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From YouTube: City council meeting 11 17 2020
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Biloxi City Council held a regular scheduled meeting on Tuesday, Nov. 17 at 1:30 p.m. at Biloxi City Hall. To see the meeting agenda, visit https://www.biloxi.ms.us/agendas/citycouncil/2020/111720/111720agenda.pdf.
A
I'm
sorry
I
have
to
I
want:
do
we
have
a
motion
to
move
within
the
rules
to
amend
the
agenda,
I'll
move
it.
E
To
our
policy
agenda,
we're
substituting
item
4b
ordinance
pertaining
to
cemeteries,
we're
removing
item
4c
for
two
weeks.
The
resolution
with
concerning
the
platform,
the
cemetery
to
our
consent
agenda,
we're
adding
a
substitute
for
5h
the
present
only
for
tax
folder.
Amendment
number
9
through
the
master
services
agreement
with
cdm
smith
and
we're
also
adding
5-0
resolution
continuing
a
state
of
emergency
for
hurricane
zeta.
A
C
C
I
think
the
crowder
gulf
has
been
doing
a
pretty
good
job
in
visiting
all
areas
of
the
city
of
the
200
000
cubic
yards,
estimated
that
they're
60
000
plus
at
this
point
in
time,
a
couple
of
consolidation
or
or
yards
at
areas,
one
over
by
over
uvar
site
and
one
in
off
of
pop's
ferry,
I
believe,
are
happening
and
so
they're
going
taking
most
of
the
vegetation
and
grinding
it
down
to
about
four
to
one
before
it
goes
to
landfill.
C
I
think
they're
making
passes
throughout
the
city
on
separate
trucks
to
get
the
construction
debris
hard.
You
know
things
that
are
not
vegetation
and
placing
that
in
the
landfill
too,
so
those
things
are
moving
along
of
the
the
buildings
we've
had.
We've
got
reviews
from
our
both
side,
insurance
folks,
as
well
as
fema
and
mima
in
process.
C
So
we're
you
know
trying
to
get
the
final
figures
as
we
plug
forward,
and
you
know:
there's
some
cash
flow
consideration
on
on
what
we'll
pay
for
and
and
how
long
it
will
take
for
reimbursement
but
we're
you
know
this
is
not
the
first
first
occasion
of
this
sort
of
thing.
But
it's
again
we
dodged
four
bullets,
but
we
just
had
our
number
on
us
this
time
and
and
we'll
get
through
this
one.
C
C
You
know,
thinking
of
those
folks
that
had
a
category
five
I
think
last
night
in
nicaragua,
I
guess
that's
where
it
was
or
why
not,
but
anyway,
hopefully
that
season
is
done
for
us
but
knock
on
wood.
That's
about
it!
As
far
as
my
report,
but
I'd
like
to
ask
jonathan
juba
to
come
up
and
give
us
a
report
on
the
marathon
jonathan.
F
F
Also,
because
of
zeta,
we
I'm
in
town
to
try
to
work
out
a
new
finish
line.
The
ballpark
has
suffered
a
lot
of
damage
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
to
do
so.
We
can
finish
the
race
right
outside
mgm
park,
so
we
have
some
course
adjustments
and
things
to
do,
but
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
do
that.
What's
really
exciting
is
that,
right
now
we
have
about
2,
700
runners
registered
to
come
run,
the
event
which
is
december
12th
and
13th.
F
F
The
interesting
fact
from
from
a
money
coming
into
biloxi
and
coming
down
to
the
coast,
though,
is
with
the
lack
of
other
races
around
the
country
of
the
2700
people
that
are
registered
right
now.
F
1674
of
them
are
from
out
of
state.
We
currently
have
46
states
represented
from
the
nation
that
are
coming
in.
We
have
runners
from
canada,
mexico
and
colombia
that
are
also
coming
as
well
from
the
rooms
that
we're
tracking
with
the
hotel
and
casino
partners
that
we
have
an
agreement
with
from
a
room
night
standpoint,
we
have
over
800
room
nights
booked
for
the
weekend
right
now,
which
is
far
greater
than
we've
ever
had
for
any
of
the
events
that
we've
done
previously.
So
we're
excited
about
that.
We're
happy
to
be
back.
F
As
always,
biloxi
has
been
a
great
host
city.
We
appreciate
everything
that
y'all
do
for
us.
If,
if
there's
anything,
I
can
do
or
be
of
service.
If
you
have
questions
need
some
more
information,
I'm
actually
in
town
for
the
next
two
days
so
I'll
be
here
and
I'll.
Make
sure
that
the
mayor
has
my
contact
information
if
anybody
needs
to
reach
out.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
jonathan
appreciate
you,
your
efforts
and
your
energy
and
and
keeping
this
thing
going,
and
it's
always
a
it
has
been
a
success
and
it
will
be
one
I'm
certain.
So
that
concludes
my
report.
Mr.
A
President,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
at
this
time
we'll
move
to
the
council
reports,
dr
tisdale.
Yes,.
G
There
you
go
just
with
with
this
debris,
hauling
and
pickup,
and
everything
just
in
looking
ahead,
because
we'll
have
more
of
these
storms.
Unfortunately-
and
I
suspect
the
administration
is
already
working
on
some
of
these
things,
but
I
have
some
recommendations.
G
One
would
be
a
procedure
established
so
that
the
debris
pickup
and
the
traffic
signal
replacement
or
repair
progress
can
be
tracked
and
communicated
to
the
the
public
online,
the
through
the
website
or
or
emails.
I
think
vincent
is
passing
on
what
information
he
has
just
because
those
are
the
two
questions
that
are
I'm
sure
we're
all.
G
Last
most
frequently,
you
know
when's
this
traffic
signal
going
to
be
replaced,
and
when
are
they
coming
to
pick
up
the
stuff
in
front
of
my
house
that
the
debris
removed
will
be
coordinated
if
at
all
possible
may
not
be
possible
between
the
contracted
debris
hauler
and
I'm
thinking
pelican
waste,
because
I
know
they're
passing
by
piles
and
something
this
one
stops
to
pick
up
this.
This
one
stops
to
pick
up
that
they
are
bagged,
leaves
and
yard
weights.
That
kind
of
stuff
that's
left.
G
So
I
think
in
looking
at
it
and
making
a
decision
who's
going
to
pick
up
what
sometimes
things
are
not
left
thinking
the
other
person
will
get
it
or
the
other
company
will
get
it
sorting
debris
I
think,
helps,
and
I
know
originally
we
were
told
just
get
things
to
the
curb,
but
I've
noticed
just
in
picking
it
up.
They
got
fence
parts
from
me,
which
is
great,
but
everything
else
is
still
there.
Just
like
with
most
folks-
and
I
know
they'll
get
to
me
when
they
get
to
me-
I
know
they'll
get
to
me.
G
I
just
don't
know
when
the
other
thing
I
would
suggest
is
just
I
don't
know
if
the
city
has
a
a
drone
or
a
video
drone,
but
I'm
thinking
just
the
video
footage
from
that
in
neighborhoods
would
allow
folks,
I
think,
to
see
the
difference
as
these
haulers
and
pelican
waste
come
by
and
pick
up
all
that
stuff
but
and
could
be
used.
I
guess
by
other
departments,
maybe
police,
department
or
engineering
for
other
things
than
storms
and
last
thing,
as
you
noted
mayor
next
week,
is
thanksgiving.
G
H
A
I
Lawrence
yeah,
we
had
a
few
problems
last
week
and
dealt
with
mike
leonard
and
the
mayor,
and
we
opened
up
the
commercial
harbor
though
people
had
no
place
to
park,
so
I
think
they
say
on
the
waiver.
So
a
lot
of
the
those
are
ice
boats.
They
work
short
trips
and
everything,
so
it's
all
allowed
to
come
back
in
and
made
a
about
25
or
30
little
businesses
happy.
So
that
worked
out
great
the
other
thing.
We
had
a
problem
with
the
cpm
museum
with
no
air
conditioning.
I
J
I
was
on
the
call
with
the
contractor
later
a
little
earlier
this
morning,
they're
finished
their
mitigation
effort,
which
is
getting
eight
of
the
15
units
stood
up
and
working.
The
other
ones
have
various
issues
that
they
can't
get
working,
but
those
eight
is
enough.
Given
the
weather,
we
have
that
right
now
to
keep
the
museum
relatively
at.
You
know
stable
temperature
and
such
that
the
exhibits
won't
be
messed
up.
J
J
J
We
won't
have
to
do
anything
more
than
that.
For
now,
a
lot
will
depend
on
the
insurance
and
whether
the
insurance
adjusters
allow
us
to
replace
those
units
or
whether
we
can
just
do
repairs
and
so
forth.
So
but
they're
up
and
running
now-
and
I
mean
the
story
of
the
day
at
this
point
in
a
storm
recovery
is
mitigation
mitigation.
Is
those
actions
taken
either
for
life
safety
reasons
or
to
make
sure
that
the
damage
doesn't
get
any
worse?
J
So
that's
that's
really.
What
we're
up
to,
for
example,
in
your
harbor
that
you
just
talked
about.
We
got
virtually
all
the
boats
back,
but
not
all
the
piers
are
open
because
we
can't
get
to
some
of
them
because
they're
just
too
dangerous,
so
we've
got
them
barricaded
off
and
we've
got
a
contractor.
Give
us
an
estimate.
We
probably
won't
execute
that
for
now
for
now
and
wait
and
wait
for
a
while,
because
I
think
if
we
can
operate
with
the
the
the
slips
that
we
have
that
that's
enough
to
get
us
for
now.
I
It
made
the
people
that
made
him
happy,
but
the
city
you
know
stepped
up
and
helped
them
to
take
up
any
small
business.
So
they
really
appreciated
that.
The
other
thing
you
two
say
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
those
joe
murray,
improved
pictures.
They
can't
take
the
heat
and
it's
two
of
them
like
that
worth
a
hundred
thousand
each
with
donated
to
the
museum.
So
without
the
air
conditioning
some
things
can't
make
it
that
they
have
to
be
taken
out
there,
so
that
worked
out
fine.
It
was
only
a
couple
of
days.
K
I
Some
huge
ones
hanging
on
the
walls
and,
lastly,
buffalo
like
the
day
they
come
by
my
street.
They
pick
up
all
the
trees
out
of
the
pile,
so
they
got
someone
else,
picking
up
the
leaves
and
that
they
picked
up
the
big
limbs
and
stuff
like
that,
but
they
left
like
the
leaves.
So
they
have
someone
else
following
them.
J
Well,
you
know
I've
watched
them
operate
if
they
can
get
the
leaves
they
do
pick
them
up.
Remember
they're,
working
with
a
big
scoop
and
they've
got
crews
on
the
ground
following
them
that
sweep
up
the
leaves
and
then
and
they
try
and
grab
as
many
as
they
can.
But
you
know
this
ain't
going
to
be
like
a
yard
of
the
month
when
they
get
done,
I
mean
they're
going
to
pick
up
everything
they
can
to
add
to
the
debris.
Removal
comment
just
for
ward
7..
We
just
got
off.
J
I
just
got
off
the
phone
with
what
they
they've
agreed
to
a
site
in
in
one
market
for
another
transfer
site,
they're
on
shortcut,
road
and
they're
working
our
contractors
working
up
the
permit
for
mdeq
right
now.
In
the
meantime,
we've
asked-
and
they
have
deployed
a
second
truck
into
into
ward
7,
so
that
they
can
given
that
you're
55
percent
of
the
size
of
the
city
that
we
thought
maybe
you're
a
little
short-handed
on
on
debris
trucks.
J
So
we
we've
deployed
in
one
or
two
at
least
two
trucks
to
that
ward
right
now,
and
so
that's
because
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls
from
world
market
people
have
been
very
polite.
We
understand
you're
going
to
get
to
us
just
kind
of
curious
when
so
that
second
transfer
site
will
help
speed.
The
turn
around
from
the
details
on
shortcut.
A
I
B
I
L
J
L
Thank
you,
christy
labota.
I
got
your
email
while
I
was
looking
at
it.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
traffic
delineators
were
for
the
right-hand
lane
as
you
come
down
pops
ferry
road
in
front
of
margaret
sherry
library,
those.
L
L
M
I
did
put
in
a
I
was,
I
don't
know
if
hillary
is
here,
I
was
going
to
put
in
a
p.
You
know
work
order
for
them
to
put
up
some
signage
about
those
billionaires.
You
know
right
turn
only
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
L
M
B
Thank
you,
mr
president,
I'd
like
to
thank
jonathan
for
that
report
for
the
marathon.
It's
a
great
event
we're
seeing
those
room
numbers
that
you
talked
about
into
the
hotels
and
certainly
some
of
the
complementary
income
that
you
requested
to
ensure
that
it's
a
great
event.
B
We've
got
many
events
traditionally
that,
as
I
mentioned
in
our
last
meeting,
it's
good
to
see
this
one
and
get
some
visitors
here,
and
hopefully
we
can
continue
that
and
and
fight
the
hurricane
and
the
other
things
that
we're
fighting
to
make
sure
that
they're
as
successful
as
they
can
be.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
other
things
too,
director
levitard.
Are
you
still
here?
B
I
see
you
in
the
back
just
want
to
follow
up
on
one
of
the
previous
meetings.
You
reported
that
there
was
some
damage
in
waters
view
and
that
we
were
going
to
try
to
reopen
to
see
if
the
county
could
revisit
helping
us
clear.
The
ditches
that.
M
Are
so
the
county
has
agreed
to
help
they
requested
that
public
works
if
the
public
works
supply
the
labor,
that
they
would
haul
all
the
material
off?
So
really
it's
really
a
public
works
decision.
If
they
want
to
supply
the
labor
to
get
that
done,
we've
got
the
permit
in
place,
it's
kind
of
between
public
works
and
the
county.
B
Gotcha
well,
listen.
I
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
getting
that
permit.
That
was
not
an
easy
thing
to
get.
Thank
you,
and
when
we
get
those
types
of
permits
in
place,
we
should
kind
of
try
to
follow
through
with
all
our
resources.
If
we
can
absolutely
to
clear
those
ditches,
I'm
trying
to
give
an
update
to
the
neighborhood
over
there
on
that
side
on
what
the
status
is,
and
I
told
them
that
we're
continuing
to
discuss
it.
B
Going
to
be
revisited
with
the
county,
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
and
I
know
we're
chasing
a
lot
of
the
debris
removal,
but
I
want
to
thank
everyone,
including
the
council,
for
we
passed
a
resolution
giving
six
months
relief
on
the
debris
repairs.
B
I
see
a
lot
of
people,
at
least
in
my
ward,
getting
their
roofs
repaired
and
making
fence
repairs
and
they've
expressed
a
lot
of
gratitude
to
waiving
some
of
those
the
burden
of
some
of
those
additional
expenses
to
allow
them
to
get
some
of
those
repairs
done
quickly,
and
with
that
that
will
conclude
my
report.
Mr
president,.
D
Thank
you,
mr
president,
real
quick
again,
thank
you
guys
for
the
report
on
the
debris
removal.
D
C
J
And
just
councilman,
as
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
big
trees
down
there
and
they're
on
the
list.
Community
development
has
got
pos
cut
on
all
the
trees
that
we
need
to
get
down,
and
the
tree
contractors
are
just
so
damn
busy
right
now.
They'll
get
to
them,
but
they're
on
their
pto's
have
been
issued.
D
Okay
and
and
my
thing
was
to
just
bring
attention
to
it
so
that
we
can
get
it
cleaned
up,
because
you
know
after
a
storm
a
natural
disaster,
the
natural
instinct
is
for
people
to
go,
see
their
loved
ones,
for
whatever
reason
so
just
wanted
to
mention.
That
concludes
my
report
and
happy
thanksgiving
to
everyone.
A
A
A
Okay
and
then
the
only
other
thing
that
I
have
is
a
reminder:
december
12th
we'll
be
having
the
wool
market
christmas
parade,
one
one
o'clock,
lineup
two
o'clock,
the
parade
will
start
and,
of
course,
we're
eliminating
the
social
event
at
the
end
and
implementing
some
social
distancing
guidelines
for
that.
So
we'd
like
everyone
to
participate
in
that
it's
the
end
of
our
council
report.
At
this
time,
we'll
move
to
the
public
agenda.
A
K
Yes,
sir
david
wheeler,
185
main
street
biloxi,
I'm
here
on
item
4d
on
your
agenda,
requesting
vacation
of
the
swale
easements
on
various
lots
in
elsie
place
subdivision
those
easements
are
just
paper.
Easements
they're
on
the
plat
nothing's
ever
been
done
on
the
ground.
K
K
All
of
the
I
think
25
lots
into
two
lots,
basically,
so
that
it
can
all
be
one
complex
and
we
have
some
conditional
use
application
to
approve
that
going
to
the
planning.
Commission
that'll
also
be
coming
up
to
y'all,
probably
in
maybe
later
december-
maybe
the
last
meeting
of
the
year
to
get
that
approved.
So
we
can
get
working
on
it.
A
All
right,
well,
you
if
you'll
stay
around
for
when
that
comes
up
just
in
case.
Anyone
has
any
questions
sure
that
I
am
thank
you
anyone
else
on
the
left
side
of
the
room,
anyone
on
my
right
side
of
the
room,
anyone
in
the
back
all
right,
if
no
one
else
that
closes
our
public
agenda
at
this
time,
we'll
move
to
the
policy
agenda.
A
G
Time
three
seconds
is
up
you're
drawing
everybody's
attention.
To
my
outstanding
comment.
Right,
that's
going
to
occur
is
that
the
two
minute
warning
you
may
recall:
we
had
some
discussion
on
whether
to
condition
conditional
use
would
be
prohibited
in
rm,
20
and
30..
We
had
a
lot
of
discussion
and
a
vote
on
that.
So
that's
really
no
longer
a
part
of
this
matter.
As
was
noted
in
the
resolution.
G
I
have
no
comments
that
I
haven't
made
previously
I
mean
I
can
live
with.
What's
what's
down
here
and.
O
I
N
If
you
will,
if
you'll
recall
this
was
table,
subject
to
the
workshop
that
we
had
two
or
three
weeks
ago,
and
so
all
that's
happening
now-
is
that
that
ordinance
as
it
was
written
is
being
brought
back
to
the
city
council
to
vote
on
it.
Now
the
I
guess
the
highlights
that
are
in
here
would
be
that
we've
separated
the
definition
of
short-term
rental
and
time
share
in
the
previous
ordinance.
N
They
were
kind
of
combined
together,
but
we've
taken
the
definitions
that
come
out
of
the
american
planning
association
definition
and
put
put
them
in
there
separately,
so
that
there's
no
question
about
which
is
which
the
other
change
to
the
ordinance
would
be
that
we're.
This
would
not
allow
any
existing
apartment
complexes
to
convert
over
to
short-term
rental.
Now
short-term
rental
would
still
be
allowed
in
rm-20
and
rm30
as
a
conditional
use.
N
If
someone
comes
in
and
their
proposal
is
to
design
it
to
meet
hotel
regulations,
then
they
could
build
it
from
the
ground
up,
but
they
would
not
be
allowed
to
convert
an
existing
apartment
complex
over
to
short-term
rental
and,
of
course,
the
the
last
change
that
stands
out
is
that
previously
we
had
in
there
that
short-term
rentals
shall
provide
proof
that
sales
tax
records
to
the
department
of
revenue
have
been
submitted
and
that
a
guest
register
has
been
maintained.
N
So
we've
we've
tried
to
clarify
a
lot
of
the
language
based
on
the
workshop
that
we
had
so
that
we
are
still
able
to
obtain
some
level
of
proof
that
the
taxes
have
been
paid
without
it
being
solely
from
the
department
of
revenue
that
they
can
provide
proof
that
the
taxes
are
being
paid
through
a
third
party
agency.
So.
A
I
They
have
to
follow
no
rules.
The
hotel
has
to
follow.
Well.
If
they
come
to
us,
nobody
be
there
24
hours.
Seven,
I
mean
this
is
the
same
thing
this
guy
I've
been
doing
for
the
last
year
and
the
people
area
don't
want
this
yeah.
So
all
these
little
things
you
changed.
Ain't
helped
anything,
but
they
only
have
40
short-term
rentals
somebody's
going
to
have
in
one
building.
Okay,
and
that's
that's
not
what
we're
looking
for.
I
I
G
B
N
B
B
N
People
will
still
apply
in
those
districts.
What
this
does
is
gives
the
planning
commission
to
the
council
to
consider
each
case
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
and
there
will
probably
be
some
that
you
all
feel
comfortable.
Approving
our
main
intent
here,
though,
was
to
make
sure
that
the
conversion
was
removed,
because
that's
what
we
were
running
into
the
most.
D
L
N
In
an
apartment,
complex
yeah,
they
can
request
it,
but
if,
if
this
ordinance
is
passed
it
would
it
would
prohibit
that
and
again
we're
doing
this
for,
for.
L
Let's
not
parse
the
words
and
say
they
couldn't
request
it
if
it's
banned.
If
it's
got
a
complete
ban,
I
don't
care
if
they
can
request
it.
I
can
request
the
sky,
be
painted
red,
it's
impossible
to
do
so.
It's
irrelevant
to
discuss,
but
we're
creating
standards
for
a
multi-unit
facility
that
single
units
don't
have
to
abide
by,
for
example,
the
home.
L
It
doesn't
have
to
be
built
with
hotel
standards
and
it
doesn't
require
someone
to
be
on
site,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
actual
law
that
requires
a
hotel
to
have
somebody
on
site.
Of
course,
it's
good
business
and
you
should
but
we're
creating
standards
differently
for
different
groups
of
people
in
different
places
and.
N
Well,
from
a
life
safety
standpoint
there
there
are
differences
to
consider
and
I'm
talking
about
from
a
building
code,
fire
code
standpoint
if
you're,
converting
a
single
family
house
to
a
short-term
rental,
you're
very
near
to
the
door
to
get
outside
into
what's
called
a
public
way.
It's
a
different
situation
with
an
apartment
complex
where
you
may
have
multiple
floors
and
there
may
be
a
an
extended
distance
to
be
able
to
get
to
do
fire.
N
L
We're
banning
an
entire
segment
of
that
market
economy
because
of
a
few
apartment
complexes
that
may
have
been
built
prior
to
standard
changes.
I
just
don't
see.
I
don't
see
the
the
prudence
in
that.
I
think
that,
if
that's
the
case,
we
should
amend
it
to
help
to
state
that
whether
the
fire
standards
would
have
to
be
updated
to
convert.
You
know
it.
Would
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
that
they
rebuilt
a
structure
or
substantial
reconstruction
to
meet
some
hotel
codes?
L
And
I
think
that
the
council
has
done
a
great
job
and
it's
arbitrating
whether
these
people
should
do
or
shouldn't
or
if
it's
appropriate
for
that
area
or
that
structure
or
that
development.
I'm
going
to
vote
no
on
this,
because
I
think
we've
done
a
great
job
of
delineating.
What
should
and
shouldn't
be
done,
instead
of
creating
a
complete
ban
to
prevent
those
that
should
be
allowed
that
right
from
accessing
those
rights
have
nothing
further.
G
I
want
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity,
I'd
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
what
mr
creel
said,
but
also
what
mr
lawrence
said
and
let's
take
this
development
on
briarfield.
That
was
on
the
agenda
removed
from
the
agenda
placed
on
the
agenda
again
removed
from
the
agenda.
It's
an
an
rm30,
I
believe,
or
rm-20
zone,
30.
it's
behind
a
couple
of
residential
homes.
So
it's
a
parcel
behind
homes
that
front
briarfield,
it's
40
units
and
the
developer
wants
them
all
to
be
short-term
rentals.
G
He
could
build
apartments
there.
No
problem,
that's
correct!
He
wants
to
build
short-term
rentals
and-
and
personally
I
have
a
problem
with
that,
and
so
do
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
there
and
what
I
heard
at
our
last
council
meeting
was
from
most
of
you,
and
I
think
I
pointed
this
out-
that
you
need
to
listen
to
folks
in
the
neighborhood
and
what
they're
saying
is
they
don't
mind
a
residential
setting
for
a
short-term
rental
where
it's
appropriately
zoned
and
in
the
broader
field
neighborhood?
G
I
bet
there
are
half
a
different
half
a
dozen
different
zoning
classifications
jerry.
You
may
correct
me
there,
but
it's
commercial.
It's
residential
but
again
the
rm
and
rm30
and
rm20
is
residential
and
the
fact
that,
as
mr
lawrence
said-
and
I
think
mr
crew
would
agree
to
that
when
you
build
40,
short-term
rentals
or
48
short-term
rentals
in
a
complex.
Basically,
it's
a
hotel
with
none
of
the
amenities.
G
None
of
the
I
guess,
supervision.
There's
nobody
required
to
live
on
site
that
manages
those
apartments
and
the
fact
that
there
are
very
few
folks
if
any,
that
I've
heard
from
in
that
neighborhood
that
want
a
cluster
if
you
will
or
a
complex
of
short-term
rentals,
particularly
40
of
them.
But
I
I
appreciate
you
pointing
out
that
you
could
build
a
new
complex
for
short-term
rentals.
G
A
N
N
Agricultural
is
the
standard
agricultural
zoning
district.
We
came
up
with
the
ar
actually
for
flood
purposes,
it's
called
agricultural
restricted
and
what
it
is.
It
acknowledges
the
fact
that
there
are
some
agricultural
properties
out
there
that
are
not
necessarily
buildable
properties.
If
you
look
at
our
map,
you'll
see
that
some
of
the
islands
that
are
in
the
bay
are
zoned
ar
and
because
we
change
that
zoning
designation
on
those
islands
to
ar
we
were
able
to
get
credit
points
through
the
national
flood
insurance
program
that
helped
our
rating.
N
A
Reason,
I
ask:
is
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls,
especially
in
my
ward
of
people
who
may
have
a
hundred
acres
on
the
river
and
they
might
not
have?
And
it's
it's
zoned
agricultural
and
in
no
way
does
that
piece
of
property
affect
anyone
around
them
and
they
have
a
desire
to
do
short-term
rentals
on
that
property.
A
And
so
I
would
like
to
see
the
agriculture
move
to
conditional
use,
because
there
are
some
areas
that
make
sense
on
the
river
for
agric,
for
agricultural
properties,
not
all
of
them,
and
so
we
not
a
right
by
you.
You
know
a
right,
but
as
conditional
use
where,
if
they
do
want
to
do
that,
we
could
review
that
case
by
case,
and
you
know
if
they
wanted
to
bring
that
forward.
A
So
I
would
like
to
I'll
make
a
motion
to
move
this
from
not
permitted
to
conditional
use
on
the
a
zoning
on
the
a-zone.
A
Set
you
move
agricultural
to
may
be
authorized
as
conditional
uses.
N
N
You
know
when
they're,
if
they
have
somebody
there,
the
neighbors
can't
even
see
their
house
or
or
notice
whether
there
are
people
are
coming
and
going,
and
we
actually
had
that
discussion
while
this
was
going
through
through
planning
commission
about
some
of
those
larger
lots
once
you
get
away
from
the
water
short-term
rental
is,
is,
is
not
really
an.
K
A
And
in
some
of
those
areas,
all
the
people
who
have
contacted
me
have
lived
on
the
river
and
have
large
tracts
of
land,
and
you
know
in
ward,
seven.
So
all
right,
we.
I
Gotta
suggest,
I
think
this
and
find
out
for
sure
what
you
want
to
do
with
the
agriculture
in
ar
because,
like
you
said,
you
need
to
find
an
option,
you
go
look
the
lane
yourself.
That's
your
ward!
The
only
place!
That's
got
the
40
acres
property
stuff.
We
don't
have
that
down
here,
so
you
need
to
find
out
for
sure
what
you
want
to
do
with
that.
A
N
A
N
B
I
G
A
new
for
a
new
construction,
a
new
newly
constructed
complex,
I
think,
we've
all
been
through
in
the
past
couple
of
years,
with
condos
individuals,
condos
flipping
to
short-term
rental
and
also
apartments
within
complexes
being
flipped
to
short-term
rentals.
We've
done
that
this
issue
concerns
new
construction,
a
new
complex
for
the
purpose
of
short-term
rentals
40
48
units.
Whatever.
B
I
understand
that
what
we're
talking
today
is
about
an
ordinance
that
prohibits
an
apartment,
an
existing
apartment
from
applying
they
can
apply,
but
it
this
would
prohibit
them
from
moving
ahead,
and
you
you
mentioned
there
was
residents
in
a
particular
neighborhood
that
didn't
want
that
right.
They
didn't
want
the
they
didn't
want
that
to
happen
in
the
existing
or
they
didn't
want.
Short-Term
rentals.
G
No,
the
issue
right
now
is
there's
a
vacant
lot
and
a
developer
wants
to
build
48
short-term
rentals,
that's
what
they
object
to
if
he
built
48
apartment
units,
not
a
problem.
It's
currently
zoned
for
that
they
don't
want
48,
short-term
rentals
in
a
complex
in
the
middle
of
an
area.
That's
mostly
residential.
G
B
K
G
N
That's
correct
and
remember
too,
that
if
it
comes
to
us
and
the
intent
is
and
I'm
speaking
for
our
department,
the
fire
department,
if
it
comes
to
us
as
an
apartment
complex
with
the
intent
of
being
built
for
short-term
rental,
we're
going
to
review
those
plans
like
we
would
for
a
hotel
because
it
in
essence
it
is
a
hotel,
and
some
of
these
requests
that
we're
getting
are
essentially
to
use
your
term
dancing
around
trying
to
build
an
apartment.
Comp
build
a
hotel
under
the
guise
of
an
apartment
complex,
and
we
can't.
N
I
N
N
But
to
answer
your
question:
if
this
passes
since
he's
building
new
units,
he
could
come
in
and
apply
for
conditional
use
to
build
these
new
units
and
we're
going
to
review
the
plans
as
a
as
a
hotel,
but
he
could
continue
to
do
that
because
it's
new
all
this
is
affecting
is
any
existing
apartment
complexes
out
there
that
are
trying
to
convert
if
they're
trying
to
convert
over
to
being
used
for
a
hotel
or
short-term
rental,
then
that's
what
this
ordinance
change
would
affect.
I
I
I
mean
that's,
what's
going
to
happen
when
you
pass
this,
so
what
we're
doing
is
hurting
ourselves
again
hotel
motel.
They
can't
do
that
they
got
by
by
the
law.
They
got
to
turn
everything
in
it.
I
mean
he
deals
in
that
business.
Ain't!
No!
Getting
around
that
this
guy
here
you
have
no
shot
of
collecting
40
units
from
this
kind
of
short-term
rentals.
I
People
in
their
homes,
renting
out
their
homes
period,
now
they're
all
making
it
to
hotel,
motels
and
everything
else,
and
that's
not
what's
the
purpose
of
the
original,
short-term
wheel,
stuff
you're,
creating
a
problem
yourself
by
saying:
oh
yeah,
everybody
can
do
this
now
you
take
four
four
duplexes
turn
on
short-term
real.
That
was
never
the
purpose
of
short-term
rent
people
who
run
their
houses
out
on
the
beaches
and
that
that's
how
I
started.
I
But
once
you
open
the
door
and
that's
what
happened
now,
you
know
created
a
lot
of
problems
and
every
week
or
every
other
week
we
spend
an
hour
and
a
half
on
short-term
rentals.
There's
a
lot
of
minutes
in
the
city
we
have
to
deal
with
and
the
short-term
rooms
don't
gain
anything
for
the
city
of
biloxi.
C
I
Do
this,
it
makes
everything
worse
for
us
harder
to
collect
and
just
creates
problems
for
you,
you're
going
to
have
two
or
three
people
on
short-term
rules
and
more
expenses.
I
mean
that's,
that's
what
it's
going
to
come
to
we're
going
to
spend
half
our
time
running
down
short-term
rental
people.
So
now,
I'm
not
for
anything!
That's
going
to
help
anybody
build
a
20-year
30
unit
and
say:
oh
they're,
not
a
hotel,
but
it's
all
short-term
rental.
That
is
not
the
right
thing
for
the
city
of
blocks.
A
I
have
a
quick
question
and
then
I
think
dr
tisdell
and
mr
deming
has
something
so.
The
reason
we're
that
this
language
is
like
it
is
is
we're
trying
to
prevent
current
apartments
or
new
construction
from
converting.
Basically,
the
new
construction
come
from
to
building
an
apartment,
to
cut
the
corners
and
then
saying
hey.
I
want
to
change
this.
To
short-term
rental.
Is
that
is
that
what
I'm
understanding
right.
K
A
So
if
someone
wanted
to,
could
we
not
instead
of
just
saying
no,
you
can't
take
your
apartment
and
do
it
and
change
it
to
a
short-term
rental?
Could
we
not
say
okay
yeah
conditional
use,
but
you
have
to
make
these
modifications
to
your
apartment
to
fit
into
the
laws
so
that
you
know
they
can't
cut
the
corners
and
say
hey.
I
didn't
have
to
do
this
this
and
this
you
know
so
they
and.
N
If
there's
a,
if
there's
a
venue
for
it,
if
there's
a
provision
for
it,
I
would
have
to
accept
that
application
now
when
it
goes
to
drc.
Yes,
we're
going
to
tell
them
that
if,
if
your
intent
is
to
do
this
and
you're
willing
to
gut
that
building
and
to
bring
it
up
to
meet
all
of
the
standards
that
we
would
require
for
a
hotel,
then
we
can
take
it
to
the
planning
commission.
We
can
take
it
to
the
city
council
and
then
they
can
make
the
decision
on
it,
but.
A
N
A
person
can
always
file
an
appeal.
If
I,
if
I
turn
something
down
in
the
office,
then
they
can
always
file
an
appeal
to
go
to
the
zoning
board
of
adjustments
and
appeals
and
then
come
to
the
city
council.
So
they
still
have
another
venue
for
getting
it
before
y'all.
If
they
disagree
with
whatever
we
decide
all
right.
That's.
G
Two
things
on
this
issue
of
flipping
apartment
units
for
short-term
rentals,
one
of
the
the
first-
if
not
the
first,
we
heard
of
this
was
the
apartment
complex,
it's
cypress
cove
was
that
the
old?
G
What's
the
name
of
the
no
cypress
coke,
but
before
that
it
was
saxony,
apartments.
N
G
Sorry
I
mean
this
is
exactly
what
we
had.
We
had
short-term
rentals
that
were
operating
off
the
grid.
You
had
the
owner
of
those
apartments
running
to
some
people,
flipping
them
to
short-term
rentals.
For
other
folks,
you
remember,
we
had
the
residents
here
and
and
all
that
stuff
I
mean
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
away
from,
leaving
that
behind
next
thing
did.
Did
I
hear
when
we
were
talking
about
agriculture
and
agricultural
restricted
zones?
Did
I
hear
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
public
hearing.
G
Use,
okay,
so
you're
looking
to
have
a
public
you'll
schedule,
a
public
hearing
on
that.
G
I
like
the
fact
in
here,
and
I
appreciate
the
matter
that
it
prohibits
converting
any
established
apartment
complex.
So
I
I
can
vote
to
support
this
because
if
we
approve
it
today,
then
that
puts
an
end
to
that.
It
still
bothers
me
that
at
this
moment
you
could
have
have
a
developer,
come
in
and
build
a
short-term
rental
complex
that
still
bothers
me.
G
L
N
We've
mentioned
it
before,
but
that's,
okay,
the
with
an
apartment,
complex,
there's
an
assumption
that,
because
people
are
living
there
for
a
long
period
of
time,
they're
more
familiar
with
the
exits
they're
more
familiar
with
the
ways
to
get
out
of
the
building.
There
are
certain
ratings
for
the
walls
on
the
inside
now,
both
are
required
to
be
sprinklered,
both
an
apartment,
complex
and
a
hotel.
N
Yes,
and
also
the
exit
lighting
is
required
for
hotels
to
help
people
get
out
of
there
quicker.
The
assumption
with
a
hotel
is
that
you've
got
people
that
come
down
here
that
are
staying
there
for
a
night
or
two
or
a
week
and
they're
not
familiar
with
those
exit
passages
and
those
kind
of
things.
So
what
these
provisions
are
put
in
there
for
or
to
help
get
them
out
of
the
building
quicker
now.
N
Now
the
what
I've
heard
on
the
cost
of
that
with
mr
zhang
was
that
that
was
going
to
cost
him
an
additional
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
but
that's
what
we
would
require,
because
the
code
requires,
because
it
is
a
commercial
operation.
If
you
take
an
apartment
complex
or
you
build
an
apartment
complex
and
you
want
it
to
be
used
for
short-term
rental,
you're,
basically
building
a
hotel,
so
the
same
code
would
apply.
You
would
have
to
do.
The
wiring
in
conduit
and
you'd
have
to
put
in
things
like
exit
exit
lights.
So.
L
N
N
L
N
Then
it's
okay,
unless
unless
they
change
the
use
of
that
building
to
another
occupancy
classification
and
when
you're
changing
an
apartment
complex
to
a
to
be
used
as
a
hotel,
that's
considered
a
change
in
occupancy
classification
and
theoretically,
when
you
do
that
you're
supposed
to
bring
everything
up
to
the
current
code.
That's.
I
I
I
N
If
the,
if
the
zoning's
correct-
and
it
usually
is-
I
mean
they
could
but
you're
thinking
of
it
in
reverse,
the
hotel
is
probably
built
to
a
much
higher
building
and
fire
standard
than
the
apartments.
Can
it
change
over
yet
because
that
would
kind
of
be
a
step
down
now.
We
would
still
review
it
to
make
sure
that
if
it's
an
older
hotel
that
it's
going
to
meet
the
requirements,
because
that
again,
even
though
they're
dropping
from
a
higher
classification
to
a
lower,
that's
still
a
change
in
occupancy
classification.
I
N
Someone
approached
him
a
real
estate
agent
approached
him
and
said
you
need
to
consider
converting
that
over
to
a
short-term
rental,
so
he
called
and
asked.
Would
I
be
able
to
do
that
and
I
said
well:
the
code
allows
short-term
rental
in
rm
30
as
a
conditional
use,
so
he
pursued
it
and
he
came
through
and
he
got
approval
from
the
planning
commission
and
got
approval
from
the
city
council.
N
Well,
that
was
the
first
time
that
it
happened
with
us,
but
we
learned
a
lot
in
that
because
it
would
open
the
door
for
other
people
to
come
in
and
say
I'm
going
to
build
this
apartment,
complex
and
then
come
in
here
at
the
last
minute.
So
well,
you
know
I've
changed
my
mind.
I
think
I'm
going
to
go
to
short-term
rental
on
this
and
I
want
to
apply
for
it.
So
you
know
they
didn't
put
in
the
fire-rated
walls
that
were
required.
They
didn't
put
in
the
conduit
that
was
required.
N
It
just
opened
a
real
bad
door
so
director.
Why?
Wouldn't
we
just
change
the
building
code
for
short-term
rentals?
We
don't
change
the
building
code.
You
know
we
have
we,
the
the
city
council,
does
not
have
the
authority
to
change
the
building
code.
It
is
a
minimum
standard.
It's
a
it's,
a
universal
code
that
is
put
together
by
code
professionals
with
the
purpose
of
life
safety,
only
not
for
political
reasons
or
flexibility.
N
Now
the
zoning
ordinance
is
our
code,
the
land
development
ordinance.
So
the
planning
commission,
the
city
council,
has
the
right
to
recommend
and
make
changes
to
those
codes
because
we
own
it,
but
even
though
we
adopt
it's
just
like
us
trying
to
make
changes
to
fema's
codes,
it's
not
our
code
to
make
changes
to.
We
either
adopt
it
in
entirety
or
we
don't
adopt
it.
So.
L
So
what
we're
doing
the
code
itself
doesn't
doesn't
have
provisions
for
short-term
rentals,
so
we're
making
assumptions
that
short-term
rentals
then
are
hotels
or
hoteliers.
L
Let
me
clarify
what
I
was
saying,
then
you're,
making
the
assumption
that
a
short-term
rental
is
more
closely
classified
to
a
hotel
and
you're
you're
attempting
to
adopt
those
standards.
However,
we
have
existing
hotels
that
don't
have
the
conduit
requirements
that
are
in
in
operation
right
now,
so
it
feels
like
this
is
a
backdoor
way
to
get
rid
of
the
project
that
we
don't
want
to
deal
with
further.
L
I
prom
I
apologize,
but
I've
you
spoke
a
lot.
I
just
want
to
get
this
out.
I
believe
a
person
living
in
a
hotel
for
one
night
and
a
person
living
in
an
apartment
complex
for
one
night.
If
we're
talking
about
conduit
lines,
maybe
I'm
ignorant
of
the
fact,
but
I
feel
like
the
electricity
runs
the
same
way
either
you
have
a
family
that
turns
the
lights
on
eats
dinner.
Turns
the
lights
off
goes
to
sleep.
L
I
feel
like
it's
used
the
same
way
now,
if
we're
talking
about
signs
to
come
in
and
out
exit,
negra
signs
to
inform
people,
that's
a
simple
fix
that
anybody
could
do,
and
I
agree
we
should.
We
should
increase
the
standards
to
make
sure
that
people
know
how
to
get
in
and
out
in
times
of
emergency.
L
Do
I
agree
that
I
think
there
are
more
that
there's
a
higher
likelihood
of
times
of
emergency
because
of
conduit
piping,
due
to
one
classification
of
a
person
being
in
a
room
versus
another
classification
of
person
being
in
a
room.
I
don't
agree
with
that
again.
I
think
it
feels
like
we're
just
we're
just
trying
to
make
a
provision
to
prevent
from
dealing
with
what
we've
had
to
deal
with
in
the
past,
which
we
are
dealing
with
appropriately.
L
We
are
taking
into
consideration
the
neighborhood
we
take
into
consideration
the
appropriate,
the
appropriate
nature
of
the
short-term
rental
and
its
location
and
its
use.
So
I
think
we
do
a
great
job
on
this
council
and
I
applaud
all
of
us
for
working
diligently
and
being
very
invested
in
our
communities
with
regard
to
short-term
rentals.
But
I
don't
think
we
should
again
ban
an
entire
segment
of
of
our
community.
That
has
the
opportunity
to
make
a
substantial
difference
in
their
own
property
with
regard
to
their
financial
potential.
F
N
One
of
the
reasons
that
this
was
brought
up
was
because
there
was
an
argument
from
some
council
members
that
they
didn't
feel
comfortable
taking
residential
living
units
off
out
of
our
inventory
apartments
and
converting
those
over
to
short-term
rentals.
They
felt
that
we
were
losing
the
places
where
the
people
actually
live
for
long
periods
of
time.
N
L
You
and
I
I
do
remember
when
there
were
members
on
the
council
that
were
worried
about
the
inventory
of
homes,
and
I
don't
think
that
was
the
majority
of
us.
There
was
a
minority
of
people
that
made
that
comment
and
look.
We
appreciate
all
the
work
you've
done
and
should
we
learn
the
rest
of
the
members
on
the
the
planning
commission
in
the
drc.
I
just
think
we
have
a
you
and
I
may
have
a
different
opinion
on
how
we
should
move
forward,
and
hopefully
the
council
will
agree
with
me.
G
Other
thing
that
I
believe
councilman
glavin
mentioned
and
that
triggered
a
thought
where
we
did
have
this
apartment
complex
that
was
built
and
at
the
11th
hour
or
after
almost
when
construction
was
complete.
The
request
was
made
for
conditional
use
and
I'm
to
me
at
that
time.
G
That
was
a
backdoor
to
getting
a
cluster
of
short-term
rentals,
but
also,
I
think
there
was
never
a
public
hearing
in
front
of
the
planning
commission
because
of
how
that
was
done
and-
and
I
don't
think
it
was
by
design
it's
just
that
when
it
came
to
the
council
as
a
conditional
use.
Now
there
was
there
was
when
it
was
constructed
as
an
apartment
complex
that
went
to
the
planning
commission.
N
G
That's
on
the
proposed
complex,
that's
correct!
Yes,
sir
all
right,
but
going
back
to
the
original,
I
mean
the
apartments
that
he
constructed
is
that
are
already
there
in
existence
that
ended
up
being.
There
were
short-term
rental
units
approved
there
right
or
the
whole
no.
G
H
I
just
think,
that's
crazy,
that
I
can
think
of
several
hotels
off
of
highlight
90s
that
I'm
not
going
to
name
that
certainly
don't
look
like
they
meet
any
codes,
specifically
any
extensive
codes,
but
it's
just
crazy
that
just
because
they
were
pre-approved
codes
and
not
updated
that
they
get
a
pass
and
let's
be
real,
these
hotels
that
we're
talking
that
I'm
talking
about
do
probably
I
don't
know
they're
really
cheap,
maybe
twenty
dollars
a
night!
I
don't
know
so
it's
like
telling
these
certain
people
that
can't
afford
a
nice
hotel
room.
A
N
Let
me
let
me
just
mention
one
thing
before
you
before
you
close
out
on
this
issue.
If
you
reject
the
ordinance
in
its
entirety,
then
you're
also
rejecting
the
requirement
to
provide
proof
of
tax
information
and
those
other
things.
If
you,
if
you
would
consider,
if
that's
the
issue,
is
the
conversion,
if
you
would
consider
removing
the
conversion
and
then
moving
forward
with
the
rest,
that
would
that
would
help
us.
A
So
that
would
be
just
what
item
on
the.
L
What
I'm
saying
could
you,
dr
creel,
could
you
work
with
the
administration
and
bring
us
just
a
clean
version
of
that
portion?
We.
A
Meeting,
okay
and
then
now
I
would
like
to
propose
a
text
change,
making
a
agricultural
conditional
use
instead
of
prohibited
and
well.
We
have
to
do
that
too.
A
I
I've
been
working
on
this
with
jeff
o'keefe,
and
we
talked
to
peter
and
peter.
I
But
I
still
have
a
problem
until
I
solo
this,
I
like
to
table
this,
and
the
problem
we
have
is
a
and
b
there's
a
couple
of
things
here.
I
think
where
you
should
have
been
able
to
permit
to
have
more
bodies
place
that
inside
of
just
one,
but
I
need
to
look
at
sitting
with
jeffree
keeps
buying
out
the
size
which
you
put
into
a
burial
site
that
did
you
see,
did
y'all
hear
the
thing
in
front
of
you,
I'm
pulling
it
up
now.
I
I
So
that's
just
something
I
needed
and
what
I
want
to
do
is
get
something
to
y'all
the
rest
of
the
council
to
look
at
it
because
it's
not
my
cemetery,
you
all
have
loved
ones
you
buried
in
there
and
you
want
to
bury
six
seven
people
there.
You
have
the
right
to
do
it.
I
think
the
limitations
we
put
on
this
is
something
brand
new,
there's
really
no
limit
to
what
you
can
bury
into
a
site.
I
You
know
people
marry
on
top
of
them,
you're
10
years
later,
bear
them
again
and
all
they
do
is
remove
the
bones
and
place
them
in
the
spot.
So
the
limitations
to
me
is
something
I
don't
think
we
out
of
line
are
doing
and
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
come
up
with
numbers
that
would
set
to
the
size
of
the
plot,
whether
10
by
10,
because
the
only
change
in
this
new
area
right
the
54,
because.
P
In
the
cemeteries
clarify,
I've
heard
your
concerns
from
last
time,
and
I
did
have
jeff
o'keefe
come
in
this
morning
to
get
his
opinion
on
some
of
these,
so
that
substitute
three
that
we
put
on
for
today.
P
I
It
didn't
change
the
numbers,
it
was
the
cremations
in
it
or
how
many
coffins
you
can
put
into
it
ten
by
ten,
what
you're
doing
you're
limited
and
on
four
by
eights
and
the
ten
by
tens,
and
it's
you
didn't
change
anything.
I
appreciate
you
talking
to
jeff
because
I
deal
with
him.
I
mean
that's
what
he
does
for
a
living.
I
So
I'm
trying
to
forget
all
the
right
things
in
in
the
right
role,
so
I
can
bring
it
to
you
all.
Let
you
look
at
what
you
can
do,
what
is
the
right
number
and
how
you
memorialize
15
people
in
a
grave
site,
whether
you
put
on
a
plaque
or
you're?
Not
you
don't
have
to
put
that
little
monument,
you
do
what
you
want
and
when
you
do
that,
then
that
creates
a
problem.
Also,
I
don't
understand
one
extra
one
mother
why
you
can't
go
above
ground
in
the
new
site.
What's
the
reason
for
that.
P
It's
just
for
maintenance
for
maintenance,
perpetual
care
and
maintenance.
There's
no
above
ground,
no
mausoleums
above
ground
there,
because
that
way
they
can
get
in
and
out
and
maintain
it
they're
going
to
be
maintaining
these
perpetually.
I
O
I
L
Get
it
done,
I
mean
I'm
hold
on.
I
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
not
a
crypt
keeper,
and
I
don't
want
to
talk
this
to
death.
So
help
me
understand.
Are
you?
Is
your
problem
with
b
with
the
cremains
and
again,
I'm
not
a
crypt
keeper,
so
cremains
from
my
layman's
perspective
is
cremated
remains.
Is
that
correct
right?
So
so
you're
opposed
to
what
about
it?
The.
I
L
I
P
P
How
many
can
I
get
into
a
ten
by
10,
I
mean,
maybe
you
could
get
20
in
there.
I
don't
know,
but
then
how
do
you
memorialize,
that
with
the
monuments,
do
you
have
20
little
monuments
or
do
you
have
a
big
monument
with
20
names
on
it?
You
know,
that's
that's
kind
of
not
the
purpose
of
this
we're
trying
to
be
consistent
with,
with
the
other,
the
graves
and
the
aesthetics
of
those
so
allowing
up
to
six
cremains
or
up
to
two
two
coffins
and
two
cremains.
P
That's
generally
the
way
it
is
now
you
may
have
a
a
coffin
and
later
on,
they'll
put.
They
may
put
a
cremains
at
the
foot
of
the
coffin
later
on,
but
so.
I
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
rest
of
the
cemetery.
You
keep
talking
about
the
minds
of
me,
I'm
dealing
with
the
cemeteries
itself
and
the
tunes
that
you
build
on
top
of
the
the
ground,
not
motherland,
not
the
ones.
You
got
all
the
people
in
there
that's
different.
Now
you
call
the
tunes
above
the
ground
in
mausoleum.
I
B
O
I
A
P
A
B
We
already
heard
from
mr
wheeler:
this
is
a
pretty
good
development,
we're
trying
to
build
out
the
rest
of
the
vacant
land.
This
will
expedite
that
and
I
think
it's
good
real
good
for
the
area.
B
L
Is
that
yes,
sir
november,
it's
the
downtown
housing
incentive
pilot
program
budget
for
the
fiscal
year
if
you'll
just
give
me
looks
like
we're
debiting
fifty
thousand
dollars
from
from
the
balance
just
give
me
an
update
on
it.
J
I
O
J
I
I
P
A
I
J
That's
the
best,
the
the
fourth
quarter,
allocation
of
port
millage
that
we
received
and
as
we
have
done,
every
other
quarter,
we
take
that
money
and
initially
we
bring
it
into
the
into
the
budget.
And
then
we
allocate
it
to
specific
projects
and
that's
what
what's
being
done
with
that.
C
J
It's
it's
375
three
times
and
then
the
fourth
quarter
they
true
up
so
that
it
comes
out
to
a
full
mill.
In
this
case
it
was
you
see
in
your
minutes
there,
it's
like
4,
4,
30
or
4
40,
something
like
that.
It's
whatever's
in
in
front
of
you,
they're
400.
Some
odd
thousand
was
the
true
up
amount
so
that
that
all
comes
out
to
2.1
million,
which
is
the
account
one
county
mill.
I
That's
good.
I
come
into
the
mill
in
the
county's
2
million
and
we
wouldn't
receive
that
much
money.
So
peter
you
know,
y'all
did
a
good
job
to
get
that
paid
every
year.
That's
that's
a
lot
of
money.
Coming
back
for
the
harvest.
That's
that's
a
good
one.
We
didn't
go
after
back
man,
that's
a
good
one!
C
A
N
N
A
N
N
A
L
N
L
Oh
wow,
I
know
we've
had
someone
come
in
here
and
file,
an
application
to
run
their
return,
their
property
to
wilderness,
or
something
like
that.
Are
you
familiar
with
what
I'm
talking
about.
N
Yes,
we
have
we've
done
that
a
number
of
times
with
the
state
of
mississippi.
You
know,
we've
been
out
having
to
clean
up
state
properties,
and
we've
asked
them
to
to.
You
know,
transfer
it
over
to
us
so
that
you
know
we
could
at
least
start
charging
taxes
to
it.
Typically,
what
they
will
do
is
if
it's
a
property,
that's
kind
of
a
nothing
property
out
on
an
alley
or
something
like
that.
They
will
transfer
it
to
us.
But
if
it's
a
property
in
a
valuable
location
they
won't.
P
As
far
as
taking
on
a
resolution
from
the
council
requesting
the
transfer
of
the
property
from
the
state
to
us,
they've
they're
pretty
good
at
ignoring
things,
but
I
think
we've
got
the
mechanism
now
to
do
that.
All
right!
Well,.
L
Correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
we've
had
private
owners
come
to
us
and
and
file
a
a
resolution
to
return
their
property
to
natural
state.
I
remember
one
coming
in
and
we
kept
charging
them
and
they
said
they're
not
going
to
build
on
it.
It's
surrounded
by
woods
and
they
just
wanted
to
return
it
back
to
woods.
N
N
Had
we've
had
people
actually
do
that
now?
Is
that
not
appropriate
for
that
location?
It
could
be.
You
know
this.
This
would
make
a
nice
little
city
park
or
or
something
like
that
at
the
at
the
end
of
that
street,
especially
since
you
can
see
it
from
irish
hill,
but
now
traditionally
what
has
happened
when
we've
been
approached
by
somebody
that
wants
to
make
the
argument
that,
well
you
know
it's.
This
is
a
natural
habitat
or
something
like
that.
N
A
I
Yeah
whoa:
what's
the
scoop
this
week,
no
change.