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From YouTube: City Council Budget Workshop, Aug. 12, 2019
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Here, 30 seconds after the meeting began, is a recording of the Aug. 12 budget workshop. Primary topic was non-departmental spending, which includes funding for such agencies as Coast Transit Authority, Harrison County Library System, city museums and special events.
A
As
far
as
the
department's
and
that's
the
operations
of
the
city,
let
me
say
that
the
number
of
employees,
both
managers
actual
and
baking,
that's
actual.
What
is
today
in
there
may
be
one
or
two
pluses
or
minuses
to
personnel,
but
we've
actually
removed
as
many
vacancies
as
possible
to
bring
the
the
projected
two
proposed
budgets
in
line
and
it
reduced
the
amount
of
other
financing
sources
to
operate
with.
There's
any
questions
on
the
departmental
budget
that
we
eat.
A
We
kind
of
hit,
on
the
other
day
with
non-departmental
the
things
that
we've
been
providing
support:
the
different
organizations,
the
library,
the
museums
in
other
groups
and,
as
you
can
see
last
year,
that
non
departmental
budget
was
five
point.
Two
five
five
million
and
we've
been
able
to
cut
that
down
and
do
some
things
to
reduce
that
to
four
point:
seven:
eight:
seven.
A
That's
just
people
who
actually
have
people
who
work
for
them.
This
was
one
of
my
figures
that
we
Jodi
and
and
Human
Resources
indicate
you
know
different
levels
of
know
in
the
trenches
supervisory
departmental
section
manager
and
so
forth.
So
that's
my
internal
kind
of
documentation
of
who's
doing
what
who
reports
to
different
people?
So
that's
really
it
looks
and
you
break
each
one
of
those
departments
down
by
each
section:
there's
121
122
125
within
the
different
departments.
That's
just
internal
to
me,
but
Jodi.
How
many
in
total
folks
that
we.
A
And
yes,
seasonal
employs
is
100.
If
so,
anyway,
did
this
I
should
qualify
that
that's
actually
what's
in
place
right
now
within
each
of
departments,
not
what's
proposed,
how
many
more
employees
or
less
employees
that
we
have
in
this
year
than
last
year?
What
was
the
kick?
You
know
one
way
the
other
was
by
four
or
five.
Wasn't
you
up
one
way,
so
we
operate
basically
on
the
same
deal,
but
we
actually
remove
in
the
proposed
budgets
a
lot
of
vacancies.
The
vacant
you
know,
cut
it
down
to
the
bone.
A
Okay,
I
think,
of
course,
police
and
fire,
and
some
of
the
things
we've
got
to
add
were
through
and
we've
all
set
that
to
was
safer
grants.
So
that's
not
really
impaired
n't,
it's
not
really
showing
you
with
the
full
pictures,
but
as
long
as
those
two
safer
grants
of
have
keep
continuing,
then
it
sort
of
overstates
the
amount
we're
paying,
but
because
we
need
to
offset
that
by
the
revenue
were
receiving
from
the
safer
grants.
B
B
A
That
should
have
been
reflected,
but
it's
not
I
just
pull
that
right
off
the
computer
from
the
personnel.
So
so
now,
if
you
look
at
them
to
go
from
one
chief
to
the
other
until
you
get
to
the
nuts
in
both
of
this
thing,
the
sixty
million
won
8-0
takes
you
to
the
second
page
on
the
proposed
FY
2020
budget.
You
can
see
that
ties
into
the
estimated
departmental
expense.
A
Okay,
so
everybody
knows
where
we
are
and
we're
gonna
go
forward
from
there.
So
any
questions
this
is,
you
know
this
is
as
refined
as
we
can
get
with
the
departmental
budget
and
operations
budget,
so
I
prepared.
What
I
think
is
the
analysis
of
where
we
need
to
go
and
what
we
need
to
do
for
the
estimating
of
what
we
do
know
in
2007.
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A
B
C
B
B
B
A
A
We
you
might
want
to
go
back
to
this
departmental
thing
and
put
some
summaries
of
capital
items
now.
This
is
not
all
police
cause,
but
it's
it's
a
body
cams
and
not
all
foot
police
department.
But
you
know
last
year
in
those
County
capital
items
which
you
know
is
it's
derived
from
a
set
of
things:
you're
gonna
buy
we've
actually.
Last
year
we
put
one
point:
eight
three:
nine
million
of
that
kind
of
stuff
this
year,
we're
three
point:
two:
seven
nine
million.
A
B
A
In
your
plan,
well,
some
of
the
schedule
is
different,
but
we
got
to
record
that
because
that
is
actually
an
asset
that
we
come
on
board
and
we
treat
that
as
a
revenue
for
this
year,
we'll
still
be
paying
on
the
other
number
of
years.
It
has
a
life
cycle,
so
that's
a
cat,
I
would
say
capitalization
of
the
deal,
but.
A
B
D
D
A
That's
that's
answer
to
your
question.
With
regard
to
the
equipment
that
we're
buying
there,
there
is
a
plan,
a
fleet
management
kind
of
situation,
to
do
the
things
we
buy
the
things
that
you
need
with
a
life
cycle
in
mind
that
fast
Thank,
You
chief,
all
right
any
questions.
Okay,
let
me
make
a
few
notes
and
all
yes,
you
for
some
question.
A
On
the
top
of
the
next
page
is
what
we're
proposing
what
has
been
proposed.
So
this
is
a
summary
of
this
detail
sheet
that
is
really
complicated,
shows
every
little
of
the
39
funds
that
we
do,
and
nuts
and
bolts
of
ever.
This
is
the
one
that
has
the
most
I
guess
discussion
in
the
past.
You
see
a
little
bit
of
what
we
tried
to
project
around
this
time
each
year.
Okay
and
a
big
part
of
the
measurement
I
think
that
we've
been
concentrating
on
is
what
we're
going
to
end
with
the
cash
balance.
A
A
You
know
eight
million
dollars
to
start
with,
and
then
last
year
we
projected
six
million
to
start
with,
and
following
that,
we
have
four
point.
Eight
in
2007
was
five
point:
eight,
seven,
three,
okay,
so
each
one
of
those
years
they
had
an
estimated
amount
of
revenue
and
departmental
and
non
Department
on
another
expense
and
as
well
as
other
sources,
those
other
sources
have
included
capital
or
actually
land.
That
we've
sold
and
other
things
that
we've
done
but
proceeds
from
loans
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
that's
that
other
financing
sources
proceeds.
A
D
A
That's
what
we
projected
okay,
okay,
so
we're
projecting
at
this
point
in
nineteen,
and
this
is
actually
what
happened
in
the
excuse
me.
This
is
the
budget
we
did
to
be
projecting
to
end.
We
did
this
time
last
year
to
project
what
we're
going
to
be
ending
with
in
nineteen.
That
was
a
projected
budget,
but.
A
And
that's
that's
reflected
down
in
the
middle
part,
I
gotcha,
you
say
cut
so
at
this
time.
Last
year
we
said
we're
gonna
wind
up,
starting
with
six
million,
and
what
we're
going
to
do,
the
the
things
that
we're
you
know
trying
to
estimate
and
we'll
wind
up
with
four
point:
five
million
okay,
so
we're
estimating.
Now
that
will
start
this
instead
of
six
million.
It's
beginning,
we
start
with
eight
million
of
this
year
now
the
budget,
the
2020
budget.
A
It's
a
recap
of
what
we're
saying,
but
if
you
look
back
an
estimated
revenue
lines,
everybody
on
that
so
we're
you
know,
I
think
everybody's
in
agreement
with
about
what
we're
going
to
estimate
as
far
as
gaming
revenue
as
an
valorem
taxes,
personal
property
sales
tax
and
those
kinds
of
things
help
make
up.
Fifty
nine
point
three
four
five
million,
but
you
can
see
in
the
past
what
we
started
with
it
again,
we'll
get
this
as
the
guest
we
started
and
what
we
tried
to
Cepeda
is
actual
things
that
that
happen.
A
So
this
is
a
I
think
a
reflective,
and
it
made
me
conservative
estimate
of
of
the
revenues
Mike
conservative
conservative.
So
it
may
be
more.
We
would
expect
hope
more.
But
again,
we've
overcome
a
lot
of
things
that
that
that
hit
that
we've
taken
and
we
did
take
and
that's
there
was
more
of
a
million
than
just
at
six
hundred
thousand
that
we
estimated.
So
you
know
at
one
point
in
time:
they
went
from
eighteen
point
five
back
to
seventeen
point.
Five
then
again:
tape,
18:05
and
right
now,
but.
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A
The
experience
we
had
in
September
of
last
year
was
sports
betting
and
that
kicked
the
number.
That
was
normally
one
point,
five
to
one
point:
nine
million,
so
we
hope
we
got
one
full
year
under
the
belt.
The
casinos
have
invested
millions
of
dollars.
It's
a
net
sports
book
operation,
so
that
be
reflected
not
only
in
the
ggr
but
also
in
the
taxes
they
play
ad
valorem
taxes,
mayor.
E
If
I
could
yes,
one
thing
I
want
to
add,
and
that
is
I
know.
The
council
is
understandably
a
little
nervous
about
adopting
a
budget
where
the
expenses
exceed
News,
but
you
should
know
that
13
of
the
last
17
years
you
and
previous
councils
have
adopted
a
budget
where
expenses
exceeded
revenues.
It's
something
that
we
have
consistently
done
13
of
17
years
and
at
least
we're
showing
you
on
this
sheet
for
the
last
three
years
anyway,
that
we've
been
able
to
outrun
outpace
the
revenue.
G
A
A
It's
something
that
we've
had
to
guess
will
together
had
to
guess
and
hope
that
we
do
and
we've
done
our
part
and
that's
that
is
reflected
in
the
middle
section
there,
which
is
actual
cash.
Okay,
everybody
with
me,
okay,
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
say:
look
it
it's
16
what
we
actually
ended
cash!
What
this
has
came
from
the
audits
from
each
one
of
the
audits,
okay,
we
actually
ended
cash
in
2016
with
6.06,
yet
we
actually
have
to
make.
We
have
four
point
four
point.
A
Oh
six,
we
made
the
next
year
seventeen
we
wind
up
with
six
point:
five:
nine
three
million
in
cash
the
next
year.
Eight
point:
seven,
eight
million
in
this
year
we're
here
we're
playing
with
the
numbers
would
feel
good
about
winding
up
starting
at
you,
eight
million
dollars
hope
so
well,
it's
all
a
hope.
Okay,
all
right.
But
if
you
look
at
the
difference
and
I
call,
you
today
gain
and
loss.
A
What's
the
difference
from
each
year
last
year,
that
number
was
2.1
million
the
following
year,
that
was
5.99
mean
that's
three
million
right,
almost
3.75
million
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
feel
mike
is
done
in
our
departments
have
done
what
it
needs
to
keep.
The
expenses
are
underneath
the
the
goal,
and
we
beat
that
you
know
we
won
that
bet
last
three
or
four
years.
So,
if
you
know,
if
I
were
in
your
position,
I
wouldn't
feel
nervous
about,
because
we've
proven
it.
That's
just
my
opinion
and
my
shoes
are
still
on.
A
All
listed
it
right
now,
yeah,
okay,
well
so
I
mean
look
at
just
look
at
the
numbers.
Now,
what
is
in
the
order?
That's
called
cash
and
cash
equivalents
and
that's
made
up
with
a
lot
of
things
in
different
accounts
with,
but
this
all
the
things
that
you
see
in
the
general
fund
actuals
is
booked
to
that
general
fund,
the
rest
of
them.
You
could
see
a
separate.
We
separated
some
funds
about
1.4
million
in
2016
that
was
Economic
Development
Security
Fund
that
we
established
when
we
got
that
4.1
million
we
paid
off
some
loans.
A
The
difference
went
in
to
fund
number
13,
and
that's
where
that
is
reflected.
So
you
can
see
where
we
are
with
that
fun.
That's
really
considered
part
of
the
general.
You
know
general
fund
cash
and
cash
equivalents,
but
it's
there
to
use
without
restriction,
except
for
the
you
know,
we
said
we
would
like
to
have
a
repayment
of
that
to
maton.
A
You
know
to
keep
four
million
dollars
in
funding
the
balance,
not
cash,
one
balance,
so
that
one
point
four
was
the
residual
of
actually
paying
about
four
high
interest
loans,
often
as
if
we
would
have
paid
it
all
through
a
debt
service
that
should
have
been
replenishing.
Okay,
everybody
on
the
exam,
okay,
but
that's
still
cash
at
your
disposal.
Another
things
you
know
that
we
we
should
note
in
capital
projects.
A
You
know
we've
been
doing
dude,
you
know
every
other
week
we
meet
and
try
to
stay
60
days
ahead
in
cash
at
one
point
in
time.
You
know
and
right
now,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
you,
the
city
has
its
given
from
the
general
fund
to
capital
projects
to
pay
things,
so
that
do
to
do
from
is
that
by
five
point,
four
million
and
it
we've
got
some
cash
and
we
use
some
of
that
cash
as
we
roll
out
in
the
tune
of
about
1.5
to
2
million
dollars
a
month.
A
But
we
hope
we
keep
that
money
in
the
queue
from
Mima
and
FEMA
to
keep
that
so
cash
flows
won't
be
a
problem
when
we
to
finishing
up
of
the
North
contract
as
well
as
the
south
contract.
In
you
know
the
West
contract
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
may
come
up,
but
we
we
put
into
that
plan
is
the
ability
to
we
borrowed.
When
I
came
on
2015,
we
bought
11
million
dollars
a
grant
anticipated
alone,
grant
a
replenishment
loan.
We
paid
it
down
now.
It's
2.3
million.
A
G
D
A
We're
gonna
pay
that
off
you
know,
but
if
something
pops
and
we
you
know
something
unforeseen
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
that's
all
I
want
to
say
unforeseen,
but
because
I'm
not
gonna,
say
that
word,
okay,
but
so
there
are
some
options
we
have.
You
know
again.
The
general
fund
is
owed
some
money
capital
projects.
You
know
it
will
he'll
be
healthy
enough
to
do
things
as
well
as
pay
off
the
loan
that
we
did
in
order
to
pay
the
vendors.
G
H
G
B
A
A
That's
a
different
fund.
That's!
What's
that
we're
not
using
it!
That's
that's!
What's
there,
that's
all,
not
all
of
it
is
booked
to
the
old
one
fund.
Okay,
the
rest
of
it
is
payroll,
clearing
and
drug
forfeiture
and
stadium,
and
that
sort
of
thing
that's
just
a
rest.
When
they're
in
the
audit,
it
says
cash
and
cash
equivalents,
and
these
numbers
came
right
out
of
the
four
last
book.
So
that's
what
it
is.
That's
where.
B
A
A
Well,
you
know
what
it's
there
and
if
it,
if
it's
not
the
rules
we
can,
we
can
spend,
it
will
spend
it.
But
you
know
right
now,
in
this
budget,
we're
not
using
that
that
fund
does
those
monies
that
you
see
in
those
two
accounts
right
there,
the
two:
what
the
third
in
the
fourth
to
the
end,
fine,
okay,
now
so
on
West,
8th
and
would
you
say
about
to
save
that's.
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
Well,
you
can
see
what
happened
again
right
after
we
got
it
into.
You
know
the
four
point:
one
we
figured
out
what
things
we
could
pay
off
at
the
higher
rates.
We
took
that
cash
out
of
that
still
the
four
point
one.
So
it's
a
receivable
to
that
that
fun.
Yet
it
used
the
cash
to
pay
that
off
in
the
debt
service
that
was
cranking
out
how
much
a
year
we're
supposed
to
be
replenishing
that
money
and
that's
where
we
are
with
regard
to
that.
Okay,.
B
A
A
Is
really
considered
if
you
can
see
the
arts
is
considered
that
as
part
of
the
general
fund
cashing
in
cash
equivalents,
it's
it
could
be
done.
The
accounting
entry
is
not
the
oh
one
fund,
it's
a
13
fund,
but
I
mean
that's.
What
are
your
options
to
okay
yeah,
but
you
know
again
the
options
of,
and
we
have
all
of
these
budgets
in
at
the
time
that
was
done,
uses
you
know,
fund
balance
or
gain
a
loss,
and
that's
why
I'm
pointed
this
out.
A
In
the
last
few
years
we
put
over
three,
we
made
you
know,
revenues
over
expenses
to
the
point,
1
million
one
year
and
another
half
a
million.
If
you
look
at
the
actual
before
that,
maybe
even
more
so
it's
not
unreasonable
in
business.
You
would
say:
okay
I
made
some
money,
but
this
is
what
I'm
gonna
do
and
but
my
revenues
are
not
going
to
extend.
You
know
over
my
expenses
again,
so
we're
gonna
use
part
of
that
that
year-to-date
gain
loss
is
what
we're
reflective
in
this
in
this
proposed
budget.
Well,.
B
B
A
The
three
million
hours
over
the
last
two
years
and
we're
gonna
use
some
of
them
because
of
some
extraordinary
about
three
million
dollars
of
things
we
got
to
buy
and
that's
reflective
net
budget
three
point:
two
million
capital
items
as
well
as
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
additional
peers
requirement
for
us
to
pay
so
yeah.
So
it's
really
something
we
got
to
do.
We
just
happen
to
eat
it
out,
use
it
out
of
the
cache
or
year-to-date
fund
balances
that
we've
accrued.
A
H
It's
her
meeting.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right,
I,
just
to
be
sure,
I
understand
this
and
that
I
followed
it
because
I
can't
always,
as
I
said
earlier,
I
can't
always
hear
that
fast.
So
we're
looking
at
I,
don't
know
what
you
call
this
sheet,
but
we're
looking
at
this
sheet.
Mr.
mayor
gotcha,
okay,
so
if
you
look
at
fiscal
year
2017
the
projected
ending
cash
balance
right
was
four
minute
little
over
four
million
right.
All
right
and
the
actual
ending
cash
was
almost
six
point:
six
million
correct
now,
Seoul's
team.
H
We
projected
in
that
budget
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
years
where
we
looked
at
our
expenses
exceeding
revenue
that
year.
But
your
point
is,
since
we've
done
this
thirteen
out
of
the
last
seventeen
years
that
the
administration
more
or
less
applies
the
brakes.
There
are
some
things
in
the
budget
we
might
do
and
that
totals
whatever
our
projected
expenditures
are,
but
as
a
year
goes
on,
may
not
fill
some
positions.
H
H
E
H
Even
though
we
have
budgets
where
expenditures
exceed
revenues,
you've
managed
through
knots,
spending
some
dollars
here
and
there
to
save
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
that
particular
year.
We
projected
four
million.
We
ended
up
with
about
six
and
a
half
million.
Okay,
that's
all
we're
really
talking
about
each
year.
That's
right!
Here's
what
we
think
we're
going
to
spend
it's
our
plan,
we're
gonna,
spend
more
than
we
take
in
in
that
year's
revenue,
but
you're
still
sitting
on
some
cash
to
start.
H
A
H
G
G
E
H
A
More
process
as
we
go
through
the
fiscal
year,
so
right
now
we're
projecting
and,
and
you
know,
we've
we've
been
successful
and
we've
together,
we've
been
successful
in
trying
to
you
know
again
build
that
fund
balance.
Make
it
right
right
sign,
not
the
wrong
sign.
Some
things
happen
that
you
know
you
got
to
bite
the
boat,
but
we
have
the
ability
to
address
that.
You
know
all.
H
Right
now
let
me
this
is
a
what
this
is
a
stray
proton
question
totally
outta
left
field.
So
if
we
look
at
say
you
know,
I'd
really
like
to
see
de
bees
resurfaced
from
Pass
Road
EULA
Switzer
leased
the
Biloxi
side.
As
you
know,
that's
we
may
have
the
money
to
do
that
or
we
may
not
have
the
money.
It
depends
on
how
the
Year
unfolds,
that
would
be
a
capital
project
and
it's
not
on
the
list
now,
but
that's
maybe
a
future
item
or
something
we
could
talk
about.
Having.
H
Having
said
that,
I
do
have
a
question
for
I
guess:
either
you
or
Ken,
at
the
top
on
the
general
fund,
proposed
budgets
that
there's
an
a
line-item
other
financing
sources,
proceeds
loan,
paybacks
and
transfers
and
we're
projecting
1.9
million
for
next
year.
This
current
year
we
projected
2
million
in
fiscal
year
17.
It
was
three
hundred
and
sixty-six
thousand
what
all
comprises
that
funding
source.
What
and
why
has
it
risen
significantly
in
the
past
four.
A
D
D
D
A
D
H
Previous
year
right
and
will
that
be
realized
in
this
fiscal
year?
Yes,
okay
and
and
also
some
reason,
I'd,
you
know,
heard
something
about
the
the
Port
Commission
when
the
the
city
assumed
the
Port
Commission
that
we
assumed
some
debt
there
somewhere
I,
don't
know
what
that
amount
was,
but
that
is
this
may
be
new
city,
but
this
is
in
my
correct
and
I.
Don't
know
what
the
amount
was,
but
it's
some
at
some
point.
We
might
see
reimbursement
from
the
port,
the
port,
okay,.
A
E
A
H
So
I
guess
it
would
be
fair
to
say
the
point
you're
trying
to
make
is.
We
do
have
new
firefighters
that
were
hiring.
We've
got
a
got
purse
and
contribution.
We've
got
to
capitalize
some
of
these
purchases
that
are
spread
out
over
multiple
years,
but
pretty
much
this
budget.
It's
not
that
much
different
from
the
previous
several
years.
That.
H
A
It
would
be
to
me
to
somehow
you
know
this
disability.
You
have
to
tie
all
three
things
together,
not
just
revenues
and
expenses,
and
the
whole
thing
is
actually
you
know,
along
with
debt
service,
is
part
of
the
planned
reasonable
budget.
This
is
a
reasonable
budget,
reasonable
more
than
reasonable,
and
to
address
some
of
the
things
that
will
we'll
need
to
do
to
you
know
to
maintain
operations
to
provide
the
services
that
we
have
to
do
and
again
keep
our
quality
of
life.
My.
A
H
B
Brings
about
about
deployed
several
years
ago,
the
port
was
Sydney's
totally
separate
from
the
city.
It
was
run
by
a
board
city
had
nothing
to
do
with
it
when
he
got
a
lot
of
trouble
financially
is
when
the
city
took
it
over,
so
he
did
assume
a
debt
with
the
port
from
the
regular
another
regime,
which
was
there
on.
B
Thing
when
a
13
out
of
17
years
I've
been
here
for
17
years
y'all
talking
about
and
if
you
go
back
and
pay
attention
Mike
we
pass
some
of
those
times.
We
voted
against
some
of
them
because
they
had
no
general
fund.
They
had
no
money
like
8
million,
they
didn't
have
it
at
50,000
60,000,
so
they
didn't
have
the
money
to
back
it
up.
There,
106
million
and
8
million
general
fund
said
they
were
10
million.
When
they
passed
half
those
budgets,
they
had
no
money
behind
it,
hoping
that
to
get
break-even.
A
A
Now,
whether
you
want
to
call
it
unbalanced
to
balance,
but
it's
a
reasonable
budget
based
on
what
we
have
to
do
in
September
4th
to
start
business
in
October
and
go
to
the
next
year
and
once
you're
in
business
that
next
year,
you've
got,
you
got
a
gain,
a
loss
to
HAMP
to
do
something
with
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
doing
that
2
million
dollars
from
last
year.
What
a
file
meeting
it's
all
bet
found
you
know
found
in
fund
balance,
it's
where
business
operates
and
that's
the
way
I
mean
you
got
to
buy.
G
B
G
G
G
B
A
A
A
You're
missing
to
a
couple
of
things
that
what
we
did,
we
were
old,
17
million
dollars
in
2015
when
I
came
on
board
to
the
federal
government.
Okay,
we
borrowed
a
lot
of
me,
so
we
could
it's
going
so
well.
You
got
to
put
the
whole
thing
in
perspective,
the
deficit
budgets
and
not
what
we're
talking
about
here.
One
part
of
the
operation
over
is
more
than
the
other,
but
we
got
the
cash
to
finish.
It
is
not
a
deficit
budget.
You.
A
D
D
B
Revenue
side
it
was
inflate
yeah,
actually
all
I
mean
they
went
to
a
lot
of
trouble
to
get
the
money
was
a
great
thing.
You
get
to
hold
mills
two
million
dollars,
we
get
five
runs
out
and
basically
pay
off
the
bond
that
we
had,
but
not
as
1.5
million
additional
money.
You
cannot
go
into
a
port
where
you
could
save
money
like
Laura
port
he's,
not
loaning.
You
got
me
and
half
the
play
would,
but
you
use
that
money
somewhere
else
in
the
city
out
of
the
port.
D
A
D
A
Paying
yeah
that's
right,
and
then
there
are
some
things
that
could
happen.
We
expect
to
happen
with
regard
to
grants
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
would
do
in
order
to
rebuild
a
harbor
or
rebuild
a
boardwalk
or
those
kinds
of
things.
That's
the
intent.
Anything
happened
on
the
waterfront
that
would
be
under
that
auspices
of
that
that
fun
you're
at
you're
at
a
cash
and
as
you
get
the
cash
you
you
book
the
revenue
we
can
plan
on
three
point:
three
hundred
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
every
quarter,
375.
B
B
B
A
B
G
E
Well,
one
thing:
I,
like
Madam
President:
we
need
a
little
help
with
the
non
department
budget.
It's
not
big
dollars,
but
in
the
last
couple
of
workshops,
we've
talked
around
and
around,
but
not
made
any
decisions.
So
what
I
would
what
I
would
say
to
you?
Is
you
each
have
a
copy
at
your
place
of
the
non
Department
budget
as
it
stands
today,
if
there
is
any
interest
there
with
whether
it
be
CTA
libraries,
museums,
whatever
is
anything
anything
on
there
that
you
don't
accept
as
a
group?
E
E
J
I
So,
unless
there's
something,
but
in
2017,
our
operating
budget
just
base
was
280
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
and
in
2018
that
went
to
280
to
800,
which
is
$2,100
increase
than
1%
yeah,
and
then
we
added
a
34
480
on
to
that.
For
that
D'iberville
realm,
that
the
Opera
bill
right
route
was
67.
I
went
back
through
my
notes
that
total
D'iberville
route
originally
was
67
thousand
five
hundred
dollars.
That's
from
Pass
Road
all
the
way
into
D
Iberville,
so
we
paid
34:8
and
that
got
us
to
the
D'iberville
line.
G
I
You
take
that
320
and
you
subtract
that
317
680,
which
is
a
two
thousand
three
hundred
and
twenty
dollar
increase,
and
you
add
the
23,
650
and
D'iberville
is
eleven
thousand,
and
that
gets
you
to
the
sixty
seventy
five.
So
really,
if
you
take
the
D'iberville
out
route
out
of
it
in
2018,
we
increase
2,100
and
in
2019
we
increased
two
thousand
two
thousand
three
hundred
and
something
dollars.
So
we've
really
only
increased
them.
I
A
I
A
F
G
B
G
B
J
A
J
E
A
B
That
separately,
another
one
was
I
know.
Last
year
we
went
through
contract
with
old
Keith
in
micro
that
was
$25,000
for
the
maintenance
and
we
wrote
a
contract
to
do
that.
So
why
is
there
not
twenty-five
thousand
here
you
got
fifty
thousand
the
contract
state.
We
put
up,
25
thousand
a
put
up,
25
thousand
and.
E
K
K
B
G
H
D
D
D
B
L
L
D
L
K
D
B
G
G
E
L
K
E
E
G
E
Give
them
upfront
25,000
for
them
to
do
om
on
their
buildings
and
equipment,
but
we
retain
the
responsibility,
as
the
you
know,
owner
of
the
building,
if
you
will
to
take
care
of
the
fire
alarm,
the
fire
suppression
system
in
the
elevator,
which
costs
us
another
25
grand
based
on
this
year,
so
we
give
them
25
and
then
we
pay
for
these
other
things.
We
spend
about
twenty
five
thousand
doing
these
three
other
things.
E
E
Here,
when
that
happened,
councilman,
but
we
leased
the
building,
we
leased
the
building,
probably
I'm,
only
guessing,
because
when
the
big
grants
that
came
down
from
Jackson
years
ago
to
build
the
place
in
order
for
them
to
be
qualified
for
those
grants,
the
city
had
to
have
an
ownership
interest.
Unless
I
assume
that's
the.
Why?
What
we
leased
the
building?
It's
a
very
convoluted
arrangement
that
we
talk
about
every
year.
E
We
always
forget
about
it
till
it's
the
end
of
the
next
year,
but
the
we
own,
the
land
they
own,
the
building
we
leased
the
building
back
from
them
and,
as
a
result,
we
feel
we
have
a
responsibility
to
at
least
take
care
of
the
things
like
the
elevator,
the
maintenance,
the
yeah.
Well,
we
didn't
get
it
at
our
alarm
in
this
and
the
suppress
fire
suppression
system
so
a
place
that
burned
down
and
and
I've
got
those
documents
as
three
inches
thick
documents
to
talk
about
this
peculiar
arrangement
that
we
have
and
the.
E
What
I,
what
I'd
suggest
is
that
we
have
our
city
attorney,
read
up
on
this
and
brief
you
on
the
exact
ownership
situation,
but
it's,
but
it's
pretty
clear
in
the
documents
that
I
have
that
we
lease
the
building
back
and
they
therefore
responsible
for
some
care
of
it.
We
lease
the
building
back.
Unlike
the
seafood
museum,
we.
B
E
Okay,
but
it
but
the
elevator
is
half
the
size
of
the
one
at
the
or
the
or
Museum
is
the
tallest
elevator
in
the
city
of
Biloxi,
which
on
the
three-story
wharf
or
goes
for
stops
at
8,000
square
feet
as
opposed
to
the
seafood
museum?
That's
a
one-stop
elevator!
So
it's
just
a
much
more
complicated
machinery.
E
B
G
B
G
B
Leaked
and
the
electrician
was
terrible,
so
I
mean
that's
something
that
he's
gotta
adjust
some
on
another.
But
I
was
my
thing.
Is
you
had
a
twenty
five
five
dollar
contractor?
You
moved
it
to
50,
so
now
you
need
here.
Either
we
get
that
contract
written.
If
you
have
all
the
rest
of
the
stuff
and
put
that
in
there
could
look
like
the
maintenance.
Twenty-Five
thousand
now,
usually
it's
fifty.
So
you
need
to
write
it,
including
all
that
so.
E
We
all
know
that
there's
not
a
number
that
number
25
is
in
the
management
agreement.
The
management
agreement
also
defines
that
the
parts
of
the
building
that
we're
responsible
the
systems
were
responsible
for
maintaining,
but
there's
not
a
number,
because
it
changes.
One
of
the
reasons
why
it's
going
from
20
to
25
this
year
is
based
on
our
historical
spend.
There's
this
last
year.
Listen!
Here's
your's
the
deal
if
the
council
is
uncomfortable
with
any
of
these
numbers
in
here,
make
a
motion
and
take
a
vote
this.
This
is
our
proposal
to
you
and.
J
L
This
is
why
the
city
is
very
happy
that
being
able
to
have
a
much
better
handle
than
than
we
than
we
had
in
the
past
and
we're
dealing
with
HC
air
conditioning
systems
that
are
like
twelve
years
old
and
and
they
weren't
properly
maintained,
t'n
go
through
maintenance,
and
so
we
are
putting
a
lot
more
money
beyond
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
just
getting
that
place
going.
It
is
a
lot
of
trouble
as
far
as
that
old
building
and
so
we're
dealing
with
maritime.
L
You
know
something
salt
in
the
air
and
things
like
that
and-
and
it's
been
very,
very
difficult
just
with
keeping
the
place
going
and
even
today,
we've
got
air
conditioned
and
air
conditioning
that's
out
in
the
two
of
our
galleries,
so
I
have
to
get
those
fixed
today
so
that
just
it's
a
constant
thing
that's
happening
to
us.
So
we
are
putting
a
lot
of
our
own
money
back
into
the
maintenance
and
repair
of
the
building.
Here's.
B
L
L
L
L
Just
to
keep
us
going
because
we're
one
of
the
things
that
the
O'keefe
people
are
doing
is
they're
paying
for
almost
half
of
what
we're
paying
for
with
our
operations,
and
they
have
a
corpus
that
they're
working
with
us
and
that
money
is
going
down
so
that
you
know
in
many
years
in
the
future,
we're
looking
at
a
point
where
we
won't
have
any
money
at
all
for
this
museum
and
we
got
to
keep
it
going.
So
the
thing
that
happened
when
they
were
building
the
whole
place
in
the
first
efforts.
L
They
didn't
do
an
endowment
with
this
whole
thing
and
like
when
you
have
a
campaign,
you
should
at
least
have
10%
of
any
of
your
gifts
going
towards
an
endowment,
so
I,
don't
know
why
they
didn't
do
an
endowment.
But
now
we
have
something
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
sustain
the
building.
The
whole
museum
campus
going
inevitably
I
have.
L
H
H
E
B
K
We
told
would
give
up
or
jump
down,
no,
no,
not
at
all,
go
for
it.
Well,
given
zero
right
now,
we've
been
working
closely
with
the
Salvation
Army
and
trying
to
bring
it
right
back
where
it
originated
in
the
neighborhood.
So
that's
the
whole
goal
to
Ghana,
especially
with
the
streets
reopening.
We
want
to.
K
J
A
I
The
the
only
other
question
I
have
is
on
the
libraries
and
I.
Don't
want
this
to
be
taken
as
Nathan's
against
the
libraries
but
I'm
looking
at
the
sheet
that
they
gave
us
and
we've
consistently
given
a
larger
amount
than
any
other
city
on
the
coast.
I
understand
we
have
four
libraries,
but
our
population
doesn't
even
come
close
to
Gulf
ports,
so
we
have
four
libraries
servicing
servicing
45,000,
but
Gulfport
has
two
that
services.
However
many
thousand
they
have,
which
is
significantly
higher.
They
pay
about
a
little
bit
over
half
of
what
we
pay.
I
I
I
I
A
I
A
H
K
H
K
I
H
H
Okay,
so
so
so
they'll
have
I
would
assume
new
technology.
My
point
is:
you've
got
to
replace
your
technology
in
a
timely
manner
and
what
you
heard
from
the
library.
The
last
time
we
met
to
talk
about
the
library
was
they're
dealing
with
computers
that
are
9
10
11
years
old.
If
you
had
a
computer
like
that
at
your
house,
you'd
use
it
for
a
doorstop
or
an
anchor
for
your
bass
boat.
E
D
C
H
F
K
K
G
K
I
I
J
H
And
I'll
follow
that
with
that
the
city
could
have
not.
The
city
could
have
just
as
easily
not
built
the
library
and
spent
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
at
twenty
five
thousand
a
year
for
the
next
ten
years,
which
would
Ken
would
have
had
to
account
for
properly
and
bought
new
computers.
So
there's
there's
sitting
and
that's
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make.
Can
we
give.
B
J
H
H
C
A
J
A
J
I
I
G
J
Point
is
the
largest:
the
largest
contributors
are
either
staying
flat
or
decreasing
their
contributions
if
they
come
to
a
Biloxi
who
pays
what
near
three-fourths
of
the
entire
cost
and
asked
us
to
increase,
to
make
up
for
the
difference
of
all
the
other
people's
reductions.
I
think
that
that's
equitably,
unfair
I
think
that
we
need
to
maintain
what
we
give
them
or
even
reduce
it
and
make
the
other
jurisdictions
that
participate
in
the
Harrison
County
Library
system
step
their
game
up.
J
K
We're
still
in
the
comment
period,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
madam
president,
yeah
it's
about
services
and,
like
I,
said
if
they
have
to
they're
paying
for
two.
We
we
just
so
happened
to
have
what
how
many
four!
So
it's
about
services
to
the
citizens
and
that's
what
it
all
boils
down
to
now.
If
we're
gonna
reduce
the
services,
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
cut
a
lobby
area.
That's
my
opinion.
You
want
to
cut
the
money
cut
the
lobby,
hers.
B
But
I
wasn't
even
say
anything
up,
but
we're
not
cutting
services
to
give
him
seven
hundred
seventy
thousand
dollars.
Nobody,
we
give
seven
on
seven
thousand
dollars
to
nobody,
so
we're
not
cutting
anything.
You
actually
adding
twelve
Thailand
from
year
before
and
we're
giving
them
12
dollars
again
this
year
they
buy
more
computers.
That's
all
they
wanted
us
to
do.
That's
what
we're
doing
you're,
not
cutting
anything.
Okay,.
J
I
I
I
K
K
We
know
to
salvation
only
charges
to
get
in
to
get
in,
but
what
they
wanted
to
do
is
kind
of
open
the
door
for
all
the
kids
in
the
community
to
come
in
and
have
access
and
and
play
they've
humbly
asked
for
a
possible
donation
to
do
that,
and
if
the
city
would
consider
somewhere
around
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
open
up,
they
do
it
to
the
whole
community.
They
haven't
been
doing
it
in
the
past
and
I.
Just
wanted
us
to
kind
of
off,
beat
it
around
the
bush
and
think
about
that
request.
It.
E
B
K
E
B
A
K
B
A
K
B
G
H
H
E
H
E
E
H
E
E
B
G
B
A
You
be
covered,
I.
Think
dr.
Tisdale
meant
hit
on
something,
though
that
is
a
good
bang
for
the
buck.
I
mean
that's
something
that's
needed,
and
those
kinds
of
services
I
mean
I'll,
be
personally,
you
know,
I
think
they
have
room
for
like
40
folks,
40
40,
and
it's
well
done
well
wrapped.
Nobody
knows
anything
about
it,
they
protect
everybody
knows
it
a
protection.
A
And
the
probably
the
the
need
for
that,
those
kind
of
you
know
services,
you
know
with
the
homeless
and
homeless,
families
and
homeless,
everything
and
and
again,
that
you
know
the
mastic
situations
that
we
run
across
you
know
I
would,
if
we're
only
in
there
through
CDBG.
You
know
that
additional
25,000,
yes.
A
A
A
A
Well,
you
know
what
we've
been:
we've
asked
to
reduce
that
4.7
million
by
25
and
in
another
one
about
288,
think
that
can
be
well
used
that
additional
15,000
in
at
four
point,
seven
I've
been
I'm,
not
trying
to
talk
to
you,
but
this.
If
you
haven't
seen
this
this
operation
and
it
takes
some
hoops
to
get
into
it-
cuz
you're
not
not
supposed
to
be
visible.
It's
something
you're
do
is
visit
at
one
time
and
you'll
see.
A
B
E
A
At
you,
okay,
we've
developing
a
five-year
plan
right
for
CDBG.
Okay.
If
it's
a
one-time
$15,000
hit
out
an
on
the
department
in
the
next
its
cycle
five
years,
it
would
mean
I
would
be
an
advocate
of
funding
that
more
than
ten
thousand
so
I
mean
again
we'll
do
our
deal.
I
mean
it's
something
that
it's
very
important
and
you
just
visit
it.
One
time
and
you'll
see
well.
B
G
C
A
D
G
B
A
B
All
it
was
it's
just
a
number
and
honestly
I
think
on
the
thing
with
the
old
keep
I.
Think
Mike's
right,
leading
is
look
at
that
contract.
I
mean
we
got
a
car.
We
got
a
25
thousand
dollar
contract.
You
need
Apollo.
If
we
have
to
how
much
that's
gonna
cost
it's
the
same
thing
you
come
back
and
do
it,
but
we
already
did
one
can
I
try
to
take
care
that
they
wouldn't
do
that.
Evidently,
so
you
need
somebody's
explained
to
all
of
us.
Either
we
own
the
building,
we're
on
the
bill.