn't
the
easement
take
almost
all
of
your.
What.
N
You're
asking
it
would
come,
it
would
come
very
close
to
that.
That's
right
that!
That's
why
the
idea
of
building
on
that
site
and
that
site
being
a
very
viable
building
site
is
is
this
is
pretty
restricted
you
know,
but
but
as
a
part
of
this
whole
thing,
we'll
we'll
look
with
the
city
as
where's
the
best
location.
For
for
that
it
could
be
that
it's.
It
would
be
better
located
off
the
street
a
little
bit
if
we
do
in
fact
replace
any
of
the
line.
N
A
C
A
A
A
permanent
easement,
that's
correct,
and
so,
and
yet
we
allow
the
city
administration
to
invest
suit
in
that
arrangement.
So
it's
non
possessory
interest
in
the
land
is
what
an
easement
is,
and
so
that
means
that
you
still
own
billions
under
that.
We
have
given
you
for
the
Silver
Line
right
and
it
seems
to
me
John
that
we
were
pretty
generous.
A
We
gave
you
a
20-foot
right-of-way
for
your
heating
tunnel
with
the
hill
and
free
use
to
the
bridge
too,
and
so,
when
you're
making
your
equations
I
think
we
ought
to
go
back
to
that
one.
The
20
inch
20-foot
right
away
across
the
hill
and
the
Southside
park
with
the
heating
tunnel.
Last
year's
thing,
I.
A
To
15,
okay,
these
all
say
20
on,
ladies
so
I
mean
not
to
put
too
fine
a
point
on
it.
Cuz,
that's
not
my
main
point.
My
main
point
is
what
happens
in
the
future.
If
a
future
administration
would
like
to
open
that
hill
I
mean
Christopher
ever
it's
a
long
time,
if
we
give
it
over,
why
wouldn't
we
be
wise
so
to
give
you
a
permanent
easement.
N
D
N
D
C
N
Had
conversations
at
length
with
the
city
about
the
fact
that
that
that
we
would
like
to
do
this
and
I
would
be
coming
to
Council
once
the
one
once
I
was
sure
there
would
be
money
to
do
the
project
I
wasn't
going
to
come
to
council
if
I
didn't
feel
that
there
was
money
to
do
the
project.
You
do
not
have
to
do
this.
N
N
A
A
F
F
A
F
Correct,
that's,
okay,
you
know
fancying
in
this
top
page
of
the
memoranda.
I
gave
you
paragraph
four
think
Rea
know
paragraph
three
I
think
raees
letters
saying
he
recommends
because
of
the
separation
of
the
sewer
and
water
lines,
etc.
He
recommends,
if
we
vacate
it
just
to
maintain
work
easements
for
the
entire
width
of
the
street,
maybe
even
the
entire
weekend
or
the
right-of-way
there.
So
would
it
would
again,
as
John
said,
preclude
building
anything
permanent
there,
because.
F
H
Was
looking
over
the
memos
that
you
provided
about
the
cost
and
it
looks
like
the
estimates
that
have
been
done
on
what
it
would
cost
the
city
to
replace
those
sewer
and
water
lines?
Don't
give
a
lot
more
leave
a
lot
of
leeway
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
materials
we're
talking
about.
It
says
that
the
the
line
where
it's
the
clay
tile
on
the
hill
portion
is
237
feet
and
that
we're
looking
at
two
hundred
and
fifty
feet
worth
of
piping
in
both
of
us,
so
the
notion
of
possibly
moving
or
realigning.
H
H
N
H
And
I
guess
my
main
concern
about
this
continues
to
be
whether
we,
whether
the
city,
would
need
to
work
on
these
water
lines
or
sewer
lines.
Now
you
know
within
the
next
couple
of
years
or
whether
that
would
be
would
come
up
at
a
different
time
for
us
as
we're
dealing
with
infrastructure
needs
throughout
the
city.
N
You
know
my
only
response
to
that
would
be.
You
may
be
in
a
position
where
you
have
to
do
it
anyway
or
a
sizable
portion
of
it.
If
you
have
some
failure,
there
I
mean
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
where
we're
going
to
you
know,
remove
the
surface
and
and
and
put
it
back
and
and
so
it
keeps
the
cost
as
low
as
possible,
and
you
may
have
more
costs
than
even
this.
N
N
You
know
right
now,
you
you
probably
don't
have
to,
but
but
again,
if
you
this
winner,
if
you
have
a
failure
there
you
will
have
to,
and
and
hopefully
what
will
happen
is
if
you
invest
the
money
there
and
we
invest
the
money,
we'll
have
a
safer
way
for
a
safer
means
of
moving
up
and
down
the
hill
and
and
you'll
have
utilities
that
will
be.
You
know
put
to
rest
and,
and
the
concern
for
failure
will
be,
will
be
behind
us
all.
So.
A
F
I
think
that
again
the
discussion,
the
sewer
department
and
Ray
Hayes
that
was
saying
that
actually
the
sewer
line
has
been
replaced
above
and
below
the
hill.
They
just
never
replaced
on
the
hill
because
they
didn't
want
to.
It
was
so
difficult.
The
water
line,
the
only
place
that's
broken,
is
on
the
hill
right
on
the
lower
part
of
the
street.
We
haven't
done
any
problems
so
again,
we're
just
we're
talking
about
problem
areas
and
I.
F
Don't
I
didn't
include
a
copy
of
a
memo
because
it
was
so
long
ago,
but
shortly
after
the
water
line
went
out
on
Jeff
hill
and
there
was
so
much
construction
and
tearing
up
that
went
on
I
think
we
had
I
think
it
was
Jeff
maiden
who
does
some
engineering
work
before
us?
Look
at
that
and
he
estimated
him
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
repair
it
at
that
time.
The
water
line
in
the
street,
so
one
can
only
assume
that's
gone
up
some
in
the
last
two
years,
but
I.
F
B
N
N
My
guess
is
that
we
will
not
be
in
a
position
of
doing
anything
until
the
very
earliest
would
be
next
summer
and
I
am,
as
I
had
told
Wayne
and
the
mayor
I'm
prepared
to
try
to
coordinate
it
to
best
meet
the
needs
of
the
city.
I
mean
I'd
like
to
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
we
can
in
one
way.
You
know
time
is
money,
and
and
and
it
continues
to
erode-
which
what
you
can
do
and
and
of
course
then
it
just
you
know
it.
N
It
continues
to
be
as
it
is,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
I
understand,
you
know
that
that
that
maybe
in
order
to
be
able
to
do
this,
you
want
to
you
know,
bridge
between
fiscal
years
or
do
it
in
in
you
know,
in
a
different
thing,
you
know
I'm
happy
to
try
to
coordinate
that
and
in
time
the
project.
Accordingly,.
A
C
A
L
L
L
A
I
mean
if
you
remove,
if
you
have
the
only
time
that
ten-foot
thing
is
gonna
kick
in
as
if
you're
gonna
go
to
a
PTI
situation.
My
bigger
question
was,
and
are
you
gonna
put
in
a
gravel
on
it
because
the
most
of
the
hillsides
were
would
have
done
silver
slightly,
and
so
we
put
seen
I
mean
that
would
be
for
John
I,
don't
know
where
US
gravel
around
it
to
protect
it.
Well,.
L
L
L
A
All
right,
I
guess
I
would
finally
close
by
saying
Jim
that
I
have
some
issues
with
respect
to
us
paying
for
these
utilities,
because
Patton
Street,
for
example,
two
breaks
in
one
week
and
you
know-
is
we
haven't
really
placed
that
line
and
probably
we
want
in
the
near
term,
was
so
bad
that
one
of
the
trucks
fell
into
it.
Actually,
you.
A
Vehicle,
yes,
and
because
it
was
washed
out
and
so
I
I'm
kind
of
echoing
what
Debbie
said
earlier,
that
we
do
have
some
more
pressing
needs
and
I'd
like
to
see
those
addressed.
But
you
know
there
seems
to
be
some
sort
of
oh.
D
C
D
Safety
issue
you
talk
about
walking
on
the
brick
streets,
we
decided
for
less
than
what
we're
talking
about
giving
it
away.
It
is
valuable
property
we
had
mr.
Weil
deck
talked
about
$10
per
square
foot
for
renting
on
Hawking.
This
is
much
close
to
that
town.
Although
I
wouldn't
want
to
drag
the
blue
bungee
up
it.
I
look
at
the
lighting
we
used
to
have
when
I,
first
I,
don't
city
counts
to
ten
years
ago,
some
kind
of
lighting
list
for
street
lighting
I,
don't
until
that
disappeared.
Many
years
ago,
I.
D
D
The
way
the
slope
is
these
days
is
that
the
city,
the
university,
does
not
give
up
land,
they
give
the
easements
we
give
up
land
just
because
it
takes
seven
s
bozos
to
do
it
or
less
and
I
have
a
problem
being
quite
wearing
two
hats
that
I
have
to
convince
myself.
I
represent
the
city
enough
to
the
University
on
this
again,
I
say
that
again
and
I
get,
and
the
fact
is,
we're
gonna
need
all
of
it
anyway,
as
easements
its
own
ownership
issue.
F
E
Just
the
discussion
that
the
committee
level
is
to
decide
whether
an
ordinance
needs
to
be
put
forward,
I
would
suggest
that
we
put
1/4
I.
Think
the
tenor
of
the
discussion
suggests
that
you
know
people
have
strongly
felt
feelings
about
this
and
we,
you
know
we
ought
to,
and
we
ought
to
for
my
my
own
case,
I
I,
look
at
a
street
that
used
to
be
a
street
that
isn't
a
street,
and
you
know
it's
not
used
as
a
thoroughfare,
except
for
foot
traffic
and
as
a
thoroughfare
for
foot
traffic.
E
It's
pretty
pretty
inadequate,
so
I
I'm
disposed
to
to
favor.
The
improvements
that
are
being
proposed.
I'd
also
note
that
the
this
would
actually
be
an
occasion
when
the
street
was
open
to
actually
do
a
piece
of
preventative
maintenance
on
the
water
and
sewer
system,
which
I
think
is
not
altogether
a
bad
thing.
I
also
believe
that
the
timing
would
suggest
that
this
could
be
a
budget
a
time
for
the
next
fiscal
year,
as
opposed
to
waiting
for
the
trucks
to
fall
into
the
street.
So
you.
J
E
E
First
of
all,
there
are
no
markets
for
streets
so
to
try
to
ascribe
a
value
to
it.
It's
probably
not
a
very
good
idea,
also
a
lot
of
times.
The
value
of
a
particular
piece
of
real
estate
is
different,
depending
on
who
might
be
been
going
to
use
it
right
now.
The
value
to
the
city
of
this
piece
of
property
is
arguable,
because
the
liability
associated
with
the
condition
of
the
street
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
were
we
to
do
this?
E
F
A
A
E
E
C
E
K
E
M
E
M
As
Dale
already
said
last
year,
actually,
our
city
income
tax,
administrator,
Cindy
Smith,
who
is
here
with
me
tonight,
put
together
this
list
of
possible
revisions
to
our
city
income
tax,
ordinance
for
the
purpose
of
increasing
income
tax
revenue,
I
presented
it
to
Mayor,
Abel
and
councilmember
Tam
P,
but
didn't
really
pursue
any
council
action
at
the
time.
However,
in
light
of
the
reduced
tax
revenue
last
year,
I
would
like
to
revisit
these
options
with
you
now.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
go
through
the
list
which
you
all
said.
M
You
have
now
and
add
a
few
of
our
comments,
things
that
Cindy
and
I
have
discussed
and
then
I'll,
let
Cindy
come
up
and
she
might
address
some
additional
handouts
that
she
gave
you
tonight
and
answer
any
more
specific
questions
that
you
have.
If
that's,
okay
and,
of
course,
our
hope
is
to
implement
a
few
of
these
revisions
beginning
next
year,
possibly
to
help
increase
our
tax
revenues.
M
Okay,
number
one:
anyone
under
the
age
of
18
years
old
is
currently
not
subject
to
city
income
tax.
The
city
could
disallow
this
exemption
any
individual,
regardless
of
age
who
earns
income
inside
the
city.
Limits
could
be
subject
to
the
local
tax.
The
exception
to
that
would
be
our
12
day
rule
for
contractors
scientistic.
M
We
aren't
really
in
favor
of
that.
That's
a
pretty
minimal
amount
of
money
to
be
brought
in,
but
it
is
an
option.
Number
2,
the
minimum
collection
or
refund
amount
is
currently
$1.
This
means,
if
$1
or
less,
is
due
with
an
income
tax
return,
no
payment
by
the
taxpayer
is
required.
If
$1
or
less
is
due
a
taxpayer
for
a
refund.
No
payment
by
the
city
is
required.
The
city
could
increase.
This
amount
to
$5
is
what
is
on
here.
M
That
could
also
be
adjusted
somewhere
in-between
for
increased
gradually,
and
we
are
in
favor
of
that
option.
Number
3,
2
years
ago,
the
city
net
operating
loss
carry
forward
was
decreased
from
five
years
to
three
years.
The
city
could
lower
this
even
further
or
not
permit
the
deduction
at
all.
We
would
be
in
favor
of
that
that.
D
A
No,
no
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
explain
what
it
meant,
because
that
was
that
the
one
that
was
for
businesses
and
Gary
van
Meter.
A
M
M
D
G
O
C
O
C
O
D
D
O
A
E
A
O
E
M
Number
four,
where
we
are
okay,
the
city
currently
permits
a
taxpayer
to
offset
business
losses
from
self-employment,
income
and
rental
activity
against
w-2
wages.
Therefore,
lowering
the
city
taxable
income,
the
city-
could
disallow
this
deduction.
These
business
losses
could
be
used
against
future
business
income
as
an
operating
loss,
carry
forward
or
not
be
permitted
at
all.
Most
cities
don't
allow
this
Logan
Nelsonville
Belpre,
Cambridge,
Marysville,
Alliant
Alliance,
do
not
allow
this.
C
O
M
Okay,
number:
five:
the
city
currently
permits
a
credit
for
tax
paid
to
another
municipality
up
to
our
tax
rate
for
an
Athens
resident.
For
example,
if
a
resident
works
in
Nelsonville
and
pays
the
Nelsonville
tax
at
a
1.75
percent
rate,
then
athens
allows
this
resident
a
full
1.6
5%
rate,
which
is
our
rate
credit
against
what
he
or
she
paid
to.
Nelsonville
Athens
receives
no
income
tax
from
this
residents
taxpayer.
The
city
could
lower
the
100%
credit
and
permit
only
a
partial
credit
which
we
probably
would
recommend,
rather
than
just
not
allowing
any
reciprocity.
M
I
think
Lancaster
allows
a
1%
tax
credit
and
the
tax
payer
pays
the
difference.
We
don't
have
any
figures
on
this
one
because
we
don't
have
any
mandatory
filing,
but,
like
I
said
most
cities
don't
allow
that
for
full
credit,
but
that
brings
us
to
number
six
which
that
possibility
would
be
to
make
filing
with
the
city
mandatory.
M
G
M
Some
issues
involved
with
this
most
cities
who
have
this
report,
an
increase
in
revenue,
but
that
would
also
necessitate
increased
manpower
and
we're
not
sure
in
Athens
that
there
are
very
many
people,
not
filing
who
aren't
supposed
to
anyway,
and
there
would
probably
the
issues
picking
up
the
students
who
are
paying
income
tax,
most
of
them
anyway.
They
work
at
öyou.
They
work
at
bars
and
restaurants.
You
all
withhold
income
tax
city
income
tax
for
them,
so
we're
not
sure,
but
you
know
Nelsonville
has
mandatory.
Finally
now
so
it's
just
something
to
consider.
O
O
O
A
A
M
C
M
B
C
M
We
pretty
much
heard
that
too
yeah,
and
so
so
we're
not
so
sure
about
this
one
right,
although
we're
willing
to
implement
you
might
decide,
we
should
do
finally
number
seven
is
a
non-residents
who
did
non-resident,
who
does
not
perform
his
job
inside
the
city
is
permitted
to
file
for
a
refund
with
his
office.
The
city
could
disallow
this
type
of
refund.
M
This
isn't
one
that
I
circled,
that
we
recommend
it's
a
few
council
members
asked
me
about
it
because
it's
probably
shows
the
largest
increase
in
revenue
of
any
of
the
suggestions
that
we
know
about.
As
said,
some
of
these
there's
really
no
way
to
tell,
but
it
would
be
unpopular
with
the
people
who,
who
don't
really
spend
any
time
within
the
city
working
but
because
their
home
office
is
located
here,
they
would
then
have
to
pay
re
I.
B
M
A
O
That
correct
these
individuals
have
to
live
outside
the
city
and
they're
working
as
defined
by
their
jaw,
that's
versus.
If
someone
were
city
but
like
the
county,
their
office,
maybe
in
the
city,
but
their
job,
they're,
not
working
in
the
city
at
all,
and
so,
if
they
don't
let
them
City,
they're,
technically,
not
subject
to
our
tax
and,
in
my
mind,
I'm
entitled
to
this
refund.
M
M
A
O
O
We
want
to
know
what's
going
on
and
people
really
what
frankly
provide
us
with
a
lot
of
information
and
that
yeah,
you
know
like
actually
their
vacation
and
they're
sick
and
their
holiday
is
still
taxable
to
the
city.
But
it's
the
time
that
is
required
by
their
job
to
work
outside
the
city
and
if
they
don't
live
in
the
city,
there
they're
not
there's
no
Nexus
to
athletes
as
far
as
that
part
of
it.
E
M
F
O
A
I
could
see
a
clinician
who
is
working
in
a
hospital
in
Cleveland,
but
that's
not
the
Sheriff's
Department,
where
they
parked
the
doggone
vehicles
downtown
and
they
have
to
drive
in
and
take
them
out.
You
know,
that's,
that's
those
seem
qualitatively
and
quantitatively
different
to
me,
but
I'm,
not
a
text
person
so.
A
E
E
G
M
No,
we
we
get
stacks.
You
know
week
by
week,
month
by
month,
documentation
of
hours
spent
on
the
road
or
the
office
and
Cindy
said
there
are
a
lot
of
other
businesses
and
small
businesses
that
have
to
document
that,
but
I
would
add
that
they,
don't
necessarily
you
know,
drive
it.
Even
the
Sheriff's
Department
drive
their
vehicles
back
into
Athens
every
day,
just
to
check
in
some
people.
C
H
O
H
That's
right,
that's
the
business
apportionments
guess
so,
but
the
it's
those
the
one
two
and
three
are
within
that
section
about
business
apportionment,
but
is
that
kind
of
what
you've
modeled
this
on
for
figuring
out
the
percentages
on
our
individual
like
within
this?
It
is
our
city,
ordinance,
kind
of
modeled
on
that
sentence.
O
That's
the
theory.
Yes,
I
mean,
I
guess
my
point
is
that
you
truly
do
not
live
in
the
city.
You
truly
do
not
work
in
the
city,
then
you
really
are
not
subject
to
the
tax,
but
again
I
emphasize
what
I.
What
I
said
to
mr.
tank
give
us
that
we
very
rarely
give
a
full
refund
I
mean
it's
a
situation
where
there's
really
I
use
employer
error,
because
that
seems
to
be
what
we
see
in.
C
C
K
D
Two
questions,
I
guess
one
is:
what
do
other
cities
do
in
this
circumstance,
but
most
of
them
just
do
provide
the
refund.
Is
that
it
too
is?
Is
there
a
personnel
administration
cost
with
giving
and
refunds?
In
other
words,
if
we
just
take,
if
we
get
rid
of
this,
would
this
be
less
people
involved
or
more
people
involved
in
your
office?.
L
D
L
D
E
And
maybe
this
is
close
to
what
Paul
was
asking
for
and
well.
I
should
also
point
out
that
the
reason
I
appreciate
the
the
effort
that
was
put
into
this,
because
when
this
originally
came
to
me,
we
had
a
discussion
about
these
ideas
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
asked
for
was
to
get
for
the
needle
to
provide
some
estimates
of
what
the
effect
would
be
of
doing
these
things,
and
so
I
understand
that.
That's
not
easy.
Those
are
not
easy
numbers
to
come
by
in
some
situations
and
you're.
O
E
O
G
O
G
M
E
F
B
E
B
O
C
O
G
O
G
E
A
A
G
O
As
you
know,
the
amount
of
refunds
we
give
is
large,
but
that
that
item
I
really
didn't
want
to
touch,
because,
because
of
that,
and
if
anything
like
that
was
ever
looked
at,
I'd
certainly
want
to
look
into
legal
counsel,
because
other
cities
don't
do
that.
It
just
was
something
I
just
wanted
to
stay
away
from
it,
and
that's
why
I
passed
those
out
the
other.
C
O
C
O
E
E
Spoken
like
a
true
office
holder,
okay,
questions,
other
questions
for
them
about
these
or
anything
enemies.
Other
items
thanks.
K
G
O
C
J
O
D
E
O
M
F
F
K
M
E
D
D
Okay,
so
next
one
is
the
transportation
committee.
I've
got
three
items
on
it.
I
just
know
miscellaneous,
but
close
enough.
First,
one
is
ODOT
repair
agreement.
What's
the
paperwork
I
have
on
that?
Is
that
we're
supposed
to
be
entering
an
agreement
for
the
overpass
on
East,
8th
Street,
which
I
thought
wasn't
ours?
It's
ours,
our
stairs
they're.
L
Highway,
what
happens
is
the
highway
that
portion
of
the
highway?
That's
within
the
Municipal
Corporation?
It's
not
an
interstate
or
a
limited
access,
you're
supposed
to
pay
a
percentage
of
the
work.
Since
this
is
a
limit
of
access,
we
pay
0%,
but
they
want
us
to
be
able
to
write
resolution
or
ordinance
to
enter
into
an
agreement
saying
they
work.
L
D
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L
D
Okay,
so
I
guess
the
thing
just
put
this
forward,
since
it's
needs
to
be
done.
House
in
a
committee
feel
about
that
there,
okay
I'll
put
that
ordinance
with
first
reading
next
week.
The
next
one
is
a
street
closing
we
did
this
last
year.
This
is
for
the
alternative
fuel
car
show.
Closing
portion
of
Union
Street
looks
like
the
date
is
October
6th
of
this
year
between
9
a.m.
and
4
p.m.
for
this
high
universities,
energy
awareness
week.
We
did
this
last
year,
I,
remember
I,
don't
think
I
made
it
up
to
it.
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One's
gotten
will
accomplish.
We
have
been
awarded
by
the
higher
Public
Works
Commission
through
reached
our
region.
A
two
hundred
and
three
thousand
dollar
grant
this
year
for
paving
and
we
sidewalk
came
in
areas
around
the
middle
school.
The
only
problem
with
it
is
that
the
way
of
the
high
public
works
worth
does
it
is
they
take
the
divided
allocation
by
region
and
they
add
15
percent
and
that's
what
they
award.
L
They
add
the
fifteen
percent,
because
historically
that's
what
grants
have
come
in
under
because
they
look
at
it
is
not
the
dollar
amount,
but
what's
the
percentage
local
issue
to
money,
so
whatever
everything
that
comes
in
under
bid
then
gets
a
horse
per,
that's
percentage
is
returned
to
the
state,
and
then
they
allocated
out
this
15
percent.
So
as
of
July
1
of
that
203,000,
we
have
a
running
account:
balance
of
sixty
three
thousand
five
hundred
and
sixty
two
dollars
and
we're
number
one
on
the
list
for
the
region.
L
His
the
15%
just
isn't
materializing
this
past
year
possible
because
of
higher
fuel
play
prices,
it's
gone
up,
higher
asphalt,
cost
bids
may
have
gone
up,
etc.
He
can
assure
us
by
July
of
2006,
because
there's
a
whole
new
round
and
no
final
fund,
anything
that
didn't
get
funded
in
the
last
round.
So
we
have
two
options.
That's
why
it's
to
you
option
number
one
is
go
ahead
and
do
the
project
pay,
the
other
140,000
dollars
of
the
203?
L
Don't
pass
back
sometime
in
the
summer
of
2006,
okay.
But
my
problem
right
now
is
we're
getting
awfully
close
to
the
start
of
the
middle
school
yeah
option.
Two
is
we
can
defer
this
to
next
spring,
go
ahead
and
bid.
It
then
award
it
because
we're
still
within
the
grant
period.
We
would
then
upfront,
but
for
a
much
shorter
period
of
time
and
potentially
not
at
all,
because
July
1
they
should
have
the
funds
for
it,
and
even
if
we,
a
contractor
would
start
June
15th
first
bill
would
be
to
us.
L
L
A
I'm
inclined
not
to
advance
the
state
to
140,000
and
have
a
project.
That's
gonna,
I
think
disrupt
the
middle
school
when
we
have
the
alternative,
because
the
reason
we
were
growing
that
way
was
because
we
couldn't
award
any
bids
until
after
July
1
and
that
just
pushes
everything
back.
It
also
gets
us
out
of
sync.
It
also
brings
the
other
thing
and
the
staff
person
that
Public,
Works
and
I
talked
about
this.
L
Rating
put
those
together
go
after
even
a
50/50
grant,
or
so
so
we
get
extra
points
because
we're
going
to
lose
some
because
of
it's
not
near
an
educational
facility
or
we
just
might
not
all
be
collector
roads
etc
and
try
to
get
an
extra
hundred
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
way,
I
mean
if
they
turn
us
down.
Okay,
we'll
know
about
it
in
November,
and
we
can
do
our
planning
accordingly,
so
I
probably
need
if
we
don't
have
one
and
an
ordinance
to.
L
Let
me
apply
for
an
issue
to
grant
now
that,
usually
we
just
run
through
in
September,
but
we
have
to
run
it
through
quick
with
extra
readings.
We
might
start
that
next
week,
if
you
want,
we
already
have
in
place
on
this
one
all
of
the
engineering
about
$45,000.
It
was
approved
by
council
earlier
of
the
year.
That's
all
local
money
anyway
will
count
toward
it.
L
D
L
D
L
C
G
L
D
L
The
October
war,
so
you
have
to
submit
them
in,
are
usually
the
1st
of
October.
They
then
start
to
review
them
by
staff.
Then
it
comes
back
to
a
county
committee.
County
ranks
of
goes
back
into
the
region.
Usually
you'll
know
that
after
your
County
ranking,
where
did
you
stand
within
the
county
and
where
was
everything
you
know
everything
else?
So
usually
you
have
a
good
indication
before
the
end
of
note,
I'm
mid-november,
so
where
you
are
okay,.
D
A
E
We've
received,
we
received
the
draft
of
plan
that
from
the
consultant,
the
timeline
is
roughly
this.
The
the
steering
committee
completed
its
work,
I
believe
towards
the
end
of
the
year
and
then,
subsequent
to
that
there
was
a
member
of
the
member
of
the
steering
committee
that
had
some
editorial
changes
to
add
to
the
draft
sometime
in
May.
Those
were
presented
to
the
consultant
and
then
probably
last
I.
E
Think
last
week
in
the
mail
we
received
the
the
revisions
of
the
draft
I've
asked
the
clerk
to
make
copies
of
those
available
to
the
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
members
of
council
and
I've
asked
the
clerk
to
also
take
the
PDF
files
and
have
the
folks
in
the
government
channel
make
those
available
on
the
web.
So
we
would
have
the
most
up-to-date
copy
of
those
items
available.
We
also
will
have
the
capability.
Not
we
don't
have
it
today,
but
we
will
have
the
capability
to
reproduce
CDs.
E
So
if
someone
wanted
to
have
it
in
a
CD
format
as
opposed
to
the
hardcopy
that
would
be
available
like
so
that's
that's
sort
of
where
that
is
I.
Think
Debbie
sent
an
email
today,
asking
members
of
council
the
medium
that
they
preferred
to
have
to
have
it
in.
There
is
a
copy
in
the
back.
The
consultant
also
created
a
draft
of
a
of
a
brochure
style
handout
that
summarizes
the
steps
that
have
been
taken
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
Up
to
now,
that's
a
that
mock-up
is
also
back
there.
E
I
look
took
a
look
at
I
thought.
It
was
a
pretty
nice
summary
for
those
who
don't
want
to
wade
through
the
200
pages.
At
this
point,
I
guess
it's
important
to
say
that
the
Planning
Commission
now
has
the
document
they've
essentially
had
that
had
control
of
the
document,
essentially
since
the
first
of
the
year,
so
I'm
appreciative
of
the
fact
that
it's
now
going
to
move
along,
my
expectation,
I
think
in
our
collective
expectations
of
the
Planning
Commission,
is
that
they'll
take
a
thoughtful
look
at
at
the
document.
J
C
A
It
looks
very
good:
it's
gonna
be
on
the
web.
If
we
ever
get
to
that
point,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
her
to
send
one
to
Steve
I've
given
one
to
the
mayor
and
then
at
some
future
point
not-too-distant
future.
It's
not
gonna
be
another
year.
We
could
talk
about
this,
maybe
I
should
send
one
too.
Would
you
want
to
send
one
to
Jim
Cody
ten.