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From YouTube: City Council Meeting Aug 05 2019
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The Biloxi City Council held a budget workshop on Monday, Aug, 5, 2019 at 1:30 p.m. The two and a half hour workshop included the non-departmental budget. To see the agenda, visit https://biloxi.ms.us/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/080519smcou1.pdf.
B
C
Report
Thank
You
mr.
president,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
know
of
a
moment
of
silence
not
only
for
Bill
Prince,
but
also
you
know
the
tragedies
we
had
this
weekend
in
el
peor
this
weekend
in
El,
Paso
and
and
also
Dayton,
but
as
far
as
bill
bill
served
the
city
of
Biloxi
from
1986
to
his
retirement
in
2005.
You
know
he
was
the
he
oversaw
the
tremendous
boom
that
we
was
seeing,
that
the
advent
of
casinos
and
casino
resorts
bill
died
on
the
19th
of
July
and
I
condolences,
family
and
his
friends.
D
E
I've
put
at
your
place
something
entitled
fiscal
year.
2020
budget
highlights
I
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
read
those
for
the
record.
What's
in
our
budget,
as
we
sit
today,
is
a
2%
increase
in
employer
or
city
contribution
to
the
municipal,
Retirement
System
684
budget
positions
proposed
for
this
year.
E
Those
will
replace
a
similar
number
of
vehicles
that
will
go
out
of
service
and
then
be
sold
vehicle
purchases
for
parks
to
engineering,
one
and
$150,000
in
capital
for
vehicles
and
equipment
for
Public
Works,
an
upgrade
to
our
IT
firewall
to
achieve
federal
compliance
for
police
information
and
a
new
sound
system
for
the
council-chamber.
Those
are
the
highlights
of
what's
in
the
budget,
for
the
record.
What's
not
in
the
budget
is
there
is
no
citywide
pay
increase
in
the
budget.
E
What
we'll
do
today,
in
addition
to
answering
your
questions
about
those
items,
is
that
we've
got
a
report
by
CTA
that
you
requested
non
department,
a
report
by
Casa,
that
you
requested
a
report,
a
report
which
I
will
make
for
the
Center
for
non-violence,
a
new
request
that
we
received
this
week
and
also
request
from
the
Harris
County
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District.
Those
are
all
those
were
both
new
requests.
E
A
Miss
Linnet.
Ok.
Does
that
conclude
the
mayor's
report?
Ok,
no
departmental
reports,
Council
reports,
joy,
the
report,
no
despair
and
also
I
have
no
report.
We're
going
to
move
on
to
the
public
agenda
agenda
citizen
comments
so
a
lot
of
time.
45
minutes
three
minutes
per
person,
but
anyone
on
my
left
would
like
to
come
up
and
speak.
G
A
E
H
E
J
You
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
lean
into
that
mic,
just
just
good.
Okay,
yeah,
sorry
about
that
discuss
our
budget
request,
I'd
like
to
start
off
by
talking
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
doing
this
year
fiscal
year.
2019
we've
got
our
our
core
services
fixed
route,
bus
services
that
you
were
funding
at.
J
So,
in
addition
to
the
$320,000
for
the
fixed
route,
bus
services,
biloxi
costs
here,
the
local
match,
with
the
city
of
be
Agra,
ville,
biloxi,
twenty
three
thousand
six
hundred
fifty
D'iberville
eleven
thousand
eight
hundred
twenty
five.
We
ran
that
for
the
six-month
demonstration
period
and
then
terminated
that
route
due
to
low
ridership
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
do
that
particular
route
and
being
responsive
to
the
Earth's
citizens
in
that
area.
J
That
brings
me
to
this
year.
What
I'm,
asking
for
I've
got
all
this
detailed
information
I'll
provide
for
you
all
every
year,
we're
asking
for
an
increase
for
fiscal
year,
2020
from
320,000
to
333,
which
is
a
13%
increase
or
4%
reason.
Why
we're
asking
for
the
increase
is
because
our
operating
costs
have
gone
up.
J
J
If
you
look
at
the
third
to
the
last
page
on
a
hold
of
these
documents,
it's
got
the
worksheet.
Well,
the
money
comes
from
the
fund,
your
outlets,
it's
based
on
hours
of
service,
we're
going
to
provide
in
the
cost
per
hour,
so
we're
projecting
we're
going
to
be
providing
25,000
hours
of
fixed
route
bus
service
in
fiscal
year,
2020
at
a
cost
of
73
dollars
an
hour.
It's
1
million
eight
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
is
what
the
cost
is
to
provide
that
service
in
fiscal
year.
2020
below
that
towards
the
bottom.
J
You
see:
funding
sources
fiscal
year,
2020
in
the
middle.
It's
got
fta,
PM,
farebox,
FTA,
operating
advertising
revenue,
all
those
different
sources
of
revenue,
self
generated
revenue
that
we
bring
to
the
table
to
fund
your
route
and
after
we
projected
all
of
the
grants
that
we
can
get
state
and
federal
and
Harrison
County
subsidies
and
all
the
self
generated
income
like
fairbault
we're
projecting
a
funding
shortage
of
thirteen
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars.
So
that
is
the
reason
why
we're
asking
for
a
$13,000
or
four
percent
increase
for
this
fiscal
coming
fiscal
year.
J
K
D
B
B
K
Just
at
$280,000
and
we
had
the
same
problem
in
the
city,
like
you
said,
probably
something
of
gas
and
we
hit
the
same
problem
and
you
just
can't
fund
everybody
and
have
a
deficit
budget.
You
know
so
I
mean
everybody's
got
to
cut
that.
Sometimes
it's
hard
to
prepare
increases
if
anything,
we're
trying
to
cut
it
out
of
the
city.
I
mean
that's
just
that's
my
feeling,
but
I
mean
well.
K
We
gave
280
to
the
CTA
for
the
most
to
sixty
to
eighty,
it's
always
in
that
Park
and
when
you
waited
a
while
coming
on
to
Alva,
we
said
we
take
the
shot
at
it.
That's
where
it
was
320.
Last
year
we
had
35,000
whatever
was
short
so
anyway.
That's
that's
my
take
on
earth.
Yeah
thank
the
tough
things
went
up.
Everything
goes
up,
but
sometimes
you
got
to
do
something
yourself.
Just
like
the
city,
it's
something
we
have
to
pull
back
on
certain
things
you.
K
K
J
E
Kevin
I
I
have
a
question
I'd
like
to
ask
just
drill
down
you
part
of
the
subsidy
that
reduces
how
much
we
pay
is
advertising
your
ability
to
earn
money
advertising,
as
you
know,
and
as
the
council
knows,
we're
in
the
process
of
removing
a
lot
of
benches
in
the
city.
Is
there
a
possibility
going
forward
in
future
years
or
even
maybe
later
in
this
year,
that
that
you
could
replace
some
of
those
benches
in
the
city
with
CTA
benches?
That
would
draw
some
advertising
that
would
reduce
the
subsidy
in
future
years.
Yes,.
J
D
J
K
H
K
Everyone
ever
affects
us,
because
anything
we
always
done
is
always
burning
pretty
much
the
same
amount
of
money
and
when
you
have
good
years
and
bad
years,
you
know
and
right
now
we
strain
it
ourselves,
the
city
of
Luxor,
so
you
have
to
look
at
it.
That
way
from
my
point,
you
know
got
take
care
about
it.
G
G
J
G
J
What
the
challenge
is,
what
some
of
these
companies
that
want
to
come
in
and
the
one
mr.
Leonard
specifically
is
alluding
to
we're
talking
to
them,
but
they
come
in
and
they
put
the
benches
and
they
sell
the
advertising
revenue
and
they
give
us
a
small
percentage
right
now.
We're
selling
it
ourselves,
so
it
gets
complicated.
What
we're
looking
at
is
opportunities
to
sell
more
of
it
ourselves
as
opposed
to
contracting
it
out.
But
to
answer
your
question
specifically,
every
dollar
of
revenue
that
we
generated
in
advertising
sales
reduces
the
need
for
your
local
subsidy.
G
I
understood
correctly
you're
asking
for
333333
thousand
dollars
last
year.
It
was
34,
excuse
me
343,
but
that
included
the
D'iberville
route
without
the
D'iberville
route.
I
think
you
were
scheduled
for
320,000
and
a
number
of
years
ago.
I
don't
have
the
data
in
front
of
me,
I
want
to
say
it
was
like
280
and
then
maybe
two
hundred
ninety
five
thousand,
and
then
we
looked
at
a
number
of
different
routes
over
the
years
and
some
made
and
some
did
and
we
just
couldn't
get
the
the
D'iberville
biloxi
right
along
pops
very
going.
G
K
E
E
L
L
I
J
J
L
I
L
Route
from
D'iberville,
so
the
base
was
not
317
until
we
added
that
D'iberville
route.
To
that,
then
we
come
back
and
added
an
additional
amount
with
a
match
from
D'iberville
to
get
to
the
343,
because
that
was
spread
over
two
fiscal
years.
So
if
that's
the
case
that
2017
number
was
increased,
but
that
increase
included
what
we
put
on
that
D'iberville
realm,
because
that
was
over
two
fiscal
years,
because
I
remember
discussing
this
at
two
different
budget
worked
two
different
times.
L
We
had
budget
workshops
and
this
wasn't
and
D'iberville
at
the
same
time,
because
I
remember
having
this
conversation
with
some
of
the
council
members
in
D'iberville,
so
that
three
to
eighty
seven
hundred
to
three
thousand
seventeen
included
a
portion
that
we
paid
for
that
part
of
that
route
in
D'iberville.
Then,
when
it
was
expanded,
we
paid
an
additional
amount.
L
E
L
L
J
L
I
L
Know
we're
looking,
the
police
department
have
requests
and
we
cut
back
their
request.
The
fire
department
have
requests
and
we
cut
their
requests
back
to
me.
That's
the
two
most
important
departments
in
the
city,
because
that's
that's
the
public
safety,
that's
the
safety
of
our
citizens
and
if
we're
going
to
cut
them
and
the
things
that
they
need,
because
there's
not
enough
revenue
there.
We
have
to
look
at
every
request
that
comes
in,
and-
and
this
isn't
just
your
network.
L
J
L
I
D
L
E
C
L
E
L
But
my
question
is
going
back
to
that
17
18
years
budget,
when
we
jumped
from
280
to
317
how
much
of
that
D'iberville
route
encompassed
that
40
sir
$37,000
difference
and
and
that's
30
75.
If
I
remember
correctly,
that
37
5
that
we
added
it
was
originally
a
$75,000
route.
D'iberville
wouldn't
come
to
the
table,
and
so
we
said
we're
gonna
spend
37
5,
which
is
half
of
it.
What
can
we
get
so
if
that
route
goes
away
completely?
We
have
bigger
than
a
$13,000
difference.
J
L
I
mean
if
you
look
at
that
number,
that
280
to
317
is
about
$35,000,
and
so
we
we
budgeted
additional
35,000,
I,
believe
or
30
for
5,
or
something
along
that
or
maybe
37
5
yeah.
It
was
37
thousand
five
hundred,
which
was
half
of
that
route.
It
to
run
that
route
for
six
months
is
what
we
did
and
we
can
come
back
and
look
at
it.
L
You
know
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
point
that
out,
it's
more
than
the
13,000
that
that
it's
showing
it
includes
that
the
other
portion
of
what
we
budgeted
for
that
route
the
previous
year
and
so
by
losing
that
route
that
you're
actually
going
back
to
our
2017
services
and
asking
for
an
additional
$50,000
is
basically
what
we're
doing
with
the
333
ask.
That's
53,000
above
the
8700
that
we
had
with
the
same
services
will
be
getting
for
333,000.
D
L
E
E
I
L
We
just
will
go
back
through
our
notes
and
see.
If
we
want
to
make
you
know
we
can.
We
have
time
to
make
a
decision
if
we
want
to
allow
the
ask
or
cut
it,
but
you
know
I
think
that
we
need
to
at
least
review
going
back
the
two
last
budgets
and
see
exactly
where
what
those
increases
were
and
like
I
said.
I
I
know
that
I
know
that
mr.
Tisdale
keeps
all
his
notes
so.
G
L
F
Then,
when
we
came
to
budget
we
did
not
there's
no
resolutions,
that's
been
amended.
This
is
were
all
adopted
numbers
from
318
to
this.
This
year's
25,000
319
I
think
that
25,000
was
for
the
West
Biloxi
route.
That
would
not
add
a
new
West
Biloxi
route
by
the
Walmart,
but
it's
changed
to
different
numbers.
L
D
M
E
K
F
L
What
we
can
go
back
and
look
to
see
why
we
had
those
increases.
We
have
that
information
as
to
why
we
had
the
increases,
and
so
if
a
portion
of
that
is
that,
my
point
being
is
we're
losing
the
entire
D'iberville
realm,
because
it
doesn't
work,
it
doesn't
make
sense
and
I,
don't
believe
that
we
should
continue
to
play
an
absorbent
amount
or
out
that
we're
not
going
to
have
and
that's
basically
what
we're
doing
the
amount
that
we're
we're
paying
and
I
understand.
You
know
that
that
you
have
increases.
L
We
have
a
2%
increase
for
over
600
employees
that
we
have
to
absorb
as
oil
going
into
purse,
and
you
know
insurance
increases
for
us
as
well,
just
like
it
does
for
you
and
so
I
think
we
have
a
responsibility
to
look
at
every
line
on
this
budget
and
make
the
make
the
needed
cuts.
Like
I
said
we
have
a
four
million
dollar
difference
in
what
we're
going
to
spend
or
what
we're
needing
to
spend.
J
I
K
J
J
K
K
As
well,
I
suggested
we
just
go
back
to
the
base
of
280
m
would
go
from
there.
Something
happens
just
like
doing
a
year,
something
happening
bad.
Then
we
have
to
change
it,
but
I
mean
it's
like
nature's
ain't.
No,
we
got
Foom
you
now.
If
we
look
at
that
somewhere,
somebody
gotta
give
up
something
so
ro
later
they'll
get
a
hundred
thousand
for
sure
coming
two
percent
and
you
have
certain
fire
equipment.
I
think
you
have
to
buy
I'll
put
on
the
books
this
year.
A
Okay,
well,
I
didn't
I,
didn't
have
anything
I
wanted
it
I
had
a
question.
That's
who
I
guess?
Yes,
sir
okay,
cuz
I'm,
looking
at
your
Maps
they're
a
little
hard
to
read.
So
if
you
can
get
something
a
little
bit
clearer
that
their
memory
right
now,
we
have
no
connectors
to
the
I
reveal
at
all.
They
go
from
Biloxi
to
D'iberville.
There's.
J
J
E
D
J
J
A
Know
that
there's
a
we're
looking
at
another
project
coming
in
on
maybe
sixty
sixty
some
units
coming,
which
will
be
right
off
Division
Street
and
the
possibility
of
looking
at
that
route
coming
back
down,
Division
Street-
probably
not
now,
but
but
if
you
can
work
something
up
to
give
us,
maybe
six
months
out
from
now
to
the
end
of
the
year,
maybe
trying
to
implement
that
maybe
right
around
Christmas
or
right
after
what
L
just
the
holiday
schedule.
I
don't
know
I'd.
J
I
I
B
I
apologize
I
had
this
on
my
calendar
for
three
o'clock
today
and
Michelle
made
me
aware
that
at
the
last
minute
we
changed
it
back
to
1:30.
Apparently
my
calendar
didn't
get
that
update,
so
I
apologize
for
being
late.
Pallas
briefly
filled
me
in
on
the
basis
of
the
discussion
right
now
and
I.
Look
at
the
number,
so
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
comments
to
make,
with
the
exception
of
what
I
walked
into
and
he
discussed
the
routes
to
the
Iberville.
B
Guess
we're
gonna
get
some
answers
before
we
really
make
some
decisions
on
this.
If
you
would
Kevin
I
know
you
have
my
email,
would
you
forward
that
to
me
so
I
could
review
it.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
the
one
in
the
last
meeting
that
requested
that
we
hold
off
on
discussions
because
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
that,
because
so,
if
you
would
send
them
over
to
me,
so
I
can
review
them.
I
still
have
all
my
notes.
B
From
last
year,
I'll
review
those
as
well
and
and
then,
of
course,
the
council
will
be
apprised
of
all
of
that.
I
don't
have
anything
further,
because
I
walked
into
something
I,
don't
want
to
make
people
restate
what
they've
already
said:
I'll
watch
this
feed
and
come
back
when
we
return
with
any
questions
that
I
have
regarding
the
public
transportation
or
the
CTA.
Thank
you.
E
If
we're
done
with
the
Kevin,
that
sounds
like
we're
done,
I'll
be
happy
to
provide
counsel
the
fact
the
facts,
the
facts
we
know
the
facts,
are
you
know
what
we
budgeted
and
then
what
we
spent
in
each
of
those
last
four
years
I
could
provide
those
to
y'all
email
and
all
that
to
you
as
to
as
to
what
subsidy
remember
that
this
is
the
way
we
get
to
the
bottom
line
with
CTA.
Is
he
sums
up
his
cost,
for
whatever
the
routes
are
that
we're
gonna?
E
Have
he
then
subtracts
the
subsidies,
very
subsidies,
County
subsidies,
advertising
subsidies
so
forth
and
comes
up
to
a
figure?
That's
the
doubt,
the
Delta
between
his
costs
and
Sep
subsidies,
and
that's
the
amount
that
were
charged
for
that
route.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
if
we
don't
want
to
pay
that
amount,
the
only
option
CTA
has
is
to
amend
somehow
the
schedule
of
scheduled
routes
to
reduce
the
cost.
B
Do
you
have
him
with
your
they
in
a
box?
One
question
given
I
know:
I
said
I
was
done
and
you
may
have
addressed
this.
If
you
have
addressed
this,
just
let
me
so
you
don't
have
to
address
it
again.
I
have
you
talked
with
the
ivory
on
the
ivory,
no
contributed
for
the
route,
I
think
it's
32
that
was
connecting
Biloxi
and
the
prom
date
directly
or
D'iberville,
but
for
the
purpose
of
getting
our
ridership
into
the
promenade
area,
primarily
have
you
talked
to
them?
Are
they
what
of
what's
going
on
with
their
budgeting?
J
Strictly,
based
on
my
recommendation
and
I
shared
the
ridership
information
with
clay
and
told
America
because
of
the
low
ridership,
and
it
wasn't
growing,
my
recommendation
was
to
terminate
it.
It
grew
from
like
2.8
the
first
demonstration
project
like
three
point
four
per
hour
during
the
second
demonstration
project.
I
mean
I'm
like
everybody
else's
it's
this
thing's,
it
means
like
you
know
the
community
was
asking
for
it
that
they
would
use
it
more
than
they
did.
But
you
know,
there's
factors
come
into
play.
J
Like
the
you
know,
the
the
college
closed
you
know,
kind
of
like
overnight
kind
of
thing.
Some
of
those
people
were
using
it.
So
you
know
you
never
know
when
you
put
those
routes
out
there,
whether
it's
gonna
be
ridership
or
not,
because
the
community
sees
it
as
a
good
thing
and
their
neighbors.
You
know
they
think
their
neighbors
need
it
and
they
know
people
that
need
it,
but
they
don't
need
it
and
we
run
into
that
a
lot.
J
B
Well,
it
did
grow,
it
just
didn't
grow
to
the
rate
that
you're
happy
and
it
only
we
only
had
to
trial
runs
in
that
second
trial,
and
we
had
some.
We
had
some
concerns
with
the
public
of
the
shutting
down,
so
they
started
making
alternative
plans
or
different
things,
but
the
growth
is
still
gross.
It
did
grow
with
regard
to
whether
it
did
grow.
Have
you
taken
into
consideration
the
the
chance
that
it
may
continue
to
grow
and
reach
that
ridership
with
any
business?
B
You
look
at
what
your
growth
potential
is,
and
you
look
at
what
your
advertising
is
and
your
public
awareness
of
the
product.
Then
your
public
need
of
the
product,
and
so
right
now
we
we
do
have
a
growth
in
ridership.
Do
we
have
another
public
awareness
to
say
that
it's
not
worth
improving
the
quality
of
life
for
our
residents
that
that
that
public
knowledge
is
more
important
than
the
service
itself,
because
if
they
don't
they're
not
aware
of
the
service,
they
can't
use
the
service.
B
J
We
have
a
marketing
department,
a
person
that
does
marketing
and
we
put
more
time,
money
and
effort
into
that
route.
Then
we
have
any
other
routes.
A
lot
of
media
coverage,
a
lot
of
meetings
with
tenants
and
buildings
and
visits
at
businesses
and
where
we're
going
in
and
meeting
with
apartment
complexes
and
meeting
with
tenants
and
giving
them
some
free
passes
to
get
them
to
come
out
and
try
the
service
and.
B
B
I
J
B
G
You're,
looking
at
seven
riders
per
hour,
I
think
was
your
standard,
yes
and
even
then
cat
with
that
route.
As
long
as
we
carried
that
you,
you
only
got
half
of
that
in
in
a
good
week,
more
or
less
I.
Just
don't
know
that
the
demand
is
there,
I
mean
I'm
all
for
it.
I
know
a
lot
of
senior
citizens
that
if
you
don't
drive,
how
do
you
get
out
of
your
house
and
socialize
and
get
from
one
place
to
another?
G
B
There's
a
difference
between
demands
and
quantity
demanded,
and
so
the
demand
is
is
derived
based
off
a
lot
of
things,
and
so
the
quantity
demanded
is
something
that
we
determine
once
we
know
that
there
is
a
demand
or
isn't
a
demand.
Then
we
can
determine
how
much
of
that
quantity
is
actually
going
to
use
whatever
product
or
service
were
we're,
advertising,
selling
or
promoting,
and
so
I,
don't
think
within
a
year
and
to
trial
runs.
B
When
we've
seen
an
increase
of
30
to
33
percent,
we
can
actually
say
we
have
a
good
foundation
of
what
that
quantity
demand.
It
is
because
I
don't
think
the
market.
The
test
market,
which
is
people
in
that
round,
are
even
aware
that
this
route
exists
yet
I
think
we
have
done
a
good
job
of
advertising.
D
B
Their
entire
life,
it's
never
existed
so
they've
never
counted
on
it.
They've
made
other
provisions
and
when
we
see
a
30
percent
or
a
30,
something
percent
increase
in
growth
in
six
months.
I
think
that's
a
positive
indicator
that
there
is
a
need,
and
that
may
continue
to
grow,
but
obviously
I'm,
representing
the
people
in
my
ward
and
in
my
district
that
wants
stuff
like
this
and
are
the
ones
that
use
it.
I
E
B
I
I
N
I
B
B
Of
this
route,
so
if
this
route
is
gone,
why
is
it
up
sixty
eight
thousand
dollars
from
where
it
was
in
2018?
That's
what
we
need
to
know.
We
have
numbers,
but
what
are
those?
What
justifies
those
numbers
and
what
support
do
you
have
for
those
numbers?
So
that's
what
we
need
to
see
before
we
can
have
a
fair
conversation
about
what
needs
to
happen
with
the
routes.
So.
B
J
B
A
J
J
J
J
B
B
B
On
board
I
mean:
am
I
right?
That's
what
what
got
them
on
board.
So
we
all
agree
and
understand
it's.
It
increases
the
quality
of
our
citizens,
life
and
an
opportunity
to
access
to
retail
and
health
care,
and
we
know
that,
but
they
know
it
as
well
that
it's
a
benefit
to
their
businesses
and
their
bottom
line.
They
got
on
board
and
they
were
50/50
with
us
in
this
last.
In
this
last
run,
I
mean.
K
E
Well,
if
I'm
tracking
I
think
we've
got
two
questions,
one
that
one
is
to
explain
the
increase
in
the
base,
ridership
of
the
existing
routes
between
2017
and
2019
and
then
this
year,
and
also
the
question
of
if
we
were
to
reinstitute
route
32.
What
would,
if
would
the
Iberville
contribute
to
that?
And
and
if
not,
how
much
would
it
be
for
us
to
have
route
32
so
sort
of
two
competing
questions.
O
B
J
E
O
N
N
Ginny
here
and
I'm
executive
director
for
Casa
Harrison
County,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
funding
our
org
help
funding
our
organization.
Since
2011,
we
are
a
small,
not-for-profit
501c3
located
here
in
Harrison
County,
all
the
funding
that
funds
our
program
comes
from
companies,
foundations
and
individuals
right
here
in
Harrison
County.
Our
mission
is
our
sole
mission.
The
only
mission
that
we
have
is
to
recruit,
train
and
support
volunteers
to
advocate
for
neglected
abused
children
last
year.
N
At
the
end
of
last
year,
2018
there
were
825
children
right
here
in
Harrison
County
that
were
in
CPS
legal
custody
when
we
term
legal
custody.
That
means
that
the
state
has
these
children
in
their
ward.
Okay,
that's
not
counting
all
of
the
in-home
cases
and
monitor
cases.
Have
you
guys
heard
of
the
families
first
act.
I
N
N
2018
Casa
of
Harrison
County
advocated
for
234
children,
how
many
children
right
here
Biloxi
last
year,
we
advocated
for
46
children
right
here
with
the
address
of
Biloxi.
They
go
to
school
here
they
live
here
they
play
here
and
we
advocated
for
them.
How
did
we
advocate
for
them
where
we
trained
community
volunteers
to
to
go
into
the
home?
Can
you
imagine
volunteers
going
into
a
home
not
knowing
where
the
home
is
not
knowing
who's
going
to
be
there
to
make
sure
that
that
home
is
safe
for
the
child,
they
go
to
all
et
meetings.
N
N
Absolutely
none
of
us
I
was
not
it's
a
learned,
behavior,
okay,
and
so
it
takes
all
of
us
when
I
grew
up
in
a
small
little
town
in
Illinois
the
neighbors,
the
Sunday
school
teacher,
my
first-grade
teacher,
they
all
knew
my
business.
They
knew
when
I
was
good.
They
knew
when
I
was
bad
and
believe
you
me,
they
told
my
parents
right
a
lot
of
our
folks
parents
that
we
work
with.
They
have
never
had
a
support
system
instead
of
blaming
them.
We
walk
alongside
of
them.
N
We
help
them
as
little
things
to
form
positiveness
you've
done
a
great
job.
Your
house
looks
nice
I'm,
so
glad
that
you're
getting
your
kids
up
for
school
I'm,
so
glad
that
your
your
kids
are
not
have
not
been
tardy
when
you
raise
people
and
help
them
learn
how
to
parent,
they
become
better
parents.
N
N
N
We're
not
increasing
it,
our
budget
we're
a
small
for
not-for-profit
and
we
have
42
volunteers.
We
have
two
office
staff,
so
we
get
a
lot
done
with
last
year's
budget,
our
operating
budget
with
one
hundred
and
twenty-two
thousand
dollars.
So
we
do
a
lot
of
work
with
two
staff,
members
and
40
volunteers
and
we
advocated
for
235
children
here
in
Harrison
County.
You.
N
We
do
hear
some
kind
of
Board
of
Supervisors
give
us
a
lot
of
funding.
We
receive
the
same
amount
of
funding
from
Galt
City
of
Gulfport.
Five
thousand
we
receive
Pass
Christian
funded
us.
We
receive
a
lot
of
money
from
Hancock
Bank
and
all
the
other
little.
You
know
the
banks,
so
we're
100%
community.
You
found
it
Harrison,
County
funded,
we've,
never
received
federal
grants,
state
grants,
and
so
we
kind
of
run
a
tight
fiscal
ship
at
our
organization.
J
N
N
N
N
E
I
E
G
Oh
there's
I
was
looking
through
the
cdbg,
the
project
appropriations,
everything
I,
think
there's
$10,000
set
aside
for
them,
as
I
recall,
I,
think
that
might
have
been
the
case
last
year,
but
we
just
received
at
least
I'll
receive
the
letter.
I'm
assuming
you
all
received
a
letter,
maybe
in
your
mailbox.
E
E
A
H
You
know
it's
not
at
all
a
rarity
for
us
to
have
to
take
action
and
a
family
dispute
or
we're
husband
and
wife
are
having
problems.
We
have
to
separate
them
a
lot
of
times
and
much
of
the
time
we
have
to
find
a
place
to
take
them.
The
center
for
non-violence
will
allow
us
to
do
that
with
with
women
and
kids.
H
E
G
It's
for
whatever
the
allocation
is,
you
can
spend
up
to
fifteen
percent,
basically
I
think
for
services
or
support
services,
things
of
that
nature
and
and
I'm
thinking
in
the
past.
I
can't
remember
the
figures
right
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
it
was
ten
thousand
for
the
Center
for
non-violence,
I,
think
more
community,
more
community.
D
G
Was
that
received
something
now
back?
They
mentioned
that
that
flows
any
contributions,
air
flows
through
mr.
creoles
office
as
I
recall,
so
you
can't
expend
more
than
15%
I,
don't
know
I
want
to
say
it
was
sixty
thousand
dollars
total
in
this
last
program
year
appropriation
for
CDBG
didn't
we
approve
that
the
last
council
made.
E
G
E
G
Do
more
than
15%
you
can
do
less
than
15%,
or
maybe
it's
a
minute
yeah
yeah
anyway,
since
it's
the
last
year
2019
the
last
year
of
a
five-year
program,
there's
no
carryover
money,
so
there
I
think
if
Susan
picket
was
here
should
tell
you
that
they've
appropriated
and
allocated
every
time
that
they
have
available
again.
This
is
the
last
year
in
a
five
year
cycle,
because
you
have
to
present
a
five
year
plan
and
then
revise
that.
G
E
We
submitted
a
revised
plan
to
HUD
right
now.
Our
plan
action
plan
for
this
next
year
has
been
submitted
and
it's
like
those
three,
those
three
community
grants
and
there,
including
the
$10,000
for
Center
for
non-violence.
So
in
this,
unless
we
submitted
a
revised
plan
to
Jackson
to
HUD
in
Jackson
yeah.
G
That's
true,
you
can
grant
is
locked
in
right.
You,
you
could
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
all
this
stuff.
All
I
know
is
what
I
picked
up
in
dealing
with
these.
You
know
and
educating
myself,
there's
always
a
possibility
for
a
budget
amendment
that
may
or
may
not
be
approved
through
up
up
and
down
the
ladder
from
the
feds
and
through.
K
G
To
say
you
get
an
allocation
from
the
feds
and
then
you
have
program
funds
that
are
generated
locally
and
whatever
that
figure
is
for
some
reason,
I
want
to
say
it's.
Six
hundred
and
forty
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
thousand
something
you
can
use.
15
percent
of
that
now
up
to
15
percent
of
that
and
I
think
what
they've
used
I
want
to
say
is
ten
or
twelve
percent,
as
I
recall,
I,
think
I
think
you
totaled
sixty
among
those
three
or
four
organizations.
That's.
E
E
I'll
resend,
the
page
out
of
the
action
plan.
That's
got
the
amount
that
we
have
set
aside
for
the
Center
for
non-violence.
I
was
handed
a
note,
as
we
were
talking
about
how
much
we
paid
how
much
we
gave
to
the
Center
for
non-violence
in
the
past,
and
it's
been
as
high
as
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
back
in
fiscal
year,
oh
seven,
and
as
recently
as
fiscal
year
12,
we
were
given
him
thirty
three
six,
two.
B
G
G
E
A
Absolutely
because
if
you
look
at
a
community
development
block
grant
money,
we
already
have
a
lot
allocated
there
already.
So
with
that
being
said,
you
know
we
put
this
in
here
for
that
purpose:
Community
Development,
Block,
Grant
money's
already,
you
know
chipped
away
at
a
whole
lot
and
and
again,
just
like
you
said
we
still
have
to
fund
those
things
that
we.
I
E
E
I
have
a
one
other
additional
request
that
came
in
during
the
week,
and
that
is
the
Harrison
County
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District
asked
us
for
$15,000
I'm,
not
totally
familiar
on
what
the
Soil
and
Water
Conservation
District
does,
but
we
had
not
given
them
money.
Last
year
we
gave
him
$15,000
a
year
before
that
I
think
that's
the
only
time,
I
remember
that
that
requests
in
my
time
here,
so
we
didn't
get
any
money
at
all
last
year.
So
that's.
E
K
Time
you
talk
giving
away
a
little
bit
of
money,
they're
all
gonna
line
up
again
and
out
reason
we
stopped
at
all
once
before.
Are
there
the
ones
we
wanted
to
support
like
the
Back
Bay
mission,
the
more
community
out
and
probably
stopped
doing
that?
That's
how
they
run
up
to
me
and
knowledge.
Do
they
all
kind
of
Johnny
50,000,
each
25,000
75,000,
and
they
want
you
to
cut
it
they'll
get
bit
to
give
it
25
it
that's
more
money
we
put
now
every
time
we
do
that.
You
know
we.
I
L
And
I
agree
with
George
and
I
know.
This
is
stepping
outside
of
the
nine
part
mental,
but
you
know
I'm,
very
uncomfortable,
approving
a
budget
with
a
four
million
dollar
gap
in
it.
I
know
that
we
at
work
projecting
the
8.3
surplus
at
the
end
of
the
year,
but
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
this
has
already
been
looked
at
and
some
numbers
have,
you
know,
been
agreed
on,
but
I
think-
and
you
know
this
is
obvious
since
day.
L
One
for
me
on
here
I
think
that
you
know
there's
a
couple
of
departments
that
we
have
to
take
care
of
from
top
to
bottom,
because
it
concerns
our
public
safety.
That's
the
police
department,
the
fire
department
and
even
our
Public
Works
Department,
making
sure
that
our
roads
are
safe
for
our
people
to
travel
on.
L
Our
ditches
are
cleaned
out
so
that
so
that
water
doesn't
back
up
into
people's
home
and
create
unsafe
driving
conditions,
and
things
like
that,
but
outside
of
that
that
I
believe
that
everything's
on
the
table
to
look
at
hitting
some
reductions,
because
we
have
a
responsibility.
I
meant
nobody
in
this
room.
Nobody
in
this
room
I
mean
we're
talking,
I,
don't
know
what
four
million
dollars
of
63
million
is,
but
it's
it's
about.
6%
nunny.
None
of
us
are
going
to
spend
an
absorbent
amount
above
what
we
make
in
our
regular
lifes
and
I.
L
Don't
think
that
we
that
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
with
the
taxpayers
money
I
think
that
we
have
a
responsibility
to
the
taxpayers
to
be
fiscally
responsible
and
and
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
needs,
but
sometimes
sometimes
you
have
to
do
things
that
hurt
to
make
to
make
things
add
up,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
outside
of,
like
I
said
those
two
or
three
departments.
I
think
we
need
to
go
back
and
start
looking
at
and
and-
and
you
know,
I
agree
with
what
Paul
said
last
week,
our
dr.
L
D
E
I
I
see
two
options:
if
you
really
want
to
close
that
gap,
one
of
them
is
layoffs.
That's
where
all
70%
of
the
money
is.
If
we
want
to
reduce
some
positions,
that's
one
way
to
get
to
it.
Second,
one
is
to
increase
the
revenue
and
the
only
way
I
know
to
do
that.
On
top
of
what
we
already
have
is
to
raise
our
tax
rate.
E
M
I
M
M
B
B
E
E
G
B
B
B
If
we
have
a
surplus
before
we
start
talking
about,
raising
taxes
are
laying
off.
We
need
to
find
other
places
and
there
are
plenty
of
other
places
we
can
trim
the
fat
there
isn't
just
one
way
we
increase
this.
We
add
with
two
of
this
portion.
We
raised
a
little
bit
because
of
pers,
something
we
can't
control.
That
is
absolutely
something.
We're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
change
or
trim.
B
I
B
Are
the
things
we
have
to
look
at
the
increased
spending
and
the
increased
opportunities
that
we
thought
we
were
taking
that
were
financial
opportunities?
There's
plenty
of
things
we
can
do
to
reduce
our
exposure
to
that
increased
cost.
That's
what
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
We
need
to
use
the
money
that
we
have
them
surplus
to
help
substitute
and
support
our
budget
right
now,
while
we
address
reducing.
B
I
I
B
Infrastructure
issues,
but
we
have
to
do
that
responsibly.
We
can't
just
say
because
the
fire
department
says
we
need
X
amount
of
dollars.
We
just
give
it
to
them
blindly.
We
are
all
as
studious
and
expeditious
as
possible
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
we're
responsibly
funding
those
departments,
I
think
that
we
can
I
know.
I
talked
a
long
time
about
creating
the
engineering
department.
I
know
Chrissy's
back
there
and
she
probably
hates
to
hear
this,
but
there's
a
lot
of
expenditure.
B
We
broke
off
the
engineering
from
the
Public
Works
Department
that
increased
a
lot
of
costs
for
the
city
we
doubled
director
pay
and
we
doubled.
We
doubled
space
and
other
labor
that
we
didn't
have
to
do.
It
worked
fine
when
they
were
together.
That's
just
an
example:
Christy
I'm
not
suggesting
that
your
position
be
terminated,
but
these
are.
These
are
just
suggestions
that
I'm
looking
at
that.
M
B
A
Let
me
have
a
comment
or
two
on
that
as
they
drive
around
and
look
around
the
city
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
need
to
be
done
so
cutting
workers
is
probably
not
shouldn't
be
even
come
close
to
put
on
the
put
on
the
table.
We
need
to
take
care
of
our
citizens
and
that's
what
we
hit
it
I
understand
what
Robert
was
saying
that,
but
but
the
bottom
line
is
we
got
to
find
a
way
to
take
care.
A
Our
citizens,
Villa
Rey,
is
short
out
there
I'm
looking
every
day
as
I
ride
through
the
neighborhoods,
with
short
on
workers,
we
need
to
get
back
to
beautifying
our
city.
We
need
to
get
back
to
manpower,
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
how
our
critical
workers
on
central
workers
we
need
to
make
sure
they
are
taken
care
of.
So
if
we
do
any
cutting
and
have
to
come
way
up
at
the
top
more
so
than
way
down
at
the
bottom,
I.
I
B
However,
there
are
creative
solutions
to
that.
For
example,
what
you
call
was
the
Deming
plan,
or
something
we
did
with
some
Public
Works,
which
helped
it
reduced
our
costs.
On
some
of
these
things,
there
are
some
we
can
create
relationships
with
private
companies
that
can
do
someone's
job
at
a
much
lower
cost
than
we
do
as
a
city.
We
just
have
to
look
for
those
opportunities
and
take
advantage
of
them,
like
we
did
with
cutting
certain
municipalities
that
save
this
labor
and.
I
B
For
for
Billy
Ray's
people-
and
we
got
it
done
at
a
smaller
cost
to
the
city,
those
are
the
things
we
have
to
be
created
about
how
we
accomplish
this
task:
I'm,
not
suggesting
laying
off
anyone
that
helps
us,
maintain
the
city
or
protect
the
city
from
fires
or
crime
or
anything.
That's
not
my
position.
My
position
is
being
more
effective
about
how
we
manage
the
money
that
we
have
instead
of
telling
our
because
we're
out
we're
out.
This
is
for
our
citizens.
We
have
to
do
this
part
for
the
citizens,
placing.
M
C
B
Hurts
the
citizens,
whether
it's
the
independent
business,
whether
it's
the
corporation
or
whether,
whether
it's
just
the
mom-and-pop
at
home
and
they're
in
their
yard.
It
affects
our
citizens
as
a
whole
when
we
raise
taxes
so
that
so
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
find
those
niche
areas
where
we
can
save
bunny
and
we
can
reduce
it
and
if
we
have
to
look
at
the
top
and
start
trimming
from
the
top
down
I'm
all
for
that
I'm
all
for
trimming.
Let's
start
trimming
as
much
as
possible.
Most.
A
Citizens
that
I
talk
to
you
know
don't
mind
paying
more
on
the
taxes
if
they
get
something
for
it
and
that's
the
bottom
line.
You
know
they
don't
mind
paying
as
long
as
they
get
there
that
if
they
get
what
they're
paying
for
and
and
that's
the
biggest
thing
that
I
see
out
there
today,
people
are
not
getting
what
they
paying
for
well,.
B
With
all
due
respect,
they
should
get
what
they're
paying
for
and
what
they're
paying
for
now
is
no
different
than
what
they
would
be
paying
for.
If
they
paid
more
money,
the
amount
of
money
they're
paying,
doesn't
change
the
amount
or
quality
of
services
they
should
be
getting
from
the
city,
they've
been
paying
taxes
and
they
should
have
been
getting
those
taxes.
B
We
need
to
reduce
what
we
do
fiscally,
so
those
people
can
get
those
services
that
you're
talking
about
they're,
not
getting
them,
because
we
have
been
for
far
too
long
and
I'm,
not
blaming
your
administration
alone,
I'm,
blaming
this
council
and
all
the
prior
administrations.
For
far
too
long,
we
have
been
not
responsible
enough
with
what
we've
done
with
money
coming
in
and
going
out
and
I'm
as
I'm
at
fault
just
as
much
as
everyone
else's.
That's
had
any
leadership,
so
that's
something
we
have
to
grasp
and
we
have
to
take
ownership,
but.
A
I
M
K
E
Are
some
unique
one-time
things
this
year
that
weren't
there
last
year
there
is
a
new
fire
station
that
we
have
to
stay
on
staff,
that's
nine
bodies.
There
are
two
fire
trucks.
It's
the
beginning
of
a
long
string
of
fire
trucks
we're
going
to
have
to
buy
overtime
there.
There
there's
the
replacement
of
15-20
percent
of
our
police
vehicles
that
are
worn
out.
E
I
mean
there's
some
there's
some
things
that
are,
you
know
hitting
us
for
the
first
time
we
you
know
we
a
fire
station,
two,
two
fire
trucks
in
a
and
nine
firemen,
that's
nuts,
not
cheap,
and
that
we,
but
the
only
way
to
reduce
fire
costs
is
to
change,
is
to
close
a
fire
station
which,
which
will
drive
our
insurance
rates
up.
Okay,.
B
So
what
about
taking
that
bond
and
taking
some
of
the
mayor's
wants
off
that
bond
and
and
subsidizing
the
fire
station
for
some
of
these
one-time
costs?
If
it's
not
a
reoccurring,
cost
that
we're
going
to
face
down
the
road
every
single
year,
then
the
bond
is
appropriate
for
that
and
that's
what
we
should
use.
We
should
be
paying
with
money
that
we
have
now
for
things
that
we
need
now
is.
I
B
Long
as
it's
not
a
residual
expenditure,
if
we're
paying
for
using
the
bond
to
pay
for
something
that
we're
gonna
have
to
try
to
cover
every
single
year,
no
that'd
be
irresponsible,
but
we
have
the
bond
already
and
we
have
a.
We
have
a
bunch
of
once
on
that.
So
maybe
we
need
to
redirect
some
of
those
warrants
to
pay
for
needs
that
are
one-time
costs,
so.
L
L
I
B
J
L
I
L
L
J
E
L
L
F
F
B
Jody
I
didn't
mean
to
offend
you
and
I.
You
know
I
love
you,
but
but
that's
not
the
fact
that
I'm
talking
about
I'm
not
talking
about
independent
positions,
that
we're
hiring
that
stuff
the
cost
of
a
vehicle
that
we
have
to
get.
That's
not
fat.
That's
not
the
fat
I'm.
Talking
about
this
is
a
sixty
something
million
dollar
budget
that
is
de
minimis.
In
this
grand
scheme
of
the
entire
budget,
there
is
tons
of
fat
in
other
places.
B
Besides
what
you're
talking
about
this
is
a
sixty
three
million
dollar
budget
that
we
have
to
look
at
as
a
whole
I'm,
not
pinpointing
one
purchase
or
one
position
I'm
talking
about
it
as
an
aggregate
everything
in
it.
There
is
tons.
We
didn't
go
from
58
to
64
because
of
one
thing:
we've
gone
because
we're
increasing
top
level
positions
we're
giving
10%
raises
to
people
we're
doing
things
like
that
that
we
have
to.
We
have
to
look
at
and
trim
back.
That's
we're
creating
department
heads
which
we
did
a
few
years
ago.
B
I
L
At
ten
thousand
here
and
ten
thousand,
there
adds
up
a
lot
and
that
you
have
in
two
years
we
increase
CTA
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
then
you
go
to
the
library
system.
We
gave
them
an
additional
twelve
thousand
last
year
and
they're
asking
for
an
additional
whatever
thousand
this
year,
and
if
you
go
and
look
immense,
the
city
of
Gulfport
sure
they
only
have
two
libraries.
L
You
look
at
Harrison
County,
it's
the
Harrison
County
Library
system
inside
Harrison,
County
and
they're,
not
giving
them
more
this
year,
they're
cutting
their
budget
this
year
and
so,
and
we
just
I
think
that
we
take
the
easy
route
too
many
times
and
just
say
yes
to
all.
These
asks.
I
meant.
We
have
a
museum
and
I
know
that
this
is
touchy-feely,
but
we
have
au
Museum,
that's
losing
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
a
year.
L
Yet
we
and
we
repeatedly
give
them
an
absorbent
amount
of
money
every
year
on
an
electrical
I
mean
who
spends
ten
thousand
dollars
a
month
on
electricity
and-
and
that's
just
and
you
start
adding
those
things
up
in
ten
thousand
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
here,
and
there
adds
up
to
a
lot
of
money
and
so
I
think
that
we
start.
We
need
to
take
a
serious
look
and
and
I
agree
with
you.
I
know
that
70%
of
this
is
to
is
to
personnel
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
can
close
this
whole
amount.
L
I
B
So
here's
the
way
my
company
works,
okay
and
I
have
four
different
locations
and
I
have
a
managing
each
wonderful
and
I.
Look
at
the
budget
and
I
say
here's
what
your
budget
is
figure
it
out.
If
you
can't
figure
it
out,
I'll
step
in
or
I'll
bring
someone
else
in
that.
Can
you
have
directors
give
them
a
budget
figure
it
out,
get
down
figure
out
how
to
get
10%
down.
Okay,.
E
B
B
D
B
It
way
back
to
almost
four
that
whole
page
says
zeros.
Now
we
stopped
accepting
applications
or
some
giving
money
to
groups,
but
he's
right
we
got
a
look
at
this
is
like
Kevin
comes
in
and
asked
for
an
increase
or
a
decrease
of
ten
thousand.
When
he's
just
increased
its
fifty
or
sixty
thousand
for
a
service
that
he's
no
longer
providing
anymore,
that's
the
stuff.
We
can't
do
that
and
he's
right
when
you
look
at
the
libraries.
Those
positions
are
things
we
have
to.
B
We
have
to
look
at
them
to
say,
I'm,
sorry,
don't
beat
up
Gulfport
and
go
beat
up
the
county
if
you
were
giving
a
disproportionate
amount
of
money
for
the
services
provided
to
the
entire
county,
and
that's
not
right,
I
think
that
that
you're
right,
we
don't
have
a
consensus,
and
if
the
administration
would
ask
us
to
put
something
together,
I'd
be
happy
to
the
head
of
committee
with
mr.
Barrett,
if
he'd
be
willing
to
to
look
at
non
departmental
and
make
a
recommendation.
A
I
think
I
think
I
think
we
didn't
got
way
off
track
here.
We
didn't,
we
read
them,
we
didn't
get
got
to
go
on
in
a
circle
with
the
helm,
stone
the
wheel.
Now
you
know
we
need
to
get
back
to
the
budget.
I
mean
I,
understand
what
you're
saying
Nathan
hit
those
points
about
the
CTA
we
hit
it.
We
know
what
we
need
to
do.
Let's,
let's
do
it,
let's
go
ahead
and
go
through
I
understand
what
she
was
trying.
A
I
A
B
O
D
E
B
K
P
P
You
know
after
Katrina
and
they've
been
living
off
of
that
for
many
years.
Like
I
said
every
other
year,
the
expenditures
has
been
over
the
revenues
and
what
has
happened
that
sixty
million
dollars
drained
down
to
next
to
nothing
now
and
there's
nothing
there
to
draw
upon
okay,
we
can't
count
on
it.
I
can
tell
you
what
I
told
dr.
Tisdale
one
day.
I
said
y'all
need
to
remember
this
this
year,
because
it's
not
going
to
happen
again
for
a
long
time.
P
We're
not
going
to
have
another
good
year
like
that,
we
had
a
real
good.
We
were
fortunate.
Last
year
we
had
a
real
good
revenue
side
and
we
saved
on
the
expenditure
side
just
from
actual
to
budget
and
like
I
said
even
auditors
commented
to
me
about
it.
That's
first
time,
we've
seen
that
many
many
years
and
so
we've
been
live
in
offered
us
what's
considered
surplus
money
for
years
and
years.
Well,
that
surplus
is
gold,
and
so
here
we
are,
another
thing
is
like
they
said:
70%
of
the
budget
is
personnel.
P
60%
of
the
total
revenue
budgeted
figure
is
public
safety
cost
sixty
percent
of
that.
So
you
got
those
two
things:
70
percent
personnel,
sixty
percent,
Public,
Safety
and
I-
know
y'all.
Don't
want
to
touch
that.
That's
a
huge
amount.
We
can
sit
here
and
make
pic
over
whether
we're
gonna
do
cost
so
this,
and
that
if
you
guys
lose
that
effort
all
the
giving
you
might
get
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
the
most
them
we're
still
three
million
dollars
in
the
horse.
P
P
We
got
to
take
it
out
of
fund
balance,
we're
fortunate
enough
that
the
number
that
we
budgeted
in
fund
balance
the
beginning
year
last
year
was
only
what
we
ended,
but
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case
this
year
and
I
told
my
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
the
council
and
go
hey.
You
got
to
have
this
I
mean
it's
got
to
be
bad.
It's
got
to
come
out
of
fund
balance
because
you
can't
run
a
deficit
budget.
The
only
thing
that's
keeping
us
from.
E
To
be
the
conservative
one
and
to
be,
if
you
will
pessimistic
at
the
outcome,
he
says,
maybe
I'll
be
able
to
do
what
we
did
this
year
again
next
year.
I
think
we
will
be
able
to
do
it.
I
think
will
exceed
our
revenue
and
I
think
we'll
manage
to
come
in
our
under
under
our
expenses,
so
we
can
close
the
gap
during
the
year.
We
we've
done
that.
The
last
two
years
I've
been
here,
we've
been
able
to
close
that
gap.
B
B
P
So,
they're
being
optimistic
in
just
about
every
account
in
this
budget,
one
of
the
things
is
which
I'm,
okay,
with
we're
budgeting
additional
sales
tax
and
what
they
say.
But
one
thing
that's
not
being
connected.
There
is
two
hundred
fifty
three
thousand
dollars
out
of
our
current
taking
them
for
sales
tax.
It's
got
to
come
out
of
that
account
and
go
towards
that
TIF.
The
Walmart
second
TIF,
which
is
totally
non
sales
tax.
P
Well,
that
money
that
was
being
generated
from
that
Walmart
tear
was
going
in
the
Journal
of
phone
sales
tax
account
that's
two
hundred
fifty
three
thousand:
it's
got
to
come
out
next
year.
It
will
be
out
of
there
fill
it
out,
that's
something
to
pay
the
bond
issue
to
pay
whatever,
but
even
having
said
that
there
Benjamin
to
increase
for
next
year.
All
throughout
this
budget
we've
changed.
Some
numbers
like
I,
said
and.
B
B
P
B
I
I
L
L
L
G
L
I
know
that
we
don't
have
the
right
to
do
that,
but
we
can
go
to
that
department
and
say:
hey
we're
going
to
cut
this
department
by
this
amount
and
whatever
the
director
of
that
department
is,
and
we
can
make
a
recommendation
on
that
employee
number,
not
a
name
necessarily,
and
we
can
make
a
recommendation
and
either
that
they
can,
if
we
cut
it
by
that
amount
that
department
director
can
decide
what
they
want
to
do
with
that.
Whatever
dollar
amount
cut,
it
is
councilman.
E
I'm,
just
a
change
of
subject
for
a
minute
I
one
of
the
things
you
said
a
few
minutes
ago.
I
just
want
to
caution.
You
talked
about
taking
money
out
of
the
capital
projects
budget
and
putting
it
into
day
to
day
operations.
The
bond
money
that
was
Robert
I
would
give
you
the
one-word
answer
to
that.
Pascagoula.
Yes,.
B
I
G
G
If
the
millage
was
about
what
it
was
back,
then
we
wouldn't
be
talking
about
this
issue,
but
Gaming
came
in
generates
a
lot
of
revenue
and
in
96
to
97
it
was
lowered
and
lowered
again
lowered
again
till
we
leveled
off
at
thirty
point
one
Mills,
which
is
where
we
are
now
so
in
the
proceeding.
What
is
that,
18
years,
this
figure
I,
don't
know
what
the
rate
of
inflation
is
a
point.
That's
18
percent
right.
There
just
think
about
I
know
on
the
insurance
committee.
G
We
were
talking
about
how
much
money
has
been
set
aside
to
fund
from
the
administration
to
fund
the
health
insurance
and
that
that's
not
gone
up
in
10
or
11
years.
According
to
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
we're
dealing
with
an
insurance
right
issue
right
now,
right,
George
I
mean
in
trying
to
get
that
right.
G
G
What's
how
much
you
spent
what
spent
and
when
it
spent
is
through
the
administration.
So
you
know
you
want
to
look
at
our
revenue
over
the
past
four
or
five
years.
The
only
year
it's
been
above
sixty
million
in
the
last
five
six
seven
years
is
when
we
got
the
BP
money
that
we
use
for
the
Economic
Development
Security
Fund,
we
save
little
money.
This
year
we
spent
a
million
and
a
half
less
than
anticipated
I
mean
that
comes
at
a
cost.
G
G
But
the
expenses,
the
expenses,
whatever
we
budget,
when
you
look
at
when
the
dust
settles,
what
we
actually
spend
is
always
less,
because
the
administration
does
what
they
have
to
do
to
keep
the
cost
down.
You
can
only
do
so
much
with
the
money
we
have
now.
I've
always
asked
these
three
questions.
When's.
The
last
time
we
had
a
millage
increase.
I
just
answered
that
for
you.
What
does
the
mill
generate
ten
dollars
per
year
per
hundred
thousand
of
assessed
value
on
the
house
and
what
is
I
can't
remember.
G
So
when
I
talk
with
folks,
if
it's
something
they'd
like
to
see
done
in
their
neighborhood
they'll
tell
me,
I
can
live
with
a
tax
increase
for
that
I'd
go
along
with
the
taxing
people
want
to
see
services.
They
want
to
see
things
done.
When
you
look
at
how
many
people
we
had
each
of
these
departments
ten
years
ago
and
how
many
you
have
now
and
if
you
have
fewer
people,
I'm
thinking
in
public
works,
something
breaks,
it's
got
to
be
fixed,
you
gotta
fix
it.
G
E
M
D
B
Because
we
gave
40
$100,000
raises
it's,
because
we
did
other
things
when
you
talk
about
a
value
in
millage
property
values
are
going
up
right
now,
which
would
increase
our
millage,
which
would
increase
revenue
because
that's
what
it's
based
off
of.
Also
when
you
talk
about
expenses
going
up,
our
revenues
have
changed
as
well.
Our
budget
has
grown
it's
not
just
that
in
1996.
They
didn't
have
a
sixty
three
million
dollar
municipal
budget.
This
has
incrementally
increased
as
well
as
revenues,
because.
I
B
What
we
start
doing
is
providing
more
services
than
what
we
can
afford
to
provide,
and
so
what
Paul
Tisdale
alluded
to
is
I
talk
to
people
in
my
neighborhood
and
they
say
I
had
agree
to
raise
taxes
for
that.
The
problem
is,
they
agree
to
raise
taxes
and
that
still
never
gets
done.
That's
the
problem
is
what
we're
doing
is
we're
talking
about
raising
taxes,
to
provide
services
that
were
already
providing
we're,
not
talking
about
raising
taxes,
so
we
can
provide
new
services
if.
L
We
raise
it
if
we
raise
the
taxes
and
close
this
four
million
dollar
gap,
we're
closing
a
four
million
dollar
gap,
we're
not
giving
anything
additional
then,
what's
on
this
piece
of
paper
here,
so
raising
taxes
is
not
the
solution,
there's
nothing
additional
being
given
by
four
million.
Even
if
we
raised
it
to
close
the
complete
formula.
B
P
Another
one
point:
three:
seven
five
is
an
accounting
entry;
basically,
okay
for
the
lease
purchases
that
I
spoke,
I,
don't
know
if
all
of
y'all
were
here
the
day
that
I
spoke
about
the
lease
purchase,
the
accounting
for
the
lease
purchase.
In
other
words,
it's
a
war
SH
there's
a
revenue
figure
for
one
point,
three,
seven
five
and
then
there's
the
amount,
that's
going
to
add
to
the
asset
that
really
covers
the
whole
lease
period,
but
because
we
have
to
count
the
last
leaf'
we're
putting
a
budgetary
figure
all
in
this
first
year.
B
P
P
L
P
P
B
I
B
E
B
B
B
H
L
B
E
E
B
I
F
Now,
when
you
look
at
the
total
difference
between
the
revenue
of
the
expense
as
it
relates
to
the
not
without
the
non-departmental,
just
the
department's,
which
means
the
people
that
work
here
all
right,
it's
a
2.8
million
dollar
increase
that
includes
9,
safer,
grant,
firefighters,
firefighters,
that's
going
to
be
reimbursed
at
75%
all
right.
It
also
includes
of
about
I,
think
John
10
13.
F
We
had
to
make
we
had
we
had
to
rehire
him,
we
didn't,
we
budgeted
him,
you
space
them
out
the
way
we
hire
them.
This
is
for
the
full
year.
Then
you
have
16
vehicles,
then
you
have
pers.
Then
you
have
some
capital
outlay
items.
Okay,
he
mentioned
that
capital
outlay
items
as
follows:
public
works
just
one
hundred
fifty
thousand.
F
F
F
Mr.
Leonard
had
told
you
weren't
here,
but
he
gave
a
little
overview
that
it
was
2
percent
pers.
You
had
the
principle
interest
for
the
firehouse
number,
seven
principal
and
interest
for
two
fire
trucks:
nine
firefighters,
16
police
vehicles
to
in
parks
vehicles,
one
in
engineering
150,000
in
Public,
Works,
44,000
and
legislative
for
the
sound
system.
Ip
needs
$160,000
for
our
firewall
that
if
it
goes
down
the
whole
city
goes
down.
So
that
will
get
you
a
ride
about
where
you
need
to
be
councilman.
Deming
put.
K
D
K
With
those
would
you
just
give
us,
they
have
actually
numbers
that
matches
that
right
to
two
percent
is
eight
hundred
thousand
roughly.
What.
I
E
I
E
Two
non-standard
benefits
that
we're
talking
about
number
one's
called
the
accident
benefit.
That's
a
benefit
that
if
somebody
has
an
accident,
they
get
like
a
a
flag
like
you,
get
immediately,
get
a
check,
the
other
one.
The
other
non-standard
benefit
is,
is
the
hundred
percent
coverage
for
inpatient,
but.
I
E
Part
of
that
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
month
that
we
pay
yeah
I
know
it's
a
small
thing.
Well,
he
served
in
this
whole
thing.
This
whole
project
starts
with
small
things.
You
know
small
things
that
we
have
to
cut.
You
want
me
to
cut
the
mayor's
travel
budget.
I
can
cut
the
mayor's
travel
budget.
Let
me
cut
the
medical
insurance
budget.
E
K
I
B
K
There
I
know
since
it's
sitting
home
I'm
doing
good.
We
put
it
in
there
to
do
something
yeah.
We
don't
need
that.
Now
you
ready
economic
development
time.
Even
who
said
it
can
so
we
don't
even
have
somebody
run
it
anymore?
So
that's
four
million
$285,000
sitting
right
there
tied
at
two
point:
two:
eight
five
per
didn't
and
general
fund.
That's
not
got
a
balance.
I
I
K
K
I
C
C
K
E
Words,
it's
very
uncomfortable
starting
a
budget
year
with
a
four
million
dollar
gap,
even
though
we
did
it
with
a
three
million
dollar
got
the
last
year
and
a
three
million
dollar
gap
the
year
before.
So,
if
it's
going
to
take
getting
another
million
squeezed
out
of
that
to
make
you
comfortable
I'll,
do
that.
G
B
B
B
I
B
I
B
B
Of
hoping,
we
can
tread
water
every
single
year
and
put
money
in
a
magic
fund.
That's
going
to
create
some
economic
surplus
down
the
road
that
hasn't
generated
any
fruition.
All
these
little
things,
these
projects
that
we've
done
and
we
continue
to
pump
money
into,
haven't,
bore
out
any
real
revenues
or
generated
anything
down
the
road.
It's
just
been
an
expense
and
so
I
think
that's
a
great
opportunity
to
address
those
types
of
things
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
the
future.
George
good
call
and
bringing
that
up
great
Wow.
K
B
D
I
I
I
I
P
P
B
B
D
B
Could
decommitted
immediately
I
mean,
and
that
would
return
that
amount
to
our
budget
I'm,
just
saying
that's
a
possibility,
we
could
I
don't
know
about
the
housing
grants.
I
think.
Has
there
been
some
work
on
the
housing
grants
already
right?
Has
there
been
anything,
can
we
decommitted
or
is
that
already
in
the
process-
I'm
not
going
to
say
that
we
should
attempt
to
D
committer,
walk
back,
something
that's
been
started
already.
K
B
That
it
wouldn't
be
the
maximum,
so
I
mean
there's
an
opportunity
to
even
remove
some
of
that
and
spread
it
on
things
that
we
need
immediately.
Just
a
suggestion.
Felix
I
know
you
grabbing
the
mic,
because
I
talked
about
the
housing,
but
it
just
it's
just
a
suggestion
and
I'm
not
even
suggesting
that
we
D
commit
that.
But
there
is,
there
is
a
1.5
balance
in
that
fund.
That
would
go
towards
helping
some
of
these,
these
capital
expenditures
that
we
really
need
to
address
right
now.
A
L
L
E
K
K
E
I
said
we
put
fifty
thousand
in
the
budget
for
sale
or
property.
We
can
probably
do
better
than
that.
We've
put
125
thousand
dollars
in
the
budget
for
running
the
new
ticket
booth
at
the
parking
lot
on
and
down
in
the
Margaritaville
area.
That's
in
the
budget,
so
you
know
we're
we're
trying
to
find
those
opportunities.
So
we
have
to.
We
have
to
build
it.
G
I
E
In
and
and
scrub
the
non
Department
list
I'd
be
happy
to
work
with
you
on
that
I
I
know
I
can
through
capital
equipment
mostly
that
I
can
get
an
easy
1
million
dollars
out
of
the
budget,
but
again
we're
betting
on
the
we're
bet
in
the
future.
On
the
on
the
next
year,
we
can't
drive
the
same
equipment
forever,
but
I
can
get
a
million
dollars
out
that
budget
on
capital
equipment.
I
can
trim
some
of
the
department
budget,
some
of
their
admin
costs
and
so
forth.
L
E
E
E
At
you
know
the
the
big
three
ad
valorem
sales
gaming
that
makes
up
60%
of
our
budget,
we're
a
but
we're
at,
or
are
just
slightly
above
budget
right
now,
with
ten
periods
out
of
twelve.
So
we
will.
We
will,
unless
we
have
a
just
a
storm,
every
every
sentence
and
a.
But
you
know
that's
that's
a
given
unless
we
have
a
storm.
B
G
E
D
E
Ten
right
on,
but
our
above
budget
we're
right
on
for
gaming
for
ahead
of
the
budget
on
ad
valorem,
we
had
a
budget
on
sales
tax,
so
we
are
going
to
exceed
revenue
for
this
year
and
and
and
our
expenses
is
going
to
come
in
less
than
budgeted
expenses,
so
they'll
they
will
be
a.
There
will
be
some
income
cash
growth.
E
E
K
I
E
That's
the
big
picture
right
now.
That's
a
really
really
big
picture,
beginning
cash
balance,
eight
million
six
million
in
revenue
and
that's
where
we
are
at
six
million
in
change
on
revenue,
sixty
four
million
and
expenses
and
finishing
the
year
with
cash
balance
of
four
four
million.
That's
gross
so.
E
Q
E
Are
all
useful
ideas?
Councilman
Deming,
you
know
you
talked
about
enterprise
funds.
The
beauty
of
the
Lord
at
works.
We're
fund
is
that
the
council
had
the
guts
four
years
ago
at
the
beginning,
it
actually,
at
the
end
of
the
last
council,
to
increase
our
rates,
our
water
rates
very
very
slightly
the
fourth
year
that
increases
this
year.
This
is
the
first
year
in
many
many
years
that
we
actually
made
money
in
water
sewer
and
we're
actually
able
to
go
out
and
do
projects
out
with
the
money
that
we
made
and
not
have
to
borrow.
E
We
have
five
water
sewer
loans
that
over
time
there
have
been
borrowed
so
that
we
could
do
water
sewer
and
we
were
happy
with
for
once,
we're
actually
doing
the
work
ourselves.
So
we
you
know
that.
That's
that
that's
the
beauty
of
those
enterprise
confronts
you
talk
about.
You
know,
I
mean
the
fire
chief
told
us
that
he's
going
to
need
in
you
know
another
half
dozen
fire
trucks
and
our-
and
you
know-
maybe
not
in
this
council's
time,
but
perhaps
in
the
next
council
I.
I
I
B
J
K
B
E
Yeah
yeah
one
of
one
of
the
interesting
things
about
those
both
of
those
enterprise
funds.
Is
they
pay
back?
They
pay
back
into
the
general
fund
over
a
million
dollars
back
into
the
general
fund
from
the
water
sewer
import
funds,
so
they
act
like
a
business
and
they
pay
their
administrative
costs
back
to
the
city.
E
B
E
G
So
that,
just
to
remind
everybody
who
may
not
have
made
all
of
these
budget
workshops-
and
they
are
riveting
the
next
time
we'll
be
able
to
look
at
a
bond
issue-
it's
not
for
a
couple
of
years
simply
because
we're
weird
right,
yeah
we're
we're
so
the
next
couple
of
years
we're
going
with
what
we
approved
in
the
2019
Series
at
fourteen
million
dollars.
How.
E
K
I
K
L
M
L
I
L
E
B
We
could
cut
a
million
and
a
half
off
and
I
think
if
he
gets
it
down
to
three
and
he
believes
that
our
revenues
are
gonna
exceed
where
they're
at
and
the
expenditures
are
gonna,
be
reduced
to
the
extent
that
they
were
last
year
and
keep
it
under
that
margin,
then
we'll
be
able
to
exceed
our
expenditures
via
our
increased
revenues.
That's
what
you
believe
the
project,
the
projectory
of
of
what
your
expenditures
are.
Expenses
are
over
the
year
right
I
mean
you're,
saying
that
you
were
able
to
save
us.
B
D
B
I
think
I
think
that
your
estimation
of
what
collectively
the
council
feels
may
be
correct.
I
think
that
looking
at
your
performance
last
year,
in
being
able
to
reduce
your
projected
expenditures
to
below
what
our
actual
revenues
were,
doesn't
give
me
any
belief
that
we
should
raise
millage
if
you're
able
to
to
recreate
that
same
thing
this
year.
Why
would
we?
Why
would
we
increase
revenue?
I
mean?
Why
would
we
increase
in
the
military.
K
B
K
You
know
we
talked
about
trying
to
raise
it
all
the
employees,
two
percent
at
least
or
maybe
three
percent,
and
now
you
four
million
dollars
out
I
mean
that's
once
again:
they're
not
gonna,
get
to
raise
enough.
That's
why
you
try
to
protect
the
insurance
and
everything
else,
we're
doing
to
protect
the
employers.
The
best
you
can
I
mean
city
is
run
by
the
employees
and
what
they
do
it
makes
us
go
they
do
it
and
directors
will
to
run
them.
That's
how
the
system
works.
K
So
we
get
people
our
systems,
not
working
and
shame
on
the
directors.
We
get
people
not
doing
the
job.
I
mean
I,
really
don't
know
I'm
not
here.
Every
day
we
have
six
on
some
employee
somebody's
working,
oh
somewhere,
to
pay,
not
plenty
money,
but
it's
always
been
seven
percent
of
the
budget.
Some
sort
of
budget
and
Poor's
has
always
been
that
something
that's
all
part
of
it.
So,
once
again,
we're
gonna
sit
him
not
raise
employees.
Once
again,
you.
D
K
K
K
B
O
K
K
You
sound,
like
the
residential
people,
they've
been
trying
to
get
result
that
standard
playing
for
19
years,
because
you
never
have
to
go
back
to
would
take
it
on
a
night
and
I
stand
at
plant
and
yes,
there's
some
things
in
there.
That's
good
and
somebody's,
not
so
good,
but
the
insurance
people
been
trying
to
get
rid
of
that
stated
plan
for
19
years
Mike.
Could
they
don't
like
it?
It's
too
good
of
a
program
for
the
city.