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From YouTube: City Council budget workshop July 28 2020
Description
The Biloxi City Council held a budget workshop to discuss non-departmental items for the upcoming fiscal year. To see the agenda, visit https://www.biloxi.ms.us/agendas/citycouncil/2020/072820/072820agenda.pdf.
A
The
agenda
got
to
motion
by
paul
tisdale,
the
second
by
actually,
I
got
a
motion
by
george
lawrence
in
a
second
by
paul
tisdale,
any
discussion,
all
in
favor
signal,
with
the
raise
your
hand,
motion
case
unanimously,
we'll
begin
with
the
presentation
agenda.
Mr
mayor,
we'll
start
with
your
report,
but
if
you
would
again,
as
as
as
we
did
last
week,
if
you
would
just
give
us
a
brief
synopsis
and
we'll
save
the
meat
and
potatoes
for
the
actual
meeting
when
we
get
to
that
portion
of
the
agenda.
C
A
Guys-
and
I
too
have
no
report-
this
will
take
us
to
the
public
agenda
of
citizens
comments
again,
we'll
have
45
minutes
with
three
minutes
per
person,
so
anybody
in
the
room
that
would
care
to
speak.
If
there
is
please
come
to
the
front
state,
your
name
and
your
address
and
sign
in
at
the
table
there
being
none
in
the
room
that
would
care
to
speak,
we'll
move
to
the
policy
agenda.
C
Well
again,
thanks
to
our
group,
accounting
and
department,
heads
and
everybody
that
been
involved,
especially
with
the
budget,
it's
ongoing
we're
trying
to
actually
figure
out
where
we're
going
to
be
in
october,
one
but
we're
you
know,
anticipating
and
guessing
with
regard
to
how
we're
going
to
end
this
year
to
begin
21.
C
E
C
Of
the
4.41,
which
is
classified
as
non-departmental
expenses,
the
biggest
part
is
that
insurance
burden
that
we
carry.
So
you
have
this
document
and
it
shows
the
changes
from
one
year
to
the
other.
So
this
is
what
we're
proposing
is
what
we're
seeing
based
on
what
we've
absorbed
in
covet
19
and
what
we
can
move
forward
with
in
the
expense
area.
E
If
I
might
add
there,
we
did
the
insurance.
Frank
bordeaux
is
not
able
to
be
here
today
because
he's
in
jackson,
but
I
can
have
him
back
to
talk
about
insurance.
2.9
million
is
the
biggest
single
item
in
the
non-department
budget.
E
In
addition
to
frank,
the
two
other
big
hitters
are
the
library,
and
we
have
a
library
representative
available
to
talk
this
morning
this
afternoon,
and
we
also
have
the
other
big
hitter,
of
course,
is
cta
and
kevin
coggins.
Here
to
also
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
about
their
ask.
F
F
We
were
looking
at
revenue,
roughly
58
expenditures
to
that
point,
departments
57,
so
we're
a
million
ahead
for
that
part.
And
then,
when
we
look
here,
we
currently
as
it
stands,
we're
looking
at
four
million
dollars
in
expenses
which
puts
us
three
down.
C
Right,
but
you
know
part
of
that
non-departmental
as
we
look
at
things.
There
are
some
other
sources.
You
know
that
will
be
looking
one
particular
part
of
other
sources
where
we're
going
to
carry
forward
and
that's
helped
us
in
beginning
cash.
What
we're
driving
at
you
know
the
kova
de
201
is
1.3
1.4
million.
We
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
get
this
year
by
the
october
1
or
not,
but
it's
going
to
be
booked
as
a
receivable.
C
G
C
Right
or
other
things
that
certainly
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
revenue
loss,
compensation
from
whatever
the
federal
government
or
whatever
the
state
has
whatever
that
number
is
we'll
will
derive
a
guess
again.
It's
not
a
guess.
It's
an
is
an
educated
idea
of
what
we
think
is
in
the
queue.
So
that
would
be
you
know
anything
any
other
refinancing,
op
opportunities.
C
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
what
we
did
with
the
the
bond
issue,
but
there
may
be
some
other
things:
utility
authorities
some
may
or
may
not
be,
but
which.
F
Some
figures
on,
I
know
we,
we
kind
of
went
over
departmental
budgets
last
week.
I
have
some
questions
on
those.
I
won't
ask
them
today
yeah,
but
I
know
because
some
of
these
numbers
are
going
to
change
as
we
proceed
as
they
always
do
so
I'll.
Just
hang
on
to
those
I
want
to
ask
those
today,
but
that's
kind
of
about
it.
I
know
that
president
deming
recognized
cta
in
the
library.
If
you
know
they
may
want
to
make
comments
a
little
later,
but
that's
it.
Thank
you.
A
B
We're
going
to
call
for
an
insurance
meeting
between
kennedy,
live
and
paul
tisdale
been
the
same
committee.
I
guess
we'll
be
the
same
doing
that
and
we
can
also
meet
if
you
wanted
to
mike,
to
meet
with
frank
about
the
2.9
million,
see
where
we're
at
with
those
things
we'll
do
that.
Maybe
try
to
do
it
this
week
before
the
next
meeting,
whenever
we
can
get
a
chance
to
do
it.
We
like
meeting
on
friday,
sometimes
it's
easier
for
everybody.
So
we'll
just
set
a
timer
for
the
insurance
committee.
B
E
E
There
really
just
isn't
a
whole
lot
of
wiggle
room
left
in
that
insurance
policy.
Those
three
insurance
policies.
Basically,
you've
got
the
flood
policy,
the
property
policy,
the
liability
policy
and
well,
that's
it,
and-
and
the
sad
thing
is
we're
doing
all
the
right
things
as
a
city,
we
reduce
the
number
of
accidents.
We've
had
we're
not
having
an
individual
many
worker
comp
claims
and
those
that
we
have
are
closing
are
being
closed
out.
So
we're
taking
all
the
right
actions.
There
is
a
there's,
an
absence
of
badness.
E
A
A
We
pay
them
a
year
right,
but
what
we
talked
about
was
in
the
cost
of
our
insurance.
Was
people
not
using
meta-analysis,
so
we
were
trying
to
incentivize
people
to
use
meta-analysis
instead
of
going
to
outside
other
network
providers.
Has
that
realized
this
year?
Have
we
seen
an
increase
in
the
percentage
use
of
meta-analysis
versus
the
use
of
other
providers?
The.
F
Meta-Analysis
will
provide
that
information.
I
think
they
they
make
quarterly
reports
available.
I
don't
know
if
they
send
them
to
the
city,
but
that
information
should
be
readily
available.
If
you
just,
we
just
gave
met
analysis,
you
know
a
week's
notice
10
days
notice.
I
said:
hey
here's.
What
we'd
like
to
do,
compare
the
visits
to
yada
yada
yada.
They
could
put
that
data
together
for
us,
I'm
sure,
okay,.
D
Yep
president
we've
sat
on
this
committee
for
the
last
seven
years
that
me
and
you've
been
on
it
forever,
but
the
problem
is
going
they're
going
to
the
emergency
room
at
the
hospital
versus
going
to
medical
analysis
and
that
they
would
simply
go
to
medical
analysis.
D
D
When
you
got
something,
don't
go
straight
to
the
emergency
room
at
at
the
hospital
go
to
go
to
get
the
care
at
medical
analysis.
You.
G
A
That's
the
numbers
I
was
looking
for.
Have
we
been
able
to
do
that,
and
I
know
one
of
the
problems.
One
of
the
fences
that
we
face
with
meta-analysis
is
access,
and
so,
when
somebody
does
have
something
they
can
go
to
the
emergency
room
at
any
time
of
the
day,
24
hours
every
day
when
they
want
to
go
to
med
analysis,
they
usually
have
to
schedule
something,
and
so
the
access.
C
A
C
Some
telemedicine,
too,
that
becomes
more
and
more
usable
at
this
point
in
time,
so.
C
Mayor
bring
the
mic
closer,
I'm
sorry
scarlett,
you
mentioned
the
telemedicine
component
of
what
can
be
brought
to
the
table.
I
think
is
a
big
thing,
the
more
we
pitch
it
to
you
know
the
more
they'll
be
using
that.
So
I
I.
A
Think
that's
a
great
solution
to
getting
more
readily
available
access
to
medicine
versus
going
to
the
emergency
room
for
everything
that
comes
up.
But
again.
I
think
that
and
I've
seen
that
in
my
own,
in
my
own
household
with
my
daughter,
get
sick
and
I
was
like
go
to
midnight
and
well.
A
They
don't
have
an
appointment
until
next
week
on
thursday
and
I'm
like
well
you'll,
be
better
by
then
anyway,
so
just
just
suck
it
up
buttercup
and
but,
but
that
is
one
of
the
and
that's
the
numbers
I
wanted
to
see
is:
are
we
driving
people
into
the
lower
cost
providers
versus
continuing
to
use
the
expensive
providers
and
our
education
process
hasn't
been
successful
and
if
not,
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
readdress?
A
That
telehealth
sounds
great,
we'll
look
for
the
reports
from
from
meta-analysis,
mr
chisel,
you
put
your
finger
up
as
if
you
wanted
to.
F
Right
and
another
thing,
this
is
just
me
for
our
george
and
kenny,
I'm
thinking
when
we
we've
been.
We
meet
with
cya
to
talk
about
property
and
frank,
I
think
sometimes
it's
in
on
the
property,
but
on
the
health
insurance,
I've
I've
been
thinking,
maybe
it's
nice
to
have
the
business
manager
and
the
personnel
human
resource
supervisor
there
just
to
talk
with
us,
because
I
know
sometimes
we
have
questions
that
come
up
on
the
use
and
things
like
that.
So
I
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there.
F
I
think
it
might
be
good
when
we
meet
to
talk
insurance
to
have
the
the
human
resource
supervisor
there
and
the
business
manager
there
just
to
kind
of
help
us
out
in
some
respect,
but
also
serve
as
reference
on
on
other
issues.
Just
a
thought.
B
Last
year
we
supposed
to
put
that
program
in
where
we
had
people
being
updated,
checking
their
medicine.
Did
we
actually
do
anything
with
that
program?
We
had
a
meeting
here.
We
talked
about
it.
It
was
another
excess.
What
it
can
have
to
make
sure
they're
taking
their
blood
pressure
medicine
we
supposed
to
be
following
up
with
them.
Did
we
ever
enact
that
at
all
through
the
city?
E
Go
ahead,
I
hate
to
I
hate
to
make
excuses,
but
the
the
topic
today
is
non-department
and
the
medical,
the
self-insured
self-insurance
self-insured
risk
insurance,
which
is,
is
not
in
a
non-department
budget.
So
I
don't
have
the
right
people
here
to
really
answer
your
questions.
I
could
have
them
at
the
next
staff
meeting.
We
need
psy
and
the
bsxi
insurance
crew
to
be
able
to
answer
those
questions.
E
What
I
did
I
did
provide
to
each
of
you
in
the
last
week
is
an
update
on
where
we
are
overall
on
cost
versus
versus
budget.
And
surprisingly,
we
are
at
25
percent
of
our
budget
with
25
percent
of
the
75
percent
of
the
budget,
with
25
percent
of
the
money
to
go
and
25
of
the
time
to
go.
E
So,
although
there
may
be
some
unknown
code
costs
they're
going
to
hit,
it
looks
to
me
like
we're,
going
to
be
on
budget
for
self-insured
insurance
for
this
year,
but
I'll
we
just
don't
have
the
right
people
here
to
answer
the
answer.
Your
questions
on
the
insurance.
E
Thank
you
mike
I'll,
get
somebody
here.
The
next
meeting
that
can
talk
you
through
the
health
insurance.
What
we're
doing
about
the
medical
insurance,
I
I
do
encourage
you
to
we've
got
people
here
that
can
that
can
respond
to
your
questions
on
the
cta
on
the
library
in
particular.
So
if
we,
if
any
of
those,
if
you
have
any
questions
on
any
of
those
I'd,
love
I'd
love
to
get
them
up
here.
To
answer
your
questions
and
I'll
have
not
just
not
sit
here
for
the
next
hour
waiting
to
be
asked.
D
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment,
though,
then,
generally
on
what
we're
looking
at
non-departmental
today,
as
we
are
any
of
these
budget
sheets
and
workshops.
This
is
a
proposed
budget
and
although
it
can
change,
this
isn't
a
guarantee
for
any
of
the
non-departmentals
that
we're
talking
to
today,
because
I
mean
we're
under
unprecedented
waters
here
chartered
waters-
and
you
know
these
numbers
can
even
change.
We'd
love
for
them
to
go
up.
D
B
B
Station
number
three
and
it's
roughly
25
000,
it's
really
repaying
the
building
itself.
The
windows
are
rotting
out.
A
lot
of
things
fallen,
important
and
didn't
really
have
any
maintenance
or
anything
for
that
building.
So
that
was
roughly
what
they
decided.
It
would
cost
to
repair
everything
just
bring
the
building
back
into
shape.
You
know
we
spend
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
on
the
senior
here's
another
building
built
in
1936
city
of
buxy
and
all
it
needs
is
25.
B
H
B
The
gutters
and
everything
is
just
rotted
out,
so
the
water
just
runs
through
everything.
Gonna
ruin
another
whole
building.
So
if
we
get
that
fixed
for
roughly
25
000,
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
to
add
back
to
the
don,
but
it
has
to
be
put
in
here:
25
000
repaired
of
western
fire
station
number
three.
B
Now,
if
y'all
like
joe
buddy,
wants
to
speak
about
that,
he
could
tell
you
because
him
and
I
went
through
that
building
and
some
of
the
stuff's
so
bad
joe.
I
No
sir,
the
windows
are
wooden
windows.
They
were
put
in
well
before
katrina
around
2002..
They
are
rotted.
They
just
need
to
be
replaced.
I
Taken
care
of
they've
been
painted
regularly,
they
just
they're
just
wore
out
a
hot
water
heater.
We
haven't
had
a
working
hot
water
heater
in
five
years
in
in
the
museum.
These
are
just
a
few
things.
You
know
that
we
we
try
to
keep
everything
up
ourselves,
the
board,
the
museum
board
and
the
firefighters,
but
there
are
some
things
that
we
that
are
past
our
you.
I
Aren't
able
to
to
get
the
money
for
and
and
so
we're
just
asking
for
the
money
we'll
we'll
you
know
to
buy
these
things
and
we'll
do
the
installations
and
stuff
ourselves
to
save
the
city
money
we're
looking
at
ways
to
save
the
city
money.
But
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
come
before
y'all
every
year
and
ask
for
money.
We
raise
our
own
funds
to
to
to
to
keep
the
building
or
the
museum
going
and
so
we're
just.
This
is
going
back
into
the
building.
I
The
city
owns
the
building
and
we're
just
asking.
If
you
would
consider
that
yeah.
B
I
The
windows
are
falling
out
literally
falling
out.
We've
got
some
of
them
screwed
in
nailed
in
because
they're
literally
falling
out
they're
rotted.
To
that
point,
the
glass
is
not
staying
in
the
you
know
in
the
frame.
So
it's
a
pretty
pretty
bad
situation.
Like
I
said
we
haven't
had
a
a
working
hot
water
heater
in
five
years.
I
So
that's.
B
C
It's
more
of
a
capital
kind
of
item.
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
all
spent
ever.
You
know
all
one
time,
but
it's
called
the
capital
investment,
so
I
mean
we
may
be
able
to
do
some
things
and
as
we
look
at
the
you
know,
the
30
fund
and
some
other
things
that
there
may
be
a
little
wiggle
room
here
or
there,
so
it
might
not
be
in
depart
non-departmental.
It
may
be
in
another
area
of
the
the
budget
we'll
be
looking
at.
H
H
B
Then,
like
I
said
it's
going
to
put
it
all
into
the
building,
the
other
thing
I'll
bring
up
is
we
had
we
dedicated
a
golden
fisherman
and
that's
part
of
the
city-owned
statue
sitting
on
our
land
front
high
museum
and
talked
to
you
about
this
before
they
still
owe
roughly
35
000
from
the
letter.
I
brought
a
letter
to
mike
to
show
him
that
right.
E
I
I
did
it
councilman
one
of
the
things
the
mayor
just
asked
me
is:
did
they
not
or
did
they
get
a
grant
a
thailand's
grant
some.
C
35
000
at
some
point
I
was
coming
to
us
or
them,
but
there
was
a
35
000
last
year.
The
last
I
don't
know
what
fy
year
was,
but
there's
a
35
000
for
the
golden
fisherman.
It
was
either
delivered
to
us
or
them
yeah.
B
B
C
C
E
H
E
I
will
look
at
it,
we're
still
waiting
for
the
2020
title
and
grant
list
it
hasn't
come
out
yet
because
dmr's
budget
is
is
on
hold.
So
so
we've
got
a
bunch
of
projects
that
we
asked
for
too.
We
don't
know
about
yet
so
it
could
be.
Possibly
let
me
drill
down
and
see
if
they'd
ask
for
some
more
money
in
this
year's
thailand's
and
if
not
we'll,
come
back
to
council
and
ask
council
if
they
want
to
donate,
then
add
add
to
the
non-department
list.
I
mean
that
yeah,
but
I.
E
That's
it
seafood
museum.
Does
you
know,
we've
been
pretty
generous
with
them.
A
B
You
have
the
cruising
where
you
cut
it
to
5
000..
Are
they
still
having
that
this
year
and.
B
E
We
we
gave
him
20
a
couple
years
ago.
We
gave
him
10
last
year.
They
gave
him
10
the
last
two
years
and-
and
this
is
a
very
arbitrary
effort
on
our
part-
we
just
went
through
every
single
that
we
had
every
single
ass.
We
had
and
cut
it
in
half,
because
there
wasn't
any
science
to
this.
We
just
cut
everybody
in
half.
G
B
E
Well,
you
know,
budgets
are
just
budgets
and
you
know
if
if
we
were
to
have
a
real
positive
fall
and
the
cruise
and
the
coast,
people
for
example,
came
to
us
and
said
you
know:
can
you
rethink
that
the
council
always
has
the
option
to
do
it,
to
amend
in
that
budget,
to
ask
us
to
amend
the
budget
so
but
based
on
where
we
are
right
now
we
just
felt
we
needed
to
whack
it
everywhere.
We
could
to
try
and
get
the
number
down.
A
All
right,
thank
you
mike
open
the
floor
to
one
of
the
councilmen
on
my
right-hand
side.
If
either
have
discussion.
E
If
can,
if
I
might
be
able
to
help
here
on
something
council,
president,
I've
got
a
I've
got
a
letter
in
front
of
me
from
a
cta
asking
for
who
gave
us
a
substantial
reduction
in
their
ask
this
year,
and
I
I
think,
since
they've
made
the
trip
trip
to
to
be.
H
A
Well,
that
was
my
next
step
was
to
ask
a
representative
from
the
libraries
to
come
and
and
mr
coggins
from
the
cta
to
present
him
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Mr
coggins.
If
you
would,
if
you
care
to
speak
to
the
council,
if
not,
we
understand,
but
if
you
do
just
come
up
state
your
name,
your
title
and
position
with
cta
and
sign
in
for
me.
G
G
G
The
mayor
asked
us
if
we
could
go
out
and
get
some
federal
money
to
supplement
city
of
biloxi
local
operating
subsidy
because
of
the
covet
pandemic,
and
we
did
that.
So
we
got
some
federal
money
to
supplement
the
shortage.
This
year
we
didn't
reduce
any
service
and
we've
got
some
money
to
help
supplement
what
we're
asking
for
from
you
for
fiscal
year,
2021.
G
so
going
into
fiscal
year,
2021
we're
asking
for
a
local
subsidy
of
two
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars,
which
is
sixty
eight
thousand
dollars
less
than
the
two
hundred
and
eighty
eight
thousand
you're
paying
this
year.
So
we
had
a
thirteen
thousand
dollar
shortage
this
fiscal
year
on
top
of
the
42
and
then
going
into
this
year,
we're
actually
asking
for
68
000
less
than
the
288
you're
paying
now.
So
we
did
what
we
were
asked
to
do.
A
Well
before
I
don't
have
a
question
more
of
a
comment
just
thank
you.
We
appreciate
your
work
great
job.
Well,
if
anybody
else
has
anything
for
mr
coggins.
G
It's
a
cares,
act
grant.
It
was
all
so
you
got
the
people
and
that
big
3
trillion
dollar
bill
every
transit
system
in
the
united
states
got
a
little
bit
of
money
to
help
us
get
through
this.
H
J
G
J
J
J
J
J
we're
offering
the
same
number
of
libraries
providing
more
services,
but
we're
we're
doing
it
less
than
we
were
over
15
years
ago.
So
we've
been
making
cuts
year
after
year
after
year
as
much
as
we
can
internally.
Some
of
it's
been.
You
know:
staff
attrition
replacing
with
lower
paid
positions,
not
getting
as
many
professional
staff.
Some
of
it's
been
everything
from
the
kind
of
paper
we
use
the
kind
of
pens.
J
This
is
my
favorite
time
of
year,
because
walmart
sells
pens
for
10
cents
for
a
pack.
We
stock
them
in
pens
for
the
entire
year.
That
sort
of
thing
we
cut
full-time
positions
and
made
part-time
positions.
So
we're
still,
you
know,
16
years
later,
we're
still
operating
less
than
we
did,
but
providing
more
services.
J
J
This
can
have
several
effects.
The
main
effect
will
be
possibly
affecting
our
personnel
incentive
grant
that
comes
from
the
state
now
this
won't
happen
immediately.
That'd
be
in
about
two
years.
We
received
two
hundred
000
a
year
from
them.
Any
reduction
on
on
the
local
level
means
that
that's
going
to
be
evaluated
and
we
could
possibly
lose
some
or
all
of
that
money
depending
on
how
they
look
at
it.
So
that's
going
to
affect
what
our
personnel
incentive
grant
from
the
state
is
in
the
next
two
years.
J
If
they're
paying
you
know
for,
if
their
budgets
are
going
towards
the
new
items,
city
biloxi
residents
are
going
to
be
pulling
requests
from
those
cities
holdings.
So
it
becomes
a
bit
of
a
more
spread
out
burden
than
you
would
think.
The
way
that
our
library
system
is
set
up,
it's
feasible,
but
it's
not
pretty.
J
J
If
I
don't
know,
if
you've
ever
sat
in
a
mcdonald's
parking
lot,
trying
to
fill
out
a
job
application,
but
it's
no
fun
trying
to
get
free,
wi-fi
somewhere
and
use.
You
know
an
old
phone.
If
you
happen
to
have
one
to
try
and
look
for
a
job,
it's
practically
impossible,
not
to
mention
the
assistance
that
we
provide
in
helping
them
do
those
things.
J
J
E
Whatever
it
was,
and
we
we
cut
it
to
707,
which
had
been
the
the
amount
from
the
year
before
this
year,
they
asked
again
for
the
707
and
when
we
met
to
discuss
that,
I'm
explained
that
we're
in
a
pretty
tight
fiscal
situation
here
this
year,
and
could
they
give
anything
up?
What
would
they
be
willing
to
give
up?
E
But
I
I
mentioned
that
there
are
a
lot
of
friends
of
the
library
that
have
lots
of
books
on
their
shelf
they've
been
reading
during
covet.
Maybe
a
lot
of
them
would
come
in
and
bring
bring
their
books,
but
that,
if,
in
the
spirit
of
trying
to
help
us
all
get
the
numbers
down,
what
if
that
was
something
they
could
give
up,
then
then
we
would
probably
take
them
up
on
that.
So
the
number
that
you
see
on
the
sheet
in
front
of
you
is
the
707
minus
the
50
58
0603.
E
I
asked
if
there
were
any
other
options
that
would
really
reduce
the
budget.
Remember
that
we
have
four
libraries.
Gulfport
has
only
two,
but
both
of
the
gulfport
libraries
are
in
buildings
owned
by
the
by
the
harrison
county.
So
in
reality,
in
addition
to
what
we
provide
them,
we
also
their
love
in
kind
services
such
as
janitorial
service
maintenance,
fire
fire
control
and
fire
suppression
systems.
E
J
And
also
we
are
if
we
do
end
up
on
cutting
staff,
we
are
still
responsible,
for
you
know
at
least
26
weeks
worth
of
unemployment.
So
it's
going
to
be
quite
a
while
before
we'll
see
any
savings.
If
we
did
that
and
again
you'd
be
you'd,
be
limiting
access
to
people
who
really
need
it.
The
most.
E
H
E
A
Number
it
it
is
currently
648..
If
you
would
refresh
my
memory.
I
know
I
asked
this
question.
I
had
my
my
clerks
asked
this
question
during
some
of
the
shutdown
period
mark,
sherry
library
was
shut
down
and
the
lights
were
still
on
and
they
gave
me
some
reason
for
why
the
lights
remained
on
and
there's
a
lot.
J
And
they
were
turned
off
at
your
request
and
we
were
broken
in
after
the
second
break-in.
They
were
turned
off
and
were
broken
to
twice
after
that,
but
that
has
been
the
person
who
did
that
has
been
caught.
Thank
you.
J
A
And
I
appreciate
that,
but
regardless
of
who
pays
it,
that's
still
capital
that
could
be
spent
on
something
else
if
it's
being
wasted.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know-
and
you
responded-
and
I
appreciate
your
your
candor
on
that-
a
couple
couple
comments
and
then
I'll
open
the
floor
to
anyone
else.
G
A
A
To
a
librarian
we're
not
like
that
anymore,
but
with
regards
to
filling
out
applications
and
things
of
that
nature
have
we
sought
funding?
These
are
jobs
of
like
the
wind
job
center,
and
things
like
that.
I
remember
there
have
been
times
in
my
life
when
I
needed
help
and
to
find
jobs
and
do
different
things,
and
I
would
go
to
the
wynn
job
center
and
I
would
do
that.
I
would
get
on
a
computer
there.
I'd
fill
out
applications,
I
would
get
advice
and
and
information.
A
J
What
we
hear
from
patrons
on
a
regular
basis,
is
they
can't
get
to
the
wench
center
if
they
can
get
to
it,
that
they're
not
getting
the
kind
of
assistance
they
need.
They're
oftentimes
referred
to
us
to
help
them,
and
sometimes
it's
not
just
hey.
What
do
I
put
in
this
line
questions?
Sometimes
it
could
just
be.
They
need
that
access.
J
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
walk
to
our
locations
or
ride
the
bus
to
our
locations.
Catch
rides.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
scrambling
for
gas
money,
so
it's
a
combination
of
the
physical
access
and
also
whether
or
not
they're
comfortable
who
they're
who
they're
talking
to
and
if
they
feel
welcome
and
if
they
feel
and
I'm
not
saying
the
wind
center
doesn't
do
that.
I'm
just
saying
that
we
are
another
place
for
that
and
for
internet
access
in
general.
J
A
Because
if
I
say,
if
I
say
look,
I
support
libraries
but
I'm
not
big
on
funding
for
that
purpose
under
the
umbrella
of
a
library,
then
I
get
demonized,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
when
a
librarian
comes
to
me
and
says
we
need
750
000,
so
people
can
come
in
and
use
the
internet
and
fill
out
applications
to
me.
That's
not
a
library
to
me.
That's
a
win
job
center.
That's.
A
Every
single
thing
that
you
said
that
you,
the
emotional
connection
that
you
were
making
with
us
when
you
were
telling
us
the
needs
every
one
of
those
things
was
about
somebody
needing
access
to
internet
or
assistance
filling
out
applications.
He
even
talked
about
sitting
in
a
mcdonald's,
so
I
get
that
there
are
people
that
need
those
services,
but
are
those
services
of
a
library?
How
many?
A
How
short
are
we
in
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
trying
to
be
the
devil's
advocate
so
much
as
just
understand
what
we
need
in
the
community,
how
much
of
your
time
and
how
much
of
your
space
in
the
library
is
used
to
fill
up
with
with
element
with
classes
from
the
elementary
school
or
or
with
people
coming
in,
to
write
book
reports
and
actually
using
books?
How
much
of
that
usage
is
going
on
in
the
library.
J
I
can
give
you
the
circulation
statistics
if
you'd
like
that,
I
can
send
that
to
you,
or
I
can
read
them
out
to
you
here
per
location
of
how
many
items
are
actually
checked
out
how
many
computer
sessions
we
have.
I
can
even
break
it
down
for
you
if
you
wanted
to
how
many
board
books
for
the
babies
versus
how
many
mysteries
or
how
many
large
print
books.
J
Now
we
don't
go
into
specifics
with
our
patrons
about
exactly
what
they're
doing
we
don't
get
too
deep
into
demographics
or
the
reasons
why
people
are
using
our
resources.
What
we
do
look
at
is
what
the
usages
are,
what
the
usages
are
and
then
are
we
meeting
the
needs?
Do
we
have
what
people
are
looking
for?
J
But
we
do,
of
course,
have
our
limits
as
far
as
how
much
assistance
we
can
give
with
individual
problems,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
helping
you,
but
I
can
give
you
usage
statistics
if.
A
J
That's
not
something
that
I
can
put
a
quantitative
measure
on
at
the
moment.
What
I
can
do
is
I
can
tell
you
how
we're
doing
currently
on
an
average
compared
to
everyone
else
in
the
state.
Currently,
I
can't
tell
you
how
that's
going
to
change
in
the
next
year
when
we
don't
have
as
many
new
materials.
J
A
A
B
J
D
D
Okay,
so
it's
built
out
quarterly.
As
I
stated
earlier,
we
can't
guarantee
this
amount.
This
is
the
amount
that
we're
budgeting
and
as
we
disburse
quarterly
that
we'd
love
to
increase
it.
If
there's
a
need-
and
we
had
extra
funds
just
like
councilman
lawrence-
talked
about
certain
events
that
are
depending
on
us
to
to
help
out
and
and
that
should
help
the
city,
but
we're
we're
in
uncharted
waters
here
for
this
budget
year.
D
So
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
in
this
workshop
these
things
that
we're
talking
about
you
know
we
may
disburse
that
first
payment.
You
need
to
have
contingency
plans
and
I
would
tell
that
to
anybody
else
that
is
getting
quarterly
or
monthly
payments.
You
need
to
have
contingency
plans
if
this
money
isn't
available
for
the
city
to
disperse
with
you
we'll
do
our
best
to
honor
this
budget.
The
best
way
we
can,
but
in
the
event
that
we
can't
you've,
got
to
have
your
contingency
plans
in
in
effect.
D
Hopefully,
we'll
have
the
money
you
know
to
to
honor
what
we're
telling
you
when
we
get
a
final
version
of
our
budget,
but
I
just
I
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
that's
coming
to
this
council,
depending
on
these
funds.
D
E
B
E
For
electricity
we
pay
for
janitorial
services,
we
pay,
we
pay
to
maintain
the
fire
alarm
system
and
the
buildings,
because
we
own
the
buildings
we
pay
for
the
fire
suppression
system
to
test
because
we
own
the
buildings.
There
are
some
things
that
that
we
really
have
to
do
just
because
it's
an
asset
that
we
need
to
take
care
of.
E
We
this
last
year,
you
you,
because
things
were
getting
a
little
rocky
at
the
with
people
breaking
in
and
so
forth.
We
paid
for
security.
You
will
notice
that
the
line
has
been
zeroed
out
right
now.
So
at
this
point,
we're
not
past
the
first
end
of
september.
We're
not
providing
security.
Any
longer.
Gulfport
does
provide
security
in
their
two
libraries,
because
they've
had
similar
issues,
so
it's
possible,
they
may
or
we
may
go
back
and
if
their
problems
ask
to
add
security
to
the
con
to
the
library
budget.
E
Right
so
so
there
are
three
million
dollar
budget
now
remember.
This
is
like
a
12-way
contract
that
we
have
a
arrangement
with
a
library
system
and
and
that's
us
and
harrison
county
diabetes,
gulfport
pastors
jan
all
members
of
the
and
contributing
to
the
libraries
harrison
county
gives
right
out
a
million
dollars,
nine
hundred
twenty
nine
nine
hundred
twenty
nine
thousand
we're
the
second
largest.
We
have
four
libraries
remember
and
we
were
at
707
last
year,
we're
we're
looking
at
about
about
650
this
year.
E
D
H
E
No
that's
outside,
so
these
other
in-kind
services
have
never
we've
never
budgeted
those
separately.
This
is
something
that
we
changed.
Recent
in
the
last
two
years,
we've
been
breaking
out
all
the
in-kind
services
to
the
museum,
so
we
could
see
how
much
it
would
be.
So
you
notice
in
your
non-department
budget,
for
the
war
museum
or
the
seafood
museum,
you
have
a
maintenance
line.
You
have
a
utility
line
so
so
that
we
can
begin
to
see
what
the
museums
actually
cost
us,
but.
J
Not
part
of
them
we're
an
independent
agency,
we're
receiving
our
funds
from
the
majority
of
our
funds
come
from
the
cities.
We
also
get
county
and
state
and
some
federal
funds
as
well.
So
the
base
of
all
of
our
funding
comes
from
the
cities,
and
then
the
county
pays
an
additional
amount
that
gets
spread
throughout
all
of
the
libraries
and
through
the
headquarters
and
the
administration.
E
Or
the
harrison
county
library
system
to
which
we
all
some
20
years
ago,
signed
a
an
mou
that
binds
us
together
as
a
system.
Okay,
all.
B
E
B
B
E
Well,
we
could
break
those
out
in
this
budget
year
would
be
guessing
if
we're
not
tracking
it
right
now,
we'd
be
guessing
a
little
bit,
but
that's
what
we
did
in
the
museum
so
the
first
year.
We
must
have
guessed
pretty
well
right
now,
because
you
see
there
are
no
changes
in
the
amounts
we've
got
for
the
maintenance
and
the
utilities
for
the
museum.
So
we've
got
that
figured
out
now,
so
we
know
what
they.
We
know,
for
example,
that
the
ore
museum
doesn't
just
cost
us.
E
H
B
B
H
E
C
C
That's
just
the
line
item
that
you're
saying,
but
that's
the
detail
year
to
date
and
what
how
much
of
we
spent
this
year,
which
was
through
period
10.?
The
change
was
59
000,
so
the
results,
at
least
from
this
contractual
thing,
648
000.,
but
the
thing
that
will
tie
it
all
together
is
the
the
project
number
and
it
says
harrison.
A
I
think
he
was
just
concerned
with
all
the
other
services
in
kind
or
otherwise,
that
we
would
provide.
A
B
A
E
For
the
record,
I've
heard
no
changes
proposed
by
the
council
other
than
the
councilman
lawrence's
recommendation
that
we
include
some
money
for
the
golden
fisherman
that
we
had
some
conversation
about
that.
But
I
don't
think
there
was
a
decision
and
other
than
that.
I
I
did
promise
I'd
get
the
medical
insurance
people
here
at
our
next
meeting.
To
talk
to
you
we'll
do
that
during
the
mayor's
report
during
the
next
council
meeting.
E
That
will
be
a
night
council
meeting
right
and
so
he'd
be
there
to
answer
talk
to
talk
to
the
medical
insurance,
okay.
Other
than
that
it
sounds
to
me
like
we
we're
close
to
having
a
budget
here
for
non-department.
H
F
H
F
A
F
A
I
think
we'll
we'll
give
you
the
opportunity
to
speak
the
majority
of
the
time.
Then
mr
says
I
think
five.
A
Well,
team
tisdale
lawrence-
I
I
think
an
hour
if
we
need
to
go.