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A
A
B
B
A
A
Our
journey
to
celebrate
fred
hayes
and
the
apollo
13
50th
anniversary
also
had
a
problem:
covid
cancer
and
zeta
covidwell.
You
know
the
story.
Our
artist
mary
davidson
was
treated
for
breast
cancer
and
survived
and
is
back
to
work.
Hurricane
zeta
damaged
the
pedestal
on
which
fred
hayes
sculpture
will
be
erected.
A
C
And
as
first
home
we
lived
in
was
actually
a
duplex
on
lemieux
street,
just
over
the
railroad
tracks
about
four
houses
up
from
the
bark's
root
beer
factory,
and
I
spent
I
wasn't
very
interested.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time,
walked
down
the
street
and
looking
to
hit
a
side
window,
you
could
look
in
at
all
the
mechanical
aspects
of
box
bottles,
all
glass
in
those
days
coming
down
the
assembly
line,
getting
filled
and
what
caps
put
on
them.
C
I
was
amazed
at
the
machinery
that
was
doing
that
we
later
moved
and
the
only
house,
mom
and
dad
owned
was
on
church
street
out
just
off
single
block
street
off
division
street,
where
the
north
end
of
that
street
ran
right
into
the
garnfall
elementary
schoolyard
and,
of
course,
that
street
has
since
since
been
named
after
apollo
13
flight
to
hay
street
at
single
block
street.
C
I
have
two
sisters
brenda
now.
Brenda
johnston,
who
was
seven
years
and
five
months
younger
than
I
and
even
a
younger
daughter,
is
actually
I
was
starting
to
head
off
to
college
was
my
sister
edie,
who
was
17
years
younger
than
me,
and
so
that
that
was
a
family.
I
had
no
brothers,
I
was
the
oldest.
C
C
My
dad
was
a
good
handy
person
could
do
almost
anything
any
type
of
task.
That
way,
well,
that
that
was
the
reason
I
I
transferred.
It
was
funny
at
one
point,
neil
who
had
was
ahead
of
me
about
three
years:
neal
started
with
nasa
at
lewis
and
went
to
edwards
and
then
neil
applied
and
went
into
the
astronaut
program.
He
visited
back
at
flight
research
center
and
don
malek,
and
I
another
pilot
talked
to
him
and
asked
him
what
it's
like
to
be
an
astronaut
neil's
summary
for
us
was
well.
C
You
attend
a
lot
of
meetings.
You
sit
in
a
simulator
a
lot
and
you
don't
do
much
good
flying,
so
that
was
neil's
summary
of
being
an
astronaut.
You
know
you
don't
go
out
of
space
that
often,
whereas
at
edwards
we
were
flying
every
day,
something
I
was
normally
involved
in
three
different
test
programs.
C
At
the
same
time,
so
I
had
to
think
real
hard
about
whether
I
should
even
apply,
but
then
I
said
well,
it's
a
chance
to
go
to
the
moon
and
that'd
be
a
great
adventure,
and
if
I
stay
here
at
edwards,
I'm
not
going
to
have
that
chance.
So
that's
really
what
convinced
me
I
should
apply
and
sign
up
for
the
astronaut
program.
C
C
Through
two
years
we
were
supposed
to
have
a
year
of
call
it
rookie
training
and
it
turned
out
things
got
so
busy
in
the
early
development
of
this
apollo
vehicles,
command
module,
lunar
module,
the
spacesuits
that
they
needed
us
to
do,
support
roles
following
the
development
of
various
parts,
and
so
I
really
only
got
about
probably
nine
to
ten
months
of
that
rookie
training
before
I
got
a
first
assignment
to
to
under
jim
mcdivit
and
that
crew,
who
were
slated
to
fly
the
first
lunar
module
in
earth
orbit
on
a
mission
and
jim
mcdevitt,
ed
mitchell,
and
I
who
later
walked
on
the
moon
reported
to
jim,
and
he
gave
us
simple
instructions.
C
We
spent
the
next
almost
a
year
at
grumman
in
the
involved
in
the
testing
early
testing
of
all
the
lunar
modules
up
to
lim
five,
the
first
vehicle
that
ended
up
landing
on
the
moon,
assuring
they
made
it
through
factory
tests
and
were
ready
to
ship
to
kennedy
space
center
to
get
ready
for
launch
how
you
got
your
crew
assignments
was
kind
of
a
mystery.
C
C
C
C
He
told
the
medics
about
that
and
of
course
they
did
then
a
bunch
of
testing
taking
blood
almost
every
morning
and
sending
it
somewhere
for
analysis
somewhere
for
analysis
and
three
days
before
launch
was
determined
and
a
decision
made
that
ken
mattingly
being
a
bachelor
had
never
been
married,
had
never
had
measles
as
a
child
was
very
likely
to
come
down
with
measles
during
the
flight,
so
he
was
removed
and
jack
schweigert.
The
backup
command
module
pilot
replaced
him
two
and
a
half
days
before
launch.
C
Well
at
the
time
that
happened,
jim
lovell
and
I
were
down
in
the
landing
craft.
The
lunar
module
we
had,
we
had
looked
at
tv
shows
that
had
been
shown
on
previous
missions
and
jim,
and
I
decided
to
use
the
lunar
module
as
our
stage
for
a
planned
tv
show
using
equipment
that
we
knew
had
not
been
talked
about
before.
C
So
it's
kind
of
a
show-and-tell
setting
and
jack
schweigert
was
all
alone
left
in
the
command
module
to
watch
over
things
at
the
time,
the
just
after
it
wasn't
very
long
after
we
finished
and
closed
off
the
tv
show.
C
This
big
bang
happened,
kind
of
rattled
through
the
the
vehicles
are
metal,
so
it's
kind
of
like
if
you're
inside
of
a
a
big
barrel
metal
barrel,
and
somebody
hits
on
it
with
a
sledgehammer
rocket
little
small
rocket
engines
that
normally
hold
attitude
were
firing.
C
We
could
feel
some
motion
not
very
not
very
much
motion,
but
some
motion
of
the
vehicles
and
so
instantly
we
knew
this
is
not
normal.
This
is
something
wrong:
jim
lovell.
It's
had
drifted
up
into
the
command
module.
By
that
time,
jack
swaggart
had
made.
The
call
houston
would
have
had
a
problem
here
and
jim
repeated
it
because
houston
did
not
reply
to
jack
and
I
shortly
also
floated
up
and
zero
g
back
to
my
position
in
the
right
couch.
C
C
But
I
was
sick
to
my
stomach
with
disappointment,
because
I
knew
losing
even
one
of
the
two
tanks
meant
we
weren't
going
to
get
the
land
on
the
moon.
It
took
some
time
of
troubleshooting.
In
fact,
mission
control,
thought
for
18
minutes
because
of
the
different
array
of
caution
warning
lights
on
in
different
systems
that
were
not
related
in
any
way
that
it
was
false.
There
were
false
signals,
that's
something
that
happened
in
the
caution,
warning,
electronics.
C
After
18
minutes
they
got
busy
because
it
was
now
for
sure
real
when
jim
had
reported,
seeing
a
gas
or
something
fluid
flowing
away
from
the
spacecraft,
seeing
it
out
the
window
and
we
went
into
troubleshooting
mode
mainly
now,
because
we'd
also
detected.
There
was
a
leak
in
the
second
remaining
oxygen
tank
slow
leak.
But
it
was
clear.
The
pressure
quantity
was
going
down
when
I
looked
up
and
saw
both.
C
F
I'd
say
this
is
a
serious
situation
that
we
have
ever
had
in
manned
space
like
we've,
always
called
the
lamb,
a
good
lifeboat
under
those
circumstances.
So.
C
C
It
could
give
us
thrusters
to
control
all
the
things
we
would
need
in
the
interim
period
to
work
our
way
back
home.
So
that's
what
we
did.
We
gemini
left
and
got
very
busy
powering
up
the
lunar
module
and
the
critical
step
was
transferring
the
inertial
measuring
unit
angles,
which
is
the
device
that
tells
you
how
to
point
very
accurately,
because
you
need
it
very
accurate
to
do
any
engine
maneuvers
to
change
the
path
the
trajectory,
so
we
can
manually
do
that,
but
jack.
C
Given
us
the
readings
out
of
a
three
registers
called
noun
20s
that
jim
could
manually,
he
did
manually
crank
them
into
the
limb
computer.
That
would
torque
that
platform
when
we
powered
it
up
to
those
angles.
So
we
had
a
good
platform.
It
was
very
critical
at
the
time
we
were
not
going
around
the
moon
in
the
way
that
we
got
us
home
if
we'd
done
nothing.
C
From
that
point,
we
would
have
missed
the
earth,
but
I
think
about
later
they
did
a
simulation
years
later,
figured
out
where
to
miss
the
earth
by
about
three
thousand
miles
and
probably
looped
around
the
moon,
twice
more
before
eventually
entering
in
the
earth
but
anyway.
So
the
first
critical
thing
was
to
get
on
a
path
to
get
his
back
with
the
moon's
gravity
turned
to
get
roughly
back
to
home.
C
It
was
interesting
later
I,
the
first
the
first
maneuver
done,
glenn
lonnie
had
taken
over
from
gene
krantz
as
the
flight
director
and
the
guys
were
the
fighters
flight
dynamics.
Officers
were
arguing
about.
Well,
where
do
you
want
us
to
to
get
get
us
back
to
and
glenn's
instruction
was
just
get
us
back
to
any
place
on
earth,
so
that
was
the
first
maneuver
they
did
and
it
would
have
landed
us
in
the
indian
ocean
by
madagascar.
C
No,
I
never
never
had
high
confidence
at
any
point
that
we
had
all
everything
figured
out.
Neither
did
the
ground.
This
was
kind
of
an
incremental
things
of
trying
to
stay
one
step
ahead.
As
things
came
up
like
mentioned,
the
lithium
hydroxide
that
took
some
time
over
a
day
to
realize
that
lithium,
that
carbon
dioxide
was
building
up
and
we
needed
a
way
to
get
rid
of
it
and
the
lunar
module
which
had
a
different
shape.
C
Cartridge
of
this
lithium
material,
which
could
scrub
the
air
of
carbon
dioxide
did
not
have
enough
because
we're
going
to
have
to
make
this
vehicle
last
four
days
versus
two
days.
So
they
had
the
jury
rig
a
way
to
use
the
abundant
cartridges.
We
had
from
the
mothership,
which
is
a
square
shape,
and
they
figured
that
out
and
actually
tested
it
in
a
chamber
in
building
a
seven
at
houston
and
they
had
a
limb
environmental
system
set
up
in
the
chamber
and
tested
that
at
work
before
they
sent
instructions
up
to
us.
So.
A
C
C
C
C
The
next
two
corrections
mid-course,
which
are
very
small
maneuvers,
not
very
long
used
first,
one
using
a
decent
engine
for
14
seconds.
Second,
one
about
22
seconds
using
the
400
pound
attitude,
trusses,
all
four
of
them
firing
in
one
direction.
We're
done
to
correct
tweak
the
trajectory
on
the
on
the
way
home.
Those
were
all
done
manually,
making
an
alignment
first
out
the
window
using
the
coast,
which
is
like
a
gun
sight.
Jim
lovell
would
land
on
the
earth
cusp.
It
was
a.
B
C
After
we
got
back,
I
talked
to
people
and
some
had
expressed
the
concern
about
the
heat
shield.
It
never
occurred
to,
at
least
to
me.
The
heat
shield
is
a
pretty
tough
material.
It's
the
very
tough
material
that
normally
is
used
to
dissipate
the
heat
by
somewhat
burning
away.
As
you
come
through
entry,
I
never
suspected,
because
when
we
saw
the
damaged
area
when
we
separated
the
service
module,
it
looked
like
the
quarter
of
the
spacecraft
panel
had
blown
straight
out
in
a
way
not
downward
toward
where
the
heat
shield
was
so
it
didn't.
C
C
Well,
we
were
somewhat
shocked
by
the
amount
of
damage
we
saw
because,
like
I
said,
a
quarter
of
the
spacecraft
had
blown
off
and
there
was
broken
wires
hanging
out
torn
thermal
blankets.
You
know
quite
a
bit
of
disarray
in
that
area
and
thinking
back
the
the
intent
of
the
explosion.
We
felt
did
not
seem
that
severe
frankly
for
what
the
damage
we.
C
C
Yes,
following
that
mission,
we
did
some
public
affairs,
obviously,
which
is
pretty
traditional
after
a
mission.
Whoever
just
flown
was
put
on
a
circuit.
We
had
a
parade
in
chicago
ticker
tape,
parade
which
I
missed.
I
I
had
gotten
ill
with
a
urinary
tract
infection,
and
so
I
did
not
make
that
trip.
We
went
to
testify
to
a
congress
committee
a
lot
of
other
public
affairs
events
both
in
the
states
as
well
as
overseas,
but
within
a
month
deke
slayton
called
me
in
and
told
me.
C
C
So
I
I
was
happy.
I
had
built
jerry
carr
and
bill
pogue
signed
with
me
as
the
crew
and
so
like
I
said
we
were
training
for
about
four
or
five
months
before
18
and
19
got
cancelled.
So
I
had
a
second
point
of
disappointment.
C
I
was,
I
went
off
briefly
to
harvard
business
school
long
range.
I
was
interested
in
getting
into
program
management
and
I
got
back.
It
was
a
pressure
cooker
course
program
for
management,
development,
12
months
course,
and
I
went
into
the
arbiter
project
office.
C
So
I
really
went
into
program
management
on
early
shuttle
for
four
years,
so
I
was
there
from
day
one
when
we
were
evaluating
the
proposals
on
who
should
build
it
all
the
way
through
getting
it
through
the
design
phase
into
the
early
testing
phase
and
then,
of
course,
getting
ready
to
fly
the
first
vehicle
enterprise,
and
at
that
time
I
was
really
surprised
and
happy.
D
C
I
never
flew
into
space.
I
was
designated
to
fly
the
third
orbital
mission
at
the
time
I
would
have
stayed
had
we
kept
the
mission.
Jack
lousma
was
going
to
fly
it
with
me
and
we
were
going
to
go
up
and
rescue
skylab
skylab
was
fixing
the
worried
about
falling
in
and
our
with
all
we
were
training,
including
building
a
little
kickstage
following
the
development
of
a
little
booster
that
we're
going
to
fly
in
the
payload
bay.
C
That
jack
actually
was
training
to
fly
it
after
we
got
close
on
a
rendezvous,
he
was
gonna,
we're
gonna
release
it
and
he
would
fly
it
over
and
dock
it
with
skylab,
and
then
the
mission
control
would
worry
about
which
way
skylab's
pointing
and
fire
the
booster
after
we
got
clear,
but
unfortunately
the
shuttle
launch
schedules,
slipped
went
further
out
and
skylab
fell
in
earlier
than
even
they
thought,
with
sunspot
activity
activity
that
ballooned
our
atmosphere
a
bit
and
caused
more
drag
and
skylab
fell
in
more
quickly.
C
So
I,
when
that
mission,
went
away
the
mission
that
then
was
going
to
be
flown.
I
wasn't
interested
in
so
I
had
the
opportunity
to
become
an
aerospace
executive
at
grumman
corporation
in
new
york,
so
I
left
nasa
at
that
point
in
1979..
C
C
We
started
at
another
field
and
came
roaring
in
like
the
attack
on
pearl
harbor,
and
I
was
flying
what
was
a
converted:
volte
vibrator
bt-13
world
pre-world
war
ii,
trainer
that
had
been
converted
to
look
like
the
japanese,
val
dab
owner
and
one
day
I
was
just
faring
it
from
a
short
distance
from
angleton
texas,
where
it
had
been
kept
at
a
crop,
duster
seal
to
galveston
shoals
field.
To
get
washed
up
on
a
rack.
C
C
So
I
switched
quickly
fuel
tanks
to
the
other
wing
tank
pumped
the
wobble
pump,
which
is
a
little
hand,
pump
to
get
fuel
pressure
and
it
could
get
the
engine
to
sputter,
run
for
a
little
bit
and
then
quit
so
I
milked
it
around.
Anyway.
I
was
headed
right
into
the
gulf
of
mexico
southbound
and
I
did
not
want
to
go
in
the
gulf
because
it
had
a
fixed
gear.
C
I
couldn't
raise
the
landing
gear
fixed
airplane
and
I
knew
if
I
went
in
the
gulf
it'd
probably
flip
over
upside
down,
and
it
was
shallow
water
I'd
be
trapped
in
it.
You
want
to
be
in
deep
water
if
you're
going
in
the
water
it's
going
to
flip
over
so
anyway,
I've
made
made
it
around
180
degrees
and
landed
on
the
far
west
side
of
shoals
field
and
when
a
hit
and
some
not
necessarily
smooth
terrain,
eventually
ended
up
being
part
of
a
housing
project.
C
I
one
gear
broke
off
wing
dug
in
it
flipped
and
I
ended
up
upside
down
backwards
and
it
caught
on
fire
before
I
could
get
out,
because
the
canopy
was
jammed
shut
and
I
had
to
kick
a
hole
to
get
out.
I
received
burns
over
65
percent
and
ambulance
was
already
on
the
way
the
person
about
a
block
over
saw
this
happen,
and
they
called
the
ambulance.
C
To
pick
me
up,
take
me
to
the
university
of
texas
hospital
at
galveston
to
the
burn
ward
there,
where
I
spent
the
next
three
months
going
through
taking
care
of
the
the
burns,
including
debris
and
eventually
grafting
before
I
could
get
released.
C
Well.
As
you
said,
I've
received
a
lot
of
awards
some,
I
I
feel
more
precious.
I've
enjoyed
more
and
appreciated
more
because
they
were
from
peers
like
from
society
of
experimental
test
pilots.
C
I
was
test
pilot
of
the
year
one
year
after
the
shuttle
test
and
because
that's
made
by
voting
of
your
peers,
this
one
is
also
exceptional
in
that
way.
This
is
by
my
hometown,
who
I
spent
a
lot
of
years
here
and
I'll
have
to
say
I
was
chasing
those
rainbows.
C
I
chased
new
dreams
of
more
adventures
to
do
it
took
me
away
for
about
45
years,
although
I
came
back
often
to
visit
my
mother
and
sister's
family
over
those
years
whenever
I
could
get
an
airplane
and
fly
into
kiesler
air
force
base.
C
I
hope
the
statue
serves
more
as
not
as
a
fred
hayes
thing
over
time,
but
as
a
representation,
if
you
grow
up
even
in
a
small
town
like
buxy,
with
the
right
upbringing
and
the
right
training
and
education
along
the
way,
what
you
can
achieve
well,
what
what's
the
honor
you're
talking
about
there,
which
is
also
great,
is
the
a1
test,
stand
as
an
a1
is
an
a2,
and
the
b
stand
is
where
the
current
sls
big
rocket
is
sitting
and
that
they're
going
to
test
shortly.
C
The
a1
stand
was
used
to
test
j2
engines,
which
were
the
engines
on
the
second
and
the
third
stage
of
the
saturn.
So
I
saturn,
I
flew
had
six
of
those
engines,
j2
engines,
so
there's
obviously
a
direct
infinity
that
engines.
I
that
I
depended
on
that
got
me
on
my
way
to
the
moon
came
out
of
a
sentence
that
got
me
on
my
way.
C
C
I
guess
the
creation
came
through
roy
estes,
leo
seale
and
myron
webb,
who
was
that
time
of
public
affairs.
C
They
decided
with
9
11
and
the
security
requirements
that
were
imposed
on
all
nasa
facilities,
but
at
stennis
it
pretty
much
dampened
any
of
the
tenants
they
had
at
the
stenosphere,
which
is
a
small
museum
out
at
stennis,
so
between
the
three
of
them
and
they
wanted
to
create
something
off-site,
and
so
the
way
that
was
set
up.
C
It
was
with
a
not-for-profit
that
mr
leoseal
was
the
initial
chairman
and
he
asked
me
to
join
the
board
that
was
like
14
years
ago,
and
I
was
I
was
interested
primarily
for
what
I
would
see
it
would
do
with
children's
education
and
what
what
at
least
at
that
time
we
were
surmising
would
be
the
content
in
this
museum.
C
C
C
Their
plan
requires
a
certain
funding
level
that
would
have
to
be
approved
through
administration
and
congress,
and
the
question
mark
is
always:
will
congress
support
it
and
that
way,
do
you
think
we
should
be
going
back?
I
think
we
should
be
going
back
to
then
there
and
also
mars.
We
ought
to
continue
exploration,
not
just
with
people,
but
the
unmanned
work.
That's
been
done
by
jpl
to
look
at
all
parts
of
our
solar
system,
and
hopefully,
if
we
find
the
right
exoplanet,
they
call
it.
G
G
H
What
what
was
this
is
a
clay
image
that
I'm
trying
to
achieve
and
gather
the
likeness
of
fred.
I
And
you
you
of
course
know
fred.
H
I
have
met
him.
Yes,
I
know
his
sister
brenda
before
she
was.
H
H
I
H
For
diaperville
back
in
1997.,
my
husband
worked
very
closely
with
me
on
that
project.
We
finished
it
in
1998
in
time
for
the
1699.
anniversary
of
the
founding
of
biloxi.
A
A
Due
so
well
mary,
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
been
here
in
the
studio,
what's
been
going
on
over
these
months,.
H
Well,
quite
a
few
things
I
did
manage
to
finish
the
bust
of
fred
back
actually
march,
but
in
the
meantime
I
discovered
I
had
breast
cancer.
H
H
A
H
A
So
this
you've
got
a
light
set
of
legs.
You've
got
a
head
and
I
guess,
there's
a
torso
that
will
eventually
go
on
this
as
well.
H
Right
right
now,
that's
that's
the
real
intriguing
part
of
this,
because
it's
like
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse,
because
normally
you
start
with
the
bottom
and
you
work
your
way
up,
but
I
already
have
that
completed
bust,
which
I
have
to
make
everything
else
in
proportion.
Proportions
are
everything,
so
that's
the
real
challenging
part
well.
A
That
started
first
was
it
for
the
presentation
that
we
made,
I
guess
about
a
year
ago
now
I
mean
we've
just
been
about
a
year
since
we
started
the
project.
H
Well,
actually,
I
think
the
that
big
event
was
supposed
to
be
april,
the
10th,
but
it
never
happened.
Of
course,
due
to
covet
so
yeah
he's
been
he's
been
ready
for
quite
a
while.
A
So
tell
me
what
the
process
has
been
in
getting
this
far.
H
H
H
Exactly
I'll
do
the
whole
figure
in
styrofoam.
The
reason
for
that
is
that
it
reduces
the
weight.
If
I
did
it
all
in
clay,
he
would
be
monstrously
heavy,
but
this
way
he
still
will
be
sizable
and
because
of
size,
but
the
clay
won't
be
nearly
as
thick
as
it
would
have
been
otherwise,
and
that
makes
a
big
difference
in
transportation,
mainly
and
my
husband,
and
I
will
take
him
up
to
the
foundry
for
the
first
step
in
getting
him
cast
into
bronze.
H
H
The
first
thing
that's
done
is
that
a
rubber
shell
is
put
over
the
clay,
and
then
the
plastic
mold
is
made
of
that
then
that
rubber
mold
is
taken
out
and
wax
is
poured
in
now,
then
I
have
to
spend
time
going
over
everything,
because
the
wax
isn't
always
perfect,
and
so
I
have
to
refine
it.
H
We
spend
time
at
the
foundry
doing
that,
then,
after
that
he
is
taken
and
another
mold,
which
is
called
a
ceramic
shell,
mold,
is
put
over
the
wax,
and
that
takes
quite
a
long
period
of
time,
because
it's
a
it's
a
liquid
mixture
that
you
have
to
add
on
layer
by
layer.
Of
course,
each
layer
has
to
dry
thoroughly
and
you
can
build
up.
You
can
have
as
many
as
15
coats
of
it
before
the
you're
finished
then
that
ceramic
shell
mold
is
heated,
so
all
the
wax
then
melts
out
of
it.
H
A
Well,
how
far
away
are
we
from
seeing
the
foundry
part
of
this
the
completion
of
the
sculpture
and
then
the
pouring?
How
far
from
this
day,
from
now
yeah
from
now,
when
do
you,
when
you
expect
it.
A
H
Mary,
I
see
fred's
growing.
Yes,
he
is
by
leaps
and
bounds.
H
He's
going
to
soon
be
I'll,
definitely
be
on
a
ladder,
the
next
stage.
So
where
are
we
at
now?
Okay,
what
I've
done
is
created
a
platform
up
here
that
the
finished
bust-
that
I
have
will
rest
on
that
and
of
course
here's.
I
have
to
do
the
arms
first,
so
I
do
the
wooden
armature.
H
A
Of
course,
we've
been
waiting
now
for
months,
so
we've
had
a
number
of
say
things
to
interfere
with
the
project
just
a
few.
But
so
what's
your
expectant
time
now
to
get
completed.
H
Well,
I'm
hoping
to
get
it
to
the
foundry
to
be
cast
in
bronze
at
the
beginning
of
the
summer.
If
that
all
works.
H
Well,
that's
what
that's
my
goal
right
now
and
that's
what
I
keep
informing
the
foundry
that
they
can
expect
to
see
us,
but
we'll
see
how
it
goes
well,
good.
K
A
K
A
A
And
you'll
be
diligently
working
now
through
this
is
february,
so
you've
got
several
months
to
go
before
you
really
get
ready
for
the
casting
part.
H
H
H
A
I
did
and
back
in
the
day,
what
sort
of
things
did
you
do.
A
H
A
Right
now,
once
the
bust
is
placed
on
top,
you
still
have
arms
and
other
things
to
take.
A
H
No,
no,
the
helmet.
I
I
plan
to
do
that
after
I
get
the
figure
done.
H
Yes,
yes,
we
have
two
vehicles
out
there,
we're
debating
which
one
to
use
I'd
like
to
use
the
new
one,
just
relatively
new
as
compared
to
the
one.
That's
20
years
old,.
A
H
Pouring
is,
but
we
have
to
build
two
sets
of
moles
up
there,
so
my
husband
and
I
will
be
making
many
trips
up
to
the
foundry
because
we
work
with
them.
It's
not
a
case
of
just
dropping
it
off
and
they
do
the
work
we
go
hand
in
hand.
We
do
a
first
set
of
moles,
it's
a
which
is
a
rubber
mold,
with
a
plaster
behind
it
to
hold
it
in
place.
Then
we
pour
wax
into
that.
H
Then
we
take
the
wax
and
we
build
up
another
mold
much
more
complicated.
It's
called
ceramic
shell
that
that's
a
very
slow
process
that
will
take
them.
Probably
you
know
well
over
six
eight
weeks
to
do
then.
After
that,
dries
we
melt
out
the
wax,
and
then
we
pour
the
bronze.
But
the
pouring
is
yes.
In
one
day,
it's
bang
and
the
metal
is
what
bronze
silicon
bronze
the
best
all.
D
A
So
maybe
would
we
say
the
end
of
the
year
for
completion,
oh
before
that
yeah
before
that,
so
we
might
finally
get
him
on
that
pedestal,
that's
sitting
on
the
beach,
absolutely
all
right!
Well,
I
hope
to
see
that
mary.
Thank
you
again
for
this
update.
I
appreciate
it
my
pleasure,
I'm
gonna!
Let
you
get
back
to
work.
I
know
you
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
Thank
you.
Thank.