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A
C
A
C
Okay,
so
just
to
bring
the
commission
back
up
to
speed,
we
did
not
have
Quorum.
The
commission
did
not
have
Quorum
at
the
last
meeting
to
make
a
determination
on
this
application.
The
key
things
that
were
brought
up
at
the
last
meeting
that
the
commission
had
some
concerns
with
were
the
location,
size
massing
and
the
internal
illumination
of
the
signage.
C
Everybody
should
be
very
familiar
with
the
application
at
this
point
in
time.
The
staff
findings
have
not
changed
right
from
the
last
meeting
as
presented,
and
so
now
the
commission,
since
there
is
a
quorum
for
the
application
which
we
do
have.
Yes,
you
know
this.
We
can
open
it
up
to
discussion
and
Mick.
Who
is
there
should
announce
studies
recusing
himself
if
he
has
not
already.
D
A
C
A
E
A
A
A
F
A
A
A
A
A
F
You
know
that
you
know
this
committee
agrees
with
the
backlit
sign
because
of
its
design.
It's
specific
to
the
building.
You
know
like
somehow
say
something
that
you
approved
the
design
of
it
and
it's
in
good
taste
with
you
know
with
that.
So
you
can
look
back
in
the
future
and
just.
I
C
H
F
As
Mark
said,
he
reached
out
to
shipo
okay.
Now
that
was
a
phone
conversation.
It
wasn't
memorialized
in
an
email
or
anything,
but
they
had
you
know
we
and
we
may
be.
We
may
be
able
to
go
back
and
ask
that
for
that
that
information
I
mean
we.
F
H
G
J
Well,
while
we're
doing
I
I
love
that
sign
it's
perfect
for
the
building,
I
think
that
we
need
to
find
it's
not
going
to
be
a
bright
sign
it.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
get
that
backlit,
somehow
as
to
where
it
is
I
mean
it's
on
the
edge
of
the
district.
It's
near
the
stadium,
which
right
has
a
ton
of
crack
left
side,
but
they're,
not
in
the
they're,
not
in
the
district,
either
may
I
suggest.
F
This,
where
do
you
have
counsel,
obviously,
who
who
cancels.
F
But
if
they're
trying
to
find
a
way
to
write
this
up,
they
did
a
record
to
to
save
themselves
from
precedent
moving
forward,
so
to
speak,
the
language
I'm
not
smart
enough
to
give
you
the
language
you
know
and
I
and
I'm
not
saying
nobody
here
is
but
I
see
what
the
issue
is.
You
want
to
find
a
way
to
approve
this
particular
sign,
but
without
being
you
know
what
exactly
in
the
future
for
other
side.
H
We
are
trying
to
find
the
means
of
allowing
the
backlighting
for
the
sign
that
allows
us
to
move
forward
as
we're
in
the
21st
century,
because
there'll
be
other,
very
appropriate
signs
without
cutting
our
our
throats
to
being
able
to
have
to
say
yes
to
every
back
that
sign
that
comes
along.
This
seems
to
us
to
be
an
extraordinarily
appropriate
sign
for
a
specific
location.
Now
I
wouldn't
put
it
up
at
Thomas
Marty's
because
of
becoming
the
station
Bar
and
Grill.
H
H
Well,
first,
excuse
me
for
being
late,
so
when
we
just
go
back
up
from
the
last
meeting,
I
think
you
headed
in
the
direction
that
we
talked
about
was
trying
to
find
this
situation.
This
project,
unique
to
the
point
where
this
sign
and
its
location
and
the
applicants
desire
to
backlighted
would
be
unique
and
different
from
any
other
song
that
we
had
coming
in
and
again
we're.
You
know
the
response
to
follow.
H
You
know
the
guidelines
in
the
city
from
the
study
that
was
done
and
and
I
had
heard,
Mike
I
think
you
were
mentioning
that
maybe
they
need
to
be
looked
at
again
and
that's
the
case.
That
may
be
something
that
we
want
to
have
done,
but
we're
charged
with
following
that
which
was
adopted
by
the
city
council.
So
we're
stuck
in
those
kind
of
terms
if
the
board
feel
conventional
but
hey,
there's
some
things
in
there
that
we
want
to
update
and
modernize,
then
I
think
that's
appropriate
and
we
could.
H
The
planning
about
that
and
and
go
from
there
and
maybe
I
mean
it's
been
a
long
time
since
I've
read
them
all.
You
know
when
they
come
up
in
each
application.
I
read
them
so
so,
if
you
are
coming
around
to
you
know,
the
sign
is
nice.
It's
a
nice
looking
time
if
you've
got
past
the
location,
because
it's
that's
a
unique
building,
so
it
really
is
it
a
principal
facade,
I,
guess:
I,
don't
know
I!
H
H
E
B
The
applicant
can't
appeal
to
city
council
regarding
you:
can
the
applicant
can
appeal
to
city
council
regarding
decision
made
by
this
Commission,
and
it
is?
It
is
a
local
landmark
as
well.
F
Just
so
I
understand,
let
me
ask
please
no
one
should
take
this
the
wrong
way.
If
this
board
decides
that
the
sign
is
not
appropriate
and
we
shouldn't
put
it
up,
but
we
do
put
it
up,
you
have,
no,
we
don't
enforce
you
don't
enforce.
Is
there
someone
that's
gonna,
you're
telling
me?
Maybe
city,
council
or
someone
planning
I
mean,
has.
B
Oh
yeah,
oh
yeah,
the
zoning
officer
will
make
the
initial
determination
regarding
compliance,
send
violation
letters
and
then
it
progresses.
B
H
Hi
Nick
Terrell
I
represent
signs,
I've
been
listening
to
everything
and
been
through
Cod
quite
a
few
times
for
the
same
type
of
issues.
I
think
you,
sir.
H
H
Up
Channel
letters,
but
if
it's
something
that
I
mean
I
haven't
seen
before,
but
I
mean
based
on
what
you're
saying,
I
think
that
I
I
think
that
exceptions
can
be
made
and
I
think
that
yeah
people
are
going
to
come
forward
and
they're
going
to
say.
Well
what
about
that?
One?
And
you
have
the
wordage
in
there
to
explain
why
it
was
approved
because
you're
right
having
a
bunch
of
gooseneck
I
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
gooseneck
quite
in
on
science,
but
in
the
right
place.
They're
appropriate
I'd.
D
Like
to
introduce
our
new
Council
for
station
45.,.
D
H
C
Hey,
can
everyone
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
so
just
just
a
couple
points
of
clarification.
One
I
just
want
to
make
a
note.
The
commission,
any
decision
that
the
commission
makes
can
be
appealed
to
city
council
and
the
applicant
has
the
right
to
request
an
appeal
within
15
days
of
the
commission's
determination,
and
that
is
a
typical
process
for
appealing
any
decision
that
the
commission
makes.
The
second
point
I
just
want
to
make
is
I.
C
There
has
been
some
discussion
that
the
commission's
been
having
about
this
property
being
somewhat
different,
because
it's
on
the
edge
of
the
historic
district.
Well,
that's
correct.
The
property
is
also
a
local
Landmark,
so
the
precedent
would
be
set
for
all
local
landmarks,
so
just
I
want
the
commission
to
just
be
aware
of
that.
Okay,
thank.
G
H
I
think
that
kind
of
gave
me
the
guidance
I
was
looking
for.
You
understood
the
appeal
thing:
city,
council,
I'm,
gonna,
walk
around
the
room
and
asking
an
opinion
on
the
sign,
because
I
think
our
our
ultimate
decision
is
already
there,
but
we're
going
to
make
with
your
consent
a
proactive
statement
from
the
Commission
in
support
of
the
sign
that
we
do
not
have
the
authority
to
allow
at
this
time
that
we
would
be
supportive
of
Mr
yanati,
getting
a
variance
with
City
pounce.
I
Yeah
I,
like
the
sign
I,
just
think
we
have
to
be
careful
with
letting
keep
making
an
open
door
for
signs
in
the
future,
so
I
I'm
in
support
of
it,
but
it
needs
to
be
better
to
find
I
can
start
kind
of
what
we're
running
off
of
right
now.
G
D
H
We
set
that
President
up
as
well,
so
I
think
we
could
make
a
definitive
decision
here
to
support
it
with
many
caveats
and
rationale
behind
it:
Mr
Ellsworth
I.
H
H
If
that
wants
to
be
challenged
in
the
future,
then
we
should
talk
about
it
and
discuss
it,
but
there
was
some
pretty
wild.
You
know
this
is
not
one
of
those
wild
applications
that
can
be
back.
We've
had
some
pretty.
You
know
really
wild
signs
and
and
flashing
and
running
things
happening
with
that.
So
I
guess
I'm
in
agreement,
the.
G
H
I
was
wondering
if
and
I
don't
know
that
much
about
the
signs
of
what
the
degree.
A
H
G
H
F
Understand
the
mummy
today
yeah
yeah,
you
want
to
approve
this
sign,
but
you
know
you
you're
trying
to
find
the
right
way
to
do
it
so
based
on
the
current
laws
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
correct
it's
written.
F
We
do
like
my
suggestion,
would
be
why
don't
we
or
you
this
or
talk
to
the
city's
lawyers
and
explain
to
you
how
to
pass
this
particular
sign
with
the
right
verbiage.
So
it
gives
you
the
out
in
the
future.
F
You
know
to
be
able
to
consider
these
on
a
a
a
a
project
by
project
basis,
because
if,
if
you
you're
going
to
have
to
turn
this
down
today,
so
we
can
go
through
the
appeals
process.
I'm,
not
sure
that's
good
for
us,
I
I,
don't
know!
Because
we're
going
to
have
to
go
to
our
lawyer
now
and
say:
hey
here's
what
happened
we
got
turned
on!
They
wanted
us
to
go
to
City
Council,
the
city.
H
F
The
anonymous
I'm
just
worried
that
city
council,
if
we
were
able
to
convince
them
to
do
this,
that
they
would
change
the
law
in
order
for
them
to
be
able
to
do
it
to
say
that
backlit
signs
are
permissible.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
much
easier,
if
you
at
least
to
start
to
go
to
your
Council
and
say
Hey,
how
do
we
write
this
up
as
an
approval
like
table
it
for
today?
F
How
do
we
write
this
up
as
approval
to
give
us
the
coverage
we
need
to
to
allow
this
sign
to
be
installed
and
still
have
you
know
a
say
in
a
project
by
project
basis
that
that's
that's
what
I
I'm
afraid
that,
if
you
don't
do
that,
if
this
can
open
a
bigger
can
of
worms
now
I'm,
not
a
lawyer,
but
I
know
that
if
I
have
to
go
to
City
Council,
who
are
lawmakers
they're
only
out,
maybe
to
change
the
law
and
if
I
can
convince
them
to
do
that,
you're
not
going
to
have
backlit
signs
running
wild
all
over
town,
not
again,
I,
don't
know
how
many
backlit
sign!
H
H
H
Yeah,
quite
a
bit,
and-
and
we
really
and
with
Mike's
initiative
as
a
board,
we
we
determined
the
goose
necks
weren't
going
to
work,
they'd
be
more
detrimental
to
the
building.
We
looked
for
some
other
types
and
something
that
would
shine
up
from
the
ground
up,
yeah
I,
don't
know
up
until
snow
or
something
right.
We've.
F
Given
this
a
lot
of
thought
and
and
the
best
way
to
project
with
this
backlit
with
LED
lighting,
you
know
we
don't
we
that
possibility
from
up
above
our
phone.
You
just
can't
get
enough
like
you
know
those
Batman
signs,
you'd
be
putting
up.
It'd
have
to
be
that
bright
to
try
and
get
something
to
stand
out,
and
you
know.
H
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
cut
you
off
for
a
minute,
I'm,
very
comfortable
with
this
statement
about
Tay
wing
it
and
and
asking
city
council
for
some
some
guidance
in
this
to
move.
F
H
D
It's
white
acrylic,
basically.
E
H
And
there's
no
there's
no
control
to
change
the
color
or
anything
like
that.
Right.
F
That's
it!
Okay.
Now
it's
a
good
question
because
you
know
it
we
could
have
had
it
so
it
changed
colors,
but
we
absolutely
are
not
doing
that.
It's
white.
It
has
one
driver
in
it
for
the
one
color
LED
lighting
and
that's
it
and
there
are
no
plans.
There
will
never
be
any
plans
to
change
the
color
of.
G
H
So
I'm
I'm
comfortable
to
make
the
motion
to
table
this
pending
advice
from
Corporation
Council
moving
forward
for
our
next
meeting.
H
Sorry
I'll
go
right
ahead.
Trying
to
establish
a
record
did
I
hear
you
say
you
talked
to
shippo
get
a
verbal
conversational
ship
up.
Yes,.
D
H
I
wonder
if
there's
any
sometimes
they're
busier
than
normal
put
it.
That
way.
Is
there
any
chance
of
getting
something
in
writing
from
them?
That
they've
responded
to
this
sign.
D
I
I
request
I
requested
Sean
to
reach
out
to
them
after
I
did
okay
and
they
can
probably
provide
him.
But
we.
H
C
Can
everyone
hear
me
yes,
okay,
just
to
clarify
that
point
on
the
record,
the
applicant
asked
me
to
have
shippo
weigh
in
on
this
case
in
lieu
of
the
commission's
review.
I
was
not
asked
to
reach
out
to
shippo
on
the
applicant's
behalf.
F
C
H
C
H
So
form
that
in
your
motion,
please
mm-hmm,
okay,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
table
the
project
of
the
Lackawanna
Railroad
Station
station
SQ,
45,
Lewis
Street
at
this
time,
pending
guidance
from
city
of
binghamton's,
Corporation
Council,
and
requesting
some
feedback
from
the
shippo
office
to
the
board
as
to
how
to
proceed.
G
H
At
this
time,
I
would
like
to
step
down
is
interim
chairman
of
the
city
of
England's
commission
architecture,
driven
design
and
turn
it
over
to
the
actual
chairman,
unless
he's
so
disposed
to
sit
on
the
sideline
no
I'll
I'll
accept,
even
though
I've
been
abused
this
morning.
That.
I
E
H
C
Okay,
so
the
this
is
an
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
The
applicant
is
3i,
graphics
and
signs,
and
this
is
for
new
signage
along
the
storefront
lintel
I-beam,
located
at
122
Washington
Street.
The
applicant
is
hoping
to
install
some
gold
acrylic
lettering
for
the
new
business
located
at
that
address,
in
that
lentil,
I-beam
and
I
will
go
to
the
signage
right
here.
So
here
you
go
the
just.
So
the
commission
is
aware.
The
the
painting
scheme
here
is
not
part
of
this
application.
C
H
Yeah
applicant
yeah
Nick
Terrell
book
Nick
Terrell
from
Triad,
graphics
and
science
yeah
right
now,
we're
just
they're
gonna,
be
I,
believe
they're
going
to
be
quarter
inch
thick,
acrylic
gold
letters,
they'll
be
painted
gold
somehow
attached
to
that
I-beam.
G
H
That,
to
be
perfectly
honest,
that
is
our
challenge
right
now.
What
we
will
likely
do
is
put
the
letters
on
some
type
of
a
backer
panel.
It
will
match
the
color
of
the
the
I-beam
so
eat.
The
individual
letter
will
be
a
patch
it'll
be
attached
to
the
backer
panel,
and
then
we
will
attach
the
backer
panel
to
the
ID.
If
I'm.
A
Mechanically
fast
because.
H
Typically,
with
these
type
of
letters,
they're
they're,
like
studs
on
the
back
of
them,
we
put
a
pattern
up
and
when
we
drill
holes
for
the
studs
to
go
into
we're,
not
going
to
do
that
with
this
I-beam.
H
H
The
sign
itself
in
this
new
information,
which
I
think
is
appropriate
to
put
the
backer
panel
on
as
opposed
to
multiple
you
know
indentations
or
holes
in
the
beam.
H
H
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
so
Sean.
My
question
is:
whenever
we
look
at
look
at
paintings,
we
have
historic
paint,
colors
and
obviously
black
is
probably
one
of
those
historic
paint.
Colors,
but
I
never
saw
the
situation
where
we
painted
all
the
detail.
The
same
color
now
was
that
is
that
not
a
requirement
in
historic
guidelines,
because
there's
so
many
details
on
historic
buildings
that
get
accentuated
from
paint?
Why
is
this
different.
C
Yeah,
it's
that's,
not
accurate
right,
so
the
details
here
right.
We
have
an
existing
storefront,
that's
painted
white
and
then
there's
the
gray
and
the
bulkheads
when
the
administrative
application
was
reviewed,
I
reached
out
and
spoke
with
them
about
having
two
different
colors,
just
as
is
present
on
the
current
storefront
right
so
leaving
the
bulkheads
the
they
could.
You
know
I
made
it
clear
that
they
could
leave
them
unpainted.
They
could
paint
them
to
match
the
existing
color
or
if
they
wanted
to
change
the
color.
C
They
could
include
that
within
the
application-
and
they
indicated
to
me
that
they
were
not
going
to
change
the
color
of
the
bulkhead
panels
right
so
that
gray
color
was
to
remain
and
then
the
rest.
The
areas
that
are
painted
white
would
be
painted.
The
if
memory
is
serving
me
right.
It's
a
it's.
A
dark,
green
I
forget
the
specific
color
name.
It's
a
very,
very
dark,
green.
C
C
There
was
always
going
to
be
a
differentiation
of
color
and
at
one
point
they
reached
back
out
to
me
and
said
you
know
actually
we'd
like
to
paint
everything.
One
color
and
I
told
them
that
that
was
not
not
included
within
the
approval
and
if
they
wanted
to
do
that,
they
would
have
to
come
before
the
commission.
C
C
This
is
a
local
Landmark
property,
42,
Riverside
Drive,
it's
also
located
within
the
Abel
Bennett
historic
district
and
the
applicant
here
is
seeking
to
do
work
that
I'm,
just
going
to
summarize,
is,
is
generally
very
consistent
with
the
guidelines.
Most
of
it
is
repair
work,
there's
only
really.
C
It
just
barely
meets
the
threshold
of
extending
Beyond,
what's
considered
routine
repair
and
maintenance,
simply
because
there
is
the
changing
out
of
some
materials
and
in
some
cases
that
changing
out
of
the
materials
is
actually
more
consistent
with
the
historic
property
than
what
is
currently
there.
C
The
applicant
intends
to
basically
restore
the
original
wood
soft
bit
they're,
going
to
replace
the
10
Yankee
gutters
with
copper,
Yankee,
gutters
and
downspouts,
and
then
the
siding
is
going
to
be
basically
where
you
can
see
the
deterioration
of
a
spec,
particularly
at
the
Dormer
sort
of
at
the
the
ridge
between
the
roof
and
the
Dormers
repair.
C
The
wood
Shake
siding
with
a
new
Cedar
Shake
siding
to
match,
and
then
there's
damaged
the
front
porch
as
well,
and
the
applicant
is
intending
to
repair
all
of
the
water
damaged
areas
and
any
wood
rot
and
replace
in
kind
with
a
matching
wood.
H
All
right,
thank
you,
applicant,
want
to
add
anything.
H
Original
was
right
now,
it's
mostly
about
getting
sockets
done.
The
big
changes
that
we're
switching
from
a
10
for
the
Yankee
gutters
to
Copper,
because
this
thing.
H
G
H
Make
copper
coated
screws
because
you
really
you
you
need
to
buffer
the
Copper
from
any
other
type
of
metal
or
it's
it
changes
rapidly
and
not
for
the
better.
You
know:
it'll
deteriorate
the
openings,
everything
just
a
suggestion.
G
E
K
C
H
One
question:
no,
it's!
Okay!
The
only
dealing
The
Authority
here,
yeah
I'd,
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project,
is
presented
or
42
Riverside
Drive
for
the
repair
to
fascia
the
transition
from
10
Yankee
gutters
to
Copper,
with
appropriate
Fasteners
and
copper
downspouts
and
recognizing
the
other
necessary
repairs
to
the
building
to
make
it
stand
and
look
appropriate
going
forward.
I
C
I,
just
one
quick
question
for
the
commission
is
the
current
gutters
and
downspouts
are
painted?
Will
the
copper
gutters
be
painted
or
will
he
be
leaving
them.
C
H
C
C
C
66
exchange
streets:
this
is
again
an
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
The
applicant
in
this
case
is
Stephanie
Burr
with
the
Broome
County
Planning
Department.
This
is
sort
of
a
revision
in
some
ways
to
an
application
that
was
presented
about
a
I
guess
a
year
and
a
few
months
ago.
C
At
this
point,
the
commission
will
likely
recall
the
series
of
murals
that
were
part
of
the
or
funded
by
the
eye,
District
program
that
came
before
the
commission
again
a
year
and
a
few
months
ago,
and
so
this
is
a
sort
of
a
replacement
mural.
C
That's
proposed
to
be
about
16
by
20
feet
in
size,
and
it's
going
to
be
located
on
the
south
facing
facade
of
66,
Exchange
Street,
and
so
this
is
just
the
new
design.
The
previous
design
was
the
again
sort
of
like
a
floral
pattern,
but
I
believe
and
Stephanie
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
that
the
muralist
had
to
drop
out,
and
so
this
is
a
a
substitute
artist.
K
Hello,
thank
you
Sean
yep,
so
the
previous
artist
Scott
eurco.
He
had
to
drop
out
for
some
personal
reasons,
so
we
were
able
to
pair
m
t
with
Carlos
Culbertson
AKA
Zulu
painter
he's
an
artist
from
Miami
he's
painted
dozens
of
murals
Across,
the
Nation
and
internationally.
So
pretty
lucky.
K
To
have
such
a
great
artist
want
to
come
and
paint
here
we
would
be
looking
at
a
2023
installation,
probably
late
spring
early
summer,
depending
on
Carlos's
schedule
and
then
kind
of
just
so
echoing
what
Sean
said
this
I
think
would
be
the
fifth
mural
approved
by
Cod
for
the
city
and
about
like
the
10th
in
our
program
in
all
three
downtown
areas
and
then
I
guess
I'll
just
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
design.
The
artist
spoke
with
them
in
tea
and
they
really
wanted
to
show
themes
of
community.
K
K
Representation,
I,
guess
and
then
I
guess:
they're,
just
symbolism
of
community
growth
and
New
Beginnings
in
the
mural.
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
let
me
know.
G
H
G
H
H
Okay,
on
with
demolitions,
I
guess.
C
Okay,
so
we've
moved
on
to
the
determinations
of
significance
for
demolition
and
I'll.
Try
to
keep
these
these
brief.
This
is
a
a
building,
a
red
former
Residential
Building
in
the
city's
first
word,
neighborhood
designed
it's
a
craftsman
style
house,
you
can
just
barely
make
out
the
the
stone
Piers
for
the
porch
and
the
photos
that
were
provided
beyond
that.
The
building
did
not
appear
to
possess
any
of
the
criteria
for
a
positive
determination
of
historical
significance.
H
J
J
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affected
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public-private
water
supply
public-private
wastewater
treatment
utilities?
No?
J
Will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
Natural
Resources,
Wetlands
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna
known?
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
of
in
the
potential
resources
of
human
health?
No
I'd
like
to
think.
G
H
C
C
There
were
some
figures
who
were
at
least
more
notable
in
binghamton's
community
and
were
active
in
the
community
and
I've
I've
sort
of
listed
them
out
for
the
commission's
consideration.
There
were
a
few
businesses
that
were
run
from
this
property,
so
it
seems
like
it
was,
it
was
pretty
active
and
that
was
included
in
the
staff
report.
So
if
the
commission's,
considering
any
of
the
criteria
in
this
case,
probably
would
need
to
spend
the
most
time
on
criteria,
three
Criterion
three
excuse
me.
H
Okay,
thank
you.
So
the
photographs,
no
interior
photographs,
the
the
building
itself,
doesn't
look
too
bad
from
the
photographs.
So
it
must
be
there's
something
that
the
city
doesn't
like
about
it.
C
H
G
I
H
I
H
So,
typically
in
the
past,
if
we
find
one
of
these
criteria,
significant
or
weren't
weren't
a
discussion,
you
end
up
moving
forward
with
some
type
of
historic
significance:
historic
you
know,
shippo
situation
or
a
plaque
or
something
that
identifies
what
we
found
is
significant
just
to
keep
that
in
mind.
H
H
So
that's
another
option
that
we've
done:
we've
done,
plaques
people
already:
John
I'm.
Sorry,
man,
we've
we've!
If
we
found
that
number
three
and
the
businesses
that
were
run
out
of
that
facility
or
or
residents
were
noteworthy,
we've
asked
for
a
plaque
or
something
to
identify
those.
If
we
think
they're
that
significant.
G
H
Only
thing
I
find
that
really
piques.
My
interest
is
the
white
diamonds,
the
the
bus
line,
the
touring
limousines
here
and
from
what
I
could
tell
from
the
Sanborn
map
they
were
operated
out
of
the
extensive
garage
behind
the
main
house.
H
That's
probably
the
earliest
rendition
of
of
touring
buses
in
the
city.
That
I've
been
aware
of
still
like
to
see
some
interior
pictures,
I
I
honored
for
the
record
I,
don't
think
it's
right
to
be
knocking
structures
down
with
no
exterior
visible
signs
of
deterioration
unless
there's
some
outstanding
consequences
inside
to
yeah,
like
Sean,
had
mentioned,
though
our
our
purview
is
historical
significance,
not
the
condition
of
the
building,
although
that
always
gives
us
a
little
pause.
H
It
potentially
could
be
a
unique
property,
but
if
we
had
20
other
businesses
operating
the
same
fashion,
then
it
becomes
commonplace
well
and
also
too
I
mean,
as
you
mentioned,
if
it
was
run
out
of
the
garage
in
the
back,
that's
actually
the
historic
portion
of
it,
not
the
house,
and
then
would
you
save
the
house
to
commemorate
what
would
you
do
with
it
with
the
business
and
in
the
past
we've
we've
identified
it
and
put
up
some
type
of
historical
monument
plaque
or
something
if
we
feel
that
that
is
a
historical
event
or
business
over
there,
which
which
could
be
because
you're,
independent.
H
So,
if
you,
if
you,
regardless
of
the
future
information,
if
that's
where
the
board
is
heading,
we
can
have
that
kind
of
discussion
about
some
type
of.
H
I
think
the
city
said
they
would
they
don't
have
no,
no
additional
uses
a
side
yard
program
that
they're
contemplating
to
this
Sean
of
the
garage
is
even
standing.
We
can't
seem
to
find
any
picture
of
them.
H
C
C
So
so,
if
the
commission,
you
know,
if
you're
feeling,
which
I
my
I
would
agree
as
staff
right
that
the
likely
the
most
significant
Association
that
this
property
has
is
related
to
the
transportation
industry
in
the
early
20th
century.
C
H
C
Could
you
hear
me?
No
okay,
so
the
that's?
That's!
That's
the
question
really.
That's
before
the
commission
is
right,
what
level
of
Integrity
does
this
property
possess
if
the
primary
association
with
the
transportation
industry
in
the
early
20th
century
is
no
longer
accident
right
and
I
didn't
find
you
know
it
while
it's
likely
that
the
house
was
utilized
in
some
capacity,
whether
it
be
as
an
office,
whether
or
not
people
may
have
stayed
there
or
not
it's
it's
not
initially
clear
from
the
record.
C
I
could
always
go
back
and
try
to
uncover
more
I.
You
know,
I
think
the
the
thing
that
probably
gave
this
property
more
significance
is,
which
is
the
garage,
is
no
longer
present
correct
and
and
can
would
someone
right?
Would
someone
understand
the
significance
of
the
property
without
the
garage
being
Extant.
H
H
Any
objections:
okay
I,
make
the
most
nuclear
caught
as
lead
Agency
on
this
application
seconded
by
Mike.
All
in
favor
aye
aye
make
a
motion
to
clear
this
as
an
unlisted
action.
Hi.
I
So
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulation?
No,
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land.
No
well.
The
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community.
No
well.
The
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
caused
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area,
no
with
a
post-action
result
and
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway.
I
No,
the
proposed
action
caused
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonable
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities.
Now,
with
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public-private
Water
Supplies
public
private
treatment
utilities,
wastewater
treatment
utilities,
no,
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources.
I
Now
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
Natural
Resources
example:
Wetlands
water
bodies,
groundwater
air
quality,
floor
and
fauna,
no
for
the
post-action
result
and
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems.
No,
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
for
human
health.
No,
therefore,
I
declare
a
negative
declaration.
H
Okay,
roll
call
around
John,
hi
Nick
hi
Mike
can
yes
right.
Motion
pass
John
criteria.
I
should
have
this
memorized
criteria
for
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
The
commission's
determination
of
historic
significance
shall
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
United
States
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
or
historic
preservation.
H
If
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structure
or
Memorial
representative
of
its
error,
either
past
or
present,
or
if
the
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
a
past
architectural
style
or
combination
of
styles
or
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
to
the
city
region,
state
or
Nation,
finding
none
I
make
a
motion
for
no
historical
significance
to
tear
it
down.
Second,
please
a.
I
E
C
Okay,
so
for
the
21
print
street
again,
the
applicant
is
the
city
of
Binghamton.
This
going
right
into
the
description
of
the
criteria
of
significance.
C
Staff
didn't
find
that
it
met
any
of
the
criteria
again.
This
is
this
is
on
the
the
north
side
of
of
Binghamton.
It's
a
Queen,
Anne
style
building
with
some
colonial
revival.
Elements
beyond
that
didn't
appear
to
mean
any
of
the
criteria.
H
Any
comments
from
the
boards
besides
me
mispronouncing
it
Pearl
Street.
E
H
Favor
aye
make
motion
to
declare.
This
is
unlisted
action.
G
J
J
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
or
map
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public-private
water
supply
public-private
wastewater
treatment
facility?
J
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
natural
resource
example?
Wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
No
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health.
No,
therefore,
I
make
a
motion
to
declare
a
negative
declaration.
H
Okay,
thank
you.
We'll
call
Dan
John
hi
Mick
aye,
Mike
Ken,
yes,
John
criteria
for
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
The
commissioner's
determination
of
historic
significance
should
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
United
States
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
for
historic
preservation.
H
If
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structure
of
Memorial
representative,
it's
Error
either
past
or
present,
or
if
the
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
a
past
architectural
style
or
combinations
of
styles,
or
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
to
the
city
region,
state
or
Nation,
finding
none
I
make
a
motion
of
no
historical
significance,
knock
it
down.
Okay!
Second,
please
all
right!
Second,
nick
all
in
favor.
H
C
Okay,
so
again,
applicated
city
of
Binghamton,
for
a
determination
of
historical
significance
for
the
property
located
at
63
Walnut
Street
going
through
this
I'll,
keep
it
brief
again
going
through
the
criteria
for
a
positive
statement
of
significance.
The
building
did
not
appear
to
be
in
possession
of
of
any
of
the
three.
H
Okay,
how
much
from
a
board
this
one's
a
little
closer
to
home
and
I
know
that
we've
been
having
trouble
with
squatters
in
here
and
I?
Think
some
some
drug
addicts
living
in
the
building
I
think
it'd
be
appropriate
to
eradicated.
Okay,
make
a
motion
to
clear
Claude
as
lead
agency,
supplication
seconded
by
John,
all
in
favor
aye.
Making
a
motion
to
clear
the
action
is
unlisted.
H
I
The
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations
no
well.
The
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
of
or
intensity
of
use
of
the
land.
No,
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community.
No,
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
caused
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area.
No,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway.
I
No,
the
proposed
action
caused
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities.
No,
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public
private
Water,
Supplies
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities,
no
for
the
proposed
action,
impaired
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historical,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources.
You
know
proposed
action
result
in
adverse
change
to
Natural
Resources.
No,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems.
No,
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health.
I
No,
therefore,
I
declare
negative
declaration.
H
A
roll
call
Mary
Ellen,
John,
hi,
Nick,
hi,
Mike
hi
Ken.
Yes,
welcome
to
pass
John
criteria
for
the
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
The
commission's
determination
of
historic
significance
should
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
United
States
Secretary,
the
interior
standards
for
historic
preservation.
H
If
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structure
of
Memorial
representative
of
its
Adder,
either
past
or
present,
what
if
this
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
a
past
architectural
style
or
combinations
of
stylists?
But
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
that
the
city
region
or
state
or
Nation,
finding
none
I
find
no
historical
significance
in
Mark
that
it
should
be
torn
down.
I
G
G
C
So
in
this
case
very
simple,
probably
on
the
older
side
of
the
buildings
that
were
being
reviewed
today
likely
it
was
probably
a
small
little
like
Greek
Revival,
a
farmhouse
did
find
reference
to
it
being
a
Farm
multiple
times
in
newspaper
records
and
such
but
beyond
that
didn't
find
that
it
met
any
of
the
criteria.
H
Second,
by
Mike,
all
in
favor
aye
make
a
motion
to
clear
the
application
as
unlisted
second
by
Dan
yeah,
all
in
favor.
G
C
J
Result
in
the
adverse
change
to
Natural
Resources
wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna.
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
No,
therefore,
I
make
a
motion
to
declare
a
negative
declaration.
H
If
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structural
Memorial
representative,
it's
Error
either
past
or
present,
or
if
the
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
a
past
architectural
style
or
combination
of
styles,
or
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
to
the
city
region,
state
or
Nation
having
to
find
out
and
I
make
a
motion
of
no
historical
significance,
tear
it
down.
Second,
please
Mike,
all
in
favor,
aye,
537,
State,
Street,.
C
Okay,
just
for
the
sake
of
the
record
on
that
last,
one
was
no
small
impact
on
the
secret
criteria
for
each
of
them,
yes
got
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
537
State,
Street,
again
moving
right
into
the
criteria
of
significance
for
this
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition
review.
The
applicants,
the
city
of
Binghamton
and
I
did
not
find
that
this
met
any
of
the
criteria
for
a
positive
determination
of
historical
significance.
It's
on
the
city's
New
York
side.
H
I
I
Aye
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations?
Now
the
proposed
action
result
and
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land?
No
well.
The
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community.
No
for
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
caused
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area.
No,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
effective
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway
no
well.
I
The
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities.
No,
the
post-action
impact
existing
public-private
Water
Supplies,
public-private
wastewater
treatment
utilities
no
from
the
proposed
action,
impaired
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources.
No,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
Natural
Resources
Wetlands
water
bodies,
groundwater
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna.
No,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems.
I
G
H
You
can't
hear
the
comments
from
the
peanut
gallery
over
here
criteria
for
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
The
commission's
determination
of
historic
significance
shall
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
United
States
Secretary
of
the
Interior
standards
for
historic
preservation.
H
If
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structure
or
Memorial
representative
of
its
error,
either
past
or
present,
or
if
the
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
a
past
architectural
style
or
combination
of
styles,
or
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
to
the
city
region
or
state
or
Nation
having
fine,
none
I
make
a
determination
of
no
historical
significance
to
knock
it
down
and
for
the
record.
I
wouldn't
sit
anywhere
else.
H
Both
comments,
ocean
passed,
Sean,
any
other
business
Sean.
We
tabled
Ross
Park
because
nobody
was
here.
What
are
we
supposed
to
do
with
this
anything?
Oh.
C
Yeah,
so
so
there
is
somebody
here
right,
it's
it's
staff,
and
so
in
this
case
we,
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
the
environmental
review
process.
For
this
application,
and
really
the
only
expectation
of
the
commission
today
is
to
basically
determine
lead
agency,
which
in
this
case,
this
staff
is
requesting
that
it
be
the
commission
on
architecture
and
Urban
Design,
and
that
you
determine
that
the
action
is
unlisted.
We
didn't
find
that
it
met
the
the
threshold
for
type
one
and
it
didn't
meet
the
type
2
criteria
either.
C
H
Okay,
so
I
decl
make
motion
to
clear
cod
as
lead
agency
with
the
application
for
Ross
Park
recreational
trails
seconded
by
John.
All
in
favor
aye
make
a
motion
to
clear
the
action
as
unlisted
I
can
advice,
oh
all
in
favor
aye,
and
make
a
motion
to
have
our
regularly
scheduled
December
meeting
VA
public
hearing
for
this
application.
E
H
C
It
was
thank
you
that
works
and
one
other
point
of
clarification
just
because
it
was
a
little
challenging
to
hear
at
the
beginning
who
made
the
motion
on
the
October
minutes
and
who
was
the
second.