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From YouTube: Biloxi City Council Budget Meeting Aug 10 2021
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B
We
need
to
open
the
meeting
again,
there's
a
motion
about
mr
lawrence
in
a
second
by
mr
barrett
that
we
can
keep
the
motion
straight
all
right
and-
and
this
is
where
I
note
again-
that
no
action
was
taken
in
executive
session.
It
brings
us
let's
vote
on
that,
please
to
enter
a
regular
meeting,
we're
voting
on
reopening
the
meeting.
A
B
E
The
only
thing
I
want
to
just
touch
on
is,
I
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
the
budget
a
little
bit
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
cover
it
under.
My
report
is
on
parks
and
recreation.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
an
allocation
a
little
bit
more
for
capital
for
aj
holloway
sports
plex.
There's
some
significant
equipment,
fences
repairs
that
that
need
to
that
rapidly
need
to
be
taken
care
of,
if
not
we're
going
to
lose
that
park,
and
it's
going
to
cost
us
a
lot
more
in
the
long
run.
N
Yes
tonight
at
5
30
I'm
going
to
have
a
ward
meeting
concerning
activities
in
the
community,
and
I
encourage
others
to
come
on
out.
We
have
been
having
some
acts
in
there
that
are
unwarranted
and
just
asking
the
community
and
including
any
council
members
who
want
to
show
up
to
come
on
out.
Thank
you.
Thank.
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We'll
hear
any
citizens
comments,
each
individual
will
be
afforded
three
minutes
to
address
the
council,
a
reminder.
It's
not
a
question
and
answer
session
we'll
set
aside
up
to
a
total
of
45
minutes
more
citizens
comments.
Is
there
anybody
on
my
right,
your
left?
Nobody!
Anybody
on
my
left,
your
right!
Nobody!
Anybody
in
the
back
outstanding
three
for
three!
B
That
brings
us
to
the
policy
agenda
and
the
subject
matter
is
this
year's
or
the
fiscal
year
22
proposed
budget
we'll
be
covering
today,
we'll
be
covering
different
departments
and
their
budgets
and
following
that
we'll
have
a
presentation
from
the
coast,
transit
authority.
Cta.
Thank
you
for
being
here
today,
all
right.
Let's
start
off
with
the
water
and
sewer
department,
mr
leonard.
A
O
We
have
a
draft
budget
from
the
harrison
county
development,
harrison
county
utility
authority-
that's
built
that
our
budget
is
built
into
so
that
that
won't
go
positive,
obviously
until
they
vote
until
that
board
votes
on
it.
But
we're
building
our
budget
based
on
their
resumed
budget
for
our
water
and
sewer
costs.
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O
Per
year,
over
the
previous
four
years,
we
finally
have
built
the
water
sewer
fund
enterprise
fund
into
a
positive
territory
and
were,
unlike
five
years
ago,
we're
not
going
to
the
state
to
borrow
money.
Well,
we're
not
going
to
to
sell
bonds
to
do
water
sewer
projects
we're
actually
able
to
do
them
based
on
our
earnings
in
a
war
sewer
fund.
M
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M
Let
me
jump
in
too
based
on
lieutenant
governor's
conversation.
We
came
up
with
24
million
dollars
in
plan
water
and
sewer
plans.
Extension
is
billy
ray
set
up
of
shriners,
which
would
engage
in
and
wind
up
with
more
water
and
sewer
customers,
but
there
are
24
million
dollars.
That's
part
of
this
water
and
sewer
100
1.5,
something
billion
that's
coming
down
based
on
the
allocation,
in
other
words,
we're
looking
like
a
for
the
24
thousand
dollars.
M
We
may
get
an
11
million
dollar
match
to
do
these
projects,
but
we
have
identified
for
our
legislative
folks
as
well
as
lieutenant
governor
24
million
dollars
in
project,
that
being
one
of
them,
that's
about
a
million
yeah
and
about
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
immediately
actually
two
wells,
one
right
by
the
broad
water
and
another
one.
The
second
one
is
by
the
broadway,
the
other
one's
off
the
pass
road,
but
yeah.
M
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M
That
goes
on
for
about
30
years
is
the
course
of
the
you
know:
the
debt
service
that
we
refinanced
that
went
from
about
five
percent,
plus
a
20
million
dollar,
swap
that
was
another
story
back
when
you
know
that
debt
actually
interest
rates
were
off
the
hook,
and
there
was
a
stabilization
that
swap
us
for
the
stabilization,
but
that's
all
done
so.
We've
actually
enjoying
in
this
budget
and
future
budgets.
A
reduction
in
that
debt
service
to
the
tune
of
a
million
plus
a
year.
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No,
it
was
a
lyft
station
because
they
they
had
a
lagoon
right
there
in
the
city
of
hansboro
and
they
realized
that
it
wasn't
going
to
be
sufficient.
So
they
went
ahead
and
tied
it
back
into
the
gulfport
lift
station,
and
then
they
reactivated
the
four
swing
that
goes
to
the
west
biloxi
treatment
plant
all
through
harrison
county
wastewater.
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We
got
some
ideas
on
renovating
it.
Maybe
a
part
of
some
educational
opportunities
there
we're
not
gonna
touch
the
the
scada
equipment.
That's
already
there
so
it'll
be.
You
know
an
opportunity
to
maybe
do
some
courses
and
so
forth,
like
that,
and
we
we're
searching
that
with
both
the
usm
as
well
as
mississippi
gulf
coast.
You
know
community
college
stuff,
so
the
building's
there
we're
not
gonna
touch
it.
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One
complete
piece
of
property
that
you
know
we've
been
kind
of
having
some
some
conversations
about
what
is
needed
as
far
as
parking,
especially
second
judicial
courthouse,
but
most
of
that
equipment
that
can
be
stored
in
you
know
what
we
talked
about
on
crawford
street.
So
some
of
the
stuff
that's
out
in
in
the
air
now
may
be
really
relocated
to
crawford
street
in
in
johnson
diesel.
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You
know
to
give
you
the
tools
to
to
do
your
job,
there's
a
lot
of,
and
it's
well
documented
in
these
meetings,
but
it's
important
to
talk
about
them
in
these
budget
meetings,
a
lot
of
areas
and
I'll
just
name
a
few
gay
road,
mr
l
thompson,
there's
a
just
a
low
lying:
ditch,
it
cannot
be
a
wetland
area
hasn't
been
cleaned
out.
According
to
him.
I
don't
know
in
a
few
decades.
How
do
we,
you
know?
How
do
we
get
these
projects
or
do
you
have
them
identified?
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M
Yes,
sir,
okay,
let
me
jump
in,
and
nathan
touched
upon
some
things
and
I
think
everyone
touched
upon.
We
actually
put
some
significant
contractual
services,
so
if
we
can,
as
we
mentioned,
cutting
using
a
contract,
a
contract,
a
third-party
person
to
do
ditches-
and
you
know
we
buy
the
foot
by
the
linear
foot-
but
it
becomes
a
scheduling-
I
think
we-
you
know
the
additional
10
folks
will
address.
You
know
you
know
what
needs
to
be
done,
how
many
times
it
needs
to
be
done.
You
know,
especially
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
grounds
care.
M
E
Is
there
a
coordination
with
the
county
with
their
vast
resources
that
seem
to
be
more
than
ours
to
coordinate,
because
we
are
a
part
of
the
county
right
mayor
coordinator
to
coordinate
our
efforts
as
a
team
and
say
our
maintenance
program?
Is
this
and
your
maintenance
and
resource
program
is
what
what
it
is?
Can
those
two
kind
of
coordinate
together
or
is
that
there's
some
difficulty
in
that
sometimes
sometimes,
okay,.
G
E
I
I
totally
agree
and-
and
it
seems
like-
and
this
is
my
perspective
over
the
last
eight
years-
that
there's
a
everybody
wakes
up
and
there's
good
intentions.
The
county
has
good
intention.
City
has
good
intentions
as
far
as
public
works
and
their
county
crew,
but
it
just
seems
to
be
missing
that
we're
working
on
two
different.
You
know
two
different
plans
and
it's
so
essential.
E
I
know
they
got
other
cities
and
and
areas,
but
if,
if
we
had
a
coordinated
effort
on
what
our
annual
plan
is,
it
just
seems
like
it
would
be
better,
and
I
don't
know
how
we
move
that
needle
you
know.
But
there's
there
has
to
be
a
breakthrough
on
that
for
us
to
operate
at
peak
efficiency
and
probably
cure
some
angst
with
your
department
and
I'm
sure
their
department
too.
G
Another
example
is
the
bees
road
that
was
a
partnership
between
the
city,
biloxi,
county
and
gulfport,
and
so
the
county
guy
calls
me.
I
go
ahead
and
set
him
up
for
the
manhole
risers,
because
they
was
lifting
it
up
inch
and
a
half
two
inches
and
he
comes
by
the
shop
and
we
give
him
the
risers.
We
make
out
a
service
request,
a
work
order
showing
and
charging
them
to
where
they
go
at,
and
then
he
gets
out
there
in
the
day
of
the
pavement.
G
E
I
think
I
totally
understand.
I
hope
that
we
can
move
into
finding
the
way
to
be
able
to
bridge
that
gap.
I
understand
it
yes,
sir,
and
I'm
not
pointing
fingers
somebody's
wrong.
I'm
just
saying
we
could
be
better
if
we
find
a
way
to
bridge
that
gap,
and
I
understand
that
they're
they're,
the
county,
we're
the
city
and
sometimes
that.
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B
Budget
we'll
move
to
legislative.
I
reviewed
the
legislative
budget
with
the
council
clerks,
mr
glavin.
I
think
mr
deming
expressed
the
same
interest
and
that
would
be
adding
addition
additional
funds
in
in
case
the
council,
wanted
to
get
an
outside
attorney,
so
to
speak,
to
get
a
different
opinion
or
or
an
opinion
of
legislation,
or
had
a
legal
question
or
whatever
or
wanted
to
look
at
some
sort
of
accounting
question
or
study
or
whatever.
You
may
have
other
things
in
mind.
B
O
E
M
Before
let
me
say,
you
know,
we've
kind
of
been
very
strict
and
structured
on
how
we've
been
attacking
you
know
when
I
took
office
in
in
the
budget
in
the
legal
department,
you
know
comes
from
being
tight
on
what
we
do
as
and
we
actually
did
some
bidding.
So
I
mean
I
would
respectfully
kind
of
would
ask
peter
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
do
before
I
would.
You
know
you
know,
throw
35
000
an
issue.
M
I
mean
it
needs
to
be
well
attacked
and
well
coordinated,
and
you
know
if
you
have
questions,
I
mean
the
structure
we
have
can
address
those
things.
You
know
peter
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
with
you
know
how
we've
been
attacking
legal
services
and
you
can
you
can
notice
that
we're
you
know
moving
in
in
a
downward
direction.
So
less
is
more
in
in
this
case,
and
I
would
kind
of
caution
everybody
to
let's
get
together
and
see
where
the
need
is
and
address
it.
D
Yeah,
I'd
more
or
less
caution
you,
I
think,
there's
an
ag
opinion
that
says
the
council
cannot
hiring
outside
attorneys.
If
you
wanted
to
do
something
like
this,
you
might
have
some
extra
money
in
the
mayor's
budget
that
y'all
could
draw
on
through
there
I
mean
I,
I
just
heard
the
possibility
of
this,
and
somebody
had
sent
me
the
ag
opinion
saying:
there's
not
really
a
mechanism
for
that
it,
but
this
could
cover
any
type
professional.
So
you
know
how
it's
done
or
how
it's
formulated.
D
B
So
well
it
and
it
might
it
may
not
on
my
understanding
is
there
was
legislation
passed
and-
and
I
may
misunderstand
my
understanding-
was
there-
was
legislation
passed
a
couple
of
years
ago
that
permits
the
councils
or
aldermen
to
secure
legal
services
or
accounting
services?
For
that
matter,
I
think
mr
glavin's
intent
is.
I
don't
view
it
in
that
restrictive
light.
I
think
it's
for
any
kind
of
professional
services.
B
If
we
want
another
opinion,
I
think
there
are
some
on
the
council
who
may
feel
that
you
represent
the
administration
and,
to
that
extent,
what
you
know
your
opinions
may
be
filtered
in
that
respect.
I
have
a
good
relationship
with
you.
I
think
everybody
here
has
a
good
relationship
with
you
that
I'm
aware
of,
but
sometimes
maybe
a
second
opinion
the
council
may
feel
is
warranted,
whether
it's
an
accounting
issue,
a
budgeting
issue
or
any
other
services
for
that
matter.
M
Let
me
let
me
jump
back
again
and
now
what
peter
does
you
know,
there's
also
about
five
other
rfps
that
we
talk
to
in
different
areas
of
legal.
So
I
mean
it
really
needs
to
be
fit.
I
mean
I,
you
know
where,
where
it's
proper
and
needed,
you
know,
you
know
just
there's
a
lot
of
areas
that
we
need
to
cover
and
just
instead
of
you
know
winding
up
crossways
with.
E
I
believe
when
we
were
contemplating
the
baseball
stadium
years
ago
and
the
I
don't
know
what
bucket
they
got,
the
money
out
or
we
we
actually
grew
out
of,
but
we
actually
brought
in
an
attorney
to
kind
of
review,
the
feasibility
study
and
and
what
we
were
doing
to
make
sure
that
it
made
sense
and-
and
it
may
not
be
an
attorney
like
paul
said
it
could
be
an
accountant
opinion
second
opinion,
or
what
have
you
it's
just
earmarking
a
number.
We
may
never
never
even
touch
it.
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Reassuring
and
yet
terrifying,
it's
always
just
something:
there's
always
something
added
to
everything.
You
know
not
saying
anything
against
anybody.
Just
sometimes
we
need
to
sit
down
and
have
these
discussions
ourselves
with
the
council,
because
we
build
on
all
this
stuff.
We
pass
all
this
something
you
know,
and
sometimes
we
need
a
little
different
looking
than
what
penny
gives
us,
not
nothing
again,
peter
sometimes
he's
right.
You
know,
so
that's
not
bad,
but
I'm
just
saying.
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Oh
there
we
go
pretty
much
like
miss
glavin,
said
better
to
have
it
and
not
need
it
than
need
it
and
not
have
it.
So
I
think
that's
a
valid
point,
because
there
do
come
times
where
we
may
have
to
have
something.
I
don't
think
we
probably
will,
but
at
least
we'll
have
it
in
the
budget.
So
that
concludes
my
comments.
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B
Money
there's
actually
that
much
difference
it's
salary
and
benefits
exclusively.
I
believe
yeah.
It
was
a
big
chunk.
I
think
the
net
was
with
her
salary
and
the
value
of
her
benefits
that
and
the
difference
between
the
new
guy
coming
in
with
what
a
year
two's
experience
in
the
city,
she
left
with
a
bunch,
a
ton
so
yeah.
That's
that
accounts
for
the
entire
difference.
L
So
we're
staying
throughout
the
city
since
we
hired
a
lot
of
new
people
that
looked
like
some
of
these
spaces.
In
all
these
different,
the
sorry,
we
should
go
down
because
you're
hiring
20
new
people
at
the
lower
end
and
you're
losing
people
at
the
high
end.
So
why
not
reflect
on
that?
In,
like
the
total
budget.
M
M
L
B
B
B
M
To
fill
them
and
again,
keep
in
mind
mike
will
probably
reiterate
this,
but
that's
one.
You
know
we
had
a
number
of
vacancies
in
the
middle
covert
that
we
kind
of
put
the
brakes
on.
I
was
still
part
of
the
budget
right,
but
the
actual
versus
you
know
budgeted
some
of
those
vacancies
that
are
being
filled
now
or
why
these
numbers
have
done
what
they
needed.
B
And
just
and
just
keeping
an
eye
on
the
job
postings,
my
guess
is
at
any
given
time
in
the
city,
probably
three
to
five
percent.
At
least
three
to
five
percent
of
the
positions
are
probably
empty,
so
there's
no
money
going
out
for
those
positions
until
they're
filled
that's
going
to
vary
from
month
to
month.
I'm
sorry
mike
go
ahead.
Well,.
B
O
Yeah
well,
as
you
see
when
we
get
to
some
of
these
other
departments,
you
know
we're
still
at
a
point
of
in
many
cases,
have
have
very
senior
people
have
gone
away
and
been
replaced
by
junior
people
or
not
replaced
at
all.
Yet
so
we're
very
much
in
flux.
In
in
the
personnel
world
I
mean
even
in
the
admin
department,
we've
had
two
or
three
people
in
the
county
leave
and
come
back
and
rehired.
O
J
B
Anything
else
in
the
I
think
we
were
earmarking
if,
if,
if,
if
the
administration
would
note
that
we're
looking
at
putting
38
35
000
other
services
and
charges,
maybe
we
use
it?
Maybe
we
don't
but
it'll,
be
there.
Okay.
That
brings
us
to
the
legal
and
courts.
Mr
abide
mike,
you
may
want
to
give
us
an
overview
and
peter
could
probably
answer
any.
D
D
L
L
C
M
B
Air
time
here
I'll
make
the
observation,
and
according
to
the
figures,
I'm
looking
at
based
on
the
kaffir
cost
and
just
in
personnel
services
in
court
and
legal
in
fiscal
year
17,
it
was
a
little
under
a
million
dollars
at
975,
000
and
what's
proposed
for
next
year,
is
845
000,
the
total?
That's
that's.
Just
personnel
cost
the
total
budget
for
legal
fiscal
year.
17
was
2.2
million
and
we're
looking
at
roughly
a
tad.
B
D
D
M
Ago
and
then
we
went
from
two
full-time
judges
after
we,
you
know
we
addressed
that
that
bump
in
what
it
was
going
to
take
based
on
the
lawsuit,
the
aclu
suit
16.
Was
it
2016,
where
there's
a
additional
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
that
operation
based
on
the
yeah?
You
know
the
settlement
of
that
suit
and
then
I
think
in
march
of
18,
when
when
did
the
the
lawsuit
go
away,.
D
B
So
all
right,
so
that
doesn't
come
out
of
the
the
judge
bucket.
It
comes
out
of
the
judge,
correct,
okay
and
current.
Currently,
the
municipal
judges
are
on
our
halftime.
I
know
they
went
to
halftime.
I
think
when
carter
rolled
in
and
we're
still
kind
of
looking
at
that-
and
I
know
mr
mr
lawrence
was
looking
at
what
was
generated
in
fines
and
so
forth.
Although
that's
not
the
primary
purpose
of
the
court
system,
it's
justice,
but
also
from
years
and
years
ago,
just
anybody's
interested
it
used
to
be
they
generated.
D
Since
some
of
those
numbers
are
being
put
out
there,
that
the
arrests
and
citations
from
five
years
ago
have
been
have
been
cut
in
half
as
well,
there
are
not
as
many
arrests
or
citations
and
if
you
have
half
the
rest
and
citations,
it
stands
to
reason.
You're
going
to
have
half
the
fines
collected,
I
don't
think
there's
as
many
speeding
set
up,
I'm
not
gonna
call
them
a
speed,
trap
I'll
call
the
speeding
areas
a
lot
of
these,
don't
don't
really
are
not
found
anymore.
G
L
Okay,
you
know
I
mean
we
have.
We
all
complain
about
the
speed
and
all
the
different
streets,
like
the
ones
I
have
on
across
the
street,
everybody
heavily
on
the
street.
They
have
a
lot
of
problems
with
my
problem
with
this
is
we're
losing
too
much
money,
so
there's
something
wrong:
it's
not
cost
effective
for
the
city.
L
M
Let
me
respectfully
take
issue
on
what,
and
I
think
mr
president
made
some
some
points
on.
What
are
we
in
this
business
for,
and
you
know
how
we
actually
cost
effectiveness
is
something
that
you
know
I
would
take
exception
to,
and
I
would
actually
look
at
numbers
in
out
and
what
the
result
is
before
I
would
say:
it's
not
cost
effective,
and
you
know
my
position
is
that
we're
doing
the
best
possible
we
can
do.
B
Well,
I
would
think
there
are
some
services
that
the
city
has
to
provide
that
are
not
going
to
be
money
makers,
but
it's
part
of
living
in
a
municipality
and
protecting
citizens
and
the
quality
of
life
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
But
but
just
if
we,
if
we
put
some
of
these
new
officers
in
neighborhoods
and
and
let
them
run,
radar
and
write
citations
for
folks
who
deserve
to
be
cited
for
speeding.
That
may
make
us
all
a
little
happier.
L
M
Year,
I
don't
know
what
you're
looking
at
we're,
not
collecting
we're,
not
collecting.
That's
a
lot
different
than
being
the
cost
effective.
There's
a
lot
of
factors
here.
Have
you
paying
attention
to
you
know
what
things
are
happening
across
the
world
collecting
is
a
lot
different
than
generating
revenue
by
opening
a
fine,
a
big
difference
on
what
you
can
get
versus
what
we've
done
through
court
orders
and
that
sort
of
thing
it's
not
like
the
old
days,
and
that's
that's
something
you
may
be
talking
about
and
maybe
not
understanding.
M
L
L
D
M
M
How
many
city
blocks
is
that
you
can
put
in
jail
right
now,
five,
and
if
you
don't
think
these
people
who
get
rested
over
and
over
again
that
are
charged
a
fine,
they
don't
have
to
pay
a
fine.
They
know
they
know
the
drill
and
that's
a
problem.
That's
a
problem!
That's
you
know,
maybe
you
don't
want
to
talk
about
or
but
it's
a
big
problem,
there's
no
teeth
in
what
we're
doing.
That's
not
effective.
L
L
L
L
Q
L
B
L
L
M
Have
to
answer
that
we
can.
We
can
arrest
those
answers
or
give
them
those
answers
on
how
it
is,
and
if
it's
revenue
that
will
concern
that
we
can
show
you
what
how
the
revenues
components
is
generated
and
actual
actions
over
the
last
four
or
five
years,
since
that
condition
in
aclu
has
changed
the
complete
ball
game
and
since
then
other
judgments
have
said
you
know,
you
can't
put
anybody
in
jail.
How
much?
What
did
we
do
for
not
paying
a
fine?
M
L
B
Q
B
D
B
B
B
They
go
on
their
own
recognizance,
so
one
of
the
factors
is
how
much
room
is
available
at
the
end,
so
to
speak
over
in
harrison
county
right.
The
other.
The
other
thing
is
that
once
we
send
prisoners
over
there
to
harrison
county
if
cove
is
rolling
through
and
or
they
have,
medical
conditions
or
dental
conditions
or
vision
conditions.
If
there's
an
issue,
the
city
of
biloxi
pays
for
their
health
care
and
those
those
kinds
of
issues
correct.
That's.
E
B
Right
so
to
my
way
of
thinking,
we
don't
have
a
jail
in
biloxi.
We
had
one
at
one
time
there
was
a
horrible
fire
that
was
what
40
50
years
ago.
I
don't
know
that
we've
had
a
jail
since
then.
So
all
we
do
when
we
arrest
people
is,
we
have
to
hold
them
they're
booked.
Then,
if
they're
going
to
go
somewhere
that
somewhere
has
to
have
room
for
them,
otherwise
they're
released
on
their
own
cognizance
that
that
being
said,
if
somebody
is
cited
and
they
show
up
in
court,
they
can
pay
or
not
pay.
B
We
learned
that
from
the
agreement
we
were
under
with
what
the
southern
legal
center
or
whatever
all
right,
that
being
the
case.
So
if
somebody
doesn't
have
money,
you're
not
going
to
get
money
out
of
them,
so
let's
incarcerate
them
well
we're
back
to
square
one.
Where
are
you
going
to
put
them
can't
put
them
at
the
public
safety
center?
We
got
what
two
cells
for
holding
folks
in
emergencies.
B
If
they're
mental
mental
cases,
then
hopefully
you
call
a
hospital
they'll
look
at
them.
Maybe
the
hospital
does.
Maybe
they
don't?
Then
they
call
you
to
come
pick
them
up
now.
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
them?
Am
I
understanding
this
accurately
yeah?
That's
pretty
much
a
big
picture.
It's
not
biloxi!
That
has
this
issue.
It's
probably
every
police
department
up
and
down
the
coast
right.
M
B
I
I
don't
think
anybody
would
disagree,
yeah
we'd
like
for
it
to
be
more
effective,
but
the
situation.
This
is
where
we
find
ourselves
under
these
situations.
I'm
sure
it's
frustrating
for
council
members,
it's
frustrating
for
constituents,
it's
frustrating
for
judges,
it's
frustrating
for
law
enforcement,
sure
it's
frustrating
for
the
administration,
but
that's
where
we
are
we're
dealing
with
this
issue.
I
assume
the
best
we
can
just
like
every
other
city
is
dealing
with
as
best
they
can
that
be
accurate.
D
You
can't
ignore
the
fact
that
arrests
and
citations
are
half
of
what
they
were
five
years
ago
for
whatever
reason,
so
that
that's
a
factor
plus
the
fact
that
you
can't
jail
somebody
until
they
call
their
relatives
and
and
round
up
enough
money
to
pay
a
fine.
I
mean
that
was
a
very
effective
way
to
collect
fines
five
to
six
years
ago,
which
which
is
not
not
done
anymore
in
the
city
after
our
court
order.
L
One
last
comment
sure,
so
I
listen
to
all
y'all
what
you
said.
So
why
do
we
have
the
court
system?
Then,
if
I
have
it
at
all,
if
it
doesn't
affect
anything,
you
can't
send
them
to
jail.
You
can't
collect
fines,
so
why
would
you
even
have
it?
You
made
a
good
point
for
us
to
get
rid
of
the
court
system.
Thank
you.
D
It
is,
it
is
collecting
half
a
million
a
year,
it's
not
collecting
a
million
a
year,
but
it
is
collecting
half
a
million
a
year
and
and
we
have
mechanisms
to
try
to
collect
some
of
this
old
debt
when
we
collect
that
it'll
go
to
the
bottom
line.
But
that's
taking
time
too,
there
is
old
death.
That's
out
there
that
that
between
the
the
refund
attachment
and
the
collection
company,
that
we've
engaged
there's
ways
to
go
out
over
after
that
old
debt.
L
L
A
B
Q
Q
Again,
we've
regained
the
effectiveness
of
community
court
at
the
last
meeting,
the
fines
totaled
fourteen
thousand
dollars,
so
that's
become
effective
again
and
that's
motivating
people
to
clean
their
property
up
this
past
year
or
just
recently,
what
we
did
was
we
transferred
to
employees.
The
civic
center,
which
used
to
be
under
community
development,
was
transferred
back
to
parks
and
recreation,
along
with
the
two
employees
that
scheduled
and
maintained
the
civic
center.
But
I
am
asking
for
two
positions
this
year,
one
for
community
development
and
one
for
the
visitor
center.
Q
What
I'd
like
to
have
at
the
visitor
center
is
an
employee,
that's
responsible
for
maintaining
the
building
and
the
grounds
the
proper
way,
making
sure
that
the
sidewalks
are
edged
and
making
sure
that
sidewalks
are
kept
clean,
making
sure
that
the
hedges
and
the
flower
beds
are
all
maintained.
This
person
would
also
service
the
janitor
for
the
inside
of
the
building
and
would
be
responsible
not
only
for
it
being
clean
on
the
inside,
but
on
the
outside
and
also
would
be
available
to
help
set
up
with
the.
F
Q
Q
The
position
that
I'm
asking
for
in
community
development
is
a
planning
technology
which
would
serve
at
the
planning
counter.
The
person
I
have
there
now
is
just
overwhelmed
with
because
she's
responsible
for
taking
care
of
not
only
the
counter,
which
is
a
full-time
job,
but
she
is
the
secretary
for
ahrc
and
drc
and
drc,
and
also
the
secretary
for
our
contractor
board
meetings
as
well.
Q
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
numbers,
I'm
only
asking
for
a
sixteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
two
dollar
increase
overall,
but
you
have
to
take
into
consideration
that
two
of
those
employees
were
taken
out
of
our
budget.
Also,
some
money
was
taken
out
for
electricity.
That
previously
was
paying
for
the
civic
center
and
some
of
those
things,
but
we're
not
asking
for
a
lot
and
just
to
give
you
a
real
quick
breakdown.
Q
And
I
have
a
copy
of
this
if
you
would
like
it,
our
proposed
budget
is
3.2
million
dollars.
The
salaries
and
benefits
for
the
department
is
a
little
over
2
million.
If
you
take
out
the
salaries
and
benefits
fuel
gift,
shop,
merchandise,
other
professional
services,
telephone
electricity,
other
contractual
services,
repair
auditor,
we
got
to
repair
our
auditorium
room
roof
over
there,
the
tree
cutting
and
the
land
clearance,
and
then
we're
asking
for
some
vehicles
this
year.
That
leaves
me
with
295
000
to
operate
all
four
of
those
facilities
for
this
coming
year.
Q
Brick,
house
old,
brick
house
is
still
reserved
for
events,
but
we
still
have
to
maintain
it.
We
still
have
to
pay
the
electricity
bill
and
we
still
have
to
keep
the
grounds
cleaned
up
and
if
anything
goes
out
like
the
air
conditioning
or
anything
like
that,
it
has
to
be
fixed.
So
we
have
to
budget
money
every
year,
just
to
make
sure.
H
L
H
Well,
yeah,
we
do
have
zeta
repairs
to
do.
The
first
is
the
roof
which
I've
already
approved
the
contract
for
the
roof,
and
hopefully
we'll
see
that
happening
within
the
next
30
days.
There's
going
to
be
a
big
lead
time
on
the
roofing
material
and
we
don't
know
exactly
what
that
lead,
time's
going
to
be,
but
mandel's
got
the
contract
to
replace
that
roof
and
once
that's
done
we'll
go.
H
L
L
Q
There's
been
okay,
there's
been
discussion
about
moving
that
to
non-governmental,
but
let
me
tell
you
about
back
bay
mission,
helps
us
with
a
lot
of
hardship
cases
and
through
code
enforcement
we
run
into
a
lot
of
people
that
absolutely
did
not
have
the
money
to
fix
their
roof
or
to
remove
a
tree.
You'll.
Remember
that
we
got
them
to
remove
a
tree
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
whenever
we
get
into
those
situations
we
call
them
back.
Q
L
L
L
Q
What
we
did
last
year,
what
we
did
last
year
and
was
we
had
cut
them
back
from
50
000
to
25,
000
and
and
they
exhausted
that
25
000,
pretty
quick,
helping
us
out
with
projects.
So
I
would
ask
that
we
fully
fund
them
again.
You
know,
if
that's
possible,
because
they
have
been
a
great
asset
to
us
with
hardship
cases.
Q
L
Q
L
Q
L
Q
Sir,
the
way
that
the
community
court
works
is
that,
once
they
come
in
for
their
appointment
date,
they
will
meet
with
the
prosecutor.
They
go
in
individually
and
meet
with
the
inspector
and
the
prosecutor
to
talk.
Give
them
one
last
chance
to
resolve
whatever
the
issue
is
and
whatever
it
is
that
they
agree
to.
Q
Q
Do
you
understand
what
you
signed?
Are
you
in
full
agreement
with
this?
Yes,
I
am
okay,
then
we're
going
to
give
you
x
number
of
days
to
finish
it
up
or
whatever,
but
you
know
they're
actually
meeting
with
the
inspector
and
the
prosecutor
before
they
go
in
now,
that's
actually
tire
advantage
when
we
had
community
court
and
everyone
was
sitting
in
the
audience
and
most
of
the
people
that
were
in
the
audience
were
upset
about
being
there.
Q
You
know
it's
difficult
for
a
judge
to
maintain
control
of
the
courtroom,
sometimes
because
of
that,
because
you
get
people
in
there,
they
start
talking
out
loud
and
they
start
interfering
with
each
other's
cases.
But
the
way
we've
got
it
set
up
is
very
organized
and
again
at
the
last
court
date
on
the
21st
last
month,
the
fines
totaled
fourteen
thousand
dollars.
L
You
know
all
that's
fine.
My
my
question
was
the
first
appearance.
Is
it
would
a
judge
or
would
an
inspector
two
or
three
people
tell
me
when
they
went
in
it
was
with
an
inspector,
not
a
judge
so
legally
from
peta?
Can
you
actually
do
that
if
you're
not
meeting
with
a
judge,
okay
call
it
a
court
citation.
Q
Q
The
building
official
hearing
was
set
up
to
give
that
person
one
last
opportunity
to
tell
us
what
he
was
going
to
going
to
do
on
it
and,
of
course,
when
he
came
in,
he
didn't
have
side
control
of
the
property.
So
I
couldn't
issue
him
any
kind
of
a
permit
to
repair
it,
but
then,
once
that
hearing
is
held,
if
they
fail
to
follow
through,
then
our
only
venue
is
to
go
ahead
and
go
through
court
next
and
then,
if
that
doesn't
work,
then
we
bring
it
to
the
city
council
for
a
resolution.
Q
L
D
Expect
her
they're
going
they're
cited
to
come
to
community
court.
They
go
to
the
community
court
building
the
prosecutors
there.
The
judge
is
there
in
the
same
building.
At
the
same
time,
what
he's
saying
is
we
ask
that
they
meet
with
the
prosecutor
and
the
inspector
first
to
see
if
they
can
work
it
out?
If
the
person
says
I'm
not
working,
anything
out
he's
got
a
he's
getting
a
trial
date
set
by
the
judge.
If
they
work
it
out,
the
judge
reduces
that
to
writing
signs
an
order.
So
it's
a
it's
a
court.
L
Q
My
question:
let
me
answer
that
question:
whenever
we're
dealing
with
a
property
owner
about
their
property,
yes,
they're,
going
to
have
to
meet
with
the
inspector
I
mean
the
inspector
has
to
explain
to
him
what
it
is
about,
the
property,
that's
in
violation
and
what
the
resolution
is
to
to
get
it
done.
We
meet
with
these
people
for
sometimes
two
months
before
they
ever
actually
go
to
court.
Q
So
a
lot
of
times
they
come
in
and
they
stop
explain
to
me
exactly
what
it
is.
I
need
to
do
to
get
this
case
resolved,
and
so
the
inspector
sits
there
and
talks
to
him
about
what
it
is.
They
wrote
up
and
what
it's
going
to
take
to
to
clear
up
the
violation
if
they
do
that,
there's
no
need
for
them
to
go
to
court,
but
if
they
don't
do
it,
then
we
don't
have
any
other
alternative
except
to
take
it
to
to
to
court
to
get
it
resolved.
L
Q
Well,
the
inspectors,
the
inspectors
are
there
and
they
meet
they
meet
in
the
code
enforcement
room
because
when
the
prosecutor
is
there
talking
to
them,
the
inspectors
have
the
ability
to
pull
up
on
the
computer.
The
pictures
of
the
property
to
show
what
the
violations
are.
So
we
use
that
room
that
one
room
for
to
use
the
technology
to
show
what
it
is
it's
in
violation,
but
then,
when
they
get
through
there,
they
move
into
another
room
to
meet
with
the
judge,
to
make
sure
that
they
understand
everything
that
has
been
agreed
to.
Q
L
L
A
lot
of
money,
like
you,
said,
resolved
just
speaking
with
the
inspector
yeah
I'll.
Do
this
do
whatever
that's
fine,
my
problem
is:
don't
call
it
a
court.
If
there's
no
judge
you,
I
can't
go
to
meet
with
folk
and
says
the
judge
right
we're
in
court.
We're
not
yes,
sir.
I
met
with
those,
so
we
can
holler
at
each
other
a
little
bit.
M
E
Q
B
B
E
That's
correct,
yes,
sir
okay.
Thank
you,
mr
president.
I
just
want
to
know
because
we're
getting
ready
to
roll
into
parks
and
rec,
so
your
your
budget
actually
has
been
benefited
from
transferring
personnel
over
to
parks
and
rec.
Also,
I
see
electricity
like
138
000
dollars,
that's
been
transferred,
I
guess
parks
and
rec
is
under
that
responsibility
for
a
building
or
or
something.
E
Q
E
Q
E
Q
L
Q
Bear
with
me
just
a
minute
here
we
go
85
000
to
90
000.,
so
we
went
up
five
thousand.
I
feel
like
that's
enough.
Well
at
one
time
it
was
a
hundred
thousand
and
it
really
just
depends.
You
know
we
have
the.
We
have
the
schedule,
the
the
routine
schedule,
that
we
have
to
follow
for
making
sure
that
the
roads
are
clear
for
the
buses
and
for
the
fire
trucks
to
make
sure
that
those
limbs
are
not
hanging
over
and
then
we're
always
getting
requests
for
a
tree.
Q
L
Okay,
that's
like
normal
for
the
like
the
fire
department.
Anybody
like
that,
but
you
have
to
where'd
that
normally
cost
you
per
year
to
keep
everything
supposed
to
be
like
what
14
feet
above
the
street
for
the
fire
trucks
to
go
through
and
all
that
and
the
buses
school
buses.
So
I'm
going
with
that!
Normally
culture,
because
that's
a
constant
thing.
Q
I
would
say
that
probably
half
of
my
budget
is
spent
on
the
maintenance
work
and
then
the
other
half
is
spent
on
maintaining
trees
on
other
city
property
because
see
we
we
keep
the
trees
trimmed
in
the
cemetery.
We
keep
the
trees,
trimmed
on
on
the
community
development
building
in
any
other
city
on
property.
If
those
trees
need
trimming,
it
comes
out
of
our
budget.
L
L
Q
That
was
the
money
that
was
transferred
from
our
budget
to
the
civic
center.
You
know,
because
that
building's
much
bigger
and
we're
just
now
getting
into
the
months
where
it,
the
air
conditioning,
really
has
to
work
over
there.
So
there's
a
big
drain,
that's,
but
we
still
have
the
money
in
our
budget
to
maintain
the
buildings
that
we
do
with
electricity
and
air
conditioning.
L
J
M
L
Of
money-
yes,
sir,
I
know,
but
it's
still
that's
still
a
lot.
That's
a
lot
of
money.
Yes,
sir,
you
know
so
I
know
we
had
a
problem
with
the
old
keep
with
them.
The
way
it
was
built
and
old
building
wasn't
built.
I
guess
energy
efficient,
so
they're
costing
us
a
lot
of
money
for
the
air
conditioned
electricity.
I'd.
A
I
We'll
have
some
questions.
Jerry
said:
we've
taken
over
the
civic
center,
I've
added
the
two
full-time
staff
and
I've
also
requested
two
part-time
facility
workers
to
supervise
that
facility
during
events
and
rentals
and
things
of
that
nature.
We've
also
opened
up
wool
market
city
center
and
eagle
point
park.
So
a
lot
of
your
increases
are
there
also.
I
I
During
covet
we
took
out
four
possessions,
and
I'm
asking
for
two
of
them
to
come
back
now,
which
is
the
ground
maintenance
supervisor
and
the
maintenance
worker
beautification
does
a
lot
of
the
grass
cutting.
We
also
set
up
the
civic
center
and
clean
the
civic
center
and
they
do
all
the
logistics
for
any
festivals
or
or
city
sponsored
events.
I
A
lot
of
the
supplies
and
services
and
charges
we're
asking
for
it
is
the
civic
center
needs
some
work.
The
wallpaper
is
coming
off,
it
needs
to
be
painting
painted
in
the
other
rooms,
it
needs
a
good
pressure
washing
from
a
company
and
then
also
new
carpet
in
the
dressing
rooms
in
the
green
room
due
to
leaks.
I
In
the
capitol
I
am
asking
for
150
000
to
cover
a
playground
at
severo,
replace
it
it's
in
1999
was
the
last
time
a
playground
was
built
there,
then
at
pennzoil
also
that
playground
is
2003
2004
when
it
was
built.
A
playground
usually
lasts
15
years,
you're
good
if
you're
getting
20
years
out
of
it
after
15
years,
they're,
not
making
those
parts
anymore
that
are
destroyed
or
that
are
unsafe,
asking
for
fifty
thousand
for
the
playground
surface
at
pops
ferry
it
has
a
soft
surface
and
it's
very
expensive.
I
So
the
only
other
option
there
would
be
to
dig
up
all
the
concrete
and
just
lay
mulch,
which
would
you
know,
be
very
inexpensive.
But
mr
deming
said
that
he
would
like
the
surface
back,
I'm
asking
for
twelve
thousand
dollars
in
concession
appliances.
At
the
aj
holloway
sports
complex.
We
have
two
freezers,
two
fridge
and
two
fryers
that
are
not
working
and
we're
under
contract
with
a
con
concessionaire.
I
So
we
have
to
have
those
working,
I'm
also
asking
for
two
air
conditions,
one
to
replace
at
the
softball
concession
and
one
took
place
at
the
little
league
concessions
we
spent.
Ten
thousand
dollars
just
this
year
on
repairs
at
the
at
those
two
concession
stands
for
air
conditions:
they're
10
years
no
they're,
2
000
for
so
they're,
20,
19
years
old,
18
years
old.
So
it's.
I
The
aj
halloween
sports
complex
little
league
in
softball.
Thank
you
and
then
we're
asking
for
two
vehicles
over
the
years.
I've
asked,
but
we
were,
we
were
just
told
to
cut
back.
I
had
to
tow
vehicles
this
year.
Seven
times
already.
I
just
had
a
text
that
I
needed
to
tow
another
one,
so
I'm
asking
for
two.
Originally
I
had
to
ask
for
the
directors,
but
beautification
needs
another
truck
and
so
does
parks.
It
needs
another
truck,
I'm
also
asking
for
ten
thousand
dollars
for
a
mower.
L
I
L
L
I
J
I
J
J
I
We
have
a
fence
company
that
came
out
today
to
give
us
a
quote,
and
then
we
get
in
the
net
put
up
they're
still
waiting
for
parts
for
the
playground.
That's
why
it's
cautioned
off
and
then
everything
else
will
be
ready
to
go.
We've
moved
the
basketball
goal,
as
you
request
it
supposedly,
the
like
the
telephone
pole
is
supposed
to
be
removed.
Also.
I
O
To
respond
to
councilman
glavin's
comments
earlier:
what's
not
in
the
budget,
is
a
major
rehab
repair
improvements
to
the
ajak
holloway
sports
complex,
we're
going
to
try
and
pull
that
together
into
a
single
capital
project
this
year,
we'll
take
all
the
different
pieces
that
are
needed,
plus,
you
know,
get
quotes
for
the
fields
and
so
forth
and
contract
that
out.
How
much
is
that
I
wouldn't
have,
I
wouldn't
end
to
know,
estimate
I'd
have
to
guess
it
would
be
a
half
a
million
dollars.
O
I
That
would
also
include
the
tennis
court
lights
led
that
you
asked
me
to
get
quotes
on
musco
wanted
two
hundred
thousand
and
our
electrician
said
between
forty
and
forty
five
thousand,
and
then
that
would
be.
You
know
the
fencing,
the
drainage,
updating,
the
bathrooms,
concrete
work,
the
fields
and
sand
plastic
and
painting
the
pavilion
concession
stand,
roofs
and
things
of
that
nature.
Okay,.
I
L
L
I
When
they
got
their
original
grants
from
tri
life,
the
money
went
into
our
account
and
we
paid
to
have
the
pot
spirit,
tennis
courts
refurbished
and
made
into
pickleball
courts.
Now
the
money
that
they've
been
collecting
now
is
they're,
hoping
to
get
the
restore
grant
to
build
more
courts
out
there
right
mike.
L
I
F
O
L
I
I
L
J
L
L
M
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
last
meeting.
I
think,
with
regard
to
upgrading
you
know
two
baseball
fields
and
softball
fields
and
turfing,
and
some
of
those
things
to
make
it
uplift.
You
know
to
to
a
a
I
guess,
a
very
competitive
look
and
feel
we
met
with
the
some
folks
from
the
school
district
and
and
what
we
could
do
to
make
two
full
baseball
fields.
That
would
position
us.
M
You
know,
I
guess
the
consensus
was
these
people
may
be
playing
baseball
in
golf
at
that
complex
there,
but
they're
staying
in
biloxi-
and
this
would
be
you
know-
to
do
what
we
need
to
do-
maybe
put
a
million
or
two
million
in
that
field,
but
would
result
in
in
you
know
a
long
term
benefit
to
us
so
again,
along
with
maintenance
of
the
of
the
complex
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
the
facilities
to
to
match
up.
It's
certainly
a
big
problem.
Two
million
may
not
be.
M
I
think
it's
about
a
half
a
million
a
field
to
just
to
do
the
outfield
part
of
the
you
know
the
of
the
the
diamonds,
but
I
think
biloxi
said
that
we
didn't
have
capability.
Schools
said
there
was
enough
to
to
make
a
second
full
baseball
configuration,
but
you
know
it's
certainly
on
very
high
on
our
radar
to
make
that
that
facility.
Both
you
know
soccer
as
well
as
baseball
softball
top
notch.
M
I
M
2004.,
so
you
had
a
20-year
shelf
life.
So
when
you
look
at
it
across
time,
it
makes
sense.
You
know
and
that's
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
get
some
more
nuts
and
bolts.
You
know
to
be
second
sometimes
and
come
back
with
a
better
product,
because
it,
you
know,
put
you
in
a
good
situation.
I
think
there's
some
things
we
can
do
now
that
would
you
know
make
that
investment
even
more
effective.
I
E
I
E
E
They
don't
want
the
competition
from
biloxi
and
other
areas-
and
you
know
I
got
a
kid
that
plays
and
they're
actually
going
to
practice
tonight
and
this
rain
came
and
guess
what
they
reserved
the
fields
at
gulfport,
because
they're
synthetic
turfs
and
it's
not
going
to
be
muddy,
they're
going
to
be
able
to
get
a
good
practice
in
tonight.
These
are
kids
on
this
team
that
play
all
across
the
coast
and
not
only
in
the
spring,
but
fall
ball
is
becoming
more
and
more
and
more
popular.
E
I
you
know,
I'm
glad
we're
going
after
a
half
a
million
dollars
from
other
resources,
but
I
would
ask
the
the
city
council:
this
is
our
sportsplex.
You
know
when
people
talk
about
the
gulfport
sports
products
and
jackson,
county
sportsplex
and
the
iberville,
what
they're,
developing
and
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
they're
they're
going
to
outpace
us.
E
If
we
don't
make
the
improvements
and
our
sports
plex,
you
know
there's
some
maintenance
issues,
problems
over
the
22
decades
or
whatever
it's
been
that's
occurring
in
there
and
it's
it's
it's
rapidly
we're
going
to
lose
it,
and
so
I
propose
that
the
council
would
support
this
you're
talking
about
a
half
a
million.
Why
don't
we
put
a
little
bit
in
this
budget
and
if
we
get
the
money
from
the
other
resource,
we
can
do
a
budget
adjustment
and
transfer
that
money
to
other
departments,
but
maybe
125
000
additional.
E
So
maybe
you
can
get
a
jump.
If
those
funds
don't
come
down,
you
can
get
the
fencing
and
or
or
some
other
improvements
that
has
to
be
done
and
if
I
would
encourage
each
and
every
councilman.
I
know
it's,
not
your
ward,
but
it's
your
constituents
that
come
and
congregate
and
play
there
and
go
take
a
tour
with
the
director
and
with
the
mayor
and
and
look
at
the
needs
get
familiar
with
the
needs
of
that
park.
Everybody
thinks.
E
E
Correct
and
and
like
gulfport,
they
rent
the
fields
they
rent
them.
You
can
actually
rent
a
field
in
in
gulfport.
Can
we
do
that
in
biloxi?
Can
we
rent
one
for
practice,
I'm
all
for
it,
so
there's
opportunities
that
we
can
rent
these
fields.
If
they're
up
to
a
certain
standard,
you
can
reserve
and
rent
the
fields
we.
E
This
is
practices
we
we
go
out
here.
We
are
in
other
cities
given
gulfport
some
money,
so
we
can
play
and
practice
and
get
our
kids
up
to
the
skill
level
get
you
know
we
we're
competitive
and
we're
going
to
seek
out
an
area
to
get
these
kids
ready.
You
know
to
play
ball
and
if
you
have
the
fire
and
the
desire
and
and
and
you
want
to
fight,
you
got
to
fight
for
you're
the
director.
This
is
your
area
right.
I
E
E
You'd
hear
the
the
activity
going
on
around
there
and
it
was
a
wonderful
joyful
part,
and
I
thought
that
was
a
major
league
park.
You
know
40
years
ago.
You
know
I
thought
it
was
50
years
ago
now.
I
I
thought
it
was.
I
was
playing
in
a
major
league
park.
You
know
there,
okay,
I'll
get
off
my
soap
box,
but
all
right
good.
N
I
N
I
N
B
B
Two
thousand
dollars
all
right,
so
that'll
be
in
the
next
six
weeks:
okay
westview
park
his
little
park
there
at
west
view
drive
in
edgewater
estates
and
there
were
some
trees
that
were
were
cut
down.
I
think
public
works
or
maybe
parks
and
recreation
did
it,
but
there's
some
still
some
stumps
to
be
ground
there.
My
understanding
was,
we
were
waiting
on
zeta
funding
to
go
out
and
do
all
that.
Does
that
ring
a
bell
with
anybody?
Yeah.
O
B
O
O
B
B
Week,
thank
you,
sherry
and
then
I
heard
pennzoil
park.
Playground,
equipment,
praise
the
lord
and
if
we
could
add
some
sort
of
water
fountain
or
something
out
there,
just
is
there.
I
wonder
if
there's
any
water
out
there
don't
need
a
don't
need
a
a
splash
pad
or
anything
everybody
freeze
to
death
in
the
shade.
B
B
B
B
B
J
O
O
O
O
Last
year,
when
we
finished
the
year,
we
had
a
director
who
was
a
professional
engineer.
We
had
three
other
professional
engineers
and
one
in
they
called
engineer,
threes
and
one
engineer
two,
which
is
an
engineering
training
plus
a
support
staff
plus
the
administrative
staff
and
three
people
dedicated
to
managing
the
infrastructure
program.
O
So
that's
one
down
one
engineer:
we
have
one
engineer
three,
as
opposed
to
three
that
we
used
to
have.
We
have
one
engineer
two
and
one
engineer
one.
So
that's
the
total
of
three
engineers
compared
to
five
a
year
ago,
plus
an
admin
staff
plus
the
consulting
staff
and
the
group
doing
the
project
management
is
down
to
two.
O
So
when
you
look
at
the
engineering
budget,
you
can
see
what
you're
basically
seeing
is
the
result
of
a
lot
of
flux.
In
a
lot
of
vacant
positions,
we
have
hired
consultants
to
try
and
fill
the
gaps.
We
have
two
different
professional
engineer:
consultants
working
for
us,
both
part-time
and
we're
getting
the
job
done,
but
it's
just
not
pretty
right
now
and
we're
tr
we're
we're
struggling
to
try
and
hire
some
additional
professional
engineers.
O
O
That
really
is
the
story
for
engineering.
There's
really
nothing
unusual
in
this
budget
other
than
the
changes
in
the
people
and
and
like
other
departments,
a
couple
of
replacement
vehicles
and
some
odds
and
ends
of
desks
and
odds
and
ends,
and
some
I.t
stuff.
But
it's
not
big
big
bucks.
It's
really!
It's
all
about
people
and
engineering
all
right!
Thank
you.
E
O
E
O
Now
that
we've
got
some
unusual
things
going
on
right
now
and
have
have
to
do
with
zeta
repairs,
so
we've
got
all
these
zeta
repairs,
for
example,
in
the
commercial
harbor
that
commercial
harbor,
we
didn't
start
on
right
away.
We
need
to
get
a
project
together,
we
didn't
have
any.
We
don't
have
an
engineer
capable
of
designing
something
for
a
project
to
fix
the
commercial
harbor
subway.
O
We
issued
a
purchase
order
against
the
zeta
funding
that
diana
tracks
we
issued
a
purchase
order
to
an
engineering
firm
just
for
five
grand
to
develop
a
project
for
us.
Now,
that's
normally
the
kind
of
thing
we
do
in-house,
but
our
in-house
is
somewhat
decimated
right
now
and
that
was
kind
of
specialized.
So.
E
Okay,
so
my
my
point,
I
guess
just
my
point
is
I'm
all
for
staffing
up
in
the
engineering
department.
We
definitely
need
it,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
leaving
any
money
for
third
party
that
was
taking
care
of
that
gap
and
is
there
an
opportunity
there
or
not,
we've
already
scrubbed
the
budget.
It
is
what
it
is.
Oh.
O
O
E
O
B
L
O
Should
be
given,
we've
got
a
good
benefits
package.
There's
really,
no
reason
why
we
haven't
been
able
a
a
number
of
the
people.
I've
talked
to
have
said
they
were
interested,
but
they
wanted
to
stay
a
little
bit
longer
where
they
were
or
they
they
liked
their
mdot
job.
They
didn't
want
to
wait
till
they
retired
from
mdot,
or
they
liked
the
engineering
firm
they
were
working
for,
but
right
now
I
I
think
the
numbers
said
high
enough
to
attract
the
right
kind
of
guy.
M
The
whole
compensation
package
needs
to
be
explained
to
him
and
say:
hey,
maybe
that
number
the
raw
number
100k
may
not
get
their
attention,
but
when
you
wrap
around
some
of
these
other
things
in
the
benefits,
if
the
compensation
is
way
up
there,
so
net
effect
is
a
is
pretty
good.
We
will,
you
know,
make
sure
that
message
is
understood
when
we
go
do
the
advertising.
M
Up
and
the
fires
that
we've
been
fighting
and
mike's
been
fighting
and
we've
been
fighting.
You
know
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
to
grow
our
team
that
is
very
specifically
and
tune
in
to
what
the
city
of
biloxi's
short
term
and
ev
immediate
plans,
but
as
well
as
you
know,
the
five
and
ten
year
plan.
So
you
know
in
five
years
that
team
that
we've
grown-
and
we
have
will
be
second
to
none
for
the
job
that
needs
to
be
done
for
the
city
of
biloxi.
B
B
D
Mr
president,
I
want
to
start
off
by
recognizing
mr
jeff
braden,
your
representative
on
the
coast,
trains
authority
board
of
commissioners,
he's
been
with
us
for
several
months
now
and
doing
a
great
job
of
working
with
me
to
represent
service
in
the
city
of
biloxi.
I
have
chris
foray
here.
He's
assistant
executive
director
he's
going
to
flip
through
the
slides
for
us.
I
want
to
thank
your
I.t
guy
for
helping
us
out
of
a
pinch.
He
was
winging
it
and
found
a
way
to
load
this
up.
For
us.
D
D
I'm
gonna
start
off
by
talking
about,
like
always
do
what
we're
doing
for
the
city.
Currently
different
types
of
services
we
provide
fixed
route
service
is
paid
for
with
grants,
federal
grants,
state
grants
and,
of
course,
city
contributions,
annual
operating
subsidies,
which
is
what
we're
here
today
to
talk
to
you
about
we're
operating
three
routes
using
four
hybrid
electric
buses
and
four
trolleys
in
2019
pre
covet
our
ridership
was
315
000.
Of
course
we
got
hammered
on
that,
like
all
public
transits
in
2020
last
year
it
was
2
15.
D
D
D
D
For
next
year,
so
we're
able
to
offset
our
request
by
98
000
in
federal
money.
We
provide
on-demand
services,
that's
curb
to
curb
that's
ada
paratransit
senior
citizen
services.
That's
paid
for
with
federal
grants,
state
grants
in
harrison
county.
The
value
of
that
service
is
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
coast
guard
commuter.
K
Is,
I
think
it's
one
of
the
opportunities
where
we
have
limited
or
no
service
like
on
the
point,
for
example,
that
if
that
was
more
heavily
promoted,
it
doesn't
cost
the
city
a
dime
for
us
to
double
that.
If
need
be,
and
I
think
that
that's
an
opportunity
to
to
help
provide
some
service
in
areas
that
are
currently
not
serviced,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
the
word
out
and
that
both
covers
seniors
and
disabled
people.
D
D
Because
commute
our
vanpool
service,
the
value
of
that
is
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
to
the
city.
A
year
annual
that's
paid
four
hundred
percent
with
federal
money.
We
operate
the
biloxi
transit
center.
The
bus
terminal
here,
which
is
a
hub
of
our
operations
in
biloxi,
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
over
there.
All
the
routes
pulse
in
and
out,
service
comes
in
from
diabloville
gulfport
ocean
springs.
D
D
It's
overall
1.4
million
its
center
of
focus
is
in
biloxi
and
gulfport,
so
the
value
of
the
city
is
700
000
over
three
years,
that's
paid
for
mainly
by
federal
transit,
administration,
money
and
mdot
money.
And
of
course
we
do
hurricane
disaster
evacuation
service.
Depending
on
what
goes
on
with
the
weather,
we
are
esf1
transportation
at
the
harrison
county
emergency
management
agency.
So
we
work
with
your
emergency
management
directors
when
they
meet
over
there
and
and
activate
the
eoc.
D
You
have
a
great
group
of
people
over
there
and
we
all
work
together
in
times
of
disaster,
so
the
value
of
all
these
services
I
just
talked
about
is
two
million
six
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand
eight
hundred
the
subsidy
we're
asking
for
fiscal
year.
Twenty
twenty
two
is
two
hundred
ninety
four
thousand
two
hundred
thirty
four
dollars.
So
it's
almost
10
to
one
return
on
investment.
D
So
there's
a
question
by
all
the
cities:
we
serve
about
equity
in
terms
of
amount
of
service
and
cost,
and
everybody
is
charged
the
same
hour
based
on
consumption
of
hours
of
service,
our
cost
per
hour
next
year.
75
is
projected
to
be
75
dollars
per
hour,
the
same
as
it
is
this
year.
We're
going
to
hold
the
line
on
that.
We
expect
ridership
to
be
greatly
increased.
D
So
what
we're
asking
the
four
cities
that
we
serve
this
year?
We're
asking
the
city
of
biloxi
to
pay
for
15
percent
of
the
operating
costs,
the
total
operating
costs,
gulfport
we're
asking
18
the
auberville,
18
and
ocean
springs
17,
so
everybody
pays
their
fair
share
and
it's
a
equitable
formula
of
determining
determining
what
we.
K
Ask
for
yeah
one
more
comment:
there
you'll
notice,
one
of
the
reasons
or
the
main
reason
that
biloxi's
share
is
only
15
versus
the
others.
Averaging
close
to
18
is
that
we
have
more
riders
per
hour
in
biloxi
than
any
of
the
other
cities
by
roughly
20
percent
and
that's
another
opportunity
again
with
the
city
itself,
helping
us
to
promote
cta
and
increase
ridership.
Every
dollar
we
collect
in
the
fare
box
reduces
the
amount
of
subsidy
that
the
city
would
have
to
pay.
D
This
slide
here
shows
the
entire
system,
the
connectivity
of
the
entire
system,
so
we
have
a
main
herb
in
biloxi
and
a
main
hub
in
gulfport,
where
all
the
routes
come
into
and
leave
they
pulse
routes
run
on
intervals
are
90
minutes
and
45
minutes.
As
I
stated
earlier,
you've
got
routes
coming
in
from
gulfport
the
I
real
ocean
springs
into
biloxi.
D
So
there's
connectivity
on
the
riding
public
from
lucian
springs
into
parts
of
saint
martin,
diabetes,
biloxi
and
gulfport,
a
very
extensive,
fixed
route
network,
the
three
routes
that
we
run
in
biloxi
you're.
Looking
at
route
34,
that's
pass
road.
That's
predominantly
locals,
use
that
a
mix
of
commercial
residential.
D
In
2019
pre-covered,
which
we're
trying
to
get
back
to,
we
think
we
were
in
2022.
There
was
110
000
riders
just
in
biloxi
on
that
route
and
another
110
000
on
the
gulfport
inn
next
slide
shows
the
beach
coma,
which
operates
on
highway,
90,
two
trolleys
that
bounces
back
and
forth
between
the
gulfport
transit
center
hub
and
the
biloxi
hub,
53
000
riders
a
year
on
that
in
2019,
which
we're
projecting
to
get
back
to
in
the
casino
hopper,
of
course,
which
operates
two
trolleys,
and
it
serves
all
the
casinos
from
cavett
street
east.
D
D
You
know,
we
don't
know
where
we're
going
with
this,
and
so
I'll
say
that
the
casino
hopper,
because
the
casinos
have
recovered
so
well
right
now,
the
casino
hopper
is
110
above
pre-covered
ridership,
10
percent
higher,
which
is
phenomenal,
but
our
regular
routes
we're
only
back
to
about
80
percent
pre-covered
numbers.
We
think
because
people
aren't
coming
back
to
work
like
we
all
would
like
them
to,
and
we
all
know
what's
going
on
with
that.
I
don't
need
to
talk
about
that.
There's
so
many
jobs
to
fill
so
people
that
were
using
the
local
routes.
D
We
just
have
not
quite
recovered
that
yet
we
were
starting
to
really
accelerate,
but
now
with
the
delta
variant,
nobody
really
knows
what's
going
to
happen
there,
but
I'm
hoping
we're
going
to
get
back
to
on
track
to
recovery.
This
fall
next
next
fiscal
year
in
our
ridership
projections
and
our
ridership
revenue
projections
reflects
that
a
much
higher
level
of
fare
box
revenue
and
biloxi
than
what
we
had
this
year.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
jeff.
K
That
means
if
we
were
to
reduce
any
of
the
current
routes,
we
would
leave
a
lot
of
people
in
a
lurch
for
transportation
to
work
and
since
roughly
77
of
our
ridership
makes
less
than
25
000
a
year.
It's
the
people
that
can't
afford
cars
that
are
mainly
using
the
cta
service.
That
may
also
open
up
some
opportunities
later
that
we're
going
to
try
to
explore,
with
maybe
more
of
the
ride,
sharing
work
related
transportation
in
the
evenings,
perhaps
even
with
you
know,
works
and
arrangements
with
the
casinos
or
whatever,
but
it.
H
K
The
next
slide
really
just
shows
the
impact
of
the
coveted
on
our
ridership,
but
you'll
notice
from
this.
That
biloxi
definitely
has
the
highest
ridership
of
all
the
four
cities
that
are
served
by
cta
and
at
this
point
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
biloxi's
subsidy
is
providing
246
000
rides
at
a
cost
to
the
city
of
about
89
cents,
a
ride.
K
L
K
D
Is
is
why
is
our
farebox
revenue
higher
than
all
the
other
transit
systems?
We
don't
offer
free
transfers
or
reduced
transfers.
Typically,
when
you
get
on
the
bus,
you
pay
your
regular
fare.
Our
regular
fare
is
a
dollar
fifty,
so
let's
say
you're
in
gulfport
and
you're
an
employee,
and
you
work
at
a
casino
in
biloxi
you
pay
in
in
on
the
other
systems,
all
except
one
up
here.
You
pay
a
hundred
a
dollar
fifty,
and
when
you
transferred
a
bus,
you
get
a
free
transfer.
Well,
we
don't
have
free
transfers.
D
Also,
a
lot
of
one
day
passes
are
bought
and
our
one
day
pass
is
six
dollars,
which
is
what
people
that
travel
a
lot
we
sell.
A
lot
of
one
day
passes
for
six
dollars
and
the
regional
average
is
328,
so
we're
generating
about
twice
as
much
fare
box
revenue
to
support
the
operation
of
our
service
than
our
peers
are
so
that
that's
the
baseline
of.
Why
our
fare
box
revenue
is
so
much
higher
than
all
the
other
yeah.
K
And
then
the
subsidy
cost
per
per
passenger
or
per
rider
is
also
the
lowest
in
the
region,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
can.
I
guess
you
probably
can't
see
who
all's
in
the
region,
but
just
real
quickly.
That
includes
little
rock
arkansas
baton,
rouge,
pensacola,
jackson,
mississippi
memphis,
montgomery
birmingham,
new
orleans,
shreveport
and
mobile,
and
those
are
the
others
in
this
region
that
are
classified
as
the
same
basic
service
size
as
cta.
K
D
First
of
all,
I'll
talk
about
strategic
initiatives,
things
we're
working
on
that
are
ongoing
and
and
maybe
new
we're
looking
at
amtrak
we're
very
excited
about
that.
We're
hoping
that's
going
to
roll
in
january,
we've
already
met
with
the
amtrak
team.
I
met
several
months
ago.
There
were
about
10
or
12
of
them,
pulling
up
in
the
big
black
suvs.
Looked
like
the
secret
service
pulling
up.
I
met
with
them
right
here
at
the
biloxi
transit
center.
D
D
We're
going
to
support
that
100
percent
when
they
deport
here
they
can
get
on
the
casino
hopper,
which
runs
every
20
minutes
and
go
to
where,
whatever
you
know,
and
have
public
transit
access
access
to
taxis,
whatever
the
case
may
be
uber
to
get
to
their
final
destination,
so
we're
real
excited
about
having
the
opportunity
to
work
with
them.
On
that,
we
are
talking
with
mississippi
state
center
for
advanced
vehicle
studies
and
mississippi
power
company
about
potentially
a
vehicle,
a
large
commercial
vehicle
charging
and
technology
exchange
center.
D
We're
excited
about
that.
We
have
a
35
foot,
pure
electric
bus,
on
order
being
built
by
gillig
in
california,
which
will
be
delivered
in
november.
It
will
be
the
first
pure
electric
public
transit
bus
in
operation
in
the
state
of
mississippi
that
bus
is
going
to
operate
on
pass
road
and
will
operate
in
biloxi
in
gulfport,
fully
funded
by
federal
transit
administration
and
mississippi
power.
Company
they've
been
a
wonderful
partner.
D
In
this
they
put
up
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
local
match
and
they're
paying
forty
thousand
dollars
to
put
in
the
interest
charging
infrastructure.
We
need
at
the
cta
facility
already
talking
about
the
east
west
corridor
project.
My
comment
right
on
that
project
right
now
and
we're
watching
what's
going
on
with
the
federal
infrastructure
grants
for
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
funding
it's
a
segmented
project.
It's
an
overall
about
a
380
million
dollar
project.
D
That
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money,
but
it's
in
seven
segments
and
if
we
can
get
the
money
to
build
it,
one
segment
at
the
time.
That's
a
feasible
approach.
I've
already
visited
with
usdot
federal
transit
administration,
our
congressional
delegation
they're,
aware
of
it
they
like
the
project
they're
supportive
of
it.
D
Another
project.
That's
going
on
right
now
that
the
city
of
biloxi,
your
your
police
and
fire
staff,
or
your
fire
staff
right
now
and
your
engineering
department
is
involved
in
is
a
500
000
turn
signal
preemption
and
priority
project,
so
the
focus
of
that
the
the
area
is
highway.
90,
biloxi
gulf
port
pass
river
biloxi
gulfport
highway
49
in
guilford.
Of
course,
it'll
give
police
and
fire
priority
or
preemption,
I'm
sorry
where
they
can
turn
the
lights,
all
green
as
they
go
through
them
and
we
will
get
priority
and
so
how
it
works.
D
For
us,
it's
a
scheduled
adherence
approach
only
when
our
buses
are
running
behind
schedule
that
we
start
changing
a
flip,
a
few
lights
green
to
keep
the
bus
service
on
time
so
fully
funded.
500
000
through
grpc
mdot
now
is
fixing
to
go
into
a
project
to
update
the
signals,
all
the
signals
on
highway
90
in
biloxi
and
gulfport,
and
all
the
signals
on
highway,
49
and
gulfport.
So
we
will
focus
on
this
upgrading
the
signals
on
pass
road
and
biloxi
and
gulfport,
and
putting
the
electronic
reading
devices
to
mobile
devices
in
the
vehicles.
K
Some
assistance
with
the
the
city
I
lived
in
in
california
several
years
ago
indicates
that
that
these
smart
signals,
if
properly
programmed
during
peak
traffic
hours,
such
as
you
know,
commute
time
in
the
morning
and
afternoon,
can
improve
traffic
flow
by
as
much
as
20
percent
and
reduce
emissions
and
gasoline
consumption
by
10
percent.
So
this
will
have
to
be
obviously
a
decision
made
by
the
city
as
to
whether
you
want
to
take
advantage
of
synchronizing
the
lights,
but
the
equipment
will
will
accommodate
that.
D
Valued
at
345,
000,
total
paid
for
by
federal,
transit
and
cta
that'll
provide
ada
and
senior
services
in
biloxi
next
fiscal
year.
That's
replacement
buses
for
current
vehicles,
we're
experiencing
indefinite
delays
like
everybody
else,
for
chips
in
the
vehicles.
We
can't
get
new
vehicles
because
can't
get
the
computer
chip
so
we're.
We
hope
we
had
them
all
ready,
we'll
see
we're
gonna
order.
Two
new
replacement
trolleys
for
the
beachcomber
550
thousand
dollars
funded
by
fta
hundred
percent,
cares
act
money.
D
I
talked
about
our
electric
bus
project,
that's
a
930,
000
overall
project,
and
then
recently
we
bought
the
property
on
317
to
bees,
road
just
south
of
our
main
plant.
At
333
we
paid
200
000
for
that
piece
of
property.
It's
a
it's
a
nice
piece
of
property.
It's
got
a
house
that
we're
going
to
convert
to
an
office
space,
a
big
metal
storage
shed
a
big
metal
shop
and
it
does
a
lot
of
things
for
us.
D
It
takes
us
into
we've
been
there
since
1972,
and
that
takes
us
into
the
next
25
50
years
at
that
main
facility
into
the
future.
As
we
grow
our
property
flooded
when
hurricane
katrina
come
through,
this
is
much
higher
ground.
It
didn't
flood.
So
it's
also
a
business
continuity
measure
for
us.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that.
That's
going
to
be
an
overall
525
thousand
dollar
project
as
we're
we're
putting
some
money
into
that
we're
phasing
that
in
so
that
brings
us
into
the
next
25
30
40
years
of
public
transit.
D
D
Our
approach
is
to
use
as
much
outside
grant
money
and
self-generated
revenue
as
we
can.
We
use
fta
federal
money.
We
use
state
money,
we
use
county
money
and
I'm
going
to
talk
specifically
I'll
just
run
through
the
numbers.
Our
estimated
service
hours
for
2022
for
biloxi
the
fixed
route
bus
service
is
25,
700.
D
ridership,
we
hope
to
get
back
to
pre-covet
numbers.
315
cost
per
hour
is
75.
This
formula
you're
looking
right
at
right
here,
is
what
we
use
it
at
all
of
the
cities
we
serve.
So
the
total
cost
of
service
projected
in
2022
is
1
million
927,
and
so
that's
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be,
how
you're
going
to
pay
for
it.
So
fta
preventative
maintenance
grant
is
one
of
the
grants
we
use
requires
a
20
local
match.
That's
385,
000
mdot
is
providing
a
local
match
for
that
ft
apm
money
at
20
percent.
D
That's
96,
000.
fta
operating
money,
a
grant
565..
So
the
grants
were
bringing
outside
money
from
federal
transit
administration
in
the
state
to
operate
your
service,
the
grant
money
we're
bringing
in
is
1
million
47
thousand.
So
all
the
other
sources
of
revenue
we're
using
as
local
match
for
these
grants,
the
fare
box,
consumers
are
paying
315
000
harrison
county
provides
an
operating
subsidy
of
55
000
lease
based
income.
I
talked
about
that.
We've
got
a
private
enterprise
at
the
biloxi
transit
center
60
000
advertising
income,
58
000,
that's
self-generated
revenue.
So
all
the
revenue.
D
The
other
revenue
outside
the
federal
grants
is
488
thousand,
so
total
revenue
is
1
million
535
the
projected
cost
1
million
927,
so
that
leaves
a
shortage
of
392
thousand
we're
bringing
to
the
table.
Some
one-time
covert
supplement
money
again
this
year,
less
than
we
did
last
year,
but
we're
bringing
98
000.
So
that
leaves
a
city
a
shortage
of
294
000,
which
is
what
the
annual
request
is
for
next
year.
So
this
is
the
formula
we
use
every
year.
D
D
Two
hundred
ninety
four
thousand
two
hundred
thirty
four
dollars
is
fifteen
percent
of
the
operating
cost
of
your
service,
which
we
referenced
earlier
is
lower
than
what
the
other
cities
are
saying
or
paying
three
percent,
but
it's
all
15
17
18.,
so
you
can
see
the
equity
in
it
and
we're
doing
the
same
with
the
other
cities.
We're
bringing
some
arp
money
to
them
also,
so
that's
our
presentation,
I'll
answer,
questions.
B
E
E
F
E
F
E
F
E
K
E
If
what
happens,
if
the
fares
don't
go
up,
but
I
mean
I
see
the
projections
and
everything
we're
going
through
this
next
surge
of
covet
and
you
see
every
day
we're
picking
up
the
paper
and
seeing
masks
are
being
you
know,
mandated
again
and
and
all
this
stuff.
Surely,
if
that
continues,
it's
going
to
affect
us.
So
what
would
say
you
about
that?.
E
F
F
E
F
F
J
K
K
So
what
we've
proposed
is
what
it
would
take
in
order
to
continue
operating
at
this
current
service
level
for
biloxi
and
obviously,
if
there's
a
significant
cut
in
in
your
funding,
we
lose
four
dollars
for
every
dollar.
You
don't
pay,
so
that
would
have
a
very
negative
effect
on
service
levels,
and
you
know
the
only
way
to
correct
that
is
to
cut
back
on
service.
L
K
I
mean
he
spends
probably
50
percent
of
his
time,
constantly
sniffing
out
for
grants
and
he's
got
a
real,
strong
relationship
with
senator
wicker,
and
you
know
I
who
knows
this
new,
the
new
bill.
That's
going
through
that
got
passed
in
the
senate
yesterday
or
today,
there's
likely
to
be
some
transportation
funds
in
there
that
we're
gonna
have
to
sift
through
once
we
know.
What's
in
that
bill
and
obviously
kevin's
gonna
go
after
every
dollar,
he
can
get
once
we
figure
out
what's
available.
L
Well,
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
the
projected
number
for
the
budget.
That's
what
we're
doing,
not
just
all
for
everybody.
So
anything
we
have
to
look
at
every
phase,
whether
it's
100
000
here
150
000
there,
but
they
have
the
service
provided
for
the
citizen.
That's
our
job
yep!
So
you
know
that's
your
job
is
to
get
the
best
one
and
our
job
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
help
the
citizen.
So
that's
all
I
actually
74
000
will
come.
You
have
to
cut
services.
L
You
know
there's
forty
five
thousand
low-income
people,
a
lot
of
them
live
in
cineplex
and
we
have
to
provide
them
services
too.
That's
what
I'm
saying
is
asking
these
questions.
We're
supposed
to
do.
Ask
questions
you
provide
answers,
you
know,
so
that's
what
we're
doing
and
we
have
to
make
sure
when
we
do
our
budget,
that
we
have
the
good
budget
for
everybody
and
all
the
citizens
and
everybody
else.
So
we
want
to
ask
the
question.
I
expect.
B
B
K
Can
just
make
one
last
comment
sure
I
think
if
the
city
would
consider
using
the
newsletter
that
goes
out
every
month
to
help
promote
cta
and
that
would
help
grow.
Our
ridership
potentially
for
every
dollar
that
goes
in
the
fare
box
is
a
dollar
less
than
the
city
has
to
pay.
So
you
know
you,
you
also
have
some
power
to
help
us
reduce
the
cost
to
the
city.
K
Tried
it
right,
so
maybe
we
try
a
a
a
freebie
ad
that
the
city
kicks
in
and
see
what
you
know
whether
it
has
an
impact
on
ridership
or
not.
I
would
also
strongly
promote
the
ada
part
of
it
because
I
think
in
general,
the
the
population
is
not
aware
of
that
service
and
it
does
allow
seniors
in
disabled
up
to
three
trips
a
week
to
go
grocery
shopping
or
go
to
the
doctor,
and
you
know
that's
a
really
valuable
service
to
those
people
and
it's
just
not
widely
known
about.
A
B
Okay,
all
right
thanks!
Cecilia
did
you
get
all
that
on
cta,
I
know
you're,
you
know
you're
the
technic
you're
the
video
technician,
but
you
have
to
listen
as
well
all
right,
I'll,
entertain
motion
to
adjourn
by
mr
lawrence,
a
second
by
mr
glavin.
I
know
that's
what
he's
thinking
and
I'm
thinking
we're
all
in
favor
good
will
john.
Thank
you.