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From YouTube: Special called City Council meeting, June 4, 2019
Description
A special called city council meeting was held on Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 5 p.m. regarding an application request for a change in zoning district classification for land on Atkinson Road for a planned development. To see the agenda, visit https://www.biloxi.ms.us/agendas/citycouncil/2019/060419/060419agendaspecreg.pdf.
B
A
A
I'm
gonna
ask
the
council
if
they
have
any
questions.
First,
then,
once
the
council
speaks
I
want
all
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
for
well,
we
got
a
total
of
ten
minutes
for
people
who
are
for
ten
minutes.
Further
people
who
are
gifts
then
we're
gonna
have
five-minute
rebuttals
each
for
the
people,
who's
four
and
the
people
who
was
a
gift
and
then
we'll
move
on
from
there.
D
Suggest
that
maybe
you
increase
the
those
folks
who
want
to
speak
in
favor
in
opposition
I
would
urge
any
to
increase
that
from
10
minutes
to
maybe
as
much
as
20
minutes
each
with
with
a
5
minute.
Rebuttal
I
just
know
that
this
is
a
hot
topic
at
the
west
end
of
town.
But
those
are
my
thoughts.
I
show.
C
A
We'll
keep
the
Tianjin
and
5/5
that'll,
give
us
15
minutes
each
total
of
30
minutes
total
okay
with
anyone
on
my
left
and
I'm
gonna.
Give
each
person
three
minutes
to
speak
three
minutes
on
this
one
to
speak,
so
we
can
have
some
some
form
of
time
limit.
All
the
people
who
are
four
come
on
up
to
the
microphone.
You
got
three
minutes
per
person.
E
My
name
is
Dennis
Stifel
I'm,
the
project
engineer
and
applicant
for
the
project.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
explanation.
Most
of
the
folks
here
have
have
become
aware
of
the
project.
We've
had
meetings
and
discussions
on
the
project,
but
some
of
you
guys
were
not
at
the
meetings
that
we've
had
and
so
I
thought
I'd.
Just
brief
you
on
some
of
the
basic
details
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes,
we're
talking
about
a
43
acre
piece
of
property
at
the
south
end
of
Popp's
Ferry,
Road
bridge
and.
E
B
F
A
E
Okay,
I'll
just
hold
it:
okay
going
so
the
properties
on
the
east
side
of
pop
state
and
the
north
side
of
Atkinson
Road
is
essentially
tucked
in
the
corner
there.
On
the
south
side
of
the
pops
railroad
bridge,
it's
owned
by
dr.
Pertwee
see
the
properties
fairly
wood.
It's
been
there's
a
nice
attractive
trees
on
it,
live
oak,
trees,
magnolia,
trees,
there's
some
commercial
property
within
this
43
acres
and
there's
also
some
single-family
residential
zone
property
in
this
43
acre
tract
and
essentially
what
we're
doing
is
we're
proposing
and
you'll
see
pictures.
E
We
have
exhibits
that
we
can
show
you,
but
essentially
we
have
a
piece
of
property
that
we're
trying
to
transition
from
sale
or
a
state
subdivision
which
is
existing
and
built
out
to
Popp's
Ferry
Road,
which
is
heavily
traffic
and
commercial,
and
so
the
idea
is
to
start
single-family,
residential
adjacent
to
the
single-family
residential
area
and
then
transition
to
multi-family
and
then
commercial
when
you're
on
the
adjacent
about
railroad
or
close
to
it.
We
believe
we've
got
a
very
nice
man
here,
it's
transitional.
E
It
starts
with
single-family
residential,
where
it
backs
up
to
the
existing
single-family
residential.
It
transitions
into
a
little
higher
density
and
multi-family,
and
then
commercial
adjacent
to
mollify
road.
There's,
a
approximate
width
of
a
600
feet,
minimum
between
the
sale
of
state
subdivision
residents,
property
liens
and
the
and
the
multifamily.
So
everything
within
600
feet.
E
The
existing
residents
in
sailor
estates
is
single
family
residential.
The
idea
is
to
help
protect
the
the
folks
that
live
there
in
SL
of
states,
all
the
the
design
will
be
high
in
the
where
they're
there.
The
plan
here
is
not
to
have
just
inexpensive
tract
homes
there,
the
the
the
developer
wants
to
do
a
heavily
landscaped
project
with
with
big
green
areas,
park,
spaces,
water
features,
lakes.
Things
like
that
he's
mr.
E
We've
done
a
lot
of
projects
in
the
city
that
you're
well
aware
of
and
and
I
would
say
this
is
as
good,
if
not
nicer
than
any
of
the
ones
that
we've
done
before
very
similar
in
transition.
You
know
with
all
my
transitional
zone
and
or
transitional
project
here
we
did
long
Falls
and
tail
roads,
which
is
a
beautiful
community.
We've
done
the
you
know
the
the
arbor
Landing
apartment
complex
right
there,
next
to
it,
and
then
right
next
to
it
is
the
Walmart
neighborhood.
So
you
see
the
transition
from
commercial
to.
G
E
A
B
H
H
H
Let
me
take
a
breath
we
had.
We
got
caught
in
that
traffic
infrastructure
is
not
currently
sustainable.
After
the
funeral
of
Robert
McKee
Tharin
I
was
near
the
corner
of
Atkinson
and
pops
ferry
trying
to
cross
the
street
traffic
was
backed
up
everywhere.
Then
the
bridge
went
up.
Imagine
the
backup
Atkinson
all
the
way
to
Jim
money,
pops
ferry
to
pass
Road
I,
don't
know
how
far
it
went
down,
Old,
Bay
or
on
the
north
side
of
the
bridge,
but
believe
me
it
was
extensive.
People
were
patient
because
they
had
just
honoured
a
fallen
hero.
H
Unfortunately,
this
is
the
same
kind
of
backups
that
will
occur.
Every
day,
with
the
inclusion
of
this
very
dense
project,
this
project
is
an
excellent
example
of
putting
the
horse
before
the
cart.
Why
not
start
with
the
bridge
and
build
out
from
there?
What's
the
hurry,
we
have
been
shown
to
different
plants.
The
one
presented
to
the
Planning
Commission
has
22
Lots
on
the
Sailor,
Road
fence
line
and
other
the
other
presented
to
us
at
the
ward
meeting
shows
18
also
that
plant
legend
on
the
one
presented
to
the
Planning
Commission
says
apartments.
H
On
the
one
presented
to
the
ward
meeting,
apartments
were
omitted
from
the
legend,
which
is
it
bait
and
switch
I
have
several
other
objections
about
this
project
and
have
little
time
to
discuss
them.
I
realize
you
cannot
fight
City
Hall,
but
can
we
take
up
this
battle
in
2024
stated
in
the
deed
restriction?
Lastly,
can
someone
please
tell
me
where
the
meeting
was
advertised?
Also,
the
two
little
signs
on
the
property
are
from
the
March
planning
and
zoning
meeting.
No
mention
of
this
meeting
at
all.
This
affects
more
than
just
our
little
neighborhood.
C
I
This
is
supposed
to
be
low
density
area
that
was
put
aside,
and
this
is
not
a
low-density
development.
The
idea
is
absurd.
If
I
can
be
frank
about
it,
the
traffic
already
on
a
concern-
Road
is
just
horrible,
particularly
when
school
is
in
and
school
buses
are
running
and
the
bridge
is
up.
You
can't
get
out.
I
have
to
also
the
idea
that
this
is
going
to
be
developed.
I
challenge
you
to
do
an
environmental
study
on
this
piece
of
property.
I
It
used
to
be
that
we
could
walk
through
there
and
there
are
picture
plants
on
there.
I
know
that
doesn't
sound
like
much,
but
those
are
protected.
Native
Mississippi
species
on
that
property
I,
don't
know
if
there's
been
any
kind
of
a
study
done
on
that.
Schools
are
already
overcrowded
in
this
area.
Where
are
those
children
going
to
go?
That's
going
to
put
more
buses
on
the
road
and
more
traffic
busing
them
back
and
forth
to
where
they
need
to
go
I?
I
Don't
know
if
there's
been
a
study
about
the
impact
on
the
school
system,
I'm
assuming
they
would
have
to
go
to
pops
very
Elementary.
I
also
think
that
until
we
have
a
idea
of
what's
going
to
be
happening
with
the
Pops
Ferry
Bridge
and
this
development
is
allowed
to
go
forward
and
you
have
commercial
development
on
that
pops
ferry
strip.
What's
going
to
happen
when
that
bridge
comes
through,
will
there
be
any
kind
of
buyout
with
that
property?
I
What's
going
to
go
on
with
that,
this
is
just
I'm,
not
against
development,
but
what
I
think
a
hundred
and
ten
houses
on
that
piece
of
property,
plus
apartments,
plus
townhomes,
plus
a
strip
of
commercial
development?
It's
ludicrous!
It's
just
too
much
for
that
piece
of
property
in
that
neighborhood.
Thank
you.
J
G
Have
a
different
problem
than
a
lot
of
these
other
people,
I
dip
on
sale
or
drive,
I
leave
it
for
37
I,
backup,
right
or
a
phase
one.
It's
going
to
start
now.
We've
lived
there
for
22
years.
We
had
the
pool.
We've
always
had
that
pool
there
and
I
have
a
screen
enclosure
over
the
pool.
We
have
spent
thousands
of
dollars
this
year,
remar
siding
and
retiling
in
getting
that
pool
back
in
shape
and
ready
to
go
this
year,
I
would
I
have
a
enclosure
over
the
pool.
I
have
my
pool.
G
Don't
know
what
to
do
about
it,
except
that
do
you
lift
it
if
I
have
to
I
will
get
people
to
come
and
reek
lean?
It
I
know
that
that
dust
is
going
to
affect
my
pool
because
it'll
land
on
dami
enclosure
and
when
it
rains
it's
going
to
come
right
down
into
my
pool.
That's
like
clay
that
dust
is
it's
going
to
clog
everything
up,
so
I'll
get
it
cleaned
up,
and
that
happens
and
these
people
that
cleaning
up
must
submit
a
bill
to
me,
and
you
can
tell
dr.
K
K
K
I'm,
a
Robert,
Pierce
I
live
at
4:37
Saylor
Drive
I'm
here
today
to
ask
the
council
to
keep
the
zoning
on
the
Bertuzzi
property,
as
it
is
I
came
here
23
years
ago
to
work
at
the
Biloxi
VA
and
bought
a
home
in
a
nice
quiet
neighborhood
with
approximately
10,000
square
foot,
Lots
and
I've
been
very
happy
there.
The
way
it
is
this
change
in
zoning
is
not
gonna
help
us
any
that
people
that
live
there.
K
It's
going
to
be
apartments,
condominiums,
don't
know
how
high
didn't
buy
my
property
to
live
in
the
neighborhood
like
that.
Even
though
it's
going
to
be
brand
new,
my
understanding
was
that
mr.
Seiler
and
dr.
Berg
to
see
signed
an
agreement
that
there
would
be
no
development
under
to
seize
property
until
2024
and
that
was
filed
and
notarized.
Whatever
else
you
have
to
do,
the
council
should
have
a
copy
of
it.
I
would
like
to
see
if
you
can
enforce
that.
K
A
E
That
we
had
with
ward
3
a
few
a
couple
a
few
weeks
ago
and
just
quickly
touching
on
some
of
the
comments
that
I
just
heard.
Regarding
this,
these
the
deed
restriction.
We
are
not
ignoring
the
deed
restriction.
We
know
very
well
what
the
deed
restriction
says
that
they
are
correct.
There
is
a
deep
restriction.
It
does
stipulate
to
the
Year
2024,
but
it
specifically
says
that
everything
within
the
600
feet
of
the
West
property
line
of
sale
or
States
is
to
be
single-family
residential.
That's
what
we've
done.
E
We
have
complied
with
that
specifically,
so
we
are
not
ignoring
that
deed
restriction
additionally
to
to
make
sure
we're
not
confusing
anyone.
We
actually
contacted
mr.
Seiler.
We
had
a
letter
in
hand
from
mr.
Sawyer
confirming
that
we
have
met
the
intent
of
the
gentleman's
agreement
and
the
deep
restriction.
So
he
agrees
and
dr.
Bertuzzi
both
agree
that
the
deed
restriction
requirements
have
been
satisfied
with
the
plan
as
its
proposed.
E
There
was
a
comment
regarding
the
bridge
by
the
way
have
we
taken
that
into
account?
The
answer
is
yes,
the
bridge
right
away.
We
were
able
to
get
millions
from
engineers
that
have
worked
with
MDOT,
and
we
have
incorporated
that
the
layout
that
we
have
before
the
council
today
takes
into
account
the
additional
why
the
way
that
will
be
acquired
for
purposes
of
building
the
bridge
so
that
that
will
not
be
an
issue
in
the
future.
E
There
was
a
comment
briefly
regarding
rentals
and
apartments.
There
were.
There
are
no
apartments,
even
though
the
there
are
some
folks
that
things
do
you
think
there
are
apartments
there.
There
are
no
apartments
proposed
on
this
project
site.
There
are
townhouses
there,
our
economy,
nians,
but
there's
no
rental
units
per
se,
and
and
that's
that's
the
the
direction
that
the
developer
would
like
to
pursue
there.
E
There
was
a
comment
about
environmental
study.
We
do
environmental
studies
on
every
project.
We
do.
We
do
extensive
surveys
on
not
on
our
wetlands.
There
are
some
wetlands
on
the
property.
We
will
deal
with
that
through
the
proper
channels,
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
the
DEQ.
There
are
close
to
a
dozen
engineers
that
have
to
review
these
plans
and
biologists
and
that
standard
on
every
project
we
do,
and
so
yes,
there
will
be
environmental
study.
It
will
not
only
account
for
the
wetlands
impacts,
but
it
will
also
account
for
endangered
species
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
There
was
a
question
regarding
easements
and
and
at
the
war3
meeting
and
also
I
think
I
mentioned
it
was
I
heard
someone
mentioned
about
their
concern
about
the
easements
there's
an
existing
15-foot
easement
and
we
have
a
copy
of
the
Sailor
estates
plat,
but
there's
an
existing
15-foot
easement
that
is
situated
within
the
backyards
of
the
Sailor
state
subdivision,
but
there's
also
an
additional
25-foot
easement
that
is
positioned
adjacent
to
the
same
property
line,
the
rear
property
line.
But
it
goes
into
mr.
producer,
dr.
E
producers,
property,
so
there's
a
total
of
a
40
feet
of
easements.
Both
you
know
the
15-foot
easement
with
NL
said
the
Sailor
state
subdivision
and
the
25
feet
within
the
dr.
British
property.
So
the
total
of
40
feet.
They're
no
permanent
structures
can
be
constructed
within
this
40
foot
easement,
and
so
the
houses
will
be
at
least
that
far
any
permanent
structures
will
be
at
least
that
far
away
from
any
permanent
structures
in
the
sale
of
state.
So
there
is
an
input
likely
they'll
be
farther
than
that
away,
but
at
least
that
far.
E
And
as
far
as
traffic
goes,
we
have
discussed
this
at
some
length
at
the
at
the
meeting
and
war.
Three
and
I'll
just
want
to
reiterate
that
it's
that
we've,
the
the
developer,
has
submitted.
In
writing.
His
willingness
to
work
with
the
city
cooperate
with
the
city
in
providing
additional
right-of-way,
if
necessary,
to
widen
and
lengthen
designated
turning
lanes
on
Atkinson
Road
to
alleviate
not
only
existing
traffic
problems
but
to
facilitate
traffic
into
the
future
as
this
project
takes
place,
so
we
don't
and
we've
also.
E
We
also
are
quite
agreeable
with
with
closing
down
not
using
the
Bonneville
connection,
there's
a
sort,
little
road
that
ties
into
the
mid
mid
part
of
of
solar
state
subdivision.
We
can.
We
can
block
that
off
so
that
contractors
do
not
use
that
for
construction
purposes
and
and
it's
at
the
city's
pleasure
they
can
either
permanently
close
that
down
or
they
can
put
an
ox
box
on
it,
but
we're
willing
to
work
with
them
on
that.
Thank
you
all.
A
L
L
This
city
is
not
paying
attention
to
the
job,
it
needs
to
be
doing.
I've
lived
in
too
many
communities
and
yes,
I've
lived
in
about
25
different
places
that
have
ignored
the
infrastructure
in
the
roads
have
never
caught
up
the
cities.
I've
lived
in
to
put
the
roads
and
the
infrastructure
first
have
flourished.
L
Every
time
someone
comes
to
visit,
even
my
wife,
the
first
time
we
brought
her
here.
I
described
this
town
as
a
town
with
two
roads,
highway,
90
and
Pass
Road,
and
that's
about
it
on
the
way
here.
I
did
exactly
what
I'm
trying
to
avoid
in
our
neighborhood
I'm,
going
down
90
I
cut
across
over
to
father
Ryan
and
go
through
somebody's
nice
little
neighborhood,
like
a
other
line
of
cars.
That
was
doing
the
same
thing.
L
L
You're
consistents
have
come
to
you
to
ask
for
help
to
avoid
this
problem,
your
constituents
or
voters,
and
they
know
people
and
they
vote
too,
but
I
will
be
very
vocal
with
this
moving
forward.
If
this
plan
gets
passed,
as
is
the
Bonneville
gets
opened,
I
will
be
even
more
vocal
as
it's
not
right
again,
as
people
in
this
room
have
said.
L
No
one
disagrees
with
mr
petru
sees
right
to
develop
his
property,
but
to
go
for
the
profit
at
that
point,
to
inconvenience
his
neighbors
to
affect
their
property
values,
and
we
all
know
the
stats.
Most
people's
net
worth
is
tied
up
in
their
homes,
and
the
people
on
that
street
are
mostly
a
retirement
age
or
approaching
it
and
could
very
well
affect
their
futures.
L
F
My
name
is
Joe
Batok
4:29
sailor
I,
just
have
one
question:
I
mean
I've,
been
up
here,
harping
about
the
traffic
and
everything
everything
every
meeting
would
come
here,
but
one
person
has
come
up
here
stood
for
the
project.
Dr.
Bertuzzi
is
not
even
here
for
the
project.
Here
you
have
five
or
six
people
are
coming
to
talk
against
it.
I
gave
you
a
petition.
The
first
meeting
we
had
of
a
hundred
signatures
of
people
who
don't
want
the
project
of
people
that
live
all
around
the
proposed
subdivision.
F
One
question
is:
how
can
you
justify
a
yes
vote
on
this
when
you've
got
all
these
people
against
it?
All
the
traffic
problems
you're
going
to
have,
and
you
got
one
person
to
show
up
for
a
YES
on
the
project.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me.
If
any
of
you
can
explain
it
to
me,
I'd
be
happy
to
listen,
but
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense.
Thank
you.
H
Comments:
okay,
first
of
all,
he
said
that
he's
well
within
the
six
hundred
feet.
Now
this
is
according
to
his
own,
drawing
which
unfortunately
I
didn't
know.
I
was
gonna
need
copies
for
anybody.
I
hope
you
guys
have
got
him
if
you
haven't
I'll
heal
it
to
you,
but
anyway,
it
shows.
300
feet
goes
about
the
middle
of
the
property
from
dr.
mr.
sailor's
property.
He
it's
in
his
own
writings,
not
mine,
I
didn't
do
anything
about
it.
Okay
and
also.
H
He
said
that
there
was
never
any
mention
of
apartments
well
on
his
original
okay,
we
that's
what
I
mean
about
confusing.
Okay
he's
got
two
different
plants
here,
alright
one
he
shows
at
one
meeting
when
he
shows
in
another
meeting
and
I,
don't
know
what
he's
talking
about,
but
anyway,
on
this
on
the
original
plat
that
came
with
the
the
package
that
you
got
from
the
Planning
and
Zoning,
it
says
apartments
in
the
legend.
Okay,
so
I,
don't
know.
What
are
we
trying
to
do
here?
H
B
F
B
Jerry
Caldwell
I
live
at
4:29,
karma
Gyu,
I
didn't
come
with
a
prepared
speech,
but
just
from
the
observation
of
everything
that's
been
said
so
far,
it's
the
same
problem
that
permeates
our
whole
city.
We've
got
an
inadequate
facilities,
so
accommodate
what
we've
got
right
now.
This
city
has
grown
so
much
too,
even
since
Katrina
and
every
intersection
do
you
get
to
you
have
to
sit
there
and
sit
there
and
sit
there
and
to
come
in
with
a
project
like
this.
At
the
foot
of
that
bridge,
it's
already
completely
jammed
up
there.
B
You
can
try
to
get
out
of
the
car
a
voluntary
subdivision
to
go
north
on
that
bridge.
You
might
sit
there
until
45
or
50
cars
come
down
off
of
that
bridge
before
you
can
even
make
a
left
turn
to
get
out
of
there.
I
live
at
the
soon
as
you
get
into
the
bond
tear
subdivision.
There's
a
stop
sign
at
the
end
of
the
bond
tear
Boulevard
and
you
either
got
to
go
right.
You
got
to
go
left
and
I
watched.
Those
people
go
through
that
stop
sign
continuing
mr.
B
Miller
could
make
a
fortunately
descent
and
the
policeman
out
there
and
writing
tickets.
Just
under
people
don't
go
ahead
and
it's
people
that
are
avoiding
the
intersection
down
there.
It
Atkinson
Road
and
pops
ferry.
They
don't
want
to
set
their
way
for
that
line.
If
you
don't
get
a
left
turn
signal.
If
you
want
to
go
east
on
Atkinson,
you've
had
to
lick
because
the
cars
are
lined
up
city
stream,
all
the
way
up,
the
FOP
stray
Road
or
pass
Road.
It's
a
it's
absurd
that
we've
let
our
city
get
to
the
point.
B
We
don't
have
this
adequate
infrastructure
to
support
what
we've
got
right
now
and
I
think
it
was
envisioned
here
tonight.
All
these
gentlemen
were
having
to
hustle
to
get
here
and
I,
see
the
mayor
file
I
made
it,
but
he
had
to
fight
all
this
traffic
to
him.
I
think
that's!
The
general
consensus
of
the
of
the
whole
populace
of
this
area
and
West
Biloxi
is
just
as
bad
as
downtown
Biloxi
and
every
other
place
you
go.
You
go
up
on
Popp's,
Ferry
Road.
It's
the
same
thing.
B
Go
up
there
to
see
your
Lake
and
try
to
set
through
that
traffic
even
over
it
at
Pass
Road
and
the
bias
room,
same
situation
at
night,
they're
lined
up
for
blocks
and
blocks
and
I
think
it's
absurd
that
we
continue
to
want
to
develop
these
areas
with
such
adverse
jamming
up
of
things
and
compounding
our
problem
to
the
point.
It's
just
utterly
absurd
and
I
agree
with
the
gentleman
that
made
that
statement.
It's
absurd
that
we
do
continue
to
approve
stuff
that
just
compounds
the
problem
worse
and
we're
not
getting
it
fixed.
B
I
mean
this
whole
city's
in
a
mess
right
now
and
highway,
90
and
pastor
or
the
you
know
what
they
are
east
and
west,
and
that's
that's
all
how
you're
going
to
get
anyplace
and
they're
constantly
Jam
I
got
into
the
same
mess
out
there
on
father
Ryan
if
he
alluded
to
it
and
the
cars
coming
out
of
Keesler
and
they're
wanting
to
turn
left.
They
want
to
turn
right
down
at
highway.
90
and
you'll
sit
there
and
sit
there
and
sit
there,
and
you
do
stockily.
I
I
think
this
might
be
in
rebuttal
that,
in
in
doing
an
environmental
study
about
the
wetlands
that
are
on
the
property,
I
think
what
we
should
all
see
as
citizens
of
this
city
is
so
what's
going
to
be
done,
you
know
we,
we
know
they're
there.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do?
How
are
we
going
to
mitigate
them?
How
are
you
gonna?
Are
you
gonna,
bulldoze
those
plants
out
and
set
them
up
somewhere
else
and
I
do
have
to
mention
just
because
you
probably
know
this?
What
about
the
trees?
I
What
about
all
of
the
beautiful
oak
trees
that
are
out
there
and
how
is
that
going
to
set
whether
we
call
them
townhomes
or
condominiums,
or
you
know,
whatever
it's
still
over
developed?
If
you
can
take
a
beautiful
piece
of
property
like
that
and
spread
it
out
and
keep
green
space,
what
a
wonderful
gym
that
would
be
for
neighbors
up
and
down.
I
A
J
We
are
typically
on
development
projects
where
there's
been
a
wooded
lot
located
there
for
a
long
period
of
time,
and
it's
next
to
a
residential
subdivision.
We
run
into
a
lot
of
opposition
because
the
residents
that
have
lived
there
for
a
long
time,
if
kind
of
adopted
that
is
their
own
private
buffer
area
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
But
it's
just
that
when
you
live
next
to
a
piece
of
undeveloped
property,
there's
always
the
chance
that
that
developer
is
going
to
decide
one
day
to
to
develop
it
now.
J
J
That
was
a
question
that
came
up
at
the
ward
meeting.
The
15-foot
easement
belongs
to
the
residents
that
live
along
Saylor
Drive
and
they
are
fenced
in
on
that
area.
So
certainly
the
developer
could
not
cross
over
onto
that
easement.
But
in
addition
to
that,
there's
at
least
one
other
25-foot
easement
on
dr.
Burton,
who
sees
part
of
the
property
that
wouldn't
be
developed,
so
there's
40
feet
that
is
separated
and
mr.
steiffel
and
I
have
talked
about
possibly
there's
another
25
foot
easement,
but
that
was
a
construction
easement.
J
We
believe
that
has
expired,
so
there's
at
least
40
feet
of
easement
between
the
residents
neighborhood
and
the
development
site
that
couldn't
have
anything
built
on
it.
This
is
not
a
zoning
change.
This
is
a
PD.
A
PD
is
an
overlay
district,
so
you
don't
have
to
prove
changing
the
character,
the
neighborhood
or
mistake
in
the
original
zoning.
J
A
zoning
change
does
not
expire.
A
PD
does
expire.
If
nothing
is
done
on
this
property
in
the
next
two
in
the
two
years
from
the
date
of
approval,
then
I
would
have
to
take
steps
to
have
the
overlay
district
removed.
That's
the
big
difference
between
the
zoning
changing
and
a
PD
traffic.
The
reason
that
we're
talking
about
traffic
right
now
is
because
of
this
development
project.
J
J
So
what
we
do
is
we
actually
put
in
the
infrastructure
as
the
development
project
is
happening
here
we
have
a
developer,
that's
willing
to
give
us
the
right-of-way
that's
needed
to
put
in
a
turn
lane
that
would
make
that
would
at
least
reduce
the
traffic
backlog
by
half,
because
you
have
the
people
that
are
trying
right
now.
You
have
two
lanes
of
traffic
and
you
have
the
you
either
have
to
sit
at
the
red
light
if
you're
going
west
and
wait
to
turn
either
east,
either
south
or
north,
depending
on
his
in
front
of
you.
J
J
The
developer
has
agreed
not
to
connect
to
not
to
have
traffic
going
through
during
construction
or
after
construction
over
into
the
Saylor
neighborhood
they've
agreed
to
improve
the
road
up
to
that
point,
but
to
put
a
gate
with
an
ox
box
on
there,
so
that
only
emergency
equipment
would
be
able
to
come
in
the
concern
about
traffic
on
the
property
right
now.
The
property
for
the
most
part
is
owned
or
stn
single-family
residential.
J
So
you
could
put
a
number
of
houses
in
there
that
would
generate
just
as
much
traffic
as
as
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
development,
but
the
tone
of
the
comments
seem
to
indicate
that
you
know
we're
just
going
to
wake
up
one
morning
and
all
of
a
sudden
that
I
think
is
going
to
be
overwhelming
there.
But
this
is
a
phased
project.
One
of
the
traffic
improvements
can
be
put
in
in
conjunction
with
the
development.
J
As
far
as
the
concern
about
the
environmental
study,
I
think
mr.
stipple
has
already
answered
that
and
that's
that's
standard
on
any
big
development
project
on
undeveloped
property.
You
have
to
do
an
environmental
study
concerning
the
trees.
This
property
is
43
acres.
It
would
have
to
have
a
tree
hearing
a
public
tree
hearing,
so
the
public
would
have
input
into
that.
Not
only
that
the
the
trade
committee
would
be
involved
at
DRC
and
their
recommendations
would
be
made
before
the
Planning
Commission
as
a
part
of
the
the
tree
hearing.
J
We
we
would
be
in
communication.
The
mayor
has
expressed
an
interest
in
engaging
GRDC
to
help
us
with
the
traffic
study
to
be
developed
and
recommendations
for
this
intersection,
and
mr.
Gavin
is
in
the
audience
now
he's
the
new
executive
director
of
Jill
Gulf
Regional
Planning
Commission.
So
if
you
have
some
questions
for
him,
he
could
step
up
and
speak
to
those
I
sent
him
the
design
so
that
they
could
be
taking
a
look
at
it.
But
this
is
the.
J
This
is
the
way
that
development
projects
work
in
addition
to
the
easements
that
were
there,
the
ordinance,
the
land
development
ordinance
does
require
a
buffer
strip
between
any
zone
districts.
So
there
would
be
a
wooded
buffer
strip
involved
in
this
and
I
think
I've
covered
everything.
But
with
that
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
C
J
J
C
J
C
C
J
C
J
I
was
I
was
speaking
to
the
development
on
the
property.
The
infrastructure
improvements,
I,
don't
believe,
would
drag
on
for
six
to
eight
years.
I
mean
that's
something
that
would
have
to
be
addressed
when
they
do
their
initial
phase.
We
would
have
to
be
looking
at
that
and
getting
that
in,
but
the
construction
on
the
site,
because
it's
three
phases
and
and
I'm
speaking
out
of
school
here,
because
but
just
looking
at
the
scope
of
the
project
I,
would
think
that
it
would
take
at
least
six
years
for
this
to
be
completed.
C
C
J
C
C
L
C
J
J
Part
will
be,
it
can
be
anything
I
mean
it.
It's
not
you're
not
going
to
see
casinos
in
there
you're
not
going
to
see
certain
regulated
uses
in
there.
You
know
what
strip,
clubs
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
yes,
there
could
be
a
nightclub
over
on
that
side,
but
it's
a
way
from
the
houses,
all
that's
going
to
be
buffered
by
the
single-family
phase,
the
multifamily
phase,
and
then
this
which
will
be
on
Popp's
Ferry
Road.
So.
J
F
C
J
J
Question
did
not
come
up
at
the
book
did
not
come
up
with
the
ward
meeting.
That
particular
question
didn't
come
up
at
the
ward
meeting,
but
I
can
assure
you
that
this
project
will
be
tastefully
done.
I've
had
enough
conversations
with
dr.
berty
to
know
that
he
won't
says
to
be
a
high
end
development
project,
especially
since
he's
going
to
be
living
there
right
next
to
it
as
well.
C
J
M
J
Wanted
all
right
not
exactly.
Let
me
explain
this.
He
is
designing
this
to
meet
rs.10
standards,
which
is
which
is
low
density.
When
mr.
Seiler
developed
his
subdivision,
he
actually
made
his
Lots
bigger
than
what
was
required.
So
the
people
who
are
living
on
Sailor
drive
have
some
concerns
about
well
now,
instead
of
just
having
one
lot
it
matches
up
with
one
lot
on
the
backside.
There
may
be
one
lot
and
a
piece
of
another
light
back
there,
but
they
are
being
designed
to
meet
the
low
density
standards
of
our
LDO
and.
M
J
That's
another
development.
What
Dennis
was
talking
about
there
is
that
there's
concerns
about
what
level
of
houses
are
you
going
to
be
building
in
there
you're
going
to
be
building
small
houses
in
there
or
what
tonight
and
what
Dennis
was
stating
and
I'll?
Let
him
speak
that,
if
you
want
to
is
that
these
are
going
to
be
high
quality
homes,
these
are
not
going
to
be
low
quality,
yeah.
J
M
E
Lots
that
back
up
to
say
a
place,
our
traditional
now
they're
their
conventional.
That's,
basically,
what
what
you
would
expect
to
see
in
a
subdivision
when
you
get
away
from
Sailor
place
closer
to
the
300
and
600
foot
buffer
towards
the
west,
you,
you
have
a
different
methodology,
a
different
type
of
design,
and
that
is,
you
have
rear
entry
garages
where
you
don't.
When
you
drive
down
the
street,
the
houses
are
a
little
bit
closer
to
the
street
and
and
the
yards
a
little
smaller,
but
the
houses
can
be
bigger
yeah.
E
So
you
have
a
bigger
structure
on
the
house:
more
expensive
houses
with
smaller
yards
the
and
you
don't
you
don't
drive
down
the
street
and
basically
just
see
nothing
but
garages,
double
double
or
triple
car
garage
doors,
which
is
not
very
attractive.
So
one
of
the
main
philosophies
of
approaches
of
dr.
burr
to
see
is
when
people
are
walking
is
to
be
a
very
walkable,
very
green
development.
That's
what
his
main
mission
is
here.
E
He
wants
people
be
able
to
walk
down
the
streets
and
look
at
beautiful
architecture
and
beautiful
landscaping,
not
just
garage
doors
and
and
and
grasp
per
se.
So
when
I
brought
up
the
tradition
and
Florence
Gardens,
this
subdivision
has
actually
been
laid
out
similarly
to
a
development
called
River
Ranch
in
Lafayette
Louisiana,
we've
kind
of
modeled
it
after
that.
Dr.
position
really
liked
that
very
nicely
done.
Very
high-end
tradition
up
in
in
the
county
and
Florence
Gardens
over
and
don't
report
are
also
modelled.
Similarly,
and
that's
why
I
brought
those
up.
Thank.
M
You
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
known
because
it
seemed
to
alleviate
some
concerns
at
the
ward
meeting
and
I
wanted
to
the
other
councilmen
to
know
what
kind
of
homes
were
going
to
be
approving
there.
Another
concern
was
the
cut
through
road.
They
asked
for
a
lockable
gate,
so
no
access
constantly
in
and
out
being
as
a
cut
road.
They
the
per
to
see
developer,
agreed
and
said
he
would
put
a
lockbox
on
there.
B
M
M
Then
the
easement,
of
course,
was
brought
up
and
we
showed
a
map
stating
that
the
residents
on
the
resident
side
so
that
concern
was
alleviated.
So
the
biggest
concern,
of
course,
is
traffic.
So
I
asked
at
the
ward
meeting
if
the
developer
would
be
willing
to
go
in
a
partner
partnership
agreement
to
show
the
city
and
the
residents
that
their
he's
willing
to
be
working
with
us
and
go
ahead
and
donate
that
that
property
off
of
a
consume.
M
E
We're
willing
to
donate
the
property
we
put
that
writing
to
the
city,
the
the
as
far
as
donating
it
today,
so
to
speak.
What
we
really
need
to
do
is
get
it
get
the
engineer
get
together
with
the
engineering
department
figure
out
how
much
they
need
we're
willing
to
donate
whatever
the
city
needs,
but
but
to
donate
it
today
we
really
don't
know
how
much
they
need.
You
know,
and
it
makes
a
difference
to
us.
We
don't
want
to
give
away
50
feet
more
than
we
need
to
give
away
because
that
could
kill.
E
J
M
J
D
C
A
Ahead
and
close
out
take
a
five-minute
break
and
then
go
ahead
and
come
on
back.
If
that's
okay
with
everybody,
okay
I
need
a
motion
to
close
off,
especially
hearing
move
by
mr.
Lawrence
second
by
mr.
Newman.
Any
questions
all
in
favor,
5-0
motion,
Carrie,
okay,
we'll
take
a
five-minute
break
and
then
we'll
start
back
up.