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A
Okay,
welcome
to
Athens
City
Council,
it's
about
seven
o'clock
on
September
12th.
This
is
a
meeting
nigel
and
council
will
be
meeting
in
committee
sessions.
We
have
three
committees
that
are
meeting
tonight,
planning
and
development,
which
will
begin
in
just
a
half
a
minute
here:
the
arts
and
Recreation
Committee
and
finance
and
personnel.
It's
been
probably
six
weeks
since
you've
had
committee
meetings.
We
have
quite
a
long
agenda,
so
we're
gonna
try
and
move
it
fairly
rapidly.
A
The
first
item
on
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee
meeting
is
a
report
to
us
from
national
church
residences
developers
for
the
proposed
Retirement
Center
and
Stimson
Avenue.
They
would
like
to
come
to
us
an
update
us
on
what's
been
happening
with
that
project
in
the
almost
two
months
since
we've
spoken
with
them
last.
This
is
not
a
meeting
at
which
we
will
have
intense
discussions
which
might
lead
to
an
ordinance.
We
hope
to
schedule
that
meeting
soon.
This
is
really
just
a
let's
listen
to
the
information.
A
If
council
members
have
pertinent
questions,
please
please
feel
to
answer
them,
but
we're
not
going
to
get
into
a
lot
of
give-and-take
tonight.
I
see
that
coming
in
the
near
future
same
with
audience
members,
if
you
have
something
you
can't
wait.
Certainly
it's
an
open
meeting
but
we'll
have
a
chance
for
a
more
full
discussion
in
2-3
weeks,
okay
in
CRC
go
ahead.
B
Members
of
council
he
was
Jerry
quia
chief
operating
officer
for
national
church
residences,
Health
Care.
Over
the
past
two
years,
we
have
been
working
with
a
wonderful
and
vibrant
group
of
Athens
residents
interested
in
the
provision
of
a
continuing
care
retirement
community
in
this
region.
The
journey
has
involved
discussions
with
Ohio
University
and
several
public
meetings
with
residents
of
Athens
students,
business
owners
and
city
council.
We
NCR
feel
the
process
has
been
thorough
and
beneficial
to
us
as
developers
in
an
effort
to
come
to
a
resolution
that
best
serves
this
community.
B
Since
we
began
this
process,
NCR
has
been
busy
across
the
country
opening
ten
new
facilities
for
affordable
and
middle-income
seniors.
With
an
additional
18
under
development.
We
have
initiated
expansion
of
all
five
of
our
health
care
properties,
including
the
opening
of
two
new
home
health
care
agencies
serving
over
150
people
daily.
The
NCR
board
is
committed
to
quality
growth.
We've
been
busy
on
many
fronts,
as
have
each
of
you.
Despite
our
growth,
the
project
here
in
Athens
remains
a
priority
for
our
organization.
We
believe
the
need
for
it
remains
and
will
remain.
B
We
respect
your
thoroughness
and
stand
ready
to
build
a
project
that
will
serve
the
citizens
in
a
way
that
will
add
value
to
the
community
at
large.
I
wanted
to
take
just
a
minute
to
describe
the
project
as
it
has
been
planned.
The
emphasis
of
the
facility
is
independent,
living
with
the
availability
of
supportive
services.
The
project
would
have
a
total
of
151
units
115
or
76%
as
one
and
two-bedroom
apartments
with
four
cottages,
a
36
unit,
assisted
living
facility
would
be
available
and
be
built.
B
B
It
would
be
our
desire
to
add
a
small
number
of
nursing
home
beds
if
and
when
they
become
available
in
the
future.
We
maintain,
however,
that
a
full
array
of
services
will
be
available
on
the
site.
A
continuum
of
care
will
exist.
No,
we
initially
will
have
no
Medicaid
reimbursement
and
Medicare
coverage
for
services
would
be
through
home
health
care
agency.
B
You've
heard
me
on
more
than
one
occasion
use
the
term
lifestyle
choice.
National
statistics
demonstrate
that
in
a
market
rate
independent
housing
project,
the
majority
of
residents
who
enter
the
community
are
75
years
of
age
and
over
and
generally
over
50
percent
are
single.
We
anticipate
many
couples.
Some
in
their
60s
may
choose
this
accommodation,
but
would
doubt
that
it
would
be
the
majority.
B
Our
emphasis
remains:
aren't
independent
lifestyle
aided
by
facilities
for
exercise,
restaurant
style,
dining
and
a
superb
location,
the
access
to
assisted
living
home
health
and
memory
care,
Alzheimer
services,
our
healthcare
support,
primarily
for
those
who
have
selected
an
apartment
for
their
long-term
residents.
I
have
heard
much
discussion
and
read
a
little
more
in
the
Athens
messenger,
about
University
of
States
I
personally
have
known
the
president
of
healthcare
facilities
out
of
Lima
for
over
20
years.
Jim
unbirth
is
a
good
man
and
is
a
leader
in
the
health
care
field.
B
From
what
I
can
discern
the
project
sounds
exciting
and
should
meet
many
needs
in
the
community
through
upscale
homes
and
a
state-of-the-art
nursing
facility.
We
simply
suggest
that
our
proposed
facility
meets
different
needs
and
I
believe
could
effectively
coexist
with
our
neighbors
at
University
estates.
Most
of
our
previous
discussions
have
centered
around
the
site
and
its
suitability
for
development.
We
respectfully
request
that,
as
we
endeavor
to
answer
the
remaining
concerns
in
this
area,
that
council
consider
a
resolution
allowing
us
to
proceed.
B
We
believe
that
our
proposed
facility
will
be
an
asset
to
the
Athens
community
and
the
citizens
it
serves.
We
thank
you
for
your
continual
consideration
of
its
merits.
Now,
I
would
like
to
ask
Jorge
Berardi
abroad.
He
partners,
architects
and
John.
Renick
II
project
ends
engineer
from
EMH
T
to
describe
the
results
of
soils,
testing
and
flood
modeling
that
had
been
conducted
over
the
last
six
weeks.
First,
we'll
ask
Josh
to
step
forward
good.
C
C
We
were
suggested
at
the
direction
of
the
city
of
Athens
to
use
the
Army
cores
most
recent
modeling
of
the
Hocking
river
and,
through
the
analysis
of
that
model,
we
are
able
to
alter
the
cross
sections
of
the
stream
of
the
river
as
they
cross
through
the
NCR
site,
and
with
that
modeling
we
are
then
able
to
represent
the
proposed
fill.
That
would
be
necessary
to
elevate
the
structures
above
the
100-year
flood
elevation
and
then
from
that
assess
the
impact,
if
any,
on
the
100-year
flood
elevations,
due
to
the
fill
being
placed
in
the
floodplain.
C
C
That
I
will
happily
provide
as
well
for
the
city,
council
and
city
administrative
staff
to
review
through
that
analysis
again,
which
is
summarized
in
the
report
which
includes
mapping
of
the
area,
the
increase
in
100-year
water
surface
elevations
is
0.02
feet,
which
is
approximately
a
quarter
inch
and
that's
the
only
impact
from
this
particular
project
and
that's
really
about
all.
We've
got
from
the
model,
technical
modelling
analysis
and
again
we
have
copies
of
the
report
that
we
can
provide
in
both
hardcopy
and
electronic
format
and
I'll
now
hand
it
over
to
mr.
George
Berardi.
C
Oh,
we
do
also,
as
part
of
the
technical
written
report,
have
mapping
that
was
initially
provided
by
the
US
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
It
is
a
GIS
formatted
map
which
was
prepared
than
by
folks
at
mhin
T
that
actually
got
their
geography
masters
from
Hawaiian
University.
So
when
I
said
I
was
coming
down
here,
they
were
asking
for
me
to
look
for
people
that
they
knew
so
I
could
say
hello
for
them.
D
Members
of
council
I'm
George
Berardi
the
primary
emphasis
of
our
involvement,
since
the
last
time
was
really
to
analyze
the
basic
structure
involved
and
one
of
the
primary
elements
necessary
for
us
was
to
obtain
soils
analysis.
So
we
completed
soils,
investigation
of
the
entire
area
of
the
site
where
we
would
have
our
building
and
it
was
primarily
related
to
the
corners
of
the
buildings
associated
with
areas
close
to
easements,
but
primarily
the
corners
were.
D
There
was
some
concern
previously
with
regard
to
subsurface
impact
of
the
superimposed
loads
that
we're
talking
about
effectively
geotechnical
consultants
of
Columbus
again
completed
a
variety
of
tests,
number
one
soil
borings,
exactly
as
they
were
asked
to
in
the
locations
of
the
building
and
completed
some
additional
soles
analysis,
reviewed
soil
structure,
obviously,
as
part
of
their
a
complete
study
for
us.
Their
conclusion
was
that
we
do
have
some
not
very
good
soils
in
some
areas
of
the
building
pad
and
much
as
I
much
as
I
had
discussed
during
previous
meetings
and
presentations.
D
One
of
the
things
that
they
did
suggest
was,
rather
than
increasing
some
of
our
costs
by
developing
greater
structure.
To
be
able
to
sustain
the
superimposed
loads
is
to
simply
remove
some
of
the
soils
and
replace
them
with
compactable
materials.
So
there
are
a
number
of
methods
that
are
available
to
us
number.
D
One,
as
I
said,
would
be
to
remove
some
of
the
unusable
soils
and
replace
them
with
suitable
fills
same
quantities,
but
usable
fills
that
could
be
compacted
to
levels
that
the
super
imposed
loads
would
be,
or
that
would
be
able
to
support
the
superimposed
loads
or
come
back
in
with
a
variety
of
foundation.
Systems.
I'll
mention
several
large
spread:
footings,
caissons,
pilings.
It
isn't
unusual
on
buildings
of
this
nature
to
have
pilings
effectively.
You
would
have
pilings
at
critical
points
in
the
building
and
then
you
would
span
between
the
pilings.
D
For
example,
if
the
pilings
were
located
at
25
feet
on
center,
you
would
span
between
those
with
what
we
refer
to
as
grade
beams,
which
are
large,
concrete
structures
that
span
between
the
pilings
and
then
we
build
our
building
on
top
of
that.
So
again,
as
I
as
I
indicated
in
previous
meetings,
there
are
means
and
methods
by
which
we
can
develop
suitable
structural
systems
and
system
with
the
soils
or
again,
as
I
said,
a
replace
a
soil
with
that
I
would
leave
it
open
to
questions.
Thank.
A
You
all
for
your
six
synced
presentation
and
responding
to
the
concerns
that
we
last
spoke
about
again,
I'll
remind
you
that
this
is
not
intended
to
be
a
an
in-depth
meeting
that
will
follow
soon.
However,
if
there
are
some
questions
that
we
need
to
ask
now,
council
members
questions
comments
quickly,.
A
C
D
D
With
regard
to
sewer
easements,
there
are
sewer
easements
that
exist
and
we
will
stay
away
from
a
sewer.
Easements
I
think
that
what
we've
provided
as
a
plan,
which
essentially
comes
back
off
the
sewer
easement,
so
our
buildings
come
off
the
sewer,
easements
and
again,
given
a
foundation
system
that
you
know
we
could
apply
to
this
project.
We
wouldn't
have
any
impact
on
the
lines
within
the
sewer.
Easements
I
know
that
there
was
some
discussion
at
some
point
about
developing
easements
over
50
or
60
feet
wide.
That
would
be
most
unusual.
D
I
mean
I'm
used
to
secondary
roads
being
50
and
60
feet
wide
and
right
away,
but
I've
not
seen
an
easement
I
apologize,
that's
60
feet
wide
I,
don't
think
it's
necessary
I.
Think,
though,
the
one
thing
that
needs
to
be
a
concern
it
should
be
addressed
should
be:
will
the
loads
of
any
buildings
that
we
apply
work
in
concert
with
the
location
of
the
utility
within
that
and
effectively.
If
I
have
an
easement,
that's
20
feet
wide
and
I
have
a
sewer,
that's
10
feet.
D
Deep
I
I
would
not
impact
that
sewer
in
any
way
if
I
built
even
right
up
to
the
easement,
especially
if
I
might
apply
the
structural
system
of
the
building.
If
I
applied,
pilings
or
caissons,
where
I
would
take
my
building
loads
below
the
level
of
the
sewer
that
wouldn't
be
an
impact
whatsoever
on
a
sewer,
those
valuations
haven't
been
completed,
but
again
the
sewer
easements
are
of
record,
they
are
of
record
and
they
exist
today,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
within
the
parameters
of
those
sewer.
D
G
D
That's
where
it
came
from
not
for
us,
and
we
agree
in
principle
as
to
what
the
reason
again
I
you
reported.
What
workmen
in
the
field
may
have
said
rather
than
what
structural
engineers
and
I
appreciate
that,
but
all
that,
given
that
reason
that
you
know
we
will
consider
the
structure
and
the
loading
and
where
we
distribute
those
loads,
that's
most
critical.
If
we
distribute
the
loads
effectively
below
the
sewer
line,
that
wouldn't
be
any
impact
of
the
loads
laterally
to
the
sewers
I.
A
H
I
This
is
a
this
is
an
issue
that
I
have
heard
referenced
sort
of
in
the
conversation,
but
I
think
people
are
despite
the
the
quarter-inch
calculation
I
think.
People
are
still
concerned
about
displacement
and
water
displacement
of
water
in
a
flood
event.
So
it
would
be
my
my
suggestion
that
we
take
the
fill
out
of
the
documented
area
of
the
hundred-year.
I
I
D
But
displacement
is
a
function
of
some
projections.
The
projections
were
based
on
some
fairly
at
you
know.
We
talked
about
just
a
moment
ago
about
the
drainage
plan,
and-
and
there
is
some
analysis-
that's
already
been
completed,
which
addresses
you
know
roughly.
Where
would
the
finished
floor?
Elevation
of
this
be
yeah?
We
didn't
do
complete
modeling
to
show
how
the
site
drains.
We
know
that
if
we
have
our
finished
floor,
elevation
at
a
given
level
and
the
site
is
at
an
average
of
what
it
is.
D
We
know
that
it
will
work,
but
a
detailed
grading
and
drainage
plan
will
have
to
be
produced
yeah,
so
the
modeling
was
based
on
the
amount
of
fill
to
raise
the
building
that
two
feet
by
the
way.
Yeah.
We
have
to
be
mindful
that
we
had
agreed
to
take
the
building
rather
than
one
foot
out
of
the
floodplain
two
feet
so
right.
I
I
Well,
I
hope
you're
able
to
do
that
and
I
think
if
we,
if
we
consider
the
the
floodplain
in
a
very
you
know
it's
we've,
it's
been
mapped
relatively
authoritative
lis,
so
we
kind
of
know
where
it
is
and
there
and
it
extends
outside
the
city
I
mean
so
it
I
guess
I'm,
just
talking
about
the
the
net
displacement
and
thinking
of
the
floodplain
in
a
very
sort
of
large
way,
not
just
localized.
That's
all
I
think
I
made
my
point.
Yeah.
A
We
wouldn't
get
into
it
right
now.
Okay,
and
with
that
in
mind,
are
there
audience
members
who
feel
they
need
to
speak
tonight
or
again
we
will
be
having
a
more
open
discussion
soon.
Our
task
from
here
is
to
just
to
discuss
among
ourselves,
not
tonight,
but
in
the
futures
that's
discuss
among
ourselves.
What
issues
are
most
important
in
some
way
come
to
develop
a
proposed
ordinance.
A
That
then,
would
go
through
three
readings
of
more
discussion,
possibly
amendment
amendments
eventually
leading
to
a
vote
on
this
question,
but
I
see
that
as
a
still
quite
a
process
to
go
through,
and
we
will
have
a
much
more
open
discussion
within
a
couple
weeks.
I
think.
Yes,
if
you
have
something
to
say,
please
come
to
the
microphone.
J
I
A
G
E
G
A
E
E
A
G
A
This
has
been
discussed
at
the
Regional
Planning
Commission
and
the
City
Planning
Commission,
and
now
it's
come
to
us
for
discussion
and
approval
through
an
ordinance.
The
person
requesting
this
is
mr.
morritz
and
I'm
gonna
have
him
come
up.
Members
have
received
a
small
packet
and
a
not
very
clear
picture
of
the
site
in
question,
so
we'll
let
mr.
morritz
to
speak
for
a
couple
minutes
and
then
we'll.
K
My
wife
and
I
are
requesting
a
lot
split
over
property,
which
is
located
at
56,
86,
Glen,
Drive
and
Alexander
Township,
and
the
subdivision
of
full
view
heights.
Our
property
is
within
the
three
miles
limit
of
the
city
of
Athens.
Therefore,
that's
why
I'm
here
the
property
is
located
on
the
public
right-of-way
easement
known
as
Glen
Drive.
It
consists
of
seven
and
a
half
acres
in
our
private
residence
over
the
last
15
years,
a
portion
of
our
property
two
and
a
half
acres,
approximately
as
functioned
as
a
second
residence.
K
The
two
and
a
half
acre
portion
has
all
the
utilities
installed,
including
septic
water,
gas
phone
and
electric.
This
section
is
also
addressed
by
the
US
Postal
Service,
as
56
90
Glen
Drive.
Recently,
the
mobile
home
located
there
was
removed.
It
was
my
mother's
residence
for
the
last
15
years
and
at
this
time
it's
our
wish
intent
to
divide
our
property
and
sell
the
primary
residence
with
five
acres
more
and,
if
possible,
build
a
home
on
the
remaining
two
and
a
half
acres.
K
We
have
to
date,
obtained
a
positive
vote
by
the
Athens
County
Planning
Commission,
the
city,
the
Athens
City
Planning
Commission
in
the
Athens
County
Health
Department
in
this
packet
that
I
handed
you.
It
goes
through
those
those
different
public
entities
and
within
the
verbage
of
the
that
documentation.
It
spells
out
the
motion
passed
in
the
the
different
the
different
groups.
K
It's
a
it's
actually
a
public
road,
but
it's
it's
not
a
public
road,
that's
maintained
by
any
government,
the
the
township
or
the
county
or
the
city
of
Athens
doesn't
maintain
this
property.
Therefore,
that's
why
we
needed
the
road
maintenance
agreement
and,
like
I
said
we
have
that
and
lastly,
we
also
needed
the
health
department's
approval
with
the
Health
Department.
K
They
did
approve
the
lot
split
based
on
us
upgrading
one
of
the
septic
systems
and
within
this
packet
I've
got
two
separate
estimates
for
having
that
upgrade
done,
at
which
side
it's
not
done
at
this
time,
I
was
directed
not
to
do
that
by
bob
wykel
and
berg.
Yet
he
said
not
to
go
ahead
and
put
the
money
into
it
until
I
got
a
an
affirmative
vote.
K
So
that's
basically
what
I
have
we
would
like
to
split
our
property
and
sell
our
private
residence.
We
live
in
now
and
build
a
new
home.
The
impact
to
Glen
Drive
would
not
be
any
more
of
an
impact
than
what
we
have
experienced
over
the
last
15
years,
no,
no
increase
in
traffic
on
the
road
and
the
continual
maintenance
and
upkeep
by
the
residents,
which
hasn't
been
a
problem
for
the
entire
time
that
we've
lived
there
and
and
now,
with
the
road
maintenance
agreement.
K
Glen
Glen
Drive
comes
from
right
here.
This
is
full
view
heights,
Road,
okay
down
and
around
this
turn,
and
then
follows
the
property
line
right
up
through
here
and
actually
is
encompassed
by
this
50-foot
easement.
Okay
and
it
joins
back
up.
It
actually
has
access
to
full
view.
Heights
Road
on
both
ends.
Okay,.
K
K
It
was
determined
by
all
of
the
residents
that
they
really
didn't
want
to
go
public
with
the
road
they
they
have
their
reasons,
but
they
would
really
rather
not
go
public
with
the
road
there's.
Some
questions
about
rental
properties
and
different
things
like
that
that
all
of
the
residents
would
just
assume
to
stay
private,
but.
K
K
A
A
K
A
K
There
it's
it's
completed,
there's
three
signatures
on
this
one
and
one:
the
following
sheet
is
a
faxed.
The
property
owner
doesn't
live
here
and
I
had
to
fax
this
to
him
and
he
signed
it
and
fax
it
back
and
at
the
time
that
I
fax,
that
to
him
there
was
already
the
first
signature
on
it.
So
just
the
the
second
signature
is
the
one
that
counts,
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
with
the
maintenance
agreement.
H
A
C
A
K
This
has
been
a
learning
experience
for
me
over
the
past
several
months.
I've
learned
a
lot
about
county
and
city
government
and
it's
very
interesting
so
I
get
I
guess
my
question
now
because
I
just
don't
know
a
lot
about
where
things
go
from
here.
I,
don't
do
this
all
the
time
so
from
from
here
we'll
read
it
at
three
City
Council
meetings,
yes
and
then
it'll
be
voted.
H
K
A
F
A
H
A
G
Procedure
for
subordination
of
leases,
we
have
a
procedure
for
water
taps
and
we
have
requirements
that
are
spelled
out
in
earlier
ordinances
and
a
person
a
woman
named
Karen
balled
on
peach
Ridge
on
a
lot.
That's
between
the
patent
and
the
ball
lot
is
requesting
water
service.
A
bit
of
history
on
this
would
be
that
at
one
point
we
did
serve
that
sunny
Creek
with
water,
so
the
line
goes
on
the
street
in
front
of
the
house.
We
are
not
in
competition
with
sunny
Creek
at
that
point,
I
think
we've
kind
of
divided
the
territory.
G
You
might
think
that
we
should
encourage
them
to
annex
into
the
city.
The
bottom.
The
sewer
is
a
problem
on
the
outside
of
the
road.
It
may
happen
eventually.
So
what
we
ask
is
that
the
administration
take
a
look
and
send
out
the
people
who
have
the
expertise.
G
The
people
in
this
did
the
test
on
the
line
and
they
found
that
it
will
will
not
degrade
the
service
on
the
property
line,
and
so
I
can
say
having
the
recommendation
of
Ray
Haslett
from
August
29th
that
we
would
grant
this
tap
because
there
is
no
other
option
for
these
people
other
than
possibly
a
sister,
and
that's
not
a
reasonable
option
at
this
point,
especially
not
this
year.
So
if
there
are
no
objections,
I
would
like
to
put
up
an
ordinance
for
Karen
ball
for
a
water
tap
on
peach,
Ridge
Nancy.
G
Very
very
similar
to
old
coach
yeah.
We
actually
will
not
expand,
except
if
they
meet
these
characteristics
in
the
administration.
I'm
spoken
with
ray
hazel
speaking
for
them
recommended
this
that
we
approve
this.
Anybody
have
any
problems
with
it:
okay,
there'll
be
an
ordinance
of
next
Monday.
Second
thing
on
my
agenda
is
a
continuation
of
the
city
plan.
After
we
had
our
city
plan
meeting
citizens
continue
to
meet
together,
I
guess
reflecting
the
reality
that
Athens
isn't
certainly
an
unusual
place.
G
We're
not
only
did
we
have
eight
times
as
many
people
off
for
our
meetings,
but
we
also
have
citizens
that
are
interested
enough,
that
they
continue
to
meet.
There's
the
transit
group,
the
bicycle
people,
and
now
we
have
the
open
space
people
so
a
couple
weeks
ago,
maybe
a
week
ago,
I
just
before
school
started,
I'm
met
with
them
and
I
listened
to
what
they
had
to
say
and
now
I'm
going
to.
Let
them
speak
and
talk
about
what
their
concerns
are.
H
M
My
name
is
melt:
Greek
I
live
at
17,
Hanlon,
Avenue
I'm,
part
of
a
group
of
citizens
have
formed
after
the
last
public
meeting
for
the
Africans
comprehensive
plan
back
in
November
of
last
year.
I
believe,
and
we
are
looking
into
ways
that
we
can
help
implement
the
plan,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
open
space,
green
space
and
environmental
protection
for
the
Riverways
and
view
spaces.
M
Things
like
that
we've
been
meeting
and
we're
continuing
to
meet,
and
one
of
the
things
that
happened
was
that
we
came
to
understand
that
recently,
there's
been
some
difficulties
with
the
definition
of
open
space
as
it
presently
exists,
and
we
thought
that
we
would
try
a
crack
at
to
see
if
there
was
any
way
that
we
could
help
with
that.
Well,
you
have
in
this
handout
is
the
cover
page
is
introduction
to
who
we
are
and
the
listing
of
the
pages.
The
first
page
effort
cover
page
explains
what
the
current
code
changes.
M
M
The
the
open
space
question
becomes
quite
technical
in
places
about
permeability
and
how
you
define
permeability,
and
we
have
some
discussion
there.
I
regret
that
we
don't
have
some
information
here,
that
you
can
contact
us
if
you
have
some
further
questions
about
what
we
meant
by
some
of
these
statements,
but
in
that
case
you
could
either
email
me
through
Greek
at
Ohio
to
you
or
contact
Nancy,
Boehner
Paul
while
and
they
can
connect
you
with
us,
we
don't
mean
to
write
code
for
you.
We
simply
want
to
offer
this
for
your
review
to
see.
I
A
G
M
H
H
F
G
F
F
That,
when
I
brought
forth
the
proposal
of
rezoning,
the
floodway
as
open
space,
the
Planning
Commission
did
have
a
rather
extensive
discussion
of
open
space.
Definitions
and
I
have
some
other
documents,
some
memo
that
was
from
Wayne
key
about
some
definitions
and
also
some
stuff
from
Bob
Eichenberg.
When
I
was
initially
talking
about
that
and
I'd
be
happy
to
make
copies
of
this
information
also
to
toss
into
the
hopper.
You
can
just
see
what
the
Planning
Commission
has
already
talked
so.
G
We
think
that's
a
fatal
flaw
so
with
since
we've
already
passed
at
them,
they
would
like
to
have
us.
The
solid
waste
district
will
be
meeting
on
Friday
I
believe
both
some
the
planning
committee,
both
gray
and
I,
will
be
at
the
meeting,
we'll
pass
it
and
send
it
back.
But
we
have
a
timeline
which
will
require
it.
The
up
for
reading
the
revised
plan
with
a
composting
in
it
and
both
the
composting
in
it
and
will
have
to
pass
it
under
suspension
to
meet
the
timeline.
Do.
G
G
G
That's
my
so
if
there
any
issues
on
that,
we'll
try
and
get
it
back
to
you
on
Monday,
so
you
can
have
a
chance
to
read
it
before
speed.
Read
it
before
council,
the.
A
G
It's
it's
really
I.
Think
part
of
the
again
the
flavor
of
the
place.
That
recycling
is
what
it
is
today
because
of
citizens
who
initiated
the
activity
way
before
it
was
invoked,
and
we
I
guess
sustain
it
even
after
it
Ward's
town.
Without
then
it
would
have
been
ed,
Newman
and
Tom
O'grady
and
Bob
Eichenberg
and
donna
goodman
people
are
still
here
doing
the
same
thing
that
they
were
the
ones
who
started
recycling
so
now,
there'd
be
a
new
list
of
characters,
but
there
also
a.
C
G
G
As
by
way
of
just
supplementing,
that
commented
remind
was
reminded
that
both
licking
and
oh,
what's,
the
other
Knox
County,
are
having
that
and
it's
funded
by
the
district,
and
so
just
as
the
district
gave
money
to
Jim's
group
to
do
some,
some
seed,
money
or
solid
waste
district
gave
money
to
do
to
subsidize.
It
was.
L
L
G
Knox
counties
and
so
I
think
that
the
solid
waste
district
might
be
persuaded.
I
mean
at
least
I
hope
to
lead
in
some
measure
participate
in
this,
but.
G
Remember
that
there
you
also
are
collecting
tires,
which
is
certainly
a
need
in
this
area.
Charging
I,
think
class
Greenglass.
H
G
They
do
collect
green
gloves
and
definitely
have
on
your
lawn
yeah
I,
take
mine
up
to
Knox
County
myself,
alright,
so
and
then
my
last
comment
has
to
do
with
and
I'm
gonna
just
sandwich
it
in
and
miscellaneous
before
you
get
your
miscellaneous
Jim.
One
of
my
constituents
who
will
remain
nameless,
said
to
me.
I
would
like
you
to
bring
up
the
idea
of
prohibiting
bans
with
amplifiers
in
residential
areas,
and
so
this
is
somebody
who
has
a
legal
background.
G
The
exact
name
will
be
nameless.
Everybody
had
a
everybody,
had
a
I
mean
I,
guess
I'm,
the
only
one
that
got
the
note
and
yeah.
G
N
G
G
A
E
I
put
any
about
boxes,
resolution
ro,
495
and
no
resolution
was
795.
These
are
assessments
of
Kenney
drive
any
drivers
because
fixed
has
to
say
95
actually
closed
in
97
I
think
was
finally
done.
I
put
that
in
there,
because
I
think
this
is
one
way
to
actually
finance
fixing
Jeff
Hill,
one
of
the
cogent
ad
arguments
I've
been
hearing
all
the
time
is
that
the
university
owns
both
sides
of
it
and
therefore
they
would
be
the
most
to
benefit
from
any
improvement
of
it.
E
So
as
a
another
way
to
think
outside
the
box
rather
than
vacated
and
give
it
to
them
is
to
assess
them
for
any
repairs.
We
have
to
do
to
it.
I
put
this
forward
because
we
could
always
use
the
money,
we
could
fix
it
and
we
don't
have
to
give
it
to
them
this
way
the
process
would
be.
We
do
a
resolution
we
would
have
if
they
can
test
it.
You
have
to
have
an
assessment
board.
E
J
A
G
A
And
then
one
quick,
miscellaneous
I'm
going
to
ask
them
there
to
fill
us
in
I,
got
a
an
email
from
Steve,
Pierce
and
I.
Don't
know
we
all
did
about
uptown
Business,
Association
promotion
with
banners
etc
on
gamedays
for
businesses,
which
now
discovered
conflicts
with
some
of
our
code
issues.
So
there's
been
some
discussion
at
the
administration
level.
I
believe
you
want
to
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
that.
O
For
the
sign
ordinance
sections
of
the
of
the
city
code,
there
are
restrictions
on
placing
banners
and
flags
and
such
outside
of
your
building.
You
can
do
it
in
the
display
window
without
any
problem,
but
placing
it
outside
technically
is
a
violation
of
the
city
code
and
what
the
Uptown
Business
Association
wanted
to
do
was
to
during
the
football
season
have
on
displays
outside
on
it.
There
is
an
exception
in
the
code
that
allows
for
a
special
event.
Type
thing
can
be
administratively
given
for
it.
O
The
Steve's
feeling
was
since
you're
talking
about
not
a
one
time
event
such
as
homecoming,
for
example,
you're
talking
about
as
many
football
Fridays
as
there
is.
He
would
feel
more
comfortable
to
either
have
one
input
from
counsel
as
to
whether
they
felt
that
it
was
appropriate,
or
secondly,
but
actual
change
within
the
code
itself,
which
would
be
more
time
constraints.
From
that
standpoint,
we
did
do
I
granted
to
put
flags
where
normally
we
have
the
American
flag
for
this
last
Thursday
Friday
game.
O
O
But
there
since
there's
a
special
event
exemption,
that's
there
and
it
gives
the
administration
the
right
to
do
that.
I
would
at
least
without
some
degree
of
a
committee
discussion
saying
that
they
could.
They
will
take
this.
You
know,
ask
the
Planning
Commission
to
do
it
or
I
can
take
you
to
the
Planning
Commission,
but
in
the
event
for
this
year
come
do
it.
O
But
technically
many
of
those
are
in
violation
that
you
could
do
it
up
to
a
maximum
of
three
times
a
year.
The
code
rig
reads
about
some
of
these
others.
It
reads
about
four
ninety
day
periods
and
only
once
a
year,
so
there's
a
lot
of
the
sign
ordinance
that
are,
we
really
having
a
problem
over
getting
infringed
on
on
the
little
ways
and
how
much
does
codes
codes
really
asking
and
they're
asking
it
through
me
how
much?
How
rigid
should
I
be
in
the
enforcement
of
this?
O
H
C
O
Nothing
to
stop
the
basketball
coach
from
a
fight.
Remember
to
ask
the
same
question
on
another
season
too,
and
that's
part
of
those.
Where
does
it
go?
I
mean
we
have
had
the
ability
to
have
banners
on
their
poles.
We've
done
the
welcome
to
Athens.
For
years
we
put
those
over
the
Richland,
Avenue
Bridge
and
from
time
to
time,
people
will
ask
for
the
21st
anniversary
of
the
College
of
Medicine.
O
Could
we
put
those
banners
up
before
the
40th
anniversary
of
the
College
of
Fine
Arts
or
for
football
times
or
athletic
events,
and
so
some
of
these
things
sort
of
grow,
because
you
loosen
your
rigid
enforcement,
I
guess
of
things
and
say:
well,
that's
appropriate.
It
makes
common
sense
to
do
that.
It
doesn't
really
harm
anything
and
then
gradually
that
happens.
O
It's
just
like
you
have
an
ordinance
out
there
on
the
books
right
now
about
tables
and
chairs
on
public
sidewalks,
and
it's
supposed
to
be
only
on
Court
Street
and
the
street
has
to
be
so
wide.
But
then,
since
that
time,
we've
put
tree
pits
in
certain
areas,
so
the
street
really
isn't
that
wide,
but
more
and
more
businesses
because
they
see
it
in
a
few
places.
They
won't
put
it
everywhere
for
to
give
them
extra
seating
too,
and
you
get
to
a
point
where,
at
what
point?
Do
you
want
to
say
enough?
O
O
Is
that
I
could
schedule
a
different
committee
meeting
later
on
this
year,
Steve
to
go
through
and
say
these
are
the
things
that
have
crept
in
like
there's
side
boards,
that
people
put
out
advertising
the
special
and
put
it
to
okay
as
it's
in
you're
out
close,
but
the
title
of
a
city
street.
Technically,
that's
a
violation,
so
we
could
have
a
real
nice
discussion
with
the
business
community
and
a
lot
of
others
about
the
about
the
overall
issue
that
Steve
is
raising
and
it's
really
one
of
permissiveness
turn
on.
O
O
Well,
no,
not
really
I,
don't
consider
them
to
be
in
violation,
because
it's
a
bracketed
poll
where
we
can
displace
Urton
things
put
the
question:
do
you
know
you
fall
back
on
other
code?
Things
and
part
of
that
is
like
the
banners
we
do
across
court
Street.
Okay,
there
are
certain
rules
that
are
in
there
with
respect
to
advertising.
O
There's
times
the
times,
because
as
a
corporate
sponsorship
of
an
event
until
it's
up,
we
didn't
even
know
that
that
corporate
logo
was
on
there.
Well.
Is
that
technically,
a
violation
of
it
because
you've
got
the
corporate
logo
and
small,
a
smaller
part
being
displayed
there?
You
could
interpret
it
that
it
would
be.
F
O
L
O
L
G
I
The
other
thing
about
the
banners
across
is
I
think
they
serve
a
public
good
and
sometimes
the
only
way
that
the
entity
gets.
The
banner
is
that
they
accept
the
corporate
the
little
the
little
things
I'm.
Not
thinking,
though
you
know,
if
it's
the
difference
between
communicating
and
information
in
that
way
or
not,
I'd
rather
opt
towards
communicating
it
and
wink
at
the
Pepsi
sign
or
whatever
it
is
anyway.
I
know
if
that
helps,
but
you
undo
that
subsequent
ya.
O
O
Sense
of
there
has
been
a
discussion
with
the
up
to
Business
Administration.
You
know
Business,
Association
and
administration
about
these
issues
and
they're
asking
us
questions
too,
and
we
have
to
technically
say
well.
This
is
the
way
the
law
reads.
There
is
a
special
exception
clause,
but
we
would
feel
comfortable
at
least
having
discussed
that
with
City
Council
for
this
year.
You
know
and
then,
if
we
feel
there's
a
real
problem
and
we
need
something
to
straighten
out,
then
we'll
go
to
Council
and
try
to
do
that.
I.
E
E
O
H
H
G
A
G
Full-Blown
discussion-
maybe
the
second
Tuesday
of
next
week
or
whenever
it
is
so.
We
also
talked
some
about,
and
I've
heard
this
from
some
of
my
friends
who
are
in
business.
They
feel
that
sometimes
and
I'm
not
accepted
in
the
same
spot
as
Paul,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
an
unfair
advantage
in
bantering
that
goes
on
in
our
right-of-way,
when
the
units
in
the
university
are
young,
Richland,
Avenue,.
G
Or
when
they
put
up
a
flashing
sign
for
Ohio
Valley
summer
theater,
or
something
like
that,
as
they
did
a
few
years
ago
and
I
heard
specifically
about
that
one
so
I
think
the
right-of-way
is
the
right-of-way
and
even
if
they
want,
even
if
not
they.
But
even
if
there
is
a
request,
it
probably
should
go
through
the
same
procedures,
because
it's
if
they
put
it
up,
they
would
have
been
put
out
a
business
right
away
and-
and
that
was
a
while
ago.
But
there's
some
other
things
like
that
to
go
on
yeah.
G
A
E
Quick
Paul
were
using
in
terms
of
right
away
use
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
that
the
bicycle
group,
the
spokes
council,
I,
think
there's
official
title
we'd
like
to
see
more
bike,
racks,
uptown
and
and
around
businesses.
They
they
talked
about
how
bad
crocuses
was
there's
behind
the
how
of
the
building,
but
there's
very
limited
amount
of
space
on
the
street
on
Court,
Street
and
they've
been
told
that
they
can't
put
not
that's
enforced
again.
E
E
C
E
G
L
Right
I
will
try
to
be.
L
In
addition
to
that,
rotary
has
asked
if
the
city
would
consider
putting
in
an
additional
five
thousand
and
when
I
look
at
this
cost
estimate
sheet.
A
couple
of
things
come
to
mind
that
there
really
were
add-ons
after
the
fact
somehow
it
ended
up
being
rotaries
responsibility
in
terms
of
the
landscaping
in
sidewalk
lights.
Those
to
me
seem
like
reasonable
requests
from
the
city.
L
L
593
is
the
TIF
fund
and
there's
at
present
time,
one
hundred
and
forty
nine
thousand
in
there
and
so
I
added
these
two
amounts
together
and
I'm,
suggesting
that
council
appropriate
eleven
thousand
five
hundred.
A
L
G
I
H
G
I
Just
finally
I
think,
if,
if
you
want
to
leave
the
TIF
funds
a
while-
and
you
can
do
that,
I
I'd
say
just
take
it
out
of
enhancement
and
split
it
between
tourism
enhancement
call
of
the
day,
I
mean
the
TIF.
We
sort
of
we're
not
gonna
just
leave
that
along
leave
the
TIF
alone,
and
that's
a
modest
enough,
comparatively
a
modest
enough
sum
that
I
think
looking
at
unappropriated
balances,
we
could.
E
L
Already
are
anticipating
more
money?
Actually,
what
Mike
Knoll
said
in
his
letter
to
me
was
that
the
total
increases
that
they
had
were
was
twenty-three
thousand
dollars
in
their
asking.
If
the
city
would
consider
covering
five
of
them
and
they're
covering
the
rest
from
rotary,
including
the
brick
sale.
F
P
F
$15,000
of
those
related
to
the
bricks,
that's
gone
back
out
in
the
expense
of
dealing
with
the
bricks,
I'm
more
inclined
to
say:
why?
Don't
we
just
do
the
fence,
do
it
in-house
out
of
our
out
of
our
budget
and
let
rotary
raise
the
rest
of
the
money
to
do
this
if
they,
if
the
committee
made
design
decisions
that
increase
the
cost
of
the
project
after
it
was
approved.
F
L
I'm,
the
only
thing
that
I
questioned
as
I
said
was
that
how
they
ended
up
being
responsible
for
the
landscaping
in
sidewalk
lighting.
You
know
that
does
not
sound
like
part
of
the
artistic
enhancement
of
fountain,
which
was
the
agreement
to
start
with.
So
that's
why
I
felt
that
the
request
is
somewhat
justified
from
that
standpoint.
C
L
G
H
G
G
Poor
precedent,
a
rather
poor
precedent,
because
I
think
that
I
mean
there
were
all
kinds
of
support
and
and
pressure
for
it,
and
now
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
it's
without
even
our
in
kind.
It's
a
very
expensive
apologist
and
that's
still
not
done
I
guess,
but
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
probably
if
it's
worth
it
but
I
mean
it
just
seems
that
people
make
decisions
and
then
expect
us
to
bail
them
out.
N
L
Our
current
expected
date
after
a
long
list
of
expected
days,
but
the
tiles
now
are
in
the
process
of
having
the
designs
put
on
them.
They
came,
they
weren't
right.
They
were
sent
back
that
came
again.
You
were
finally
approves
now
they've
been
sent
for
the
art
work,
they
are
expected
back
in
October
first
and
they
anticipate
being
able
to
put
them
on
fairly
quickly.
The
hopeful
anticipated
grand
unveiling
is
October
15th.
A
H
A
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
the
fountain,
where
it
is
and
I
think
it's
gonna
be
great,
but
I
also
agree
with
with
Nancy's
concerns
that
you
know
we're.
We've
sold
an
idea
and
that
we
keep
have
coming.
They
come
back
and
say
well
we're
in
the
middle
of
this.
You
have
to
give
us
some
more
money
and
and
talk
about
sign,
creeping
on
on
banner
creep
on
Court
Street
I.
This
is
gonna,
be
a
lot
worse,
so
I
I
do
believe
we're
probably
in
this.
We
need
to
go
forward
with
it,
but
I
guess.
A
We
need
to
be
a
lot
more
careful
this.
This
budget
is
so
far
from
what
we
were
presented
with
that
it's
it's
I
mean
we
couldn't
we
couldn't
operate
a
project
with
this
much
overrun,
ten
percent
sure
wouldn't
come
close.
The
other
thing
is
I
asked
you
to
quite
a
while
ago
and
he
did
respond,
but
could
you
respond
publicly
about
some
I
had
some
concerns
about
a
warrant?
He
hunt
some
of
his
work.
Are
we
how
what
if
it
starts
going
bad,
pretty.
L
A
L
H
E
Q
H
A
L
L
A
F
G
F
N
L
L
Okay,
the
other
issue
that
I
have
concerns
the
nature
works,
grant
which
we
did
get
this
time
for
the
Southside
park.
Bathrooms
and
Kevin
tells
me
that
we
need
a
25
thousand
dollar
match
and
the
actual
grant
will
be
about
twenty
one
thousand,
and
so
we
need
to
appropriate
all
of
that.
So
it's
just
under
fifty
thousand.
There
is
just
fifty
one
thousand
in
the
recreation
budget
at
the
current
time,
but
we
will
be
reimbursed
twenty.
That's.
L
I
L
L
I
We'll
start
financing
personnel
there's
several
items
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you
all
for
constructing
this
agenda.
For
me,
while
I
was
gone,
I
appreciated.
First
item
is
the
quarterly
budget
review
I
think
the
mayor
had
distributed
this
item
last
time
and
I
guess?
The
idea
was
that
if
people
had
questions
or
if
you
had
some
information
to
share
about
about
it,
that
would
annotate
it
somewhat
would
now
be
the
time.
I
O
They
got
less
and
we
had
carryover
balances
that
were
able
to
sustain
that
for
a
while
and
hopes
of
the
fund,
the
general
collection
of
income
tax,
getting
better
and
being
able
to
come
back
to
a
certain
degree
and
I'm
thinking
we're
seeing
that
we
can't
come
back
some,
but
that
will
be
in
the
overall
budget
discussion
that
we
will
have
and
remember
and
most
of
the
expense
items
that
we
budgeted.
If
you
look
at
the
attachments
that
will
go
out
by
fund
and
by
object
code
seem
pretty
well
in
line.
O
We
have
couple
little
areas
that
I'm
gonna
have
to
watch
like
gasoline,
and
we
may
be
back
to
you,
like
late
in
the
year
for
some
supplemental
appropriation
depending
upon
how
the
gasoline
rates
continue
to
go.
But
I
was
not
in
any
particular
concern
about
items
like
work,
47.7%
of
budget
and
the
general
fund
expenditures,
and
our
revenue
is
running
over
look
of
above
where
we
had
anticipated
it
to
be.
The
other
thing
that
I
will
probably
be
asking
for
in
December.
O
G
O
They're
still
running
concurrent
systems,
they
aren't
switching
totally
to
the
new
system
till
October
1.
So
that's
their
I
think.
The
other
change
that
really
is
necessary
in
that
same
area
is
where
we
have
red
tag,
fees
and
reconnect
fees.
All
that
revenue
is
going
into
the
water
fund
and
really
when
you
turn
back
on
the
water
you're,
also
generating
sewer
Billings.
So.
O
Primarily
the
same
people,
because
it's
the
meter
folks
that
are
going
out
there
and
doing
it
and
we
pay
one
through
the
sewer
front
and
one
through
the
water
front
they're
both
doing
we
really
ought
to
split
that
revenue.
It's
not
a
whole
lot
of
money
but
proud
of
me.
Twenty
twenty-five
thousand
dollar
difference
between
the
two
phones,
there's.
G
O
G
Take
a
look
at
it,
but
in
the
future-
and
you
know
if
you
would
like
increase
in
late
penalties
or
red
tags
or
any
of
those,
if
you
think
you
know
before
the
end
of
the
years,
we
should
increase
those
as
well
there's
anything
else
if
we're
gonna
do
because
it's
not
a
very
long
time
since
we've
changed
that
I,
don't
know
about
changing
the
late
fees
that
some
of
those
others.
What's
the
true
cost
of
putting
a
person
out
to
turn
it
on
I,
don't
think
we're
close
to
it
in
our
charges.
I
E
O
You'll
see
that
in
in
the
report
I
just
got
this
I
got
it
about
three
o'clock
this
afternoon,
the
August
report,
and
that
was
the
first
one
that
I
saw
there
was
I
think
of
almost
eleven
to
twelve
percent
increase
in
parking
ticket
revenue
in
that
month,
and
this
was
a
slow
month
because
of
everything
going
out.
So
a
lot
of
starting
to
see
the
back
collections
and
such
because
I
think
for
the
first
time
this
year,
parking
ticket
revenue
is
above
what
it
was
this
time
last
year,
not
buy
a
whole
lot.
O
I
Do
you
see
Rick
in
the
departments?
Do
you
see
kind
of
a
man
trying
to
how
to
say
this
at
this
time
of
the
year,
usually,
you've
got
some
savings,
some
budget
savings
of
some
sort,
because
the
salary
saved
unexpended
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
we're
pretty.
I
O
O
That's
not
to
say
that
if
there's
like
there's
turnover
right
now
in
the
coat
office,
I
did
not
budget
very
much
for
turnover
there,
because
I
thought
we
had
adequate
time
to
get
the
new
people
there,
but
first
one
retired,
August,
31st,
and
so
we've
got
now
twelve
days
of
savings.
Yeah.
Okay,
because
we
don't
have
the
next
person
hired
hired.
Yet
in
right.
O
Well,
what's
happened
since
the
neither
one
are
on
board
yet,
which
was
pretty
well
perfect
to
projection,
but
we've
had
one
disability
retirement,
one
went
into
the
military
and
one
transferred
to
another
police
department,
yeah,
so
I'm
down
three
yeah,
and
so
that
savings
is
going
to
be
in
the
last
half
of
the
year.
But
more
than
likely
that's
going
to
get
made
up
because
of
overtime
culture.
Because
you
have
to
maintain
minimum
staffing
yeah
in.
O
Will
start
Andy
and
off
the
payroll
yet
he's
on
the
leave.
I
think
he
leaves
reports
tomorrow,
or
maybe
it
was
Monday,
and
then
one
of
the
things
you'll
see
in
next
year's
budget
is
that
we
will
budget
for
two
Street
directors
for
a
minimum
of
two
weeks,
because
under
all
of
the
different
agreements
we
he
has
to
be
able
to
payroll
wise,
be
back
on
the
payroll
for
two
weeks,
while
he's
gone
on
military
leave
and
that
means
I
got
to
create
another
position.
G
O
Know
yet
because
his
operation
was
yesterday,
they
put
a
plate
in
news
wrist,
there's
multiple
break
until
he
responds
to
physical
therapy.
As
thing
goes
on,
we
don't
know
how
what
percentage
of
use
of
his
hand
he's
right,
he's
right-handed.
This
is
right
hand
from
a
gripping
standpoint
and
from
other
things,
so
there's
the
potential
there
that
we
will
lose
I
mean
it's
always
a
possibility.
I,
don't
want
to
say
that
that's
true
me.
O
H
O
Other
part
of
that
was
that,
in
you
know,
for
I
think
we
were
still
wrapping
up.
Some
things
was
a
habitat
house.
There
were
some
other
community
agencies,
because
usually
the
tourism
fund
itself
is
really
just
putting
the
dollars
in
now.
If
into
the
you
know
the
automatic
funds
that
get
it,
the
tourism
fund
itself
rhetoricians
from
tourism
bureau,
maybe
a
payment
wasn't
posted,
but
the.
L
O
L
O
L
I
Okay,
any
other
issues
with
this.
Okay.
Thank
you.
It's
okay
with
you
all,
since
Kathy
is
here
to
talk
about
tax
changes.
I
was
gonna.
Ask
her
to
go
next,
so
Kathy
you're
up.
H
Q
All
of
you
got
in
your
box,
a
printout
that
I
put
in
there
just
today.
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
time
to
look
at
it.
The
first
page
is
something
that
you've
already
seen.
We've
already
talked
about
the
changes.
This
is
the
list
that
we
put
out
a
year
ago
in
our
office
and
on
our
previous
discussion.
Q
We
recommended
making
the
changes,
2,
3,
4,
&,
5,
and
so
those
are
the
ones
we
worked
on
and
what
I've
given
to
you
with
Cindy
Smith
help
are
the
actual
changes
that
would
go
into
our
tax
code,
which
is
title.
15
I've
received
an
electronic
copy
from
the
law
directors
office,
and
so
we
have
written
these
up,
and
this
is
how
it
would
be
inserted
into
the
code
to
change
the
code.
Then
it
would
be
putting
in
ordinance.
Q
If
you
are
in
agreement
with
these,
then
I
will
we
will
do
that
and
then
send
it
to
the
law
directors
office
for
final
approval,
and
then,
of
course,
you
will
see
the
ordinance
in
front
of
you.
The
next
thing,
I
guess,
would
be
to
see
if
you
have
any
questions
about
any
of
this,
I
can
go
over
some
of
this
quickly.
We
want
to
change
the
minimum
collection
or
refund
amount
from
$1
to
$5
that
would
cut
down
on
processing
and
refunds.
Q
2
3
&
4
actually
have
to
do
most
cities,
don't
allow
either
one
of
these.
Actually,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
in
line
with
most
the
cities,
Ohio
Revised
Code
and
what
other
municipalities
are
doing
from
the
recommendations
of
our
auditors
would
like
to
see
more
uniformity
and
what
people
are
doing,
and
so
we
would
change.
We
want
to
change
the
years,
and
so
these
aren't.
These
aren't
total
changes
from
our
code.
These
are
adjustments
of
amounts
and
timeframes
really
same
with
four.
Q
We
are
reducing
the
amount
of
activity
that
could
go
on
there,
making
an
adjustment
there,
as
I
said
actually
two
three
and
four
would
all
cut
down
on
processing
and
refunds
for
the
city.
Number
five
would
be
just
that
we're
not
intending
to
wipe
that
out
entirely,
but
we
would
like
to
reduce
the
amount
of
reciprocity
to
one
percent.
Q
Q
I
Are
just
all
y'all
are
thinking
of
your
questions.
These
are.
These
are
a
set
of
things
that
Kathy
and
I
talked
about
back
in
November
of
2004,
and
then
we
revisited
this
issue
before
the
recess
and
kind
of
floated.
These
trial
balloons
there
were
a
set
of
there
were
seven
suggestions
and
in
all,
and
then
when
we
asked
for
the
auditor's
recommendation
of
the
of
which
of
the
seven
seemed
most
reasonable.
These
were
the
four
and
and
since
some
folks
don't
have
this
in
front
of
them.
I
The
first
one
is
two
is
increasing
the
amount
that
has
to
be
there
for
a
refund
or
a
payment
is
$5.
Then
the
net
operating
loss
carried
forward
would
be
decreased
from
five
years
to
three
years,
which
means
you
now
you
can
carry
the
loss
forward,
five,
we're
going
to
say
three
and
that's
a
consistency
issue.
The
second,
the
third
one
of
these
is
a
disallowing,
the
deduction
to
offset
business
losses
from
and
let's
see,
currently
a
permits,
a
taxpayer
to
offset
business
losses
from
self-employment,
income
and
rental
activity
against
w-2
wages.
I
The
city
would
disallow
this
deduction.
These
business
losses
would
be
used
against
business
income,
but
not
personal
income,
so
the
business
is
treated
as
a
business.
Personal
is
treated
as
personal
and
then
the
last
one
is.
The
suggestion
is
that
the
maximum
amount
of
the
credit
if
a
resident
works
in
another
city
would
be
1%
right
now,
it's
what.
A
E
Q
H
Q
Q
Well,
that's
mixed,
like
I
said,
that's
the
way,
I
think
a
lot
of
municipalities
are
going
a
couple.
Issues
with
that
have
to
do
with
the
makeup
of
our
city
are.
This
would
involve
these
are
people
who
work
for
an
agency
but
don't
live
or
work
inside
the
city.
So
if
you
live
in
Albany
and
you
deliver
for
a
pepsi-cola,
but
you
don't
deliver
inside
the
city,
you
you
neither
neither
live
nor
work
here,
just
but
their
offices
in
the
city.
This
involves
some
County
workers,
a
lot
of
county
workers
and.
Q
Businesses
like
that,
and
it's
it's
really
your
call
but
I-
think
it's
pretty
controversial
as
far
as
that
goes
for
people
who
don't
live
here,
don't
spend
any
time
working
in
the
city
just
because
the
office
that
you
know
manages
them.
It
happens
to
be
here
which
they
would
pay.
They
pay
local
taxes
for
anybody
who
does
work
in
on-site
do
with
it
withholding.
But
it's
something
to
think
about.
We
process
quite
a
few
refunds.
G
I
What,
when
Kathy
and
I
discussed
this
earlier
today,
what
we
thought
we'd
do
is
just
sort
of
let
this
let
this
sit
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
since
it
involves
income
tax
and
since
this
is
not
gonna,
have
an
immediate
impact
on
collection
until
we're
not
gonna
have
an
impact
on
collection.
Until
later
we
and
since
we
brought
it
up
in
the
summer,
maybe
people
didn't
have
enough
time
to
really
consider
it.
I
Q
I
do
have
a
couple
other
things,
one
thing
to
add
to
that.
If
we
do
end
up
with
a
tax
ordinance,
if
we
do
or
not,
we
have
some
changes,
wording
changes
we'd
like
to
make
in
our
tax
code,
which
really
just
bring
it
in
line
with
I,
didn't
hand
anything
out
on
that.
But
I
will
I.
Just
didn't
want
to
confuse
things
too
much
tonight,
but
really
these
are
just
changes.
Q
H
Q
I
have
one
other
issue
I'd
like
to
bring
up
tonight:
I
haven't
handed
anything
out
about
it.
I
have
discussed
it
with
a
few
council
members
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
throw
it
out
there
because
we've
been
kicking
it
around
for
a
little
while
Steve
Pearson
from
the
code
office
has
been
helping
me
with
this,
but
it
involves
registration
of
home
occupations
and
contractors
right
now.
Q
Steve
has
really
done
most
of
the
work
on
this
so
far
since
his
office
he's
more
familiar
with
these
ordinances
and
codes
that
are
out
there,
his
office
would
be
the
one
you
know
in
charge
of
registering
people,
but
the
reason
I'm
involved
is
I
think
that
this
would
facilitate
collection
of
income
tax
from
people
who
are
working
in
the
city,
but
not
not
paying
that
aren't.
Obviously
you
know
if
they
work
out
of
their
home,
it
might
still
be
their
main
revenue
they
have.
Q
But
if
that's
okay,
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
information,
give
you
an
idea
of
what
other
cities
I
have
a
whole
stack
of
things
here.
The
state
does
it
other
cities
in
Ohio
and
cities
all
over
the
country
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
go
about
it.
But
I'd
like
to
see
us
implement
that,
if
possible.
Of
course,
there
would
be
fees
involved
that
would
be
paid
to
our.
A
Q
H
Q
G
Q
I
admit
that
the
more
information
I
get
and
you
don't
know
how
that
is
the
more
confusing
it
gets.
There
are
a
lot
of
home
occupations
that
we
could
include
or
not
and
different
ways
of
doing
it
and
I
I
would
recommend
simplifying
it,
but
that
will
really
be
up
to
Gary
and
you
guys
so
I'll
put
together
information
and
then
there's.
I
A
couple
of
other
sort
of
issues,
I,
really
hadn't,
considered
home
occupations,
I,
was
thinking
more
about
contracting
type.
Work.
Where
you,
you
really
think
you
I
mean
you
want
to
sort
of
have
a
minimum
standard
of
protection
for
consumers
and
also
for
the
people
who
work
in
in
that
environment,
like
workers,
compensation
and
bonding
at
a
certain
level
and
and
then
the
tax
and-
and
there
are
the
tax
benefits
so
I'm.
I
Some
sort
of
minimum
floor
if
you're
gonna
do
some,
you
know
particularly
outdoor
businesses,
or
something
like
that
that
there's
some
confidence
that
the
person
isn't
going
to
I,
don't
know
chop
a
tree
down
and
it
falls
on
your
house
and
run
away
and
you're
done
and
there
you
are
on
the
tree
on
your
house.
Thank
you.
Q
H
Q
Some
one
of
Steve's
thoughts
is
the
fact
that,
with
the
computers
so
prevalent
now
a
lot
of
people
are
able
to
work
out
of
their
homes
a
lot
more
easily,
and
you
know
that's
just
one
of
the
areas
that
could
be
covered
in
that,
and
there
are
other
names
for
that
home
on.
You
know
home
occupations,
that's
when
Steve
lights
and
it
covers
quite
a
bit
so
we'll
present
those
both
of
those
that'll.
G
H
G
M
O
H
O
It
was
authorized
reauthorized
really
by
the
voters
two
years
early,
so
that
we
could
do
State
Street
and
in
2001
to
the
first
collection
year,
started
in
2002
and
we'll
go
through
the
tax
year
2011,
which
means
it'll
really
some
of
it.
You
had
collected
in
12
and
maybe
13
so
we're
in
the
fourth
year
of
collection,
and
we
estimate
that
the
new
revenues
coming
in
and
it'll
vary
a
little
bit
because
of
interest.
Earnings
will
be
somewhere
in
the
five
twenty
five
to
five
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollar
range.
O
So
I
wrote
down
527
Wow
balance
as
of
December.
31St
was
eight
hundred
and
ten
thousand
dollars
since
that
time,
I've
made
six
requests
of
council
to
make
commitments
for
that
engineering
of
the
Union
at
six.
Eighty
to
one
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
the
Congress
Union
signal
for
twenty
five,
which
was
a
in
combination
with
our
community
block
development,
grant
funds
issue
to
which
I've
called
middle
school.
City
paving
which
is
High
Street,
Washington
and
Lancaster,
and
some
sidewalk
work.
O
We've
really
used.
Probably
a
hundred
and
seventy
two
of
that
so
the
second
sheet
I
gave
you
was
the
detail
of
this
year's
street
paving
projects
including
Coventry.
Originally,
you
had
approved
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
by
the
end
of
it.
Through
additional
appropriation,
you
were
six
hundred
and
forty
eight
thousand
dollars
of
that
our
normals.
O
What
we
added
outside
of
Coventry
cost
us
three
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
but
Coventry
itself,
even
though
we
switched
over
to
our
own
personnel
in
many
ways
we
had
a
lot
of
contract
services
cost
two
hundred
and
sixty-five
thousand
dollars.
So
we
came
up
to
a
six
hundred
and
twenty
nine
thousand
dollars
totally
spent.
Now
what
happened
was
management
wise
when
we
made
the
original
commitments
of
the
three
end
or
four
hundred
and
six
thousand,
which
was
the
original
contract
with
Shelley
and
Sam's?
O
The
way
the
POS
were
written
streets
was
written
last,
so
they
were
the
ones
that
were
becoming
the
beneficiary
of
forty
four
thousand
dollars
of
additional
capital
money
that
they
hoped
not
to
have
to
spend.
And
then,
when
we
came
to
you
and
I
didn't
cross-check
well
enough
and
we
bought
the
Leifer
and
the
one-ton
diesel,
we
spent
that
money
a
portion
of
it.
So
when
we
come
down
here
and
say,
we
still
need
eighteen
thousand
four
hundred
and
some
dollars.
O
That
means
I
can
take
everything
you
we
budgeted
in
capital
for
the
street
fund,
but
I'm
eighteen
thousand
dollars
short
of
really
having
the
money.
So
I
need
an
additional
twenty
thousand
or
something
to
be
able
to
actually
do
it
and
that's
my
fault,
that's
wasn't
counsels
I
didn't
give
you
the
right
information,
because
we
went
out
of
appropriated
balances
on
those
last
two
purchases
and
we
should
didn't
check
it
close
enough.
O
So
I
tied
both
of
those
together
a
little
bit
also
I,
went
through
then
and
said:
okay,
after
we've
spent
this
six
hundred
ninety
seven
thousand
and
wrote
rehab
Street
rehab
funds
of
our
original
balance.
We
have
about
one
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
left
we're
coming
in
at
about
five
twenty
five
to
five
thirty
and
we
have
further
commitments:
the
middle
or
the
Pomeroy
Road.
O
The
residents
asked
for
some
things,
but
when
the
engineering
work
and
the
final
estimates
got
done,
they
were
1.3
million
dollars
so
yeah
to
do
everything.
The
engineers
to
put
it
in
perfect
shape,
fix
whatever
potential
slip
areas
there
are
and
everything
else
of
I
was
being
asked
in
essence
by
engineers
to
come
up
with
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
I
just
said.
O
We
don't
have
it
so
I'm
still
in
the
process
of
talking
to
ODOT,
to
say,
if
you're
turning
this
over
to
us-
and
this
is
a
legitimate
engineering
thing-
that
your
engineers
agree
with,
to
put
it
into
a
one
condition.
I
think
the
state
shouldn't
increase
its
commitment
to
it.
I've
not
gotten
an
acceptable
answer
to
that
yeah.
O
Let's
put
it
that
way,
but
since
we
got
fifty
thousand
roughly
coming
back,
we
could
put
fifty
more
into
the
project
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
middle
school
paving
when
we
do
that
next
spring
could
take
twenty
five
thousand
up
front,
but
from
us,
but
I
expect
that
to
be
real
first
from
property
owners
on
sidewalks.
Looking
at
the
original
engineering
estimates
that
it
was
approved
by
Oh
dot
once
again
for
the
Union
682
construction
and
if
I
take,
we
pay
20%,
they
pay
80.
O
O
We
have
three
slips
on
sunset:
that
money
we
spent
on
engineering
and
geotech
says
the
estimate
before
final
design
is
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
do
all
three
slopes
which
we
could
pick
off.
One
of
the
time
and
FEMA
has
said
they
would
approve
one
of
the
slip,
repairs
and
they've
already
sent
us
a
check
for
$37,000.
O
So
that's
a
further
drain.
Our
current
issue
to
application,
which
is
repaving
union
street
from
Shaffer
to
Jefferson
Street,
which
would
add
into
what
we
did
last
year
of
Jefferson
to
blue
line,
would
require
a
sixty
thousand
dollar
match
that
was
just
submitted.
Friday.
We
don't
know
if
we
will
get
funded
on
that
and
then,
if
we
do
general
street
paving
again
at
the
same
level,
we
tried
to
do
it
this
year.
O
Two
hundred
thousand,
we
see
commitments
in
2006
of
1.1
million
dollars
which,
if
you
take
the
full
years
of
collection
and
with
our
balance
depth,
we
have
maybe
twenty
twenty-five
thousand
dollars.
It's
real
tight
and
there's
really
timing
issues,
especially
on
a
sunset
slip
and
some
other
things.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
just
good
background
information,
so
that
you
can
understand
what
we've
done
and
what
planning
we
should
be
doing,
where,
if
I'm,
paying
particular
attention
to
use
the
street
rebuild
fund
to
put
a
portion
of
it
into
the
general
repair
of
our
streets.
O
That's
why
I've
been
recommending
two
hundred
thousand
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
then,
where
we
can
get
grant
money,
use
that
funds
to
maximize
the
taxpayers,
dollar
and
income
into
some
of
these
projects.
Just
the
union
engineer,
because
if
you
divide
20
percent
into
one
hundred
and
seventy
thousand,
you
come
up
with
Yahoo-
that's
barely
footing
them
about
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
that
project,
which
would
have
wiped
out
all
the
other
projects.
So
it's
one
that
since
they
have
the
money
available,
they
would
approve.
O
It
became
a
priority
because
it
was
already
that's
why
we
were
asking
them
for
the
beginning,
because
that's
what
a
dangerous
intersection
without
you
know,
Wyden
needed
it
to
three
lanes.
So
that
gives
you
just
as
much
as
I
can
in
black
and
white
for
you
to
cogitate
on
where
the
street
fund
is
what
my
need
is
and
the
street
street
funds
versus
a
street
rehab
fund
for
this
year.
O
H
O
They're
talking
roughly
2.4
to
2.6
million
dollars
if
they
want
20%
from
us,
we're
talking-
maybe
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
again,
that's
why
I
wanted
to
tell
you
the
length
of
the
term,
but
I
mean
this
is
money.
Is
that
the
taxpayers
have
voted
on
to
improve
their
streets?
That
I
don't
mind.
This
is
not
something
I
want
to
accumulate.
A
lot
of.
O
We
I
did
that
for
a
while
in
order
to
get
a
State
Street
done,
because
our
local
share
of
the
estate
Street
was
seven
plus
million
dollars
and
we've
paid
all
of
it
off,
but
two
million.
This
doesn't
reflect
paid
anything
more
off
of
the
two
million
because
the
TIF
as
it
stands
right
now,
and
we
get
to
230,
some
thousand
or
so
paid
from
capital
that
did
the
bike
path
of
the
arc,
the
fountain
and
the
beginning.
H
O
We
just
have
to
work
out
a
fiduciary
schedule
to
do
that.
Decide
whether
or
not
we
want
to
bond
it
or
not,
and
the
other
thing
with
that
is
that
I
can't
get
from
the
county
auditor's
office
exactly
because
they
build
by
continental
properties,
and
so
when
I
ask
well,
did
the
captain
DS
get
in?
Is
it
in
the
space
right
now
or
is
it
getting
that
and
next
year
they
it's
not
easy
for
them
to
look
up.
O
O
H
E
O
O
H
G
O
You
if
we
had
the
money
to
do
them
all
at
once,
and
you
got
one
bidder
and
did
them
all
aged
save
some
degree
of
mobilization
cost.
But
the
big
problem
is
the
middle
slope.
It's
probably
the
most
expensive
and
I'll
be
meeting
more
with
the
engineer
and
them
in
the
coming
weeks
is
to
and
giving
them
some
direction.
So
any
of
your
comments
you
may
have
of
we
should
do
this
in
2006.
I
need
to
know,
but
I
really
got.
O
O
So
I've
got
that
coming
out
and
then
we'd
have
to
look
at
at
what
point
in
time,
because
if
we're
doing
the
general
street
paving-
and
we
will
have
I'm
anticipating
right
now-
a
balance
in
that
fund
of
like
six
hundred
and
ten
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
So
we
know
we
can
spend
all
the
lattice.
Then
how
does
the
next
five
hundred
thousand
come
in
over
the
course
of
the
and
that's
where
we
get
together
from
a
standpoint
of
I,
my
administrator
we're
making
some
recommendations
and
you
making
the
decisions.
E
O
As
well,
well,
no
I've
been
using
it
for
the
general
I
used
all
the
balance
as
of
the
beginning
of
each
state
street
for
the
State
Street
project.
From
that
point
on
I've
been
using
a
hundred
thousand
a
year
with
your
approval
for
the
general
street
rego.
That's
where
I
put
two
hundred
originally
from
here,
one
hundred
from
there
and
one
hundred
and
fifty
from
the
general
street
front
cap.
O
That's
how
I
got
to
the
four
hundred,
fifty
thousand
so
I
would
still
say
we
can
still
do
two
hundred
here
and
do
about
a
hundred
thousand
out
of
that
and
sell
them
out
out
of
the
general
streets.
We
still
should
be
able
to
have
a
three
hundred
or
so
thousand
dollar
project,
and
if
we
were
able
to
do
union
street
by
putting
up
sixty
thousand,
which
is
thirty
percent,
that's
actually
adds
another
I
think
140
thousand
to
it
of
Road
thing.
O
So
we
would
hit
another
year
that
we're
spending
over
$400,000
on
the
streets
and
that's
not
counting
but
we're
gonna.
Do
it
Union
682,
which
is
an
eight
hundred
nine
hundred
thousand
dollar
project,
so
we're
doing
an
awful
lot
of
road
construction
working
the
ability
to
do
that
is
because
of
this
tax
as
a
designated
tax,
because
it's
spending
off
a
reasonable
amount
of
money
and
we're
slowly
getting
all
of
these
problems
that
we've
had
I
mean,
but
we're
knocking
them
off
that
me.
O
You
know
that
we
did
in
Pine,
Street
and
ring
Street
are
not
major
thoroughfares,
but
they
are
ones
that
we
have
been
ignoring
for
a
number
of
years
and
finally
got
to
a
condition,
and
we
had
the
ability
to
do
some
things.
The
work
we
did
on
Columbia
and
Cave
the
Richland
is
it
in
bad
shape.
We've
cut
and
patched
our
way
over
a
multiple
year,
not
worth
to
what
we're
doing
on
the
industry.
We
we
get
a
section
this
year,
we'll
do
a
section
next
year,
etc
and
I.
E
O
O
Item
well,
I
went
ahead
and
had
an
estimate
made,
it
was
made
late,
June,
okay,
so
he'd
have
to
cross-check
it
that
it
was
for
690
feet
of
sidewalk.
That
would
be
five
feet
wide
four
inches
deep
and
she
grabbed
one
or
four
inches
of
gravel,
underneath
that
was
seven
driveways.
That
would
be
six
inches
thick,
okay,
I'm
assuming
the
handicap
from
there
and
then
and
then
receded
mulch
in
the
price.
At
that
time
was
twenty
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
four
dollars.
O
O
H
I
E
I
O
I
saved
twenty
two,
just
there
way
you
guys
about
a
ten
percent
of
whether
that's
your
contention,
so
because
it's
twenty
thousand
144.
So
if
we
do
twenty
two,
even
if
I
have
a
change
order,
come
out
because
we've
run
into
a
lot
of
on
or
something
happens
that
we
did
anticipate.
We
at
least
got
some
money
to
deal
with
it
without
having
to
come
back
to
I
can't
had
if
we
don't
spend
it
that
miss
means
it's
gonna,
be
there
in
the
balance
for
the
next
year.
O
A
L
E
O
Attempt
I
think
in
that,
but
we
have
got
this
to
my
knowledge.
Haven't
had
public
comment,
I
asked
the
street
department
to
look
through
the
file
and
they
did
not
find
anything
today
when
they
looked
through.
What
I
was
looking
for
as
I
remember
getting
the
estimate.
I
didn't
have
a
copy
in
the
New
Year
tonight.
Okay,.
I
G
P
Baum
20
Sunnyside
drive,
as
most
of
you,
are
well
aware,
over
a
period
of
time,
I
have
advocated
sidewalks
in
certain
areas
of
town
which
have
forced
up
to
this
point,
children
to
walk
in
the
streets
to
get
to
schools-
and
this
is
one
of
the
prime
examples
I
when
I
couple
years
ago,
went
around
and
talked
to
neighbors
along
that
Street
and
indicated
that
council,
with
at
the
time,
is
considering
putting
the
sidewalk.
There
was
general
positive
response
now.
P
This
was
over
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
when
I
saw
the
stakes
with
a
little
fluorescent
red
banners
on
top
I
became
particularly
encouraged.
That
council
would
be
moving
ahead
with
this
project,
because
between
Shannon
and
watt,
people
are
forced
to
walk
in
the
streets
they
want
to
get
to
school,
and
there
are
children
who
live
in
that
area,
there's
also
a
dance
studio
which
requires
people
to
walk
in
the
streets
to
get
to
so
I
encourage
you
to
proceed
with
this.
The
original
ordinance
on
this
allocated
30,000
dollars.
P
H
I
I
The
reason
I
table
is
that
I
had
floated
the
try
balloon
of
amending
the
ordinance
to
take
the
additional
fee
that
is
proposed
for
vendors,
who
for
licensed
vendors
on
Halloween
and
charge
it
to
the
bee
vendors
and
not
charge
it
to
the
a
vendors,
and
that
was
my
attempt
to
deal
with
what
I
perceived
to
be
a
kind
of
a
conflict
that
was
going
on
and
my
ration
now
is
this
one
is
and
I'm,
certainly
not
on
the
street
every
day.
But
I
don't
see
the
B
vendors
out
very
much.
I
H
I
G
Is
that
we
have
a
substantial
subsidy
going
on
amongst
the
a
vendors,
whereas
the
B
vendors
are
at
the
mercy
of
whoever
is
parking
there.
So
I
grew
up
forward
a
proposal,
as
you
are
aware
of
there's
somewhere
in
the
vicinity
of
a
$2000
license
fee
and
and
I
use
it
or
lose
it
on
the
B's
with
apart,
Anna
I
asked
the
mayor
about
it
a
couple
a
month
ago,
and
he
said
it's
doable
no.
I
I
G
Well,
no,
but
you
know
I,
don't
think
you
should
ever
go
back
from
collecting
fees.
I
mean
we're
collecting
a
fee.
I
think
we
ought
to
collected,
because
we
are
right
now,
I'm
sure
the
people
who
sell
College
Bookstore
books
that
college
bookstore
would
love
to
have
that
parking
place,
reserved
for
them
for
750
instead
of
two
grand.
So
you
know,
I
mean
let's
just
bite
the
bullet
and
keep
it
the
way
it
is.
I
may
be
outnumbered,
then
I,
don't
mind.
I
will
just
scream
in
horror
exclusively.
L
L
I
H
G
C
I
Issue
is
that
you
can
bracket
what
you're
talking
about
with
between
actual
which,
as
I
looked
at
the
numbers
there's
about
there's
605
meters,
we
collect
about
$650,000
in
revenue
in
tickets,
so
my
my
way
of
thinking
it
sold
over
a
thousand
bucks.
Theoretically,
you
know
if
the
meter
spot
is
filled
every
moment,
including
perhaps
maybe
I,
don't
know
if
you
accounted
for
the
free
time,
but
there
is
some
free.
J
G
G
No
I
mean
there
was
there
was
there,
but
there
was
the
statement
made
in
this
body
before
we
went
to
recess
that
they
are
paying
their
fair
share
and
I
think
that
I
demonstrated
to
you
that
there
were.
It
was
not
being
paid
that
and
to
back
off
on
that
on
that
she,
just
on
the
basis
of
that
assumption,
that
they
pay
so
much
more
than
the
be
is
not
a
fair
assumption.
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
do
when
I
did
my
calculation,
because
the
bees
are
probably
underprivileged
comparatively
because
they
have
to
pay.
H
L
Conversations
with
Steve
Pearson
he
talked
about
that
the
cost
of
bagging.
The
meter
is
five
dollars
a
day
and
the
toner
would
come
out
more
like
1500,
but
if
it
needs
a
much
more
full
discussion
than
what
we're
ready
to
do
before
Halloween,
we
have
a
an
ordinance
that
we
need
to
get
through
for
the
Halloween
event.
G
High
six,
that
it
was
made
a
non
separate
issue
by
coupling
it
together
and
that's
exactly
why
I
did
my
calculations
and
maybe
we
need
to
raise
the
bag
fee
as
well,
because
you're
talking
about
location,
location,
location-
and
we
are
also
talking
about
two
spaces
rather
than
one.
So
we
can
double
it.
Probably,
we
could
probably
fit
six
cars
in
there.
So
why
not
give
the
owners
of
those
businesses
a
chance
to
park
there
instead
of
the
a
then
there's
a
collect,
$1,000
each?
G
We
obviously
don't
do
it
because
it's
athens
and
we
have
this
commitment,
but
the
commitment
shouldn't
be
at
a
serious
cost
differential,
and
you
know
I
could
say
we
haven't
done
anything
since
it's
a
with
this
since
1987
and
sponsored
the
ordinance.
Maybe
he
thought
he
changed
some
things
that
didn't
get
changed,
but
you
know
I
mean
so
it's
not
like
it's
overdue
or
it's
not
over
and
don't,
but
you
guys
brought
it
up
because
I
was
want
to
just
put
it
out
there
about
how
unfair
it
was
well.
I'm,
very
fine.
H
G
I
H
F
To
amend
it
to
say,
time,
place
and
manner,
I
just
want
to.
Let
folks
know
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
you
know,
make
it
clear
that
the
administration
gets
to
lay
out
where
bending
is
going
to
happen,
and
all
of
that,
so
that
the
Wall
Street
plan
works
together.
So
I
would
intend
to
offer
that
amendment.
G
G
E
M
P
P
E
I
G
I
H
I
O
Try
to
remember
all
I
know:
there
was
a
repossession
of
a
motorcycle
with
the
police
department
that
has
now
been
forfeited
and
to
us
I
think
it's
a
Harley
and
probably
worth
$1,000
okay
in
the
purchase
of
the
Arts
West.
They
had
a
organ
there
that
they
did
not
take
with
them,
really
was
says
all
appurtenances
with
Martin
Freeman,
so
I
guess
it's
just
any
property,
but
the
Municipal
Arts
Commission
and
the
committee
that
works
with
artists
of
we
should
dispose
of
it
and
sell
it.
O
That
should
be
worth
over
a
thousand,
because
if
you
look
it
up
one,
the
other
sites,
it's
between
four
or
five
thousand
dollars,
I
think
and
I
believe
there's
another
piece
of
equipment,
a
rolling
stock
that
maybe
over
that,
but
I
sent
all
those
emails
up
to
Debbie
and
or
maybe
one
more
I'll
work.
One
of
there
was,
but
it's
that
type
of
thing
where
it's
over
a
thousand
dollars
it'll
be
the
next
either
public
auction
or
we
go
to
bid
or
than
some
manner
for
these
items
can
recoup
something.
I
G
H
G
O
O
Part
of
the
thing
there
to
me
is
and
I
know,
other
cities
do
this
and
I
know
we
ought
to
release.
Take
a
look
at.
It
is
either
yeah
because
there
isn't.
Oh,
it's
a
whole
different
market
and
everything
I
have
to
learn
a
few
things,
and
our
folks
would.
But
when
you
take
items
such
as
Harley,
motorcycle
or
an
Oregon
I
mean
those
are
so
out
of
the
wall.
O
I
O
Go
into
the
disposal
and
but
the
way
they
are
series
anything
that
we
think
will
have
a
value
over.
A
thousand
has
to
have
council
approval
who
disposal?
Okay,
which
is
going
to
get
tougher,
because
the
auditor
is
talking
about
raising
the
capital
thraw
cor
threshold
of
two
thousand.
So
how
do
we
sell
something
that
wasn't
even
a
capital
purchase.
O
We're
going
on
the
next
one,
yes,
sir
I
know
FEMA
FEMA,
there's
two
things
a
couple
things
here:
just
go
through
the
first
quickly
we
have
dispersed
and
appropriated
monies
that
were
for
payroll
and
overtime
type
aspects
of
what
we've
received
from
famous
so
far
this
year.
We've
done
the
other
ordinance
in
right.
Now
it's
just
transferring
some
items
that
were
for
the
tennis
court,
nothing
not
the
tennis
courts,
but
the
fencing
at
West,
State,
etc.
Now
what
happens?
After
all?
These
happens
because
we
did
the
same
thing
a
year
ago.
O
Is
the
state
once
they're
all
completed
then
comes
in
and
gives
us
12
and
a
half
percent
more,
and
that
happened.
Okay,
I
want
to
say
January
or
February.
We
got
to
check
in
from
the
for
the
state
share
of
projects
done
like
cableway
and
Richland
concrete
backflow,
metal,
lane
draining
system
repair.
We
got
forty-three
hundred
and
twenty-five
dollars,
so
I
got
to
do
another
ordinance
as
I
track
this
one
through
to
get
it
back
out
of
the
FEMA
funds.
So
we
can
use
it
for
other
things
in
ought
to
go
through
all
that
paperwork.
O
Their
description
of
it
isn't
exactly.
What
we
want
to
do
was
to
replace
4,400
feet
of
with
new
line
replaced,
manholes,
etc,
etc.
So
it
looks
like
if
I
want
to
start
the
process
through
with
some
more
engineering,
but
it
looks
like
famous
going
to
reimburse
us,
including
the
state
chair
after
it's
over
about
eight
hundred
and
forty
thousand
of
our
million
dollar
or
so
project
costs
that
we've
seen
on
that.
O
At
until
you
performed
work,
but
at
least
we
do
have,
we
believe,
because
they
asked
us
to
do
for
our
quarterly
reporting
of
it,
and
so
that
looks
good
enough
for
me
to
say
we
need
to
get
back
on
that
list.
I
sent
Nancy
you
owe
a
month
or
more
ago
about
what
needs
to
be
done,
win
and
now
that
we
have
at
least
some
reimbursement
coming
in
at
least
the
way
if
they
come
in
is
at
their
their
estimate
of
cost
we'd
get
reimbursed.
Eighty
six
percent
of
the
cost
so.
G
O
Would
have
have
to
sit
down
with
Nick
Carr
he's
back
from
vacation
and
work
with
this
along
with
EMH
and
T,
presents
what
engineering
associates
and
say?
Okay,
what
do
we
really
want?
Timing
wise
for
the
ordinances
now,
because
I
want
to
try
to
keep
it
within
our
dollar
cost
is
what
please
we
can
a.
G
O
A
lot
of
it
is
because
of
I've
turned
him
down
for
a
couple
years,
because
they've
been
in
the
plant,
but.