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From YouTube: City Council meeting, Feb. 5, 2019
Description
The Biloxi City Council held their first meeting of February 2019 on Tuesday night at Biloxi City Hall. The Feb. 5th meeting included a report from the tree committee and more discussion on short-term rentals. To see the agenda as originally published, visit www.biloxi.ms.us/agendas/citycouncil/2019/020519/020519agenda.pdf
A
B
Let
us
pause
and
let
us
pray
Heavenly
Father.
We
come
together
this
evening
to
continue
to
do
the
work
entrusted
to
our
care
for
the
good
of
all
in
this
community.
We
ask
you
this
evening
to
bless
our
mayor
and
all
of
the
councilmen,
the
council,
women.
Here
we
pray
that
everything
we
do
will
do
for
your
greater
honor
and
glory
father.
We
thank
you,
for
you
have
called
us
all
to
be
your
children
in
you
constantly
surround
us
with
signs
of
your
love.
B
We
ask
you
now
to
open
our
hearts
to
this
love
and
to
make
us
aware
of
the
fullness
of
your
peace
around
us.
We
Thank
You
Heavenly
Father,
for
having
placed
this
confidence
in
us
for
constantly
challenging
us
to
freedom
for
teaching
us
not
to
be
afraid
for
forgiving
us
and
showing
us
how
to
forgive
one
another
for
calling
us
to
build
a
community
of
faith
of
love
and
of
service
Heavenly
Father.
B
We
ask
you
now
to
open
our
hearts
to
your
spirit
dwelling
with
this
community
within
this
community,
so
that
we
might
continue
to
listen
to
your
call
so
that
we
might
continue
to
live
lives
of
service
and
of
love
and
of
commitment,
so
that
we
might
help
proclaim
justice
and
freedom
and
our
land
in
in
our
community,
and
so
that
we
might
accept
more
fully
your
word
and
always
grasp
the
mysterious
steps
of
your
love.
And
we
ask
these
and
all
our
prayers
in
faith
through
Christ.
Our
Lord
amen.
A
B
C
C
D
C
Really,
you
know
I
think
part
of
that
would
also
to
generate
the
numbers,
the
actually
measurements
and
metrics
that
they've
measured
for
us
in
order
to
gauge
and
what
you
know,
what
can
we
accomplish?
What
can
we
help
raise
this
number,
whether
it's
income
or
leakage,
or
some
of
these
other
metrics
that
we're
counting
on
in
order
to
you
know
to
generate
and
the
retail
and
some
of
these
other
things
that
the
focus
of
the
contract
was
available?
C
A
E
F
So
this
is
the
tree
committee
report,
City
Council,
February
5th
2019.
This
annual
report
is
provided
as
a
requirement
of
the
land
development
ordinance
whereby
the
tree
committee
is
determined
determined,
is
to
determine
compliance
with
replacement
and
establishment
provisions
during
the
terms
of
tree
permits
and
report
any
perceived
violations
for
follow
up
accomplishments
to
date.
F
The
tree
committee
continues
to
meet
monthly
on
the
second
Monday
of
each
month
at
the
Gulf
Coast
Community
Design
Studio
at
769,
Howard,
Avenue
and
Lexi
agenda
and
minutes
are
posted
on
the
city
website,
along
with
committee
member
contact
information
and
useful
resources.
All
tree
committee
meetings
are
open
to
the
public
with
opportunity
for
public
comment.
F
The
committee
has
established
subcommittees
for
the
following
tasks:
public
relations
and
community
outreach
and
education
and
mitigation
tracking.
The
committee
meets
on-site
whenever
necessary
regarding
tree
permit
applications
that
go
to
hearing
and
has
reviewed
and
provided
recommendations
regarding
the
following.
F
Additionally,
pedestrian
overpass
at
world
war
ii.
Memorial
no
permit
was
applied
for
this
in
case.
In
this
case,
however,
the
tree
committee
conducted
a
site
visit
with
the
city
arborist
and
provided
written
recommendations
to
the
city.
The
committee
has
established
a
Dropbox
account
for
archival
of
cases,
correspondence
and
a
and
all
official
reports.
The
committee
has
purchased
and
reviewed
the
American
national
standard,
ans
I,
a
three
hundred
standards
for
pruning
tree
shrub
and
other
woody
plant
management,
standard
practices
pruning
and
tree
pruning
the
best
management
practices.
F
The
second
edition
and
tree
hazards
produced
and
published
by
tree
care
industry
association
incorporated
the
committee
regularly
sends
representation
to
all
development
review
committee
planning,
commission
and
some
city
council
meetings,
regardless
of
whether
tree
permits
have
been
issued.
That
would
alert
us
to
attend
or
not.
This
practice
has
led
to
an
increased
number
of
tree
committee
reviews.
F
Can
the
committee
established
a
process
in
June
for
a
tree
committee
review
of
all
permits
whereby
the
City
arborist
Ford's
tree
permit
applications
to
the
committee
along
with
pictorial
documentation?
This
process
has
often
helped
the
tree
committee
to
advocate
for
the
city
when
citizens
contact
the
committee
over
over
trees
that
they,
they
see
being
removed.
Review
of
the
tree
permits
provide
us
provided
to
us,
have
also
attended
to
confirm
that
a
majority
of
tree
removals
conducted
under
the
city's
over
oversight
are
justified.
F
The
committee
has
extensively
reviewed
the
current
land
development
ordinance
as
it
relates
to
tree
protection
and
drafted
revisions
to
the
tree
committee,
section
tree
per
tree
permit
section
and
the
tree
permit
application
form.
The
tree
committee
has
met
with
the
director
of
community
development
and
City
arborist
for
feedback
feedback
and
input.
F
The
committee
has
developed
an
action
tracking
spreadsheet
as
an
internal
system
to
track
issues
and
seek
resolution
regarding
replacement
and
mitigation
requirements
and
perceived
violations.
This
spreadsheet
is
reviewed
and
updated
each
month
during
the
regular
tree
committee
meetings.
This
system
allows
the
committee
to
stay
on
top
of
issues
until
they
are
resolved
or
clarification
is
received
and
our
questions
are
answered
and
to
also
attract
fulfilment
of
mitigation
requirements.
F
The
committee
conducts
monthly
windshield
surveys
to
scan
the
for
tree
issues
and
reports
concerns
to
the
City
arborist.
Citizens
are
now
assisting
with
this
effort
reports
reporting
to
the
tree
committee
who
in
turn,
reports
the
issues
back
to
the
city,
arborist
Trane's,
the
transparent
practice
of
the
committee
receiving
all
the
permits
and
pictorial
documentation
of
trees
permitted
for
removal
has
allowed
some
concerns
to
be
dispelled.
F
Citizens
repeatedly
have
complained
about
utilities
pruning.
So
in
response
the
tree
committee,
the
tree
committee,
is
conducting
a
one-year
study
to
pictorially
document
its
effects.
After
speaking
with
Mississippi
power
and
reading
their
technical
specifications,
it
was
decided.
The
tree
committee
should
track
for
one
year
how
some
of
these
trees
are
recovering
or
not
over
time.
Photographs
were
taken
in
August
and
early
December.
This
study
is
in
its
six-month
compliance
concerns.
The
tree
committee
is
committed
to
compliance
with
the
land
development
ordinance.
These
concerns
include
one
mitigation.
F
Unfortunately,
the
following
sites
have
received
their
certificate
of
occupancy,
but
have
not
conducted
the
following
mitigation
and
are
therefore
in
non-compliance.
They
are
as
follows:
one
caterpillar
daycare,
nine
or
more
trees
to
Cedar
Lake
Circle
K
B,
the
following
sites
are
still
in
development
process.
The
trees
have
been
removed,
but
mitigation
has
not
yet
taken
place
and
landscape
mitigation
plans
have
not
been
provided.
F
One
in
nature's
trail
phase,
two
to
Blake,
assisted
living
on
Popp's
Ferry,
big
Ridge,
Road,
three
Hilton
Gardens
hotel
on
highway,
90
adjacent
to
the
Santa
Maria
site
for
La
Quinta
at
the
corner
of
highway
90
and
Hopkins
five
Davis
and
Davis
at
Marcia,
Court
peoples,
Plaza
northeast
of
2598,
Pass
Road.
Two
letters
of
conflict
addressed
to
the
mayor
were
delivered
regarding
Planning
Commission
decisions
that
did
not
uphold
the
land
development
ordinance
mitigation
requirements.
F
One
nature's
trails,
the
developers
tree
application,
was
for
the
removal
of
a
hundred
and
forty
two
trees
with
an
offer
to
mitigate
with
50
live
oak
trees.
This
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
The
tree
committee
submitted
a
letter
of
conflict
to
the
administration,
whose
result
who,
which
resulted
in
a
decision
requiring
mitigation
at
a
ratio
of
one
to
one,
which
was
an
improvement,
but
still
not
in
compliance
with
the
tree
ordinance,
which
requires
a
mitigation
of
three
to
one.
In
the
letter
of
conflict.
F
The
tree
committee
requested
a
revised
grading
plan
indicating
that
two
trees,
especially
worth
saving,
would
indeed
be
conserved.
As
the
response
did
not
address
this
question,
we
sent
a
follow-up
letter
to
request
confirmation,
but
to
date
we
have
not
received
a
response
from
the
mayor
for
the
public
record.
We
are
here
by
requesting
a
response
from
the
mayor
to
our
follow-up
letter
to
Biloxi
Beach
RV
park.
F
This
was
another
case
in
which
the
developers
offer
to
mitigate
at
at
a
ratio
of
1
to
1
was
approved
by
at
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
contested
by
the
tree
committee
with
the
mayor.
To
date.
We
have
not
received
a
response
in
our
letter
of
conflict
for
the
public
record.
We
are
requesting
response
from
the
mayor
in
this
matter
by
ordinance
tree
mitigation
reports
are
to
be
provided
monthly
to
the
tree
committee
and
annually
to
the
mayor.
Quarterly
reports
may
be
more
feasible
and
this
will
be
addressed
in
the
revisions
to
the
LDO.
F
With
the
chair
who
records
what
is
reported,
the
content
of
what
this
report
should
include
have
been
provided,
and
the
tree
committee
to
the
by
the
tree
committee
to
the
city,
arbors,
12,
stockpiling
of
materials
and
storage
of
large
vehicles
under
tree
canopies
continues
to
be
a
problem
in
Biloxi
cut
the
contractors
at
Hilton
Gardens
have
continually
stockpiled
building
materials
under
trees
and
stored
a
work
trailer
under
a
tree
canopy.
Despite
our
repeated
request
that
they
stop
this,
the
city
is
not
adhering
to
tree
protection
requirements.
F
One
example
is
the
property
on
the
corner
of
sea
lavender
and
highway.
90
construction
materials
are
being
stockpiled
under
the
tree
canopy.
However,
the
tree
committee
requests
have
resulted
in
one
case
of
tree
protection
being
corrected
at
Bay
Vista
fire
station,
where
the
city
removes
stockpiled,
aggregate
large
vehicles
and
a
large
storage
container
from
beneath
tree
canopy
tree
protection.
During
construction,
though
some
progress
has
been
made,
the
tree
committee
will
persist
in
reporting
practices
that
do
not
align
with
the
LDO
and
that
compromised
tree
health
and
that
compromised
tree
health
during
construction.
F
As
of
this
writing
treasure
Bay
continues
to
house
and
house
bulldozers
under
the
tree
canopy
north
of
the
parking
lot
they
are
constructing
tree
protection.
Fencing
is
absent
from
the
trees
at
this
site.
A
tree
permit
was
issued
in
this
case,
but
at
the
at
this
writing
the
tree
committee
has
not
received
a
copy
of
it.
Three
tree
permit
applications
site
plans.
F
Some
progress
has
been
made
by
the
persistence
of
the
tree
committee,
but
vigilance
must
be
maintained
so
that
site
plans
presented
to
the
DRC
and
Planning
Commission
are
accurate
and
complete.
Three
examples
of
incomplete
site
plans.
Tree
committee,
addressed
in
2018,
are
the
Biloxi
beach
RV
Resort
on
Veterans
proposed
Holiday
Inn
site
on
highway
90
and
the
PJ's
at
2685
Pass
Road,
standardization
of
tree
permits
and
site
plans
is
being
addressed
in
the
proper
and
the
proposed
of
of
the
revisions
to
the
LDO
Public
Works.
F
The
tree
committee
again
requests
adherence
to
the
LDO
whereby
Public
Works
is
required
to
make
application
for
tree
permits.
This
will
provide
more
communication
and
transparency
to
the
public
while
demonstrating
the
trees
commitment
to
our
protecting
our
tree
heritage.
Examples,
the
new
Keesler
gate,
the
sewerage
updates
highway
90
regarding
root
systems
of
trees
and
the
world
war
ii
memorial
for
tree
hearing
required.
As
a
note,
the
removal
of
five
or
more
protected
trees
always
requires
a
public
tree
hearing.
According
to
the
LDO,
all
tree
species
are
protected,
except
for
Pines
pecans
and
popcorn
trees.
F
So
moving
forward
as
we
move
forward,
the
city
of
Biloxi
tree
committee
will
be
looking
for
ways
to
provide
greater
supports
at
City
arborist,
as
directed
by
the
Director
of
Community
Development,
to
include
the
following.
A
comprehensive
City
beautification
plan.
Biloxi's
economy
is
based
in
tourism
as
a
great
southern
city.
F
After
a
recent
meeting
of
the
tree
committee
officers
with
the
director
of
community
development
and
city
ordinance,
our
City
arborist,
the
tree
committee
will
provide
a
map
of
opportunities
and
will
work
to
assist
the
city
in
securing
funding
for
a
more
comprehensive
beautification
plan
education.
The
tree
committee
agrees
that
the
public
education
campaign
should
proceed
our
eventual
goal
of
enforcement
of
penalties.
This
may
include
professional
workshops,
social
media
outreach
to
the
public
and
and
more
land
development
ordinance.
F
The
tree
committee
will
persist
in
with
the
process
of
making
necessary
revisions
to
the
land
development
ordinance
mitigation
tracking.
The
tree
committee
will
persist
in
efforts
toward
upholding
the
land
development
ordinance
in
terms
of
replacement
and
mitigation
requirements,
and
will
lend
support
and
collaborate
with
the
city
to
develop
a
feasible
system
that
works
for
everyone,
quarterly
reporting
to
the
city
council
going
forward.
The
tree
committee
will
report
information
on
compliance
to
the
city
council
quarterly.
If
you
have
any
questions.
B
G
For
director
Creagh
old
I'm,
listening
to
the
report,
it
sounds
like
there's
a
minimal
amount
of
progress,
but
there
sounds
like
there's
some
angst
with
the
tree
committee
that
there
is
some
conflict
with
the
LDO.
Is
that
what
you
believe
to
be
true
or
how
does
that
get
resolved,
or
how
does
that
get
missed?
Or
what
else
are
we
missing
here,
because
this
is
designed
as
a
little
bit
of
some
feedback
to
ensure
that
we're
protecting
trees
and
moving
forward
in
the
right
direction?
G
H
The
trig
committee
was
created
as
an
advisory
board,
but
has
kind
of
shifted
to
more
of
a
police
authority
and
then
advisory.
We
have
made
some
progress.
We
do
have
two
members
that
attend
the
DRC
meetings
and
have
input
into
what's
being
developed,
making
their
recommendations
and
working
closely
with
the
city
arbors.
H
H
We
do
believe
there
are
some
problems
with
the
new
ordinance
that
was
written
and
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
subdivision
developments
in
the
previous
in
the
previous
ordinance.
Subdivisions
were
not
included
in
the
tree
protection
area,
because
subdivisions
are
such
a
massive
development
project
where
the
developer
has
to
go
in
and
actually
reshape
the
topo
for
the
entire
area.
In
order
for
the
property
to
drain
correctly,
it's
a
situation
where
you
have
to
add
fill
which
is
dangerous
to
a
lot
of
trees.
H
There
are
situations
where
you
have
some
mature
trees
on
the
property
where
you
can
work
around
those
and
you
can
design
your
drainage
around
those
without
overloading
the
root
system
with
fill
that
would
endanger
it.
So
we
don't
believe
that
adding
subdivisions
to
the
ordinance
was
a
correct
procedure.
I
mean
it
basically
would
kill
subdivision
development
in
the
city
too.
To
do
that.
The
ordinance
does
not
call
for
the
committee
to
provide
the
reports
to
the
council.
H
H
They're
also
charged
with
establishing
potential
sites
for
reforestation,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
was
delegated
to
the
the
tree
community.
They
are
supposed
to
be
picking
sites
and
they're
doing
that.
But
we
had
a
meeting
very
good
meeting
and
we
were
able
to.
We
didn't
agree
on
everything,
but
we
were
able
to
find
some
common
ground
on
some
of
these
issues.
H
Now
any
recommendations-
and
we
had
asked
the
trade
committee
not
to
come
to
the
council
yet
because
any
changes
to
the
ordinance
are
going
to
require
public
hearing
before
the
Planning
Commission,
because
it's
a
text
amendment.
So
we
were
hoping
that
they
would
honor
that
request
and
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
with
the
recommendations
and
let
the
Planning
Commission
make
those
decisions
about
what
was
valid
and
let
us
make
our
arguments
as
well
and
then
make
the
presentation
to
the
City
Council.
H
I
H
There
are
some
areas
where
there's
some
overreaching,
that's
being
done
and
I'm
not
saying
that
in
a
critical
manner.
This
is
something
we're
going
to
have
to
meet
more
on.
We've
had
one
meetings
so
far
with
the
community.
I've
had
one
meeting
so
far
so
far,
but
I
think
that
we're
going
to
find
some
common
ground
on
those
but
I
do
believe
we
have
to
go
back
and
revisit
what
was
the
purpose
of
establishing
the
tree
community
and
where
those
limitations
are
drowned.
H
We
can't
have
tree
committee
members
going
out
to
construction
sites
and
shutting
down
jobs.
First
of
all,
there's
litigation
and
liability
involved
if
a
construction
job
is
shut
down
and
as
a
result,
that
contractor
is
hit
with
penalties
for
delay
in
construction.
Then
the
city
as
a
party
that
could
be
a
party
to
that
liability
involved
and
I
think
that
those
are
questions
that
we've
got
to
iron
out,
not
being
critical
of
the
trade
community.
H
I
think
they're
very
passionate
about
what
they're
trying
to
do
I
think
there's
some
confusion
about
the
advisory
capacity
versus
police
Authority
and
we'll
get
through
those,
as
we
continue
to
mate.
I
think
that
subdivisions
should
be
removed
from
the
tree
regulations,
because
it's
just
too
massive
a
project
to
do
there
is
they
developers
do
have
the
ability
to
work
around
some
of
the
trees,
but
because
of
the
limited
profit
that's
made
on
a
single-family
subdivision
versus,
say
a
casino
project
that
has
the
means
to
to
excavate
trees
and
replant
them
somewhere
else.
H
H
The
trade
committee
has
reduced
one
of
their
recommendations
where
we
were
actually,
they
were
actually
recommending
larger
replacement
trees,
which
are
hard
to
find
and
the
larger
replacement
tree
the
last
chance
to
survive
a
survivability,
and
all
of
us
have
agreed
to
that
during
the
meeting
that
we
had
I
think
that
presentation
tonight
may
have
been
a
little
premature
because
we
were
making
some
headway
in
meeting.
We
had
a
very
good
meeting
and
found
a
lot
of
common
ground
in
that
meeting,
but
I
think
that
the
presentation
tonight
was
probably
premature.
H
That's
not
criticism,
it's
just
a
difference
of
opinion
about
the
way
that
it
was
done.
We
have
no
problem
with
the
trade
committee
coming
back
and
given
the
council
quarterly
reports,
I
think
that
probably
we
need
to
work
a
little
closer
together
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
I
think
we're
getting
there,
but
we
haven't
made
it
there
yet
so
with
that
out
got
any
more
questions.
I'll
be
happy.
I.
B
J
G
Council
was
real
sensitive
about
that.
So
talking
with
the
administration
and
and
us
we
totally
understand
that
and
I
got
great
respect
for
the
job
that
they
do.
They
worked
so
hard,
probably
harder
than
anyone
needs
to
be
in
a
volunteer
position,
but
but
they
take
it
seriously
and
the
guidelines
should
be
the
LDO
and
and
what
that
says,
and
they
should
be
able
to
create
a
report
and
I
do
agree
with
you.
They
should
not
be
going
to
a
job
site
and
talking
with
contractors
and
telling
them
what
they
should
and
shouldn't
do.
G
G
And
then
we
have
an
obligation
to
look
at
that
and
if
it
is
correct
we
should
take
the
appropriate
action,
and
so
hopefully
that's
what
I'm
hearing
there's
some
coalescing
coming
together,
but
we're
still
a
little
bit
apart
in
areas
and
hopefully
we
can
make
make
progress
so
we're
we're
on
the
right
track.
You
know
that
concludes
my
questioning.
Thank.
K
Just
a
couple
of
things,
I
appreciate
your
comments,
Jerry
and
Brian.
Thank
you
for
reading
that
Carol.
Thank
you
for
I.
Think
putting
all
that
together.
Just
a
couple
of
observations.
I
think
there's
always
going
to
be
friction
just
because
of
the
nature
of
the
tree
committee
being
advisory.
Ok,
so
there's
always
going
to
be
some
tension,
I
think
and
I.
Don't
know
that
it's
always
a
bad
thing,
but
that
I
would
expect
there
to
be
some
disagreements.
K
One
thing
this
is
done,
though
this
has
made
this
issue
more
transparent
than
it
was
in
the
past,
and
that
was
one
of
the
goals
that
we
wanted
and,
and
it's
evident
that
the
tree
committee
basically
is
tracking
and
verifying
that
things
are
occurring
or
perhaps
not
occurring,
but
somebody's
tracking.
All
that
as
part
of
accountability,
which
was
another
reason
the
committee
was
formed
and
just
in
enlisting
and
reading
the
report
there
are
there's.
K
Feedback
loop
on
the
administrative
side
with
the
committee
because
it
looks
like
sometimes
there's
just
no
feedback
or
it's
late
feedback,
but
they're
they're,
charged
as
I
recall,
with
making
recommendations.
That's
what
they're
doing
and
sometimes
that
creates
a
little
tension,
but
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
it's
a
comprehensive
report,
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
them
quarterly
and
you
had
to
start
somewhere
tonight's,
a
good
start.
I
think.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
H
H
Typically,
it
can
be
resolved
with
just
me
visiting
the
site
to
find
out
what
the
what
the
issues
are,
or
even
or
even
with
Eric
Knoll,
invest
in
the
site
in
the
case
of
something
that
may
not
be
in
compliance
with
a
root
protection
on
a
tree
or
something
like
that.
But
that's
that's
where
the
authority
is
so.
H
No
actually,
what
would
normally
happen
is
we'll
get
a
report
say
from
the
trade
committee
member
to
Eric
Noland
that
there's
a
problem
we'll
go
out
there
and
visit
it
and
if
there's
something
that
has
been
stacked
on,
let's
say
the
root
system
are,
underneath
the
drip
line.
He'll
go
out
there
and
tell
the
contractors
you're
gonna
have
to
move
this
and
they'll
move.
You
know
so
we've
been
able
to
handle
it
diplomatically.
H
H
Think
we've
got
past
that
perception
in
the
beginning
that
that
false
perception
in
the
beginning
that
that
the
city
was
just
allowing
developers
to
go
out
there
and
clear
cut
property
from
property
line
to
property
line
that
that
never
happened
and
the
in
an
advisory
capacity.
One
of
the
things
that
the
trade
committee
is
supposed
to
do
is
to
help
us
with
recommendations
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
have
a
development
going
in,
let's
use
the
Hyatt
place
as
an
example.
The
Hyatt
Place
hotel
that
was
built.
H
That
was
actually
moved
from
one
side
of
the
property
where
it
was
originally
designed
over
to
the
other
side
of
the
property,
to
save
as
many
trees
as
possible
and
that's
the
purpose.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
is
to
move
the
development,
the
footprint
of
the
development
to
the
best
location,
on
the
property,
to
save
as
many
trees
as
possible,
and
that's
what
we've
been
working
for.
I'm.
H
H
And
that's
not
what
I
was
suggesting
mr.
Lawrence.
The
my
point
was:
is
that
when
you're
dealing
with
30
acres
of
property
and
you're
having
to
shape
drainage
to
create
a
number
of
sites
out
there,
you
have
equipment
that
has
to
go
out
there
and
shape
that
drainage.
Not
only
that
you've
got
all
this
underground
infrastructure
that
has
to
go
in
and,
and
you
can't
zigzag
that
infrastructure,
a
sewer
line
or
a
water
line
all
the
way
through
that
property.
H
H
Developers
have
been
good
to
work
with
us
about
saving
a
lot
of
the
mature
trees,
because
they
see
that
as
a
selling
point
for
the
houses
that
they're
going
to
have
there's
you
know
nobody
wants
to
go
out
cut
down
a
hundred
year
old
oak
tree.
You
know,
if
that's
something
that's
I
mean
the
the
name
of
this
subdivision
is
nature's
Trail,
and
so
they
tried
to
save
as
many
of
the
larger
trees
as
possible
on
there.
H
But
when
you're
running
infrastructure
and
you're
putting
in
streets
and
you're
and
you're
you're
putting
in
roads
and
you're
running
underground
sewer
lines,
it
demands
more
trees
come
down
and
we
try
to
make
sure
that
they
bring
down
the
worst
trees
of
the
line.
Sometimes
they
have
to
take
down
good
trees
and
that's
why
the
mitigation
clause
is
in
there.
H
H
But
that's
why
the
tree
committee
is
charged
would
develop
in
the
alternative
sites
for
reforestation,
so
that
if
the
developer
can't
put
the
trees
on
that
particular
piece
of
property-
and
this
happens
alive-
is
that
we
already
have
selected
locations
alone,
sill,
Avenue
or
along
some
other
places
where
those
trees
can
be
donated
and
can
be
placed.
You
know
maybe
on
the
city
right
away
or
in
this
Terri's
or
in
hillier
park
or
somewhere,
like
that
on.
L
H
Developed
well,
no,
sir,
and
again
the
reason
I
said
that
is
because,
under
the
previous
order,
its
before
this
tree
ordinance
was
adopted,
subdivisions
were
exempt,
so
it
wasn't
an
issue
until
this.
This
was
written
this
this
tree
ordinance
was
written
and
that's
when
subdivisions
were
placed
in
there
and
I
believe
that
was
a
mistake
to
place.
H
L
A
E
I
need
to
respond
to
a
few
things,
although
I
think
what
I'm
gonna
have
to
do
is
write
a
letter
and
research.
First
of
all,
we
are
following
the
land
development
ordinance
in
presenting
this
tonight.
Okay
and
I'll
go
and
find
chapter
in
verse
to
show
you,
okay,
we
presented
a
report
like
this
a
year
ago,
as
you
may
recall,
it
appears
in
the
minutes
of
the
city
council
meeting
last
February
we
represented
it.
There
was
no
objection
made
at
that
time.
E
If,
if
anything
that
we've
ever
done
has
shut
down
a
job
site
and
that's
new
information
to
me,
I
don't
have
the
power
to
shut
down
a
job
site.
Now
what
I've
been
doing
and
what
we
do
as
Ward
representatives
is,
we
go
around
and
we
look
for
a
tree
problems
all
right
and
we
report
to
the
City
arborist
when
there,
when
there
are
problems,
okay
and
he's
supposed
to
follow
up
and
do
something
to
correct
them.
E
E
We're
an
advisory
committee,
we
go
and
we
make
recommendations
and
and
that's
what
we
do.
We
make
the
recommendations
and,
according
to
the
LDO,
there
have
been
a
couple
of
cases
where
we've
had
to
express
conflict
with
a
decision
that
was
made
and
we
did
it
according
to
the
land
development
ordinance.
We
prepare
our
objections
and
we
send
it
to
mr.
krill
who
forwards
it
to
the
mayor
and
he
arbitrates.
Okay,
that's
in
the
LDO
can't
quote
chapter
in
horse.
Unfortunately,.
E
The
thing
that
we
mainly
ask
for
is
not
so
much
conservation
of
trees,
although
it
would
be
great
if
that
happened,
we'd
really
love
to
see
more
of
our
larch
live
oaks,
especially
conserved.
What
we
ask
for
is
mitigation
every
time
we
do
a
set
of
recommendations.
We
say
that
we
need
to
mitigate
for
the
trees
that
are
lost.
The
current
standard
is
in
the
land,
development
ordinance,
it's
three
to
one
right
now:
okay,
it's
three
to
one
and
that's
what
we
asked
for
and
that's
what
we're
asking
for
enforcement
of
okay.
C
E
Not
complicated,
right
and
I
know
that
you
know
there's
there's
an
idea
of
a
spirit
of
compromise,
but
these
are
protected.
Trees
and
I
would
advocate
that
mitigation
is
already
the
compromise
if
you're
cutting
you
know
a
500
year
old
tree,
it's
a
big
compromise
to
mitigate
for
that.
That's
already
the
compromise.
E
This
is
what
we
need
to
be
pursuing
if
we're
not
going
to
establish
a
policy
where
we're
conserving
more
of
the
trees
and
requiring
developments
to
maybe
do
more
site-specific
work
and
more
careful
and
more
considered
site
plans
than
they
need
to
do
the
mitigation,
then
to
do
them.
That's
all
we're
asking
for.
E
E
E
He
said
I,
don't
the
City
arborist
said
we
don't
have
anybody
to
help
us
it's
just
too
much.
We
can't
do
it
all.
So
what
we
did
was
we
set
up
our
windshield
surveys,
and
this
is
where
we
go
out
and
we
look
to
see.
Have
there
been
any?
You
know
three
violations
and-
and
we
do
this-
we
report
it
to
the
City
arborist.
So
he
knows.
Okay
and
I've
had
a
couple
of
incidents
where
you
know
I
had
photographs
of
new
trees
being
cut
without
a
permit.
I
had
the
photographs.
I
saw
him.
E
I
sent
him
to
the
City
arborist
and
I
suggested
that
we
assess
penalties.
Okay
and
his
response
to
me
was
well,
you
have
to
do
an
affidavit.
You
know
you
can't.
Basically
he
tried
to
find
reasons
not
to
do
it.
Okay
and
we
all
decided
that
okay-
maybe
there's
not
enough
public
awareness-
okay,
so
we
backed
off
on
trying
to
get
enforcement
and
trying
to
get
penalties,
assessed.
Okay
and
we
decided
okay
this
year,
we'll
do
a
public
education
plan.
Okay,
we'll
try
and
get
the
word
out
the
best
we
can.
E
We
haven't
gone
started
with
that.
Yet
I
mean
this
is
we've
just
gotten
finished
with
our
LDL
revisions,
so
we're
going
to
go
forward
with
this?
Okay
and
and
and
use
me
mail
and
a
TV
if
it
ever
happened
and
and
all
that
to
get
the
word
out,
hopefully
get
it
in
the
Sun
Herald
and
make
people
aware
of
what
their
obligations
are
under
our
tree
ordinance.
E
That's
that's
all
we've
ever
tried
to
do
is
get
the
ordinance
enforced
and
what
I
can
do
is
go
through
if
you
want
go
through
this
and
and
go
find
chapter
and
verse
in
the
LDO
and
I'll.
Do
it
to
show
you
that
this
is
that's.
This
is
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Okay,
to
the
extent
that
I
can
I,
don't
have
any
more
comments.
Thanks
I'll
be
back
in
touch
with
y'all.
K
E
E
Yeah,
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
publicize
that
what
the
obligations
are
want
to,
let
everybody
know
we're
not
assessing
penalties
right
now
and
and
we
have
to
hash
out
what
those
penalties
are
going
to
be,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
to
mr.
Creole
and
Eric
about
okay,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
media
blitz,
everybody
is
because
I
mean
we.
You
know
if
there's
a
lack
of
awareness
and
that
maybe
there
may
be
a
genuine
lack
of
awareness.
We
don't
want
to.
You
know,
clobber
somebody
with
penalties.
E
G
A
G
E
You
know
conservation
of
trees
has
been
it's
it's
a
biloxi
value
that
goes
back
100
or
more
years.
Okay,
it's
it's
just
if
people
identify
so
closely
with
the
trees
year
and
I
understand
that
we
need
development,
but
we
have
to
look
at
I
just
feel
like
we
have
to
do
a
better
job
of
that.
More
trees
deserved
good
development.
That
includes
trees
and
let's
make
the
mitigation
happen.
C
E
Brian
Lamar
just
posted
a
promotional
video
in
an
award,
seven
Facebook
page
for
Biloxi,
and
it
was
all
about
trees.
I
mean
there
were
trees
everywhere
in
the
video.
It's
different.
You
know
cross-cutting
to
different.
You
know
parts
of
Biloxi
in
different
parts
of
the
coast
and
it
was
all
trees.
Okay.
Alright,
that's
all
thanks!
George.
A
B
M
Our
ribbon
cutting
for
our
library
and
we'll
mark
it
on
believe
it
was
Thursday
Friday
morning
and
had
a
great
turnout.
What's
that,
yeah
George
stayed
out
all
night,
so
he
wouldn't
oversleep,
so
he
could
make
it.
But
we
had
a
great
turnout.
I'm
excited
about
that,
as
well
as
the
future
of
that
building.
What's
going
to
be
going
with
that
also
I
thought
I
saw
Walt
earlier
Christie
may
be
able
to
answer
this.
M
M
M
A
H
G
I
B
G
B
G
These
meetings,
but
the
lighting
at
the
tennis
courts
I
know
there's
a
couple
plans
that
we
can
go
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
grant
money
of
available
and
or
you
know,
a
bond
somewhere
out
there-
that
we
can
get
of
the
earmark
a
little
money
but
or
maybe
there's
a
service
contract.
That's
about
to
be
terminated
or
expire,
or
something
like
that.
Maybe
we
can
kind
of
reposition
some
of
those
funds
for
that,
but
we're
getting
more
tournaments
we're
getting
more
interest
out
there
and
the
lighting
is
poor.
B
G
K
G
N
N
Right:
okay,
great
good
news,
I
appreciate
it
in
Kenny
I've
got
some
underground
football
flag;
football
leagues
that
we're
talking
about
creating
a
league
on
Sunday
it
pops
fairy
fields.
Now
those
fields
are
in
horrible
shape,
I'm
working
with
Miss
Bell
and
the
county
to
redress
them.
I,
don't
know
if
you'd
work
with
me
and
the
administration
to
try
to
move
them
over
to
to
the
sports
play.
L
L
Who's
gonna
grow
up
with
them.
The
old
people,
like
you,
pose
too
long,
you
too
late
for
you,
but
they
will
enjoy
that
the
rest
of
their
lives.
That's
good
Pleasant!
When
you
extend
that
and
make
that
community
center
and
be
just
part
of
their
community
there's
nobody
a
good
thing
so
you'd
be
out
there
with
the
kids
to
be
excited
like
that,
but
that
was
pretty
good.
L
L
Looking
for
a
partisan
reunions
and
stuff
like
that,
/
to
be
a
good
thing
for
downtown
blocks
it,
and
as
far
as
the
TIF
day
and
I've
called
them
to
the
paper,
the
card
else
will
be
walking
down
downtown
see
that's
so
you
need
to
explain
that
if
okay,
everybody
thank
to
coming
downtown
in
another
Street,
so
they're,
not
so
out
where
the
cloud
day
was
going
on,
how
they
gonna
get
to
City
Hall
I'll.
Do
what.
I
L
L
L
A
I
have
real
quick,
a
couple
of
things.
Congratulations
Southland!
You
guys!
Gonna
do
your
groundbreaking
tomorrow!
So
congratulations
on
that
won't!
Look
like
they're
starting
to
close
out
some
roads.
For
so
that's
thought
now.
Look
pretty
good
on
the
east
side
of
Biloxi
I
think
is
the
Division
Street
getting
ready
to
come?
Look
I
saw
them
working
there
like
they
would
get
ready
to
pay.
A
Okay,
we're
gonna
move
on
to
our
public
agenda
citizen
comments,
three
minutes
per
person,
a
total
of
45
minutes,
but
anyone
on
my
left
would
like
to
come
up
and
speak.
Anyone
on
my
left
come
on
up.
Please
sign
in
sign
your
name
address
and
also
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record,
so
it
can
be
on
the
record.
O
O
O
A
P
My
wife,
Christina
and
I
own
a
unit
at
Oak,
Shores
I,
think
it's
important
to
mention
that
we
bought
real
estate
here
in
Biloxi
in
2016,
because
we
had
an
incredible
experience
actually
staying
in
oak
shores
as
guests
in
a
short-term
vacation
rental
ourselves.
Our
host
was
incredible
ambassador
for
Biloxi.
We
purchased
a
unit
at
Oak
Shores
later
that
year
as
a
place
to
spend
time
enjoying
the
Gulf
Coast,
but
also
intended
it
to
be
self-sufficient
as
a
vacation
rental.
Over
the
past
two
years,
our
experience
has
been
remarkable.
P
We've
welcomed
families
from
around
the
United
States
and
several
other
countries.
We've
helped
military
members
who
are
in
town
for
training
have
a
comfortable
place
to
stay
without
a
long
term
lease
and
our
family
has
enjoyed
it
immensely.
We
don't
believe
that
our
experience
is
unique
among
the
home
sharing
community.
We
believe
that
vacation
rentals
are
the
future
of
tourism
in
our
area
and
in
the
world.
We
believe
that
short-term
vacation
rentals
are
both
proper
and
beneficial
in
areas
that
make
the
most
sense
in
places
such
as
oak
shores.
P
It
allows
others
to
come
and
enjoy
the
Gulf
Coast
in
a
welcoming
homestyle
atmosphere
in
the
past
two
years.
At
our
singular
unit,
we've
welcomed
over
a
hundred
guests,
who've
actively
sought
out
short-term
rentals
in
our
area.
The
trend
for
travelers
desiring
short-term
rentals
is
rising
every
year
and
that
number
is
multiplied
many
times
over.
P
In
places
like
oak
shores,
an
entire
the
entire
Gulf
Coast,
our
guests,
ate
at
local
restaurants,
went
to
local
tourist
attractions,
enjoyed
festivals
concerts,
bought
local
groceries,
souvenirs
and
entertain
their
children
all
while
generously
moving
their
money
into
our
local
economy
and
paying
local
taxes.
As
for
ourselves
from
day
one
of
local
ownership,
we've
engaged
the
city
county
and
state
to
make
sure
that
our
collecting
and
remitting
of
taxes
has
been
accurate
and
timely.
We
take
our
commitment
to
our
community
very
seriously.
P
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
not
only
look
at
oak
shores
but
to
look
in
the
future
to
other
communities
like
ours.
The
number
of
applications
for
short-term
rental
permits
that
have
been
submitted
from
oak
shores
indicates
a
strong
desire
by
our
community
to
operate
within
reasonable
guidelines.
A
vote
towards
rezoning.
This
area
for
this
use
will
allow
our
community
to
take
a
step
into
the
future
of
the
hospitality
industry
and
our
residents
to
use
their
homes
and
property
to
welcome
many
more
taxpaying
guests
to
our
area.
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
Jim
York,
1664,
Beach
Boulevard
I'm,
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
hitting
our
property
zone
2cb
and
it
hopefully
set
up
a
path
for
short-term
rentals,
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
say
this.
Is
that
there's
a
number
of
folks
in
this
room
here
that
have
a
firm
belief
and
would
love
to
see
that
happen.
Q
Q
The
other
thing
I
want
to
say,
is
I
had
purchased
a
condo
at
ok,
Shores,
pre-katrina
and
I've
purchased
a
few
additional
ones
after
the
mass
had
happened.
I
have
a
love
for
the
city
of
Biloxi
and
I'm,
a
walking
advertisement,
I'd
love
to
talk
about
Biloxi
talk
about
the
fun
things
to
do,
and
I
really
have
a
warm
belief
for
this
city.
Q
Over
time.
I've
seen
Biloxi
evolve
as
a
city
itself
and
I
also
know.
People
who
are
staying
in
places
are
evolving
too,
because
maybe
the
perfect
fit
isn't
a
hotel
for
them
anymore.
It
may
be
something
that
they
need.
That's
a
little
bit
different.
It
may
be
a
kitchen
to
cook
some
food
in.
It
may
be
square
footage
where
they
can
walk
around
a
little
bit
more
and
not
be
kind
of
curtayne
to
a
hotel
room,
especially
if
they
have
children.
It
may
be
a
patio
to
barbecue
on.
Q
It
may
be
a
TV
where
mom
and
dad
can
watch
one
channel
or
maybe
dad
just
watch
the
sports
channel
and
and
the
kids
watch
Nickelodeon.
It
could
be
more
than
one
bathroom
when
you're
getting
ready
to
go
out
to
eat.
For
dinner,
I
mean
it's
nice
to
have
two
bathrooms
to
get
to
work
together
and
to
get
yourself
done
up
before
a
dinner
playground
on
the
property
more
than
one.
Q
We
want
to
feel
like
it's
a
second
home.
Those
are
the
things
that
we
offer
with
the
short-term
rentals
at
Oak.
Yours
I
just
want
to
share
this
with
you.
There
was
a
lady
that
called
me
in
November.
Her
name
was
Miss
mattes
and
out
of
Columbus
Ohio,
and
she
said
to
me
she
says
you
know:
I
need
a
condom
with
a
big
refrigerator
and
a
big
oven.
I
said.
Q
I
Q
R
Charlie
more
oh
I'm
at
1664,
Beach
Boulevard,
also
my
background
I'm,
where
Todd
assistant
commander
for
the
New,
Orleans,
Police,
Department
and
before
I
bought
the
unit
over
here.
I
did
investigation
actually
with
the
police
department
in
Biloxi
and
I
asked
about
my
first
condo
I
had
was
actually
in
Gulfport
at
the
legacy
villa,
and
so
they
never
heard
of
it.
They
never
been
back.
R
There,
there's
been
no
problems
and
then
I
said
I've
checked
with
the
Biloxi
Police
Department
I
asked
him
about
a
choice
they
said
prior
to
when
I
bought
the
unit
they've
been
back
there
numerous
times
for
drugs
fights
and
whatever,
and
ever
since
I
bought
the
unit.
The
crime
rate
has
really
dropped,
almost
nothing
back
down
the
management
and
it
got
rid
of
HTT
was
that
subchapter
8
over
there
and
that
the
quality
of
living
back
there
is
much
much
better
by
unions,
run
it
mostly
to
military
people,
and
they
really
can't
stay
in
the.
R
A
J
I
J
From
all
over
the
country
to
come
to
see
like
you
picked
Biloxi
from
Europe
I
mean
how
did
you
find
this?
You
know,
ask
those
questions,
and
then
you
know
we
we
send
them
out
to
the
to
the
casinos
there's,
always
a
map
and
some
you
know
all
kinds
of
stuff
to
send
them
out
where
to
go
and
how
to
get
there
even
down
to
Hoover
call
uber
they'll
come
get
you
I,
just
like
to
say
the
management
company.
There
is
quite
strict
as
well.
You
know
they
and
with
the.
J
Pretty
closely
through
the
agencies
and
all
the
advisers,
and
all
that
you
know
you
have
to
give
an
ID
and
as
much
safer
now
than
it's
ever
been
so
as
far
as
getting
quality
people
and
qualified
people
they're
qualified
when
they
come
or
they
or
they
don't
get
accepted.
So
there's
you
know,
there's
those
safety
issues,
factors
in
people
that
are
applying
to
rent
a
short
time.
J
S
Good
evening
my
name
is
William
Kerr,
my
wife
and
I
own
a
unit
at
dope
shores.
We
lived
there
part
time.
We
do.
You
are
involved
in
the
short
term
rental
affair.
I
think
most
folks
who
spoke
before
me
covered
a
lot
of
the
points.
I
would
just
like
to
add
that
we're
respectful
of
the
issues
before
the
council.
I
S
Difficulty
and
decide-
and
some
of
these
things
are
sometimes
not
a
perfectly
clear
answer-
oak
sores
I
think
one
of
the
most
convincing
cases
perhaps
for
for
some
of
the
things
we're
saying
is.
If
you
were
a
resident
of
Biloxi
or
had
seen
that
unit
several
years
ago.
Seeing
that
complex
and
you
see
it
now,
there's
a
remarkable
difference
and
that
I
think
is
due
to
several
factors.
One
of
them
is
the
the
HOA.
S
There
is
strong,
the
property
manager
is,
she
runs
a
tight
ship
and
for
all
residents,
whether
your
owner,
what
have
you
the
property
is
well
taken?
Care
of?
It's
been,
has
new
roofs,
new
paint,
it's
now
gated
just
and
the
influx
of
the
funds
that
have
made
that
available
or
in
large
measure,
due
to
the
short
term
rental
interest,
if
you
will
or
owners,
and
not
all
of
us
as
short-term
rental
owners.
S
If
you
want
to
call
us
that
do
that
all
the
time
it
happens
occasionally
with
some
people,
some
more
than
others,
the
rental
requirements
for
people
to
get
into
one
of
these
units.
You
know
when
I
first
heard
about
short-term
rental.
Like
you
know,
you
have
this:
some
people
might
have
the
vision
of
college
kids
drinking
having
parties
and
people
who
live
there.
Full-Time
pay,
the
consequences
of
that,
but
there's
a
pretty
strong
vetting
process
that
goes
into
into
play
before
they're
allowed
to
any
of
these
rentals.
S
S
There
is
a
couldn't
you
know,
there's
some
has
been
made
of
the
the
difference
between
a
long
term,
rental
and
a
short
term
rental
and
I.
Think
the
inference
in
a
lot
of
this
cases
is
that
a
longer
term
rental
will
provide
better
renters,
been
my
experience
that
that's
not
necessarily
the
case.
Some
of
our
worst
experiences
over
years
and
years
of
renting
have
been
with
folks
that
you
know
had
standard
six
months
or
one
year.
Leases.
S
I
would
also
say
that
some
of
the
residents
who
have
voiced
concerns
about
some
problems
that
they
may
have
had
with
short-term
rentals
I
respect
their
opinions.
This
is
what
America
is
supposed
to
be
about.
We
we
express
our
opinions
and
lay
out
our
cases,
and
people
like
you
have
to
have
to
make
sir.
S
U
U
We
we
have
commercial
property
on
both
sides
of
us
and
the
most
beautiful
beach
in
Mississippi
in
front
of
us.
It
brings
a
lot
of
tourists
here.
Some
of
them
will
not
stay
in
a
hotel.
They
will
go
back
where
they
came
from.
They
come
from
Pensacola
all
across
Florida,
a
lot
of
further
to
the
west
of
us
here
and
once
they
come
and
stay
in
Biloxi.
U
They
want
to
come
back
in
Biloxi
because
it's
a
2-fold
city,
it's
a
regular,
thriving
city,
and
then
it's
got
the
beach
with
all
of
the
tourist
attractions,
because
of
that
Destin
can't
touch
that
they
roll
up
the
sidewalks
in
the
winter.
We
have
year-round
activities
here
that
the
citizens
enjoy
and
the
tourists
enjoy
the
people
who
stay
in
our
condos
short
term.
They
leave
behind
tickets
from
all
of
the
malls
Walmart
and
all
the
shopping
centers
in
the
area.
U
A
lot
of
Commerce
comes
from
that
and
they
want
a
yard
to
barbecue
in
they
need
the
space
and
they're
not
they're,
not
subject
to
stay
in
the
hotel.
They'll
just
go
stay
in
Florida.
If
they
can't
stay
here,
so
we
screen
our
people,
no
one
just
comes
there.
We
monitor
how
many
people
they're
bringing
with
them.
We
want
to
know
what
their
intentions
are.
We
have
the
right
to
turn
them
down
and
we
do
turn
some
down
of
the
people
that
come
there
or
well-behaved
and
the
people
who
stay
there
on
long
term.
U
A
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H
They
kiss
your
I
when
they
came
in
originally
they
were
under
the
REM
30
zoning.
So
there
were
a
number
of
applications
for
conditional
use
approval
under
the
rm30
zonings.
Well,
there
were
so
many
applications
to
change
that
from
a
planning
standpoint.
It
triggered
more
of
a
zoning
change
request
to
go
to
commercial
than
it
did
to
have
so
many
there
as
conditional
use.
L
H
No
they're
still
gonna
be
a
public
hearing.
You
know
last
week
when
we
discuss
this
I
had
suggested
to
you
that
some
of
the
Planning
Commission
members
had
felt
that
we
needed
to
hold
up
on
this
until
after
the
public
hearing
and
we
did
meet
with
six
of
the
Planning
Commission
members.
A
week
ago,
Friday
and
after
a
lengthy
discussion.
H
We
were
trying
to
set
up
the
public
hearing
to
consider
additional
rules
for
short-term
rental.
Some
some
unanswered
questions.
You
know
that
needed
to
be
answered
and
we
thought
that
we'd
come
out
of
there
with
a
specific
date
for
the
public
hearing
before
the
Planning
Commission,
but
mr.
washer
asked
that
he
wanted
to
instead
of
us
just
discussing
it
was
six.
He
wanted
us
to
have
an
executive
committee
meeting
with
all
of
the
Planning
Commission
members
to
discuss
possible
recommendations
to
changes
before
we
set
the
date
for
the
public
hearing.
H
So
the
Planning
Commission
is
aware
they
need
to
conduct
a
public
hearing,
but
I
would
imagine
this
Thursday
at
the
plate.
At
this
Planning
Commission
meeting
there
will
be
discussion
about
the
executive
committee
meeting
to
go
for
that
now.
Having
said
that,
let
me
just
tell
you
this:
what's
on
the
agenda
today
is
a
zoning
change
and
irrelevant
of
short
term
rental.
This
is
a
zoning
change,
so
the
considerations
you
have
to
make-
or
was
there
a
mistake
in
the
original
zoning?
H
Is
there
a
public
need,
or
has
there
been
a
change
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood?
It's
not
about
short-term
rental.
It's
about
whether
or
not
you
believe
one
of
those
three
conditions
exist.
It's
only
a
zoning
change
case
at
this
point
so
get
an
argument
be
made
that
there's
been
a
change
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
You
could
look
at
the
surrounding
zoning
and
it's
got
C
B.
H
Zoning
on
both
sides
of
it
does
have
some
MB
on
em
beyond
their
neighborhood
business,
but
it
it
does
meet
some
of
the
planning
of
criteria
for
a
zoning
change.
There's
also
an
application
for
a
zoning
change
for
the
townhomes
that
face
Irish
Hill,
that's
going
to
be
asking
for
the
same
thing:
to
go
from
multi-family
residential
to
commercial
business,
so
in
under
state
law,
in
considering
a
change
in
zoning.
Those
are
the
three
criteria
that
you
all
have
to
consider
you.
You
don't
use
short
term
rental
as
the
argument
for
a
zoning
change.
H
Well,
it's
something
that
needs
more
discussion
and
that's
a
reason
that
we
believe
the
Planning
Commission
needs
to
take
into
consideration
these
things
before
you.
You
make
a
recommendation
on
this.
You
know
we
can't
tell
the
City
Council
what
to
do.
We
can
request
it,
but
we
believe
that
there
are
some
considerations
that
you
need
to
entertain.
One
of
the
things
that
I'd
recommended
had
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting
was
that
we
believe
that
one
of
the
recommendations
will
make
the
Planning
Commission
is
that
all
short-term
rentals
need
to
be
conditional.
H
Use
that
that,
in
whatever
the
situation
is,
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
record
of
who
comes
in
and
gets
a
license
and
who
doesn't
and
conditional
uses
is
one
of
those
considerations
that
way
our
code
enforcement
guys.
When
we
get
a
complaint
about
somebody
operating
short-term
rental,
we
already
have
the
inventory
in
our
office
about
who's
been
approved
and
who
hasn't
been
approved.
H
We're
not
going
to
get
the
reports
in
our
office
that
someone
is
operating
illegally
because
probably
a
number
of
the
unit
owners
are
operating
without
a
license
and,
as
was
displayed
at
the
Planning
Commission
meeting.
And
here
when
the
question
was
asked
how
many
people
in
here
operating
short-term
rentals
and
a
number
of
people
in
the
audience
raised
their
hand.
H
Well,
how
many
of
you
have
licenses
and
no
hands
went
up,
so
you
have
a
number
of
unit
owners
that
are
operating
under
the
radar
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
is
how
many
people
are
licensed
and
how
many
people
are
not
licensed.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
them
are
licensed
now.
I
H
People
who
answer
that
question
expressed
a
willingness
to
get
a
license
to
come
in
and
get
licensed
once
the
zoning
was
correct
or
once
the
conditional
use
was
approved,
but
but
we
need
to
hold
them
to
that
and
make
sure
that
there's
something
in
the
review
process
that
gives
us
some
some
enforcement
capability.
You
know
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
the
license
that
they
they
need
to
operate
well.
L
H
That
would
be
my
recommendation.
That
would
be
my
recommendation
is
that
the
council
table
this
until
after
the
public
hearing
before
the
Planning
Commission,
had
the
apartments
been
an
issue
before
the
last
public
hearing
that
was
held,
we
would
have
probably
already
had
these
questions
answered,
but
what
happened
is,
is
it
the
stack
of
applications
for
apartments
was
not
presented
until
after
the
public
hearing
was
held
to
reconsider,
single-family
residential,
and
that's
why
this
has
become
an
issue
now
for.
I
A
L
N
H
N
G
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A
V
A
A
Satisfied
I
believe
in
and
then
just
my
belief
is
we
should.
We
should
send
it
back
to
the
Planning
Commission.
That
was
my
plan,
but
imma
go
ahead
and
since
it
was
moved,
then
it
was
second
on
table
in
it.
Imma
carry
that
forward,
but
my
recommendation
would
have
been
to
send
it
back
to
the
Planning.
Commission
and
I
have
them
to
rethink
it.
But
okay
I
understand
I
understand,
but
it
was
also
moved
on
top
of
it
to
table
it
afterwards.