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From YouTube: Biloxi Waterfront Meeting Session 1
Description
Public workshop held at Biloxi City Hall on Thursday, Sept. 6, 2018 to discuss the Biloxi Waterfront at Point Cadet and related areas. Public comments begin 45 minutes into recording. Click the link to read more: https://www.biloxi.ms.us/waterfront-meetings-focus-on-point-cadet-possibilities/
A
All
right,
a
special
meeting
in
workshop,
are
called
the
order
that
the
record
show
we
don't
have
a
quorum.
So
there's
going
to
be
the
official
action
taken.
This
is
just
a
workshop
to
share
some
ideas
and
introduce
some
experts
in
the
field
of
waterfront
development.
So
I
guess
ask
for
a
motion
to
okay,
so
we.
C
But
again
this
is
this
is
to
present
I
guess
some
some
concepts-
and
you
know
for
for
our
purpose-
is
that
we
know
we've
got
a
waterfront
that
has
tremendous
opportunity
and
it
takes.
You
know
more
than
a
village,
a
bunch
of
ideas
in
order
to
say
what
hammer
out
of
power,
but
one
could
go
down,
and
so
let's
go
through
this
before
I
introduce
our
special
guest.
You
know
Kenny,
as
people
would
ask
questions
and
we'll
try
to
identify.
If
you
have
a
viewer,
I
am
with
you,
so
that
would
be
the
plan.
C
C
E
E
We're
giving
you
the
first
20
years
of
our
woods
program,
we've
been
running,
alarms
and
without
400
projects
have
been
recognized.
This
little
website
there's
an
interactive
database.
You
can
get
all
kinds
of
information:
the
website,
www-what
offense
center
war
morgue
and
we'll
give
you
our
first
book,
which
is
waterfront
cities,
reclaim
their
edge,
wrote
this
in
the
80s
and
it's
the
first
five
years
of
our
Award
winners
for
your.
E
E
E
So
without
further
ado,
I
want
to
read
this
quote.
The
middle
architectural
credit
started
during
our
first
annual
international
conference
in
1983
and
the
sentiment
still
lasts
less
for
us.
Our
bodies
and
spirits
need
the
fresh
breezes
blowing
from
the
water.
We
need
the
sense
of
community
for
opportunities
for
festivity
for
artistic
expression,
recreation
and
commercial
bustle
that
urban
water
friends
offer.
E
E
E
Is
the
waterfront
of
split
it's
absolutely
beautiful?
If
you
ever
get
a
chance
to
go
there,
it's
it's
terrific,
historic
and
just
wonderful.
Now
this
is
a
historic
photograph
that
I
found
on
the
waterfront.
This
is
something
is
great
than
for
you
to
go
to.
You
know
history
alive.
Here's
a
woman
sitting
on
the
waterfront
looking
out
over
the
harbor
there
was
this
incredible
stretch
of
cafes.
All
outdoor
cafe
is
very
formal,
Boulevard
and
all,
of
course,
all
the
historic
buildings
behind
him.
E
G
E
D
E
B
E
Anyway,
funk
is
fun
and
you
know
we
drove
took
us
down
to
your
Beach
area.
We
really
love
that
with
all
that
that
big
shark,
this
is
another
as
you
went,
wandering
around
the
corner,
but
the
beautiful
trees
and
the
wide
walkway
in
the
boats.
It's
really
beautiful,
going
around
the
waterfront,
and
so
you
can
tell.
F
E
E
And
here
this
is
under
construction,
but
I
thought
this
was
an
interesting.
It
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
a
snack
bar
or
a
bar
with
a
see-through
aspect,
so
you
can
see
the
water
and
there
once
was
as
long.
The
lining
is
unusual.
It's
going
to
imagine
now.
It's
all
grown
up
in
the
vegetation.
I
bet
it's
beautiful
I
put
this
in
because,
of
course,
you
are
a
seafood
sculpture.
This
was
behind
the
scenes,
it's
not
on
the
waterfront,
but
seafood
markets.
E
E
Along
the
edge,
so
this
is
Westminster
Bosch
Columbia
notice
the
constraints
on
website.
Well,
today
you
see
the
parks
there
and
all
that
green
sward.
That's!
What's
today,
now
today
and
I'm,
going
to
show
you
several
before
and
afters
and
they're
always
inspirational
I
think
so
this
is
a
linear
park,
and
these
are
some
of
the
designs.
Look
at
the
seats,
the
boulders
that
are
meant
to
go
and
the
flowers
lighting
this
is.
E
E
D
E
D
E
E
And
they
both
this
Gloucester
Harbor,
walk
and
Trask's
or
they're
all
guarded
around
the
walkway
that
it's
interactive
with
sorry
with
your
cell
phone
to
take
pictures
and
send
it
back
to
your
foot
box.
You
can
listen
to
the
local
authors,
you
can
listen
to
mimic.
It's
just
incredible
is
a
really
remarkable
thing.
Here's.
E
My
friend
against
that
fun
thing
and
then
there's
a
lot
of
thoughts.
But
again
this
is
so
simple
and
so
beautiful,
but
somebody
might
complicate
it
but
I
think
it's
elephant
is
simplicity,
there's
the
votes
and
then
rather
than
terms
of
tracks,
and
you
can
see
where
you
can
put
your
phone
up
and
get
an
interpretation
again.
E
Cushions
and
everything
they're
taking
off
all
over
the
country
or
the
world,
and
you
can
see
people
are
just
hanging
out
having
a
good
time
eating
their
lobster.
Rolls
and
and
their
next
story
is
a
real
working
fishing
area
and
they
have
all
the
guys
are
hanging
out
there,
the
coop
for
their
lobstermen
and
then
they're
selling.
E
Of
course,
lobster
rolls
when
Gary
New,
Zealand
and
again
celebrating
a
bit
of
the
industrial
working
waterfront
style
with
those
sheds
behind
and
then
the
beautiful
plantings
in
front,
which
it's
a
great
looking
thing
and
it
combines
green
space
working
waterfront
and
they
have
a
lot
of
public
art.
As
you
can
see
from
that
steel,
sculpture
and
that's
their
Harbor
walk.
Their
art
walk
is
to
call
it
and
you
go
somewhere
and
you
see
maps
and
you
get
a
brochure
to
walk
the
whole
waterfront.
E
It's
called
Art
Walk
and
those
are
a
couple
pieces
of
the
artwork
there
which
are
million
of
the
industries
that
they
had
at
one
time
now.
This
is
in
Toronto
and
there's
a
working
sugar
refinery,
and
so
just
so
there
it
is,
and
it's
still
working
there
and
it's
very
bold
and
robust,
and
so
they
took
I
want
to
show
you
them
in
it.
E
D
E
E
This
is
Portland
Oregon,
and
this
is
one
of
the
first
projects
on
the
Portland
riverfront.
It's
called
River
place
and
it
combines
housing,
retail
boutique,
hotel,
a
public
walkway,
a
boutique,
restaurant,
floating,
floating,
marina
and
those
floating
docks
on
the
front
there
fully
publicly
publicly
accessible
and
I
really
like
this
project.
Just
it's.
B
E
D
E
Greenery
of
going
down
to
the
water,
they
also
have
a
nice
walkway
that
so
boats
can
get
down
into
the
river
they're
very
big
on
access
in
Portland.
This
is
a
town
as
Owensboro
Kentucky.
Now
this
is,
you
know
nobody,
not
many
people
get
to
Owensboro
Kentucky
and
we
we
were
involved
in
a
workshop
there
to
law,
community
work
with
them
and
here's
a
sort
of
you
know.
Okay,
it's
got
a
walk
sidewalk.
They.
E
E
D
E
And
there
you
can
see
it
in
daylight,
the
CD
the
little
ramp
to
get
on
the
boat
face,
but
again
the
simplicity
and
here's
a
little
boathouse
and
maybe,
as
we
were
talking
yesterday
with
a
lot
of
people,
don't
we
get
lots
of
all
different
kinds
of
boating
on
your
waterfront
and
you'll
need
some.
Both
houses.
E
And
that's
a
huge,
huge
Community
Center
on
the
waterfront
there
and
notice
the
steps
down
to
the
get
you
closer
to
the
water.
I
love
the
Adirondacks.
Here's
what
the
words
for
the
little
kids
and
the
kind
of
coffee
table
there
for
your
mug
and
then
they
had
a
fountain
in
the
summer
and
in
the
winter.
That's
not
a
problem
for
you,
but
anyways
I!
E
Think
it's
a
very
beautiful
thing
and
then
they
did
a
lot
of
things
like
these
sort
of
Follies
that
go
out
into
the
water
as
part
of
the
walkway
and
at
night
they
light
up
and-
and
they
have
these
tiny
little
piers
that
go
out.
So
people
can
get
over
the
water
people
love
to
get
over
the
water
and
then
more
sculptures.
And
then
this
sort
of
movie
thing
that
goes
on
in
those
little
Follies
and
then
finally,
they
are
very
big
on
Native
Americans
and
that's
a
sort
of
story.
D
E
B
E
Parks
built
she
had
a
lot
of
programming
and
then
she
she'd
left,
and
there
was
a
new
mayor
and
so
on.
And
then
the
whole
project
went
moribund
and
came
back
to
life
again
about
25
years
later,
and
there
was
a
Detroit
riverfront
Conservancy
started
and
that
energy
in
that
group
took
it
forward
to
make
an
unbelievable
amount
of
River
Riverwalk
and.
E
Stencil
structures
shade
a
bike:
rental
area,
that's
a
restrooms,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
this
is
they've,
really
come
a
long
way
and
they
deserved
the
award.
They
got.
Here's
my
friend
Harriet,
who
started
it
all
in
the
Recreation
Department
four
years
ago
and
that
carousel
it
was
commissioned
by
an
art
they
commissioned.
E
D
E
E
No
I'm
having
a
senior
moment
here,
it's
in
the
Midwest,
it's
on
a
river
and
it's
a
very
little
bit.
You
know
the
Packers
right,
the
cheese
people,
then
this
is
a
very,
very
small
area
and
they
built
this
thing
to
get
the
people
to
be
able
to
reach
the
river,
because
very
often
in
these
communities,
people
have.
E
E
This
is
Auckland
New
Zealand.
This
is
silo
Park
as
part
of
a
larger
installation.
That's
just
got
a
top
honor,
it's
it's
built
a
cheek-by-jowl
to
tank
farms
on
the
waterfront
and
it
has
working
waterfront
fishing
and
it's
beautifully
executed
and
that
I'm
showing
this
because
it's
a
silo
Park
and
they
do
a
lot
of
programming
there
and
so
on
Friday
evenings
when
the
weather's
good
a
good
part
of
the
year.
They
have
movies
and
I'll
show
you
later
on
projected
onto
the
silo,
but
people
flocked
down
there.
B
B
H
E
D
E
And
that's
getting
me
back
to
continue
on
programming.
This
is
Wellfleet
Massachusetts,
where
they
have
a
whole
waster
program
with
the
spats
and
trying
to
encourage
more
oyster
production
and
they
want
an
award
from
us,
but
they
have
a
festival
and
I
point
again.
Festivals
are
a
wonderful
thing
to
have
in
your
community
in
here.
The
Fest
supports
local
economy
and
people.
You
know
they
do
the
contest
and
do
the
eating
and
they
have
fun
there.
They
are
having
fun,
and
this.
B
D
E
D
E
Partly
was
trying
to
say,
we
are
not
the
city,
everybody
thinks
we
are
and
you
can
not
going
to
be
labor
reading
all
this,
but
it
has
huge
impact
on
the
city
and
it
also
helped,
though
the
perception
of
the
city
I'm
going
to
oh,
and
they
say
here
we
are
here.
We
are
in
Philadelphia
and
Philadelphia
for
a
long
time.
B
D
B
D
E
B
D
D
E
E
Blah
so
they
hired
wonderful
designers
to
create
super
Street,
Harbor
Park
and
my
I
can't
tell
you
what
a
spectacular
place
this
is
they
in
addition
to
the
upload
areas,
they
took
three
voyages
and
hook
together,
so
they
may
just
kind
of
perch
and
there's
a
beer
garden
over
on
the
on
one
side
and
then
there's
all
sorts
of
chairs
and
tours
and
everything
you
can
imagine.
Then
this
floating
garden
in.
D
D
E
D
B
B
E
B
B
D
E
What
good
is
that
I
mean-
and
this
is
a
little
I-
think
it's
a
great
for
postage
stamp
refuge.
This
is
important
Oregon,
you
don't
often
see
what's
in
the
water
or
in
the
wetland,
and
so
this
this
wonderful
interpretive
piece
tells
you
about
the
wildlife
so
that,
even
if
you
don't
get
a
chance
to
see
the
little
critters
you're
told
what's
there,
and
here.
E
D
E
D
E
The
area,
so
this
is
a
children's
play
area,
but
it
also
is
a
celebration
texture
of
Davenport
and
also
did
this
wonderful
art
piece
on
one
of
their
iOS,
which
takes
all
you
know.
They
have
to
endure
groan,
shot
and
these
wonderful
sculptures,
which
are
just
fun
and
they
take
the
minimum
in
the
time
this.
D
E
A
very
industrial
area
for
a
long
time,
but
going
back
to
the
wonderful
cutout
and
the
pictures
and
interpretive
signage
historic
signage.
This
was
an
artist
who
got
email
or
a
whimsical
and
tell
me
stories
and
beautiful
artwork.
This
is
in
Minneapolis
I
know,
so
my
dad
can
look
at
the
history.
The
little
kids
can
play
with
the
snails
and
interpreting
the
wild.
F
D
D
B
E
E
D
E
D
E
E
D
E
B
E
B
D
B
B
B
E
E
E
B
D
E
We
were
saying
in
the
car
boxes,
you
don't
need
a
lot
of
room
to
sell
ice
cream
and
this
is
in
Dublin,
where
they
literally
there's
not
much
space,
and
they
put
this
little
coffee
bar
there
in
this
very
narrow
area
and
in
Paris
they
had.
These
sort
of
you
know,
pop-up,
vending
and
restaurant
and
cafe
and.
D
E
To
build
this
children's
play
area
was
a
ship
and
it
had
all
sorts
of
things
bells
and
whistles
it
opened
and
closed
and
blank
out,
but
it
got
old.
It
was
very
beloved.
Twenty-Five
years
people
from
Halifax
adored
this
facility
when
it
got
old,
see
how
fun
and
so
they
said
they
had
to
replace
it.
So
they
commissioned.
D
B
E
Work
Boat
Works
company
to
create
what
is
now
this
crazy
submarine
II
kind
of
thing,
and
they
also
had
a
decommissioning
of
the
old
boat
complete
with
the
with
bagpipers
and
everything
it
was.
It
was
just
it's
a
wonderful
story,
and
it's
and
it's
teeny
I,
can't
remember
the
square
footage
of
this
tiny
Park.
This
is
in
Santa,
Monica,
California,
again,
another
very
small
installation
done
by
the
architect,
an
architect's
in
California,
the
man
with
the
blue
jacket
on.
E
E
E
D
B
J
E
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
big
deal.
Paint
wait
on
the
mall
you're
in
business,
or
this
is
the
silo
in
Auckland
and
I'm.
Just
going
to
end
up.
I
know
that
we're
not
talk
about
the
role
of
marketplaces,
the
cultural
centers,
because
I
think
that's
one
of
the
ideas
but
been
floated
for
down
here
and
I
said
public
gathering
places
for
people
to
enjoy
leisure
and
shopping
experiencing,
including
restaurants,
cafes
and.
D
D
E
E
E
See
Harborside
is
Sydney
which
took
inspiration
from
Baltimore
established
in
1988
is
fair,
throwing
harbor
and
it's
described
as
Boris
described
as
a
leisure
experience.
You
see,
we've
gotten
away
from
festival,
marketplaces,
127
stores,
a
bowling
alley,
lifestyle
stores
and
a
65
foot
wide
promenade.
This
bump
this
walkway.
We
were
there
just
a
couple.
D
E
M
E
E
A
whole
new
generation,
this
little
girl
is
probably
enter
this
little
girl's,
probably
in
her
30s.
So
it's
a
whole
new
opportunity,
a
whole
new
audience,
I
just
thought
about
that
when
I
think
30
years,
my
gosh,
so
that
was
that
I
conclude
and
we
wish
you
all
the
best,
as
you
begin
to
think
about
this
waterfront,
that's
just
full
of
opportunity
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
attention.
C
Whether
it's
it's
working,
whether
it's
you
know
part
of
the
harbor
development
and
we've
got
some
folks
here-
that
you
know
have
shown
interest
in
in
every
aspect.
But
again
I
said
there
was
more
facets
to
this
diamond.
Then
you
know
then
stop
and
really
is
apparent,
but
we
want
to
build
it
and
that's.
C
The
whole
thrust
today
is
to
hear
what
people
think
and
you
know
understand
what
is
the
best
path
to
go
and
you've
seen
it
thirty
years
ago,
and
here
we
are
today
and
and
some
of
the
challenges
we
have,
we
just
faced
a
storm.
You
know
that
we've
got
to
take
into
consideration
what
works
best
for
us
at
that
spot
at
that
waterfront,
but
we've
got
a
tremendous
amount
of
waterfront.
C
If
you
just
look
at
the
you
know
the
boardwalk
opportunity,
the
you
know
the
casino
row,
the
marina
the
museum
scene
that
we
have
so
we
need
to
hammer
out
together.
You
know:
we've
got
a
lot
of
folks
here.
They
have
a
lot
of
ideas
and
what
works
best
for
us.
So
with
that
Kenny.
If
there's
anybody
have
any
questions
of
an
and
you
know
if
we
need
to
go
back
to
some
of
these
slides
and
views,
we're
here,
I
think
Gerald's,
going
to
Manly
the
idea
board
over
here
and
we'll
interact.
N
K
About
the
quarter,
one
of
the
approvers
like
to
see
about
doing
is
improvement
to
the
marina.
The
marina
we
have
here,
especially
the
location,
is
probably
one
of
the
best
here
in
the
northern
Gulf.
The
only
problem
is,
the
marina
is
not
updated
and
it
needs
to
be
updated
and,
as
some
of
my
thoughts
I,
do
have
some
ideas
with
me
and
also
brought
Bryce
ease
with
the
Bellingham
marine
and
they
build
marinas
all
over
the
world
and
I
like
to
share
some
ideas
with
him
all
right.
C
C
Prizes
and
a
lot
of
attracting
you
know
purple
and
we
know
a
better
configuration
to
service
that
festival.
It's
a
festival
of
boats
and
fishing
and
aspect
of
it.
That's
the
marina,
but
now
the
the
green
space
there
web
of
opportunity
to
to
welcome
area
from
oil
and
when
I
took
away
touched
or
people
want
to
touch
the
water.
That
edge
is
important
a
little
bit
you
there,
but
we
need
to
put
it
all
together
that
bridge
that
was
constructed
after
control.
M
I
made
a
little
list
yesterday,
while
we
were
talking
and
a
couple
of
things
that
popped
into
my
mind.
If
any
of
you
have
ever
seen
or
I
know
many
of
you've
seen
and
heard
about
the
sea
organ
in
Croatia,
you
know
it
could
happen
here.
There's
a
thing:
that's
happened
in
Australia,
where
you
can
go
into
an
environment
where
they
have
oyster
reefs
and
you
can
stand
at
a
long
table
and
they
will
scoop
up
or
stirs
throw
them
on
the
table.
You
eat
oysters
right
there
and
drink
a
glass
of
wine.
M
That's
a
crazy
experiment
that
experienced
that
a
lot
of
people
would
love
to
have
again
I
think
waterside,
music,
fresh
seafood
market,
where
people
could
kind
of
hang
out
and
then
go
home
and
take
seafood
with
them
and
now
I
know
all
the
seafood
vendors
are
going.
You
know,
but
those
vendors
could
set
up
out
there
and
do
that
type
of
thing.
It
doesn't
mean
you're,
taking
business
away
from
people
in
your
local
market,
you're,
offering
them
another
opportunity
for
business.
M
I
just
think
access
to
the
water
think
about.
In
the
old
days
when
we
used
to
have
those
one
marathons
out
to
the
Isle
of
Capri,
you
could
still
do
swim,
marathons
and
back
Bay
Biloxi
right
there
at
the
point.
I
think
people
need
access
to
small
boat
rentals.
We
have
this
beautiful
here
now
at
Deer
Island.
Nobody
can
get
to
it.
We've
got
to
develop
some
type
of
water
craft
that
can
cart
people
back
and
forth
there.
J
Where
Jackson
with
the
blocks
in
wcp,
our
Economic
Development
Committee
and
our
environmental
climate
justice
committee
is
very
active
and
strong
and
trying
to
project
ideas
or
East
Biloxi
Pacific,
we
both
work
for
all
parts
of
the
city
and
I
know
that
the
subtitle
of
this
workshop
is
and
related
areas.
I
know
that
the
focus
is
on
the
Point
cadet
and
that's
that's
fantastic
I'm
excited
about
what's
going
on
there,
but
then,
as
I.
Look
at
the
special
I
see
where
our
Coast
goes.
J
North
of
the
page
goes
to
the
northeast
part,
and
then
the
guy
goes.
Oh,
what
you
told
or
tour
for
us
and
all
the
way
over
to
maybe
it's
not
him
a
picture,
but
potentially
it
goes
west
at
were
going
down
and
IPR
and
I
like
to
think
that
in
terms
of
and
related
and
related
areas,
those
opportunities,
those
are
there
too,
and
that
if
we
put
together
all
the
components-
and
they
are
in
that
region,
that
is
trying
to
piece
things
together
in
terms
of
economic
development
and
environmental
concerns.
J
P
Good
afternoon
I'm
sorry
turning
my
back
to
you.
My
name
is
Milton
Sinatra
from
visit
Mississippi,
Gulf
Coast.
This
is
a
very
special
place
to
live
and
to
visit.
Actually
13.5
million
people
visited
us
last
year,
79
percent
of
those
came
by
car
by
cars,
so
we
to
provide
some
sort
of
a
very
important
experience,
flagship
experience
to
them.
What
we're
trying
to
do
and
we're
seeking
to
bring
more
experiential
travelers
to
our
coast.
P
Those
people
would
like
to
learn
about
who
we
are
and
what
we
are,
but
they
want
to
do
it
through
different
experiences
and
this
type
of
facility.
Mr.
mayor,
it's
so
important
that
we
have
it
knowing
Gulfport
will
have
the
aquarium
and
here
to
experience
the
Gulf
Coast.
Everything
is
start
by
the
Gulf
and
hence
by
the
Gulf
by
the
water
and
what
the
tournament
is
so
important.
P
Having
that
marine
already
have
entertainment
for
different
experience,
that
people
that
come
here
have
a
place
to
go
to
stay
one
day
two
days
one
hour,
but
they
see
something
different
people
wants
to
come
here.
We
need
to
provide
this
type
of
worldwide
type
of
facilities,
so
they
can
spend
the
time
and
the
money
when
they
come
here.
Thank
you.
So
much.
L
L
I
love,
East
Biloxi
that
point
that
part
of
East
Biloxi
is
incredible
and
I
think
the
potential
there
to
do
exactly
what
they
did
in
split
is
definitely
a
plus
for
us,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
I'm
interested
in
is
the
possibility
of
expanding
our
marina
out
to
the
east,
with
a
neat
breakwater
that
might
incorporate
million
buoys
as
opposed
to
building
docks
again
because
we're
so
vulnerable
to
hurricanes
here
and
a
lot
of
the
Train
all
over
the
country.
Caribbean
in
this
country,
as
well,
F
saw
song
recently
in
San.
L
Diego
are
nearing
buoys,
so
I'd
like
the
city
to
consider
the
possibility
of
a
environmentally
friendly
black
water
on
the
east
side
of
the
point,
cadet
marina,
that's
jetting
out
toward
Ocean
Springs
without
impacting
the
oyster
reef.
That's
another,
the
oyster
reef
out
there
so
I
think
that's
really
bring
in
transient
bailey's
from
all
over
the
country.
Here
and
I
agree
with
me.
The
point
cadet
Malia
definitely
needs
an
upgrade.
That
fishing
tournament
is
incredible,
and
it's
I'm
told
by
the
participant.
L
That's
that
participants
say
it's
the
most
wonderful
boat
tournament
fishing
tournament
in
the
country
right
now,
so
think
about
that,
and
we
need
to
improve
on
that.
So
why,
in
there
I
think
Deer
Island
is
a
beautiful
natural
Hall,
though
they've
got
such
an
asset
with
Deer
Island
I'm,
not
from
Gulfport
I,
was
in
Gulfport
for
30
years
and
moved
back
to
Biloxi
a
little
Point
cadet
at
the
19k
condos
I
know
to
get
Tyler
looking
at
that
beautiful
sunrise
on
Deer
Island.
L
If
that
golden
glow
is
especially
at
sunset,
so
just
think
about
utilizing,
derailing
lure
as
well
and
maybe
natural
at
some
point
in
natural
eco
park
with
nature
trails.
Those
exhibits,
those
interpretive
exhibits
that
you
mentioned
the
restrooms
are
going
to
be
protocol
for
public
park
is
going
to
be
critical
for
the
public.
These
are
things
you
have
to
consider
without
losing
our
green
space.
Thank
you.
A
Listen
that
this
is
great
that
there,
by
sharing
these
ideas
here
today
and
I,
just
want
to
throw
one
out
there
too,
and
no
offense
to
any
ethnic
group.
But
cloche
is
wonderful
and
it
is
part
of
our
history,
and
it
is
part
of
you
know
the
fabric
of
what
we
do
here
and
I
love,
seeing
the
sea
Oregon
but
there's
another
aspect:
that's
natural
to
Biloxi
that
we've
talked
about
a
concept
and
that's
raised
boardwalks.
A
It's
called
in
dubrovnik
and
rosa
means,
hole,
hole
in
the
wall
and
you
literally
walk
into
a
hole
down
some
stairways
and
then
you're
on
the
outside
of
the
walls
of
dubrovnik
and
relaxing
having
an
adult
beverage
and
watching
all
the
boating
and
all
the
activity
on
the
waterfront
going
on,
and
they
light
up
to
have
LED
lights.
That
light
out
the
light
up
the
outside
walls
of
dubrovnik.
But
in
this
concept
you
could
actually
create
those
rays.
A
Boardwalks
with
retail
have
a
panoramic
view
that
can
see
the
beautiful
either
back
bay
or
or
whatever
one
of
you
it
would
be,
and
to
let
people
experience
that
both
visitors
that
we're
trying
to
attract
and
what
an
attraction
that
would
be
and
our
locals
that
like
to
entertain
and
take
their
families
out
of
their
friends
along
something
like
that,
the
other
thing
it
does.
It
actually
mitigates
what,
if
you
built
a
raised
or
a
wall
and
and
boardwalk.
C
H
Me
and
I'm
actually
glad
I'm
falling
councilman
Glavine,
because
that
was
the
point
I
wanted
to
make
and
brag
on
the
city
for
because
this
is
a
huge
opportunity
for
what
we
have
that
we
can
do
with
a
blank
slate
ticking
chair
divers.
The
city
is
already
doing
with
the
connectivity.
I
mean
you
look
at
the
beautiful
boardwalk
that
the
city's
constructed
and
that's
huge,
that's
a
huge
opportunity,
because
I
do
not
want
for
us
for
to
forget
that
millennial
and
working
age
population.
H
This
is
a
great
opportunity
to
help
attract
those
people
and
a
lot
of
these
ideas,
especially
what
miss
Kim
was
saying
to
these
are
great
opportunities
that
can
attract
them.
I
mean
we
can
talk
about
food
trucks
and
walkability
and
access,
but
these
are
huge
opportunities
to
help
keep
those
that
working
age
population
that
we
so
desperately
need.
So
I'm
going
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
I
appreciate
you
all
and
all
the
discussion.
C
G
Ellis
with
the
seafood
industries
and
I'm
also
a
past
president
of
the
MSU
alumni
chapter
down
here
on
the
coast
and
I,
took
part
in
the
initial
oyster
aquaculture
meetings
that
were
held
here
at
City,
Hall
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
keep
focus
on
our
universities
as
well.
We
had
representation
here
from
Mississippi
State
and
Southern
Miss
both
play
a
critical
role
in
kind
of
the
revitalization
of
our
of
our
Gulf
of
our
seafood
industry
and
some
of
the
professors
from
Starkville.
G
You
know
they
brought
some
great
ideas
down
with
a
living,
shoreline
and
I.
Think
that's
critical.
You
know
if
people
could
get
on
there
and
actually
see
some
of
the
oyster
farming,
that's
happening
behind
Deer
Island
there.
Let's
do
that
right
after
shoreline
where,
where
our
citizens
can
go
see
and
our
tourists,
they
talked
about
pools.
You
know
building
polls
down
there,
because
I
think
the
one
thing
we
haven't
really
talked
about.
The
whole
lot
is
the
velocity
zone
that
we're
talking
about
business
in
so
on.
G
You
know
I
think
we
have
to
be
wise
and
how
we
spend
our
our
money
down
there,
knowing
that
it's
a
very
vulnerable
area
of
the
city,
probably
the
most
vulnerable
area
of
the
city,
so
there's
certainly
well
I-
know
I
would
be
in
support
of
amphitheaters
things
like
that.
But
basically
the
center
will
win
a
surge
comes
in
and
goes
back
out.
B
F
In
2017,
the
city
passed
the
waterfront
ordinance,
which
basically
laid
out
an
area
to
be
protected
where
future
growth
on
it
by
any
developer
or
anything
else,
has
to
leave
an
area
of
the
waterfront
open
for
public
use.
They
can
build
on
it
with
their
own
boardwalks
or
anything
else,
but
the
idea
is
for
the
general
public
tourists
and
everyone
else
to
have
access
to
the
water.
F
That
ordinance
covers
the
whole
city
of
Biloxi,
from
the
Popp's
Ferry
Bridge,
all
the
way
to
about
to
go
for
city
limits,
and
so
there's
an
area
of
basically
25
feet.
That's
protected,
so
any
place
that
the
safe
presently
owns
all
has
control
of
they
can
build
their
own
boardwalks
or
whatever,
and
then
each
developer
that
comes
in
we're
hoping
will
follow
that
same
means
and
build
along
the
waterfront.
You
can
still
have
you
Peter
your
private
bid
and
stuff,
but
you
have
to
leave
ourselves
for
the
people
on
the
board
front.
F
C
To
join
with
buzzy
they're,
literally
30,000
under
your
feet
of
sea
wall
that
we
have,
we've
got
14,000
have
10-foot
boardwalk,
that's
on
that
structure
is
on
top
of
the
sea
wall
and
see
was,
is
1927
nine
steps
in
most
places
saying
the
old
project,
so
we're
gonna,
try
and
investigate.
We've
got
Corps
of
Engineers
approval.
It's
a
walkable
spots
like
that
on
top
seawall,
where
you
can
jump
off
into
the
sand
again
they're
bits
and
pieces
from
the
B's
Road.
C
B
C
A
knee
wall
that
goes
up
to
you
know
keep
the
sand
from
blowing
off
the
beach.
We
can't
do
a
lot
about
the
profile
of
the
sand
and
and
see
what
all
those
kinds
of
things,
but
there
are
some
improvements
that
were
all
loved
we've
got
called
engineer,
approval
to
to
double
type
of
things
that
they
ought
to.
I
Amanda,
a
still
at
I
love
a
good
project
I
the
possibilities
at
that
waterfront
are
absolutely
amazing.
I
went
and
drove
it
before
I
came
here
today.
Just
so
I
could
have
a
fresh
in
my
mind.
What
I
felt
like
would
be
fabulous
there.
Everything
people
are
talking
about,
that's
what
I
can
see.
We
need
event
space.
We
obviously
need
event
space
down
there.
The
seafood
industry
museum
has
an
amazing
space
right
now,
it's
a
little
bit
back,
which
is
what
we
need
as
far
as
a
covered
space.
I
This
needs
to
be
an
open
space
that,
like
they
were
saying,
could
wash
out
come
back
in,
should
we
have
a
storm
or
something
I
love
the
idea
of
an
amphitheater
I
love
the
idea
of
being
able
to
access
Deer,
Island
I.
Think
that's
huge,
because
when
you
drive
down
there
you
you
look
at
it
and,
like
you
were
saying
yeah
you
could
say,
but
you
can't
get
to
it,
and
I
was
thinking.
Why
couldn't
we
do
something
to
get
over
there?
Well,
you
know.
I
Obviously
we
have
to
have
boat
traffic,
but
there's
got
to
be
some
way
to
get
over
to
Deer,
Island
and
utilize
that
space
light
it
up.
Do
something
really
fun.
You
know
during
the
holidays
year
round,
we
should
you
know
we
should
be
lighting
up
everything
along
this
coast.
I
think
like
I,
like
one
little
project
I
did
before,
but
but
I
do
want
to
see
that
revisited
and
I
do
want
to
see
all
of
this
come
to
fruition.
I
think
this
is
huge.
Q
Thank
You
Vincent,
when
the
architects
group
first
thought
in
hearing
of
all
these
components
that
could
exist
on
the
point
or
what's
lacking,
I
think
is
placemaking,
so
I
think
the
slideshow
was
great,
shows
many
great
components
of
great
waterfronts,
but
in
terms
of
placemaking
I
think
it
needs
an
anchor
project.
What
would
that
project
be
to
attract
people
there?
One
thought
Frank
and
I've
been
talking
about
back
here
is
a
residential
component.
Could
a
residential
component
exist
the
sustainable
function
of
it
being
what
is
sustainable
down
there?
Q
So
the
idea
of
building
something
that
could
take
a
bath
have
having
been
through
it
ourselves.
We
know
the
challenge
of
that.
My
first
thought
is
the
sustainable
development.
There
would
be
elevated,
so
I
think
some
of
the
concepts
have
been
thrown
out
or
elevation
28,
so
a
sustainable
place.
Making
that
has
a
residential
component
I
think
could
work
otherwise.
You've
not
created
place
and
I
think
there's
some
fundamental
rules
of
place
making
in
terms
of
places
that
people
feel
comfortable
in.
Q
So
if
you
have
a
grid
that
creates
pad
site
development
opportunities
for
private
development,
I
think
that
would
work
thinking
of
it
in
terms
of
more
of
a
private
side
development,
because
I
think
if
we
put
public
money
into
it,
the
question
is
going
to
be
where's
the
private
side,
so
private
side
development
somehow
has
to
be
incentivized
and
without
some
sort
of
public
investment
in
the
infrastructure
that
supports
it.
It
I
think,
is
in
jeopardy
of
not
happening.
M
Thoughts
about
that
art
is
that
what
comes
first,
the
chicken
or
the
egg
and
I've
waited
for
years
to
see
what
would
happen
on
the
point
and
unfortunately,
after
Katrina
and
so
much
not
much
happen.
So
I
hadn't
built
a
house
on
Holly
Street,
because
I
wanted
to
come
back
home
and
even
with
the
scary
I
went
for
Monday
I
said.
M
For
me,
the
risk
was
worth
the
reward
for
360
days
a
year
to
look
at
my
window
and
CD
Ryland
and
highway
90
and
the
beauty
of
where
I
live,
as
opposed
to
worrying
about
three
or
four
days.
If
it
was
going
to
be
washed
out,
because
if
the
lid
comes
off
I'm
going
to
hose
it
out
and
we'll
start
over,
so
that's
kind
of
risky
are
people.
What
do
we
do?
First?
Do
we
draw?
M
Do
we
build
the
attractions
to
draw
people
back
down
here,
or
do
you
try
and
and
and
private
developer
in,
to
build
stuff
hoping
he
can
sell
it?
And
people
will
move
here?
It's
a
it's
a
it's
a
catch-22:
I'm,
just
telling
you
from
somebody
who
just
built
a
house
here
and
I
have
to
in
never
in
my
life
what
I've
imagined
that
everything
I
wanted
to
buy
I
would
have
to
across
I
110
and
go
to
do
you
feel
fine.
D
C
Yeah
not
so
much
there's
a
little
bit
too
nice,
the
first
Street
there
you
go
to
the
West.
Excuse
me
up
there
between
Howard
Avenue
right
across
the
street,
with
NOLA
Lodge.
You
see
right
there
that
block
not
close
to
the
right
there
right
in
there
I
mean
if
you
owned
a
number
of
opportunities.
Well,
it's
kind
of
or
whatever,
and
then
the
infrastructure
flows,
this
royal
dogness
and
and
the
you
know
the
center
again.
Opportunities
or
amount
of
capital
gains,
get
people
with
those
kinds
of
things,
but
the
residential
component,
good
everything
pops
so.
C
R
R
Paul
Gavin
Gulf
Regional
Planning
Commission
couple
comments.
I
want
to
like
the
projects
that
have
the
dual
purpose:
disaster:
resistance
and
walkability
and
access
to
to
the
waterfront
and
to
I
want
to
share
a
little
bit
of
the
how
I
was
involved
in
another
community
and
their
water
park
front
development,
and
basically,
they
waited
ten
years
for
Bass
Pro
to
show
up,
and
after
ten
years
they
decided.
You
know
what
the
water
is,
the
attraction
we
don't
need,
Bass
Pro,
and
so
they
just
started.
R
They
put
out
a
boardwalk,
they
put
out
boats,
they
put
out
kayaks,
they
put
out
a
bike
rental,
they
did
a
water
taxi
and
slowly
the
development
followed
and
every
time
they
heard
they
couldn't
do
it.
They
did.
They
read
dug
a
canal,
they
put
boats
in
there.
It's
like
Venice,
so
think
about
what
can
be
done
and
one
can't
be
done.
S
Are
y'all
doing
my
name
is
Brice
Fisher
I'm,
an
outsider
I'm
from
Galveston
Texas,
but
I've
been
working
with
Bobby
for
about
a
year
on
the
marina
aspect
of
things,
and
so
he
asked
me
to
come
down
and
just
sit
and
as
I'm
listening
to
everything
made.
A
couple
of
observations.
Number
one
is
access
to.
The
water
is
important
and
marinas
kind
of
drive
that
in
the
projects
that
we
build
around
the
world,
the
marinas
a
lot
of
times
are
the
first
things
that
are
done,
and
then
development
comes
around
after
that.
S
So
people
want
to
go
down
and
they
want
to
touch
and
feel
the
water,
and
that
has
to
do
with
you
know
boating,
but
also
accessing
through
kayaks
and
boards,
and
things
of
that
nature
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
talk
about
getting
to
Deer
Island.
One
of
the
things
that
the
city
of
Pensacola
just
did
was
install
a
ferry
system
that
goes
from
Pensacola
to
quiet,
water,
beach
and
also
to
Fort
Pickens,
which
is
a
national
seashore.
S
A
couple
of
big
things
that
I
that
I
took
away
from
those
knows
is
private
public
development.
Our
partnership
drove
these
developments.
It
wasn't
all
public,
it
wasn't
all
private,
so
there's
a
combo
there
and
that's
got
to
be
worked
out.
The
other
thing
is
retail
space,
living
space
and
marina
space,
those
all
kind
of
go
together.
So
the
common
denominator,
and
a
lot
of
things
that
that
we
see
is
shoreline
development,
waterfront
development.
It
all
goes
hand-in-hand,
so
there's
a
way
to
make
that
happen
right
now.
What
I
see
in
this
particular
area?
S
Is
you
have
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
already
there
you've
got
an
attractive
point:
you've
got
a
marina
you've
got
a
you've,
got
facilities
right
next
door,
hotels,
restaurants
and
things
like
that,
so
expanding
into
that
green
space
really
is
very
easy
compared
to
some
other
cities
that
are
trying
to
develop
it
from
the
ground
up
where
they're
going
in
and
knocking
down
entire
neighborhoods
and
building
all
this
infrastructure.
In
order
to
make
this
happen
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
and
if
there's
any
other
questions
or
anything
like
that,
let
me
know.
S
S
We're
rebuilding
the
hurricane
damaged,
Katrina,
marina
in
New
Orleans
right
now,
that's
been
a
long
process
for
them
to
get
it
to
where
it
is
right
now,
but
we're
starting
we're
gonna
start
delivering
docks
there
in
about
a
month
and
a
half.
The
other
thing
that
I
thought
about
and
Bobby
and
I
were
talking
about
this
morning-
is
the
development
along
the
Gulf
Gulf
Coast
going
west
is
becoming
more
and
more
involved,
so
you
have
New
Orleans
rebuilding
their
marina.
S
You've
got
so
a
bunch
of
different
marinas
that
are
being
rebuilt
or
developed
between
here
and
Texas
and
then
down
along
Texas.
So
from
a
boating
standpoint,
a
transient
boating
standpoint,
whether
it's
cruising
boats
or
tournament
related
boats.
These
people
now
have
a
place
to
go
and
they
have
a
jumping-off
point
so
right
now,
if
they
come
down,
there's
not
a
lot
of
reason
for
them
to
continue
west.
S
But
if
Biloxi
has
a
world-class
marina,
they
can
stop
here,
then
they
can
jump
off
to
New
Orleans
and
they
can
jump
off
to
places
like
Lake,
Charles
or
Houston
or
Galveston
or
Port
Aransas.
Things
like
that.
So
there's
a
lot
of
development
moving
west
just
because
moving
east,
it's
all
maxed
out
and
people
are
going
to
want
to
find
a
place
to
go.
I
think.
C
From
you
know,
all
the
charter
boats
go
out
one
time
they
come
back
and
tourists
watch
what
is
offloaded
well.
We
reconfigured
for
about
50
charter
boats
as
I
ride,
buzzy
and
then
another
empathy,
a
dove
component,
where
we've
created
an
amphitheater
for
the
billfish
tournament.
But
literally
this
will
be
you
know
located
in
that
green
space.
So
it
really
is
come
back
and
enjoy
what
you
know
the
fishing
has
to
offer.
So
you
know.
S
A
lot
of
people,
that's
what
they
want
to
see.
You
know
their
Idol
Biloxi
or
they
go
to
any
waterfront
community
and
they
want
to
see
how
people
interact
with
the
water,
it's
shrimping
or
oystering,
or
sport,
fishing
or
whatever,
and
so
some
people
just
want
to
go,
walk
the
docks
and
see
what
came
in
on
the
boats.
That
day.
B
T
T
And
she
recognizes
the
man,
but
a
particularly
we
need
to
just
kind
of
fill
out
a
thought
he
I
know
the
legislature
just
did
a
wonderful
thing
this
week
very
hard
work.
These
guys
were
in
the
thick
of
it
all
the
way
to
create
a
vehicle
for
nine-fold
transformational
projects
to
be
considered
for
BP
economic
damages
funds.
So
it's
a
little
ways
before
it's
operational,
but
it's
being
set
up
and
there
are
other
sources
of
funds.
T
You
know
like
the
RESTORE
Act
and
go
Mesa
tidelands,
but
I
think
what
we're
hearing
today
is
what
would
the
people
like
to
see
done
and
then
is
the
practical
side,
as
several
have
been
mentioning,
you
know
what
are
cost
and
so
forth.
So
this
really
in
a
statement
I'm
going
to
have
a
question
to
kind
of
prompt
the
audience
I
think
the
legislature
rightly,
and
the
Secretary
of
State
correctly
expect
to
have
private
investment
involved
significantly
and
I.
Think
we've
heard
a
lot
of
that
already.
T
My
question
to
the
audience
is:
how
do
we
do
that?
What
is
the
magic-
and
this
is
for
an
and
and
dick
as
well?
My
own
personal
thought,
through
the
years
is
that
to
stimulate
public-private
partnerships
of
the
kind
we're
talking
about
and
there's
lots
of
different
places.
Placemaking
is
very
important,
as
David
Hardy
said,
so,
if
you've
got
a
huge
seascape
but
like
a
big
canvas,
many
empty
spaces,
they're
not
just
the
point
to
that
site,
but
the
context
does
does
matter,
but
it
in
my
own
observation
experience.
T
You've
got
to
be
doing
lots
of
things
at
once,
rather
than
the
chicken
the
egg.
You
need
to
be
cracking
the
eggs
and
raising
the
chickens
all
at
the
same
time.
You
do
it
a
little
bit
at
a
time.
Some
of
it
is
just
baby
steps,
and
some
of
it
is
sowing
the
seeds
for
larger
and
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
detail
that
goes
on
to
a
private
developer.
Making
an
investment
requires
usually
a
really
good
feasibility
study,
really
good
marketing
study
same
for
housing
when
or
mixed
use
any
of
those
things.
T
So
it
seems
to
me,
like
you
know,
if
you
think,
of
a
city
or
any
city,
and
ours
is,
you
know
this
wonderful
heritage
we
have
which
is
so
complex.
It's
really
an
ecosystem
with
many
many
different
parts.
Many
many
living
parts
and
you've
got
to
nurture
all
of
them
and
avoid
the
pollution
and
the
things
that
kill
the
living
parts.
T
So
there's
not
just
one
answer
to
anything:
there's
lots
of
pieces,
but
the
biggest
piece
for
us
to
really
get
a
quantum
leap
in
jobs
and
tax
based
expansion
to
help
the
state
and
the
county
and
the
whole
coast,
not
just
tourism,
but
across
the
board.
The
mayor
said
no
housing
in
East.
Biloxi
we've
been
thinking
about
it
for
13
years,
it's
other
than
Kinross,
and
a
few
huggers
that's
not
happening.
So
how
do
we
make
the
public-private
investment
work?
What
is
the
the
incentive
needed
to
get
private
investors
to
come?
Say
hey?
T
This
is
this
is
a
place
we
want
to
be
and
participate
and
I'm
really
just
kind
of
challenging
y'all.
To
answer
that
everybody,
including
her
wonderful
consultants
here
today,
I
know
Scott-
is
a
developer
himself.
Hack
y'all
have
been
in
this
business
a
long
time.
The
state
has
a
lot
of
programs
that
are
not
related
to
the
coasts
that
maybe
could
be
tapped
in,
but
there's
so
many
great
ideas
we've
heard
this
afternoon
and
have
been
some
of
them
presented
before
and
there's
going
to
be
some
process
for
applying
for
money.
T
M
D
M
U
Sure
we'll
go
to
Doggett
Chet
Harrison.
One
thing
that
Kim
just
brought
up
about
investment
is
all
in
or
in
Galveston
owns
the
pleasure
pier
and
he
also
owns
the
convention
center
that
he
built
with
private
funds,
backed
by
the
hot
tax
in
that
area.
We
own
a
significant
amount
of
property,
or
he
does
just
north
of
the
bridge
that
ties
into
Point
cadet
and
our
interest
lies
within.
What's
behind
the
seawall
or
what's
behind,
what's
built
on
the
waterfront
and
that's
point
cadet
or
that
piece
over
there
and
I've
been
a
long
proponent.
U
The
mayor's
heard
me
say
multiple
multiple
times
as
Gerald
I
said
yes
told
Gerald.
Yesterday
is
a
convention
center.
On
this
end
of
the
the
city,
we
have
a
beautiful
convention
center
that
has
done
very
well
but
being
on
the
tourism
commission
and
Milton's
here,
and
he
could
probably
confirm
as
well
that
people
select
where
they
go
for
meeting
space
based
on
how
many
hotel
rooms
are
within
one
mile
of
the
facility.
Unfortunately,
after
2005
we
lost
significant
a
number
of
hotel
rooms
that
were
around
that
area.
U
So
we
are
me
in
particular
that
space
behind
there
we're
talking
about
how
to
energize
it,
how
to
support
it,
how
to
people
on
it.
We've
got
to
get
the
people
here
first,
so
one
of
the
issues
I
think
any
hotel
you're
on
the
coast
will
tell
you
and
I'm
sure
Kenting
them
confirm.
We
don't
need
any
help
on
the
weekend,
we're
full
where
I
think
most
hotels,
especially
casino
hotels,
are
full
where
the
assistance
is
needed.
U
Almost
year-round
is
weekday
and
it's
an
opportunity
to
elevate
the
hotel
room
rates
to
occupy
the
rooms
by
being
able
to
go
after
the
bigger
conventions
meetings
associations
without
having
to
provide
a
subsidy
and
right
now.
What
happens
and
I
assume
Milton
is
still
happening
is
when
these
people
come
to
us
and
they
have
two
three
four
thousand
people.
You
have
to
provide
a
subsidy
to
bust
them.
Well,
no
one
wants
to
be
bussed
in
the
first
place.
U
U
So
for
that
space
to
me
you
know
and
I,
don't
know
the
logistics
of
load
in
load
out
because
it
does
have
to
be
elevated
but
to
energize
it
to
energize
the
waterfront
to
attract
the
private
investment
for
restaurants
needs
to
be
something
on
the
space
or
nearby
that
can
be
used,
hopefully
year-round,
not
just
a
summer
piece
now.
Also
we
own
our
owner
owns
pleasure,
pier
at
Galveston
Island
as
well
now
I
know,
there's
another
hotelier
in
that
area.
That's
talking
about
something
similar,
so
obviously
wouldn't
want
to
build
two
of
those.
U
But
those
are
again
things
I
think
was
most
important,
yes
having
a
beautiful
waterfront,
but
how
do
we
get
people
from
out
of
town
to
spending
the
incremental
dollars
in
our
area
down
there
and
either
it's
that
amusement
piece?
And
it's
a
well
done
using
a
piece
of
anyone.
Who's
been
to
pleasure,
pier
I'm,
not
but
I've,
seen
pictures
of
it,
but
it
is
an
attraction
that
draws
very
well
and
the
meeting
space
to
me.
U
The
meeting
space
for
this
area
and
I
don't
care
if
it's
in
front
of
boat
of
lodge
or
hard
rock
or
wherever
I
hope
their
hotels
fall
every
night.
So
I
get
to
raise
my
daughter
low
in
my
hotel
late
for
you
guys,
I
have
lower
rates,
but
that's
great
that
we're
fit
that
we
could
fill
up.
But
to
me
one
of
the
most
important
things
we
can
look
at
in
that
area
or
I
know:
I'll
talk
with
tilman
about
private
partnership.
There's,
like
you
know,
he's
willing
to
be
participant
as
a
developer.
U
G
C
C
D
V
A
B
C
B
B
O
B
Put
the
top
for
us
already
so
I
I,
don't
want
to
say
the
same
thing
that
everybody's
already
said,
but
Chet
kind
of
nailed
it.
You
know
we
need
a
film
during
the
week.
Convention
Center
is
definitely
something
that's
going
to
bring
that
that
new
demographic
into
the
downtown
area,
that's
going
to
bring
the
people
that
want
to
get
out
walk
around,
be
close
enough
to
be
able
to
walk
around.
B
You
know,
with
with
what
we're
trying
to
to
expand
right
now
is
gonna
bring
in
more
with
the
family
market
to
the
point,
and
you
know
they
need
to
other
things
that
do
as
well.
So
you
know
I
grew
up
on
the
water.
We
all
grew
up
on
the
water,
that's
something
that
we've
all
done
and
I.
Don't
think
anybody
really
doesn't
anymore,
so
I
think
bringing
anything
that
helps
us,
bring
our
families
back
out
and
have
an
experience
other
than
a
quarter.
Unquote,
retail
experience
where
I'm
paying
to
go,
do
something
with
everybody.
B
You
know
it
betters
the
community
as
a
whole,
but
anything
that
we
can
do
that,
like
he
said,
was
Commission's.
We
we
get
phone
calls
all
the
time
all
these
RFPs,
the
people
that
want
to
bring
in
their
groups
and
we
lose
out
because
we're
not
close
enough
to
where
they
want
to
be.
So
it's
it's
something
that
we
really
need
to
look
at.
O
P
The
just
telling
the
chat
was
saying
in
the
conventional
world.
All
over
one
factor
is
so
important
as
walkability
meeting
planners
Association
executive
if
they
are
taking
their
business
to
downtown
so
that
they
can
walk
from
the
hotel,
maybe
two
or
three
blocks
to
the
Convention
Center
the
money
they
want
to
spend
in
transportation.
P
So
that's
a
question
for
us
as
a
destination
and
that
sure
is
the
same
having
the
critical
mass
of
rooms
here.
It's
something
that
we
should
pay
a
close
attention
to
this.
It
is
very
important
and
they
convention
business
to
the
target
that
we
have
associations
some
corporations.
Some
other
groups
will
be
a
perfect
fit
for
the
Sunday
to
Thursday
type
of
pattern
that
we
could.
We
could
bring
them
here.
So
that's
food
for
thought
that
we
should
be
considering
nothing.
A
Just
just
wait
for
me:
I
got
a
family
I.
Don't
want
you
to
kind
of
comment
on
it.
You
know
our
our
neighbors,
our
neighboring
states,
Florida,
Tennessee,
Alabama,
Louisiana
and
others
outspend
us
in
marketing.
We
don't
have
the
marketing
dollars
that
are
generated
to
to
compete
with
them
on
our
message
that
we're
trying
to
send
out
there
and
I'm
going
to
throw
this
out
there.
We
do
not
have
a
restaurant
tax
talked
about
it
for
decades.
I've
been
in
this
business
for
thirty
years
plus
and
we've.
A
You
know
tax
on
restaurants,
not
your
grocery
stores,
I'm
talking
about
restaurants
with
that
is
that
a
source
or
is
that
something
you
would
be
an
advocate
of
or
or
do
you
have
any
other
thoughts
and
ideas
on
how
we
can
increase
our
marketing
dollars
to
get
the
message
out
so
that
we
can
attract
more
visitors
to
the
Mississippi
Gulf
Coast?
Well,.
P
The
fact
of
the
matter,
Kenny
is
that
if
you
take
a
look
to
the
actual
net
dollars
that
some
of
our
key
competitors
are
putting
in
the
market
we're
way
below
them,
that's
that's
a
fact,
and
you
know,
in
order
to
increase
the
visibility
of
the
destination
to
all
of
us,
it's
important
to
increase
that
revenue.
That's
a
possibility.
There
are
some
other
models
available
in
the
states
like
a
tourism,
Improvement,
District,
T
IDs,
there
are
a
specific
private
or
private
funds
that
are
created
between
the
organization
and
certain
members
of
our
region.
P
So,
yes,
the
to
answer
the
question.
Yes,
that
will
be
phenomenal
to
happen
and
where
specific
focus
and
goals
to
invest
that
money
and
have
a
return
on
investment
that
will
generate
more
visitors,
more
tax,
it's
gonna
pay
back
with
the
money
that
is
gonna,
come
to
the
government
and
local
governments
and
I.
Think
that's
something
we
should
pay
attention
to
as
well.
I.
A
O
O
W
Thank
you
Vince
and
mr.
mayor
city
of
Biloxi.
Thank
you
for
the
invitation.
I
just
want
to
make
two
points
before
I
leave
number
one
connectivity
that's
been
mentioned
several
times.
That
is
a
key.
You
know
we
don't
have
the
population
density
that
some
of
these
other
cities
have.
So
we
got
three
hundred
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
population
in
South
Mississippi,
so
you
must
have
connectivity
number
two
and
lastly,
mayor
bless.
He
was
absolutely
correct.
A
large
component
for
the
BP
projects
will
be
the
private
public
relationships,
so
that
cannot
be
stressed
enough.
W
I.
Think,
mr.
mayor,
you
should
be
applauded
for
having
this
meeting
it's.
It's
been
very
good.
A
lot
of
good
ideas.
I
represent
Ocean
Springs,
so
anything
that
I
can
do
to
help
I'm
here
and
we're
talking
about
connectivity,
the
bridge
between
Ocean,
Springs
and
Biloxi.
Like
the
mayor
mentioned,
you
have
a
hundred
people
approximately
per
day
that
walked
that
bridge.
So
thank
you
for
having
me.
N
Council
president
know-
and
thank
you-
everyone
neighbors
in
this
room
is
interested
in
what's
going
on
here
on
the
point
I
come
to
this,
not
only
as
a
legislator
representing
Biloxi
in
the
honor
of
representing
Biloxi,
but
also
as
a
private
developer.
He
has
has
some
experience
in
developing
larger
projects
like
this.
N
Exactly
what
we're
talking
about
are
we're
talking
about,
obviously,
the
new
air
that
is
south
of
the
existing
bulkhead.
Then
we've
got
the
south
side
of
highway
90,
which
is
the
green
space
area
that
we
see
now
it's
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
goal,
another
property,
and
then
that
is
the
area
on
the
north
side
of
highway.
N
90
that
we're
going
to
include
in
this
in
this
scope
of
work
and
I
think
that
once
we
do
that,
then
we
can
really
kind
of
start
laying
down
what
are
the
constraints
that
we
have
to
go,
that
we
have
to
look
at
for
a
development
of
this
type
and
that's
going
to
be
your
existing
development.
That's
to
the
rest.
They
obviously
did
the
limitations
that
that
the
weather
will
provide
to
the
east
and
highway
90
house
to
the
north
for
the
traffic
flow.
It
will
also
have
environmental
concerns
that
will
happen.
N
As
soon
as
we
move
forward
with
the
types
of
development
in
the
intensity
of
use
that
we'll
have
in
there
and
then
traffic
for
whether
that's
pedestrian
or
by
automobile,
is
going
to
be
critical
for
the
types
of
development
that
we're
going
to
want
to
see
them.
We
also
that
also
feeds
into
the
hazard
mitigation
and
resiliency.
That's
been
discussed,
and
you
know
for
and
how
about
a
constraint.
N
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
talk
about
here
today
is
that
projects
the
character
of
Biloxi
in
the
most
appropriate
way.
That's
going
to
be
the
types
of
uses
that
we
want
as
a
part
of
the
scope
of
work,
whether
it's
going
to
until
an
open-air
greenspace
area,
the
intensity
of
development,
the
density
of
the
use
of
residential
versus
commercial
food
service
and
massage,
and
then
the
thing
probably
the
most
important
for
me
in
my
role
as
a
as
a
legislator,
is
understanding
the
structure
of
development.
How
will
this
be?
N
N
C
O
X
On
behalf
of
the
secretary
first,
thank
you
for
the
invitation
to
come
down
and
witness,
and
what
was
going
on
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
with
Delbert
and
telling
him
what
was
presented
here
today
and
how
the
how
this
workshop
has
shown
or
presented
ideas
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
use
this
jointly
held
state
and
city
property.
Thank
you.
E
D
E
B
C
Future
holds
but
some
of
the
chances
we'll
took
together
to
the
city
and
the
county.
We
built
a
a
1.6
million
now
the
boardwalk
behind
restaurant
row
without
a
no
purpose
over
and
they'll
gut,
feel
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do
now.
The
next
step
I
got
for
Dominion.
That
will
take
it
to
the
rest
towards
the
Fanta
Bay
and
possibly
a
boat
launch
capacity.
You
know
launch
facility
there,
but
just
in
the
back
of
my
mind
right
there,
the.
D
C
F
Come
down
and
take
a
walk
on
the
West
Biloxi
boardwalk
phase,
one
has
now
been
open.
The
construction
is
all
complete.
The
county
is
now
getting
ready
to
take
over
with
it.
We
establishing
what
Mother
Nature
took
away
innate
and
trying
to
get
all
of
the
growth
back,
so
we
can
have
a
ribbon-cutting
and
a
grand
opening
for
it,
but
come
down
and
tank
it.