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A
D
Thank
you
very
much
once
again:
I'm
John
buck
with
AP
Ohio
community
affairs
manager
and
we
take
great
concern
and
are
arris
advancing
questions.
So
the
council
may
have
about
our
vegetation
management,
control
or
reliability,
and
our
folks
are
here
tonight
we
feel
like
we.
We
should
be
able
to
address
most
questions
that
you
may
have
tonight
if
I
may
go
ahead
and
introduce
these
folks
starting
left
to
right
here.
Rob
Richardson's,
with
region
engineering
he's
at
the
laptop
Don
stemple
is
the
account
engineer
and
he's
new
and
in
the
city
of
Athens.
D
He
has
the
city
of
Athens,
as
his
account
takes
the
place
of
Terry
Lloyd
who's.
Just
behind
him
Tim
siphon
it
was
the
distribution
systems,
manager,
Steve,
Stanley
and
vegetation
controller.
Fourth
Street
behind
him.
As
milk
Shaffer
has
worked
with
a
lot
of
the
folks
uptown
customer
services,
Jeff
Rennie,
who
is
our
core
comp
consultant
Terry
Lloyd
I,
mentioned
him
in
in
the
planning
and
engineering
locally,
Gary,
Hall
and
Robby
shields
know
coy,
who
is
the
local
line,
crew
supervisor
or
all
here?
So
we
would
like
to
present.
D
They
give
a
presentation,
a
PowerPoint
about
the
reliability
and
kind
of
flows.
We
feel
like
one
under
the
other.
If
you
can
accommodate
us
all
at
once.
That
would
be
great.
If
not
we
understand
it
will
we'll
stay
until
we
need
to
so
without
further
ado,
I'll
go
ahead
and
introduce
start
program
to
210.
Ok,.
E
And
the
reason
we
brought
such
a
large
contingency
with
us
tonight
is,
we
hope,
to
be
able
to
answer
your
questions
while
we're
here,
instead
of
happened
to
go
back
and
get
an
answer
and
come
back.
However,
if
you
do
ask
something,
we
don't
have
the
answer
to
that's
what
will
they
do?
Well,
if
you
give
me
the
first
slide,
please
this
first
slide
kind
of
gives
a
representation
of
the
12
circuits
that
serve
the
Athens
sitting
and
when
you
look
at
explain
with
the
slides
telling
us
and
the
first
column
is
the
circuit
name.
E
The
second
column
is
the
total
number
of
customers
served
by
each
of
those
service.
The
third
column
tells
the
percentage
of
those
customers
that
are
inside
the
city
of
Athens
the
next
column.
Well,
the
next
six
columns
I
believe
give
us
the
causes
for
outages
that
are
heard
on
those
circus
and
the
next,
the
last
column
2006
safety
is
safety,
is
the
way
that
we
it's
a
statistical
way.
E
We
keep
track
of
the
number
of
outages
that
the
customers
on
this
circus
so,
for
example,
at
top
circuit
up
there,
where
it
says
point
eight,
eight
that
means
that
every
customer
on
that
circuit
experience
0.88
outages
that
year
now.
In
reality,
that
means
if
some
customers
didn't
have
any
outages
and
some
customers
probably
had
more
than
one
average,
but
on
average
twenty
eight.
E
So
what's
the
lower
the
number,
the
better,
the
higher
the
number,
the
more
outages
they
would
have
experienced
and
the
last
column
we
added
was
our
estimation
of
the
safety
that
would
have
been
realized
by
customers
that
live
within
the
city
of
Athens,
because
some
of
these
circuits
are
pretty
large
and
there
are
things
that
can
happen
outside
of
the
city
will
affect
your
customers
outside
the
city
that
might
not
have
affected
customers
inside
the
city
now
kind
of
going
back
to
the
the
outage
causes.
We
have.
E
We
start
off
with
equipment
failure
scheduled
outages,
trees
in
right
away.
That's
what
the
artery
is
named
for
trees
out
of
right
away,
unknown
non
weather
events
and
weather
events
include
lightning.
The
way
we
looked
at
those
is
you'll
see
it's
a
percentage
and
we
look
at
customer
menaces
away.
We,
we
kind
of
evaluate
an
outage
so,
for
example,
that's
nothing
more
than
the
number
of
customers
that
were
out
times
the
number
of
minutes
they
were
out.
So,
for
example,
there
was
one
customer
and
they
were
out
for
60
minutes.
E
That
would
be
60
minutes
a
customer
minutes
of
interruption.
On
the
other
hand,
if
it
were
two
customers
that
were
out
for
60
minutes,
that
would
be
already
20
minutes
of
customer
interruption,
so
it
kind
of
gauges
the
magnitude
based
on
the
number
of
customers
how
long
they
were
out.
So
when
you
look
down
through
there,
you'll
see
that
there's
different
percentages
to
pen
what
caused
the
outage.
A
good
example
is
this:
about
the
third
one
down
to
2902
you'll,
see
the
38%
of
the
outages
were
caused
by
equipment.
E
Failure
and
46%
were
caused
by
a
scheduled
outage,
and
we
know
on
that
one.
There
was
one
outage
that
affected
7
customers
that
lasted
three
hours
and
comes
up
to
around
1300
customer
minutes,
and
that
was
46%
of
the
customer.
Minutes
of
interruption
on
that
circuit
and
that
particular
outage
was
caused
because
we
had
to
be
energized
to
certain
some
of
those
facilities
to
set
a
report
for
a
new
customer.
E
Some
of
those,
sir,
when
you
go
down
to
the
bottom,
where
it
says
Athens
district
indices,
you'll
see
one
point
three,
that
is
the
safety
for
all
the
circuits
within
the
athens
district
and
the
athens
district
goes
from
Lancaster
to
Point,
Pleasant
Wellston
to
Marietta,
and
one
point
three
number.
So,
as
you
can
see,
when
you
look
down
through
there,
some
of
those
circuits
perform
better
than
the
district
average
and
some
foot
won't
works
in
the
district
average
or
had
more
outages.
E
Now
one
of
the
things
that
you
must
know.
If
you
look
at
the
four
circuits
on
the
bottom
and
those
are
the
circuits
served
out
of
Australia
on
station,
they
are
experiencing
or
have
experienced
a
higher
number
of
outages,
and
there
are
some
things
that
we
are
doing
about
that
explain
that
and
as
the
program
goes
long
are
there
any
questions.
B
E
F
B
E
E
And
we'll
talk
about
it,
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute
because,
okay,
that's
an
issue
I've
been
with
a
EP
for
20
years,
and
that
has
really
changed
over
that
period
of
time
before
you
had
digital
electronics
or
that
you
know,
and
the
theory
was
it's
better
to
have
the
little.
You
know
ten-second
interruption
than
the
extended
outage,
but
not
everybody
so
sure
by.
E
Okay,
this
slide
shows
us
the
work
that
we
have
completed
over
the
last
two
years
on
our
facilities
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
included
in
that
work.
Are
we
completed
a
visual
or
completed
inspection
and
the
repairs
on
six
of
those
circuits
that
we
were
looking
at
just
a
second
ago?
That
is
a
program
that
we
have
a
circuit,
inspection
repair
where
we'll
go
out
and
visually
look
at
at
everything
on
that
circuit
from
end
to
end
identify
the
things
that
need
to
be
fixed
and
repair.
E
Reclose
will
reflect.
We
replaced
37
reclose.
Now
what
a
reclosure
is
and
kind
of
getting
to
your
question,
the
recloser
is
kind
of
like
a
circuit
breaker.
It
automatically
detects
a
problem
on
a
line
and
will
open
up
and
then
closed.
In
other
words,
it
will
be
energized
the
line
and
re-energize
the
one.
What
we
found
in
a
huge
number
of
cases,
85,
90
plus
percent,
a
problem
with
a
powerline-
is
temporary.
It's
an
animal
or
it's
a
tree.
E
It
gets
up
and
just
by
de-energizing
the
line
and
re-energizing
line,
the
problem
will
clear
and
you
will
avoid
the
extended
outage.
However,
you
will
have
the
annoyance
of
having
to
reset
clocks
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
we
have
a
program
to
replace
recloser
x'.
We
replace
all
of
our
recloser
every
five
to
seven
years
cut
out
replacement
program.
We
replace
28
cutouts
in
the
last
two
years
and
what
that
is.
We
have
found
down
that
there
was
a
period
of
time
in
the
mid-90s.
E
E
E
That
is
a
program
we
have
to
install
protective
devices
like
cutouts
Andry
closures,
and
we
do
that
in
order
to
minimize
the
number
of
customers
that
will
be
affected
by
an
outage
and
some
of
within
that
program
we
either
installed
or
upgraded
ata
tree
closers
or
we
install
it
or
resize
172
cutouts
animal
mitigation.
Essentially
what
that
is.
E
We
replaced
a
station
Brust
bus,
breaker,
disconnect
switches
and
what
that
was
an
item
in
a
station
structure
on
actually
that
was
found
a
routine
inspection
to
be
defective
and
we
scheduled
an
owl
age,
and
that
was
right
before
Christmas
last
year.
We
actually
did
it
one
o'clock
in
the
morning.
We
did
that
in
order
to
minimize
the
impact
to
the
customers,
and
some
of
you
may
remember
that
it
was
kind
of
we
had
a
little
bit
of
difficulty
getting
that
scheduled
because
it
turned
out
there
was
a
post
office
on
that
surface.
E
That
was
sorting
when
coughing
mornings,
when
they
sort
mail-
and
it's
not
one
o'clock
in
the
morning-
wasn't
gonna
work.
Real
well
for
them
took
off
in
the
afternoon,
was
not
going
to
work
for
forever.
There's
a
war
on
either
so
we
ended
up
finding
a
way
to
keep
any
service.
While
we
did
that
in
a
in
a
bus
break
or
disconnects
which
the
purpose
we
have
one
does
not
provide
some
flexibility.
E
E
We
rebuilt
six
feeder
breakers
and
a
feeder
breaker
is
kind
of
like
a
recloser,
only
it's
in
a
substation
and
it
carries
all
the
load
and
affects
all
the
customers
on
that
circuit.
So
it
has
to
be
capable
of
carrying
and
interrupting
higher
amounts
of
water,
and
then
we
also
did
some
lightning
mitigation.
What
that
is,
is
that's
the
installation
of
lightning,
risers
and
lightning
arrestors
protect
our
facilities
in
the
event
of
a
lightning
strike
and
over
all
that
work
cost
approximately
2.7
million
dollars.
E
E
E
Connects
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
series
of
events
that
accrued
on
the
North,
Port
and
State
Street
in
May,
and
to
start
off
with
kind
of
this
is
a
map
of
our
facilities
in
the
area
and
I
need
to
describe
a
little
bit
about.
What's
up.
There
was
up
there
when
we
started
this,
so
this
will
make
some
sense,
but
this
right
here
is
the
location
of
the
Transformers.
E
314
is
actually
up
on
a
pole
back
in
the
alley,
so
these
customers
in
here
this
line
right
here,
is
what
we
call
primary
line
and
what
that
is.
That's
a
7200
volt
line
that
feeds
the
transformer.
The
transformer
purpose
is
to
change
the
voltage
from
7,200
volts
down
to
120
240
or
whatever.
The
service
voltage
is
for
the
customer
of
the
business.
This
green
line
right
here
is
a
secondary
line
and
that's
120
240
120
240
volts,
and
it
just
it
goes
to
the
second
pole.
Here
it
serves
these
customers.
E
We
have
that
happen,
trucks
combine
and
conductor
that
fails
and
that's
what
it
appeared
to
be
from
they
looked
at
so
we
just
repaired
that
secondary
conductor.
Well,
the
next
day
it
went
out
again
and
we
realized
that
it
was
overloaded.
So
we
replaced
that
line
with
a
bigger
one,
just
a
bigger
secondary
line,
and
we
took
load
readings
while
we
were
there
and
we
realized
that
the
load
was
quite
a
bit
more
than
what
we
thought
it
was.
So
we
started
making
plans
to
create
additional
capacity
up
there
more
than
you
can
do.
E
E
There's
no
procedure
in
place
to
let
us
know
about
that,
but
I'm
not
saying
we
can't
do
anything
about
that,
because
I
believe
we
can
it's
just
the
way
we
were
operating
before
I
want
to
make
some
changes
in
order
to
capture
that
now.
The
other
thing
I'll
tell
you.
We
kind
of
changed
our
operating
procedure
as
well,
with
Bill
quois
help
that.
E
We
were
now
I
mean
when
we
go
up
to
repair
something
we're
going
to
get
loo
greetings.
While
were
there
the
first
time
you
know
we
probably
could
have
caught
this
a
little
earlier.
Had
we
done
that,
it
was
just.
You
know
something
we
really
hadn't
encountered
before
and
we
did
change
our
procedure
now
is
we
would
take
low-degree
the
first
time.
B
E
I
J
E
B
How
unsafe
is
it
I
guess?
Is
the
question
I
mean
you
know,
I
know,
did
we
talk
about,
you
know
pyrotechnics
and
fireworks
and
flames
coming
out,
and
everything
like
that,
so
a
wire
dropping
would
be
a
problem
and
I
assume
the
pole
catching
a
fire,
the
problem.
What
about
you
know
this
transformers
explode
or
look?
Do
they
melt
or
what
well.
E
Transformers
typically,
don't
explode,
they're
full
of
oil
mm-hmm
and
they
can't
catch
on
fire,
and
you
know,
and
you
open
come
down
or
when
that
happens
so
I
mean
what
I
would
say
to
anybody.
Is
you
know
you
would
never
go
around
anything
like
that
sort.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
if
the
fire
department
is
going
to
come
and
fight
a
fire
on
a
pole,
we
need
to
be
there
to
de-energize
it.
E
So
you
know
what
we
do
is
during
a
storm
situation.
We
try
when
people
call
in
we
try
to
find
out
because
they're
a
hazard,
in
other
words
as
their
wire
downs
or
something
before
that
sort
of
thing,
and
we
would
send
somebody
out
to
go
to
that.
If
we
had
to
we
get
a
crew
there
to
take
care
of
it.
I
mean
this
is
during
a
major
storm
of
menacing
sort
of,
but
it
it
would
be
something
that
you
would
want.
E
Yeah
they
do,
and
but
sometimes
we
hear
from
other
people
before
that
too,
and
so
you
know,
if
somebody
calls
in
they
can
like.
Even
if
you
call
our
solution
center,
you
have
the
opportunity,
even
if
all
of
their
operators
you
tighten
up
and
you've
got
a
put
in
a
number
for
this
number.
For
that,
there's
a
number:
is
there
something
that
from
danger?
I
did
that
and
it
notifies
us
that
there's
a
hazard
out
there
that
we
need
to
react
to
now.
The
first
responders
do
have
a
direct
access
and
have
a
special
number.
A
E
E
A
E
I
E
It
was
probably
from
me
and
we
had
when
the
breaker
problem
happened,
that
we
were
placed
out
at
Stroud's
run
fitness
operated
and
we
knew
there
was
a
problem
with
it
and
we
knew
we
had
to
replace
it
and
he
suspected
it
was
going
to
make
an
outage
to
get
that
done.
So
we
wanted
people
to
know
about
that
important.
E
K
E
E
K
K
Mean
our
number
one
goal
is
to
provide
safety
and
reliable
power
to
our
customers
and
to
our
employees,
and
a
part
of
that
safety
is
to
test
trees
or
trim
trees
on
our
right.
Aways
control.
The
vegetation
and
a
part
of
that
program
involves
quite
a
process
with
contacting
the
customers
evaluating
the
circuits
to
see
what
circuits
need
to
be
trimmed
which
which
could
Intel
Patrol
or
the
data
that
Tim
had
show
that
showed.
K
Showed
the
safety
numbers
it
that
date
of
Adaline
servicemen
collect,
goes
hand
in
hand
with
that
data.
That
comes
to
us,
and
we
review
that
data,
and
it
will
show
us
what
circuits
are
having
problems
with
vegetation,
potentially
whether
it's
an
out
of
right
away
tree
or
in
right
away
tree.
We
can
look
at
that
and
say
wow.
K
The
customer
two
weeks
to
a
month,
we
have
crews
on
site
to
do
the
work,
whether
whether
it
be
removals
for
trims.
We
have
a
sort
of
a
paint
scheme
as
to
how
we
mark
the
trees,
whether
it's
a
removal
or
a
trim.
We
have
work
planners
that
go
out
and
they
mark
the
trees,
blue
for
a
trim
and
red
for
removal.
It's
a
little
dot
about
the
size
of
a
50-cent
piece,
and
at
that
point
the
crews
know
when
they
get
out
there
to
cut
what
trees
they're
cutting
what
trees
they're
trimming.
K
And
also
along
those
lines,
you
know
we
try
to
make
contact
with
the
tree
Commission's
if
the
city
or
village
has
a
Commission
which
Athens
does
and
and
I
worked
with
Ali
McWilliams
on
the
tree
Commission
to
rectify
some
of
the
issues
there.
Also
we
work
with
them
to
to
give
presentations
to
the
area.
K
B
K
C
K
K
B
I
one
of
the
complaints
I'm,
basically
the
most
I'm
hearing,
is
the
the
asymmetry
of
the
trees
are
how
badly
they're
damaged.
If
you,
if
you
have
a
saved
as
a
let's
say,
you
want
to
trim
it
and
they
say:
well,
that's
you're
gonna
really
damage
it.
Do
you
give
them
the
option
for
removal
as
well
or
sure,
okay
and.
K
K
Second
option
says
that
you
Drex
in
the
credit
and
basically
what
you're
doing
is
trimming
that
tree
any
branch,
that's
growing
towards
the
wire
you're,
eliminating
that
rant
and
you
make
specific
cuts
on
that
tree
to
eliminate
that
branched
from
growing
back.
The
tree
will
heal
yourself
over
and
basically
make
the
tree
grow
like
this.
Okay,.
I
A
K
K
K
B
Okay
again,
a
majority
of
our
city
is
is
rental,
so
therefore
we
don't
I
suspect.
We
don't
hear
that
much
in
terms
of
this
stuff
being
done.
But
I
do
we
hear
a
lot
about
the
conditions
of
trees?
That's
one
of
the
things
I
feel
there's
a
lot
not
just
being
there
to
treat
Commission.
It's
not
the
tricky
mission
that
I
hear
from
Ennis.
B
I'm
having
I
was
not
aware
that
you
even
tried
contact
memos,
not
aware
that
these
tickets
existed
and
that's
the
first
time
I've
seen
one
which
was
kind
of
surprising
because
I
was
I
would
have
figured
that
anybody's
complain
to
me
would
be
be
aware
of
it
somehow
and
I
think
that'll
be
the
next
question
less
next
time.
I
get
a
complaint
before
you
contact
it
twice.
I
wasn't
aware:
this
is
a
system
that
you
have
received
in
a
tenant
place.
B
I
know
that
we
just
passed
mr.
buck
there.
The
an
see
information
there
it
is
given
by
Alvey
I
know
that
also
that
we
had
an
ordinance
that
goes
to
2011,
giving
you
the
right
to
do
this
to
me
again,
there's
a
lot
of
fun
I
like
to
see
more
contact
with
the
people
make
sure
they
do
are
aware
of
the
implication.
What's
going
down,
I
did.
A
J
J
It's
been
mentioned
in
a
couple
of
the
neighborhood
association
meetings
that
the
company
that
you
contract
with
to
do
the
pruning
in
other
parts
of
the
country
gets
awards
for
doing
really
wonderful
pruning.
So
people
have
it
expressed
the
notion
that
it
could
be
done
better
than
what
you're
seeing
in
the
pictures
there
well.
K
K
K
B
Some
of
the
considerations
I'm
hearing
is
that
in
some
of
those
pitches,
for
instance,
on
East
State
Street,
some
of
the
trees
have
been
pruned
very
a
symmetrically.
So
therefore
they
actually
is
that
the
new
hazard
thing
that
they're
now
leaning
towards
the
heavens
I
mean
it's
it's
okay
for
the
wires,
but
it's
now
imposes
another
cost
to
the
owner.
Some
of
the
other
ones,
there's
a
whole
slew
of
pines
that
have
been
talked
and
I
know.
I
B
B
K
K
B
K
Here
recently,
we
had
some
trees
that
they're
on
a
city
property
that
we
would
like
to
get
rid
of,
and
she
worked
great
with
us.
I
appreciate
that
Alvey
and
we
got
the
trees
removed
and
we've
got
the
wood
taken
care
of
by
a
local
guy
that
burned
firewood,
and
you
know
we
try
to.
We
try
to
work
as
close
as
we
can
with
them.
I
mean
work,
we're
in
this
city,
we're
in
Lancaster
we're
in
the
order
in
law,
villages
and
cities
around.
K
G
But
then,
if
they're
not
right
there,
when
it
happens,
it
happens
differently
than
they
anticipate
and
and
what
you're
describing
explains
a
little
bit.
But
is
there
anything
we
can
do
about
that
and
I
applaud
Debbie's
suggestion
that
you
do
something
so
that
the
city
is
saying
to
you.
Oh
thank
you
for
doing
such
a
wonderful,
attractive
job
of
trimming,
the
trees,
and
we
do
a
resolution
saying.
Thank
you
for
your
wonderful
treatment.
K
K
K
Things
happens,
storms
come
up,
we
have
to
move
tree
crews
wherever
and
a
lot
of
time.
That
happens.
You
know
in
those
instances
where
customers
want
to
be
there,
we
usually
try
to
accommodate
them
and
get
phone
numbers
and
call
if
we
don't
get
a
hold
of
them
chances.
Are
we
go
ahead
and
do
the
work
right.
F
K
K
B
At
the
same
time,
there
is
a
monetary
question:
somebody
loses
a
tree
or
loses
the
shape
of
the
tree
in
front
of
the
house.
I
mean
this
is
a
house
that
would
look
a
certain
way
and
all
sudden,
you
know
whether
it's
symmetry
of
trees
or
whatever.
You
know
this
is
that
this
is
a
financial
impact
to
some
members
or
aesthetic
for
that
matter.
B
But
at
the
same
time
you
draw
or
you're
affected
homeowners
in
that
sense,
glad
that
you
have
a
ticket
system
and
a
tax
system
to
contact
them
it'd
be
nice
to
make
sure
that
the
homeowner
is
on-site
and
make
sure
that
you
have.
You
know
due
diligence
and
getting
them
there
or
make
sure
that
they,
according
to
the
time
and
I,
don't
come
how
much
more
vegetation
you
have.
You
have
other
things
to
present.
B
B
J
B
L
B
M
120
107
you
and
a
member
of
the
tree
Commission,
also
a
member
of
the
executive,
the
Near
Eastside,
Labor
Association,
so
I
get
it
from
do
sites
and
going
back
to
one
of
the
earlier
things.
Today
we
mentioned
I'm
surprising,
the
company,
that's
billing
customers.
The
power
doesn't
know
how
much,
how
are
those
customers
are
using,
but
maybe
that's
because
I'm,
a
physicist
and
I
can
think
from
conservation
terms,
and
these
things
have
to
add
up
eventually.
M
But
we,
as
paul
said,
hear
from
many
people
who
do
not
like
the
way
that
these
light
shade
trees,
which
are
in
the
wrong
place.
They
shouldn't
be
there.
I've
been
proved
that
we
would
much
prefer.
I
think
many
of
the
people
who
have
these
trees
would
much
prefer
a
EP
to
take
a
stronger
position
when
it
comes
to
trying
to
get
these
trees
replaced
with
smaller,
more
appropriate
trees.
M
For
these
these
places,
because
a
tree
commission
we
we
look
at
that
whenever
we
get
a
year
development
plan
coming
and
we
see
those
high
voltage
cables
there,
we
will
try
and
make
sure
that
that
property
owner
then
puts
in
trees
that
are
appropriate
for
those
sites,
and
I
think
they
could.
They
could
possibly
do
a
little
bit
more
to
get
that
done.
M
Asked
one.
Is
their
primary
contractor,
I've
seen
them
working
in
the
city,
they
work
extremely
quickly,
I'm
sure,
they're,
very
efficient,
but
I,
don't
think
aesthetics
comes
into
their
training
now.
It
surprises
me
that
some
of
the
things
that
you
see
being
done
with
these
treats
topping,
which
this
article
notes
is
one
of
the
worst
things
you
can
do
too
many
of
these
trees
that
really
isn't
within
the
I
think
within
the
scope
of
the
ANSI
standard,
I.
Think
I'm
doing
that
to
some
of
these
very
large
trees
they
just
it's
gonna,
kill
them.
F
C
My
name
is
Aldi
McWilliams
I'm,
the
chair
of
the
Athletes,
a
tree
Commission,
and
it
is
true
that
we
have
a
pretty
good
project
related
relationship
with
handling
when
things
come
up
and
most
recently
that
we
had
a
wonderful
initiative
by
Steve
for
replacement
of
trees,
but
that
were
in
the
city
right-of-way
and
which
would
have
gotten
up
in
power
lines,
and
we
had
better
trees
bought
by
AEP
to
replace
the
things
that
were
taken
out.
Oh-
and
this
is
the
kind
of
initiative
that
the
tree
Commission
is
hoping
we
might
see
more
of
that.
C
This
is
the
problem.
Is
there
really
are
a
lot
of
trees,
the
wrong
tree
in
the
wrong
place,
and
what
we
see
happening
are
repeated
toppings
of
trees.
Toppings
are
not
in
the
ANSI
standards
and
when
trees
that
want
to
be
a
hundred
feet
or
45
50
feet
tall
are
under
the
power
lines.
This
is
going
to
happen
over
and
over
again
and
we
have
because
it's
an
old
town.
We
have
a
lot
of
really
big
trees
in
the
wrong
place.
C
They
were
there
before
the
power
lines
in
many
cases,
and
we've
had
repeated
toppings
of
silver
maples,
for
instance,
and
I
think
that
the
hospital
crews
have
even
come
across
silver
maples
that
they've
thought
perhaps
might
close
hazards
as
they
were
doing
their
pruning
or
popping.
It's
that
this
would
be
an
opportunity
to
get
communication
about
a
tree
from
people
who
are
right
there
looking
at
it
and
who
are
perhaps
compounding
the
problem
by
by
that
kind
of
work.
C
We
need
some
better
communication
in
that
kind
of
a
situation
we
have
passed
out,
assured,
go
through
the
ANSI
standards
and
Steve's
write
about
the
the
focus
of
these
standards
and
the
this
is
a
wonderfully
succinctly.
It
is
the
American
National
Standards
Institute,
a
300
of
document,
standard
practices
for
trees,
shrubs
and
other
woody
plant
maintenance,
and
it
calls
for
basically
a
minimum
number
of
cuts
to
occur,
to
respect
the
shape
of
a
tree
and
when
putting
occurs
that
it
should
be
a
cut.
C
That
goes
all
the
way
back
to
the
the
collar,
for
the
most
part
that
there
aren't
stub
cuts
and
many
of
the
complaints
you're
getting
are
about.
Not
respecting
the
shape
of
the
tree
about
cutting
and
leaving
a
stub
a
stump
so
that
there's
a
branch,
that's
simply
sticking
out
and
leaving
an
opportunity
for
disease
and
decay
to
occur,
and
they
in
truth,
in
the
radical
fearing
where
you
go
all
the
way
back
for
the
trunk
is
almost
a
better
ANSI
observation,
except
that
it
doesn't
observe
the
shape
of
the
tree.
C
It
doesn't
respect
the
shape
of
the
tree
and
cutting
out
the
Centers
of
trees,
which
has
indeed
occurred
on
these
State
Street
I.
Think
someplace
about
160
East,
State
close
to
Verona.
There
is
a
what
looks
to
be
a
maple.
That's
had
the
center
of
it
just
removed
and
that's
not
healthy
things,
so
those
those
kinds
of
trees.
Probably
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
better
communication
with
the
city.
These
are
all
rights
of
way.
Trees
I
do
believe
about
trees.
C
That
ought
to
be
assessed
as
some
sort
of
a
replacement
program
that
what's
happening
is
long-term.
Maintenance
is
being
created
for
the
city.
Potential
hazards
are
being
created
for
the
city
by
treating
trees
in
this
fashion.
If
it
would
be
a
simple
approach
to
have
ANSI
standards
to
be
a
requirement
for
pruning
and
I
think
the
I
know
there
are
efforts
that
you
very
much
want
to
do
this,
but
I
don't
think
we've
got
that
in
language.
A
B
J
B
When
you
tell
them
that
this
fee
has
to
be
trimmed,
do
you
actually
explain
what
has
to
be
done
or
do
you
recommend
that
should
be?
You
know,
Connie
would
all
be
saying
again
a
lot
of
tree
Commission's
on
learning
this
right
now,
because
I'm
lose
this
thing.
Would
you
actually
most
the
time
recommend
that
they
take
it
off
entirely
I
mean
you've
opened
up
John
say
you
know
we're
gonna
have
to
take
off
this
side
light
here,
and
you
know
if
you
have
a
choice
of
taking
a
little
tree
or
an
oak
tree
whatsoever.
B
M
K
K
A
L
Well,
I
guess
I'm,
one
of
those
troublesome
customers
who
have
been
concerned
about
the
recent
power
outages
Leslie
shallow,
representing
Cal,
seen
you
Ava
before
with
State
Street.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
gentleman
from
a
EP
for
this
presentation.
That
was
the
best
information
I've
received
as
a
commercial
business
owner,
but
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
make
some
recommendations
or
suggestions
to
particularly
commercial
users.
L
B
L
E
E
Actually,
this
might
be
a
good
segue
into
Dawn's
discussion.
Okay,
because
that
is,
that
is
a
1/4
of
what
we
want
to
talk
about
this
evening
was
coming
up
with
maybe
some
things
we
can
do
to
close
that
gap,
because
we
agree
with
you
there.
There
is
a
some
opportunities
here
as
we
learn
by
this
experience,
because
when
we
took
our
load
ranges.
E
N
E
H
F
H
Name's
Lorraine
mckusker
I'm
a
resident
at
59
Elmwood
and
this
year
when
they
were
doing
tree
trimming
I
happened
to
be
home
that
day
and
worked
in
the
neighborhood
with
mr.
Stanley
and
I
feel,
like
the
input
did
I
had
on
that
day,
assisted
in
minimizing
the
tugging
that
happened.
I
saw
that
with
a
resident
or
a
consumer
they're
advocating
for
the
tree,
we
we
had
a
good
result.
H
I'd
also
like
to
indicate
that
trees
are
really
important
in
our
environment.
They
act
to
sequester,
carbon
and
right
now
we're
having
a
global
warming
crisis.
They
also
act
to
cool
and
warm
our
homes.
So
when
we
remove
these
trees
in
front
of
our
houses,
our
electricity
bills,
so
it's
sort
of
a
catch-22
to
the
consumer
as
well
as
I,
would
imagine.
Atp
I
agree
that
many
of
the
trees
in
Athens
are
inappropriately
placed
and
we
have
an
urban
forest
that
is
compromised.
It's
old.
H
A
lot
of
the
trees
are
in
very
poor
condition,
but
we
also
have
a
very
minimal
amount
of
money
to
replace
that
and
to
take
care
of
the
trees,
and
this
is
very
critical.
It's
just
very
critical.
Many
cities
and
communities
around
the
country
have
those
resources
and
they
don't
and
they
recognize
the
importance
of
having
a
City
arborist,
but
also
people
who
are
certified
I.
Don't
think
that
this
would
happen
in
communities
where
it
was
demanded
that
we
have
a
certified
arborist
on
site
when
the
trimming
is
happening.
H
So
I
would
like
to
make
some
recommendations,
as
a
citizen
I
think
that
it
would
be
highly
advantageous
if
a
EP
was
required
to
have
a
certified
arborist
on-site
when
trees
are
trimmed
and
cut.
All
tree
surgeons
should
be
trained
and
I
think
that
there
is
a
lack
of
that
with
the
people
who
are
currently
doing
that
the
trimming
I
think
a
piece
could
replace,
damaged
or
seriously
injured
trees
when
trees
are
cut
around
homes.
H
Energy
increases
why,
as
I
said
that
I
think
communities,
especially
in
Southeast
Ohio,
we
have
these
forests
that
our
urban
trees
are
greatly
compromised.
We
have
the
history
of
coming
in,
we
cut
everything
down
and
we
built
houses,
and
we
really
don't
have
this
real,
strong,
healthy
urban
forest.
That's
going
to
maintain
our
our
community
I
propose
that
the
supervisor
and
certified
arborist
meet
with
representatives
of
the
neighborhood's
to
discuss
their
tree
trimming
and
remove
a
plan
so
that
there
can
be
an
evaluation
and
representation
by
landowners.
H
H
I'd
also
like
to
encourage
a
EP
to
provide
education
to
consumers
about
importance
of
trees.
So
I
think
that
my
concern
is
I.
Think
that
there's
this
cavalier
attitude
about
the
trees
that
that
they're
in
they're
in
the
way
they're
in
the
way
of
the
lines
and
therefore
we
don't
need
them
there
and
I-
think
that
they
do
provide
a
very
important
role
in
in
the
aesthetics
of
our
community.
H
There's
been
research
about
how
communities
are
safer
and
have
less
violence
when
they
have
trees,
and
it's
just
and
have
more
of
a
community
and
I
think
you
can
look
at
that.
Anybody
in
the
whole
town
would
say
what
is
a
beautiful
Street.
Well,
there
are
nice
homes
on
it,
but
I
think
it's
because
of
the
trees
and
I
think
we
could
make
every
street
beautiful
this
trees
I'd
like
a
EP
to
adjust
it
I.
H
K
F
K
K
As
far
as
the
arborist
ask
them
does
have
arborist
I
am
NOT
an
arborist.
Currently
at
this
time,
although
I
am
a
member
of
the
ISA
International
Society
of
arborist
I
attend
a
lot
of
meetings
that
in
presentations
that
they
present
Columbus
West
Virginia
I've
been
to
st.
Louis
for
there
national
meeting
with
us
foresters
take
pride
in
getting
the
job
done
and
trying
to
take
the
trees
well
being
in
in
consideration
and
there
again
we
need
to
get
our
clearance
from
the
power
lines.
B
B
G
A
D
N
Thanks
once
again,
to
dawn
step,
one
customer
service
engineer
and
one
of
my
guests,
resistant
city
of
Athens
and
I'm
new
to
ap,
is
John
inventions,
but
taken
over
the
counter
variable.
It's
not
a
job
of
all.
The
customers
are
gonna,
be
taking
everything
camel
something
together:
work
rally
very
power
for
23
years
and
located
in
Marietta,
taking
so
much
territory
because
it's
more
convenient,
but
anyway,
it
sounds
like
to
me
that
problems
that,
as
I
understand
a
situation
here,
almost
communications.
N
N
Let's
go
home
with
an
increase
in
love.
So,
while
what
we
depend
on
is
as
customers
to
notify
us
of
when
they
increase
load
and
sometimes
for
new
businesses
on
the
circuit,
yeah,
we'll
know
that
good
with,
but
facilities
in,
but
if
a
customer,
if
they
would
have
put
in
a
large
I,
guess,
equipment
electric
equipment
when
they
built
the
house
enough
capacity,
they
could
add
load
without
having
to
contact
us,
and
that
does
create
problem.
Now
when
we
installed
our
facilities.
N
N
N
There's
things
in
place
that
can
help
with
that
communication,
and
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
maybe
sit
down
with
some
people
from
city
of
Mathis
and
and
see,
if
there's
a
better
way
that
maybe
the
city
can
be
involved
with
that
communication
product
process
to
keep
these
type
of
reliability
situations
happening,
and
it
sounds
like
the
same
thing
with
the
with
the
trees.
That
sounds
like
deer.
It's
all
communication
there
as
well
that
and
they've
stated
that
maybe
the
company
can
do
a
better
job
of
informing
customers
on
the
front.
End:
hey
yeah!
N
You
need
to
plant
these
type
of
trees.
Yeah
can
be
located
in
a
place;
it
won't
grow
than
the
power
lines
or
it
won't
grow
tall
enough
to
grow
up
in
the
power
line.
So
I
know
we
do
do
some
of
that,
but
maybe
we
can
review
that
again
and
see
what
we
can
do
about
that
and
sounds
like
there's
communication
there
between
you,
two
and
I
think
we
need
to
make
sit
down
and
develop
something
going
forward
that
it
sounds
like
for
tree
replacements.
It's
kind
of
have
to
be
on
an
individual
basis.
N
I,
don't
think
we
can
adopt
something,
that's
going
to
work
for
every
situation,
so
I
think
maybe
for
a
certain
situation.
You
know
one
thing
work,
another
situation,
something
else
going
to
work,
so
we
just
have
to
just
have
to
comes
down
the
communication
that
we
need
to
do
better
jobs
you
own
and
consequently
the
customers
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
communication
with
us
as
far
as
what
they
what
they
want
and
I
guess.
So
we
can
because
we
want.
N
B
F
N
Can
be
very
expensive
for
a
proposition
to
do
that
once
you
know,
facilities
are
already
in
place,
it's.
It
is
very
expensive.
Put
them
underground
that
point
when
new
things
are
built,
that's
the
time
to
do
it
I
think
you
can
minimize
the
it's
it's
more
expensive
when
you're
building
something
that's
difficult
or
expensive
to
to
put
it
underground,
but
it
can
be
minimized.
We
can
do
then,
rather
than
later,
is.
B
B
You're
gonna
have
to
go
back
every
couple
years
and
trim
trees.
That's
a
that's!
An
ongoing
cost
to
I
mean
you
say:
the
initial
cost
would
be
varying
wines
they
have
to.
Its
close
would
be
not
having
to
have
crews
out
there
cutting
trees,
yeah
III,
don't
know
that
how
the
measure
is.
That's
why
I'm
asking
the
question?
That's
all
it
is,
and.
N
N
N
M
I
I
Of
us
on
the
way,
though,
certainly
not
in
our
experience
and
my
business
also
long-term
adages
have
their
severe
disadvantages
but
frequent
short
term
outages.
What
small
business
are
also
more
than
just
inconvenient
with
resetting
clocks,
but
as
we
all
move
into
the
electronic
age
and
have
to
have
to
install
computers
and
digital
phones
to
keep
up
with
with
technology
those
three
to
five
or
15-second
interruptions,
five
minutes
and
interrupt
communications
or
much
longer
time,
and
the
gentleman
mentioned
that
there's
some
thought
being
given
to
that
concept.
E
Ideally,
we
would
prefer
there
not
be
any
kind
of
men
around.
Obviously
we
do.
Our
strategy
for
protection
does
involve
basically
says
it's
better:
to
have
a
momentary
interruption
than
extend
eruption.
We
design
our
protection
so
that
it's
something
if
there's
a
problem
on
a
line.
The
first
thing
that
happens
is
you
have
the
momentary
you
open?
You
do
energize,
you
re-energized
because,
like
I
said
before
90
plus
percent
of
the
time
that
clears
the
problem.
E
I
think
you're
talking
two
seconds
three
seconds,
something
like
that,
but
it's
enough
that
interrupts
I
mean
if
you've
got
digital
electronics,
that
it
shuts
them
down,
and
that
strategy
was
developed,
probably
prior
to
digital
electronics.
But
that
is
our
strategy.
Now
I
can
tell
you
that
there's
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
taking
a
look
at
that
right.
Now
we
right
now.
We
only
monitor
some
of
our
system
to
know
when
that
happens.
For
example,
the
circuit.
E
We
talked
about
the
station
breaker
that
I
talked
about
before
we
typically
monitor
those
have
telemetry
on
them.
We
know
when
they
operate
when
one
of
those
operates.
If
we
don't
know
why,
like
the
one,
the
storm
or
something
like
that,
we
routinely
go
out
and
patrol
it.
We
have
some
equipment
that
helps
us
identify
problems
and
we
try
to
find
out
what
caused
x3
fuzzers.
That
I
talked
about
that.
We
have
Adam
Alliance
the
second
line
of
defense.
E
Typically,
we
do
not
have
until
I'm
agree
on
them
and
customer
calls.
Customer
feedback
tells
us
with
one
of
those
operator.
We
do
some
what
we
do
monitor
those
and
look
at
counters
on
them,
and
we
know
we
can
pick
up
what
they've
been
operating
off,
but
it's
not
real
time.
So
there's
some
discussion
discussion
moving
forward
about.
We
need
to
change
that
and
we
are
experimenting
with
meters
that
actually
go
on
customers
robbery.
E
It's
a
billing
revenue
meter,
but
it
also
has
some
telemetry
on
to
tell
us
when
there's
aa,
proper
type
of
operation
is
a
person
moving
forward.
We
know
from
feedback
from
our
customers
that
that
is
becoming
a
bigger
and
bigger
issue,
and
moving
forward
I
see
that
we
will
probably
become
better
proactively.
Addressing
that.
Thank
you.
B
J
It's
just
a
question
for
council
members
about
you
know
looking
at
the
ordinance
related
to
the
franchise
in
thinking
about
in
section
3,
where
it
talks
about
leaving
the
streets,
alleys
and
other
public
places
where
such
work
is
done
in
as
good
condition
that
or
repair
as
they
were
before
the
work
begin.
Whether
we
might
ask
the
tree
Commission
to
come
up
with
some
language
about
the
NZ
standards
and
about
the
potential
for
increased
hazard
from
the
trees
being
less
structurally
sound,
something
that
we
might
be
able
to
amend
this
to
refer
to
those
recommendations.
D
In
closing,
we
hope
we've
addressed
all
your
questions
tonight
and
we
would
like
to
keep
the
communications
over
open,
continue
to
keep
them
open
and
perhaps
expand
them.
We
like
to
deal
or
work
with
council
or
committees
of
your
choice
or,
however,
you
want
to
do
it
in
order
to
maybe
try
to
identify
the
load
load
issues
at
this
point.
We
hope
we've
satisfied
you
at
least
at
this
stage
and
hopefully
keep
the
communications
open
in
the
future
and
be
able
to
address
these
issues
as
time
goes
by
your
satisfaction.
Okay,
thank
you.
So.