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A
A
A
As
anyone
else
is
there
a
second,
then
all
in
favor
all
right.
A
There's
four
voting
for
and
one
who
doesn't
vote
on
it.
Okay,
let's
see
first
case
is
case
number
17-04,
that's
title:
43
wireless
telecommunications,
20a
monticello
drive
a
t
and
t
modification
on
existing
tower.
Mr
siroi,
yes
good
afternoon.
D
D
D
After
a
review
of
the
documents
it
was
determined
and
that
it
met
with
code
requirements
under
title
facts.
The
applicant
is
new,
singular
wireless
jacobs,
telecommunications
property
owners
will
be
management.
Company
of
297,
south
cassidy,
avenue,
bexley,
ohio
site
location
is
20a.
Monticello
drive
in
athens
taxmatt
parcel
is
a
as
an
alpha:
zero,
two
nine
zero
four
zero:
zero
zero
one:
five
zero
zero,
the
zoning
is
r
three.
The
estimated
value
of
improvement
is
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
A
D
The
title
43
wireless
communications
reviews,
verizon
wireless
on
20
monticello,
drive,
28
monticello
drive
in
accordance
with
the
adsense
city
code,
4307
special
use
permit
application.
Verizon
wireless
is
proposing
to
upgrade
their
system
on
the
existing
telecommission
site.
The
scope
of
workload
consists
of
the
following
swapping
of
six
existing
panel
antennas,
adding
three
new
panel
antennas
swapping
three
existing
remote
radio
heads
adding
six
new
panel
antennas,
swapping
three
existing
equipment
mounts
adding
one
new
ovp
distribution
box.
That's
an
overprotection
voltage
protection
box.
D
This
new
request
involves
an
existing
195
foot
tower
that
should
be
190
foot,
tar,
correction,
modification
modifying
the
platform
at
the
175
foot
level.
No
changes
to
the
height
of
the
footprint
of
the
tower
will
be
made.
Proper.
Supporting
documents
were
provided
for
the
structural
analysis
of
the
wind
and
foundation
requirements.
D
After
a
review
of
documents,
it
was
determined
that
it
met
with
code
requirements
under
title
43..
The
applicant
is
verizon
wireless
rich
hanson
is
the
agent
at
18
able
road
in
bridgeville,
pa
property
owner
is
willowby
management
company.
The
tower
owner
is
sba
communication
again,
the
site
location
is
28,
monticello
drive
in
athens
and
the
parcel
number
is
a
as
an
alpha:
zero,
two
nine
zero
four
thousand
one:
five:
zero
zero.
A
Absolutely
okay,
a
second
all
in
favor
aye,
that's
unanimous
and
finally
case
number
1706,
title
43
wireless
telecommunications,
30
park,
place,
alden
library,
verizon
modification
on
existing
rooftop
sled
mount
mr
surrey.
B
I
don't
believe
they
have
it,
but
I
do
have
an
email
I
sent
it
to
patty.
I
was
just
going
to
convey
it
that
ohio
university
david
ivarian
from
real
estate
division.
We
have
reviewed
the
alden
library
cell
tower
information
internally
and
have
no
issues
with
the
project
moving
forward.
Please
accept
this
email
as
approval
from
a
high
university.
B
A
Just
for
our
television
audience
did
you
want
to
review
the
yes,
sir?
Okay,
thank
you.
D
The
project
description
is
a
verizon
wireless
modification
on
an
existing
rooftop
sled
mount.
The
sled
is
located
on
the
rooftop
of
the
building.
The
existing
verizon
wireless
equipment
is
to
be
replaced
at
the
80-foot
level.
Proposed
scope
of
work
consists
of
the
following
removal
of
three
existing
antennas,
actually
reducing
the
number
of
antennas
from
12
to
nine
installation
of
three
wcs
band,
rh8
rrhs
installation
of
three
new
over
voltage
protection
boxes.
D
No
changes
to
the
footprint
of
the
sled
will
be
made.
This
application
is
similar
to
auto
modification
on
stud
applications
on
other
buildings.
Proper
sporting
documents
were
provided
for
the
structural
analysis
of
wind
and
foundation
requirements.
After
a
review
of
documents,
it
was
determined
that
it
met
with
the
code
requirements
under
title
43
facts.
The
applicant
is
verizon
wireless
pyramid,
network
services,
llc
and
brian
glaridin
is
the
agent
property
owner
of
ohio
university.
D
A
Any
questions
or
comments:
okay,
does
someone
want
to
make
a
motion
on
that
I'll
move
in
a
second
okay,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye,
unanimous.
Thank
you,
mr
sirois
communications.
A
A
Okay,
so
move
those
two
as
first
and
second
and
then
the
wireless
communications
at
the
bottom
right:
okay,
I'll,
second,
that
all
in
favor
nice,
that's
unanimous,
so
title
21,
lot,
split,
wanda
cash,
46
canterbury,
drive
application
for
a
lot
split
and
slash
and
transfer
denied
march
22
2017..
Mr
siroi.
D
Yes,
commissioners,
this
was
a
requested
lot
split
on
46
hanneberry
drive.
D
The
reason
for
denial,
as
indicated,
was
the
lack
of
road
frontage
and
also
it's
irregular
a
lot.
The
reply:
what
are
they
trying
to
do?
Appeal
has
been
submitted
and
that
will
be
presented
at
the
next
meeting.
D
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Title
21
lot,
split
jack,
stopher,
124
and
128
north
lancaster,
mr
cerroy.
B
I
mean
you
know
we
have
the
letter
from
the
attorney
and
then
we
have,
of
course,
the
code
director's.
D
A
Okay,
so
the
title
21
lot
split
jack
style
for
124
and
128
north
lancaster.
Did
we
do
that?
One
I've
lost
my
place
here.
A
Okay,
that's
your
staff
right
now.
This
is
an
odd
squad.
Split!
Okay!
Could
you
state
your
name
and
your
address?
Please.
F
F
F
Okay,
yeah
you've
got
my
application,
and
then
I
made
a
drawing
at
the
code
office's
request
of
the
existing
property
and
the
existing
structures
in
regards
to
location
on
the
existing
lot
and
existing
front
and
side
setbacks
on
the
first
piece
of
paper
that
says
existing
in
the
upper
left
hand
corner
in
the
second
drawing
which
says
proposed
in
the
upper
left
hand.
Corner
is
a
drawing
that
I
made
at
the
request
of
the
code
office
showing
the
additional
information.
F
F
D
This
is
why
it's
an
odd
one
for
us
in
the
way
in
the
way
it's
being
split
also
and
then
the
other.
If
I
may
wait,
I
mentioned
a
couple
comments
again.
This
is
just
a
presentation.
I
met
with
andy
stone,
the
city
engineer
and
I
presented
some
drawings
to
you,
which
mr
software
has
also
the
orange
lines,
indicate
the
seating,
sewer,
sanitation.
D
B
I'm
just
I
have
met
with
jack
and
I'm
concerned
now
about
the
non-conformity.
B
Does
that
then
kick
in
and
once
again
that
if
you
go
to
develop
that
in
terms
of
bringing
into
conformance
we're
seeking
a
variance.
H
F
F
I
do
not
meet
the
front
setback
at
this
time
and
I'm
don't
meet
the
left
set
back
at
this
time,
because
it's
11
feet,
9
inches
and
not
12
feet.
C
G
B
C
C
And
so
what
I'm
is?
So,
if
you
know
the
side,
setbacks,
there's
probably
not
a
lot
you
can
do
about
at
this
point,
the
front
setback,
if
you
rebuilt,
potentially
the
the
structure,
could
be
built
to
conform
to
the
front
setback,
and
if,
if
you
know,
if
the
proportions
on
these
drawings
are
close,
it
looks
like
there
would
be
enough
room,
even
with
the
lot
splits
to
to
push
the
structure
back,
to
meet
the
front
setback
and
still
maintain
a
30-foot
rear
setback.
Correct.
Is
that
essentially,
what
you're
seeing
correct?
Okay,
that.
B
Know
places
that
you
know
were
built
long
before
that
those
codes
changed.
G
G
Sewer
is
what
I'm
looking
at
is,
and
so
I
guess
this
is
a
question
because
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
the
code
knows
this
right
now.
I'm
curious
as
I'm
looking
at
this
map
that
what
you've
provided
to
us,
the
aerial
gis
is
what
appears
to
be
maybe
130
or
132
134
mound
street
lancaster,
and
if
you
go
north
of
that
towards
mound
street
there's
those
two
residences.
G
F
F
If,
if
I
could,
let
me
just
go
ahead
and
read
my
prepared
statement
for
addressing
the
lot
split
and
then
my
prepared
statement
in
regards
to
the
lack
of
the
sewer
line
in
front
of
the
proposed
lot,
because
it
will
at
least
give
my
perspective
and
then
possibly
answer
some
of
your
concerns,
and
then
we
can
go
from
there.
That's
okay.
F
Yes,
I
come
before
you
to
talk
about
124
and
128.
North
lancaster,
like
I
said
there
is
no
126..
You've
got
the
drawings.
We've
talked
about
that.
I
purchased
the
properties
in
the
80s
I
purchased
128
north
lancaster
first
and
then
a
year
or
so
later
after
having
it
completely
remodeled.
I
bought
the
house
next
door
124.
F
from
early
on.
My
thought
in
the
future
would
be
to
split
off
and
develop
this
new
lot.
That
would
face
mouse
street
as
I
prepared
to
downsize
my
workload,
realizing
that
age
is
becoming
a
factor,
I
thought
and
am
now
considering
and
preparing
to
sell
the
houses
at
124
and
128
north
lancaster
street.
F
F
F
F
F
So
I
thought-
and
I
asked
mr
sirois
when
I
could
talk
to
him
and
see
the
picture
and
he
said
how
about
two
o'clock.
I
said
okay
and
that's
when
I
showed
up
at
mr
sirois's
office.
In
the
meantime,
I
drove
over
to
mount
street
got
out
and
tried
to
refresh
my
memory
of
the
situation.
F
There
is
a
manhole
in
front
of
I
didn't
write
it
down,
but
there
is
a
manhole
in
front
of
50
mound
street,
I'm
assuming
because
I
didn't
pop
the
lid,
I'm
assuming
that
goes
down
over
the
hill
into
the
valley,
between
behind
the
houses
that
face
mound
street
on
the
east
side
and
the
valley,
that's
behind
the
houses
on
the
west
side
of
north
congress.
I
know
there's
a
ceremony
down
to
there,
because
I
had
a
lot
of
work
on
congress
street
back
in
those
days.
F
B
F
Don't
know
mr
stafford
thinks
he
finds
himself
in
a
situation
unique
to
somebody
coming
in
here
and
wanting
to
do
a
subdivision.
I'm
not
wanting
to
do
a
subdivision,
I'm
not
putting
in
a
subdivision,
I'm
not
putting
in
sewers
and
water
lines
and
curbs
and
streets.
I'm
merely
trying
to
utilize
to
my
financial
benefit,
all
of
my
property.
F
It
will
also
provide
an
opportunity
for
somebody
to
be
able
to
purchase
a
lot
at
a
relatively
low
cost
in
the
inner
city.
The
fact
that
the
city
didn't
have
the
foresight
to
put
a
sewer
line
down
the
entire
street
and
took
the
easiest
route
or
the
most
logical
route
to
accommodate
the
houses
that
were
there
at
that
time.
F
F
G
My
question
the
reason
I
raised
that
is,
I'm
clearly
you're
aware
of
the
fact
that
there
is
no
sewer
back
there.
I'm
just
saying
it
because
you're
the
one
who
you're
the
one
who
indicated
that
you
were
looking
to
possibly
develop
if
this
lot
split
goes
through.
So
it's
it's
not
contingent
through
my
lens
on
the
lot
split
and
what
you
want
to
do.
It's
just
making
sure
that
you're
aware
that
there
is
no
sewer
and
clearly
you
are
that
runs
down
through
that
area.
G
These
aren't
brand
new
sewers
that
run
through
this
area,
and
it
was
largely
because,
looking
at
this
gis
through
you
know
that
I've
seen
for
the
first
time
now
many
of
your
neighboring
parcels
on
the
mound
street
side.
You
know
for
parcels
that
go
between
north
lancaster
and
mound
street
also
don't
have
sewer,
but
there's
also
no
home.
So
these
were.
These
were
plots
that
were
built
on
it's
a
natural
gravity
feed
the
direction
of
which
flow
goes.
Hence
my
initial
question-
and
this
is
more
for
for
the
the
code
office.
G
The
director
of
code
is,
I
guess,
for
my
own
edification
at
some
point
in
time
is
to
identify.
You
know
where
are
the
sewer
hookups
for
these,
the
west
properties
that
are
on
this
map?
I.
F
F
F
If
mr
royce
gave
you
the
the
white
map
that
shows.
No,
if
that's
all
you
have
you
don't
have
it
yeah.
I've
got
it
over
here.
Maybe
he's
got
it
over
there,
but
right
next
door
to
my
128
property
is
flamed
against
property.
That
also
goes
clear
to
mound
street
and
then
the
next
two
lots
over
appear
to
have
been
split
down.
The
middle
and
newer
homes
built
there
newer
being
25
30
35
years
ago,
based
on
looking
at
their
structure
also
to
the
south
side
of
my
property.
F
B
I
I
would
like
to
talk
about
that
planning
commission
numbers,
because
I
believe
that
we
have
included
in
the
past
and
other
minor
subdivisions
that
have
come
to
us,
directing
them
from
the
city
engineer
about
where
they
would
either
have
to
obtain
water
or
sewer.
Geysers
comes
to
mind
that
place
of
peach
ridge,
and
you
know-
and
we
clearly
include
that,
because
if
you
make,
I
I'm
not
sure
that
they
can
indeed
be
separated.
I
guess
I'm
asking.
I
know
this
is
just
communication,
so
we're
just
discussing
so
no.
B
H
H
H
C
E
F
C
C
And
what
I'm
saying
is
that
I
don't
think
like
what
you're
proposing
doesn't
change
doesn't
increase
the
non-conformity
in
terms
of
setbacks.
So
that
is
not
an
issue.
But
what
you're,
proposing
if
800
square
feet,
is
the
requirement
for
a
lot
size
you're
proposing
to
take
two
lots
that
at
this
point
meet
that
requirement
and
and
bring
them
into
non-conformance,
essentially
like
they
will
be
under
both
the
both
the
two
existing
lots.
When
you
break
off
the
back
portion
will
be
less
than
eight
hundred
square
feet.
C
F
F
F
C
C
E
Got
two
questions
and
I've
also
got
a
comment:
don
harth,
I
think,
built
those
two
houses.
E
F
That's
the
reason
that
I
didn't
come
to
you
wanting
to
squeeze
two
50
foot
wide
lots
like
those
other
three
houses
that
are
we
assumed
by
harsh
criddler.
That's
the
reason
I
didn't
come
to
propose
to
maybe
maximize
my
potential
profit
because
of
the
topography.
It
seemed
to
me
to
be
completely
logical.
To
have
one
lot
created.
F
Eight
thousand
square
feet
make
it
100
foot
wide,
so
the
driveway
you
know
a
lot
can
be
done
with
a
bulldozer
and
some
concrete
or
a
backhoe
and
some
concrete
to
bring
the
that
will
allow
the
driveway
to
come
in
on
some
sort
of
a
what
I
will
refer
to
as
a
45
degree
angle.
Some
angle,
so
it's
not
you
know,
doesn't
create
a
steep
driveway
or
a
dangerous
driveway.
F
Well,
it
looks
I
mean
I
didn't
pop
the
manhole
off
in
front
of
50
mound
street
and
when
I
say
50
mound
street
50
mound
street
is
not
the
potential
cradler
house.
It's
the
old
existing
house
on
the
east
side
of
mount
street.
That
is
number
50.,
but
just
using
logic.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
more
than
likely,
the
harsh
criddler
house
on
the
south
end
of
what
we're
talking
about
or
nearest
downtown,
probably
goes
directly
into
that
manhole.
That's.
F
I
didn't
open
the
manhole
to
look
okay
and
I
didn't
see
a
manhole
down
on
what
I
would
refer
to
as
the
north
end
of
mound
street.
I
don't
know-
and
I
didn't
see
a
clean
out
for
that
for
either
one
of
those
little
houses
down
there.
I
saw
the
water
meters,
but
I
didn't
see
the
clean
outs,
but
apparently
they
tie
into
the
city
main.
Is
it
because
that's
accurate
or
somewhat
accurate.
E
I
just
wondered
as
another
piece
of
information
I'd
like
I
guess
is
I'd
like
to
see
a
slope
map.
This
reminds
me
a
lot
of
my
backyard
jack.
Well,
I
you
know-
and
I
I
don't
really.
I
think
it
would
enhance
our
understanding
of
what's
going
on
because
I've
heard
beverly
say
that
she'd
like
to
do
this
too,
and
I
think
that
you
know
you
do
have
potential
along
that
street.
E
F
E
E
E
F
F
Let
me
ask
one
more
question:
sure:
okay,.
F
I'm
I'm
still
unclear
as
to
what
what
who's
going
to
do,
what
first
or
next
or
what
my
procedure
is.
But
what
has
now
become
a
concern
for
me
beyond
wanting
to
be
able
to
develop.
This
lot
is
the
fact
there's
no
sewer
line
under
the
street,
which
I
think
you
would
find
on
most
city
streets
in
the
city
of
athens,
that
a
sewer
line
goes
the
entire
length
of
the
street.
F
B
B
B
B
B
So
I
I
think
that
we
need
the
answers
to
this
variance
issue
and
non-conformance,
and
so
we
can
work
on
that
and
provide
some
direction
back
to
mr
stauffer
and
I
can
get
you
know
the
written
recommendation
from
the
city
engineer
regarding
the
sewer.
F
Let
me
say
one
more
thing
because,
because
now
I'm
okay
does
he
know
that
I
want
to
remain
professional
and
polite,
but
I
got
to
make
my
point
when
I
went
to
the
code
office,
I
was
told
I
needed
to
have
a
survey
done
before.
I
could
even
address
this
body
which
I'm
not
a
lawyer.
A
Well,
I
think
paula
has
spoken
as
far
as
the
city
is
concerned
there,
so
those
options
have
been
laid
out
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
then
it
would
seem
that
you
need
to
have
a
resolution
between
yourself
and
code
as
far
as
how
that
might
proceed.
You
know,
along
with
the
variances
before
really
coming
back
here,.
A
So,
in
other
words,
these
other
these
other
matters
seem
to
be
interlocked
with
the
lot
split
at
this
point,
and
I
would
think
then
that
those
issues
need
to
be
addressed
before
we
probably
can
address
the
the
lot
split
itself
that
be
correct.
B
D
Yes,
we're
planning
to
present
menards
at
the
april
20th
meeting.
Originally
I
had
scheduled
for
the
sixth.
We
were
waiting
for
some
reports
from
them,
so
the
current
plan
is
to
present
menards
at
the
april.
20Th
planning,
commission
meeting.
Okay
plus
we
have
some
vca
at
the
next
vca
meeting,
also
is
between
now
and
then
and
they're
going
to
be
going
to
that.
B
A
Okay,
yes
see
the
title:
43
wireless
telecommunications,
36,
south
court
street
ou
campus
rooftop
sled
mounted.
D
Yes,
this
is
another,
is
communications
for
another
modification.
It
was
addressed
that
this
is
not
an
ohio
university
property.
It
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
the
service
director
and
the
city
planner
this.
So
yes,
this
is
just
another
modification
of
a
sled
rooftop
sled
and
will
be
presented
for
negative
for
case
next.
A
Thank
you,
christy.
Also,
the
horvath
communications
title
43
update.
D
B
Well,
I
feel
like
we
need
to
review
that.
I
just
printed
mine
out
this
morning.
At
least
you
know
going
through
the
list,
but
maybe
we
do
that
at
the
next
meeting.
I
also
have
a
communique
if
I
may
pass
out
today
from
david
ovarian
of
ohio
university,
showing
a
graphic
of
the
options
available
in
the
area
that
could
be
evaluated
and
not
as
obtrusive
as
fairgrounds
property
offering
their
new
campus
spoiler.
They
show
existing
site
and
pursue
site
plans
that
feel
that
it
might
accommodate
who
gets
to
see
them.
B
D
A
Anything
else
on
that
chris
or
paul.
That
would
conclude
communications.
Then
report
from
the
city
planner,
mr
logue.
A
Christy,
are
you
good
we're
good?
That's
fine.
H
But
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about
briefly
was
comprehensive
plan,
update,
which
is
I've
been
mentioning
we're
going
to
begin
in
2017,
which
is
this
year.
Can
I
get
the
powerpoint
up
there?
We
go.
E
H
H
What
I
would
like
to
do
just
just
a
little
bit
of
background
when
we
did
our
last
plan,
there
was
a
considerable
amount
of
city
financial
resources
that
were
appropriated
and
spent
to
do
that
comprehensive
plan.
My
understanding
is,
it
was
anywhere
from
250
000
up
to
maybe
400
000
dollars
to
cover
the
cost
of
that
plan.
H
We're
not
going
to
do
that
this
time,
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
it
a
lot
more
streamlined
and
efficient
with
cost,
and
so
most
of
this
work
we're
going
to
be
doing
in-house.
I've
got
some
small
funding,
much
appreciated
from
city
council
to
bring
in
some
interns
and
bring
in
some
part-time
staff
to
assist
with
a
lot
of
the
work,
but
we're
gonna.
Do
it
almost
all
in
houses
this
time?
So
what
do
we
need
to
do
for
a
new
plan?
H
H
We
want
people
to
be
open-minded
and
challenge
each
other
to
try
something
new
and
think
about
our
community
in
different
ways.
Process
is
pretty
simple
start
with
a
vision.
Do
some
visioning
sessions
with
this
with
the
community
I've
identified,
ideally,
I'd
like
to
work
with
the
athens
foundation.
They've
got
they've
done
some
visioning
in
the
past
that
I'm
discussing
how
we
can
work
with
them
to
create
a
visioning
session.
H
Take
a
vision,
get
a
draft
division
established,
begin
building
a
plan
working
within
our
neighborhoods
within
our
corridors
and
within
groups
to
find
out
how
to
get
us
towards
that
vision.
As
a
community
revise
the
plan,
revise
our
draft,
etc
and
then
move
from
draft
to
an
adopted
plan.
H
I
couldn't
find
a
good
image
for
adoption,
so
I
found
a
picture
of
my
dog
because
she's
a
she
was
adopted
the
comprehensive
plan
for
a
vision.
What
does
the
vision
do
versus
the
plan?
A
lot
of
people
get
confused
and
it
may
not
be
very
clear,
but
we
want
the
vision
will
drive,
it
gives
the
plane
drive
and
direction.
It
sets
the
standard
kind
of
our
goal
or
what
we
dream
of
a
city
on
the
hill.
H
H
Does
that
fit
within
the
vision
that
we've
established
and
if
not,
we
probably
should
talk
about
other
policies
that
bring
us
back
to
the
vision
or
say
is:
is
this
our
actual
vision
or
is
our
did
our
vision
change
from
when
we
started
the
plan
to
when
we
got
towards
the
end?
So
we
may
have
to
revise
that
as
well,
and
then
the
vision
would
explain
why
the
plan
is
the
plan.
It
basically
gives
it
justification
more
on
the
vision
at
our
yardstick.
H
It
helps
us
to
make
group
decision
making
create
new
answers
to
existing
problems.
It
gets
us
towards
consensus
and
it
sets
the
tone
for
what
to
do
not
how
to
do
it.
The
plan
will
tell
us
how
to
do
it.
You
can't
read
this
very
well,
probably
on
your
handout
or
up
there.
H
The
vision
also
embraces
the
importance
of
stable
and
appealing
neighborhoods
preserved
historic
sites
and
a
unique
sense
of
place
and
urban
character,
woven
together
with
a
transportation
system
that
includes
automobiles,
transit,
pedestrians
and
bicycle
movement.
So
it's
all
the
way
back
in
2006..
H
When
you
look
through
our
plan,
I
I
think
it
does
a
really
good
job
of
reflecting
back
on
that
vision,
even
though
the
vision
is
kind
of
buried
in
there,
and
I
think
we've
actually,
if
you
think
about
athens
today
versus
2006,
a
lot
of
the
policies
and
things
we've
implemented,
city-wide
really
do
fall
in
line
with
that
vision.
H
Surprisingly
enough,
jack's
not
here
anymore,
but
he
said
he
hadn't
read
the
plan
so,
okay,
so
now
the
difference
between
the
vision
and
the
plan.
The
plan
is
the
document
that
lays
out
the
implementation
of
the
vision,
ideally
we're
going
to
give
recommendations
that
can
be
implemented
through
legislative
and
administrative
policies
such
as
zoning,
public
improvements,
development
policies,
etc,
and,
if
nothing
else,
we'll
have
a
timeline
for
action
that
identifies
short,
mid
and
long
range
goals.
H
H
The
plan
should
identify
the
solutions
to
the
problems,
ideally
or
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
have
a
plan
that
focuses
on
our
neighborhoods
and
corridors
as
well
as
key
issues
such
as
housing,
growth
and
redevelopment,
the
environment
and
urban
design.
Now,
that's
me,
those
are
housing,
growth,
redevelopment,
environment,
urban
design.
That's
me
already
setting
in
my
head
what
I
think
we'll
be
talking
about,
but
it's
very
possible
when
we
go
through
the
visioning
that
we'll
learn
that
those
aren't
priorities
for
a
plan.
H
H
We
vary
a
little
bit
from
city
to
city
and
town
to
town
with
with
with
what
our
problems
are
and
what
our
goals
are.
But
you
know
housing
and
redevelopment
and
design
and
aesthetics.
Those
are
all
things
that
people
talk
about
how
our
built
environment
looks
and,
of
course,
how
our
natural
environment
interacts
too
a
little
bit
more
just
again,
I
don't
know
if
I
need
to
bore
you
with
this,
but
a
difference
between
a
vision
and
a
plan.
In
short,
revision
is
our
dream,
and
the
plan
is
our
blueprint.
H
And
then
there's
a
few
other
different
ideas
of
of
how
how
they
differ
and
what
what
traits
we're
trying
to
get
from
a
vision
versus
our
plan
and
then
the
plan
and
the
vision
interact.
The
plan
moves
us
towards
the
vision,
the
vision
and
the
plan
they
feed
off
each
other
and
they
support
each
other
during
a
planning
process.
We
need
to
revisit
the
vision
to
make
sure
it
is
in
line
with
what
is
possible
and
our
vision
should
be
a
stretch
but
reachable
if
we
don't
think
it's
attainable.
H
We
should
probably
talk
about
what
might
be
reachable
if
we
really
work
towards
it
and
a
key
part
of
any
planning
process
is
going
to
be
public
engagement.
Now,
when
we
did
the
plan
back
in
2006
from
the
planning
process,
you
know
the
internet
and
using
online
surveys
and
those
type
of
things
was
a
very
nascent
technology.
H
H
When
we
did
the
2006
survey
or
planning
we
actually,
a
big
cost
was
doing
telephone
survey
work.
You
had
to
do
pay
people
to
call
and
then
ask
questions
over
the
phone
and
they
did
about.
I
think,
a
thousand
telephone
surveys.
That's
not
cheap
work
to
do
that
professionally,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
they
invested
in.
We
don't
need
to
do
that
now.
Nobody's
gonna
answer
the
phone.
Anyway,
we
just
had
a
connect,
ohio
meeting,
intelligent
communities
meeting
and
the
gentleman
stu
nicholson,
who
runs,
connect,
ohio.
H
He
said
people
don't
if
they
have
a
landline
in
2017.
Nobody
answers
their
phone
after
the
last
election
because
they
were
we
got
as
ohioans.
We
were
so
inundated
with
survey
and
push
calls
and
all
that
for
the
presidential
election
that
we're
just
we
don't
we
don't
answer
it.
I
know
I
don't
answer
my
phone
unless
I
know
who's
calling
so
public
engagement,
we're
going
to
do
public
forums,
of
course,
that
some
of
those
will
be
city
wide.
H
H
H
It
gives
another
opportunity
pop-up
engagement,
that
just
means
kind
of
stopping
people
on
the
street,
asking
them
for
a
few
minutes
to
fill
out
information
having
interns
or
somebody
standing
at
in
front
of
the
courthouse
or
in
front
of
city
hall
or
at
the
community
center
or
a
football
game,
or
something
just
trying
to
get
people
to
spend
a
few
minutes
with
us
to
give
us
some
information
online
surveys.
Of
course,
social
media
using
facebook
and
instagram
are
really
effective
ways
to
get
outreach
and
get
information
back.
H
H
They
gave
hundreds
if
not
more
disposable
cameras
and
asked
people
to
go
around
to
their
neighborhoods
and
take
pictures
of
what
they
liked,
what
they
didn't
like.
What
was
good,
what
was
better,
what
was
bad
and
document
all
that,
and
I
mean
I've
got
in
my
office.
I
think
I
have
thousands
of
photographs
from
that,
so
they
paid
to
get
the
cameras
they
and
then
they
pay
to
develop
all
that
film.
Now
we
can
basically
do
the
exact
same
task,
but
people
can
do
it
on
their
phones
and
they
can
give
us
that
information.
H
H
I
did
that
last
year
and
my
challenge
for
the
day
was
to
go
without
vision
or
to
be
vision,
impaired
worse
than
I
am
with
my
glasses,
some
people
they
do
go
in
a
wheelchair.
So
that's
a
way
for
you
to
better
understand
the
your
community
and
how
you
can
get
around
if
you
have
a
mobility
problem
or
you
know
mental
health
situation,
and
so
you
can
then
experience
that
and
provide
information
back
about
looking
at
your
community
in
a
way
that
you
hadn't
considered
it
previously.
H
You
might
ask
somebody
to
go
without
a
vehicle.
Go
without
a
car
for
a
week,
tell
us
how
they
got
around
or
what
challenges
they
interacted
with
or
even
for
a
day
or
just
walk
for
a
day.
Don't
drive,
maybe
go
walk
around
a
neighborhood
or
go
into
a
neighborhood
that
you
typically
don't
go
in
and
walk
around
it
and
try
to
learn
about
it
and
give
us
feedback
about
what
you
think
is
good
or
bad
or
what
could
be
improved.
H
So
we
have
new
sets
of
eyes
on
in
our
community
and
then
we'll
do
a
steering
committee,
of
course,
steering
committee
what
we've
identified.
I
say
we,
but
it's
been
mostly
me
at
this
point.
I
have
been
working
with
mayor
patterson
and
council
planning
and
development
chair
chris
fall
as
well
steering
committee
about
25
people.
Roughly,
we've
identified
one
seat
from
each
boarding
commission
of
the
city
being
on
the
steering
committee,
so
the
planning
commission
would
have
one
representative
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
H
Would
the
shay
treat
commission
et
cetera,
they
would
all
have,
and
then
we've
identified
other
people
around
the
community,
who
may
also
have
a
lot
of
information
or
knowledge
will
be
experts
on
issues.
A
realtor,
for
example,
might
be
very
beneficial
to
have
relating
to
housing
and
development
landlord.
H
H
I
would
we
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
starting
back
in
2016,
basically
starting
by
convening
a
steering
committee
towards
the
end
of
this
month,
doing
visioning
workshops
in
may
and
june
getting
a
vision,
getting
a
vision
drafted
by
the
end
of
june
2017
and
then
starting
a
social
media
and
social
and
survey
launch
in
june,
starting
our
doing
a
lot
of
the
districts
and
the
neighborhood
meetings,
etc
june
through
september.
H
Getting
a
final
plan
presented
to
the
planning
commission
and
to
council
in
january
of
that
says
january
2017,
but
it
should
be
2018
having
a
final
plan
adopted
in
february
2018
and
then
getting
a
implementation
committee
convened
in
march
of
2018..
So
it's
a
pretty
aggressive
timeline.
I
actually
bumped
it
out
by
about
three
months.
Just
yesterday
when
I
was
looking
through
this,
I
was
thinking
possibly
getting
it
done
by
the
end
of
this
year,
but
I
don't
think
that's
very
possible.
H
Even
this
is
pretty
aggressive
but
kind
of
going
back
to
that
vision.
That's
aggressive,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
stretch,
but
it's
reachable.
I
guess-
and
I
mentioned
steering
committee
either
but
as
well,
but
the.
H
Responsibilities
of
the
steering
committee
would
be
to
attend
meetings,
of
course,
and
provide
public
representation
if
needed,
but
also
as
as
we
go
through
the
process,
and
we
hear
from
people
that
there's
specific
issues
that
come
up.
Maybe
it's
an
issue
that
we
think
needs
a
little
bit
more
exploration.
We've
heard
it
in
a
few
different
neighborhoods
or
something.
H
So
we
would
ask
the
steering
committee
or
some
volunteers
from
the
steering
committee
to
convene
some
sort
of
an
ad
hoc
committee
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
an
issue,
maybe
something
that
is
controversial
or
we
can't
reach
consensus
on
an
issue.
I
know
we've
heard
about
several
times
that
the
planning
commission
in
a
city
staff
has
been
like
bed
and
breakfast
and
how
to
address
that.
H
Well,
maybe
maybe
representatives
from
the
steering
committee
can
take
a
deeper
dive
into
that
and
then
see
if
there
is
a
way
to
get
consensus
on
a
way
to
get
a
resolution
on
that
or
a
firm
recommendation
on
how
to
address
it
through
our
zoning
code.
Maybe
housing
issues
how
to
get
more
housing
in
the
city.
How
to
explore
subdivision
regulations,
just
like
is,
is
the
8
000
square
foot
requirement.
Is
that
the
right
number,
for
example,
should
we
do?
H
So
the
next
steps,
like
I
talked
about
there,
convening
a
steering
committee
getting
planning
assistance
on
board
starting
our
visioning
session
in
june,
beginning
the
social
media
aspects
and
the
district
workshops
and
the
pop-up
engagement.
A
A
quick
crash
course
any
questions
comments
as
far
as
a
member
representing
the
planning
commission
one
would
you
need
to.
H
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
once
I
want
to
make
sure
I
want
to
give
a
presentation
to
council
as
well
to
make
sure
that
council
is
more
or
less
on
board
with
this
process.
H
It
would
seem
to
me
that
with
the
planning
commission,
since
the
mayor
and
the
safety
director
already
very
active
in
these
issues
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
that
one
of
the
three
citizen
representatives
would
be
would
make
more
sense,
no
offense
to
our
safety
director.
I
think
we
agree
with
that.
It.
A
Okay,
another
comments.
Thank
you,
mr
loeb.
Did
you
have
anything
else
in
terms
of
your
report?
That's
your
work.
Okay,
mr.
D
Sirois
nothing
at
this
time.
Thank
you.