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A
B
Welcome
to
the
ward,
4
town
hall
style,
meeting,
I'm,
councilman,
Robert,
Deming
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
I
have
members
of
of
the
administration
here
ready
to
give
you
updates
and
answer
questions
you
may
have.
We
have
members
from
the
department
of
engineering
department
of
publics
in
Iraq
Recreations
excuse
me:
Community
Development,
the
police
department
and
the
fire
department
I'll
give
a
brief
update
about
what
we've
got
going
on
in
the
board.
Some
things
in
the
ward
they'll
expand
on
some
of
those
those
ideas
and
we'll
all
take
questions
at
the
end.
B
B
I'll
start
with,
with
myself
reward
Force
expanded
a
little
bit
after
after
the
2020
census.
We
had
to
rezone
the
redistrict
the
lines,
so
we've
added
new
areas
in
a
little
bit
on
the
the
northern
portion
of
Pop's
ferry
over
to
the
East
and
well
pop
straight,
doesn't
go
north.
It
kind
of
veers
off
when
we
added
some
West.
How
does
Pop's
Ferry
starts
north
and
south
and
goes
to
east
of
West,
so
the
areas
near
Taylor,
Oaks,
Lauren
Falls
in
that
area,
Campbell
Lane,
that's
all
added
into
Ward
four
now
so
welcome.
B
There
have
been
a
lot
of
events
here
recently
in
the
city
of
Biloxi
development,
a
lot
of
development.
That's
going
on
that
that
Jerry
can
touch
on
and
then
some
some
hot
button
subjects
like
spring
break
events
now
I
know
we're
working
with
the
city
and
specifically
the
police
department,
to
try
to
formulate
a
resolution
for
the
crime
and
the
events
that
occurred
now.
I
know
it's
a
very
tough
subject
to
deal
with
them.
We
don't
know
how
to
resolve
the
issue.
B
B
I,
don't
know
how
to
address
this,
but
we're
working
in
concert
with
cities
like
Atlanta
that
have
dealt
with
these
types
of
events,
spring
break
cities
in
Florida,
Alabama
and
other
areas
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
the
safest
environment
for
the
residents,
most
importantly
and
visitors
to
our
city,
as
well
as
the
the
economic
impact
to
businesses.
Both
positive
and
negative.
B
Discussing
that
topic.
I
think
a
good
time
would
be
to
start
with,
with
assistant
chief
debock,
not
really
to
discuss
that
topic
alone,
but
allow
him
to
tell
you
what's
going
on
in
the
city
as
far
as
a
crime
update
where
we're
at
with
the
Department
hurricane
preparedness
and
different
things
like
that
assistant
chief
dback,.
C
Good
evening,
how's
everybody
doing
good
everybody
get
one
of
these
handouts.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
start
with
that.
First,
if
you
didn't
get
one
okay,
they're
they're
coming
they're
making
a
way
around,
but
if
you
look
at
it
on
the
front
of
it,
there's
a
heat
map
on
the
front
and
it's
got
some
incidents
by
crime
category
so
specifically
about
Ward
four
over
the
the
past
90
days.
C
There's
about
a
thousand
fifty
eight
calls
for
service
and
of
those
about
108
incident
reports,
145
total
offenses.
So
when
you
look
at
we'll
say
major
stuff,
like
burglaries
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
it's
not
too
bad.
You
know
you're
you're
sitting
around
one
one
or
two
reports
for
those
90
days.
Yes,
sir.
C
So
it's
not
too
bad
you,
you
know
crime-wise
in
your
ward,
it's
it's
looking
pretty
good
the
most
with
some
drug
violations
and
then
some
trespassing.
When
we
talk
about
trespassing,
you
know
some
of
that's
going
to
kind
of
segue
into
the
next
thing
I'm
going
to
talk
about,
which
is
like
homeless
and
pain
and
handling.
C
There
has
been
an
increase
over
the
years
with
homeless
and
pain
handling,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
working
with
the
City
of
Gulfport
is
a
better
way
to
give
campaign
and
what
to
kind
of
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
what
that's
going
to
be,
which
it
starts.
June
1st
we're
hanging
up
signs.
What
we
did
was
we
identified
main
areas
where
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
in
within
the
city.
C
C
Initially,
there
is
a
board,
that's
set
up
to
collect
the
funds
and-
and
you
know,
give
them
out
basically
but
they're,
going
to
be
used
for
First,
Responders
initially,
and
it's
for
emergency
situations.
Only
so
a
good
example
would
be.
You
know
a
mother
and
or
two
kids
sleeping
in
a
car
or
something
like
that
and
officers
out
there
it's
after
business
hours,
so
places
like
open
doors
or
Back,
Bay,
Mission
or
whatever
is
closed.
C
C
So
it's
not
for
for
everybody
that
you
know,
needs
a
hammer
burger
or
whatever
it
is.
There's
meals
provided
along
the
Gulf
Coast
every
day
of
the
week,
so
the
main
goal
during
business
hours
to
get
them
hooked
up
with
those
agencies
and
then
after
business
hours,
is
to
take
care
of
those
emergency
situations,
but
you'll
see
those
signs
going
up
and
as
we
we
see
how
the
program's
working
and
expand
out
you'll
see
more
and
more
signs
in
the
way
it's
worked
in
other
cities.
C
What's
going
on
with
these
events,
if
you've
been
here
anytime,
you've
known
since
you
know
the
late
90s
till
now,
we've
grown
to
the
event
Capital
World,
it
seems
certainly
in
Mississippi.
So
hopefully
these
new
ordinances
will
help
us
better
control.
It
safer
safer
for
the
officers
safer,
the
people
coming
and
then,
if
depending
on
where
you
live,
you're
not
having
to
deal
with
increased
traffic
and
everything
else,
but
but
that's
something.
That's
in
the
works,
hurricane
preparedness
or
in
that
season
want
to
mention
it
make
sure
you're
checking
around
your
houses.
C
C
As
far
as
the
department
goes,
we
we're
still
hiring
for
sworn
officers.
So
if
you
know
any
family
members
yourself,
friends,
they're
looking
for
a
job,
we
have
sworn
officers,
dispatchers
mechanics
a
few
admin
positions
that
are
still
open.
You
can
go
to
the
city
website
under
human
resources
and
find
each
of
those
positions
we
have.
We
currently
have
about
eight
officers
in
the
academy
right
now.
D
D
D
They
said
now
we
have
to
run
your
and
I'm
like
well,
let
me
lock
my
door
so
I'm
going
so
they're
taking
me
tonight.
You
know
I,
know
and
then
I
see
this
cop
about
to
go
in
my
home.
I
said
I
didn't
know
when
you
could
go
on
here,
so
he
goes
in
the
bag.
So
they
pull
my
my
identification,
I
guess
my
tag.
I
ran
my
tag
and
they
let
me
go,
have
a
good
day.
Of
course.
I
didn't
turn
around
and
I
did
not
give
them
the
bird
either.
C
It
depends
yeah,
each
call
is
different
and
we
get
all
kind
of
welfare
concern
calls
a
lot
of
them
come
in
from
Anonymous
people,
so
it
may
have
been
a
case
where
they
didn't
know
who
called
your
particular
incident
not
familiar
with
I'd
have
to
look
it
up
which,
after
this,
if
you
want
to
give
me
the
date
and
time
I'll
be
happy
to
do
that.
As
far
as
the
details
of
it.
Once
again,
your
particular
incident
I'd
have
to
look
it
up
and
read.
D
C
D
C
C
C
E
E
E
E
C
E
C
C
One
one
thing
will
help
us,
because
we
put
it
out
to
our
all
our
Patrol
officers
to
watch
that
and
enforce
it.
So
you
know
you
have
to
have
it
registered
license
if
you're
not
a
licensed
driver
you're
not
supposed
to
be
driving
anyways
but
anytime.
You
see
something
like
that.
Please
give
us
a
call,
because
we
can't
be
everywhere,
but
if,
if
you
call
us,
then
we
know
where
to
go
and
hopefully
catch
them.
E
E
C
E
C
E
E
C
C
E
C
E
C
C
Well,
I
can
tell
you
that
we've
issued
several
tickets
to
kids,
there's
even
been
well
I.
We
can't
be
everywhere.
I
can
tell
you
that
we've
issued
several
tickets
to
kids
and
their
parents
and
even
towed
some
golf
carts
that
what
will
help
is
each
time
you
see
it
call
us
we
can
go
directly
to
that
incident
and
then
take
care
of
it
at
that
time.
Yes,
ma'am.
C
F
F
F
F
C
B
Me
add
something
to
that.
You
know
that
that's
been
a
problem
for
a
long
time
and
before
it
was
right
there,
it
was
up
closer.
That's
why
we
put
those
cones
there.
We
actually
had
Vehicles
ending
up
in
the
yard
of
that
house
where
that
road
ends,
and
so
we
put
that
medical
barrier
up.
Then
we
put
cones
up
and
no
matter
what
we
do,
that
behavior
just
ends
up
before,
whatever
we
do
right
and
so
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
do
that
unless
we
break
it
up
a
different
way.
There's
it's.
C
C
So
so
about
a
week
or
two
ago
we
did
get
a
complaint
and
we
issued
more
Patrol
during
the
weekend
times
when
those
games
are
going
on.
One
is
they're,
leaving
the
garbage
they're
doing
a
lot
of
stuff,
so
we
have
stepped
up
increased
Patrol
on
weekends
there
during
those
game
times
so
hopefully
you'll
see
a
decrease
in
that.
C
G
G
C
Well,
I
can
tell
you
the
youngest
that
we've
taken
home
taking
the
golf
cart
was
nine
years
old,
so
I,
you
know,
I,
understand
that
it's
it's
a!
It
is
a
problem
and
with
increased
traffic
control
and
increased
Patrol
up
there
that
whole
area,
whether
it's
the
Soccer
Fields
golf
carts.
Whatever
attitude
list.
C
C
I
F
C
C
They
they
get
cited
and
I
can't
tell
you
the
exact
fines
right
now,
but
and
don't
quote
me
I
think
it's
like
a
thousand
dollars
for
allowing
an
unlicensed
driver
and
then
no
insurance
which,
if
you
don't
have
insurance,
if
you're,
not
if
you're,
not
registered
I,
think
is
another
thousand
dollars,
so
the
fees
are
quite
Hefty.
I,
don't
have
those
numbers
on
me
and
again,
don't
quote
me,
but
I
believe
it
is
around
a
thousand
dollars
for
that
for
that
fee.
Yes,
sir.
E
C
C
C
No,
no!
No,
if
it's
a
non-emergency,
please
use
a
non-emergency
number,
which
is
right,
which
is
3920641
but
certainly
called
a
non-emergency
number.
Please
that
way
we
can
get
like
I
said
we
get
an
officer
out
there.
You
see,
you
see
something,
even
if
it's
a
speeder,
you
know
you
see
something,
you
know,
let
us
know,
and
then
hopefully
we
can.
E
A
C
So
I
can
tell
you
every
duck
hunting
season.
We
go
to
the
boat
launches
we
get
with
the
county,
so
ask
them
to
go
to
theirs
as
well,
and
then
talk
to
Hunters,
early
or
I
say
Hunters
to
try
to
curtail
that.
But
it
is.
It
is
a
huge
promise,
something
we
have
to
deal
with
every
year
during
duck
season.
Yeah.
C
That
was
that
was
the
boats.
Yeah
I
think
we
had
I
think
we
had
the
county
out
with
us,
but
that's
something
that
we
deal
with
every
year
and
it
is
a
nuisance
not
only
for
you,
but
for
us
as
well,
and
we're
just
going
to
keep
saturating
the
area,
keep
going
out
there
and
then
and
then
putting
out
public
information
on
it.
That
is
against
the
law
on
the
city
limits.
B
Just
a
couple
takeaways
from
that,
the
sign
idea
I
think
it's
phenomenal.
There
was
actually
a
study
done
in
St
Louis
a
few
years
ago.
I
say
a
few
time
flies
we're
having
fun
right.
It
was
probably
like
10
or
12
years
ago,
and
it
was
about
littering
and
they
did
a
study.
They
counted
how
many
pieces
of
trash
were
on
these
trips
with
the
highway
and
they
put
signs
up.
B
They
said,
if
you
see
someone
littering
call
this
number,
and
so
the
ticketing
incidences
went
down
to
about
20
percent
of
the
previous
three
years
on
average,
because
people
were
afraid
to
litter
if
they
thought
someone
was
actually
watching
so
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
I
think
if
we
added
call
and
then
non-emergency
number
on
it,
it
really
makes
you
think
these
people
will
call
it.
They
see
me
doing
this
great
idea.
Thank
you
for
suggesting
it
some
of
these.
B
Some
of
these
concerns
and
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
stem
from
from
a
lack
of
numbers
right.
We've
we've
seen
a
small
Exodus
in
the
officers
from
the
police
department.
It's
because
we
fell
behind
as
far
as
being
competitive
as
a
city.
We
have
stepped
up
what
we
do
for
our
officers,
increased
pay
for
city
employees
and
we're
seeing
numbers
come
back
in.
B
We
just
saw
it
eight
more
on
the
last
few
news
announced
that
they
were,
they
were
being
sworn
in,
so
that
that
will
help
us
a
lot
getting
more
people
out
there
and
that
little
strip
from
Old
Bay
to
Big
Lake
I
was
a
kid
and
I
was
irresponsible
and
I
used
that
pass
through
area
to
to
beat
those
lights.
I
know
exactly
what
you're
talking
about,
because
well
I
lived
back
there,
so
I
experienced,
but
I
was
also
part
of
the
problem.
But
this
was
a
long
time
ago.
I'm.
A
B
Why
I
fit
in
there
somewhere
right
and
so
that
I
agree?
We
need
to
get
more.
We
need
to
get
some
detail
out
there
and
slow
some
stuff
down.
I
know
when
I
was
out.
There's
something
that
really
affected
me
and
my
driving
habits
were
those
were
those
lights,
those
those
boards
that
clock
you
and
you're
worried,
because
you
think
there's
a
motorcycle
cop
down
there
getting
ready
to
pull
you
over
those
things
worked
amazingly
for
me
and
I'll
make
sure
that
we
we
work
on
stepping
up
our
enforcement
in
that
area.
B
B
Well,
the
other
concern
is
that
the
continuation
all
the
way
down
to
Highway
90
when
pops
Ferry
is
expanded
all
the
way
to
Highway
90.
the
number
of
traffic
there
is
going
to
increase,
which
will
slow
down
or
increase
traffic
time
at
those
lights,
which
will
give
people
more
incentive
to
cut
through.
B
B
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
having
us
tonight
to
speak
about
things
that
are
going
on
in
Biloxi.
I
represent
the
Community
Development
Department.
We
do
a
number
of
things
there
I'll
run
through
it
just
real
quick
in
case.
You
have
questions
about
any
one
of
these.
We
handle
Economic,
Development,
Planning
and
Zoning,
building
permits
and
inspections
code
enforcement.
M
Flood
plain
management
business
license
is
historic,
preservation,
museums
and
cultural
Affairs
and
storm
water
management
most
of
the
times
when
we
get
into
these
meetings
the
things
that
people
want
to
know
about
the
most
is
economic
development.
What's
coming
and
then
there'll
usually
be
questions
about
code
enforcement,
maybe
some
questions
about
flood,
plain
management,
but
I'm,
happy
to
report
that
we've
got
a
number
of
things
going
on
in
the
way
of
Economic
Development.
M
We've
got
80
million
right
at
80
million
dollars
right
now
worth
of
development
going
on
throughout
the
city,
and
you
can,
if
you
point
in
any
direction,
I
can
name
at
least
a
half
a
dozen
major
projects
that
are
going
on
in
those
directions.
The
I
can
tell
you
an
overview
right
now.
We've
got
under
either
under
construction
or
in
review.
We've
got
eight
hotels,
Ten,
Restaurants,
three
convenience
stores;
three
car
washes:
six
boat,
Norby
storage,
five
retail
centers,
three
climate
control,
mixed
storage
and
several
amusement
facilities
and
residential
every
direction.
M
We've
got
not
just
single
family
houses
and
subdivisions
being
built,
but
we've
got
Apartments
and
Townhomes
that
are
either
on
the
table
or
under
construction.
We
mentioned
some
of
the
other
projects
that
have
been
mentioned
here.
You
know
the
the
Keesler
Federal
Credit
Union
moving
their
main
headquarters
here
to
pass
road.
That's
a
big
deal.
The
bark
building
downtown
and
a
number
of
other
projects
now
specifically
about
Ward
four
I
can
give
you
a
few
projects
that
are
either
just
completed
or
under
construction.
M
We've
just
completed
the
last
phase
of
the
Arbor
Landing
Apartments
up
off
of
Elsie
drive
that
added
another
284
apartment
units
to
the
city.
Under
construction.
We've
got
a
subdivision
on
Brazier
called
anchor
Landing.
That's
got
66
Lots
there
under
review.
We've
got
a
subdivision
called
The
Reserve
at
Marsh
Island,
which
is
off
of
Causeway
Boulevard.
The
Bertucci
Park
project
at
pops
and
Atkinson
is
still
on
the
table
and
then
the
one
that
everybody
seems
to
be
really
excited
about.
The
new
Rouses,
that's
going
into
the
old
Winn-Dixie
location
and
just
an
update
on
that.
M
So
we
expect
to
get
those
plans
in
the
next
month,
maybe
month
and
a
half,
and
what
they'll
do
is
go
inside
they'll
cut
out
the
existing
floor
because
they
like
to
replace
all
of
those
free,
onlines
and
all
of
those
kind
of
lines
underneath
if
you've
ever
been
in
one
of
these
stores,
where
they
cut
a
trench
and
they
never
could
get
the
floor
back
level
again.
Rouses
doesn't
like
to
do
that.
M
They
like
to
have
a
nice
shopping
experience
when
you,
when
you
come
in
a
couple
of
other
things
that
are
going
on
gaming
revenues
are
really
going
very
well.
In
addition
to
that
sales
tax
revenues
after
Hurricane
Katrina,
we
had
a
hard
time
getting
sales
tax
revenues
back
up
to
Mere
a
million
dollars
because
we
lost
a
lot
of
our
Revenue
producers
in
town.
M
But
what
we
tried
to
do
was
to
shoot
for
first
of
all,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
a
million
dollars
a
month
in
sales
tax
revenues
consistently
and
then
once
we
get
to
that
that
consistent
million
dollars,
then
we'll
shoot
for
some.
Some
higher
totals
and
I'm
proud
to
announce
that
over
the
past
25
months,
we've
had
over
a
million
dollars
25
months
in
a
row.
That's
never
happened
in
the
history
of
Biloxi
and
we're
averaging
one
and
a
quarter
million
each
month.
Right
now.
M
So
great
economic
news,
those
are
the
kind
of
economic
indicators
that
we
look
at
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
in
the
right
direction.
The
mayor
told
somebody
the
other
day
they
were
talking
about.
You
know
the
mention
of
recession
everywhere,
he
said
tell
them
if
they're
dealing
with
recession
just
come
to
Biloxi,
because
we
don't
have
a
recession
going
on
here.
M
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
piggyback
off
of
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about
with
the
addition
of
Science
and
those
kind
of
things,
is
that
we've
reestablished
the
traffic
committee
for
the
city
and
we
have
Representatives
on
there
from
the
police
department
from
the
engineering
department
I'm
on
there.
And
what
we
do
is
we
field
requests
that
come
in
every
month
and
we
review
those
requests
where
someone's
requesting
a
speed
limit,
sign
or
signs
that
prohibit
golf
carts
and
those
kind
of
things.
M
So,
if
you
get
those
requests
to
Craig
Ross
at
the
public
works
department,
he
will
log
all
of
those
requests
in
and
then
he
brings
those
forward
to
the
traffic
committee.
When
we
meet
it's
the
third,
usually
the
third
Thursday
of
each
month-
and
we
go
over
those
one
of
the
things
that
councilman
demig
wanted
me
to
address.
That
he's.
Getting
a
lot
of
questions
about
is
the
difference
between
right-of-ways
and
easements,
and
what
is
the
city's
responsibility
on
these
these
easements?
M
M
That's
in
that
easement,
then
the
city
has
a
responsibility
to
go
out
there
and
remove
whatever
it
is
it's
causing
that
bottleneck,
and
there
are
other
types
of
easements
like
utility,
easements
and
access
easements,
a
lot
of
the
subdivisions
that
we
have
throughout
the
city
over
the
past
few
years,
where
the
plants
have
been
recorded.
If
you
go,
look
at
the
plant,
you'll
see
that
there
was
a
there's,
an
easement
that
runs
down
the
property
line
between
your
house
and
your
neighbor's
house.
M
What
that
is
actually
is
an
access
easement
and
it's
usually
seven
and
a
half
feet
on
either
side
of
the
property
line,
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
there's
there's,
probably
something
behind
your
house
like
a
drainage,
easement
or
something
like
that
that
we
have
to
get
to
that.
15
foot
gives
us
the
ability
to
get
a
backhoe
or
trackhoe
or
whatever.
It
is
through
that
property
to
get
back
to
the
back
and
correct
that
problem.
Whatever
it
happens
to
be
so
easements,
you
know,
I
can
just
tell
you.
M
We
don't
have
the
manpower
to
go
out
there
and
mow
all
these
easements
and
everything
else.
But
if
you
see
that
there's
a
problem
in
an
easement,
if
you'll
call,
we
can
let
you
know
What
what
can
be
done
and
you'd
call
the
same
person.
You'd
call
Craig
Ross
at
the
public
works
department
and
there's
a
number
there.
It's
228.
M
E
M
Yes,
no,
sir
I.
Don't
think
that
no
sir
I
don't
think
that's
a
responsible
way
to
talk
to
people.
Sometimes
the
answer
that
we
have
to
give
is
is
not
a
pleasant
answer
and
a
lot
of
times
it
gets
interpreted
the
wrong
way
and
some
people
don't
have
the
the
social
skills
that
other
people
have
the
the
the
problem.
E
M
E
M
M
One
of
the
one
of
the
things-
and
let
me
just
tell
you
and
and
don't
get
me,
don't
get
me
wrong,
I'm
not
trying
to
backtrack
here,
but
we
depend
on
the
public
a
lot
to
call
us
when
something
like
that
happens.
You
know
we
can't
see.
What's
going
on
everywhere
and
residents
are
the
best
Code
Enforcement
Officers
we
can
have.
If
you
report
these
things,
we
will
go
out
and
investigate
them.
Sometimes
we
can
do
something
about
it.
G
A
M
Good
on
the
street,
one
of
the
one
of
the
best
things
that
can
happen
to
an
undeveloped
piece
of
property
is
for
that
piece
of
property
to
be
developed,
because
what
happens
before
it's
developed
is
that
there's
no
discipline
to
that
water
that
runs
off
that
property
it
can
run
in
whatever
direction
is
natural
for
it
to
ruin.
But
when
that
property
gets
developed,
that
means
an
engineer
is
brought
in
to
study
the
drainage
to
see
how
to
control
it
and
what
the
law
says.
Is
it
a
development?
M
You
can't
release
any
more
water
after
the
development
than
you
did
before
the
development
was
there,
so
it's
their
responsibility,
the
property
owner's
responsibility
to
harness
that
water
and
for
it
to
be
released
at
the
same
rate
that
it
was
before
it
occurred
and
as
far
as
the
the,
in
other
words,
your
your
post
development
runoff,
cannot
exceed
your
pre-development
runoff.
That's
what
the
law
says
as
far
as
the
trees
that
are
there.
M
Yes
ma'am.
It's
still,
it's
still
their
responsibility
and
we
write
up
people
on
Wetlands
all
the
time
because,
again,
like
we
were
talking
about
the
drainage
easements.
If
you've
got
a
detention
Pond
that
detention
Pond
was
designed
to
hold
a
certain
volume
of
water
based
on
the
runoff
coming
off
of
that
property.
And
if
you
allow
trees
to
grow
in
there,
then
the
the
size
of
that
tree
is
replacing
the
volume
of
water
that
should
have
been
held
in
there.
M
So
it's
the
it's
affecting
the
ability
to
hold
that
amount
of
water
that
it
was
calculated
to
cover.
So
what
we
have
to
do
is
go
out
there.
I
have
one
person,
that's
my
stormwater
management
inspector
and
he
goes
from
detention,
Pond
to
detention,
Pond
after
they're
established
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
allowing
growth
to
come
in
there,
that's
going
to
adversely
affect
the
neighbors
and
to
make
sure
that
they
maintain
it
the
right
way.
M
I'm
not
going
to
say
that
all
of
it
is
I'm
saying
that
what
happens
is
that
they
have
to
discipline
that
water
to
go
to
the
detention
fund
that
they
will
have
to
establish
on
their
piece
of
property.
They
have
to
put
one
in
every
development
that
comes
to
tell
now
has
a
requirement
to
hold
that
water.
Now,
if
it
can
be
designed
so
that
the
after
development
runoff
doesn't
exceed
the
pre-development
runoff
in
some
cases
they
may
not
have
to
have
a
detention
fund,
but
I
know
in
that
particular
case.
M
Well,
it's
not
finished
yet
the
development's
not
finished
yet,
but
it
will.
We
have
to
go
back
out
there
after
a
development
is
done,
I
have
to
go
out
there.
The
engineering
department
has
to
go
out
there
to
make
sure
that
everything
that
was
proposed
to
be
done
and
approved
before
that
subdivision
plant
was
approved
is
done
before
we
sign
off
on
it.
If
we
don't
sign
off
on
it,
then
they
can't
sell
lots
to
build
houses
out
there.
So
there
are
some
checks
and
balances
inside
this
system.
D
M
Well,
one
of
the
one
of
the
suggestions
that
was
made
councilman
Tisdale
had
had
called
me
or
texted
me
before
the
council
meeting
Tuesday
and
he
said
I
understand
that
all
soup
kitchens
have
to
go
through
conditional
use
and
I
said.
No,
that's
not
true
the
reason.
The
reason
that
that
location
had
to
go
through
the
Planning
Commission
in
the
city
council
is
because
it's
in
a
Zone
called
neighborhood
business.
M
But
we
do
have
some
areas
where
soup,
kitchens
or
or
social
service
agencies
are
allowed
as
a
use
by
right
and
I,
told
councilman
Tisdale
that
he
brought
it
up
at
the
meeting.
He
said
what
I
would
suggest
two
Loaves
and
Fishes
is
that
they
look
for
a
place,
that's
zoned,
RB,
and
if
they
can
find
a
place
on
RB,
they
wouldn't
even
have
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
city
council.
Unless
there
were
some
variances
involved.
So,
okay,
yes,.
L
M
Okay,
we
have.
We
have
two
tenants
that
they're
not
ready
to
announce
yet
two
tenants
that
will
be
moving
into
the
Hobby
Lobby
building
and
also
a
tenant
that
will
be
moving
into
the
vacant
tenant
space.
That's
right
up
on
Pass
Road,
the
developers
as
a
part
of
recruiting
those
people
had
to
agree
to
make
several
improvements
to
that
shopping,
center
and
I.
Think
you're
going
to
be
surprised,
they're,
going
to
give
it
a
facelift
and
redo
the
parking
lot
and
put
up
a
new
billboard
sign
or
multi-tenant
advertising
site
on
the
front.
M
Yes,
they
are,
and
we
have
to
deal
with
these
developers
and
let
me
tell
you
they're
overly
cautious.
Sometimes
we
told
the
LA
at
the
last
ward
meeting
that
on
Rouses
the
Rouses
people
told
us
that
if
word
gets
out
about
this,
we'll
pull
the
deal,
and
so
we
had
to
keep
all
of
that
under
wraps
and
in
a
city
like
Biloxi.
That's
a
hard
thing
to
do.
M
M
Yes,
sir,
there
has
matter
of
fact
there's
some
undeveloped
properties
there
if
you're
coming
off
of
Pass
Road
onto
Pop's,
Ferry,
there's
a
wooded
area
over
there
and
it's
an
old
multi-family
and
some
of
those
developers
have
are
very
interested
in
seeing
this
project
start
so
that
they
can
get
started
and
there'll
be
some
other
interest
in
it
once
they
see
it.
Going
in,
we've
been
hearing
about
the
pops
Fair
extension
for
years,
and
so
these
people
are
are
waiting
to
get
excited
until
they
actually
see
some
construction
start
out.
M
M
M
A
M
E
M
Been
talking
to
Dr
I've,
been
here
20
years
now,
I've
been
talking
to
Dr
Bertucci
for
at
least
15
years
on
that
property
and
he'll
call
me
to
meet
with
him.
I'll
go
out
there
and
meet
with
him.
He'll
show
me
his
idea
and
it'll
sound
like
it's
about
ready
to
happen,
and
then
a
year
or
two
will
go
by
and
he'll
say
you
know,
I've
rethought
that
I
think
I'd
rather
do
this.
M
He
phase
one
which
was
going
to
be
the
several
houses
over
there
next
to
Taylor
Oaks
on
Atkinson.
You
know.
Originally
he
had
a
number
of
houses
over
there,
but
he
decided
after
the
neighbors
came
out
and
said
that
they
really
didn't
want
to
see
that
many
houses
he
backed
off
and
actually
turned
that
into
nine
single-family
Lots
there.
M
M
That's
right:
the
the
sale
of
the
property
was
contingent
on
the
zoning
being
changed.
The
zoning
was
changed
to
the
zone
that
was
needed
for
that.
Building
to
go
in
my
guess
is
is
that
they
once
the
sale
was
completed,
they
released
their
Architects
to
start
putting
it
together.
The
architect
that
was
initially
involved
in
that
was
David
Hardy,
who
is
very
environmentally
friendly
and
every
project
David's
ever
worked
on.
M
You're
aware
of
well
see
they
haven't
brought
anything
to
DRC,
yet
the
development
Review
Committee
once
they
bring
it
to
us.
That's
when
we
would
trigger
traffic
studies
and
those
kind
of
things,
but
my
guess
is
they'll
probably
go
ahead
and
get
that
done
before
they
come
to
the
DRC
community.
Yes,
ma'am.
M
B
B
B
It
reminded
me
of
a
of
what's
called
a
Asian
Master
relationship
right.
So
if
you
hire
someone
to
do
something
for
you
and
they
mess
it
up,
you're,
ultimately
responsible
for
what
they
do
and
so
Mr
creel.
Is
there
any
provision
that
residents
could
report
that
to
you
and
instead
of
catching
and
signing
the
Lawn
Company,
you
sign
the
owner
of
the
property
site,
the
owner
of
the
property.
M
B
Well,
I
think
at
least
it
would
start
the
conversation
with
the
lawn
care
companies
and
and
the
residences
don't
throw
this
junk
in
the
street.
Put
it
in
bags,
Jason
I
know
you've
been
over
here,
twitching
your
thumbs.
So
why
don't
you
give
me
give
the
report
for
the
fire
department?
Oh
Kristen
was
going
there.
N
Well,
good
evening
everybody
I'm
Chief
assistant
chief
Davis,
with
the
Biloxi
fire
department,
cheap,
guys,
there's
the
fire
chief
of
the
fire
department
back
in
2021.
He
and
I
became
the
face
of
the
Biloxi
fire
department.
It's
a
lot.
That's
been
happening
within
the
fire
department
and
also
within
the
city
of
Biloxi
I'm,
not
going
to
have
as
much
as
Chief
debec
had
and
Jerry
creel
had
a
direct
career.
But
you
need
to
know
that,
since
we've
been
in,
we
hit
the
ground
running.
N
N
N
Those
trucks
can
possibly
come
because
if
your
immediate
fire
trucker
that's
out
there
at
the
market,
Sherry
library
is
tied
up.
Then
they
come
in
backfield.
One
of
the
good
things
about
backfilling.
Is
we
try
now,
since
we're
running
more
medical
calls
than
fire
calls?
We
try
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
paramedic
which
can
respond
to
Advanced
life,
support,
meaning
they're,
carrying
all
the
drugs
that
paramedics
carry
that
can
help
you
when
you
have
Cardiac
Arrest
episode
or
other
life-threatening
injuries.
N
Usually
the
firefighter
was
always
made
to
be
BLS,
which
is
basic
life
support
where
we
are
doing
CPR
and
carrying
stuff
like
that.
But
now,
since
about
maybe
six
to
eight
years
ago,
every
firefighter
have
to
be
a
EMT,
simply
meaning
that
you
have
to
be
medically
trained,
since
we
have
sort
of
gravitated
to
that
kind
of
response.
So
the
good
news
for
you
all
is
that
all
your
firefighters
are
medically
trained.
So
when
we
get
there
because
sometimes
it
takes
that
AMR
a
long
time
now,
that's
a
long
time
to
get
there.
N
So
we
got
to
make
sure
that
we
are
giving
you
the
best
care.
So
you
should
feel
comfortable
in
Biloxi,
knowing
that
we
got
your
best
interest
at
heart
at
station
Seven
that
fire
truck
I
would
say
a
little
bit
about
it.
We
sort
of
cater
or
put
a
decal
on
that
truck.
It
represents
the
Biloxi
public
schools,
because
that
helps
us
with
our
recruiting
new
firefighters,
Engine
7
and
engine
six,
which
is
the
MARTA
Sherry
library
and
the
fire
station
there
by
Cedar
Lake
respond
to
the
high
school
when
there's
an
emergency.
N
So
therefore,
when
you
pull
up
at
the
high
school
with
that
new
fire
truck
you'll
see
the
Biloxi
schools
logo
on
the
side
of
it.
So
when
you
see
that
you'll
know
that,
oh
that's
the
fine
trip
that
he
was
talking
about,
which
is
very
important
when
recruiting
speaking
of
recruiting
the
555
Department,
we
just
graduated
eight
new
recruits
out
of
the
fire
academy.
That
class
was
hosted
here
locally
because
we
do
a
send
firefighters
to
Jackson
to
the
fire
academy.
Not
sometimes
we
have
classes
here.
N
So
we
just
graduated
eight,
the
five
departments
as
we
hiring
right
now
we
are
short.
We
have
so
many
people
that
are
retiring.
We
had
a
hiring
freeze
so
a
while,
back
after
the
BP
oil
spill
and
Hurricane
Katrina,
we
sort
of
went
into
a
I
guess
a
pretty
much
a
stop
sign
came
up
with
the
mayor
in
the
city
and
said
no
hiring.
So
with
that
happening
we
got
so
many
fafas.
They
were
hired
at
one
time
and
now
those
firefighters
are
retiring,
but
we
have
a
gap
there.
N
So
we
trying
to
fill
that
Gap.
So
retention
is
tough
right
now,
but
the
administration,
the
council,
really
been
working
with
us
to
make
sure
that
we
can
sort
of
have
the
best
benefit
package
for
the
firefighters
and
that's
really
been
happening.
So
now
we're
accepting
laterals
a
fast
rate
and
also
new
firefighters.
We
sort
of
changed
our
hiring
process.
We
do
the
hiring
assessment
every
other
month
now,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
keep
the
firefighters
coming
in
faster
than
they
did
before
25
years
ago.
N
It
took
me
about
two
and
a
half
years
to
get
hired
with
the
bud
Supply
department,
but
now
we
just
hired
our
last
group
in
four
months,
so
we
feel
like
we're,
making
good
progress
and
we're
very
excited
about
it.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
event
planning
I'm
almost
done
the
event
planning
is
something
I
really
want
to
share
with
you
all
I
know
that
is
I,
think
Chief
said
it
best.
N
We
happen
to
be
the
place
to
come
for
special
events
in
the
state
of
Mississippi,
well,
Gulf
Coast
and
it
sort
of
happened
throughout
our
careers,
and
we
see
that
everybody
want
to
come
to
Biloxi.
Well,
one
thing
that
I
want
to
reassure
you
about,
and
let
you
know
is
that
when
you
come
to
Biloxi,
even
though
you
see
all
the
vehicles
and
you
live
here
in
Biloxi,
the
fire
department
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
you
still
can
receive
the
same
response
that
you
get
in
normal
circumstances.
N
So
when
you
have
a
traffic
backed
up
all
the
way
down,
Highway
90
all
the
way
down
pass
road.
We
make
sure
that
we
plan
ahead
so
that
we
can
respond
to
you
if
you're
having
chest
pains.
So
we
can
respond
to
you
if
a
baby
need
to
be
delivered.
We
make
sure
that
we
have
things
in
place
where
that
you
still
get
that
same
response.
So
I
want
to
reassure
you
and
let
you
know,
even
though
a
lot
of
people
are
here
on
the
coast,
you're
not
being
forgotten,
we
still
are
coming
to
you.
N
A
N
N
N
So
let's
make
sure
that
we
do
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
prepare
that
he
had
talked
about
make
sure
you
know
what
area
you
live
in,
whether
that
area
flood
make
sure
you
do
everything
that
you
can
do
so
that
an
event
something
do
happen.
You've
done
your
due
diligence
and
it
makes
sure
that
you're
safe
and
we're
coming
to
a
certain
point
when
the
wind
started
blowing
to
a
certain
mile
per
hour,
the
fire
department
shuts
down
and
we
don't
respond
anymore.
N
If
you
spoke
to
Texas
are
not
working,
please
give
us
a
call,
and
let
us
know
so
that
we
can
come
out
and
make
sure
you
have
working
smoke,
detectors
and
remember
to
change
your
battery
every
time,
time
change
or
when
you
hear
it
start
beeping,
don't
knock
it
down
with
the
broom,
make
sure
that
we
put
a
new
battery
in
there.
That's
all
I
have
Council
hey.
Oh
any
questions.
B
I'll
tell
you:
I
knew
the
fire
department
did
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
did
not
know
they
deliver
babies.
That
is,
that
is
impressive.
We
do
we
do.
Oh
I
want
to
get
on
to
the
Department
of
parks
and
recs
Jamie
Lee
is
here
in
in
a
stead
of
the
director
Sherry
Bell.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
in
the
world,
especially
near
Margaret,
Sherry
Library.
We
see
the
parks
closed
down
right
now
because
of
the
lighting
conditions
and
I
know.
B
If
you're,
if
you're
on
Facebook,
with
one
of
my
councilman
Kenny
glavin,
he
poses
incessantly
about
AJ,
Holloway's,
Park,
flooding
and
closing
down
and
how
we're
not
competitive
with
pops,
Pop,
Warner
baseball
or
not
pop
warner,
Little
League
Baseball,
we
are
I,
think
I,
don't
know
where
the
bond
measure
is,
but
we
we
do
have
a
bond
measure
out
there
to
generate
some
funds
to
address.
This
funds
will
be
spent
to
address
A.J
holidays
Park,
as
well
as
the
pops
Ferry
Recreational
Park.
We
have
a.
B
We
have
a
proposal,
I
think
with
Mississippi
power
to
do
a
lease
program
versus
bidding
it
out
and
paying
for
it.
We're
working
through
that
to
find
the
right,
Financial
fit
for
the
city
of
Biloxi,
but
the
Park's
been
closed
for
a
couple
months
now
and
we
are
working
diligently
to
get
it
back
up
and
ready
or
up
and
running
Mr
Lee,
if
you
want
to
take
over
for
it.
For
me.
O
Thank
you,
councilman
I,
appreciate
that,
as
he
said
before,
my
name
is
Jamie
Lee
I'm,
the
assistant
director
of
The,
Parks
and
Recreation
Department,
now
I
know
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
to
follow.
Chief
Davis
with
what
he
just
went
through,
but
I'll
give
him
my
best
shot.
Councilman
Deming
mentioned
yeah.
One
of
our
main
projects
that
we
are
looking
at
is
the
AJ
Holloway
renovation.
O
Looking
at
Turf
in
those
fields,
that's
still
out
on
the
bid
process
right
now
and
we're
hoping
to
receive
some
bids
toward
the
end
of
the
month,
but
pops
Ferry
is
an
important
part
of
it
as
well.
You
know
the
the
lighting
is
so
old
out
there
that
we
are
looking
at
different
options
of
removing
those
poles
and,
or
you
know,
possibly
replacing
the
lights.
We're
going
through
figures
see
what
we
can
do
with
that.
O
The
Causeway
we're
looking
also,
you
know
toward
the
end
of
the
causeway,
those
solar
lights
that
have
been
burned
out.
We
are
looking
at
options
of
replacing
those
they
are
no
longer
available
to
replace
so
we're
looking
at
different
different
options
on
what
we
can
do.
So
we
can
get
all
of
that
Lit
back
up
again
and
you
know
hopefully
provide
extra
safety
down
there.
O
Pickleball
pickleball
is
one
of
the
fastest
things
growing
I,
don't
know
if
you've
been
here
and
seen
it
going
on
here.
You
see
these
Brown
lines
that
are
on
the
floor.
Those
are
the
dimensions
for
a
pickleball
court
that
they
set
up
in
here
during
times
so,
but
as
far
as
the
pops
Ferry
pickleball
complex
goes
Christie.
Just
let
me
know
that
that
the
bid
was
awarded
for
the
restroom
facility
out
there,
so
it
will
be.
O
Construction
should
start
on
that
relatively
soon,
but
you
know
as
Parks
and
Rec
we're,
just
of
course
she
knows
throughout
your
own
homes,
your
yards,
the
grass
is
growing
really
well
now,
and
so
we're
trying
to
keep
up
and
cut
all
those.
We
have
a
lot
of
logistics
going
on
with
different
events
through
the
city,
some
of
the
rodeo
sudden
tents
tables
chairs
up
and
of
course,
our
Civic
Center
continues
to
be
utilized.
I
will
speak
into
the
event
coordinator,
that's
over
the
Civic,
Center
and
I.
O
H
H
O
Right
and
sure
I
mean
that's,
definitely
something
we
can
look
into
I
know
for
those
of
you
that
may
live
by
Pennzoil
I
believe
you
know.
In
the
last
few
years
we
had
some
installed
at
Pennzoil
on
their
walking
tracks.
So
so
that's
definitely
something
that
we
will.
We
will
look
into
and
explore
options.
O
I
O
O
O
You
know
there
are
some
options
that
we
could
look
at,
whether
you
know
it
could
possibly
be
putting
some
sand
and
Limestone
down
even
just
something.
You
know
something
to
help
deter
that,
but
I
was
not
aware
of
that,
but
just
like
about
I
will
go
by
there
and
and
look
at
those
two
concerns
for
you.
O
I
can't
I
can't
answer
that.
I
do
know
that
you
know
we
we're
responsible.
Our
department
is
responsible
for
the
the
grounds
there,
cutting
the
grass
weed
eating
and
and
all
of
that,
but
as
far
as
the
actual
parking
lot
goes,
that
would
be
some
probably
councilman.
Deming
could
help
you,
you
know
look
into
as
as
that
goes.
G
B
G
O
O
Right
and
you
know
I
would,
if
I
had
to
guess
you
know
what
all
those
pine
trees
around
there.
You
start
getting
roots
that
want
to
bust
up
the.
So
you
know
when
I
go
out
there
tomorrow.
I
will
also
walk
that
track
and
see
if
there
are
any
hazards
that
we
can
at
least
identify
until
we
can
get
something
to
be
done
with
those.
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir.
O
Well,
the
issue
is
no,
they
are
and
we
are
actually
in
the
process
of
getting
and
getting
them
removed.
We're
we're
working
with
Administration
right
now
to
look
just
totally
going
in
there
and
taking
it
out.
Supposedly
there
is
a
spring
or
something
that
is
underneath
that
court
and
they
had
to
put
so
much
concrete
in
there
when
they
we
were
actually
talking
about
it
earlier
today
and
and
so
so
as
soon
as
they
poured
it.
It
wasn't
six
months
later
it
was
all
cracking.
O
So
what
we
need
to
do
is
go
in
there
and
remove
it
and
identify,
maybe
where
those
areas
are
and
possibly
build
something,
maybe
a
little
smaller,
not
as
large
as
the
tennis
courts,
but
maybe
put
a
few
pickleball
courts,
but
they
may
have
to
be
you
know,
kind
of
maybe
out
toward
the
pond
a
little
bit
more
or
something
like
that
because,
as
you
know,
know
that
ditch
right
there
between
the
tennis
courts
and
the
road
where
people
like
to,
of
course,
mud
ride
and
all
that
you
know
that
constantly
stays
wet
right.
There.
O
So
there
there's
no
telling
what
could
be
under
there
and
you
know
I
think
the
only
way
we'll
really
be
able
to
assess
that
is
once
we
remove
all
that
and
can
kind
of
see.
You
know
what
our
options
are
going
forward
with
that
with
that
right.
There,
yes,
ma'am
you're,
welcome
yes,
sir
the
dog
park
at
Heller
park
or
the
dog
park
out
at
Pop's
Ferry.
No,
sir
I
have
not.
O
E
O
And
you
know
one
of
the
things
was:
you
know
when
that
complex
was
built.
That's
where
all
of
most
of
all
the
play
migrated
to
you
know
it
did
everybody
started
playing
out
at
the
AJ
Holloway
complex
and
that's
where
the
efforts
were
really
put
forward
to-
and
you
know
like
you
said,
though,
with
now
that
possibly
being
shut
down
for
renovations.
You
know
there
are
other
areas
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
where
people
can
go.
O
Like
you
said
the
bombers
took
over
to
meet
us
savaro,
we're
looking
at
you
know,
getting
the
lights
replaced
there,
hopefully
relatively
soon,
Hiller
Park
wearing
works
of
trying
to
get.
You
know
some
dirt
there
to
level
those
fields
out.
So
we
are,
we
are
working
slowly,
I
understand,
but
trying
to
get
some
of
those
parts
back
up
to
playable
conditions
where
they
can
go
out.
O
O
E
B
I'll
tell
you
with
that
with
the
dog
parking,
it
is
tough
to
get
people
on
the
council
in
the
city.
You'd
want
to
spend
money
on
the
dog,
but
he's
right.
It
does
have
an
impact.
It's
one
of
the
most
used
parts.
People
take
their
kids
every
day
when
I
say
kids,
I
mean
they're,
fur,
kids
or
fur
babies
right
they
do
it's
a
very
well
trafficked
and
used
dog
park
and
I.
There
was
a
gentleman
a
young.