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From YouTube: City Council Meeting Feb 11 2020
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Biloxi City Council held a regular scheduled meeting on Tuesday, Feb. 11, 2020 at 1:30 p.m. at Biloxi City Hall. To see the agenda and supporting documents, visit https://www.biloxi.ms.us/agendas/citycouncil/2020/021120/021120agenda.pdf.
A
C
Annual
contest,
my
mother
Ruth
hunt
loved
kids,
this
every
time
I
come
here.
This
is
the
22nd
one
we've
done
around,
but
she
loved
sure
things
want
them
to
have
an
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
wrong
and
not
just
catch
beef,
but
be
a
part
of
it.
So
she
went
into
the
schools
to
make
a
shoebox
floats
and
also
March
me
pray,
do
children's
parking,
brake
assist
and.
C
C
With
parents,
but
on
this
for
over
a
week
and
they
will
be
honored
with
King
cake
and
punch
or
eliminate
I-
think
that's
the
thoughts
you
have
to
drink
before
I
don't
know,
winners
do
recognize
some
very
important
people
that
have
helped
make
this
happen
and
she
is
present.
The
Biloxi
Bay,
Area,
Chamber
and,
of
course,
Tina
standing
right
next
to
her
she's,
the
executive
director
of
the
Black
Sea
area
bag
chamber
and
then
mr.
D
E
C
Can
you
hold
your
hand
up?
They?
Oh
he's
our
captain
of
the
Gulf
Coast
carnival
Association
and
mr.
Kitty
Hawk
is
back
there
to
come.
Han
yep,
he's
chairman
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
Gulf
Coast
carnival
Association
and
then
where's
myth,
Andy,
Andy,
oscillate
right
over
there
she's
the
president
of
the
coastal
Mississippi
Mardi
Gras
Museum,
and
we
appreciate
them
supporting
this
event.
C
The
children
in
grades,
four
five
and
six
in
the
Biloxi
school
Nativity
and
her
life
were
extended,
an
invitation
to
participate,
and
then
we
had
at
each
school
art
teachers
or
teachers
that
were
responsible
for
making
sure
that
we
know
so.
Those
teachers
were
thank
you,
Miss
bavette,
mr.
Nick
Dominion
miss
hoksina
she's.
Here
right
back
there
thanks,
miss
Hoxie,
miss
Kwas,
miss
slosher,
miss
Talley,
miss
Lyons
and
miss
Kavanagh,
so
I
appreciate
all
the
help
that
they
did
at
the
individual
schools.
Each
overall
first-place
winner
and
honorable
mention
float
contest.
C
Winners
will
receive
today
a
cash
award
money
which
they
can't
wait
to
wait
it
certificate
here,
then
they
will
get.
This
is
a
set
of
Mardi
Gras
to
2020
Mardi,
Gras
doubloons
and
miss
austell.
'it
will
hand
out
pretty
fancy:
Mardi
Gras
beads,
one
from
the
Gulf
Coast
corner
Association,
and
one
from
the
Mardi
Gras
Museum,
Mississippi,
coastal,
music
and
and
at
the
end,
because
we
know
your
wonderful
children
want
to
give
you
these
things
and
you
hold
I'm
weaving
on
my
back.
C
So
they
can
put
these
in
the
back
and
be
able
to
go
home
with
all
their
stuff.
That
was
Miss
hunts
idea.
The
commission
parts
are
first-place
$40,
an
honorable
mention
10.
They
also
have
an
opportunity
to
participate.
This
Saturday
the
5th
at
the
children's
marching
parade,
and
we
are
good
ride,
firetruck,
so
hopefully
parents
you
brought
those
forms.
C
C
D
D
C
H
H
D
C
A
I
I
Go
back
to
a
report
from
last
week
on
that
resolution
we
passed
see
when
I
got
the
new
report
from
the
council:
half
the
half.
It
was
squid
scratched
out
Sally.
We
did
the
right
thing
laughs.
We
would
see
anyway
went
around
and
make
a
note
that
I
would
tell
Lucy
I'm
a
vote
no
on
see
from
last
week.
That's
that
short
turnaround
where
you
thought
taking
hotel
rooms
and
put
them
in
condominiums
and
put
them
into
apartments
right.
I
First
of
all,
I
hope.
The
motel
association
that
collects
7%
goes
to
the
state.
The
eclectic
5%
goes
to
Houston
County
Tourism
and
to
pay
two
debt
on
a
Coliseum.
So
we're
gonna
return
all
the
apartments
in
a
motel.
Then
they
need
to
follow
the
same
laws
and
I
machspeed.
If
it's
legal
to
send
tax
cities
and
state
tax
money
to
somebody
in
New
York
on
a
BMP
yeah,
is
that
actually
legal,
then
we
can
take
our
tax
money
and
send
it
to
somebody.
You
know
you
never
know.
I
J
B
J
I
That's
yourself,
the
counting
that
pay
out
a
note
when
they
read
down
to
Coliseum,
which
is
you
know
that
money,
2.5
percent,
so
my
tech
goes
directly
to
pay
that
note
down,
and
you
know
you
get
that
money
back
from
the
state,
because
they're
constantly
dropping
the
the
bill
that
we
owe
at
the
Coliseum
something
I
think
we
should
do
the
same.
There
wasn't
some
cent
sales
tax
I,
don't
think
that
might
should
ever
leave
the
state
of
Mississippi
to
me
so
I
mean
that's.
That's
the
problem.
I
B
J
J
I
J
I
I
A
few
years
ago,
state
for
the
beating
up
a
B&B
and
what
they
do
they
send
of
a
million
dollar
check
everything
else.
Everybody
was
quiet,
so
you
don't
never
know
how
much
money
a
B&B
owes
the
state
of
Mississippi
could
be
through.
For
me,
you
know
Oh
things
you
got
to
pay
attention
to.
Okay.
Thank
you.
H
B
H
Terms
of
from
what
industries
this
you
know
comprise
this
lump
sum
that
we
get
I
think
there's
a
push,
perhaps
in
other
states
for
air
B&B
those
online
companies
that
that
rent,
these
short-term
rentals
to
be
more
transparent
on
their
fees,
so
that,
if
you
book
through
them
here
are
all
the
fees
that
you're
paying
because
I
don't
think
air,
B&B
and
I
think
VRBO,
I,
I,
believe
they're.
Also
under
that
air
B&B
umbrella.
H
There
are
only
really
a
couple
of
big
players
in
the
market
now
I
think,
but
if
there's
more
transparencies
on
the
fees
that
they're
charging,
that
would
give
us
at
least
some
figure
to
check
with
the
state
to
see
if,
if
they're
sending
us
to
or
at
least
to
the
state,
what
they
should
be
I
mean.
Mr.
Lawrence
makes
a
good
point,
but
miss
laws.
It's
not
in
Bitcoin
in
good
shape,
but
well.
B
Let
me
let
me
respond
in,
and
not
just
our
B&B
for
anything
that
one
check
we're
yeah.
We
need
to
be
able
to
reconcile
the
way
it
happens
in
the
state
of
Mississippi.
Now
you
can
file
it
by
paper,
if
your
quarterly
every
three
months,
your
report,
usually
so
gross
tax
and
then
what
is
subject
to
gross
tax
minus
the
deductions
that
you
make
so
if
it's
a
hotel
motel.
So
what
is
the
gross
revenue
for
sales
that
are
subject
to
sales
tax?
Then
you
do
the
arithmetic
in
a
timely
reporting.
B
So
now
you
send
a
check
along
with
with
your
phone,
if
you're
not
reporting
quarterly,
you
want
your
report
monthly,
using
the
t
AP,
the
tax
access
point
application.
What
you
do
this
in
an
automated
fashion,
cut
the
check
right
then,
and
there
doing
the
so
that's
the
thing
that's
easily
reported,
if
you
have
to
somebody,
has
to
become
you
know
a
tap-in
tree
once
a
month
and
hopefully
not
just
you,
know
short-term
rail,
but
everybody.
B
Well,
we
don't
have
a
reconciliation,
we're
asking
the
state
tax,
commission
and
the
DIA
or
because
that's
the
folks
that
we
have
to
have
some.
You
know
some
relationship
with
that.
We
need
to
be
able
to
reconcile
that
jacket,
but
also
it
lets.
You
know
where
the
business
worth
my
SiC
code
about.
You
know,
industry
right.
B
It's
just
everybody,
you
know
everybody!
That's
in
business
in
the
state
of
Mississippi
key
by
private
by
privilege.
License
here
in
Biloxi
needs
to.
They
will
have
a
tap
account
and
they
will
report
it.
You
have
no
choice,
you
do
it
one
way
or
quarterly.
If
you,
if
your
business
is
not
enough,
you
do
it
my
paper
and
you
actually
use
the
tap
to
do
that.
To.
L
We
issue
a
privilege
license
in
our
department.
The
state
is
notified,
that's
our
notification
to
them
that
you
should
anticipate
tax
revenues
coming
in
from
this
particular
entity
and
here's
the
rate
the
way
that
it's
being
used.
Also,
whenever
a
license
is
issued,
we
notify
the
hotel-motel
Association
to
let
them
know
as
well
that
here's
someone
else
that
is
on
the
radar
now
and.
B
They
should
be
issued
a
sales
tax
account,
that's
the
first
step,
so
when
they
apply
the
sales
tax
could
be
by
the
department
revenue,
an
estate
tax
commission,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
process
is
with.
You
know
they
may
have
been
preempted
at
the
state
level.
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that
question
we'll
find
out
and.
L
H
M
Okay,
the
problem
is
that
these
people
that
have
a
short-term
rental
in
the
city
of
Biloxi,
through
Airbnb
or
VRBO,
are
not
paying
into
tap
VRBO
and
Airbnb
are
the
ones
that
collect
these
taxes.
They
fall
under
Nexus
laws,
because
if
you
have,
if
you're
a
national
company-
and
you
have
a
certain
amount
of
representatives
in
a
state,
you
fall
under
Nexus
laws.
M
B
M
Air
B&B
and
VRBO
have
in
place
when
they
pay,
which
they're
a
large
company
they're
paying
their
sales
tax
just,
but
is
there
a
mechanism
to
break
it
down
to
decipher
where
those
taxes
originated
from
that
they
collected
or
are
they
just
makin
one
big
payment?
Every
month
to
Mississippi
we
collected
this
much
sales
tax
and
boom.
It
goes
to
the
state
and
the
state
has
no
idea
where
this
money
came
from,
and
how
does
this
person
know.
B
B
M
The
problem
that
we
have
is
on
the
state
level
between
the
company
and
the
state,
I,
don't
believe,
there's
a
mechanism
in
place
to
decipher
where
those
taxes
originated
from.
So
at
the
end
of
the
month.
Let's
just
say:
Mississippi
collects
a
million
dollars
in
tax
from
BRB,
oh
and
Airbnb.
They
have
no
idea
how
to
disperse
that.
Well,.
B
L
M
L
Don't
have
the
ability
to
see
whether
or
not
Airbnb
or
VRBO
paid
the
taxes
for
those
people.
We
put
the
burden
where
we
could
within
the
ordinance
that
every
year,
when
they
renew
its
you're
as
the
operator,
it's
your
responsibility
to
bring
us
proof
that
your
taxes
were
paid
or
we
won't
renew
your
license.
M
B
We
just
like
that
is
the
case
and
I.
Don't
know
that
that
is
when
there's
no
way
to
this
should
be
a
way
if
there's
no
way,
there
needs
to
be
a
way
so
we'll
push
our
legislature
and
in
whatever
we
can
through
the
state,
tax,
commission
and
Department
of
Revenue
who's
holding.
You
know
we'll
see
if
we
can
not.
M
Have-
and
we
need
to
do
that-
I
have
my
own
business
and
there's
about
seven
or
eight
states
that
I
have
to
collect
tax
for
at
the
end
of
the
month.
When
we
pay
out,
we
don't
do
anything,
but
we
make
an
online
payment
for
a
certain
amount
to
that
state.
Tax.
Commission-
and
we
don't
say
it
came
from
this
county
or
this
city
or
anything
like
that.
B
M
Don't
know
I'm
just
or
maybe
they're
just
guessing
hey,
you
know,
Biloxi
has
a
lot.
We're
gonna
send
them
this
much
but
I
mean
I.
Have
a
business
and
I,
don't
pay
I,
don't
say
where
it
originated
in
the
state
and
so
they're
not
getting
their
return.
It
returned
to
the
right
places
because
they
have
no
idea.
J
A
J
Couldn't
how
could
they
decipher
the
hotel
tax,
the
individual
owner,
who's,
renting
their
property?
You
would
think
they're
gonna
have
an
account
showing
this
much
money
came
out
of
my
payments
for
taxes,
so
maybe
we
can
try
to
get
some
information
from
the
owners,
but
now
whether
we're
collecting
it
is
a
great
point.
Look
into
that.
Okay,.
B
N
N
G
Me
throw
another
wrinkle
into
this.
The
Airbnb
is
the
OTAs.
Whatever
you
want
to
call
them.
They
also
do
a
couple
of
things:
they
have
guest
pay
programs
and
they
have
hotel,
collect
programs
and
the
guests
pay
program
pays
them
and
they
send
the
hotel
a
virtual
credit
card
for
the
amount
that
they're
charging
the
hotel,
not
the
guest.
G
B
K
E
A
N
A
Quick
mr.
Jericho,
a
new
epidemic
from
what
I've
heard
is
a
realtor,
had
posted
photos
of
her
clients
home
and
someone
stole
the
pictures
and
posted
them
on
Airbnb.
And
we
are
put
it
bringing
them
to
court
because
they're
not
registered
to
be
short-term,
rentals
and
they're.
Saying
that,
even
with
the
situation
as
it
is,
we're
still
taking
them
to
court.
But
can't
they
just
file
a
police
report
or.
O
Is
there
just
wanted
to
mainly
ask
about
the
progress
on
Magnolia
Street
I,
see
that
they're
doing
a
lot
of
paving,
which
is
good
so
we're
starting
to
get
a
little
progress.
Going
also
know
about
the
the
letter
that
we
received
already
so
I
want
to
talk
to
you,
you
and
the
mayor
offline
about
that
letter
that
we
received
from
RC,
but
is
there
any
progress
with
essentially
some
pictures
of
Magnolia
Street
with
those
divots
on
the
side
and
resident
seven
a
hard
time
getting
in
in
in
and
out
their
driveway?
O
And
the
other
thing
like
I
said:
I'll
talk
to
you
in
a
mere
offline
about
some
of
the
others
from
that
letter
about
getting
some
of
the
other
things
corrected
and
I
guess.
The
only
other
thing
is
that
report
that
I
asked
for
about
the
the
inspections,
the
camera
inspections,
how
much
is
done
and
how
much
is
not
done.
So
if
you
can
get
that
to
me,
I
appreciate
it.
P
A
N
N
H
H
This
will
be
the
first
of
2020,
the
other
thing,
Madam
President
and
I'd
like
to
request
that
the
we
had
a
workshop
last
Tuesday
on
personnel
ordinances
regarding
I,
guess,
compensation
or
benefits,
and
really
we
were
bringing
the
language
up
to
date
had
been
a
while,
since
some
of
that
was
revised,
I'd
request
that
we
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
our
next
council
meeting
next
Tuesday
and
hopefully
the
council
will
take
that
up
and
we
can
move
forward
on
that.
Thank
you.
That
concludes
my.
N
I'm,
sorry,
mrs.
Bell,
it's
not
sorry
the
the
bathrooms
of
the
Pops
fairy
park
across
from
Margaret,
sherry
library,
I,
think
we
were
opening
during
the
day
and
closing
him
at
night.
Yeah.
Is
there
any
way
we
can
get
back
to
that?
We
do
have
a
lot
of
groups
that
are
out
there
and
I
was
one
of
them
on
this
Sunday
and
they
were
locked
up
closed.
So
if,
if
we
could
make
sure
that
we
can
open
those
in
the
morning.
G
Thank
you.
You
know
it's
great
to
see
carnival
season
in
the
you
know
the
kids
get
recognized
earlier
today
and
we
got
a
big
weekend
coming
up.
We
have
second
liners
parade
along
with
the
Neptune
night
parade
and
that's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
fun.
Actually
it's
two
weeks
from
now
I.
Think
two
weeks
is
the
parade,
but
they're
also
Rice
University,
and
just
tell
you
the
power
of
Conference
USA,
so
Conference
USA
played
at
MGM
Park
with
us
em
in
the
baseball
tournament.
G
Rice
baseball
team
was
one
of
the
participating
teams,
but
we
also
had
the
head
football
coach
from
Rice
they're
supporting
Rice
University.
He
contacted
the
Tourism
Bureau
a
couple
of
days
ago
and
has
great
interest
and
coming
down
here.
They
play
a
game.
I
think
it's
October
30th
in
Hattiesburg,
but
they're
gonna
come
visit.
The
coast
bring
the
entire
team
and
staff
practice
on
the
coast
and
then
go
play
southern
that
Saturday
in
Hattiesburg,
but
it
just
goes
to
show
you.
G
You
know
how,
if
you
take
care
of
people,
other
people
hear
about
it
and
they
want
to
come.
Come
visit
us
as
well
with
that
I
also
want
to
recognize
and
gentleman
that's
here.
It's
the
director
or
tournament
director
for
the
Rapiscan
golf
tournament,
Steve
shot
mer.
If
he
wants
to
address
the
council
and
talk
about
a
few
things
about
the
tournament
this
year,.
P
G
A
M
Got
to
figure
out
how
to
operate
this
thing.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
I
want
to
give
a
shout-out
to
my
costly
and
his
team
with
Public
Works
had
several
things
come
up
in
the
last
week
or
so
and
they've
gotten
right
on
it
and
got
the
job
done.
They
always
do
a
great
job
and
then
I
planned
on
having
a
award
meeting
in
March,
but
the
I
don't
think
that
the
community
center
will
be
ready
by
then
so
I'm
gonna
hold
that
off
until
we
get
that
finished.
M
Actually
another
thing
is
I
went
out
there
yesterday
and
I
walk
through
it's
looking
really
good.
They
got
the
the
frame
for
the
stage
and
I
think
the
dressing
rooms
too
off
to
each
side
up
and
they've
got
the
the
framing
up
for
the
courtyard
the
building's
closed
in
and
they're
about
to
take
take
the
wall
separating
the
the
old
structure
and
the
new
structure
down.
So
that's
coming
along
really
nicely.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
great
asset
for
the
community.
That's
all
I
have
right
now:
okay,.
A
Move
on
to
public
agenda,
where
we
have
citizen
comments,
we
have
a
total
time
allotted
of
45
minutes.
Each
citizen
gets
three
minutes
each
to
speak
when
you
reach
the
desk,
please
sign
your
name
and
address
as
well
as
stated
out
loud
for
the
record.
Anyone
on
my
left,
your
right
that
would
like
to
come
up
and
speak.
Q
M
R
E
R
R
F
S
M
S
S
S
S
D
S
Project
they're
not
making
profit
from
this
to
take
place
away
from
you're
gonna
have
two
story:
houses
in
their
backyards.
Very
small
backyards
I
predict
their
total
privacy.
This
is
a
big
project.
It's
good
to
make
Patricia
a
lot
of
money
in
a
few
little
concessions
to
be
a
good
neighbor
is
hardly
too
much
to
ask
for
I
mean
we
all
know
this
isn't
gonna.
Stop.
We've
got
news.
The
idea
we're
going
to
have
major
congestion.
E
S
Now
back
to
sale,
the
drive
with
certain
parts
of
the
day-
and
it's
only
gonna
add
all
that,
and
on
top
of
it,
let's
throw
the
cars
on
sale
or
Drive.
Let's
take
away
the
privacy
at
the
people
that
there,
so
somebody
can
make
a
few
extra
dollars
I'm
all
for
somebody
isn't
their
property
the
way
they
choose
to,
but
when
it
interferes
on
other
people's
property,
that's
not
right
and
I
hope.
This
council
takes
the
correct
actions
on
this.
For
all
the
people.
All
the
citizens
don't
be.
S
F
F
So
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
speeding,
that's
been
happening
on
our
Road
me
and
my
family
moved
in
there
less
than
a
year
ago,
we're
military
members-
and
it's
it's
been
scary.
I
didn't
realize
that
it
was
an
issue
when
we
bought
our
home
and
honestly.
If
I
had
known
how
dangerous
that
road
is
I
would
not,
we
would
not
have
purchased
the
home.
When
we
visited,
we
saw
a
few
garbage
men,
you
know
drive
by
they
weren't
speeding.
It
was
fine.
Since
then
I've
noticed
a
lot
of
speeding.
F
We
don't
have
sidewalks,
it's
scary
to
back
out
of
our
driveway,
but
friends
won't
visit
us
because
they
can't
back
out
of
our
driveway.
Our
mailbox
was
hit
about
two
weeks
ago
by
a
speeding
dump
truck
that
went
up
onto
our
grass
and
hit
our
mailbox
I,
don't
feel
safe.
Checking
my
mail
I.
Definitely
don't
let
my
children
out
of
my
sight
when
we
go
to
check
the
mail
or
we
go
out
to
the
van
it's
it's
not
safe,
I,
don't
know
what
can
be
done.
F
Maybe
speed
bumps
or
more
police
patrolling
the
area,
but
it's
something
really
has
to
be
done
before
someone
else
loses
their
life.
There
was
a
motorcycle
accident
around
the
corner
from
my
home,
a
man
died
there
and
then
just
right
after
my
mailbox
was
hit.
Two
weeks
ago,
another
car
ran
into
a
neighbor's
yard,
just
a
few
doors
down
from
me.
It's
very
scary,
and
one
of
these
days
the
car
is
going
to
hit
a
child
or
run
into
one
of
our
homes.
F
A
H
The
only
way
for
mr.
creel,
the
the
only
question
I
have
I
know
there
are
three
curb
cuts
on
on
Beach
Boulevard.
Therefore,
this
property.
This
is
these
properties
that
will
be
an
RV
park
and
the
six
parcels
along
Brady
I've
were
originally
requested
to
be
resumed
with
the
Planning
Commission
reduced
that
just
to
one
of
those
Lots
right
behind
the
gas
station.
Yes,
sir
and
I
know
with
the
the
fire
department
needing
more
than
one
way
in
and
out,
and
if
you
would
explain
under
these
circumstances
why
they
need
that
ingress
egress
to
Brady.
H
L
The
short
version
is
is
that
the
fire
code
requires
an
alternate
access
into
a
piece
of
property
in
the
event
that
there's
a
wreck
or
a
problem
on
Beach
Boulevard,
they
would
have
to
have
a
secondary
emergency
access
to
get
into
the
property.
So
originally
the
developer
had
asked
for
six
Lots
own
Brady
Drive
to
be
rezone.
To
see
me,
the
Planning
Commission
denied
the
request
on
five
of
those
Lots
and
only
approve
the
southernmost
lot
that
is
owned
by
majestic
oaks
as
the
ingress
of
ingress,
and
it
will
have
a
Knox
box
on
it.
L
H
A
K
L
A
E
L
Seiler
drive
now
when
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
was
held.
There
was
also
some
discussion
about
a
40-foot
space
between
sailor
estates,
but
in
between
dr.
burr
to
seize
property
at
the
time
we
and
what
that
included
was
a
15-foot
easement
right
along
the
sailor
estates,
property
lines
and
then
a
25-foot
access
easement
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
get
back
into
the
lift
station.
There's
a
sewer
lift
station
back
in
there
that
we
have
to
maintain
access
to
well
after
we
did
some
additional
research.
L
After
that
meeting,
we
found
out
the
15-foot
green
space
is
already
in
the
backyards
of
the
neighbors
that
live
the
Sailor
estate
side,
so
they
already
have
that
15-foot
green
space
there,
the
25-foot,
is
still
there,
but
is
now
there
fences
this
on
the
west
side
and
what
mr.
steiffel
has
agreed
to
do.
There
are
some
trees
that
run
along
that
fence
line
behind
the
Sailor
estates.
L
L
M
L
The
15-foot
easement
there
are
two
easements
there,
115-foot
125-foot
the
15-foot
at
the
time.
We
did
not
know
if
that
15
foot
was
on
the
outside
of
the
Sailor
residents
fence
or
on
the
inside,
and
after
doing
some
additional
digging
we
found
out,
they
already
have
that
15
foot
easement
in
their
backyard.
So.
L
L
L
Would
either
be
right
up
against
their
fences
if
they
wanted
the
they're
sick?
Most
of
the
fences
on
the
back
of
the
Sailor
six
foot,
but
the
agreement
was
is
that
the
developer
would
provide
an
8
foot
fence,
whether
it's
right
up
against
their
fences
if
they
want
those
to
be
8
foot
or
over
on
the
other
side
of
the
25
foot?
Now
you
might
want
to
hear
that
from
Dennis.
L
M
E
U
Everything
that
was
true
I
might
be
able
to
clarify
just
a
little
bit.
The
the
there
were
four
main
issue
that
the
owner
agreed
as
a
result
of
a
number
of
public
hearings
award
meetings.
One
was
the
the
40-foot
of
green
space
between
two
was
the
eighth
three
was
the
knocks
boxed
on
a
bill
to
prevent
traffic
construction
traffic
and
residential
traffic.
Okay,
mr.
patootie
does
not
have
any
with
pedestrian
traffic,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
make
that
when
we
make
the
connection
with
the
road,
we
can
also
connect.
U
The
sidewalks
and
folks
can
walk
from
subdivision
to
subdivision
that
we
don't
see
a
problem
with
that.
As
far
as
opening
the
street
in
the
future,
that's
not
a
call
for
dr.
burr
to
see
or
or
me
per
se
it'll
be
a
dedicated
city
street.
The
city
would
have
authority
as
to
whether
or
not
to
open
that
street
in
the
future
if
they
decided
to
that's
their
prerogative.
The
last
item
that
was
left
off
that
that
was
neglected,
be
mentioned,
was
that
dr.
U
U
Moving
PC
is
working
with
the
city
and
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
stages
of
the
design
phase,
but
we've
already
had
initial
meetings
with
G
RPC
in
the
city
and
that
process
I
believe,
is
moving
forward.
We
are
still
months
away
this
year,
getting
all
of
our
permits
and
approvals
for
this
project.
So
we're
not
a
big
hurry
for
that.
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
city's
pace
is
as
far
as
upgrade
Acton
Road
traffic
there.
S
U
The
foot
would
fence
would
actually
go
on
the
property
line
between
the
two
subdivisions.
There's
a
15-foot
easement
training
on
the
side,
which
is
in
the
Saylor
Estates
backyards
that
would
be
untouched
and
remain
the
same.
There
are
some
old
wood
fences,
some
of
them
are
60
tall
or
less.
The
a
new
8
foot
would
go
essentially
next
to
adjacent
to
the
existing
fences
on
the
west
side
of
that
property
line
where
the
8-foot
fence
would
go
and,
of
course,
there's
a
number
of
fairly
large
ornamental
trees
that
are
on
the
property
line.
U
So
we
can,
we
don't
have
a
problem.
It
doesn't
do
us
any
good
to
cut
these
trees
down
it.
Would
it
would
be,
as
probably
the
best
thing
for
all
the
neighbors,
both
sides
of
the
property
line
to
leave
as
many
trees
up
there
you
can
what
the
utility
is
already
in
the
city
normally
do
their
normal
practice
is
to
keep
these
drainage
and
utility
easements,
clear
and
clean
of
trees,
and
the
reason
for
that
is.
U
The
root
systems
will
grow
down
and
damage
the
pipes,
the
culverts
underneath
and
then
you
have
a
big
expensive
project.
We
work
all
the
drainage
culverts
or
the
utilities
water
sewer,
and
so
these
easements
are
normally
kept
clear
of
the.
In
other
words,
they
can't
be
wooded
and
just
left
like
a
thick
growth
of
trees,
because
they're
they'll
go
down
here
with
the
culverts
underneath
the
ground.
E
L
Denis
to
generating
the
infrastructure
plans
for
phase
one,
so
we
have
to
have
council
approval,
or
this
can't
move
forward
now
with
concerning
your
question
where
we
are
study
the
council
at
the
last
meeting
of
the
activation
for
gulf
region
or
to
move
forward
studying
this
intersection
mm-hmm
and
that's
what
they're
doing
they're
moving
forward
with
it.
I.
A
L
A
H
H
E
H
So
this
is,
this:
is
a
sailor
place.
Here's
my
home
and
I'm
looking
west
onto
the
petit
proposed
for
to
see
development
and
here's
my
backyard
fence
and
that
15-foot
easement
is
in
my
backyard.
That's
bridge!
That's
that's
15
feet!
So
I'm
assuming
my
house,
the
closest
it
can
be
is
what
15
and
a
half
feet
yeah.
L
H
Now
you've
got
this
25-foot
easement
right
here,
which
means
I'm
gonna,
buy
a
house
that
I
like
in
the
breh
to
see
development,
and
we've
got
this
25-foot
easement
here
and
I'm,
trying
to
understand
where
the
fence
that
the
Bertuzzi
development
will
construct.
Is
it
gonna,
be
here
25
feet
from
the
other
fence,
because
my
understanding
is
that
it
is
not
well,
it
would
be
right
up
against
this.
Is
that
correct?
That's
what.
H
Dennis,
yes,
okay
and,
and
given
that
fact,
if
there's
any
sort
of
repair
or
anything
to
the
fence,
that's
required.
Well,
somebody's
gonna
figure
that
out,
we
don't
know
who
we
don't
know
how
they'll
repair
that
fence,
but
I
just
see.
That
may
be
a
point
of
contention
in
an
issue
in
future
years.
But
if
this
fence
an
8-foot
fence,
is
right
next
to
a
six-foot
fence.
That
means
this
structures
got
to
be
25
feet
over
at
least
and
then
another
25
feet,
25
feet
to.
H
H
L
L
H
Okay
most,
if
not
all,
let's
say
all
three
of
these
homeowners
say:
that's
great
I've
got
a
pet
crate
that
it's
fenced
in
this
25
foot.
Easement
now
is
for
utilities
access
access,
so
anybody
who's
fencing
goes
over.
This
easement
may
have
it
have
to
take
it
down
if
heavy
equipments
got
a
run
back
here
to
service
this
easement.
This
is
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make.
L
H
L
End
from
from
the
back
of
the
houses
facing
Saylor,
you've
got
a
25
foot
setback
in
their
rear
backyard.
Then
you've
got
the
25
foot
access
road
that
goes
to
the
lift
station.
Then
you've
got
another
25
feet
between
the
edge
of
that
easement
and
the
back
of
the
houses
that
face
Bertuzzi,
Park
houses.
So.
H
H
L
H
H
L
Would
it
was
designed
it?
The
old
way
of
designing
subdivisions
was
that
there
was
an
intent
to
have
connectivity
between
them
and
just
like
channel
mark.
We
have
some
citizens
where
there
was
a
road
that
led
up
to
the
adjacent
property,
even
though
the
adjacent
property
was
not
developed,
but
the
theory
was:
is
it
when
that
adjacent
property
developed
that
there
would
be
connectivity
between
them?
Okay,
so
because.
H
Bonneville
runs
right
here
and
we're
gonna
have
pedestrian
access
if
I
understood
correctly
right
there
at
Bonneville,
even
though
it's
gated
you'd
have
foot
traffic
permitted,
I
guess
to
walk
through
between
the
neighborhoods.
So
this
this
would
be
open,
with
the
exception
of
some
sort
of
gate
on
either
end
yes
to
restrict
access.
H
P
H
I
do
have
I
want
to
look
to
another
issue,
and
that
is
there
are
133
trees
that
will
be
removed
in
126
or
protected
trees
and
I
know
that
Peter
I
know
that
we
were
have
been
talking
about
some
sort
of
tree
bank
or
mitigation
Bank,
or
something
and
I'm
thinking.
Currently,
if
we're
removing
133
trees,
how
many
would
have
to
be
planted,
and
in
this
case
it
illustrates
the
needs
I
think
for
a
mitigation
Bank,
because
we
don't
want
to
say
you've
got
a
plan.
H
What
is
it
a
three
to
one
ratio,
so
this
developers
got
a
plant
roughly
400
trees,
whatever
somewhere?
Well,
obviously
he's
removing
them
from
his
property.
He
doesn't
want
to
put
him
somewhere
else
which
creates
other
issues,
but
I
just
wanted
you
to
take
this
opportunity
to
point
out
the
need
for
a
tree
mitigation
Bank
and
also,
if
we're
going
to
look
at
establishing
that
mitigation
Bank.
H
It
would
be
great
if
some
of
those
funds
could
be
used
for
irrigation
for
these
trees
that
are
planted
wherever
they
might
be
to
include
that,
so
that
in
the
future,
if
developers
just
want
to
write
it
check
to
cover
the
tree
mitigation
rather
than
the
plant,
this
stuff,
it's
just
a
thought.
The
the
next
thing
that
concerns
me
is
the
traffic
on
Atkinson.
Road
I
know
that
we've
we
have
a
study
that
Gulf
Coast,
Regional
Planning
is,
is
going
to
work
on
I.
L
At
this
point,
but
they
do
know
that
we're
under
some
serious
time
pressure
to
get
it
done
now
in
in
the
interim.
What's
going
to
happen
is
that
as
the
developers
are
putting
in
the
infrastructure,
they
have
agreed
to
have
a
road
that
goes
from
phase
point
directly
over
to
Popp's
Ferry
Road,
so
that
they're
not
dumping
their
traffic
out
onto
Atkins
and
the
part
of
the
construction
that's
going
to
be
going
on
is.
H
I'm,
just
looking
for
a
reasonable
time
on,
and
let
me
let
me
tell
you
why
it's
of
concern
to
me
so
we've
got
what
is
it
a
hundred
and
eleven
units
I
think
for
this
portion
of
the
development
with
more
on
the
way
a
couple
of
years
from
now
in
Phase
two,
and
this
first
phase
is
anticipated
to
take
about
how
long
mr.
steiffel
about
about
two
years.
So
my
thinking
is
just
follow
me
I'm
wondering:
when
might
we
have
the
results
of
the
traffic
study?
V
This
traffic
study
is
being
funded
by
MDOT
through
GRP
CG
RPC
is
not
doing
the
traffic
study
city
of
Biloxi
is
doing
the
traffic
study.
We
are
in
the
process
of
getting
all
the
in
approvals
in
place
right
just
last
week
know
maybe
about
two
weeks
ago
we
you
passed
a
resolution
for
project
activation.
Remember
that
we
had
a
discussion
about.
E
V
Activation-
that
was
what
this
was
for
for
MDOT
to
activate
this
funding
for
this
traffic
study.
So
I've
submitted
that
resolution
to
them
asking
them
to
activate
this
project.
They
have
to
submit
an
mou
back
to
us.
It
has
to
be
come
back
to
you
for
approval,
and
then
we
have
to
begin
a
negotiation
with
the
design,
engineering
firm
or
the
traffic
study
and
MDOT
has
to
approve
that.
So
there
are
quite
a
few
point
of
me
saying
all
this
is.
V
There
are
quite
a
few
steps
that
have
to
happen
before
we
can
even
start
the
traffic
study
and
it
has
to
go
through
the
MDOT
process
which,
as
we
know,
takes
a
little
bit
longer
than
normal,
so
we're
looking
at
probably
six
months
to
a
year
before
we
have
final
results
on
a
traffic
study,
maybe
sooner
if
we're
lucky,
studies
tend
to
go
through
the
MDOT
process
faster
than
a
construction
project,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
few
months.
Okay,.
H
V
H
Three:
four:
five:
six
months:
now:
that's
just
knocking
down
abandoned
structures
but
I'm
thinking
all
right.
Once
we
get
the
results
of
this
study,
I
would
say
it's
gonna,
say
gee.
You
need
to
widen
that
road.
Wouldn't
you
think
we
don't
know,
that's
why
we
do
the
study,
but
just
to
be
safe.
Nobody
has
to
offer
an
opinion
but
I'm
thinking,
it'll
come
back
saying
you
got
heavier
traffic
you're
gonna
need
to
widen
that
road.
H
H
We'd
have
done
this
traffic
study
two
years
ago,
but
in
fairness
to
to
the
developer
and
and
and
the
engineer,
I
don't
know
if
two
years
ago
they
planned
to
be
where
they
are
right
now,
but
that
that's
my
biggest
concern
not
to
mention
the
Popp's
Ferry
Bridge,
which
is
a
whole
nother
issue
and
how
that
impacts.
The
traffic,
although
I'm
sure
that
will
be
included
in
the
study
so
I
said,
go.
H
You
may
need
property
on
both
sides
of
that
really
and,
and
what
complicates
the
matter
is
all
the
traffic
from
the
VA
coming
through
the
Hillier
Park
and
a
shortcut
everybody
trying
to
beat
the
light
at
the
other
intersection
at
Pass
Road.
That's
what
really
makes
this
Harry
so
I
would
just
say:
I
really
like
this
project.
H
H
M
Just
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
correctly,
so
the
three
issues,
the
gate
between
the
subdivisions-
that's
taken
care
of
the
second
one,
the
eight-foot
fence.
Now,
just
so
I
understand
correctly,
an
8-foot
fence
will
run
along
the
fences
that
are
currently
in
place,
which
is
the
back
of
the
property
lines
on
Sailor.
That's
correct!
Yes,
between
that
fence,
and
if
there,
if
the
property
owner
wants,
another
fence
would
be
25-foot.
M
F
E
M
M
L
The
concern
at
the
time
when
this
went
through
the
property
from
the
property
owners
was
the
visibility
of
looking
over
their
fence
and,
seeing
you
know,
one
and
a
half
houses,
as
opposed
to
seeing
one
house
right
behind
each
lied.
So
the
developer
agreed
to
the
8
foot
fence,
an
accommodation
to
the
neighbors
and
Saylor
Drive,
okay,
but.
M
M
L
M
L
M
That's
my
only
question:
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
nothing
in
that
25
foot
area.
Then
you
add
the
15,
that's
the
40
foot
and
just
as
a
reassurance.
Most
of
mr.
stifles
developments
and
the
city
of
Biloxi
have
been
in
my
ward
and
I
have
found
him
to
be
a
man
of
his
word.
If
he
says
he's
going
to
do
something
he
does
in
developments,
problems
arise,
but
I
have
also
found
that
when
problems
do
arise,
it's
something
mr.
steiffel
addresses
those
problems
and
he
does
stick
to
his
words.
I
found.
L
L
Always
whenever
we're
considering
a
subdivision
development
and-
and
you
know
off
ones
that
we've
done
in
wool
market,
there
was
always
the
concern
from
the
neighbors
that
they're
going
to
wake
up
tomorrow
morning.
There's
some
traffic
jams
all
over
the
place,
and
you
go
there
now
and
you
look
at
these
developments
that
are
up
there
very
very
organized
very
neatly
done
subdivision
developments
that
Dennis
actually
designed
a
number
of
them,
and
you
see
no
traffic
jams
there.
L
Now
the
majority
of
the
traffic
problems
that
we
have
on
a
Kansan
Road
are
typically
early
in
the
morning
and
late
in
the
afternoon,
and
the
developers
already
agreed
to
the
accommodation
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
going
to
be
dumping.
Their
construction
traffic
out
onto
Atkinson
Road
they're,
going
to
use
a
cutlery
road
that
goes
over
to
pops
ferry
to
get
people
to
it.
L
The
only
reason
we're
talking
about
this
traffic
study
is
because
of
this
development
and
always
the
track
traffic
improvements
that
the
city's
involved
in
and
the
development
can
continue
simultaneously,
so
that
by
the
time
they
get
ready
for
construction,
which
is
probably
going
to
be
at
least
a
year
away.
Then
we'll
have
the
results
of
the
traffic
study
in
place,
but
holding
up
one
to
the
other
I'm
just
concerned.
That's
going
to
send
a
terrible
message
to
developers
in
this
town
and
we
need
to
allow
both
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
simultaneously.
If
we
can.
L
L
Again,
I
think
I
just
got
through
saying
this
I'll
say
it
again.
The
reason
for
the
eight-foot
fence
was
because
of
the
neighbors
concerns
about
visibility,
Dennis
agreed
to,
or
the
developer
agreed
to
provide
that
8-foot
fence
is
an
accommodation
to
the
neighbors
if
they
don't
want
an
8-foot
fence
against
their
fence.
I
U
And
these
are
these
are
decisions
that
were
made
by
the
developer,
not
me
and
so
I'm
kind
of
a
relay
guy,
but
the
decision
was
made
to
plot
to
provide
an
8-foot
fence
basin
to
the
existing
fence
in
the
rear
yards
of
the
Sailor
place
residence.
The
the
the
reason
you
know,
dr.
Pertwee,
see,
as
Jerry
said,
owns
the
property
all
the
way
to
their
fence.
That's
the
reason
why
the
8-foot
fence
would
go
there,
because
these
people
are
on
that
property
now,
if
they
want,
if
they
want
to
fence
their
backyard.
U
If
they
have
a
dog
or
some
reason
privacy,
then
they
have
the
right
to
do
that
and
and
if
the
city's
ordinance
says
they
can't
extend
these
dances
all
the
way
back
to
the
8-foot
fence,
then
they
would
fence
whatever
they
want
a
fence.
You
know
whatever
they
can
fence.
In
some
cases
they
may
not,
they
may
decide
not
defense
their
backyards.
If
the
fence
is
going
to
be
that
tight
there
deserve.
Is
there
a
specific
question.
I
U
U
I
U
And
frankly,
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that,
but
that
that's
not
my
call
I
mean
I
can
relay
that
to
the
developer
into
the
Builder
chances.
Are
that's
not
a
big
issue,
but
that
was
not
the
intent.
You
know
all
the
meetings
that
we've
had
so
far
and
the
developers
aware
of
them.
The
builders
are
aware
of
them.
That
we've
been
talking
with
the
the
a
it
was
always
the
intent
with
the
8-foot
fence
adjacent
to
basically
just
to
increase
the
height
of
the
fence
that
they
had
now,
and
that
was
our
understanding.
U
A
U
Well,
the
green
space
is
going
to
be
there
anyway.
The
fence
is
not
going
to
affect
the
green
space.
The
trees
that
are
on
the
property
line
are
not
going
to
be
affected.
They'll
stay
up.
So
really
it's
not
going
to
make
a
whole
lot
of
difference,
and
if
they
leave
their
six-foot
wood
fences
there,
then
they're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
see
the
eight-foot
fence
either
way.
U
So
but
I
guess,
my
only
concern
with
that
Jorge
is
that
that
the
people
own
this
property
I
know
you've
got
an
access
easement
through
it
right
just
just
like
they'd
sale.
The
people
who
live
in
Saylor
place.
What
they've
decided
to
do
is
they've
taken
that
drainage,
easement,
that's
in
their
backyard
and
they've
incorporated,
they
could
have
put
their
fence
on
the
other
side
of
that
15.
But
you
see
what
happened
they
selected.
U
They
chose
to
put
their
fence
on
the
far
side
of
the
easement
and
incorporate
that
property
into
their
backyard
and
they're
mowing
it
they're,
maintaining
it
and
that's
perfectly
fine.
Well,
all
we're
saying
is
that
there's
a
there's
a
pretty
high
probability
that
the
people
in
the
new
subdivision
will
want
to
do
the
same
thing
that
these
folks
are
doing.
That's
all
I'm,
trying
to
say
now
part
of
the
problem
is
that
these
people
that
are
gonna
own
these
houses.
U
A
I
A
J
Mean
let
me
just
ask
question
you're
saying
that
who's
gonna
maintain
this
road
in
the
future,
because
right
now,
dr.
Bertuzzi
has
to
maintain
that
property
or
all
these
people
are
going
to
agree
to
maintain
the
the
free
property
there
they're
now
receiving
I
mean
this
is
an
exam
in
construction,
easy,
but.
J
Right
now,
you're
saying
I
think
right
now
can
I
live
a
block
away,
there's
either
no
fence
on
a
lot
of
the
properties
or
there's
like
a
6-foot
chain
link
fence,
and
so
if
the
fence
is
going
to
be
replaced,
the
proposal
was
they
would
replace
a
fence
on
the
property
line.
If
you're
moving
a
fence,
25
feet,
extra
and
Seiler
people
are
taking
an
extra
25
feet
of
property,
they're,
basically
taking
dr.
producers
property
as
part
of
the
and
they're
taking
the
construction,
easement
and
they're,
taking
the
utility
easement.
N
U
Were
about
what
happens,
though,
Dixie
in
fact
the
attorney
hear
about
mr.
85,
but
if
I'm,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
understand
this
correctly,
that
adverse
possession,
if
you
move
a
fence
after
a
certain
period
of
time,
10
years,
the
fence
uuugh
that
you
don't
own
that
property
anymore.
So
if,
wherever
the
fence
winds
up
going,
if
your?
If
your
fence
and
your.
N
Not
how
adverse
possession
works,
there's
there's
more
elements
to
it
than
that.
One.
The
other
property
owner
would
have
to
fence
that
property
in
and
then
control
it
as
if
it
was
their
own.
What
we're
saying
they
say,
the
Sailor
Drive
fences
will
still
stay
there.
The
eight.
What
she's,
suggesting
that
the
secondary
fence
would
be
moved
here.
The
Sailor
people
would
not
have
use
and
control
and
ownership
of
of
the
easement
area
that
would
remain
mr.
Bertuzzi's
responsibility
or
property.
It
just
wouldn't
be
fenced
in
with
a
double
fence.
N
Again,
our
ordinance
doesn't
allow
any
fences
to
interfere
with
access
to
the
to
the
the
pump
area.
So
there's
adverse
possession
isn't
relative
to
this
to
this
issue.
I
think
it's
just
in
my
opinion.
If
the
AVA
defense
was
a
concession
to
homeowners,
I
think
that
you're,
a
reasonable
and
prudent
person
and
I
think
so
should
developer
I,
don't
think
a
developer
wants
to
build
two
fences
because
he
wants
to
spend
that
extra
money.
N
M
E
U
At
the
moment,
the
it's
a
utility
easement
by
the
utility
authority
and
and
typically
the
whoever
owns
the
easement,
maintains
it
the
power
company
or
the
utility
authority
or
the
city
nine
cases.
You
have
drainage,
easements
that
run
through
backyards
and
people
knowing
that
for
the
city,
but
typically
whoever
owns
the
easement,
is
maintaining
the
easement
right.
A
E
M
Question
is
this
that
what
if
some
doesn't
want
a
fence
in
their
backyard
and
they
want
their
kids
to
be
able
to
run
wherever
in
their
backyard
they
own
that
property
and
I'm
not
completely
opposed
to
this?
But
if
we
were
to
table
this
for
a
week
and
you
go
back
and
talk
to
mr.
burr
to
see
and
say
hey,
do
you
have
a
problem
because
technically
this
is
his
property?
That's
right
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
say:
okay,
you
can't
have
25
foot
of
your
property.
M
Now
if
we
need
to
come
through
there,
we
can,
and
so
everybody
may
not
have
a
fence
in
their
backyard-
may
not
want
it,
and
so
they
may
want
that
25
extra
foot
to
do
whatever,
but
originally
the
agreement
was
not
to
build
a
structure
within
25
foot
of
that
property
line
or
where
their
fence
is,
which
is
actually
40,
foot
and
so
I
sort
of
have
a
problem
dictating
to
a
property
owner.
Hey.
M
V
Billy-Ray
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
that's
the
outfall
from
the
treatment
plant,
so
we're
not
gonna,
let
they're
not!
They
can't
put
a
build
anything
in
that
they
have
to
get
a
permit
from
through
Community
Development
and
it
comes
through
engineering
and
we
will
not
give
them
a
permit
to
build
any
structure
or
more
than
likely,
we
won't
give
them
a
permit
to
fence
that
easement
in
any
way,
because
there's
an
outfall
that
goes
through
there
that
has
to
be
accessed
by
utility
Authority.
So
very
it's
very
unlikely.
V
H
H
Then,
if
I
understood
correctly,
any
construction
activity,
traffic
or
whatever
is
going
to
enter
off
Popp's
Ferry
Road.
Is
there
anything
again
I'm
thinking
the
timing
in
the
traffic
study
and
I
appreciate
the
explanation
in
background
I'm
thinking?
Is
there
any
way
to
restrict
access
from
Atkinson
until
that
traffic
study
is
complete,
in
other
words,
and
if
it
takes
a
year
or
two
I,
don't
know
how
long
it'll
be
before
you
sell
the
first
house
out
there
and
that
develop.
But
let's
say
it's
eighteen
months
it
would
be,
it
would
be
substantially.
U
You
I
would
like
to
make
one
more
while
I'm
here,
but
what's
one
more
comment
about
the
fence
and
be
difficult
here:
usually
I'm
not,
but
the
whole
intent
was
to
provide
a
fence
for
privacy
purposes
and
what's
happening
now.
Is
you
got
this
25
for
the
easement?
That's
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
which
side
of
that
easement
to
put
the
fence
on
well,
the
the
developer
is
simply
wanting
to
do
on
his
property.
What
what
the
homeowners
and
the
developer
did
same
thing?
The
developer
did
on
Sailor
place.
U
If,
if
folks
on
the
new
subdivision
side,
don't
want
a
fence,
then
they
get
to
enjoy
25
morphia
backyard
for
their
dogs
or
whatever
you
see
I'm
saying
just
like
the
sale
place
residents
are
doing,
but
if
you're,
if
you
back
that
fence
up
eight
feet
and
you're
not
give
them
the
the
same
privilege
that
the
sale
replaced
residents
are
enjoying
now,
they're
just
being
treated
differently,
and
that's
fine.
If
that's,
if
that's
the
desire
of
the
council's
and
we'll
have
to
live
with
that,
but
it's
just
not!
It
doesn't
seem
to
be
reasonably
fair.
A
N
You
mr.
steiffel
one
last
question,
I'm,
sorry
being
that
the
property
is
owned
by
the
produces
a
green
space
that
we're
talking
about
and
that
the
fence
was
a
concession
made
by
the
developer
to
the
homeowners.
Would
it
be
fair
to
suggest
that
the
developer
and
the
homeowners
can
or
cannot
decide
to
put
that
8-foot
fence
behind
their
own
individual
properties?
Or
is
this
gonna
be
one
contiguous
fence
that
has
to
be
unified
from
one
end
to
the
other?
Well,
it.
U
N
N
U
Far
as
we're
concerned,
we
will
do
whatever
the
residents
want,
but
you
know
what
I
envisioned
and
it
was
our
understanding
that
that
the
fence
would
be
a
continuous
fence
essentially
to
buffer
all
the
residents
of
sailor
place
all
the
way
down
to
the
to
the
end
of
the
subdivision.
If
some
of
the
sailor
place
residents,
don't
want
the
fence
there,
you
know
we're
okay
with
that,
but
it
just
seems
like
it'd,
be
consistent
and
neat
to
have
it
go
all
the
way
down.
We
did
something
similar.
N
U
You
know
we
don't
mind,
you
know
it
seems
like
it
would
look
horrible
if
you
had.
If
you
had,
you
know,
gaps
in
the
fence,
it
seems
like
you
probably
ought
to
be
all
the
way
or
no
way.
There's
some
folks
like
like
they
said
they're,
not
they
don't
have
fences
at
all
and
they
probably
don't
want
fences
there
right.
N
When
you
say
it
looks
horrible,
we
all
know
the
old
adage
of
what
a
but
in
an
opinion,
is
and
what
it
smells
like.
So
I
would
just
I
would
suggest
that
if
this
was
a
concession
for
the
individual
homeowners,
then
I
would
talk
to
the
individual
homeowners
and
find
some
compromise.
There
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
would
be
willing
to
work
with
you
to
resolve
that.
Well,.
U
O
I
think
the
problem
you're
gonna
have,
when
you
start
talking
to
individual
homeowners,
that
homes
tend
to
change
hands.
So
if
homes
tend
to
change
hands,
you
know
you
made
a
deal
with
one
they're,
not
the
other,
so
that's
gonna
complicate
matters.
I
think
we
can
just
need
to
leave
it
where
it's
at
and
that
way
we
know
we
have
what
we
exactly
what
we
have.
If
we
get
to
jerk
in
the
fence
back
and
forth,
back
and
forth
right
now,
I,
don't
know
what
a
fence
is
that.
U
A
H
The
folks
who
would
know
I,
don't
know
I
want
to
go
back
to
this
widening
of
Atkinson
Road
I.
Don't
know
how
many
parcels
that
would
be
be
a
lot
I,
don't
know
what
the
cost
would
be.
I
mean
the
city
would
bear
the
expense
exclusively.
All
of
that
expense.
Correct
or
would
you
know
if
there's
an
MD,
a
grand
available
or
for
something
like
that?
J
H
N
L
N
Me
respond
to
that
real
quick,
because
what
that
see
when
mr.
steiffel
spoke,
he
said
most
of
the
properties,
if
not
all,
and
then
he
discussed
that
some
property
owners
may
not
want
that
fence.
So
then,
on
the
other
side,
you
still
at
that
point
may
have
a
fence
and
then
not
a
fence
and
then
offense
and
they're,
not
offense,
and
the
defense
thought
so
so
that's
theoretical.
So
what
I
would
rather
do
instead
of
it
stock
talk,
theoretical
or
hypotheticals.
N
G
G
G
E
A
L
If
we
ever
have
to
go
in
to
maintain
an
easement
or
the
county
has
to
go
in
to
maintain
engagement
and
you
have
to
remove,
remove
a
structure
or
a
fence,
then
we
have
to
take
that
down
at
our
cost,
and
then
we
have
to
make
sure
that
it
goes
back
up
after
we
get
through.
So
the
provision
was
put
in
the
ordinance
to
prevent
people
from
putting
accessory
structures
on
an
easement.
You
know:
we've
got
this
situation
to
mr.
L
Lawrence's
Ward
like
up
there
north
of
Division
Street,
where
over
the
years
there
were
alleys
in
there
and
people
came
in
put
fences
and
sheds
all
the
way
down,
and
now
we
have
some
utilities
in
there
that
are
very
difficult
to
get
to
because
we
can't
get
through
them.
So
the
ordinance
was
put
in
there
to
benefit
the
section
was
put
in
there
to
benefit
the
city
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
absorb
those
cost
of
having
to
remove
multiple
fences
to
get
in
and
service
our
lines
or
our
agents.
Gotcha.
All
right.
N
A
H
G
A
G
H
M
W
K
A
K
W
W
W
Budgets,
that's
time
and
and
money,
and
basically
it's
because
we
added
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
that
project,
to
extend
it
further
into
Keesler.
So
the
company
doing
the
project
administration
is
going
to
be
doing
it
longer
and
as
a
percentage
of
that
work,
they
pay
him
a
little
more
that
so
the
the
road
was
originally
not
gonna
go
all
the
way
to
larger,
which
is
the
main
drag
of
Keesler.
Now
it
goes
all
the
way
to
larger
the
so
they're
extending
it
further.
So
that
extends
the
time
and
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
more
again.
I
W
W
It's
actually
a
quantity
change
at
the
existing
rates,
we're
adding
some
more
sedimentation
work,
more
drain,
dredging
work
at
two
of
the
sites,
some
in
some
cases
they
get
into
the
sites
and
the
there's
there's
a
one
day
when
they
go
to
measure,
there's
more
sediment
that
needs
to
be
taken
than
they
thought.
So
in
every
case
they
always
measure
before
they
start
measure
after
they're
done
so
they
could
prove
how
much
has
been
taken
in
the
case
of
two
of
the
sites
they
need
it.
W
This
is
to
create
a
master
dredging
plan
going
out
many
years
right
now.
We're
do
as
I
say
we're
doing
it
like
a
year.
At
a
time
we
go
get
a
little
bit
of
money.
We
do
a
little
bit
of
dredging
and
do
a
little
bit
of
permitting.
Then
next
year
we
go
try
and
figure
out
where
else
to
go
next,
and
sometimes
it's
just
who's
screaming
the
loudest
so
forth.
So
this
this
gives
us
an
actual
master
plan
where
we're
gonna
dredge
over
the
next.
You
know
decade.
O
B
W
A
professional
services
in
this
case
Seymour,
is
doing
all
our
dredging
work
today
today
and
what
we
try
and
do
councilman
is
we
try
and
each
of
these
firms
has
specialties
that
have
done
workforce
and
dress.
Seymour
has
done
a
lot
of
the
dredging
work
and
a
lot
of
the
maritime
stuff,
so
we've
kind
of
stick
with
them
not
to
try
and
unload
you
know:
load
up
bunsen.
W
Somebody
Pickering,
as
you
know,
did
some
great
work
force
on
the
on
the
on
the
on
Howard
Avenue
and
we're
looking
for
a
small
work
for
them
to
do.
Bma
was
also
the
company
that
designed
the
infrastructure
work
for
the
keystore
gate
area,
so
we
gave
them
the
Keesler
gate
area
because
they
were
already
working
there.
So
we
try
and
you
know,
spread
the
work
around
into
a
block,
see
area
of
companies.
In
this
case
we
didn't,
we
didn't
do
a
source
selection.