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A
Good
evening
welcome
bath
and
city
council
tonight
is
Monday
May
8
2006
this
evening,
City
Council
is
going
to
be
meeting
in
a
series
of
committee
meetings,
beginning
with
communication
committee
services
in
art,
recreation,
environment,
finance
and
personnel
transportation
and
finally,
planning
and
development.
First
communication
committee
chair.
B
So
I
believe
that
several
people
on
council
are
interested
working
on
that
and
so
we'll
be
developing
some
policies
and
procedures
as
we
move
forward.
So
that's
the
pump
that
and
people
who
have
concerns
or
interest
in
finding
more
information
about
the
city
or
find
it
hard
to
find
or
are
interested
in
different
kinds
of
information.
You
know
this
is
an
ongoing
communication
and
people
who
have
concerns
or
interests
that
please
feel
free
to
contact
me.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
Mine
for
miscellaneous
Michael
Jones
from
the
men's
water
polo
team,
we
did
a
beautification
day
couple
weeks
ago,
is
here
to
give
us
a
report,
and
you
should
all
have
the
overview
that
was
put
into
your
boxes
today,
and
you
just
gonna,
give
us
an
overview
of
how
the
project
went.
Great.
Just
give
us
your
name
and
address.
D
My
name
is
Michael
Jones
I
live
at
nineteen
purse,
Hema
Street,
first
of
all,
being
in
a
first
annual
I
thought
it
was
a
huge
success.
We
have
everyone
show
up
again,
except
like
the
nine
volunteers
which
isn't
bad
at
all.
If
you
look
at
the
handout
I
gave
you
the
first
page
discussed
this.
Basically
the
overview
of
the
day,
all
that
stuff
that
was
going
on
how
much
food
was
given
out,
etc.
The
second
page,
which
is
really
interesting
to
look
at,
is
the
project
report.
All
the
all
nine
of
these
projects
were
successful.
D
The
one
that
was
not
so
successful
was
graffiti
in
the
parking
garage
that
stuff
is
pretty
old,
and
so
it
was
kind
of
difficult
to
get
off,
but
the
most
successful
one
befell
was
the
West
elementary
school.
We
we
did
the
entire
area,
it
was
very
pretty
when
I
was
done.
We
applied
75
bags
of
mulch,
and
the
principal
is
still
thanking
me
today.
D
Every
other
area
that
was
pretty
good.
There
was
a
bit
of
a
situation
with
the
HDL
Center
fire
wall
actually
was
three
four
feet
II
that
night,
and
so,
even
though
we
did
try
somebody
when
and
put
up
there
their
logo
or
their
criticism
towards
something,
but
still
we
tried
it
was
in
oil.
The
last
page
is
a
couple
statistics
about
it.
Just
so
you
know.
Oh
wow,
we
used,
we
passed
out
a
thousand
Beautification
a
pamphlets
I'm
going
to
go
down.
D
D
It
might
not
be
enough,
so
we
could
always
share
what
our
budget
was
fairly
large.
As
far
as
sponsors,
we
did
get
a
lot
of
sponsorship.
We
got
17
sponsors,
both
money
and
trade
trading,
meaning
like
the
athens
messenger,
gave
us
free
advertisement
or
like
college
hoops
or
gave
us
free
bottled
water
or
Kroger,
gave
us
a
gift
card.
D
We
had
a
lot
of
expenses,
though,
but
in
the
end
we
still
have
$600
in
the
account
and
we're
going
to
push
that
out
for
next
year
to
make
it
even
maybe
bigger
and
hopefully
better,
we
definitely
set
the
trail.
We
made
the
trail
for
the
next
group
that
takes
us
home
because,
unfortunately,
we
can't
the
men's
water
polo
team
cannot
do
this
next
year.
We're
graduating
5
work
top
people
on
this
project,
we're
also
trying
to
aim
to
get
to
Nationals
next
year,
so
we're
going
to
work
harder
in
the
pool
I.
C
D
Set
up
meetings
with
two
groups
that
might
one
of
them
might
take
it
on
club
sports,
the
whole
entire
Club
suppose
program
might
take
this
on
and
because
we
still
have
a
couple
guys
that
work
on
this
project
they'll
still
be
involved
with
the
planning
for
next
year
to
ensure
to
be
successful.
Also
we're
looking
into
a
Pheo
the
fraternity,
the
service
fraternity
on
campus
and
we've
already
they've
already
said
Yale.
We
might
be
able
to
take
it
on.
C
On
the
first
of
all,
let
me
say
you
know,
congratulations
on
a
successful
project
and
look
forward
to
doing
it
in
upcoming
years.
My
question
is
about
the
package
that
you
guys
put
together.
What
is
great,
you
know,
I
think
I'm.
Huge
part
of
this
was
education.
Where
were
those
distributed?
How
did
you
guys
distribute
those
packets
of
information.
D
Well,
the
sorority
group
was
in
charge
of
that
the
WPA
and
we
distributed
them
to
every
student
off
campus
area.
We
didn't
go
all
the
way
out
to
like
round
shriek,
it's
a
bit
of
a
walk,
but
we
had
everyone
and
we
actually
had
leftovers
and
we
delivered
them
to
the
dormitories
and
some
apartment
complexes
that
we
weren't
able
to
get
to.
That
was
pretty
successful
too,
and
even
though
we
did
have
a
small
shortage,
they
all
worked
just
a
little
bit
longer
to
get
the
rest
of
those
out.
D
A
Know
I,
don't
think
in
the
18
years
or
so
that
I've
hung
out
in
this
room.
I.
Remember
another
example
of
an
organization
familiy
you
coming
up
with
an
idea
like
this
following
through
and
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
doing
such
a
great
job
as
what
you
guys
did
here.
I
think
that's
really
phenomenal
and
I
do
also
want
you
to
know
that
was
the
topic
of
conversation
when
dr.
A
D
I
do
have
practice
tonight,
so
I'll
be
sure
to
tell
all
of
them
they're
a
lot
of
people
outside
of
the
city
of
Athens.
Like
my
parents,
my
parents,
friends,
were
all
wondering
how
this
was
put
together
and
it
wasn't
the
immense
Waterfalls
team
that
it
was
also
the
City
Councilmembers
a
lot
of
community
members
that
put
their
time
out,
such
as
the
clean,
groove
and
neighborhood
associations.
Also,
several
öyou
individuals,
such
as
mark
Vincent
and
president
mcDavid's,
helped
us
here
and
there.
D
E
D
In
the
fall,
a
lot
of
organizations
are
just
starting
with
their
turnover
of
officers
and
I
think
because
it
is
more
pretty
in
spring
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
tour
groups
come
around
in
the
springtime
for
oh,
you
I
think
it'll
be
more
appropriate.
Also,
it
was
six
months
of
planning
and
to
get
it
going
we're
at
the
beginning
year
and
they
have
it
right
away.
That's
a
lot
of
work,
a
lot
of
push
and
shoving
I
think
this
way
it
was
easier.
You
know
it
was
fairly
stressful.
D
It
was
easier
to
be
able
to
take
our
time
week
after
week
have
a
goal
set
for
that
week.
You
know
we
want
this
many
sponsors
or
collect
as
many
tools
or
talk
to
this
many
people
and
it
was
I
think
more
beneficial
because
it's
mom's
weekend-
and
it
was
right-
around
Earth,
Day
and
clean
week
here
in
Athens.
So
it
was
a
nice
nice
touch
for
the
end
of
that.
F
F
Following
that
I
went
to
the
Athens
City
department
heads
and
talked
with
them
about
what
they
felt
was
important.
I
have
spoken
with
mrs.
mcdee
vus,
the
wife
of
the
president
of
o.
U,
because
she
has
been
kind
of
assigned
the
task
of
Halloween
considerations
on
behalf
of
the
university
I
brought
up
the
topic
or
actually
Debbie
brought
up
the
topic
at
our
conversation
with
President
McDavid
us
at
lunch
on
Tuesday
and
have
talked
to
various
community
members
and
leaders.
F
The
summary
that
the
brand
picture
that
I've
gotten
from
that
is
that
many
people
feel
that
it
might
be
a
time
that
we
want
to
add
activities
to.
What's
going
on
in
Athens,
find
non-alcoholic
events
to
make
the
event
the
weekend
safer
and
at
the
same
time,
in
talking
to
the
city
staff
realized
not
only
from
what
they
told
me
at
that
meeting,
but
from
the
reams
of
paper
that
they
go
through
in
terms
of
the
planning.
F
Every
year
has
a
book,
this
thick
of
planning
and
then
results,
and
each
department
had
turned
in
a
report
to
me
concerning
last
year's
event
and
what
their
expense
and
their
personnel
experiences
were.
And
the
conclusion
on
that
is
that
the
city
is
maxed
out.
The
city
cannot
implement
other
activities.
If
there's
going
to
be
other
activities
and
that's
a
strong
possibility
and
as
I
talked
to
mrs.
F
mcdee,
this
more,
there
may
eventually
be
more
on
their
end,
not
necessarily
this
Halloween,
but
some
of
them
may
be
starting
this
Halloween,
but
the
city
cannot
sponsor
those
or
implement
those.
They
also
suggested
that
if
other
groups
are
implementing
activities
that
they
have
them
cleared
through
the
city
administration
and
then,
if
any
kind
of
security
is
going
to
be
required,
that
the
group
that's
sponsoring
the
activity
find
their
own
security.
For
that
particular
group,
the.
F
Department,
heads
in
their
conversation
suggested
that
we
take
another
look
at
the
offense
proposal
from
2001,
and
so
we've
done
that
we've
gotten
it
out
and
and
looked
it
over
and
I
have
talked
to
the
police
department.
Quite
a
bit
about
that.
I've
talked
to
Ron
Lucas,
quite
a
bit.
Obviously
the
prices
would
be
a
bit
different
than
they
were
when
this
was
put
together
five
years
ago.
There
would
be
additional
costs
to
the
city
to
put
up
a
fence.
F
The
department
had
suggested
that
if
we
did
it
that
we
should
go
into
a
several
year
commitment,
because
you
can't
really
get
a
feeling
for
the
results
unless
you
follow
through
and
do
it
for
more
than
one
year.
Staffing
would
certainly
these
didn't
we'd
have
to
face,
and
it
would
have
to
be
greatly
publicized.
So
people
would
be
aware
that
Halloween
this
year
was
going
to
be
different.
F
One
of
the
suggestions
was
to
charge
admission
at
the
security
points
and
that
that
perhaps
would
at
least
raise
enough
money
to
pay
for
the
increased
costs
and
perhaps
begin
to
cut
in
to
the
high
cost
of
entertaining
people
from
all
over
the
state.
And
at
this
point,
I
would
like
to
ask
Tom
Pyle
to
talk
to
us
a
little
bit
about
this.
He
was
one
of
the
people
that
I
talked
to
in
the
police
department.
F
G
I
recall
bringing
it
up
as
a
means
of
control
for
the
police
department.
I
think
we
discussed
that
the
police
department
is
saturated
on
that
particular
weekend.
We
learned
what
long
numerous
hours
and
that
perhaps
fencing
off
the
downtown
area
was
one
idea
of
controlling
the
crowd
that
comes
into
the
area,
because
what
we
typically
see
is
around
11:30
12:30
at
night.
G
Like
I
did
in
2001
that
putting
that
some
kind
of
a
barricade
around
the
the
area
where
the
event
takes
place
would
give
the
police
department
or
some
security
force,
some
type
of
control
as
to
the
people
that
are
coming
into
the
area
and
that
would
perhaps
act
as
a
deterrent
to
people
who
come
into
the
area
already
extremely
intoxicated.
That
would
cause
problems.
So
that
was
the
the
notion
that
I
had
with
the
fence.
You
know
there
are
numerous
issues
that
would
have
to
be
addressed,
but.
I
G
Issues
I
think
are
too
far
out
my
future
to
determine
how
it
would
affect
the
crowd.
What
would
it
do
with
people
that
would
normally
come
downtown
where
they
still
come
to
town
with
the
downtown
area?
Would
there
be
such
certain
types
of
animosity
towards
the
the
fencing
end
of
the
area
and
the
party
that
it's
traditionally
been
for
so
many
years?
So
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
issues
but
from
a
policing
perspective,
I
think
you
definitely
would
gain
some
type
of
control
over
the
individuals.
That
would
be
an
area.
J
I've
Ahlan
teared
on
the
safety
teams
a
couple
times,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
the
crowd
in
the
Uptown
area
is
more
jovial
and
friendly,
and
you
know
that
that
more
of
the
problems
have
occurred
at
some
of
the
neighborhood
parties
that
go
on
after
Uptown
is
pretty
much
shut
down
and
I.
Wonder
if
you
have
an
opinion
about
how
fencing
up
town
might
affect
the
neighborhood
parties
and
issues
that
can
come
up
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
they.
G
They
could
remain
large
all
night,
because
people
are
afraid
to
come
downtown
because
they
have
to
go
through
some
type
of
a
check
point
where
they
could
diminish,
but
there's
people
if
they
have
to
go
through
security
checkpoints
to
come
downtown,
don't
necessarily
want
to
come
to
town,
go
someplace
else
for
the
Halloween.
So.
E
G
Rest
of
it
would
be
just
a
hypothesis
or
our
best.
Yes,
I
would
say,
though,
that
you're
from
Police
Department's
perspective
you're,
absolutely
right.
The
people
in
the
downtown
area,
our
job
you'll,
ride
up
until
a
certain
point
for
us
and
we
typically
see
a
an
hour
worth
things
turn
a
little
darker,
so
to
speak
as
far
as
the
violence
and
whatnot
and
the
fights
and
assaults
we'll
pick
up
in
the
area,
and
it
seems
to
be
that
that
midnight
hour
and
on
is
when
we,
our
business,
picks
up
in
that
regard.
G
I
A
If
you
are
kind
of
idea,
that's
gonna,
take
a
lot
of
community
support
and
I
would
assume
a
different
service
organization.
Manning
each
access
or
organ
is
a
a
lot
of
people
from
whatever,
wherever
we're
going
to
get
them,
I
would
run
be
a
little
bit
afraid
of
it,
going
back
to
being
an
illegal
street
takeover
rush,
the
gate
kind
of
a
thing,
and
then
what
are
you
gonna
do?
If
they
do
at
what
point?
Do
you
throw
them
an
Alan
site?
A
That's
what
it
is,
and
I'd
hate
work
to
go
back
to
that,
because,
as
I
used
to
say
eighteen
years
ago,
when
I
was
trying
to
do
some,
what
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
anything
that
starts
with
an
illegal
street
takeover.
It's
not
going
to
improve
much
during
the
month.
I
mean
that
attitude
you
know
we're
taking
the
street
back
from
here
is
something
that
scares
me
just
a
little
now
if
we
can
come
up
with
enough
sort
of
service
organizations
that
would
be
willing
to
do
this.
A
F
I
I
know
that
the
police
department
wouldn't
take
the
responsibility
lightly,
primarily
police
in
the
streets
department
that
would
have
to
implement
it
and
I
know
that
Ron
Lucas
has
already
been
talking
to
the
pure
channels
from
their
perspective.
What
it
would
involve
my
feelings
come
from
comments
in
the
community
of
when
is
the
city
going
to
do
something
about?
I
F
Own
beloved
Paul
every
single
time.
When
are
we
going
to
do
something
about
the
expense
of
Halloween,
and
this
concept
addresses
those
things
very
strongly?
It
is
the
idea,
for
my
perspective,
is
that
our
students
are
different
than
they
were
five
years
ago,
911,
the
security
that
they
encounter
almost
everywhere.
F
They
go,
and
certainly
to
music
concerts
and
in
many
large
gatherings,
have
similar
procedures
and
I
feel
that
there's
enough
respect
for
security
at
this
point
among
students
that
it
might
not
be
as
large
problem
as
it
as
what
you're
referring
to,
but
it
is
speculative.
Like
Tom
said
you
know,
we
can
second-guess
forever
what
would
happen
if,
but
unless
we
try
something.
C
F
Isn't
in
there
and
I
did
talk
to
Ron
Lucas
about
that
a
little
bit
and
what
they're
talking
about
is
a
six
foot,
high
plastic
fence.
It's
it's
a
little
stronger
than
what
you
would
think
of
as
a
snow
fence,
and
then
it
would
be
secured
by
ballasts.
That
would
pull
it
tight
between
the
sections,
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
drive
Poston
into
the
ground
and
it
would
be
a
less
complicated
installment
and
he
says
that
he
believes
that
there
are
vendors
of
that
type
of
fence
in
this
general
area.
F
C
F
F
B
I
guess
it'll
might
main
concern
about.
Halloween
is
the
cost
of
the
city,
frankly,
mm-hmm
and,
of
course,
the
safety
of
citizens,
but
we're
fencing
it
and
causing
admission
about
charging
admission
with
that.
Basically,
then
pay
for
the
additional
security
for
other
areas
of
the
town,
I,
guess
I'm
interested
in
understand.
D
B
B
B
In
its
present
form,
but
maybe
not
for
extra
security
that
might
be
needed
in
other
areas
of
the
city
if
there
were
more
parties
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
okay,
but
but
there's
because
I
was
I.
Think
if,
if
this
is
just
as
a
proposed
solution
and
I
think
it
has
to
be
kind
of
framed
correctly,
I
agree,
I,
think
fencing
is,
you
know,
in
other
words,
some
way
of
you
know,
making
it
sound
more
attractive,
secure.
K
B
I
F
I
mean
it
is
a
concept
that
theoretically
could
get
the
cost
down
to
a
reasonable
level.
For
this
event,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
is
getting
Halloween
calm
down
more
like
Palmer,
fest
level,
other
weekends.
Those
are
not.
You
know
those
are
a
little
problematic
as
well,
but
from
what
the
department
heads
told
me,
there's
no
comparison
between
the
effort,
the
money
that
we
put
in
for
a
plumber.
E
G
They'll
be
twenty
four
officers,
several
of
those
about
six
or
seven
would
work.
The
community
area
increases
in
certain
always
complaints
and
the
routine
calls
the
rest
around
eighteen
or
nineteen
would
be
posted
downtown
or
in
the
Mill
Street
area
resources
recently
because
of
the
volume
of
parties.
G
So
the
typical
event
will
have
forty,
usually
forty
to
fifty
officers
on
foot
in
the
downtown
area,
where
the
Mill
Street
area
middle
of
honorary
and
six
or
seven
cruisers,
and
then
we
also
get
around
twelve
to
sixteen
mounted
officers
and
they
also
were
close
in
neighborhoods
around
the
downtown
Congress
Parker
Palmer
those
areas.
Usually,
we
have
four
four
to
five
horse
teams
that
patrol
those
areas.
So
you
talking.
G
E
This
is
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
is,
because
is
it
through
this
probably
theoretical
limit
to
how
many
extra
and
outside
town
assistance
you
can
get
before
you
have
one
off?
So
you
know
cetera
I,
understand,
don't
know
I,
guess
the
question
is:
how
much
would
you
you
know?
Extra
security
is
what
we're
hearing
for
a
fenced
in
area,
and
the
question
at
that
point
is
how
much
extra,
how
much
can
you
handle
depends.
G
So
they
basically
use
our
officers
as
escorts
to
get
around
beyond
that.
Now,
if
you
have
assigned
a
security
force
just
to
gate
security,
that's
a
pretty
straightforward
assignment,
and
you
say:
don't
let
anybody
cut
the
Gator
jump
over
and
don't
let
anybody
rush,
the
fence
or
or
the
gate
or
anything
I
don't
know
if
there
is
a
limit,
because
that's
a
you
know,
that's
a
pretty:
they
don't.
E
G
E
Some
of
the
logistical
problems
I
see
off
the
top,
because
I
know
many
of
the
bars
and
mr.
buntz
have
actually
back
entrances.
I
can
see
them
running
our
own
gate
as
well.
I,
like
the
idea
of
having
different
organizations
covering
each
date,
would
work
as
long
as
you
keep
rotating,
so
they
don't.
You.
I
I
C
F
And
and
private
property
issues
need
would
need
to
be
hammered
out
and
the
the
law
director
said
that
he
felt
that
perhaps
it's
an
idea,
that's
finally
reached
its
time,
but
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
needed
to
address
very
carefully
is
that
no
fence
was
put
on
private
property.
They
don't
have
to
be
in
the
right-of-way.
F
F
L
We
started
this
especially
cities
like
to
some
indication
of
where
we're
gonna
go
by
the
time.
Students
believe
was
that
less
than
a
month
away,
and
obviously
a
lot
of
questions
to
be
answered
and
and
research
to
be
accomplished,
I
think
it's
worthwhile
continuing
the
discussion,
but
I
can't
see
that
we're
gonna
have
even
a
firm.
L
F
B
Jim
I
know
I've
mentioned
this
to
you
before,
I
mean
I.
Think
a
key
thing
is
even
thinking
about.
It
is
making
sure
that
that
once
you
get
in
the
gate,
there
are
interesting
things
to
do
or
it's
attractive
and
so
I
mean.
Is
the
clean
and
safe
Halloween
committee
also
kind
of
behind
this
and
looking
at
some
other.
A
B
A
A
D
B
There
I
wasn't
studying
kind
of
a
trend.
You
know
fun
things
to
do
things
that
would
be
attractive
enough.
You
know
to
come
in
and
not
stay
outside
and
parade
around
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
an
issue
and
I
I
know
that
we
had
a
couple
of
students
at
that
session
and
they
didn't
seem
terribly
infos
about
the
idea
of
paying
to
get
in
so
I
guess:
I,
I,
guess!
No,
no
I!
Guess
president
with
Davis
is
behind
this
right
because
I
think
no
not
strongly.
F
B
D
B
C
The
general
statement
as
to
where
to
stand
I
would
say
that
they
are
certainly
in
favor
of
keeping
Halloween,
maybe
at
all
whatever
cost
it
would
take
to
keep
Halloween.
It's
certainly
a
big
big
attraction
for
students.
You
know
each
year
and
of
course,
they're
friends
to
come
in
and
kind
of
just
a
big
festival
for
students
to
attend,
so
I
think
that
they're,
obviously
supportive
and
working
with
the
city
or
with
the
support
of
America
with
the
city,
is
to
keep
the
Halloween
and
to
keep
it
safe.
C
I
mean
I
think
that
there's
a
real
misconception
among
some
of
the
students
here
that
they
don't
want,
you
know
or
they're
not
safe,
and
there
certainly
there's
small
percent
of
those
students
who
are
you
know
who
act
out
and
then
reflect
negatively
on
the
students
in
general.
So
I
think
that
the
students
are
certainly
they
want
to
keep
howlloween
and,
of
course,
want
to
be
as
safe
as
possible.
C
As
no
I
do
you
know,
I
was
in
the
safety
team
that
the
safety
thing
last
year
well,
I
was
really
hoping
that
Halloween
would
promote
as
far
as
getting
involved
or
the
students
get
involved.
With
the
actual
event
would
more
students,
volunteering
on
a
safety
team,
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
do
in
terms
of
reducing
cost.
C
If
we
had
more
volunteers
that
we
would
then
have
to
reduce
the
amount
of
officers
that
we
paid
something
to
work
into,
but
the
students
I
just
don't
want
to
keep
Halloween
and
know
when
it
comes
up
each
year.
It's
the
students
who
want
to
keep
Halloween
so
and
in
stating
that
we'll
do
whatever
it
takes
to
keep
Halloween
charging
a
fee.
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
aren't
a
reasonable
I
think
that
there
would
have
to
be
certain.
C
C
Why
even
throw
off
the
court
street
when
we
could
just
stay
down
on
the
other
streets
and
participate
in
those
activities
that
you
don't
have
to
pay
to
go
to
get
radically
so
I
mean
I,
know
that
I
met
with
students
Senate
some
of
the
Student
Senate
members
this
evening,
as
they're
trying
to
do
on
a
weekly
basis
and
I
love
them.
I
told
him
that
Halloween
was
a
part
of
discussion
and
that
we're
going
to
be
meeting
next
week.
E
Part
of
this
guy
that
had
mcDavid's
lunch
was
that
keep
it
or
kill
it
and
part
of
the
other
discussion
out.
That
is
what
do
we
want
to
be
successful?
When
does
it
get
to
successful?
When
does
it
get
too
big?
When
does
it?
Is
it
just
right?
You
know
conceptually
I
like
the
idea
of
charging,
nothing
for
a
costume
in
something
for
no
costume.
That's
just
me,
because
I
probably
wish
more
costumes,
I
always
think
when
I
wearing
a
costume,
it's
more
fun.
I
do.
E
That's
it
when
does
it,
you
know
at
60,000
is
too
much
60,000
people
20,000
people,
you
know
where
they
all
stay
after
hours.
At
that
point,
it's
it's
the
dorms.
Only
our
one
student,
you
know
guests
heard
we're
doing
that's
another
9,000.
That
means
the
rest
of
them
are
on
the
streets.
My
figure
out
where
they're
gonna
crash-
and
you
know
I,
know,
there's
discussion
if
I
have
another
event
afterwards,
a
late
night
event.
F
Following
another
thing
that
that
might
be
possible,
if
there
are
other
things
going
on,
there
might
be
a
package
deal,
and
we
did
talk
about
that
at
the
conversation
with
Council
and
they
kind
of
the
students
that
were
there
like
that.
That
there
might
be
other
things
that
their
coupon
book
or
whatever
would
allow
the
mentoring
to.
F
The
only
other
comment
I
want
to
make
is,
we
do
have
three
ordinances
specific
to
a
Halloween,
and
so
we
need
to
begin
looking
at
them
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
on
the
first
ordinance
is
banning
parking
and
closing
a
portion
of
court.
Street
and
I
believe
that
that
is
the
one
that
if
we
were
going
to
introduce
fencing
that
we
should
put
it
into
that
ordinance
and
then
we
would
have
to
decide
if
we,
by
ordinance
are
going
to
charge
admission.
I
would
assume
Punk's
who
would
have
to
make
that
decision.
F
So
those
are
the
the
possible
changes
to
the
first
ordinance.
The
second
ordinance
is
the
noise
ordinance
and
Tom.
It
might
be
helpful.
You
suggested
at
that
meeting
that
we
not
put
time
specific
times
on
the
nose,
noise,
ordinance
or
I.
Don't
know
if
it
was
you
or
someone
else,
I'm
attributing
everything
to
you,
but
we
did
talk
about
maybe
taking
out
some
of
the
specific
language
and
instead
referred
to
this
specific
area.
The
fenced-in
area.
G
N
I
N
What
we've
had
you
some
years
has
been
competing
bands
up
on
what
statestreet
on
balconies
and
such
and
say
we're
saying
tone
it
down.
There
say
north
and
says
I
can
play
two
three:
okay.
K
F
Then
the
third
ordinance
is
the
bending
ordinance
and
that
the
only
suggestion
I
had
specifically
from
the
department
heads
on
that
one
was
that
we
started
at
noon
instead
of
two
o'clock
that
they
felt
people
are
gathering
in
town
earlier
than
than
the
two
fact
that
we
now
have
it
and
that
that
would
facilitate
things
to
have
that
bending
start
at
noon.
And
there
was
also
the
possible
suggestion
of
adding
a
bullet
section
for
penalty
for
non-compliance.
H
E
I
M
C
F
G
G
G
F
C
B
B
C
G
Conversation
today
under
the
impression
that
that
one
of
those
champaign-urbana
the
city
they're,
the
University
of
Illinois
kinda,
cuts
across
both
those
cities,
I
was
under
the
impression
that
they
had
a
similar
event
and
did
this
kind
of
thing.
But
that's
not
true.
The
chief
from
Champaign
Artie,
feely
I,
believe
his
name
is,
was
actually
the
chief
of
Carbondale,
where
the
University
of
Southern
Illinois
had
every
year
a
Halloween
event,
but
their
event
was
very
different.
According
to
the
chief
and
I
had
30-minute
conversation
with
him
today,
there
have
been.
G
G
Where
was
that
bar
closing
people
spilled
onto
the
street,
and
it
was
actual
right
where
they
had
to
respond
and
some
response
from
the
police
department
they
never
used.
Spence,
isn't
that
that's
the
only
place
that
I've
heard
of
but
I'd
be
more
willing
to
contact
any
any
period
throughout
the
country
or
something
like
this
taking
place,
but
I
just
gotta
go
yeah.
B
I
was
gonna,
say
yeah
for
this
conversation,
since
Amy
brought
up
more
information,
I
was
wondering
if
the
clean
and
safe
people
or
other
people
who
are
working
on
this
could
kind
of
come
with
some
ideas
about
what
kinds
of
activities
there
but
I
know
people
have
been
working
on
this
for
years.
You
know,
thinking
about
it
could
take
place
it
within
the
within
the
special
area,
and
also-
and
this
is
probably
some
city
code
but
I
mean-
is
it
possible
to
innocence?
B
F
B
F
B
B
B
B
B
A
J
A
A
We
literally
raised
money
privately
from
les
horn.
Well
and
many
others
were
security
around
the
bandstand
and
I.
Guess
that's
the
one
thing
that
scares
me.
The
experience
that
I
had
with
that
experiencing
and
equal
rushing
was.
We
had
gotten
this
anymore,
but
private
security
to
maintain
offensive.
The
band
was
at
the
end,
of
course,
and
they
had
one
of
the
best
nights
ever
known
to
man.
I
A
C
Yeah
I
wanna
show
comics
sorry
I
just
was
looking
over
my
notes
from
the
last
conversation
with
counsel
and
just
in
furthering
the
collection
of
information.
Before
we
discuss
about
discuss
us
again
is
a
Lee,
Jennifer
Simon
and
the
chamber
said
they
were
going
to
do
an
online
survey.
If
you
get
some
business
input
as
well,
so
maybe
we'll
try
and
collect
that
from.
H
There
you
paint
with
the
association
with
commerce,
yes
and
we're
going
to
do
that.
One
thing
that
Nelsonville
does
the
pre
of
the
hills
is
they
do
charge
a
percentage,
but
it's
mostly
all
local
vendors.
Now
there
are
out
of
town
ones
too,
but
that
could
change
your
focus
of
going
to
a
community
event.
If
your
vendors
were
organizations
that
were
raising
funds,
which
we
come
back
in
the
community,
it
might
bring
more
community
people
uptown
and
also
calm.
You
know
the
crowd
down
that
it's
meant
for
the
community.
F
E
H
I
A
K
E
E
E
I,
originally
thinking
per
truck,
bring
us
up
a
finance
personnel,
but
actually
it's
closer
to
city
services,
both
of
us
actually
I,
guess
individually.
We
went
to
the
code
ops
and
said
how
many
people
are
overdue
and
how
much
we're
talking
about
and
we've
got
a
current
list.
I
think
Nancy
gave
me
a
list
that
was
about
a
month
or
two
old
which
about
nine
pages
worth
I.
E
Think
we're
down
to
about
three
pages
worth
about
a
hundred
twenty
two
outstanding
rental
permits,
the
previous
rental
permit
overdue
ones
for
just
a
few
sometime
in
March
and
that
one
actually
had
the
fees
listed.
So
I
can
cross-reference
them
with
the
fees
of
the
present
outstanding
ones
and,
and
it
comes
to
somewhere,
$90
fees.
Of
course,
some
were
multiple
housing.
It
comes
to
a
proximate
total
of
nine
thousand
six
hundred
seventy
five
dollars.
So
these
are
the
outstanding
ones
as
if
this
is
says,
current
has
a
five
five.
E
So
that's
where
we
are
right
now
it
was
Friday.
Yes,
the
discussion
we
had
last
time
as
charging
some
kind
of
late
fee.
For
this,
the
dialogue
got
to
be
a
set
price
or
percentage
to
be
spelt
like
a
percentage.
You
can
do
the
math
of
that
9000
and
change
that
would
come
down
to
about
900,000
if
you
want
to
do
a
higher
percentage,
10%
20%.
This
is
your
choice.
The
section
that
we
brought
you
have
to
modify
is
in
the
housing
regulations.
E
Probably
29,
see
if
I
can
find
it
again,
there's
a
section
in
2903,
which
is
the
rental
dwelling
and
housing
permits
section
20903,
oh
seven,
expiration,
renewals-
and
it
says
at
this
point
every
rental
dwelling
and
housing
rooming
house
permits
W
renewed
annually
on
January
2nd.
What
we'd
have
to
do
is
put
clothes
in
there
for
a
late
fee
would
be
charged
to
this
and.
K
We
were
talking
the
other
time
about
having
the
late
fee
start.
The
1st
of
March
and
I
talked
to
Teresa,
and
she
said
probably
a
fixed
would
be
better
than
a
than
a
percentage
because
of
this
now,
in
order
to
go
from
the
list
that
was
voluminous
down
to
this
smaller
list
of
21,
they
made
policy,
sent
letters
with
each
letter,
cross-fiber
$10,
to
sends
and
we're
we
should
probably
chose
teresa.
E
B
E
K
K
K
E
E
F
K
N
N
K
F
A
K
It's
a
I
think
we
have
to
go
with
the
fee.
She
said
explicitly.
She
didn't
want
a
percentage
and
I.
You
know
I
think
they've
got
enough
to
do.
She
does
the
access
database
and
she's
talented
on
there,
but
there
are
limits
and
I
from
what
she
said
about
how
they
got
through
the
bigger
list
to
this
moment
as
we're
talking
about
basically
an
investment
that
was
probably
roughly
in
time,
maybe
about.
If
you
think
about
the
letters
this
being
five
to
ten
dollars
each
that's
what
everybody
says.
F
I
E
E
K
K
C
In
terms
of
just
deciding
whether
or
not
she
percentage
or
a
flat
fee,
at
what
point
do
we
stop
trying
to
collect
the
spinning
money
in
terms
of
trying
to
collect
the
fee?
The
permit
fee
from
the
property
I
mean
at
what
point
did
we
stop?
You
know
if
that
$20,
to
cover
what
we
send
them
for
two
or
four
letters,
and
then
we
stop
in
the
ghost
look,
I
mean:
how
do
we
recover
those
costs
in
terms
of
charging
a
person.
E
E
E
I
C
E
K
I
think
it's
probably
a
great
idea,
but
let's,
why
don't
we
try
seeing
how
much
action
we
get
from
this
late?
See
you
next
year,
okay
and
then
you
know,
put
it
on
the
1st
of
March
and
then
see
where
the
week
elster
1.
So
that's
those
funds
that
have
not
paid
last
year
and
those
are
in
court
right
now.
I
need.
I
H
K
K
K
D
K
K
B
I
B
O
K
I
B
B
C
D
C
I
B
Says
it
is
due
January
2nd
now
when
I
hear
people
saying
is
well,
maybe
the
letters
go
out
so
I'm
saying
is:
maybe
it
ought
to
be?
If,
if
there
seems
to
be
some
and
I
can
say
that
I
am
confused
about
due
date,
then
maybe
they
I?
Maybe
we
ought
to
look
at
clarifying
that
language
and
saying
the
letters
go
out
with
the
input
in
this
two-week
period
and
as
an
ex
date,
it's
late
and
it's
here
the
face.
K
J
K
K
E
K
E
I
K
N
In
the
engineering
fees
that
we
did
for
the
water
lines
and
the
pump
house
on
columns
rogue
rethinking
allocated
$75,000,
we
did
64
5
of
that
for
the
water
line
and
did
start
started
with
10
5
on
the
pump
house.
You
need
about
ready
to
clear
environmental
on
the
pump
house
and
need
another
$13,500
for
engineering
services.
N
The
ordinances
for
the
water
and
the
sewer
project
on
Columbus,
Road
I
think
without
appropriating
the
funds.
We
should
probably
get
ready
to
bid
those
and
start
that
through
there
at
EPA
for
the
PT
I,
don't
know
what
they're
gonna
be,
but
especially
when
the
sewer
fund,
where
we're
up
fronting
all
this
money
and
getting
75%
back
from
FEMA
I'd
rather
hold
off
on
the
bar
until
I'll,
have
to
sit.
K
N
N
N
The
only
thing
really
different
about
this,
and
it
really
relates
also
to
1999
when
the
EPA
first
detected
it
it
was
the
water
table
was
that
was
at
its
highest,
and
so
that's
why,
with
the
engineering
and
everything
thinks,
if
there
is
anything
or
whatever
is
there's
probably
about
twenty
feet
down,
they've
worked
with
EPA
to
do
some
testing
areas
of
it
will,
of
course,
have
to
continue
the
monetary
and
we
budgeted
for
that.
They
want
sixteen
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
dollars
for
additional
testing
to
try
to
located
any
whatever
a
radiation
for
him.
K
N
N
F
Recreation
will
come
to
order
and
the
first
thing
on,
if
Strong's
run
and
what
I've
tried
to
do
is
I
took
sort
of
a
compilation
of
the
things.
We've
talked
about
the
the
comments
of
a
lot
of
director.
The
comments
of
Bill
Clinton
Oprah
is
here
this
evening
and
I'm,
not
an
ordinance
writer,
but
I
put
it
all
together
to
try
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
it
would
go
together.
Certainly
if
there
are
things
that
you
think
should
be
left
out
that
are
in
or
in
that
around
that
you
want
out.
F
Those
are
the
kinds
of
things
I
want
to
ascertain
to
the
night,
because
I'd
like
to
put
the
ordinances
together
and
the
final
final
of
the
agreement
together,
so
that
the
law
director
can
have
one
more
shot
at
them.
So
what
I
did
first
ordinance
the?
Where
else
is
the
first
ones
the
mission
statement
from
the
task
force?
The
second
one
is
the
vision
statement
from
the
task
force.
The
third
one
just
states
that
stretcher
and
task
force
recommended
that
the
city
takeover
operation
management,
maintenance
of
structure
and
park.
F
The
next
one
is
the
citizens
survey
from
the
fall
of
our
five
charity
of
respondents
favorable
to
the
city
of
taking
over
structure
in
the
park.
The
next
one
begins
the
the
comments
that
came
from
Phil
Contino
in
the
Conservancy
District
Conservancy
whatever,
and
the
first
one
is
that
they
shall
not
permit
commercial
timber,
harvesting
extraction
of
coal
oil
gas
and
it
specifies
only
the
only
thing
that
we
would
have
control
over
is
those
that
are
currently
owned
by
the
state
or
removal
of
plans
for
commercial
purposes
or
personal
use.
F
The
next
one
is
no
cutting
of
trees
will
be
permitted
except
for
park
service
or
parking
Nate,
that's
different
than
timbering.
Next
one
is
the
motorized
vehicles.
We
have
an
ordinance,
it
was
101,
oh
for
I,
don't
know
where
it
is
in
the
code,
but
I
thought
that
language
should
be
in
there
and
then,
finally,
that
the
city
agrees
that
we're
not
going
to
do
any
residential,
commercial
or
industrial
development.
F
And
the
reason
for
that
is
that
they
would
like
to
use
this
agreement
as
models
or
any
subsequent
agreements
that
they
enter
into
in
other
areas.
And
so
they
want
that
language
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
included,
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
necessary,
but
section
two.
The
mirrors
authorized
to
accept
the
49,500
direction,
their
grammo
DNR.
F
F
F
The
rest
gets
a
little
confusing,
but
the
marikar,
the
law
director
suggested
that
we
could
add
the
including
all
associated
mineral
rights,
partly
owned
by
the
states
in
there
to
places
that
could
be
could
either
be
added
as
whereas,
whereas
we
number
eight
in
the
agreement
and
the
only
other
addition
is
the
addition
of
boats
in
number
seven
that
they
already
said
they
were
fine
with
the
additional
floats
I.
Do
not
think
there'll,
be
any
objections.
F
So
that's
the
first
and
the
second
ordinance
just
refers
to
the
agreement.
We
have
the
perfect
Wildlife
Division
of
Wildlife
and
it
just
follows
the
same
form,
it's
much
more
simple.
It
just
authorizes
entering
into
the
agreement
the,
whereas
it
just
says
this-
that
the
city
acknowledges
that
it
continued
use
from
the
position
of
wildlife,
but
right
trash
enforcement.
Fighting
season,
signage
maps,
PR
wildlife
management
and
stocking
of
lake
seem
to
be
missing
a
verb
or
something
there
would
be
required
or
something
along
that
line.
I
F
F
N
I
think
the
only
thing
I
wanted
in
the
dollar
amount
things
there.
Those
reflected
a
budget
that
the
Advisory
Committee
was
working
on.
We
need
to
do
it
probably
back
to
the
budget
that
I
had
last
presented
to
Council,
which
was
not
quite
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I.
Think
we
just
need
to
state
the
city.
Will
you
spend
in
first
year
operations
or
something
like
that?
That
way?
You
know
what
the
budget
is
when
you're
doing
this
it's
in
agreement
and
then
I
would
state.
N
We
say
that
is
an
operating
and
capital
cost
so
that,
if
we
are
successful
in
going
after
a
grant
saying
from
the
division
of
watercraft
to
repair
the
boat
ramp
areas
or
such
there
wouldn't
be
any
question
I,
don't
think
they're
gonna
come
back
and
out
of
this
you
know
a
reality,
but
I
think
they
want
to
see
that
the
city
is
making
some
financial
commitments
and
they
don't
really
care.
If
that's
coming
from
the
university
fees
we
charge
or
whatever
it's
just
that
they
want
money
spent
in
the
park.
N
F
Where
that
would
be
as
the
second,
where
is
from
the
bottom,
on
the
ODN,
our
agreement,
so
the
third
line
down
ending
with
the
fund
and
then
just
say
to
aunt
who
or
what
I
would
prefer
is
headed,
say.
In
addition,
the
city
will
provide
$100,000
for
the
operating
budget,
because
this
implies
that
we're
going
to
use
their
4095
in
the
first
year
and
we
don't
want
to
I,
probably.
N
N
C
C
F
F
F
E
L
B
B
B
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
could
be,
you
know,
maybe
not
phrased
in
such
a
negative
manner
like
we're
gonna
fail
to
do
it
Barton,
you
know,
terminate
this
agreement
after
one
year.
No,
for
any
reason
you
know
other
priorities,
etc.
You
know,
but
not
limited
to,
and
maybe
just
say
the
other
two
things
but
I
just
think
that
one
believes
things
Oh
closing.
B
B
C
C
C
B
J
D
J
F
N
Well,
I
think
I've
been
trying
not
to
do
a
whole
lot
of
concurrent
or
you
know,
ordinances
if
this
passes,
because
if
it
doesn't
pass,
obviously
we
don't
mean
is
ordinances,
but
if
there
really
needs
to
be
probably
to
funds
under
Recreation
setup,
you
got
two.
Seventy
two,
seventy
one
right
now
for
the
community
center
and
overall
recreation.
We
do
a
two.
N
Seventy
three
for
the
operating
expenses
of
Stroud's
went
to
74
for
the
reserve
for
capital,
and
you
know
just
a
reserve
account
for
the
operational
expenses
and
Stroud's,
which
then
council
has
to
authorize
anything
coming
out
of
that.
Obviously,
nothing
is
automatic.
Our
concept
originally
was
that
we
would
try
to
take
out
of
those
phones.
There
was
a
Doug
Franklin
today,
yeah
school
of
thought,
I
guess
was
yeah.
N
N
But
if
it
was
over
this
reserve
once
that
you
establish
the
10%
of
operating
cost
reserve
you'd
automatically
go
into
the
other
fund.
That
becomes
the.
What
we
talk
about
is
the
endowment
is
there's
really
two
endowments
one
is
one
that's
created
with
city
funds
and
that's
a
reserve
that
the
city
would
maintain
through
its
own
financing
mechanisms
and
probably
spend
out
of
for
matching
of
capital
towards
B.
The.
N
Once
this
is
done,
if
we
set
up
a
furnace
for
the
Stroud,
where
I'm
fund
under
as
a
restricted
designated
fund
under
the
Atlas
foundation,
that's
where
the
donations
that
would
come
from
the
public
or
fundraising,
events
that
might
might
occur
would
go
into,
and
so
that
way
everybody
knows
that
it's
in
a
discretionary
fund
managed
by
the
Athens
foundation
that
we
in
essence
as
a
city
leave
alone
other
than
it
gets
big
enough.
We
start
drawing
5%
from
it
for
operating
across
to
offset
thanks.
N
F
N
I
mean
the
question
of
this:
is
everybody's,
going
to
be
looking
at
this
draft
agreement?
I
wouldn't
want
to
spell
it
out
in
agreement.
I
would
just
say
we,
you
know
we
need
a
separate
or,
if
he's
voting
our
exception
sign
that
we
aren't
going
to
do
any
of
this
until
November.
So
we've
got
plenty
of
time
to
set
up
these
different
things
and
an
ordinance
importantly
see
does
this
receipt
for
this?
N
We
direct
the
auditor
to
put
it
such
and
such
place
all
of
those
things,
but
we
really
want
this
as
a
model
in
a
state
want
to
use
it
as
a
model,
and
that
was
our
goal.
Then
a
lot
of
the
real
Pacific
things
are
the
finance
you
know
whatever
we'll
put,
because
it's
going
to
get
copied
all
over
the
place.
J
One
is
in
all
the
budgets
that
you've
presented
to
us
and
that
the
task
force
has
presented
to
us
the
money
from
the
only
departments
and
the
match.
We
know
you
was
listed
as
being
operating
revenue
in
the
current
year
that
it's
received.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
about
that
being
put
into
the
endowment
well.
N
One
of
the
other
things
that
was
Carol
suggested
and
I
know
a
number
of
council
members
of
talk.
You
could
take
something
like
the
tourism
and
Economic
Development
Fund,
which
gets
the
bed
tax
money
we've
committed,
35%
of
that
to
the
Tourism
Bureau,
and
that
was
35
percent
up
to
55
thousand
dollars,
I
think
to
the
chamber.
Well,
I.
Ladies,
a
balance.
Obviously,
and
that's
been
spending
off
a
certain
amount
of
money
has
a
current
balance
of
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
N
We
could
fund
that
through
that
and
not
touch
income
tax
money
at
all
these
first
years.
In
fact,
maybe
ever
if
you
want
to
use
that
other
sources
of
revenue,
Athens
enhancement
was
also
one
that
was
suggested.
We
did
roughly
forty
four
forty
five
thousand
dollars
a
years
to
for
a
rental
payment
to
Trembley
for
nothing.
There's
a
land
use.
At
least
we
have
to
pay
the
property
tax
with
the
property
tax
would
have
been
to
the
school
board.
That's
the
only
real
expense
other
than
every.
N
So
often,
council
has
dipped
into
that
for
a
special
project
of
lighting
or
other
things.
So
there's
a
couple
of
options
to
looking
at
the
general
fund,
because
some
of
the
fear
or
concern
by
people
has
been
oh.
This
will
be
another
drain
on
the
general
fund.
We
could
spell
out
and
say
this
thing
will
be
paid
for
through
you
know,
revenues
from
one
of
those
specific
funds.
N
If
that's
what
councils
wishes,
are
meaning
a
future
council
to
change
that
somewhere
down
the
road
or
expand
upon
it,
but
a
lot
of
magically
puts
a
limit
or
a
cap
on
it,
and
then
maybe
tourism
and
economic
development
is
a
good
one,
because
this
is,
we
should
have
a
good
recreational
facility
for
our
fruits
or
doing
for
tourism
and
economic
development
here
and
it's
paid
for
by
the
net
tax.
If
we
grow
ourselves,
hotels,
there's
more
more
there
would
you
still
consider
other
things
to
do
with
it.
K
Fact
I'd
like
to
see
business
hatch,
so
future
councils
know,
but
we
were
talking
about
when
we
took
this
step,
and
that
would
be
that
we're
talking
about
two
positions
that
are
partial
or
funded
out
of
the
Rec
Department
being
shifted
over
and
a
whole
bunch
of
part-time
activity.
We're
not
talking
about
an
expanded
one
until
we
have
the
funds
to
cover,
in
my
opinion,
of
what
I've
heard
up
till
now,
and
so
we
have
the
funds
right
now
with
the
collections
to
cover
this.
K
F
K
You
know
obviously
I
have
one,
but
I
do
think
that
we
do
need
to
have
something
like
this,
because
we're
not
talking
about
a
very
grand
operation,
we're
talking
about
a
going
from
what
would
be
a
regional
state
park
to
a
city
park,
run
in
large
measure
by
part-time
people.
We
I've
heard
that
we're
going
to
be
reducing
the
number
of
campsites,
and
so
I
mean
I
think
that
there
are
some
changes
that
are
quite
evident.
J
I
N
K
Want
to
set
in
two
years
or
three
years
I
mean
because
we
don't
look
at
the
other.
One
looks
fun
which,
until
we
went
in
it,
worked
it
out.
It
was
all
of
a
sudden
going
to
disappear
and
I
I.
Just
think
that
this
is
pretty
self-evident
affair.
Bones
budget
and
that's
what
we're
promising
I
mean.
I
think
that
to
promise
more
than
that.
N
K
N
K
D
N
F
J
F
They
change
in
the
future
to
become
more
strict
is
what
they
were
saying
to
us.
That's
kind
of
the
way
it
works.
It
does
change
periodically,
but
that's
the
way
the
repairs
work
is
that
they
are
up
to
whatever
the
current
standard
is
at
that
point,
and
the
standards
keep
getting
tougher
and
that's
why
they
say
the
chances
of
them
ever
getting
around
to
us
are
slim
to
none.
So.
F
N
K
E
F
N
I
K
L
First
of
all,
we're
for
their
fourth
number-one
says
in
the
first
year
enter
the
city
or
the
state
can
revoke
the
license
for
no
reason.
But
then
you
come
back
the
number
five
and
it
says
the
city
agrees-
shall
not
transfer
lease
or
assigned
to
anyone
other
than
the
state
in
perpetuity,
so
that
takes
care
of
every
year.
Okay,.
A
N
N
B
A
I
B
F
I
B
H
B
B
Brought
right,
Stacey,
I
think
those
are
completely
different
things
though
number
five
says
you
can't
sell
it
or
get
rid
of
it
to
anyone,
but
the
state,
that's
one
thought
section:
4
is
a
totally
different
body
and
it
says
the
city
has
the
right
to
terminate
the
agreement
after
one
year
and
any
time
thereafter.
Let's
try.
N
To
me,
we
have
an
agreement
with,
whereas
you,
both
the
state
and
the
city,
are
agreeing
to
the
only
thing
we
wanted
where
there's
actual
sections
here
are.
This
is
the
enabling
your
steps
that
we
have
to
take
one
or
authorized
enter
into
the
attached
agreement
for
the
operation
and
maintenance
of
dowel
eggs
for
the
abducts
drive
dollar.
Just
only
the
one
we're
already
agreeing
off
the
damn
thing
in
the
agreement.
We
don't
need
it
there.
It's
just
a
purpose.
N
The
acceptance
of
the
money
is
just
view.
We
want
to
designate
it
two
percent
particular
funda
to
Reseda.
Then
that
would
be
the
place
to
do
it
when
the
transfer
occurs
is
appropriate,
I
mean
only
if
we
want
to
add
something
else
to
its
in
the
base
agreement.
Should
it
be
in
our
own
warehouses,
because
we're
also
agreed
everything
in
the
agreement.
N
F
E
Do
want
to
see
six
and
four
maintained
in
there,
mostly
because
I
thought
we
had
an
expression
about
the
last
clause,
very
just
having
funding
to
support
the
partner
when
talking
about
a
benchmark
in
terms
of
how
much
of
endowment
we
expect
to
see
them
in
year.
I.
Also
wonder
that
we're
talking
about
this
being
operational
systems
with
49,000
I,
don't
think
it
can
go
the
endowment.
It
has
to
go
to
operating
assistance.
K
I
N
He
set
up
the
funds.
The
way
I'm
talking
fall
was
to
anything
balanced
over
certain
with
Roland
to
the
other
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
that
tends
to
purposes
Columbia
role.
It's
just
how
we
do
the
wording
in
the
future,
but
if
they
want
we're
going
to
send
this
with
this
Agreement
back
up
to
this,
that's
the
issue.
Why
we
wanted
to
hash
it
out.
Tonight
was
so
we
get
with
Gary
tomorrow
he
takes
get
it
up
to
the
state.
N
We
could
work
for
a
reading
her
so
with
a
draft
agreement
because
they
had
rarely
will
be
able
to
have.
It
goes
back
and
that's
done
before
I
mean
because
the
legal
people
were
working,
it
was
longer,
they
don't
change
the
intent
and
it's
not
nothing.
Major
I
mean
that's
fun,
but
if
they
come
back
with
something,
that's
really
different,
we'll
have
to
amend
and
go
back
to.
First.
E
Question
I
think:
okay,
we
have
this
one
year
window,
we
stick
to
one
year
window.
We
don't
see
what
we're
the
damage
to
the
park
that
we're
doing
we're
not
doing
a
good
job.
For
whatever
reason
we
decide
to
keep
going
with
it
three
years
down
line
the
parks,
a
mess
we
want
to
give
it
back
to
them.
They
say
yes,
but
it's
gonna
cost
you
give
it
back
to
us.
Is
there
any
type
of
movies
in
terms
of
that
I.
E
N
I
F
N
My
interpretation,
but
we
we
may
want
to
ask
the
law
director
that,
because
what
if
they
say
what,
if
they
put
in
work
well,
if
they
have
it
in
this
agreement-
and
it
says
if
they
agree
to
it-
well,
didn't
say
anything
about
dollars
here.
So
that
should
rule
in
my
mind
that
an
attorney
might
answer
that
different
random.
We
can
ask
because
we
could
ask,
we
could
say.
B
N
B
That
here,
that
was
Paul
said
you
know.
Whatever
happens,
you
know
all
the
city
buildings
fall
down
or
something
they
were
desperate
for
money,
and
we,
you
know,
is
it
possible
two
and
a
half
years
from
now
four
years
from
now,
just
to
say,
Oh
Vienna,
unfortunately,
week
week
we
can't
maintain
this
and
we're
going
to
give
it
back
to
you.
Can
we
give
it
back
after
one
year
is
over?
N
I
N
B
Okay,
well
then,
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
the
answer
to
that
question
and
if
it
is,
there
is
a
window
beyond
12
months
from
takeover
that
we
say
one
year
in
any
time
thereafter,
because
it
sounds
to
me
like
we
haven't
we're,
not
answering
the
question
that
I
have.
So
if
we
need
to
ask
an
attorney,
let's
do
it
and
then
make
it
clear
in
this
particular
section
for
it's
my
request.
F
K
F
B
F
O
Phil
Cantino
34
table
Lane
I
have
three
points
or
questions
on
this.
First
of
all
they're
two
documents
here:
one
is
a
proposed
city
ordinance
and
the
other
is
an
agreement
with
the
state
right.
Do
they
have
the
same
course,
and
my
question
is
really:
if
a
future
City
Council
wanted
to
change
some
plank
and
one
or
the
other?
Is
it
be
really
easy
to
change?
Well,.
O
Think
it's
really
important
see.
I
was
very
glad
to
see
these
protections
in
here,
so
the
forests
and
all
the
various
things
that
we
have
the
Conservancy
proposed.
But
we
had
the
idea
that
these
would
go
into
the
transfer
and
you
know
I,
think
of
some
economic
emergency
to
some
future
city
council
faces
and
they
decide
that
maybe
they
should
cut
part
of
the
forest
there.
Whether
the
City
Council
can
simply
pass
over
ordinance
repealing
that
portion.
F
I
N
Statutory
City
has
to
follow.
The
laws
is
established
by
the
state
of
Ohio
on
it
that
says,
camp
future
council
can
reverse
the
action
of
another
which
it
pretty
well
does.
The
only
way
you
can
do
change.
That
is
your
app
to
have
a
charter
City
and
then
the
vote
of
the
people
is
the
only
way
you
can
change
the
car
charter
possess,
what
you
put
in
it.
Otherwise
you're
dealing
with
state
legislators
will
establish
what
our
rules
are
a
rule.
N
E
I
H
L
O
D
E
F
I
B
N
Like
the
state
has
a
constitution,
there's
only
awaited
to
change
the
city
without
a
charter,
in
essence,
is
efficiency
of
the
state
legislature
in
their
bills.
That's
the
way
it
is
same
thing
to
happen
to
federal
order.
There's
a
Constitution
and
the
legislature
can
make
any
rules
and
changing
your
rules.
They
want
as
long
as
it
doesn't
violate
the
Constitution.
They
won't
change
the
Constitution
as
process
for
that.
So.
K
N
B
N
If
you
agree
with
something
in
advancement
with
another
party,
then
usually
you
have
to
have
agreement
from
the
other
party,
but
it's
still
possible
to
change.
Okay,
that's
a
very
good
point,
because
if
the
state
comes
in
and
says
oh
we're
we're
all
the
state
for
us-
and
you
know
with
the
city
of
Athens:
oh
boy,
I,
can't
we
do
that
too.
We
go
that
way.
You've
got
it
in
your
wall.
Why
can't
you?
Let
us
do
it,
then
you
really
know
it's
the
same
thing
to
happen.
I
mean
it's.
O
O
L
L
A
C
So
we'll
start
I'm
gonna
stop
with
the
street
closing,
because
I
think
that
I'll
go
a
little
bit
quicker
as
far
as
any
or
the
upcoming
Street
closings.
There
is
one
for
the
boogie
on
the
bricks
of
which
I've
been
contacted
by
Rick,
Ross
Herrmann
I
think
was
last
year,
the
first
year
that
they
did.
This
began
the
bricks.
Okay
and
the
requested
the
date
is
July,
22nd
I
believe
the
times
are
going
to
stay,
the
same
7:30
a.m.
to
10:00
p.m.
C
N
C
C
C
The
Citizens
Bank
was
wanting
to
close
down
a
portion
of
Campbell
Street
for
a
grand
opening
and
in
the
letter
that
was
submitted,
that
I
received
on
says
we
requesting
to
close
down
the
street.
They
had
planned
to
have
some
tables
a
variety
of
craft
projects
for
children
who
will
be
attending
the
event
and
prizes
and
such
and
I
know
that
we
said
that
we
were
not
going
to
close
the
street.
C
N
N
So
we
always
look
at
it
as
saying
this
is
a
legislative
act
and
it's
not
an
in
effect
until
30
days
after
now,
we
understand
that
that
can't
always
happen
if
you
have
an
air
conditioning
unit
go
bad
on
the
roof
of
your
building
and
you
have
to
bring
in
a
crane
and
close
down
or
partially
close
down
the
street
for
a
period
of
time.
Those
are
emergency
type
situations
and
we
administrative
leak,
apply
back
on
the
Baker
Center.
N
N
So
the
law
director
suggested
that
maybe
you'd
want
whoever
was
closing
the
street
to
ensure
the
reliability
standpoint
and
just
really
got
to
be
a
little
bit
convoluted
and
our
our
purposes
for
in
essence,
I've,
never
seen,
counsel
close
the
street
that
I
can
recall,
you
know,
for
a
private
party
or
a
private
business.
I
have
seen
some
happen
for
neighborhood
associations
and
cetera
that
wanted
to
have
a
festival.
N
E
C
C
Some
sort
of
policy
so
that
you
know
when
these
are
brought
up,
that
we
have
something
that
we're
basing
our
decision
on
not
just
oh
well,
it's
a
low
traffic
street
will
close
it
down
or
it's
you
know,
community
base
will
close
it
down.
You
know
what
you
know
at
what
point
do
we
determine
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
close
the
street
down
or
not
and.
I
D
B
J
Looked
into
this
a
little
bit
because
people
weren't
asking
about
I
think
it
was
more
like
block
parties
at
one
point,
and
some
cities
have
a
policy
where,
if
a
certain
percentage
of
the
residents
sign
a
thing
saying
you
know
they
agree
that
they
want
to
do
this,
that
there
can
be
like
an
administrative
process
that
people
can
apply
for
a
straight
closing.
So
you
know
if
you're
wanting
to
work
on
a
policy,
you
might
just
look
at
what
some
other
cities
do.
J
So,
smart
of
what
kind
of
you
know
do
they
require
some
kind
of
deposit,
some
kind
of
coordination.
That's
but
I
do
think
at
some
point.
There
gets
to
be
a
limit
because
it
is
like
an
inconvenience
for
people,
especially
when
a
major
thoroughfare
that
people
use
to
get
through
town
gets
closed
down.
These
people
have
to
make
adjustments
and
deal
with
the
things
that
happened
when
the
streets
are
closed.
So
at
some
point,
if
more
and
more
and
more
events
come
to
us,
that's
a
good
idea
to
think
about
having
some
kind
of
conversation.
E
One
of
the
other
aspects
discussing
here
is
also:
it
does
cost
to
close
the
street
down.
We
have
to
put
the
barricades
up
across
I
forget
what
Andy
stone
told
me
a
couple
years
ago
and
what
it
costs
just
to
get
the
guys
up
there
with
the
barricades
it.
It
was
a
fixed
rate
of
a
minimal
rate,
but
at
the
same
time
this
is
what
I
would
weigh
each
time
is
it?
Is
it
cost
effective
that
way?
I
B
C
Se
and
that's
right
right
and
that's
what
I'm
wondering
I
mean
with
as
far
as
the
describe
that's
a
special
interest,
maybe
like
a
checklist
of
considerations
that
we
go
through
before
we
consider
closing
down
to
something
you
know
determining
how
much
it's
gonna
cost
time
of
day
well
traffic.
What.
B
N
Involved
with
all
of
them
frustrated
standpoint,
because
we
do
have
to
maintain
a
fire
lane
on
court
streets,
the
most
common
one
is
closed
and
we
have
always
had
a
set
up
so
that
we
can
get
a
fire
truck
in
there
and
proceed
down
it
most
of
the
rest
of
our.
Although
I
know
Sunday,
we
were
accused
of
having
the
longest
all
the
sack
in
the
world
to
the
gym.
It
didn't
make
the
turn
in
front
of
the
City
Building
in
Washington
and
proceeded
on
College
Street
toward
the
green.
N
I
N
I
E
L
L
C
C
C
N
N
I
I
N
For
crying
we're
going
to
maintain
at
least
a
lane
of
traffic
at
all
times
on
High
Street,
that's
the
plan,
but
for
there
that
was
spectators
and
everything
else
I
hesitate.
If
you've
got
one
lane
torn
up
together,
you
can
get
up
there
on
one
lane,
but
where
are
you
going
to
put
the
people
who
want
to
watch
the
event
so.
C
N
I
N
How
much
is
torn
up
in
that
area
and
then
what
liability,
because
we're
obviously
allowing
people
to
assemble
and
sanctioning
an
event
for
them
too
encouraging
them
to
come
and
see,
and
then
the
sidewalk
say,
repairs
in
that
area
is
not
done
in
their
open
pits
and
somebody
hurts
themselves
I
mean
that's.
That's
not
good.
I.
I
N
Know
if
we'd
better
lose
in
a
suit
about
it,
if
we
did
but
I
think
you
would
feel
obligated
to
do
so
expensive,
sir,
so
I
don't
want
to
put
people
in
an
unsafe
position,
since
it
is
an
August
3rd
date
means
we
have
to
pass
it
by
July.
But
before
opening
the
bids
May
11th,
we
ought
to
have
the
information
to
you
by
the
end
of
the
month.
Okay,.
C
C
Next
personal
agenda
was
sidewalks,
I
might
turn
it
over
to
paws
I'm
told
you're
the
sidewalk
expert
by
our
fellow
Transportation
Committee
member
Carol,
but
what
has
come
up
as
a
recent
in
respect
more
or
less
to
the
Stewart,
Street,
sidewalks
or
lack
thereof,
is
a
way
in
which
counsel
can
determine
which
areas
within
the
city
are
in
need
of.
Sidewalks
I
know
that
there
was
a
discussion
about
resolution
of
necessity.
C
There
was
a
resolution
of
necessity
passed
back
in
88
where
they
declared
some
areas
of
the
problematic
and
therefore
assessing
the
property
owners
for
those
sidewalks,
so
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
then
I
talked
to
Gary
Connor.
C
Her
night
correspond
with
him
via
email
today
on
what
exactly
you
know,
council
is
not
in
the
past
or
what
council
can
do
as
far
as
sidewalk
repairs,
and
you
said
that
you
know
it
was
hit
understanding
that
the
city
wants
to
consider
doing
sidewalks
when
doing
a
street
project
and
assessing
the
card
the
owner
for
cost.
He
said
if
this
is
to
be
done.
C
E
K
E
E
E
D
E
Should
get
some
kind
of
specs
on
them
and
online
for
that,
essentially,
usually
the
street
would
do
that.
Department
do
that
or
if
you
look
at
the
code
right
now
as
we
have
it
I
think
it
falls
under
the
surf
Safety
Director
to
actually
generate
the
specialist
specifications,
so
you
should
get
I
I
thought
they
had
some
kind
of
generic
specs.
Let's
try
to
look
at
the
subdivision
code
for
that,
but
it
just
talks
about
Great
Neck.
So
so
this
stuff
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
anything,
particularly
at
this
time
there.
N
Are
some
particulars
within
the
subdivision
of
the
lien
regulators,
I've
seen
some
of
those
what
one
of
my
questions
that
I
tried
to
get
with
Gary
it
wasn't
successful.
Today
it
was
those
two
sidewalks
have
to
be
on
cities
right
away
or
if
the
right
away
is
too
narrow.
Do
you
then,
and
you're
mandating
a
sidewalk?
N
Do
you
then
have
to
purchase
the
right
away
from
the
or
an
add
two
year
right
away
from
a
property
owner
or
eminent
domain,
because
when
I
look
at
storage
Street
according
to
the
county's
GIS
maps,
sections
of
it
are
twenty
feet
right
away.
Other
sections
with
28
feet
right
away
and
the
other
looks
of
like
a
bank-
maybe
a
thirty,
but
it's
not
labeled,
but
at
best
we
might
have
a
thirty
foot
right
away
or
on
storage.
N
True,
and
if
that
thing
is
exactly
Center
than
22
to
24
feet
wide
and
a
28
to
30
feet
right
away,
you
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
put
five
foot
sidewalk
on
each
side
and
I
know
that
from
talking
to
code
enforcement
about
when
we
required
as
each
one
of
those
that
has
been
remodeled
put
in
the
sidewalk
is
the
endpoint,
because
you
don't
want
all
the
heavy
trucks
going
across
and
crumbling
it
like
the
one
residence
near
cost
there.
The
intersection.
N
N
One
of
the
things
we
do
and
what
we
did
in
high
street
my
streets
a
little
different,
because
there's
section
in
the
code
21
or
912
20
that
says
existing
sidewalks.
We
can
mandate
that
they
be
repaired
and
the
City
Engineer
basically
went
through
and
said
these
are
bad,
and
so
we
did.
We
designed
it
that
way,
but
we
did
have
survey
work
done
to
make
sure
everything
we're
doing
is
within
our
right
away
and
we
know
all
of
the
elevations
and
everything
else.
N
E
N
E
N
But
it's
all
all
the
white
earnest
is
on
the
side
with
the
sidewalks,
not
on
the
side
that
doesn't
have
any
sidewalks
according
to
or
really.
But
you
know
we
can
send
probably
send
one
of
our
in-house
people
down
there.
That
doesn't
have
a
surveyors
license,
but
we
can
get
a
pretty
good
idea,
but
they're,
really
when
you
design
it
to
get
that
far.
It's
it's
going
to
have
to
have
an
actual
survey
or
do
it.
K
I
K
Feet
mm-hm
I
mean
so
we
could
go
down
to
four
feet.
I
would
say
if
we're
gonna
do
that
sidewalk
League
want
to
go,
leave
the
trees
there
and
go
around
him
as
we
did
by
the
library
in
Lincoln,
Street
and
so
I'm
writing
a
note
to
Debby
asking
her
to
see
if
she
can
find
the
plat
for
the
Stewart
Street
subdivision
and
see
if
there's
anything
in
the
deeds.
That
would
tell
us
what
the
right
way
is.
I
C
N
Accessible
from,
though,
what
we
did
at
Court,
Street
you're
supposed
to
be
a
minimum
of
42
inches
in
width
for
money,
from
a
corridors
type
standpoint
and
at
no
point
on
the
sidewalk
because
of
parking
meters
or
poles,
can
you
be
less
than
36
inches
wide?
That's
what
the
a
DA
requirements
specified
to
us.
I
N
K
E
C
So,
and
also
in
my
correspondence
with
the
wall
director,
he
was
going
to
look
into
it
further
and
refresh
so
we'll
be
getting
back
to
us
on
more
research
on
the
issue.
Now
let
count
something
else
that
comes
in
I
just
want
to
get
some
discussion
going
and
find
out
what
the
city
can
cannot
do
in
terms
of
sidewalks.
F
An
announcement,
the
consultant
for
transportation,
the
bus
transportation
was
here
last
Thursday
morning
and
the
next
step
will
be.
We
will
be
reviewing
the
proposed
routes
with
our
own
transportation,
Athens,
transit
people
and
the
oh,
you
transit
people
and
then
beginning
the
process
have
a
hearing
for
those
routes.
Let.
C
Me
say
two
and
comment
on
the
May
4th.
That
was
great
I
mean,
and
that
was
my
first
experience
with
sort
of
getting
the
overall
comprehensive
idea
of
what
is
going
to
be
become
of
this
plan
and
I
mean
it
was
wonderful.
I
think
almost
every
question
I
could
have
possibly
imagined
was
answered,
so
we.
I
J
What
to
convene
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee,
but
we
have
tonight
if
we
have
a
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
about
the
zoning
designation
for
University
estates
and
lance
pekus
here
with
us.
I've
got
them
map
and
I,
don't
know.
If
maybe
we
should
put
it
on
the
table
down
here,
so
everybody
can
look
at
it
or
on
the
table
up
here
and
either
either
place.
Blitz
could
come
and
talk
to
us
about
what's
on
the
map,
but
I
feel
like
people
need
to
look
at
this.
I
J
The
Planning
Commission
met
on
Thursday
and
approved
this
this
map
and
has
a
recommendation.
It's
my
understanding
that
part
of
the
project
is
platic
and
in
that
part
of
the
project,
these
zoning
designations
would
apply
to
the
existing
described
lot
lines
and
part
of
the
project.
That's
being
annexed,
hasn't
been
spotted
yet,
but
it's
generally
described
and
is
that
each
area
is
described
in
writing
and
when
it
comes
time
to
plat
that
part
of
it,
the
Planning
Commission
would
sign
off
on
these.
The
zoning
lining
up
with
those
flat
lines.
H
M
You
said,
but
this
is
part
of
the
step
on
annexation.
That's
why
we're
going
through
this
process
and
we
made
several
changes.
I,
don't
know
if
I
need
to
go
through
them
all,
but
a
good
example
is
this
area
here,
because
it
was
directly
associated
with
the
clubhouse
and
everything
we
thought
that
it
should
be
all
the
same
zone.
M
All
these
golf
villas
down
here
are
part
of
our
most
them
are
going
to
be
part
of
this
club
house,
rental,
food.
Okay,
so
that
my
mind
thought
I
had
to
zone
it,
be
one
because
it's
semi
business,
but
then
they're
saying
that
the
rentals
were
allowed
three,
so
that
it
was
better
for
us
to
do
that
way.
So
if
any
particular
one
of
these
say,
we've
got
to
this-
that.
L
J
J
One
question
that
I
had
when
I
first
looked
at.
It
is
that
in
the
areas
that
aren't
plaited,
yet
there
there
are
conceptual
outlines
of
where
the
lines
will
be
or
where
you
expect
them
to
be
when
you
bring
it
through
as
a
subdivision
to
give
that
planet.
But
some
of
these
there
aren't
lines
and
we
probably
need
to
figure
out
where's
the
line
between
the
r3
and
the
open
space
so
that
we
have
something.
Even
if
it's
going
to
go
through,
that
planning
process
later
just
a
kind
of
a
guideline.
M
What
what
it
doesn't
show
you
this
is
almost
300
for
the
difference
between
this
and
this.
So
when
this
happens,
we
have
to
determine
where
this
line
is
going
to
be
and
there's
two
things
why
I
can't
well
I,
think
I
can't
put
it
in
there
right
now
is
it's
part
of
our
sanitary
system
will
drop
down
below
and
come
through
here
versus,
let
them
in
the
deep
part
of
the
road
above
because
right
down
here
is
a
connection
point
where
we
go
to
I'll
move
the
street
from
the
city
area,
pear.
D
E
M
J
So
what
does
hoping
as
far
as
timeline
you
know
we
have
to
be
done
with
this
completely
by
July.
17Th
I
really
liked
our
third
readings
to
be
the
first
Monday
in
July.
So
I
want
to
start
reading
it,
the
first
one
day
in
June,
so
I
think
we
can
ask
a
lot
of
questions.
We
can
talk
about
this
another
time
in
committee
and
then
start
reading
it
so
lens
is
here
with
us.
Do
you
have
questions?
First,.
K
J
M
I
M
I
A
M
E
I
M
Those
in
Phase
two,
this
area
here
is
we're
still
on
invasion,
some
kind
of
ik
community
square
type
of
thing,
where
we
can
have
little
shops
and
little
retail
things,
because
this
is
kind
of
the
center
of
the
project.
So
it
becomes
a
very
easy
walking
situation
and
in
order
to
have
business
mixed
in
there,
we
just
that's
the
one
be
in
one
area
and.
B
M
L
M
J
K
L
A
M
B
C
E
K
J
Keeping
with
what
they
intended
with
their
recommendation,
I,
don't
think
it's
a
substantive
change
and
I
think
we
could
check
with
Gary.
But
he's
shown
us
that
on
some
other
issues,
so
you
know
there
they
were
looking
at
the
color
map
and
when-
and
you
know
talking
this
all
through
when
they
voted
and
I-
think
to
clarify
where
that
boundary
is.