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Description
City of Bend Neighborhood Leadership Alliance Land Use Working Group Meeting for Wednesday, October 7, 2020.
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So
this
is
a
great
time
for
those
of
you
who
are
joining
us
live
in
the
meeting.
If
you
would
like
to
provide
public
comment
on
your
screen,
you
should
see
the
instructions,
so
if
you
can
click
on
the
participants
icon
and
once
that
window
comes
up,
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
right
hand,
side
you'll
find
a
small
hand.
If
you
click
on
that
icon,
you
can
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
call
on
you
in
the
order
that
we
see
hands
being
raised.
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In
order
to
run
an
efficient
meeting.
The
working
group
will
not
respond
to
questions
or
engage
in
discussion
with
speakers
during
the
meeting.
The
working
group
may
follow
up
with
speakers
after
the
meeting.
Please
be
aware
of
the
timer
set
up
for
two
minutes
per
person
and
due
to
the
virtual
nature
of
this
meeting,
we
ask
you
to
keep
track
of
your
time
when
invited
to
comment
begin
by
stating
your
name
and
who
you
are
representing.
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Yeah,
sorry
guys,
carl,
I
assume
you're
here
for
item
for
the
code,
change
recommendations
and
I'm
I'm
not
actually
sure
how
that
discussion
is
going
to
work.
If,
if
the
working
group
wants
to,
if
we're
planning,
to
have
a
dialogue
or
incorporate
feedback
from
karna,
steve
holtberg,
whoever
else
during
that
agenda
item,
so
just
a
suggestion
that
we
consider
that
rather
than
public
comment.
But
that
depends
on
what's
been
decided
about
how
that's
gonna
work.
E
So
yes,
this
is
on
item
four.
I
don't
have
the
agenda.
I
don't
see
the
agenda
on
the
screen
at
the
moment.
I
think
there
are
several
people
that
are
on
the
call
that
would
like
to
comment
on
the
code
changes.
There
were
several
letters
on
public
comment
on
the
code
changes
that
were
submitted
to
pauline
prior
to
this
meeting.
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B
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I
I
am
so
good
afternoon
everybody,
my
name
is
russ
brady.
I
am
the
director
of
the
community
development
department.
I
just
wanted
to
provide
some
context
before
we
turn
it
over
to
other
staff
to
provide
more
of
the
details
of
kind
of
of
how
we
got
here
and
and
what
the
specific
recommendations
are.
So
what
the
reason
we
from
a
staff
perspective
that
we
requested
this
to
be
put
on
the
nla
agenda
was
we
know
that
there
had
been
a
lot
of
robust
discussions
occurring
with
the
nla.
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Our
staff
has
been
involved
in
those
discussions
to
provide
context
around
changes
to
our
notification
process.
Public
comment
process,
which
is
an
objective
of
the
nla
to
to
one,
learn
more
about
the
land
use
process
and
also
provide
feedback
from
the
neighborhood
perspective.
The
neighborhood
association's
perspective
of
how
those,
inter
how
how
they're,
interacting
with
the
land,
use
and
and
the
changes
they
would
like
to
see
in
the
code.
Just
for
the
nla
group
to
know
once
you
know,
we've
been
working
directly
with
noa
on
those
prospective
code
changes.
I
I
The
goal
is
to
get
this
in
front
of
council
before
the
end
of
the
year,
so
that
is,
it
is
moving,
and
you
know
we've
already
sent
notice
to
the
state
about
these
proposed
code
changes,
but
we
thought
it
was
really
important
to
provide
a
space
and
a
form
for
everyone
to
kind
of
hear
what
everyone's
thinking
around
this
we're
gonna.
The
staff's
perspective
on
this
is
we're
here
to
help
to
provide
technical
assistance.
Answer
questions
around
any
of
these
changes.
I
Obviously,
ian
you
heard
from
before
he's
with
our
city
attorney's
office,
he's
here
as
well,
but
pauline
is
going
to
go
over
what
the
code
changes
are
in
the
history
of
everything
and
then
lisa
will
turn
it
back
over
you
to
you
to
facilitate
that
discussion.
Just
know
that
our
staff
is
here
to
help
and
support.
I
Through
this
conversation
we
do
have
representatives
we
did
reach
out,
and
there
are,
I
think,
two
or
three
people
from
the
development
community
that
are
kind
of
representing
the
you
know
what
what
some
of
the
opinions
and
questions
are
coming
from
and
and
forward,
and
they
can
provide
feedback
as
well,
so
I'll
turn
it
back
over.
I
think
at
least
I
think,
probably
go
over
to
pauline
next
to
provide
some
context
about
what
some
of
these
specific
changes
are.
We've
got
some
next
companies.
J
So
I
did
send
that
off
and
then
we
have
a
schedule
for
october.
26Th
would
be
a
work
session
with
the
planning
commission
and
we've
invited
the
members
of
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
bdab
and
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee,
so
it'll
be
similar
to
our
other
work
sessions
with
planning.
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So
one
of
the
one
of
the
items
that
we
thought
would
be
important
is
to
really
talk
about.
How
did
we
get
to
this
point
and
what
kind
of
information
did
we
gather
in
order
to
get
here?
We've
had
multiple
multiple
conversations
with
city
planning
and
staff,
and
this
really
started
back
in
september
of
2018,
so
we're
talking.
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This
has
been
a
two-year
process
for
us
and
we
invited
some
discussions
with
outside
interest
groups
and
in
particular,
we
invited
the
land
use,
chairs,
neighbor
association
roundtable,
which
is
comprised
of
people
that
are
not
necessarily
land
use.
Chairs
and
ben
neighborhood
coalition
was
also
very
instructive
for
us
to
begin
with,
we
went
ahead.
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We
did
a
couple
of
work
sessions
with
the
land
use
chairs
and
we
specifically
talked
about
what
do
we
need
to
do
with
regard
to
education
and
the
notification
issues?
The
education
was
not
just
focused
with
the
land
use
chairs
and
with
the
neighborhood
association
people.
It
was
really
focused
on
how
do
we
educate
citizens
in
their
rights
and
how
do
they
get
involved
in
the
process
and
we'll
be
working
through
some
of
those
education,
materials
and
videos
and
a
whole
slew
of
other
things?
A
I
think
we
have
something
close
to
35
documents
that
we're
looking
at
and
modifying
in
order
to
bring
them
up
to
date
and
then
we'll
be
establishing
some
best
practices
by
neighborhood
associations.
I
think
most
developers
could
say
that
if
they
held
neighborhood
association,
community
meetings
in
one
neighborhood
association
versus
a
different
one
that
they're
not
they,
they
don't
often
run
the
same
way.
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So
we're
looking
for
some
consis
consistency
and
some
best
practices
to
better
train
our
land
use
chairs,
and
then
we
also
conducted
a
land
use
education,
community
survey.
Michaela.
Do
you
remember
how
we
started
crafting
our
education
plan
and
and
coming
up
with
some
ideas
on?
How
can
we
improve
this
process?
And
how
can
we
make
this
better?
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A
Currently,
the
public
comment
is
14
days
and
we're
asking
to
adjust
that
by
two
more
days
what
the
neighborhood
associations
are
finding
is
that
in
some
instances
you
know
the
the
notice
had
been
mailed
to
the
neighborhood
association
address,
and
somebody
may
not
check
that
address.
Maybe
it's
a
ups
box
like
century
west
as
a
p.o
box
at
the
ups
store-
and
you
know
we
didn't
necessarily
check
that
box
every
day,
and
so,
if
that
didn't
happen,
then
our
notice,
our
our
ability
to
get
the
information
out
to
our
members,
was
hampered.
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Can
I
can
I
break
in
for
a
second,
we
also
had.
We
also
had
one
significant
incident
that
came
out
just
before
the
the
christmas
long
weekend
and
and
the
new
year
long
weekend,
so
those
14
days
were
cut
down
to
eight,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
missed
that
we
don't
miss
at
least
one
of
the
weekends.
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A
Initially
we
wanted
this
for
all
applications,
but
that
truly
would
have
been
cost
prohibitive
in
what
we
learned
from
the
staff.
So
if
we're
looking
at
just
type
three
according
to
I
believe,
city
staff,
if
we
look
at
historical
data,
we
might
be
touching
on
about
20
to
25
projects
per
year
is
my
understanding.
So
this
doesn't
affect
that
many,
but
the
benefits
in
terms
of
notifying
all
of
those
people,
I
I
think,
are
going
to
be
felt
in
the
sense
that
you're
going
to
get
better
community
acceptance.
A
A
Sometimes
they
are
tucked
behind
a
dozen
trees.
We've
had
instances
where
maybe
the
sign
was
posted,
but
then
we
got
a
windstorm
the
next
day
and
you
know
so.
The
sign
is
blown
away
because
of
the
quality
of
the
sign,
and
we
just
had
a
lot
of
complaints
around
this.
I
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
pictures
I've
received
from
neighbors
and
even
driving
around
and
looking
at
proposed
developments.
A
A
All
we're
saying
is:
let's
make
it
visible
to
people
from
the
public
right
of
way
and
we
are
looking
at
we.
We
have
changed.
The
signs
and
colin
would
probably
be
the
best
person
to
to
talk
about
this,
but
we're
trying
to
make
them
more
legible,
more
readable,
maybe
draw
a
little
bit
more
attention
to
them,
and
I
think
we've
made
the
signs
look
a
little
bit
more
professional
too
next
slide.
A
With
regard
to
public
meetings
for
the
neighborhood
public
meetings,
we're
looking
at
moving
that
from
a
15-day
minimum
to
a
21-day
notification
for
public
meetings.
We
don't
have
a
state
requirement,
but
we
think
this
could
be
a
significant
benefit
to
our
neighbors
in
our
community
people
these
days.
They
they
just
need
a
little
bit
of
extra
time
around
that
public
meeting
and
what
we're
also
finding
is
that
we're
having
to
educate
a
lot
of
our
members
on
how
to
look
up
information
in
e-plans?
A
J
So
I
emailed
the
a
memo
out
to
the
development
code
update
group
to
get
some
feedback
on
the
proposed
amendments,
and
I
received
a
letter
from
steve
holberg
on
that
and
from
bill
bernardi
and
sharon
smith,
and
then
since
then,
I
believe
they
both
came
in
today.
We
got
a
letter
from
polish
homes
and
aks
engineering
and
forestry.
A
Just
to
kind
of
sum
this
up,
we
believe
that
these
recommend
recommended
changes
will
greatly
improve
the
public
acceptance
of
developer
projects,
so
we're
looking
as
we
know
that
we
needed
to
be
a
partner
in
this
process,
we're
taking
on
a
significant
amount
of
work
and
spending
a
lot
of
energy.
Educating
people
around
these
projects
for,
for
every
large
scale
project,
my
phone
rings
off
the
hook.
K
K
K
What
I
what
I
have
often
seen
is
you
know
very
concerned
neighbors,
who
I
think
are
rightfully
concerned
about,
what's
happening
in
their
neighborhoods,
showing
up
and
and
listing
off
a
bunch
of
concerns
about
neighborhood
character
or
livability.
These
very
subjective
terms,
that
might
mean
very
different
things
to
different
people
and
really
aren't
that
are
not
allowed
to
be
kind
of
the
decision
criteria
that
this
decision
makers
would
look
at
in
deciding
to
approve
or
deny
an
application.
K
K
I
don't
know
that
I
have
a
whole
lot
more
to
say
I,
I
guess
one
one
example.
You
know
I
think,
trying
to
think
about
some
kind
of
creative
solutions
that
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance-
maybe
the
city,
can
could
consider
as
as
maybe
being
an
alternative
kind
of
solution
to
kind
of
what
I
think
is
still
a
little
bit
of
an
undefined
problem.
K
You
know,
one
example
is
that
you
know
back
in
april
we
we
held
a
neighborhood
meeting
on
the
eastern
master
plan,
which
was
just
approved
by
city
council
and
because
of
social
distancing
requirements
and
the
inability
to
meet
in
person.
We
hosted
this
meeting
via
telephone
and
and
zoom
webinar
kind
of
like
what
we're
doing
right
now.
K
Technologies,
platforms
that
provide
flexibility
that
don't
slow
down
projects
that
don't
necessarily
require
increased
costs
for
the
applicant
are
maybe
some
tools
that
could
actually
achieve
the
results
that
the
city
and
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
would
be
looking
for.
It
might
work
better
than
kind
of
the
proposed
text
amendments,
and
so
I
would
just
I
would
just
urge
caution
and
the
amendments
as
I
see
them
are
going
to
delay.
Projects
are
going
to
make
projects
more
more
costly,
and
so
I
I
would
just
urge
caution
in
moving
forward
with
them.
A
K
I've
had
you
know,
seeing
a
long
list
of
people
show
up
to
testify
and
seeing
a
hearing,
officer
or
planning
commission
take
all
this
testimony
and
the
testimony
has
not
actually
been
directed
at
the
decision
criteria
or
or
for
staff.
Staff
generally
tries
to
do
a
really
good
job
of
addressing
public
comments
in
their
staff
reports
and
their
decisions
and
a
lot
of
times
they're
not
even
focused
again
on
on
decision
criteria.
A
A
We
are
are
very
interested
in
weighing
the
cost
versus
the
benefits.
We
think
that
having
educated
neighbors
is
a
significant
benefit
and
part
of
that
education
is
around
letting
them
know
when
they
can
have
some
effect
on
whatever
development
is
being
proposed
and,
conversely,
things
that
they
can't
affect
change,
and
you
know
I
I
think
you've
got
the
land
use
chairs
and
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
that
are
very
invested
in
making
sure
that
those
citizens
are
educated
and
become
better
partners
overall.
E
Thank
you.
My
name
is
connor
gustafsson,
I'm
the
vice
president
of
governor
affairs
for
central
oregon
builders,
association
and
I'm,
I
guess
I'm
a
little
caught
off
guard.
You
said
you
invited
me
previously
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
check
emails,
but
I'm
finding
the
fact
that
the
development
community
wasn't
engaged
earlier
and
this,
as
you
said
that
this
office
has
been
going
on
for
two
years,
that
there
wasn't
a
more
collaborative
discussion
to
come
up
with
these
recommendations.
E
I
believe
that
they're
somewhat
in
the
abstract,
without
knowing
from
the
development
community,
how
much
additional
costs
this
could
could
be
involved
in
this
and
not
actually
having
input
during
the
whole
development
of
these
requirements,
and
I
don't
have
figures
or
numbers
there
are.
I
believe
polish
homes
and
hayden
homes
are
also
on
the
call
as
well,
and
I
don't
think
we've
had
enough
time
to
come
up
with
how
much
this
would
actually
cost
to
development.
E
E
I
also
think
the
email,
the
ability
to
email
these
notices
instead
of
mail
them,
would
be
extremely
helpful
in
addressing
dave's
comment
on
where
you
have
holidays
involved,
or
you
have
people
that
don't
pick
up
their
mail
at
a
mailbox.
I
believe
email
can
provide
those
additional
days
for
your
members
to
to
notice.
I
also
think
you
could
have
a
situation
which
I
believe
already
exists
and
russ.
E
I
just
I
would
like
instead
of
you
know,
just
relying
on
me
to
provide
input.
I
would
like
to
see
additional
developers
in
the
conversation
to
actually
tell
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
on
these
rules
and
what
these
code
changes
would
actually
do
to
individual
developments,
and
then
I
think
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
which
code
changes
are
okay
and
which
ones
are
just
wouldn't
wouldn't
work.
E
A
I
didn't
want
to
cut
you
off,
so
that's
why
I
was
asking
at
this
point.
We
don't
have
the
ability,
with
e-plans,
to
sign
up
to
receive
notices
on
email.
It
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
with
the
new
city
view
and
russ
you're
you're,
welcome
to
to
jump
in
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
we're
hopeful
that
cityview
is
going
to
give
us
that
ability
that
people
can
can
sign
up
and
and
receive
those
notices
without
neighborhoods
having
to
push
this
out.
M
It
was.
It
was
good
to
hear
where
some
of
these
issues
came
from
because
seeing
the
code
changes
just
by
themselves.
It.
I
think
my
first
comment
was:
what
problem
are
we
trying
to
solve
here
and
I
you
know,
I
fully
acknowledge
that
there
may
be
some
sense
that
people
aren't
getting
enough
notice
not
getting
enough
time
to
get
noticed.
M
But
what
a
lot
of
this
seems
to
me
is
education
and
timing
and
work
that
the
neighborhood
associations
and
the
nla
probably
should
undertake
rather
than
extending
the
development
process.
We
were
just
talking
about
email,
notifications
and
things
like
that.
We
there
has
to
be
the
technology
available
where
an
application
comes
in
and
the
nla
gets
notified.
M
M
You
know
two
days
here
two
days
there
a
week
here
doesn't
seem
like
much,
but
I
think
you
have
to
look
at
the
entire
development
process
from
the
the
time
where
someone
devises
a
project,
puts
an
application
together
and
gets
that
neighborhood
meeting
going
until
the
shovel
goes
in
the
ground.
That
is
a
very,
very
long
process,
and
it's
not
just
the
land
use
review
period.
M
You
know
so
adding
you
know
in
particular
the
adding
seven
days
to
the
public
notice.
You
know
I
don't
see
what
benefit
that
provides
at
all,
because
the
meeting
is
going
to
be
held
on
a
certain
date
at
a
certain
time,
and
if
people
can
make
it
they
can
make
it.
I
don't
think
that
seven
days
is
going
to
get
you
anything
other
than
a
delay
on
the
applicant's
part
which
I
just
don't
think
is
warranted
in
this
situation.
M
The
same
with
the
the
type
two
public
comment
adding
two
additional
days
to
that
process.
It's
not
as
I
think
it
was
dave
who
indicated
it's
not
just
really
two
days,
but
then
you've
got
two
weekends.
So
it's
really
two
four,
maybe
six
extra
days
or
three
extra
days.
It's
not
just
two
and
again,
I
think
through
technology
and
notification
is,
we
can
probably
do
a
much
better
job
of
of
notifying
the
public
and
educating
the
public
on
this.
M
The
500-foot
notice.
I
I
I'm
not
gonna,
say
anything
more
than
has
already
said
in
my
comments.
The
land
use
sign
legibility.
I
I
heard
lisa,
I
heard
you
say
it
was
visible
from
five
feet
from
the
right
away.
I
don't
know
what
the
current
standard
is.
What
this
current
proposal
is,
but
legibility
from
the
roadway
should
not
be
a
standard
because
we
are
going
to
be
getting
into
significant
issues
about
well.
Was
it
legible?
I
couldn't
read
it
and
therefore
was
it
valid.
M
Applicants
have
no
control
whether
some
person,
for
whatever
reason,
decides
to
rip
down
a
land
use
sign
and
that
I
think
you
can
have
something
where
the
applicant
has
to
put
it
up
and
then
takes
it
down
after
a
certain
period
of
time.
But
you
cannot
require
someone
to
go
out
there
and
and
monitor
it
and
make
sure
that
it's
legible
at
all
times.
I
I
just
don't
see
that
as
a
feasible
educational
opportunity
and
it's
just
going
to
lead
to
more
problems.
M
M
There's
an
example
of
of
a
woman
who
I've
heard
testify
a
couple
of
times
in
bend
recently
on
land
use
hearings.
Her
heart
is
definitely
in
the
right
spot.
She
she
cares
about
her
community.
She
cares
about
the
environment,
but
she's,
raising
issues
that
just
have
no
relevance
to
the
matter
at
hand,
and
that's
just
something
that
I
see
all
the
time,
and
I
think
that
is
that
those
types
of
issues
are
not
going
to
be
resolved
by
extending
notice
periods
and
deadlines,
and
things
like
that.
M
Those
are
educational
things
that
I
think
the
neighborhood
neighborhood
association
and
the
la
and
la
have
to
take
on
themselves
because
lisa
I
heard
you
say.
I
think
that
the
part
of
the
goal
here
is
to
have
the
community
more
accepting
of
developer
proposals.
Well,
nothing
I
see
here
is
going
to
lead
to
that.
M
What
I
see
it
leading
to
is
perhaps
the
opposite
of
people
giving
more
time
to
say
something
and
then
their
comments
not
being
responded
to
because
they're
just
not
relevant
to
the
approval
criteria
and
it's
just
a
fundamental
mismatch
between
expectations
and
reality,
and
I
I
don't
think
that
that
educational
role,
whether
it's
through
time
or
some
other
fashion,
should
be
put
on
the
backs
of
applicants.
I
think
that
is
a
city
and
neighborhood
association.
M
F
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
just
as
a
just
kind
of
to
help,
you
feel
a
little
bit
more
confident
that
edu
we're
taking
education
very
seriously,
we're
going
to
be
touching
each
one
of
these
items
and
making
sure
that
they're
up
to
date
making
sure
that
they're
still
relevant
and
and
then
figuring
out.
How
do
we
present
these?
Where
are
they
going
to
live,
and
how
do
we
push
this
out
to
the
residents?
A
Karna
also
mentioned
that
she
thinks
that
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
ought
to
be
in
charge
of
education,
and
I'm
so
glad
that
you
guys
are
on
board
with
that.
That
was
what
we
presented
to
the
the
city
council
and
they're
on
board,
and
you
know
it.
This
became
one
of
the
goals,
so
we
take
this
very
seriously,
but
we
we
need
a
few
small
tweaks
to
the
way
that
things
are
being
done.
A
N
Hi
folks,
my
name
is
debbie
duis,
I'm
the
land
use
chair
for
southern
crossing
neighborhood
association.
I'm
really
glad
we're
having
this
dialogue,
I
will
mirror
what
lisa
said.
My
understanding
is
that
the
development
community
was
invited
to
these
meetings,
so
I'm
from
as
frustrated
as
you
are
that
we're
at
this
point
and
are
just
discussing
this
now.
I
just
have
some
notes
here,
I'm
just
going
to
respond
joey.
Well,
I
wanna
I
wanna
mirror
what
lisa
said.
N
First,
everybody
brought
up
education
and
I
completely
agree
with
that,
and
I
just
wanna
emphasize
what
lisa's
saying
is
that
the
nla
land
use
working
group
is
working
on
doing
a
lot
of
education.
We
all
agree,
that's
important,
and
actually
I
would
encourage
the
development
community
if
you're
serious
about
this
to
get
involved
in
helping
with
this
education.
The
more
we
dialogue
with
each
other,
the
better.
I
believe
I
want
to
address
what
joey
was
saying
about
the
cost
benefit.
N
N
A
Thank
you.
Debbie
we've
got
two
more
people
with
their
hands
up
chris
davis
and
jerry
jones
jerry.
I
think
you
were
first
and
I
just
want
to
let
everyone
know.
I
am
mindful
of
the
time
and
I'm
looking
at
our
agenda
and
we're
we're
running
way
past,
and
we
want
to
get
into
this.
This
interactive
map
workshop.
So
I'm
going
to
be
cutting
the
the
comments
off
in
about
five
minutes.
So
jerry
go
ahead.
O
Great
well,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
here
and
sorry.
My
video
is
not
working
or
so
I
would
have
to
have
there,
so
you
can
see
my
face
in
my
office
here,
but
and
I'll
keep
it
brief,
because
I
would
reiterate
almost
exactly
what
joey,
karna
and
steve
had
to
say
and-
and
they
didn't
leave
much
meat
on
the
bone
for
me
here,
but
I
think
from
our
side
from
polish
homes.
O
Aside
as
one
of
the
larger
developers
builders
within
the
city
of
bend,
is
we
haven't
seen
an
issue
in
this,
so
a
lot
of
our
questions
were
like
what
what
is
this
about?
Why
is
this
coming
up
now
and
how
can
we
help
so,
since
we
weren't
a
part
of
this
before
we
are
certainly
raising
our
hand,
high
waving
a
flag
that
says
to
your
your
your
challenge,
debbie,
we
do
want
to
be
involved.
We
will
be
with
you
at
your
next
education
meeting.
O
O
We
we
do
take
that
we,
we
change
some
of
our
stuff
throughout
the
developments
because
of
what
is
said
always
looking
at
the
clear
and
objective
standards.
But
if,
if
there's
been
a
lot
of
work,
that's
been
done,
email,
notifications
now,
then,
maybe
the
the
next
step
isn't
to
create
these
development
code
changes.
Maybe
the
next
step
is
to
take
a
pause.
O
Let's
implement
it,
let's
see
how
that
now
takes
hold
and
then
see
if
this
issue
is
taken
with
that
versus
going
to
the
what
I
call
like
this
extreme
extent
of
development
code
changes
and
not
knowing
the
cost
impact
the
time
impact
to
the
developer.
I
I
could
go
over
a
lot
of
those
things
that
joey
and
steve
had
said.
I
don't
want
to
do
that
for
the
sake
of
everyone's
time.
O
A
Great,
thank
you
joey.
Just
as
a
point
of
clarification,
the
email
notices
are
coming
out
to
the
neighborhood
association,
land
use
chairs
and
in
some
cases
they
are
able
to
forward
them
the
very
same
day.
I
don't
see
that
happen
all
the
time
in
terms
of
the
neighborhood
associations,
I
think
the
best
gosh.
I
want
to
say
that,
to
my
knowledge,
we
might
have
at
best
case
scenario.
A
We
might
have
25
to
30
percent
of
the
emails
within
our
neighborhoods,
so
we're
still
trying
to
make
some
inroads
on
collecting
emails
for
all
of
our
residents
so
that
we
can.
We
can
do
a
much
better
job
of
educating,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
I
know
polish
to
be
an
outstanding
member
of
the
community
and
you
guys
also
you,
you
run
a
great
community
meeting
and
we
sure
appreciate
your
efforts
and
with
that
chris
davis.
P
Yes,
good
afternoon,
everyone
it's
similar
to
jeremy,
I'm
not
sure
how
to
get
my
my
camera
on.
So
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I'm
the
regional
director
for
hayden
holmes
here
in
central
oregon
and
in
trying
to
find
you
know
something
to
kind
of
build
on
to
what
jeremy
and
joey
and
steven
talked
about.
P
I
I
would
definitely
encourage
you,
know
everyone
on
this
call
to
see
if
we
can
work
within
the
time
frames
that
are
already
allowed
within
the
code
because,
similar
to
the
concerns
before
when
we
see
an
extension
of
one
day
two
days
one
week
to
us
that
translates
to
project
delays
which
ultimately
translates
to
increased
cost,
not
fully
understanding
what
the
problem
is.
We're
trying
to
address
similar
to
jeremy
hayden
homes
is
here
to
help.
We
would
like
to
try
to
help
educate,
get
more
involved
with
within
the
time
frame.
P
We
already
have
and
see
if
we
can't
find
a
way
forward.
There
we've
been
here
for
similar
to
polish
over
30
years
in
the
central
oregon
community.
We
value
the
public's
involvement,
we're
highly
involved
in
the
community
in
many
different
ways
and
as
a
builder
developer,
we're
already
dealing
with
delays,
we're
dealing
with
covet
we're
dealing
with
fire
and
smoke
delays
and
then
in
central
oregon.
We
also
have
the
challenge
of
dealing
with
winter
delays,
so
what
may
only
appear
to
be
one
to
two
days?
P
Extension
with
the
land
use
process
or
the
public
notice
period
can
translate
and
snowball
from
there.
So
I
would
just
again
encourage
the
group
to
see
if
we
can't
identify
the
problems
and
then
work
within
the
constructs
of
the
time
frame
already
given
and
try
to
find
a
solution
before
we
implement
or
further
encumber
the
land
use
process.
C
It
turns
out
that
we
had
a
specific
problem
with
the
with
the
jed
with
the
december
25th
january
1st,
and
it
appeared
to
a
lot
of
people
like
the
applicant
was
gaming.
The
system,
and
so
that's
really
are
interested
in
being
able
to
get
the
emails
out
now
is
a
is
a
good
start,
but
to
cut
the
the
response
time
down
to
when
city
of
city
offices
are
open,
it
takes
it
down
to
eight
days.
So
that's
that's!
C
H
H
Initially,
in
some
nla
meetings,
when
the
group
was
being
formed
and
getting
off
the
ground,
I
don't
know
that
was
ever
specifically
invited
to
participate
in
either
the
working
group
process
or
input
on
these
particular
these
ideas
that
have
led
to
some
of
these
code
change
proposals,
so
somebody
may
see
it
differently,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
this
would.
That
was
really
an
issue
of
kind
of
a
misconnection
or
a
missed
opportunity.
H
Now
we're
at
the
point-
as
I
think,
lisa
you'll,
probably
recall
hearing
me,
say
several
times-
that
the
development
community
might
have
some
the
impacts
of
some
of
these
changes
once
we
get
them
boiled
down
to
some
concrete
ideas,
so
that's
been
sort
of
on
the
table
and
in
the
mix
as
something
that
would
need
to
happen
for
a
long
time.
We're
doing
that
now
now
is
the
opportunity
for
people
to
hear
some
different
perspectives.
H
D
D
A
Thank
you
juan.
I
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
developer
and
coba
representatives
that
showed
up
today
to
participate
in
this
discussion
and
we'll
be
talking
about
your
input
and
I'm
sure
this
won't
be
the
last
discussion
we
have
with
all
of
you.
So
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
michaela.
B
N
Q
Q
And
finally,
the
what
would
be
most
helpful
in
learning
about
land
use
again
the
online
interactive
zoning
map
came
highest
ranked
so
with
that.
I
wanted
to
jump
right
into
some
of
our
currently
available
tools
that
you
may
be
familiar
with,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
quick
rundown
of
what's
available
in
our
bend,
oregon
online
mapper
and
our
newer
version
of
the
bend
land
information
system.
D
R
It's
just
whether
you
navigate
to
the
right
places
to
see
it,
and
so
the
introductory
page
of
boom
has
a
bunch
of
help
guides
on
the
left
that
you
can
access,
and
these
will
open
up
into
new
websites
that
describe
the
tools
and
functionality
and
how
to
do
specific
tasks
within
the
actual
map
viewer,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
open
all
these
up.
But
I
think
a
key
one
to
think
about.
R
Is
this
how
to
select
data
and
that's
going
to
really
describe
how,
as
a
neighborhood
association,
you
can
extract
information
out
of
boom
for
the
neighborhood
association
that
you're
associated
with
and
so
looking
at.
The
data
sets
just
from
a
high
level.
Everything's
been
organized
thematically
on
the
left-hand
side
table
of
contents.
R
You
need
to
turn
on
and
off
additional
data,
but
really,
I
think,
what's
most
importantly
and
probably
relevant
to
this
discussion
is
looking
at
our
current
permit
and
land
use
information
data
sets,
and
so
within
this
portal
you
can
look
at
active
and
completed
building
permits.
They
don't
show
up
unless
you
zoom
in
and
so
they're
scale
dependent
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
them.
R
R
Additionally,
in
this
permits
and
land
use,
data
set,
there's
a
wealth
of
resources
around
our
special
plan,
districts,
zoning
and
comp
plan
data,
special
review
areas,
a
wealth
of
things
that
might
be
of
interest,
and
so
you
can
turn
them
on
and
off,
and
so
in
this
case,
I'm
going
to
turn
on
our
comprehensive
plan
data
and
our
special
plan
districts,
and
you
can
start
to
to
look
around
and
see
what
kind
of
questions
you
want
to
ask
answer
by.
By
being
in
this
map,
you
can
stack
different
data
sets
from
different
themes.
R
So
in
this
case
I
could
turn
on
neighborhood
associations,
and
it
gets
a
little
bit
colorful
and
there's
no
way
really
to
solve
that
issue
at
this
point.
But
you
can
again
look
at
data
kind
of
stacked
and
tiered,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
all
the
data
sets
in
here,
but
you
can
look
through
and
see
a
wealth
of
information
that
might
be
relevant
in
terms
of
functionality
that
will
just
really
quickly
focus
on
you
can
filter
the
data.
R
So
in
this
case,
if
a
neighborhood
association
was
interested
in
seeing
land
use
permits
for
a
given
project
year,
we
can
do
that
and
so
on
the
upper
right
hand
side
of
the
screen.
There
is
a
toolbox
that
will
open
up
when
you
click
on
this
tool,
icon
and
in
there
there
is
a
find
data
button
and
there's
instructions
that
are
documented.
That
show
you
how
to
do
this.
R
So,
basically
you
can
filter
data,
and
so
in
this
case
we
tell
it
what
we
want
to
do,
we're
going
to
filter
the
permit
or
sorry
the
planning
applications,
and
we
want
to
maybe
do
it
by
a
field
in
here.
There's
a
wealth
of
stuff
that
you
can
explore
project
year
and
let's
say
we
want
everything
from
2020
and
we
can
hit
filter
and
that
should
fill
our
data
down.
If
I
am
to
zoom
in,
we
would
only
seen
projects
that
were
applied
in
the
last
calendar
year.
R
So
that's
one
option
you
can
do
and
you
can
filter
data
based
on
a
planning
application
type,
maybe
you're
interested
in
site
plans,
maybe
you're
interested
in
multi-family
plans,
land
partitions,
final
plats.
You
name
it,
you
can
query
that
out,
so
you
can
build
the
most
complex
queries
that
you
want,
or
the
more
simplest,
and
so
the
last
piece
to
really
kind
of
highlight
in
boom
is
the
ability
to
export
a
list
of
projects
by
neighborhood
association.
R
So
if
I
was
to
turn
on
a
neighborhood
association-
and
I
can
use
this-
I
want
to
button
which
allows
us
to
do
a
couple
things
we
can
select
the
neighborhood
association.
Maybe
we
care
about
orchard
neighborhood
association,
orchard
district.
If
I
click
on
that
and
I've
got
the
land
use,
planning
applications
turned
on,
I
filter
them
by
2020..
R
R
Q
R
Right
so
to
get
to
that
information
you're
going
to
use
this,
I
want
to
button
you're
going
to
find
data
on
the
map
and
basically
draw
a
box
on
it,
and
what
that
will
do
is
it
will
grab
everything
within
the
box.
You
drew
so
the
tax
lot
and
that
planning
application
there
could
be
multiples
and
it
gives
you
the
links
right
here
to
access
e-plans.
R
A
Q
R
R
But
I
want
to
focus
primarily
on
this
lan
information
data
explorer.
So
if
you,
if
you
get
in
here
and
switch
to
this
tab
view,
this
is
kind
of
a
distilled
version
of
what
we
were
just
looking
at
in
boom
in
this
new
platform
and
it's
built
around
again
the
bendland
information
system
and
so
on.
The
map
you're,
seeing
the
essence
of
bliss,
which
is
our
bentley
information
system,
which
is
this
residential
land
status.
Looking
at
where
our
vacant
lands
are
within
the
city.
R
R
This
is
a
lot
to
try
to
take
in
again,
but
what
we're
seeing
is
another
view
of
that
same
permit
data,
so
we've
got
in
the
reds
in
orange,
are
active
and
final
building
permits
and
these
are
live,
and
so
again
we
can
click
on
them.
We
can
get
some
detailed
information
about
those
permits
and
we
can
pan
around
and
see
essentially
what's
proposed
as
well
get
into
the
e-plants
documents,
so
we
can
do
that
for
residential
non-residential
structures.
R
We
also
have
a
limited
view
of
the
current
planning
applications
on
site,
and
so
in
this
case
you
can
click
on
the
on
the
land
use
applications.
In
this
case,
it's
a
tentative
plan.
Again
you
can
see
what
its
status
is,
its
application
date
and
get
into
the
actual
e-plant's
documentation
within
here
there's
a
wealth
of
data.
We
could
add
to
this
mix
comprehensive
plan
data,
neighborhood
associations,
you
name
it.
We
could
probably
throw
it
in
here,
but
this
is
kind
of
just
really
a
stand
up
to
look
at
it.
R
In
addition,
you
know
we
can
look.
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
tax
lot
level.
Zoning
in
bliss
each
tax
lot
has
been
assessed
for
its
comprehensive
plan
type.
So
you
can
get
into
this
level
detail
and
look
at
individual
tax
lots
to
understand
what
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
is.
We
could
do
the
same
for
zoning
at
some
point
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
our
tools
are
hopefully
going
to
evolve
to
something
like
this,
but
this
gives
you
kind
of
a
something
to
look
at
and
comment
on
and
think
about
functionality.
Q
So
it's
a
similar
platform
as
our
bliss
site,
but
just
a
different
way
of
looking
at
the
data
and
organizing
the
information.
As
you
guys
know,
we
take
in
a
lot
of
different
types
of
building
and
planning
applications
and
knowing
how
to
filter
them
best.
To
show
you
what's
most
relevant
is
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
this
site.
Does
a
pretty
good
job
of
trying
to
filter
the
data
down
for
user
experience
channel?
Is
there
any
other
thing
you
want
to
highlight
on
the
mckinney
site.
R
No,
I
think
well,
two
small
things
is
yeah,
something
to
think
about
with
the
bliss
view
we're
just
looking
at.
We
didn't
have
temporal
kind
of
filters
set
and
in
the
case
of
mckinley,
they
have
a
nice
way
of
breaking
it
down
to
planning
submittals
for
the
month
versus
for
the
year.
All
key
things
to
think
about,
as
your
neighborhood
associations
want
to
think
about
how
to
track
these,
and
what's
the
most
useful
in
terms
of
a
tool,
and
so
just
thinking
about
things
like
that.
Q
At
this
point,
we
really
just
want
to
open
it
up
for
for
questions,
comments
and
feedback.
The
the
questions
we
want
to
ask
the
group
are
what
you
like
about
our
current
tools
like:
what
is
what
functionality
are
we
providing?
You
want
to
continue,
seeing
what
don't
you
like
about
them
and
how
we
can
improve
them.
A
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I
really
like
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
seeing
on
the
mckinley
site
and
one
of
my
very
first
questions
I
personally
find
boom
to
be
incredibly
challenging
and
incredibly
frustrating,
and
I
must
be
the
anomaly
I
for
the
life
of
me.
I
cannot
get
it
to
the
data
that
I'm
actually
looking
for.
A
A
I
want
to
get
a
mailing
list
for
my
neighborhood
and
be
able
to
click
on
that
button
and
not
have
to
go
through
all
of
the
filters
and
the
the
boom
system,
something
like
I'd
like
to
see
type
2
type,
3
applications
for
a
particular
neighborhood.
You
know
again
one
place
where
we
could
just
use
a
drop
down
menu
and
click
on
that
button,
so
that
we
could
actually
get
a
report
would
be
incredibly
useful
to
me.
A
That
said,
I
I
recognized
a
lot
of
work
went
into
this
and
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
maintain
it.
When
I'm
looking
at
the
city
of
bend
website
under
the
map
library,
I'm
I'm
very
familiar
with
these
they're.
I
I
would
like
to
know
if
the
if
it
is
possible
to
update
some
of
these
documents,
so,
for
example,
subdivisions
has
not
been
updated
since
january
of
2010
irrigation
districts
since
2011..
A
G
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I
put
my
hand
up
for
the
last
guys,
so
I
didn't
realize
it
was
still
up.
I
have
to
agree
with
what
lisa
just
said:
I'm
actually
kind
of
figured
out
how
to
get
around
a
little
bit
on
boom,
but
it
is
something
unless
you
use
it
a
lot.
It's
like
you
have
to
figure
it
out
all
over
again.
G
A
N
N
I
also
was
not
familiar
with
bliss
and
I
believe
you
just
said
that
it's
a
fairly
new
tool,
if
I
understood
correctly
so
it's
very
hard
for
me
to
answer
your
questions
because
I'd
like
to
play
around
with
the
that
tool
a
little
bit
more.
So
I
would.
I
would
ask
that
we
get
email
addresses,
maybe
so
that
we
can
give
you
some
better
feedback
later.
N
S
Yeah
thanks,
I
pretty
much
mirror
what
others
have
said.
I
suppose
I
really.
I
don't
use
this
tool
all
that.
Often
when
I
have
sat
down
to
use
it,
I
feel
like
I
have
to
try
to
figure
it
out
each
and
every
time
I
I
do.
I
would
echo
a
comment
that
you
made
lisa
that
I
think
you
know
incorporating
in
some
some
fashion.
S
The
question
I
want
to
and
then
identifying.
There
are
certain
basic
tools
that
we
as
land
use,
people
need
and
what
those
those
areas
are,
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
matter
of
the
land
use
folks
getting
together
in
one
of
the
working
groups
and
saying
okay.
We
really
need
to
do
this
and
this
and
this
and
this
and
keeping
it
simple
in
that
regard,
and
then,
finally,
I
guess
the
third
thing
is
for
everybody's
benefit
and
for
continuity,
for
others
that
may
take
our
place
at
some
time
in
the
future.
A
N
I
did
I
did
so.
I
I
just
want
to
thank
you
too
again.
I
think
we're
all
obviously
at
the
beginning
stages
of
this,
and
I
I
sort
of
feel
your
pain
on
this
and
that
we
need
to
tell
you
exactly
what
we
what
we
want,
and
I
think
we
need
to
decide
that
as
land
use,
people
and
I
feel
like
I
need
to
go
back
to
my
neighbors
to
find
out
what
they
want.
N
We
don't
have
to
do
that
anymore.
There's
lots
of
tools
out
there
so
that
people
can
create
web
pages
without
really
understanding.
What's
going
on
in
the
background-
and
I
think
that's
what
the
ultimate
goal
is-
is
figure
out
what
people
want
to
see
and
then
I'm
afraid
there's
just
going
to
be
have
to
be
some
work
to
make
it
really
easy
for
them,
and
I
do
I
did
like
what
I
saw
with
the
mckinley
side,
but
we
obviously
need
to
do
some
work
to
get
back
to
you.
So
you
can
work
on
this.
Q
Mapping
applications
from
your
simple
map
of
road
closures,
for
example,
that
we
publish
on
our
website
that's
embedded
into
our
site
and
available
through
mobile
viewers
to
this
more
complex
version
of
the
bendland
information
system.
That
offers
very
deep
abilities
to
toggle
on
and
off
data
and
filter
data.
So
we
really
do
have
an
ability
to
make
some
some
easier
to
use
tools
using
this
technology.
Q
Q
Q
We
do
try
to
link
to
data
as
of
yesterday-
sometimes
it's
not
as
of
today,
but
at
least
as
of
yesterday,
so
you
will
see
in
boom
or
in
here
in
this,
the
building
permits
in
the
landis
applications
were
as
of
yesterday.
So
those
are
somewhat
real-time
data,
however,
layers
such
as
the
status
of
lands
and
whether
they're
vacant
or
developed,
we're
trying
to
work
on
a
more
quarterly
update
basis
with
those
data
layers.
So
in
that
case
you'll
see
on
the
legend
it
says
it
was
last
updated
in
march.
Q
That
was
our
first
quarter
release
and
we
are
currently
working
on
our
an
update
to
that,
but
other
things
like
building
permits
and
landis
applications
are
updated
daily
and,
finally,
the
the
comment
about
the
map
library.
I
know
we
have
some
really
outdated
maps
there.
We
really
made
a
move
to
more
of
these
online
tools
over
the
last
decade
and
which
is
why
some
of
those
maps
have
not
been
updated
and
we
are
really
not
preparing
maps
for
poster
printing
anymore.
Q
A
Q
Yeah,
actually,
all
of
our,
so
we
get
a
data
update
from
truth,
county
assessor's
office.
We
bring
their
data
in-house
weekly
so
that
we
can
link
things
back
to
our
gis
system
and
we've
used
their
data
really
to
help
inform
our
our
systems
here.
So
if
you
were
to
use
boom
or
bliss
to
look
at
property
ownership
information,
that's
coming
from
deschutes
county
assessor
and
the
information
that
is
available
in
dial,
we
also
provide
some
links
directly
to
dial
from
boom
if
you're
over
in
boom.
Q
A
G
B
So
part
of
what
has
been
done
already
is
that
surveying
of
our
community
and
we
put
that
out
in
the
spring,
and
we
asked
what
do
you
want
to
see
what
resources
do
you
want
to
see
and
in
those
survey
reports
you
perceive
a
lot
of
feedback,
not
just
about
wanting
an
interactive
map,
but
wanting
an
interactive
map
with
certain
features,
and
so
I
think,
looking
at
that
data
and
incorporating
it
and
colleen
and
tanner
feel
free
to
jump
in
about
process.
But
the
way
that
things
typically
work
is
we
get
together.
B
B
If
you
will
that
we
can
then
go
into
user
testing,
where
we
would
take
that
product
that
we've
kind
of
already
developed
based
on
feedback
and
know
that
it's
pretty
close
to
what
people
are
wanting
present
it
to
a
few
groups
or
a
select
group
of
people
to
test
it
out
and
give
us
their
feedback
and
then
make
some
additional
changes.
Colleen
and
tanner
is
that
kind
of
a
process
that
you
would
also
say
that
we'd
follow
with
this
map.
Q
Yeah,
thanks
makayla.
I
do
think
that
getting
the
feedback
from
this
group
on
what
they
want
to
see,
in
particular
with
the
new
tools,
will
be
very
helpful.
What
we'll
likely
do
is
develop
a
map
that
will
be
sort
of
a
work
in
progress,
it'll
be
a
tool
where
you
can
see
how
well
we're
doing
it,
putting
together
the
right
tool
and
you
can
you
can
take
a
temperature
check
and
see
our
are
we
meeting
your
need
or
not,
and
how
can
we
better
refine
the
tool?
Q
I
did
want
to
share
our
contact
info
where
you're
welcome,
to
provide
comments,
just
like
anyone
out
in
the
community,
but
I
think
for
this
group,
because
it's
meant
to
be
sort
of
the
eyes
and
ears
of
what
the
neighborhoods
need
to
get
that
those
needs
identified
and
to
michaela
so
that
she
can
pass
them
on
to
us.
That
will
be
really
helpful
for
us
as
we
develop
the
new
versions
of
these
tools.
B
Thanks
colleen
did
you
guys
have
questions
kind
of
about
process,
or
can
I
help
you
understand
what
next
steps
are?
I
did
send
you
the
email
before
this
meeting,
which
had
the
agenda.
It
also
had
a
load
of
other
things
in
it
and
for
the
land
use
chairs.
You've
got
a
separate
email,
but
you
all
were
given
the
links
to
several
of
these
maps
maps
that
are
seen
at
like
mckinney
texas,
some
from
portland.
A
B
A
B
L
B
September
30th,
you
came
to
me
already
yeah,
so
I
can
give
that
to
you.
I
I
when
I
sent
it
I
had
mentioned.
We
had
hoped
to
get
into
design
by
beginning
of
october,
but
we
took
longer
than
we
thought
on
the
drafting.
So
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
there
and
I
would
say
no
later
than
the
end
of
the
month.
Lee
says
that
yep.
F
A
A
Today,
yeah
yeah
and
then
cassie,
I
see
that
you
sent
in
a
chat.
It's
it's
really
hard
to
manage.
All
of
that,
let
me
go
back
to
what
did
cassie
say
because
it
comes
in
through
juan,
let's
see
from
cassie
what
about
the
interactive
map
of
kirkland,
where
neighborhood
association
residents
can
find
projects
in
their
n
a,
and
this
relates
back
to
the
interactive
map
workshop.
B
A
B
You're
fine,
so
I
did
this
video
content
that
I
had
sent
out.
It
went
through
my
team
and
the
communications
team
at
city
hall.
They
had
a
couple
of
suggestions
for
the
first
transcript,
but
other
than
that
they
really
liked
the
direction
that
it
was
going
and
from
mike.
I
received
some
comments
from
you
as
well
on
those
videos,
and
I
I
think
that
you
were
in
agreement
with
the
first
transcript
being
on
on
point.
B
G
A
microphone,
oh
there
we
go
yeah.
What
I
tried
to
do
is
I
looked
at
the
content
of
the
two
videos.
My
concern
was
that
I
got
to
see
my
notes.
I
have
so
much
paperwork
here.
Video
number
one
seems
to
be
answering
really
two
things:
how
oregon
land
use
law
evolved
and
then
three?
How
can
the
average
citizen
get
involved
and
have
an
opportunity
to
influence
land
planning?
G
B
Thanks
mike,
I
think
when,
when
I
think
about
your
comments,
I'm
positive
that
there's
a
land
use
video
out
there
about
oregon
land
use
and
how
it's
evolved
over
time,
and
so
I
could
go
on
there's
a
couple
of
sites.
I
think
a
thousand
friends
of
oregon
has
one
and
then
state
land
use
where
I
could
go
on,
and
I
could
find
that
background
and
we
could
reference
it
on
our
site.
B
We're
really
trying
to
keep
it
to
two
videos,
and
so,
if
we
can
find
a
way-
and
I
know
chronologically,
it
might
make
sense
to
do
more
about
the
background
of
been
land
use
and
then
public
input.
But
we
have
heard
that
public
input
is
the
part
where
people
are
most
unsure
of
what
their
ability
to
participate
is
and
so,
by
making
this
first
video
as
a
how
you
get
involved.
B
A
I
thought
the
script
was
actually
very
well
done,
just
as
you're
talking
michaela.
What
I'm
feeling
is
that
we
probably
need
to
give
an
update
to
the
neighborhood
association
leaders
and
land-use
chairs,
just
what
it
is
that
we're
tackling,
and
you
know,
I
would
hope
that
the
land
use
chairs
know
what
we're
doing
by
virtue
of
them
attending
this
meeting.
A
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
with
the
education
video,
the
this
is
stuff
that
we're
not
talking
about
opinions
here
at
all.
It's
very
much
like
this
is
what
the
oregon
land
use
planning
process
is.
This
is
where
you
can
get
involved,
and
so,
if
we
do
bring
materials
to
the
development
community
at
any
point,
it
would
really
be
because
we're
I
don't
know
how
to
how
to
phrase
it,
but
we
would
be
going
against
what's
standard.
B
A
B
B
I
don't,
I
don't
see
anything,
so
I
guess
what
I
would
like
to
know
is:
can
we
stick
with
the
land
use
101
script
mike?
I
will
go
back
and
look
at
your
comments
about
the
bend
process
and
see
how
I
can
make
a
second
transcript
that
maybe
fits
better
but
I'll
get
this
updated
and
sent
to
our
graphic
designer
to
start
making
a
first
draft
of
the
video.
A
Great
thanks,
michaela
and
with
that
our
last
agenda
item
number:
seven
upcoming
planning
commission
work
sessions
and
we
were
right
on
schedule.
We
have
about
10
minutes
so
october
26.
We
have
a
planning
commission
meeting
work
session
michaela,
it
sounds
like
pauline
gave
us
the
update
that
all
of
the
advisory
committees
had
been
invited
to
participate
in
this
work
session,
which
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
all
of
the
the
work
sessions.
Now.
Is
that
right
making
making
sure
that
all
of
the
advisory
committees
are
participating?
A
B
If
you
have
thoughts
about
how,
maybe
we
could
come
to
a
compromise
if
we
need
to
stop
the
recommendations
and
involve
the
developers
more
in
a
conversation
before
going
to
council
for
approval,
and
those
are
all
things
that
we
need
to
talk
to
the
greater
nla
group
about
next
week,
so
that
we
can
get
a
sign
off
and
that
we
can
direct
city
staff
on
what
the
nla
would
like
to
do.
Moving
forward
is
that
right,
colin
and
poland.
A
L
B
L
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question,
so
everybody
knows
it's
an
election
coming
up
and
the
direction
that
I
got
from
eric
was
he
wanted
this
council
to
hear
these
code
amendments
and
and
the
way
that
works
is
really
their
their
last
meeting
in
december.
They
don't
want
anything
super
heavy
on
that
and
then
the
first
meeting
in
january
is
ceremonial
with
the
new
council,
and
so
we
really
need
to
get
this
in
front
of
it.
L
If
eric's,
the
ones
and-
and
this
body
wants
this
council
to
hear
it-
we
really
need
to
get
to
december
2nd
and
the
dates
that
we
have
outlined
that
we
need.
We
need
to
make
that
now,
if,
if
we
wanted
to
have
a
change
from
that,
if
this
group
and
city
manager's
office
is
comfortable
moving
this
to
the
next
city
council
and
understanding
that
there's
at
least
going
to
be
a
change
or
two
on
that,
then
we
can
do
that
in
order
to
have
more
involvement
with
the
development
community
from
a
staff
perspective.
B
I
H
H
Because
this
current
council
was
involved
with
forming
the
nla,
I
think
there
was
an
intent
or
a
desire
to
get
this
to
the
current
council
before
they
change
at
the
end
of
the
year.
But
my
understanding
is
that
from
the
city
manager's
office,
that's
not
an
imperative.
At
this
point,
the
nla
may
have
a
priority,
which
is
fine,
and
you
can
talk
about
that,
but
I
don't
think,
there's
any
longer
a
really
burning
directive
from
eric's
office
that
this
happened
on
a
certain
timeline.
C
A
C
You
know
what,
if
it
would
not
bother
me
if
we
had
a
joint
meeting
with
with
them.
The
land
use
working
group
have
a
joint
meeting
with
with
representatives
of
the
builders
community,
plus
somebody
from
coba
and
just
go
over
what
we've
done,
because
I'm
really
concerned
that
that
they
think
that
we're
that
we're
acting
too
fast,
and
I
don't
think
they
realize
how
much
effort
we
have
put
into.
C
B
B
A
Okay,
cassie,
I
would
have
invited
you
to
participate
and
speak
for
anyone
else.
Well,
the
the
other
item
on
upcoming
planning
commission
working
sessions
november
9th
there's
a
discussion
around
juniper
ridge
amendments.
Michaela.
Was
there
anything
else
that
you
wanted
to
speak
to
about
that?
Just.
B
For
both
of
these,
we
need
two
one
to
two
representatives
from
the
nla
to
sit
in
on
those
meetings
and
to
educate
themselves
on
the
issues
that
are
going
to
be
talked
about.
It
will
be
a
learning
session,
as
work
sessions
are,
but
whatever
you
can
do
beforehand
like
we
did
with
the
micro
units,
is
encouraged.
A
T
T
It's
just
my
personal
feeling
that
we
ought
not
to
put
it
off,
but
it
will
be
an
nla
decision.
I'm
just
suggesting
that
there's
so
much
that
we
agree
on
with
the
developers
that
I'm
not
inclined.
Based
on
what
I
heard
today
to
not
move
forward
with
the
recommended
changes
or
perhaps
with
small
modifications.
G
Be
good,
okay,
okay!
I
I
listened
to
everybody's
comments
on
that.
At
the
same
time,
I
had
their
letters
on
my
desktop.
I
scanned
through
the
letters
we
can
respond
very
simply
to
show
how
every
one
of
their
concerns
can
be
dealt
with
or
really
to
show
the
magnitude.
I
I
honestly
feel
having
been
a
developer
for
many
years.
We
can.
We
can
show
them
how
this
really
won't
cause.
Delays
won't
cause
additional
expense
and
that's
really
the
bottom
line.
If
it
did,
I
would
be
raising
my
hand
saying
yeah.
G
We
got
a
problem,
but
I
I
just
got
the
feeling.
There
were
too
many
general
comments.
Nobody
said
well,
it's
gonna
cost
us
six
dollars.
They
really
haven't.
Looked
at
it
closely
that
yet
so
I
was
going
to
suggest.
I
can
outline
something
in
the
next
couple
of
days
to
show
you
how
to
respond
to
everybody's
written
comments
and
verbal
comments,
to
show
you
just
how
simple
it
should
be
plus.
I
also
believe
you
have
a
great
story
to
tell
them
about
the
education
effort.
G
I
think
they're
going
to
be
shocked
to
see
just
what's
being
worked
on
and
what
this
ultimate
thing
is.
We
understand
we
have
to
raise
the
bar
on
the
citizens
side
on
the
land
use
chair
side.
That
project
is
probably
50
times
more
complex
and
more
effort's
going
to
go
into
it
than
these
few
code
changes.
G
N
N
A
Thank
you
debbie.
I
kind
of
I
share
your
opinions.
I
I'm
still
scratching
my
head
with
the
the
first
presenter,
basically
saying
that
it's
unfair
to
continue
to
engage
in
dialogue
with
residents,
because
it
gives
them
the
perception
that
they
have
the
ability
to
to
affect
change,
and
I
I
don't
think
that
he
meant
it
in
quite
such
a
negative
way,
but
it
was
hard
not
to
take
it
like
that.
So.
A
A
B
B
Be
able
to
send
a
pretty
good
layout
to
start
the
landy's
chair
com
handbook
conversation,
and
so
we
can
put
that
on
the
agenda
and
then
I
think
we
also
need
to
continue
our
conversation
about
the
interactive
map
and
giving
you
guys
about
a
month
to
go
back.
Look
at
these
maps
and
send
me
your
comments
on
what
you're
really
hoping
to
see
out
of
this
product.
A
Okay,
that's
terrific
and
some
of
you
weren't
on
the
call
when
we
first
started.
I
think
juan
mentioned
that
we'll
be
moving
to
the
zoom
platform
here
for
nla
type
meetings,
hopefully
in
the
next
week
or
so
so
don't
be
looking
for
webex
for
that
next
meeting:
look
for
a
zoom
link
and
michaela
you'll
put
that
in
the
agenda
again.
A
B
A
J
J
I
do
have
to
get
the
bulletin
notice
out
next
week,
so
I
don't
want
anybody
to
be
surprised
if
they
see
the
legal
notice
in
the
newspaper
and
the
neighborhood
associations
noticed
of
the
public
hearing,
for
it
is
november
9th,
it's
just
a
timing
thing
and
we
can
always
postpone
it
or
whatever,
but
in
order
to
stay
on
schedule,
unless
you
hear
something
different,
you
will
start
seeing
some
public
notices
for
that.
The
draft
nla
recommendations.
A
Thank
you
we'll
take
that
under
advisement.
I
think
that
it
sounds
like
mike
you
and
I
will
probably
connect
on
a
a
sample
communication,
and
we
should
do
that
in
the
next
day
or
two,
and
then
we
need
to
put
that
in
front
of
the
nla
on
next
yikes
next
tuesday,
next
tuesday,
the
13th
and
then,
if
we're
going
to
take
any
action,
we
need
approval
from
the
nla
at
that
meeting.